Work session on the $22.8 million five-year Capital Improvement Program; council asked for a Penny for Pasco reconciliation and updated Peace Hall designs before round two.
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Review of the FY 2026/2027 - FY 2030-2031 Proposed Capital Improvement Program
discussedStaff presented the proposed FY 2026/2027 – FY 2030/2031 Capital Improvement Program covering the General Fund, Stormwater Utility Fund, Capital Improvement Fund, Water & Sewer Construction Fund, Redevelopment Fund, and Street Improvement Fund, totaling roughly $22.769 million (a reduction from the prior year's $25.5 million). Council reviewed individual projects including pool resurfacing, stormwater flood control projects, James E. Gray Preserve improvements, Peace Hall renovations, skate park, dog park, tennis/pickleball courts, and City Hall hardening, asking questions about funding sources, Penny for Pasco balances, and rollover projects. No formal action was taken; staff was directed to provide a Penny for Pasco reconciliation and additional design/visioning information before the second review.
- direction:Council directed staff to provide a Penny for Pasco reconciliation and updated Peace Hall design information before the second CIP review. (none)
- direction:Councilmember requested visioning/architectural planning for the James E. Gray Preserve area before engineering design. (none)
Astor Drive at intersections of Berkeley Road, Carlton Road, Dartmouth Road and Palmetto RoadCarlton Road, Dartmouth Road, Berkeley AvenueCongress Street (south end to the river)Francis Avenue ParkLeisure Lane and Van Doren AvenueRio Drive at Wyoming and LafayetteCrystalMannsMuellerPeters2013 Stormwater Master Drainage Plan (10-year update)2022 Outdoor Maintenance Plan2024 Carlton Road/Dartmouth Road/Berkeley Avenue Resiliency ImprovementsCapital Improvement Fund 301City Hall Campus Building ResiliencyCity Hall Facility Hardening and RenovationCoast to Coast TrailElevated Storage Pump Replacement Project (vetoed)FY 2026/2027 – FY 2030/2031 Capital Improvement ProgramFrancis Avenue Park (dog park)General Fund 001James E. Gray Preserve Improvements Phase 1James E. Gray Preserve Restrooms RehabilitationPeace Hall RenovationsPenny for PascoPool Resurfacing Project (Dive Pool and Slide Pool)Public Works Operations Center Air Handler Unit #1 ReplacementRailroad Square Phase 1Recreation Center Outdoor Tennis and Pickleball Court ReconstructionRecreation Center Skate Park ProjectRedevelopment FundStormwater Resiliency Project (Rio Drive)Stormwater Utility Fund 002Street Improvement FundTown and Country Villas Flood Abatement ProjectWater and Sewer Construction Fund▶ Jump to 0:11 in the videoShow transcriptHide transcript
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Purpose of this evening's work session is to review the proposed fiscal year 2627. Fiscal year 2030 2031. Proposed capital improvement project budget. And with that being said, as a reminder to all of you, the funds that are included in that budget are the general fund, the stormwater utility fund, the capital improvement fund, the water and sewer construction fund, the redevelopment fund, and the street improvement fund. The funding levels for the various funds. As a change from the previous years are in the following amounts. The change in the general fund from 2526 is a change. It is actually a reduction in the amount of 101,000 310,000. The current budget that we are proposing for 2627 is in the amount of $350,000. The stormwater utility fund. The total expenditures are in the amount of $2,385,000, which is a change from the previous year. It too, is a reduction in the amount of $1,405,000. The capital improvement project is also reduced from the prior year. The. We are proposing a budget in the amount of $4,884,000, which is a reduction in the amount of $1,215,000. The water and sewer and reclaimed utility project is a proposed budget in the amount of $3,555,000, a reduction from the prior year, and the amount of $1,426,000. The redevelopment fund is in the amount of $8,080,000, which is an increase in the amount of $2,090,000. The street improvement fund is proposed to be in the amount of $3,515,000, which is a reduction in the amount of $720,000, which aggregates to a change in prior year funds a total for 25, 26 and expenditures was 29,000 $355,000 and 2627. Our proposed budget is in the amount of 25,000,500 no no. 26 is 25. I'm sorry. Sorry. Prior year is 25. 25 546,310 and 2627. The proposed budget is 22 million. Thank you crystal. $769,000. And with that, we would like to [00:05:02] Present to you the proposed projects. Please be mindful of the fact that in addition to those funds, the city does seek grant opportunities to supplement those funding sources from various sources. Federal and state grants, as well as legislative appropriations. As you're aware of the fact, we did receive one this past year to support the rio drive project, and federal and state grants are ongoing and. We do have penny for Pasco funds as well that we use as a funding source. As we go through the budget, you'll see that we do note funding sources attached to the various proposed projects. And as we go through, we'll introduce the project and you can ask us any questions about the project or the proposed funding sources. And with that, we're going to start with, I believe, the general fund and Mr. Colin, I can mueller is prepared to start with that funding source. Thank you, miss manns. As you'll see, starting out on the general fund 001, we start out with the spreadsheet there. Take a minute to please review that. There's one item there in particular that we'll be talking about this evening. If there are no questions on that, we'll move on to the narratives. On page eight. Thanks. Let's have different ones, really. So moving on, the project highlighted within the general fund for this year is the pool resurfacing project. This is for the dive pool and slide pool at the recreation and aquatic center. Industry standards state that the pools need to be resurfaced every 8 to 12 years. Typically the dive pool in the slide pool. Both are currently at 16 years old and in need of resurfacing. The total project cost for this project is $350,000. Moving forward, we'll move on to the stormwater utility fund. This is utility fund 002. You'll see the spreadsheet provided. If there are no questions on that, we'll move on to the narratives on the pool resurfacing. I've got last year's capital improvement plan. So when you go over these projects, I'm just going to be curious which ones of them are rollovers. So last year you did have the pool resurfacing split between two years. So are we done a portion and this is the rest of it. We went out to bid this year and the bids we received we found to be insufficient. We received one bid, it was insufficient and we worked with that contractor before and have decided to reject that bid that came to council, I believe a month or two ago we will be going out to bid. We're looking at the language on those documents now to try and open it up to a wider group of potential bidders. So the penny for Pasco was going to be used last year, hasn't been used for this project. You're saying 350 for next for the budget and putting that in front of us. And the total price was around 575,000 for plunge dive lap pool. And now we now also have the slide right, which is not which was not anticipated last year or just didn't get written into it. And I know this is recreation. So my apologies. I know this might not be an answer you have, but it's a question. No, it's okay. So last year when we went out or this recent year when we went out to bid, we went out to bid for the slide and the dive. The lap pool being a larger pool, we thought we would break that off on its own because that's going to require more funding than probably one of the other ones by themselves isolated. So in order to allocate those resources more effectively, we split those up that way. Hopefully that makes sense. Yeah, I think it just didn't say slide on this one. So my real question is, is 350,000 going to be significant sufficient. Their bids were rejected. They were too high. We think we're going to get them. But maybe the number is low is what I'm worried about. We ran our estimate based on the cost of some resurfacing projects that took place at [00:10:04] Some local facilities. And that's kind of what we're basing it on at this time. And then finally, since this happens in the winter, this would be something you'd be ready to go out and try to get this lined up. So after the swim time is over, you do it during the time of year. Because we had that little problem a few years back. Thank you. Moving on to the stormwater utility fund 002. If everybody has a minute to review that spreadsheet, if there are no questions on that, we'll move on to the narratives. Moving to the first project that you'll find. It's the miscellaneous flood control water quality project. This is used to support the construction of new water or new stormwater systems, or rehabilitating some of our existing stormwater systems to correct any historical flood prone areas. And this is as an as needed basis. So typically throughout the years, we find reports coming in areas, we'll get identified, and then we'll allocate the resources effectively to try and make any sort of changes to the stormwater in that area to correct any of the issues. And the total project costs there that's been allocated is $200,000. Next project is the 2024 Carlton Road, Dartmouth Road, Berkeley Avenue. Resiliency improvements this area was identified in the city's 2013 stormwater master drainage plan, a ten year update due to continual street flooding and repetitive flooding of the homes during storm events. This proposed stormwater improvement project includes inlet installations along astor drive at the intersections of berkeley road, carlton road, dartmouth road and palmetto road. It also includes the installation of approximately 1500 linear feet of 36 inch stormwater pipe with an additional outfall, the proposed outfall, or the proposed stormwater improvement will also include a cds unit. That's our continuous deflective separation unit that'll be installed just west of the outfall on palmetto road, and that increases our screening and separation of debris, sediment and hydrocarbons for our stormwater runoff. And the total project cost is estimated at 1,630,000. And those have received legislative appropriated funds. Moving on to the town and country villas flood abatement project. The proposed stormwater improvement project includes the installation of culverts and improvements to approximately 3600 linear feet of swales along Leisure Lane and Van Doren Avenue, and this is in the recently annexed town and country villas area. Project benefit is approximately 185 parcels, with increased stormwater resiliency in what we all know is a historically flood prone area for the 2627 years, there is a total project cost of 370,000, with additional funding allocated in future years. Some of that money money from the county. It is. On to the stormwater resiliency project. This area was identified again in the city's 2013 stormwater drainage plan. Ten year update. The proposed project includes improvements of the following elements along rio drive, and that would be inlet installations at the intersections of wyoming and lafayette. It also includes installation of approximately 1217 linear feet of 15 inch, 18 inch, 24 inch, and 30 inch stormwater pipe, as well as a backflow preventer. That's kind of a duckbill backflow that gets installed at the outlet to prevent any flow back up into the stormwater system. And finally, we're proposing putting in a baffle box, as it is a reduced size element that still gives us a level of stormwater pretreatment before we kick out to the outfall. And the total project cost for next year is in the engineering of 185,000, with an additional 2 million set for the out years. This the project that we got funded. It is. So that first one you said was receiving legislative funding. That one was vetoed. We received the legislative funding for that one the previous year. Last [00:15:01] Year. Oh you haven't. Yep. So we have funding for both of those projects. I'm not sure which one. But we did not get one or the other. So I guess you'll let us know when that comes up. We we got part of what we asked for, but the governor vetoed. The governor vetoed the. The elevated, elevated storage, elevated storage pump replacement project. That's. And that'll close out our stormwater utility fund. Moving on to the capital improvement fund, this is fund 301. And again, the spreadsheets are provided here for you if you need to take a look at those. If you have any questions we're here to answer those. So we'll start with the james gray preserve improvements phase one. And this is on congress street. This includes the parking entrance, restroom trails and landscaping. This project involves the construction of the shell entrance road and the establishment of a parking lot and restroom facility. Over on that side. The project limits are from the end of congress street, south end to the river. In addition, the project will include construction of a multi-use trail, pedestrian crossover bridge connecting the two ends, and the following amenities are also planned for the improvement. This would be bike racks, landscape, some hardscape elements and some site lighting on site. For the fiscal year 2627, we have 144 140,000 set aside in total project costs, with a 3 million out laid out in future years. Moving on to the existing james e gray preserve restrooms. This project involves the rehabilitation of the existing restrooms, which were constructed constructed in 2008 as a part of the james e gray preserve expansion project. The project includes facade improvements to the building structure and will involve floor and wall rehabilitations as well. Additionally, the fixtures and hardware hardware will be replaced and ada upgrades will be implemented. And for the fiscal year 2627, the total project cost is 410,000. Mr. Mayor, if I may, just wanted to weigh in on this to say this is exciting and money's out there and it's a year out, and this is where I'm going to jump in and say, I'm not going to bring him up today. But there are ideas what we how we make that entirety work. From the dog park to the 80 acres to the extra land we had that doesn't have maybe restrictions. So I would request that we get some visioning and some sort of, let me say, the architectural angle on what we're doing before we go to the engineers and have them design this, because I think there may be some opportunities on the land we own to do a little more. That could even include more of a sort of. Let's say. Applications such as boy scouts or kids or sleepovers or campsites or, or something that could affect that. When it does finally happen, the coast to coast trail that leads to our whole eco tourism argument. And some of that could be happening sooner than later if we could, because this is our chance to envision those kind of things and ask for the money for it. Once again, I was told, whatever we do that creates employment of the low to moderate income folks, we can add $50,000 for every one of those people we employ. So if any of you remember the old obama days where there was a, the the I think it was whether it was the covid or before covid, the there was a job program where businesses and kids, including. And I did it in that world. We hired people to do maintenance and clean up work, and they paid the entire bill. If we agreed that we could take them on so effectively, we could have a few years worth of folks employed in some way on these projects to help them come to fruition. And then depending on the ownership of the project, whether it was a city or the CRA, we could actually then carry on those operational costs until it's until it's until its life is over. And then when that money comes back into the city, we have a plan. So I would like to have that [00:20:04] Discussion with my colleagues. And have you all perhaps consider moving a little more quickly to pencil in what it might look like, so we can get excitement in the community and kind of get feedback and see what might be feasible, you know, wherever it might be. So that's my overall talk. I'll not bring any more up. But when we talk to these capital projects, that's what I'm excited about learning about. That's what the community could be excited and whether or not we bring the same architect back who's helping us to design a sort of, you know, thematic approach to our development. There's money out there for planning, as I mentioned before, and I would love to take advantage of getting others excited about us using money that they complain and want us to get back to them, particularly the county with the CRA dollars. Thank you. Thank you, thank you. Next project you'll find is the peace hall renovations project. As you're all aware, this project involves the restoration and rehabilitation of this historically significant building. Many of the planned improvements include the roof replacement, the facade repair, electrical upgrades, and some ada amendments. Amend amendments are predicated as a result of maintenance need or code requirement. Others, such as floor replacement, lighting upgrades and restroom renovations and landscape improvements, are intended to improve the user experience. This will help create more of a an engaged experience for our community as well. The total project cost for fiscal year 2627 is 650,000, with additional six, 15, or 615,000 in the future years. As you know, this project is currently in design. Next project is the recreation center skate park project. This project includes the renovation of the existing skate park located at. Located at the recreation and aquatic center. Project elements for this include surface improvement, installation of a new state of the art skateboard equipment, new perimeter fencing, lighting upgrades, benches, a drinking fountain, and some pretty significant landscape elements. The total project cost for fiscal year 2627 is 450,000. That's in design stage, right? Construction. What's that? Yes, we are working with a skateboard group to prepare a skateboard design. The good news is that the group that we are working with are skateboarders, and they're professional skateboarders, and they know their business. The difficulty is they are experts at that and not necessarily at the business end. Generating typical documents that come along with design. So we've encouraged them to give us some things that would necessarily associate with the design, like a budget. And they've given us some preliminary information, which we've asked to be supplemented so that when we make a presentation to you, it's a complete presentation and it's accurate information. And they're working on that. And we're hopeful that within the next few weeks, we'll be able to present that to you and get a reaction, get a reaction from the community, and hopefully endorse a concept that we can take to specifications and go to competitive bid on if it's acceptable to all parties, and that is our current plan. And when you meet the group, you too will see their perfectly cast for what they're doing for us. Thank you. I have one question. Just backing up a little bit on the piece hall. So we have $1.2 million set aside for piece hall. We are soliciting grants to assist us in the implementation of the project, but we are expecting that that is what our cost will be to implement the project. What are we doing to it? Oh, [00:25:10] Outside's got to be redone. Yeah. Well, new roof air conditioning. Yeah, they're going to do another whole entrance. That's more more safety. We'll bring you. We had a picture. I mean, I love pizza, don't get me wrong, but I'm looking at like $1.2 million, you know, building a new building present to you. Yeah. Some exterior design and interior. I thought we had given you something, but we can do that again. Okay. As a reminder to you and bring you up to date on where we are on plan design for that project as well. It might have been the meeting you missed. It may have been there might not have been a number attached to it. There wasn't. There wasn't a number. Yeah, it was just a number. I'm like, wait a minute. Well, they're adding a couple bathrooms, but still, I think it is a little much. Yeah. All right. Well, we'll wait and see what we're doing. Leftovers. All right. Moving on. The Francis Avenue Park project. This project includes the design and construction of a dog park there at Francis Avenue Park. This project will create a dedicated, safe and accessible off leash recreation area for pets, including separate spaces for large dogs and small dogs, perimeter fencing, landscaping, seating, waste stations, drinking fountains and other amenities. This project expands those recreational opportunities and enhances park amenities, and the project cost. Summary our total project cost for 2627 is $80,000. Moving forward to the recreation center, outdoor tennis and pickleball, pickleball court reconstruction project. This project involves the completion of renovation of the city's outdoor tennis and pickleball courts. The last time these courts were resurfaced was in 2021. However, this project was just a simple resurfacing. It didn't address any of the underlying issues with those courts, and this project is set forth to address some of those underlying deficiencies throughout the full court reconstruction, and includes replacement of deteriorating fencing and windscreens to improve the safety and functionality. This project is consistent with the city's 2022 outdoor maintenance plan, and the total project cost is $362,000, and that is for the fiscal year 2627. I believe that we have, I remember councilman peters, the money the tennis court was falling apart. They were going to fix it up. We had a substantial budget for that to shore it up so that it wouldn't erode. I guess we had a lot of erosion around the edges because it was elevated. So when you say the last time we spent money was in 2021, and it was just a little fix up, I would like to see the price that we invested in it, because it was several hundred thousand dollars, I believe, at the time. We'll go back and look at the project specifications as well as the budget. So hot, but we've had recent occasion to dig in the area and have taken note of a lot of underlying base deterioration. So I don't know if there's a warranty, but I'm thinking if you say it was a 21 project, it's like the street project. It probably wasn't done until 22 or 23 or I don't know when it was actually accomplished, but we were theoretically fixing the problem back then. Yeah. The project itself was completed in 2021. Isn't that long? Yes, sir. Okay. Time flies here. It wasn't a government project. All right, well, it's a surprise. The next project is the city hall facility hardening and renovation project. This project includes the removal of the existing city hall exterior doors, replacing those with impact resistant doors, and the installation of a full service standby generator. And the engineer. For that, we need an engineer for that. The electrical is pretty substantial. And so that's what we're we're tying them in for. Yeah. And that is for the fiscal year 2627. Total project cost of 100,000, with future years laid out at 900,000. You moved off for recreation. We can move right back. Yeah, we [00:30:02] Can go back to that. So just to point, you know, and just from my colleagues last year, we had a $1.98 million use. A lot of it was paid for Pasco. In fact, the whole doggone thing pretty much. And those are the same projects that are on this year. So these projects 600 000 for peace hall innovations, 5000 peace hall 400 000 for gray preserve upgrade restrooms. These are the same numbers that were on last year. So what we don't know is how much of the penny for Pasco money we used. I think we used a lot of it for railroad square, if I'm not mistaken. So so that may be why we're resetting the the the table to use this money. But what I'm hopeful before the budget process is over is that we have an idea of how much money are in those funds and how much we're expected to have in those funds at the end of the year, because we can look at all these things and like them. But if I don't know, you know, if this money wasn't spent, the the railroad square phase one, which we had envisioned cost us a lot more. I know it did. So I'm not complaining because that's what happens. But yeah, understanding where we're at is just a side note. And right. And projects that are listed again the next year cost me to have to make comment about it. Both peace hall and the great preserve project are projects that require some grant funding because they're not fully funded, as we have presented them to you in the budget. The great preserve in particular, requires a lot of grant funding. Even the grants we note to you as funding sources have caps to them that don't even come near to what the project budget is. So unfortunately, we're looking for grants that we haven't identified yet that will give us more than the $400,000 which the state provides through their funding source for assistance. Because it's it's a $3 million project. Which one is 3 million for the james gray preserve improvements. Right. And that's not even programed for this year. So I'm not talking about right this year. I'm talking about how much money we have and whether or not we can, what we can actually do. Crystal and I are working on the penny for Pasco reconciliation now, so that we can present it to you before your second review of the cap project. Thank you. I'm glad you raised the point. Thank you. Okay. Next project is the city hall campus building resiliency. And this is the and vapor barrier around the city hall for 2627 is 510,000. Next project is the public works operations center. Air handler unit number one replacement. This project includes the replacement of the public works operations center. Hvac handler unit number one. This unit serves the administrative offices and has been in service since the construction of the operations center in 2009. Moving on to the 2024 grand boulevard bridge replacement. This project is a collaborative project between the city of new port richey in Pasco county, and this includes the replacement of the existing grand boulevard bridge that was constructed in 1957. Subsequent to the design phase completion, the existing bridge will be removed and the new bridge will be constructed to the same elevation as the main street bridge. In addition, the top side of the bridge will be constructed to meet our current design standards for the proposed multi use path to be constructed along grand boulevard, and tying all of those elements from the north. The north side of the bridge to the south side of the bridge together. Once those elements are completed, so would be the removal of the temporary relocation of the existing 12 inch ductile iron force main and the existing 16 inch cast iron water main pipe. During [00:35:03] The demolition of and the construction of the new structure subsequent to the bridge reconstruction, the existing water main will be replaced with ductile iron pipe and reattached to the bridge, and the total project cost for fiscal year 2627 is $1,767,000, with 100 in coordination with grand boulevard. Between. Between golf and. It will be in coordination with it. Yes, because I don't want to see it set up, shut down for one, and then shut down for the other. We have to shut it all down, get it taken care of. Is that possible? It is possible. We're working on it. Yes. I'm just. It's a budget thing too. That's why it's a budget thing too. That's why I'm asking. People are going to go down medicine, go down 19. So I don't want to extend the project because we do one and then do the other. Do them both at the same time. Does that make sense? It makes sense. Okay, well, you have a question. Look in your face, I guess maybe grand boulevard project is a big project and I'm not certain what span of grand boulevard you're referring to. Main street to, you know, the bridge. I'm not certain we'll have all of that funding in place at one time, but I'll talk to and make sure that I understand what you mean. I mean, I just think we should we're going to be shutting down the bridge. We might as well shut down grand at the same time, right? I do know what you mean. Is it possible to do from golf to the bridge during the bridge project, at least I assume that portion of that project was intended and is included within this project. Okay. And then we're going to incremental down as grand as we can. It's going to have to be shut down when we do that. Yes. The louisiana give it back. I mean, you could go down. We closed down grand down to it. I'm leaning tower. Yeah. I mean it was a little tighter there but. The bridge staying out is out. It's. Yeah. No he's talking about the rest of the way up. Yeah. Well you still go madison to louisiana, right? I mean, and come back to grand and you can get back to gray's office or the businesses or the homes that people are living in. I'm sure we'll have a path for them. I have to say this, and I know I'm going to be a a broken record here. But in 25, 26, we had 1.387 million for the grand boulevard replacement. The project got pushed back. It was identified as penny for Pasco water and sewer. To your point, Mr. Mayor, if we have water and sewer funds and we know what we're going to need to do, good lord, those big. And that's a good question. That big pipe running across there, if the bridge is raised, that's got to be raised too, right? Correct. So I'm going to make a suggestion that we've used CRA dollars in the past to do capital improvements and streetscaping. If there is a challenge to the CRA, which there have been every year, they always have an out clause for if there's any debt. If we're looking at spending future penny for Pasco money for this, and we have the ability to do more, we should be thinking about having the CRA assist with that and know that we can have supplemental revenue going back into it if we need to from future. Penny for Pasco, but I would like to see us if we're committing to this. Good lord, the bridge is committed. We're all committed to that road all the way. We're saying we want to do it, and there's I'm going to say it again, $10 million worth of planning money, waiting for us to pay for us to work with the county to plan this. They've they've asked us to help plan the, the road, the bike track trail going to holiday on grand boulevard. And last week they offered to do everything they could. So unless we wanted to go alone, I say let's get the planning money and start getting it ready for strategy construction and come back to us and say, if we need the money, let's get the money and secure that CRA revenue. Because once they cut it off, the only thing they leave left is the debt payment. And that's the only way we're going to get the county money back is if we have an obligation. So to me, I'm ready to obligate to do this project. Everybody's you know, a lot of projects are [00:40:04] Getting delayed right now because people are afraid. I say we shouldn't be afraid and we should try to talk about ways we could we could finance it, which means what's our debt load left? The CRA has been paying a good bit out. What's our obligations? How much can we do to make some major capital projects, including whatever else we can do for this whole walkability argument? That's what's going to make our city really take off, you know? And anyway, delay on the bridge. I mean, I've been here for 4 or 5 years. It's been laying the bridge to us or the county. It's been the county. And we have indicated tiff as a funding source for the grand boulevard bridge replacement. It's their delay. What is their excuse? I'm not certain. I know they've changed engineers over the course of the project, but I'm not certain of a specific delay. I know they've debated for some time what construction method they were going to use to blast us. Some of the rock, or whether, and they've made a decision on that. I know that was debated for quite some time, and that's the only issue that they've made me aware of during the course of time. But I know they're well on their way now, from what I understand. And the last or the most recent information I have from them is that they are still planning a 2627 construction season, although I don't have anything more specific. Have you heard anything more recent than that, colin? No, ma'am. Okay. Mr. Mayor, I agree with you on the idea. When that bridge is out that let's get some of this stuff underway. I mean, that's the time to be working. And that can include the the Gulf high building too. I mean, because that whole site is going to be a construction site and whatever we intend to do. I think we have access to money if we can figure out a good argument. And with y'all's agreement, I think we could do it. Don't eat your paycheck. No, it's not going to be my paycheck, but it will be, you know, there's $35 million out there, and we should be getting about at least a third of it towards our projects in town because we were affected and we've got the low to moderate income and we can create something really special, but they're going to fritter it away. If we don't come up with something inspirational. All right, so moving on to the next project, also in line with grand boulevard 2025 grand boulevard multi use path project. This is phase two and this includes the design and construction phases for the development of the multi-use path along grand boulevard. From the bridge all the way to delaware avenue north to the downtown area, as well as east along delaware avenue, where it connects to the city's existing multi-use path along madison street. The project elements, as you know, include milling, paving of grand boulevard, the reduction of the existing 12 foot travel lanes to ten foot travel lanes, stormwater drainage improvements, seating areas, landscape and hardscape areas, as well as some decorative lighting and the total project cost for the upcoming fiscal year 2627 is $275,000. As it sits correct, and that will conclude the 301. Moving on to the water and sewer construction fund. This is fund 405, and you'll see the outlay along the spreadsheets there before you. You can review those. And if you have any questions, we're here to answer those. But if there are none, I'll move on to the first project. So the potable and reclaimed water systems extension. This is the miscellaneous project. This. These are as needed projects for extensions on the water distribution and the reclaim utility service lines. And this is where there are no existing public utilities. We've done a few of those these in the past and continue to move forward on them. The total project cost outlay is $120,000. Okay. I'm sorry, what number did you say? $120,000. For fiscal year 2627. That's the. Thank you. Moving on to the next project. That is [00:45:14] The potable and reclaimed water systems improvement miscellaneous project. These projects typically involve the replacement of older water mains in areas that are currently undergoing street restoration. They'll be associated with maybe a drainage project where we'll identify something as we're doing construction as being deficient or in need of replacement. And so again, this total project cost outlined for fiscal year 2627 is $120,000. I still have the elevated storage tank project on here. Is that is that the one that got vetoed, and is that coming out of the budget or is that staying in under a different source? I sorry, I apologize that I fat fingered this. And so I had a page stuck to another page. So let me circle back to that and thank you. If you go back a few pages and I apologize for that. The 2027 high service pump, elevated storage tank replacement project, and this project includes the installation of high service pumps at the city's elevated storage tank. The installation of these pumps will allow for proper turnover of water, which is essential in maintaining the potable water quality, and that project is funded or total project cost for fiscal year 2627 is 1,220,000. Would you add the extra 50,000 to paint that sucker when it's done with a new logo? We certainly need to. We were thinking about something that matches councilman murphy's shirt. Yeah. That would be terrible. Pineapple. So I make sure they're facing the right way. Pineapples. Tell us more. Is there an upside down? You're good. And I don't mean to jump ahead, but we're going to have to for the project. It's the smart meter change out project. It'll be right after the potable replacements. This project is an extension of our ami smart meter projects. This phase will include the replacement of the city's three inch and four inch bulk existing census water meters. These meters were retrofitted to meet operational technology during the city's smart meter integration back in 2014, and these meters have met their useful life in accordance with the manufacturer's recommendation and are due for replacement and the total project cost for fiscal year 2627 is $100,000. Now, sonar or whatever you call them. So they're not they're non-mechanical. Correct. These will be the ultrasonic meters. Next project is the 2022 2023 water utility systems improvement project. This project includes the construction of new water transmission mains and distribution mains. This project came to council just this past Tuesday, as you're all aware, and it includes the replacement of 7800 linear feet of 6 to 8 inch diameter water mains valves, fittings, service connections and up to ten hydrant assemblies. And the total project cost for this for fiscal year 2627 is $1,025,000. Next project is our sewer main and manhole rehabilitation project. This is an annual project that involves the televised inspection of a portion of over 100 miles of the city's gravity, sewer mains and manhole structures, and this is to detect any infiltration that we get from groundwater. And it's a systematic repair of pipes that have failed to reduce excessive wear and tear on pumping equipment and sanitary collection system. This phase includes lining of approximately 3091 linear feet of eight inch gravity lines in the areas of the holiday garden estates and south river road, and the total project cost for fiscal year 2627 is $200,000. Next project within the utility fund is the oxidation basin conversion at the wastewater treatment plant. This project includes the conversion of wastewater treatment plants. 1.5 million gallon schreiber continuously sequence basin to the standard oxidation oxidation basin. The schreiber process unit is kind of a dual purpose unit that required a significant amount of maintenance over its service life, and has been in service for over 40 years. The conversion would align it better to our current treatment process and simplify that maintenance for the the remaining service life. This [00:50:04] Project was identified and outlined in a deficiency analysis that was conducted earlier this year, and the total project cost for fiscal year 2627 is $350,000. We'll take you 12 months to design it, or you're just trying to push that money out. We initially wanted to seek out funding for this, given the total cost of the project. What we discovered is that maybe our best bet moving forward would be to get something that's more shovel ready to put it, so to speak. So we're going to go to design on this for this year. And we've already brought that task order to council. And so the thought process there is, once we have it as a shovel ready project, we'll be more palatable once we go out for grant funding. So my answer to that would be just like looking at things that didn't get done. We also can bring things forward as you get them ready. So if you get something shovel ready and you're ready to go out and you find the time is right, you come back to us for a budget amendment and a plan to do it, and we try to do it. So. I just, I, it's great to have this plan, but it's even better if you work as fast as you can and not use it to delay you from doing anything. When you can find opportunities to bring it forward, I think that's maintenance that you could stop happening, the sooner the better, right? Right. You said it's 40 years old, correct? Right. Thank you. So the next project is the 2425 sewer utility system improvements. This project includes the design and construction of new sanitary sewer force mains in areas of the existing system, which are beyond their serviceable life and prone to rupture. Construction of new force mains will allow for the abandonment of the existing mains located in easements and right of way. This project includes the replacement of wastewater pump components, structures and control logics at various lift stations in the city system, and the removal and replacement of the lift station at the south river road and shore street. The removal and replacement of the lift station at maplewood drive in the tanglewood subdivision subdivision, and the installation of a new upsized eight inch force main along rosewood drive, redwood drive and madison madison street north to high street, and for fiscal year 2627, the total project cost is $50,000. Moving on to the sewer system extension miscellaneous project. This project includes extension of the sanitary sewer lines and this is enforced mains in the city's utility service area, where there currently are no public utilities, and the total project cost for this is $120,000 for the fiscal year 2627. The last project here for the. Water and sewer utility fund 405 is the town and country village sewer extension. And again, this is in the annexed area of the town and country villas. And this project includes the installation of 3400ft of new gravity sewer pipe, manholes and a lift station and single family home sewer lateral connection points. This project is set to benefit the 185 parcels, and providing those parcels that don't currently have existing sewer service with city sewer service, and this should serve as an environmental benefit by removing that septic tank system in that flood prone area. The project cost for fiscal year 2627 is 250 000, and that concludes the water and sewer 405 fund. I speak to you again about the stormwater issue. I've asked before, and I believe it with all of my heart. The downtown stormwater system should be a a storm, a utility at a level the next level up. I know we have to go to swfwmd to get approval, but I think we should have a an urban stormwater system that doesn't require property owners to put retention ponds on their property and really look at the stormwater of the entire downtown. And I think. It deserves an opportunity to discuss it. It's too early to say if it would work or not, but we did have an engineer here one time that talked about it, and then he said, and then we could we could charge people [00:55:01] For their stormwater. And it's like it wasn't to charge them. It was for us to be able to follow the advice of our consultants who said, take some of these parking lots and some of these stormwater ponds, and make ourselves urban with walkability and have our stormwater as a as a unified stormwater program. So we're still causing people in our downtown to have to provide their stormwater reports or projects of any size. I think it's another piece of planning that we could get funded. For us, that doesn't cost you any more, but it would be well worthwhile to those who, you know, despite. And Mr. Mayor, I know you said people like our town small and the way it is, but the pipes are old. System is bad, the water is coming in. And even with reo drive, when I look at how much we're spending because of what happens with flooding, it wasn't stormwater that caused the houses to fill with water, it was the river coming up. Unless I'm mistaken, somebody might have got some water, but not $2 million worth of stormwater pipes. We need to look at the resiliency and and colin, I've been schooled on this for nine years, going in all of what I do at the regional planning council. And I know there's money in it. But I think that for the downtown, for us to really make it work and have as much green space, we need to be willing to have those parking garages to get the cars that are going to be flooding on all of our streets, up into the garage or whatever. But. It's been a long time that folks have continued to find that as a hot button and not wanting to talk about it because of some buzzwords that we probably need to avoid. But I really think our downtown development plan should include a massive, a real change in the way we do stormwater. So I'm going to say it again now that you're you're new here. I did get the list from robert four years ago of where all the outfalls are coming in off of river road, where we've got that side coming in off of where all the fireworks were last Saturday over by our boat ramp. And. And what we have in our downtown. I think we should have a master plan for the downtown, not just a city master plan for stormwater. And I think that should go to the next level of stormwater management. We've already got orange lake. We had another pond in mind, but it didn't get really thought through or designed in time. And, and I don't want to give up on that idea if I can bring it to you. So maybe some, maybe in there, just call it a grant and see if we can't find our way to get some help to get some design for, for that, because it will help to offset all these flooded houses. And spending $2 million and waiting two years to do it. We ought to we ought to bite the bullet and try to do something. Like I said, I got two years left, so I'm going to be a pain in the the whole time and try to get some of these ideas. Just these last two years. Well, I've been really blessed before that. So most of the time, once in a while, my my mayor can't be the only one to get grumpy around here. Community didn't have anything to do with water. What didn't? They're called for a small town approach. My belief in this is a small town had nothing to do with stormwater. Well, you tried to quote me. It's not what I was talking about. Well, then you could speak for yourself. I know, and you have. But you said something about grand boulevard, and people don't want to have to change. And they like the small town. They like the small town, but they really like what we're becoming. And so I'm not going to let somebody that's all upset because they're afraid their boat ramp is gone to, to, to tell me how our project is going to be stormwater. That's what I'm saying about stormwater. Yeah. Okay. But when we do a big design, and that's my point, is that we get that out of the way to allow ourselves to be fully activated on the ground with public space. That's their planning books all over the place. And I don't I'm not a planner, but I, I've loved talking with them and listening. Thank you. Go ahead, colin, if you'll allow me, I'll go ahead and present the next section, which is the fun summary for the redevelopment fund. And I invite Mr. Gammon to supplement any words that I offer as necessary in my presentation on [01:00:03] The fund. Thank you colin. And the first project that we are presenting this evening is the 2027 railroad square improvement project, which is phase two, and it is on nebraska avenue from grand boulevard to bank street. And the project, in large part involves a continuation of phase one of the project, and it spans from grand boulevard to bank street and includes the embellishment, as is characterized by the first phase of the project, with a largely embellished pedestrian walkways, hardscape improvements, landscape improvements, shade structures, overhead of the roadway, and more. Golf cart parking and upgrades to include the undergrounding of utilities and such. The proposed project cost summary for the fiscal year 2627 is an appropriation of $150,000 to support the engineering costs associated with the planning and preparation of architectural and engineering plans and specifications to support bid documents and construction documents for the project. With the expected implementation of the project in the next year. If that's acceptable to you. The next project that we have proposed is the grand boulevard streetscape enhancement project, which is a phase one project spanning from montana avenue to nebraska avenue, and the project involves an assessment of all of the streetscape and all elements involved in the downtown area. It, in large part emanates from a master plan, which involves an embellishment of a sidewalk area intended to. Offer and opportunity for the business community to offer additional sidewalk seating and. Additional pedestrian space along grand boulevard. There would be also features to include bike racks and banners and pardon me seating areas and other hardscape elements. There would be a bike path, a raised bike path and landscaping. Turn lanes would be eliminated in that area. There would be a narrowing of lanes. You have seen a layout of the proposed project. There is an appropriation in the fiscal year 26, 27 of $190,000 to support engineering costs, and $2 million for construction, which. Aggregates to a total project cost of $2,190,000. And the funding source that we are indicating to support that project is tax increment funding. Of course, the next project is the sims landing improvement, which is in large part located on the northeast corner of main street and river road. And what we're calling for is an evaluation to determine the feasibility of establishing two potential boardwalks to be constructed underneath the main street bridge. One boardwalk is proposed to be on the west side of the bridge connecting sims landing to acorn street. The second boardwalk on the east [01:05:05] Side of the bridge connecting sims park to lincoln street. The engineering is proposed for the 2627 fiscal year. We have appropriated a $75,000 expenditure to support that effort. Are there any questions related to the project? Okay, I'll move on to the cody river project development. This project involves the redevelopment of the former riverside end project, which is commonly referred to as. It involves more property than the former riverside end, but a master planning session will be conducted with the CRA in order to do, in large part, a visioning and mass massing exercise to determine the uses that will be established on the property and how those uses will be placed on the property so that Mr. Gammon can put together a request for proposal and get that out so that we can start the process of solidifying the project and getting the county cooperation and moving that project. Important project forward. And the former terrace improvement project is, interestingly enough, not where former terrace it would you would normally think it is this former terrace spans. Perpendicular to highway 19 and south of marine parkway and north of former terrace and so in. In common terms, it's in front of the sea fire grill and it is. The proposed improvements include the establishment of a multi use path connecting to the city's existing multi use path at marine parkway. And in addition, elements including parking, landscaping and decorative lighting will also be put in place for the coming fiscal year. An appropriation of $95,000 has been established to complete the necessary engineering to support the project. The bicycle trail master plan is the next project in the plan, and the proposed project involves the creation of a shared use program and identifies and allows for the implementation of a shared use network throughout the city. It's a continuation of a previously approved project and a $15,000 appropriation has been established for engineering $100,000 for construction. And the city has established, or the staff, I should say, has established, $65,000 in tax increment funding, along with a potential $50,000 in grant funding to support the project. The next project I interrupt real quick. You sure can on that. So when we're doing this, I guess we're we've got a consultant. I just want to make sure that we're, we're tying in with the with the county also and what they have going on. We would be linked. Yes. To the city because some reason I talk about it at the. Mpo mpo sorry. And you know, that's kind of katherine's thing and she starts rattling off things. I'm like, what are you talking about? You know, we're doing this here. And she's like, oh, what? You know, and they just did a sidewalk project going down grand boulevard all the way to 54. And she was like, well, isn't that going to be [01:10:02] Multi-use? And you know, they had already done it. You know, it's just, you know, nobody's talking is my point. So I just want to make sure that we're coordinating with them on that. Certainly. So we're all on the same page because it gets away quickly. Certainly. And we don't want to duplicate. I'll make sure that's the case. The next project is the former schwartzman education center, former Gulf high school project, and the project will involve planning for renovations and preservations of the valuable historical asset to determine the full scope of future uses of the property. The planning will include an evaluation of the current site conditions and the engineering for the project has been set at $200,000, and at this point, the future year. Construction and engineering has been set at $6,700,000 and. The next project is downtown business wayfinding signage. Not to be confused with another signage project we have in here. This is. For retailers naming the names of businesses and the proposed project includes creation and implementation of downtown business. Wayfinding signs and the criteria guidelines for eligibility, design, locations, design, specifications, fabrication and installation of business wayfinding signage. We've appropriated $65,000 for engineering and the preparation of the plans and specifications, and $400,000 for construction of the signs. The. I'm not in favor of this in the of the project at all. Well, it's fine that you put it in the future years, I think. But we have so many projects and putting people, giving people a chance to have us promote their businesses and where that goes and how we place it. I think our, our, our grand boulevard streetscaping, our bridge, all of the design and the future of the city and the way it works. I hate to be adding more signage than we have for businesses that we don't have enough of yet. In terms of the businesses that the walking public or the driving public would want to see, I've got to see the railroad square accelerated across nebraska. Personally, I know it's something that maybe the mainstreet folks would like, but just putting their name on the sign isn't going to get them to pull in. I mean, we, I think it's the businesses to. Yeah, I'd rather kind of leave the money in for sort of design and concept over the year. And if it, if, if it works, then I may push it out a year, I would, I would ask to. Yeah, I would say that I would actually hold it until you do the other half of railroad square. Okay. So do you want to keep it in mind? It's not a bad idea. Debbie. I'm just saying, I don't think they're ready for it with, especially if you're going to do the other part of railroad square that all that brings to Mr. Gammon and all the folks wanting to have their name and it's a. You almost need a new employee, the staff to manage with all the applications and the locations and the permitting. And I don't know. Okay. Also, we just I mean, every time I read an article in a Florida magazine, it talks about breweries having problems and we have four breweries in town. So what's our chances of them all for being here in a year? I'm just saying, I hope they are. But it's just, you know, just as an example. Yeah. Okay. We can delay the implementation of the project, try to push more money to railroad square, to implementing the second phase. That'd be better. Yeah. And can some of that money you're pushing be not called engineering anymore? Because I love the engineers designing things, but I'd rather have us get, if not the architect who was here, I'd rather have us try to look back to that sort [01:15:02] Of master planning. You have all these little design charrettes, and each one is separate and bringing a whole. I'd rather just blow it all out and say, here's our town and this is our connectivity. That kind of like we talked about a few years ago. And here's some thematic way we can establish something that will attract people to want to come and do it. I mean, a good drawing will bring more people to follow up on a p. Then all of this. Yeah, yeah, we'll tell you where it's at all the time. We'll let you know. Yeah. Wait till I'm bored. No, I'm just kidding. No. And when you're down there, people ask, you know, thank you. I'm gonna take a year off at least. The next project, if you're ready on that main street or something. No, I'm not getting pressure from main street. This was brought up by the council. Yeah, yeah, that would go a lot further. Some time ago. Some time ago, things change and things change. Streetscape improvements. The project allows for the enhancement of the CRA, just including to. And it really is just a continuation of a previously approved activity. It's replacement of existing, you know, hardscape items that get worn out or adding planters or street furniture where they're needed. And. We've appropriated $200,000 to do that. Could you get an analysis? I know we leased the poles and they get knocked over and we replace them. But I, you know, when we go to conferences and you see some of the really nice elements that are not going to be in the middle of the road, they get knocked over. That's when you could actually buy something, own it, and not have to pay a lease payment on it. I would love to see a report of the electric bill that the CRA is paying, and how much of those electric charges are related to the lease of the equipment versus the power bill? Because when I've looked at it in another city, I'm thinking like, well, they're replacing it if it gets knocked over, but they've got stuff that will last for, you know, for a long time. I just, I think it's just kind of like Lisa by maybe that 200,000 could go to buy like that beautiful clock we have that we own that we don't lease that anymore. Right? So some of the streetscape might actually be permanent and stuff we own and not just additional leases. That's just a something to consider. Okay. And I'll make sure you get a report. But I don't need it right away. But okay, good thing. Crystal. I won't be able to look at it either. So yeah, the next. Activity actually that we're proposing is property acquisition, which is an ongoing activity. This year, we proposed $750,000, a little bit lower of a figure than we typically do, just to have some funding in that activity. The next project is a new project. It's some streetscape on acorn street, and it would involve both hardscape and and landscape, as well as some stormwater and and wastewater improvements. We do use acorn street as a route for the dart, and it's very dark and it will be used with more regularity. If we're successful in getting our our truest property sold. So we think it's important that we fix it up. So we've appropriated $70,000 for architectural and engineering and planning services, and $1,650,000 to bring it up to appropriate standards for a roadway in the city. Can you include it all the way to the river? Sure. Well, I mean, acorn, it has to kind of come over to our other property because of that stormwater. But my wish has always been that [01:20:03] That stormwater from main street landing, which I guess they call it stonehaven. Now that is on our property that is serving as a stormwater should be a pipe and we should be using our land and our right of way or whatever, or redesigning the that as part of the stormwater plan because. Right, because that next to our other lot has a beautiful view down the river. It does. And it also would be the great spot to get that under the bridge to go around the, the, and under the bridge. And so again, I'm glad to see it. Thank you. I think that's a great idea. Okay, maybe it doesn't go farther, but at least it leads to it. The next project is neighborhood alley improvement, not a new project, but we wanted to appropriate a more sizable budget to engineering and construction for so that we could implement some more some more serious types of improvements in our alleys. So we've asked you to consider a budget for engineering in the amount of $150,000, and in construction of $800,000, not indicative of the fact that we're going to ask for a lot of for a whole bunch more pervious surfaces. They don't always have to be that way, but because we want to have a budget to work with to make improvements and, and alleys and a varied number of ways. Parking improvements. This specific expenditure that we're asking you to support has to do with improvements in our city owned parking lots. And specifically, we're talking about the parking lots at the recreation and aquatic center and the city parking lot located at Florida avenue and adams, and we're asking for a total appropriation of $500,000, $50,000 of which would be earmarked for engineering, $450,000 of which would be earmarked for construction during the 2627 fiscal year. The next project is the railroad square, restroom building, and that is a project that we would like to implement this this coming construction season. And it's in response to some. Criticisms, so to speak, from the business community who are. Enjoying the benefit of selling the beer. They just don't want to receive the results of their own customers only. Well, they they're sensitive to some higher usage patterns in their restrooms, not all of which are common customers to them. And people that come into events and cavalier square. Then you got to go run to one of the businesses to go to the bathroom. And, and we had hoped to establish a restroom in phase two. It may be that we need to do it now and we have an opportunity to build one now. So we want to look at that and pursue it. Where would it be built? Well, we we're looking at a couple couple options, a couple options. It I have a couple of couple ideas. I do have a couple ideals that dave gammon and I have come up with. And one is near the red cross building or as part of that assemblage. The second is in. That's the best one. Let's just say that's the best one for now. Let's hear the second one. It might be a good one. It's not as attractive. Yeah, it's in the golf cart spaces facing cavalier square. It's not as good. Yeah. No, I don't like that idea. Well, see, I didn't want to throw it out there. We eminent domain the verizon building or something. We can't. It's not it wouldn't be cost effective. Okay. They probably [01:25:01] Don't need all that space in there. They don't need all that space. That is the part that's really frustrating. If you could go into the, you know, take a section of the building. I've asked, I begged, they're not interested. Yeah, they're too big and they're not they're not friendly about it either. So in all likelihood, it's over by the red cross idea. It's a good spot. Important. Yeah. Risky. Elementary. Maybe we go there. So town and country villas redevelopment project as part of the city's commitment to the redevelopment of that neighborhood. We promise to pave the road and put in sidewalks and street lighting and to establish a pocket park. And in that, to do some landscaping. So we have to acquire a little bit of property to establish the pocket park. And so in 2627, we established a property acquisition category and appropriated $15,000 for that purpose. And. That is what we are requesting for. 2627 the other expenditures will be handled in future years. Have we annexed it into the CRA yet? We are, dave. Mr. Gammons working on that. And it'll happen before year end will be done by then. The final expenditure in this fund is the proposed project to establish the overhead bridge spanning over 19 at marine parkway, and we need to update our plan document so that we're grant ready. And we have appropriated $30,000 for planning purposes to do so. What about right of way acquisition? I see it on the timeline there, but we're not we're not certain at this point. We want to finish our planning. We just plugged in a figure just in case there is some required because that's I mean, because that's part of it too, as far as looking at stuff that get bumped up on the list is if you have, you know, property acquisition and all that ready to go, that's I know that's a big component. And I don't know if you've heard anything else back about them when they're about the build grant. Yeah, we have heard just recently and unfortunately we didn't have success with the grant app, but that was only our first try. Right? But we changed the name of it to because you mentioned it might be a feasible relocate to main street, I think. Didn't I hear that? Well, that's the grant. Yeah. Well he was, he was talking about the bill grant I'm talking about with the county trying to put the the bus, what do they call it? Transition station. That was the high speed. Yes. Bus. Yes. So go Pasco. Yeah. It wasn't Pasco bus. Oh no it was it was for Pinellas. Sorry. Right. Pinellas. Yeah. And a tod transportation oriented district. So they have they ever said anything else about that or because I know we we already had a plan for marine parkway and they were looking at main street. Right. So that was part of it was I haven't heard anything. Pedestrian bridge. Have you heard something? Bridge was not part of it. Of the forward Pinellas. That was something we came up with. If we move the bridge. That was not a forward. Oh, I thought they had to do. I thought they had to do that to get people across the road. No no no no no. They picked main street without a pedestrian bridge. But just just think about it though. The the route into our downtown is off of main street. Yeah. And if you've got all this interest that you have in crossing over and then all the residents that are out there that could come into town on main street, if you did it there, that would be great. But, you know, I'm only suggesting that we say we like a connection of the coast to coast trail and the Pinellas trail, and that means maybe that if it went to main, then we'd have to find our way around this, the treatment plan or through what? We have quite a bit of land. We could even find a path through, probably to have that bike trail to get to that parkway. But didn't you have a design of the oh, that was just to do roads in town for the bicycles, right? Yeah, [01:30:03] But you call it pedestrian. I'm just wondering if we could call it something that would attract those grants for ecotourism. Yeah. And call it, you know, they highway 19 crossing pedestrian. Bike path. Pedestrian bridge. And and that may help us to. And maybe I have to learn if you guys are opposed to it, but I think it's not a bad idea to have that rapid run that doesn't have so many stops going to help people get jobs in Pinellas. Oh, absolutely. Have to have it come from it makes sense. They wanted to have this here a long time ago and we chased them off kind of well, me and my my, my thought behind that was, is if, if they do do that, whether it's main or what for marine, that that would be easy tying with them and they probably would help with the whole project, right? You know, tie it into the same one. So we get some help from them and their, their funding sources to. So it just would be, it makes sense to say, oh, yeah, we need a pedestrian overpass, you know, and then you can work that into the project. I think it's part of the joint planning exercise. And we just have more of that cooperation you've been asking for on all of these bicycle trails and crossings and figure out what what they've come, and maybe they get excited about the money we're spending in our CRA. Instead of someone who keeps trying to peck at us to let it go because they they want it back so they could move it to the sun mines or some other place, you know? Yeah. Oops, did I say that? Well, that concludes the our $8,080,000 worth of redevelopment fund projects. Thank you for your help. Mr. Gammon. And I know he'll stay connected to those projects. And also the high speed transit project. And now we can move on to our street improvement fund. Thank you, miss manson. So this is the street improvement fund 701. We'll start with our first project. And this will be the traffic sign upgrades. This project includes the continuation of the upgrades to our traffic signs and posts in the downtown and palm district. The total project cost for fiscal year 2627 is $50,000. Next project is the neighborhood improvement project. This is for south river road. The scope of work for this project will be milling, resurfacing, and narrowing of the existing roadway. In addition, it will include the installation of a five foot sidewalk system on the west side of river road from main street to south road. The project also involves removal of some utility poles, installation of landscape and hardscape, improved lighting and the installation of decorative traffic poles with upgraded traffic signs attached. The total project cost for fiscal year 2627 is $950,000, so we're going to narrow that road just like we did on the other side. It would be very similar to north river road going north of main street. Would it physically narrow the road because it's pretty narrow there as it is? One little twist, especially. Yeah, we haven't gone to design on that yet. So we'd be looking at that survey elements and all that it's going to take evaluate that because of what happened in grant. It's too narrow, turbid there a couple times around that corner. Yeah. We got old people. Me. Next project is the crosswalk signage and lighting. And this is our annual this is the project. This project will include the installation of an led crosswalk system, and this one will be at main street and Florida avenue. And that one will be fiscal year for 26, 27, $90,000. I'd like to go back to south river road. I remember something that councilman patel has said several times. I just want to bring it up and a good conversation when I have a chance to have it with him, which is something like, I don't want to do anything that's going to increase the traffic from what we do with all our land. We're getting ready to sell and develop on river road as it comes to main. And so. Operating with the DOT to find out how that density goes, the other direction and what kind of street improvements we make. I think when you say neighborhood improvement project and, and I guess did I hear that you and then you said you might fix it [01:35:05] Up with streetscape and the same like that we have on the other side of the road. Yeah. I got somewhat aggravated when those folks come in and tell us they don't want cars driving on it because they like it so much and they want it to be quiet, to back you up on the west side of river road, it's going to be pretty much all commercial. That's not the same as in north river road. So when you say neighborhood, to your point, it's really going to be important that that road functions. It's like half, half, half, half of its neighborhood, half its commercial. Yeah. On the west side, the west side. The west side is the east side. Right. Well, both it's going to be it's a north south road on the west side of where the suntrust building where suntrust is. That's 19. If more neighborhood based work is going in on the east side, which this road is up against, what's the what's the if you get if you go on the curve and you're going down south. Yeah, there's golf. All that is on the on the west side is commercial. Right further down with the old kaiser is. And. Right. Yeah, yeah. All that down there. And this goes all the way down to golf or. Yeah. No this this would continue down the south road. So this would end prior to golf. Yeah. But but I'm asking how far the because I'm I'm imagining this within the context of the stopping there. But you're really not I mean it's not as far as traffic and people driving it. You can you can you can stop it at south. But it's not traffic's not going to stop at south. Right. Well, I feel like with what we have decided what's going to go there, we don't know the density yet. We're going out for bid. I would love once again for you to just push that out one more year. We look at how many projects we had last year that we said we were going to do, and let's do them. But how about that streetscape money for the time being being added to the golf, the the grand boulevard to let's get a. I'd rather see street lights along that brand new boulevard when the bridge is going in to make that, you know, the. Frank Starkey had his big. The paris boulevard, you know, as as a whole, you know, property that we own on, on river road. I mean, on river road gets developed. We don't even know what's going in there or anything. It's ahead of the ball game up there. And especially to narrow it. Well, I think you've got to be pretty close to unanimous or at least you got three. I just feel that we're going to have construction in and out of there, and we just fix the road up. Yeah. As I wait until that's done before we even fool with it. Yeah. And I didn't mean to be negative towards you. I don't know that their initiative or how it came up because it's just a continuation of our design. But to that point, you've already got a pin. You've got to put it on. I think it needs to be done. I just think it's just a little early. Yeah. Yeah. I was going to say, is there more rationale behind south river road? Well, the neighbors felt really shorted. I know when the improvements were made on the other side of river road, and they weren't any improvements made on their side. And it felt like we were kind of making a commitment to them to get back to them and get it done, put it the next year. You didn't. We didn't make that commitment. Yeah, council made that commitment. It sounded like you wanted it done. I never did in last year's. You can put it in whatever year you want. Last year's capital is in. Are we going to keep kicking? Yeah. It's just you're just was in last year's last year before the horse. I mean, I don't disagree with the residents wanting to have it like north, but with that project there and the uncertainty, it's just got to be pushed out. Why is that? Is the reverse true too? I mean, are we are we making investments in south river road that could attract certain developers considering. No, no, no, it could be part of our negotiations. When we find out what they have in mind from design. What's that big lot by la-z-boy that's going to end up being commercial too. We can easily push it out. Yeah. We've got so much to design. We just can't use the local option gas tax somewhere on a non local option gas tax project. So we can just push it out. But I mean it makes sense. I mean if you need if you need a complicated project to try to do indiana avenue on the on the east of congress street is still something I'm going to be bothering with bothering you with coming up here. So the sidewalk project there, the, the drawings you had shown me of the the where it cuts off from county owned and city [01:40:07] Owned. Putting a sidewalk by the dobies. Does that fall under this? I know it's not downtown and this is this is our property was the question. Right? Some of it's split pretty much in half. And the part I'm I'm talking about extends pretty far. It's our side is our side. Yeah. All the way down through. There's a lot of people I'm going to have to look at it. I don't think we can use local option gas tax for a sidewalk, but I can check. But we have a generic sidewalk and improvement budget. Is that a was there a couple hundred thousand in that? Or maybe I'm mistaken. Still tell the people on south river it's in the budget. You can always call a regular. I think it'd be much. I can only hear one person call for a regular generics like you do with your stormwater infill. And so we have the ability for you to come and say, you know, we can do this because we have some money budgeted without designing it. Now, this project here, you can say it's still on the budget. It's just not this coming year. I think because they've delayed us what their concerns, their home. Listening to this, I'm sorry, this discussion, these words, were they all in here? I'm that one year break isn't going to be long enough. Don't talk to me like you own the place, you know. Yeah. All right, let's get back on task here. Roger. Neither. So the I got you. Thank you. The next project would be the 2627 roadway and parking lot striping program. This program is designed for the project management and installation of track traffic control markings throughout the city roadways, and city owned parking lots as needed. The fiscal year 2627 total project cost 250,000 and 300,000 for future years. The next project for discussion is the neighborhood sidewalk improvement program. This program includes the removal and replacement of deficient sidewalks, as well as establishment of infill sidewalks in neighborhoods where needed. Improvements have been identified based on the city's pavement management plan. This year's improvement includes the completion of sidewalk construction in the heights neighborhood and infilling in the north grand neighborhood, and for fiscal year 2627, the total project cost is $225,000. When are we due to look at that plan again? You got like five year cycles or ten year cycles. Do you know how far we have? We have the ten year cycles on this. And so we're in year 7 or 8. I'll have to take a look and remind myself again. Areas that are brought up can be looked at and yes, into the picture that is local gas. And it is okay. I think it's worth a larger conversation. I know it's it's complicated by the fact that the county has a portion of it, but like I said, I, I, I eventually am going to plan to bring something to the council that talks about, I mean, you just have to drive down there to see how many people walk it. And but I'll bring some information. I'd really like to see if there is money that's getting shifted or pushed out, if that could potentially be made a priority based on my pitch to council, or if you get a chance to go out there and just see how many, especially older folks, I like the idea as long as we can. Boundaries. Yeah. As long as the boundaries. Yeah. What's it's it's it's indiana avenue, congress east. And I don't know what road it cuts off for county, but it goes to rowing. Rowing. Yeah. Now, would that be on the north side of indiana or south. I would imagine I would imagine south or, or I, I don't know. I look we have a map, but what we would have to do is look at the city proper areas, and then we could identify which one's going to get us the most. So if the north side may have a longer section that we can install sidewalk on, then that's where we would go. If it's the south side and we have the right of way, then we can do it that way. Somebody asked me to put my sign up when I was running and they said, I actually don't live in the city, but it's so close that people won't know that, you know, you fooled them. Yeah. I don't see anything else any more. Communication was there. Were we at this was the we have two more street. Is this a beer guy? Where is that? Two more street real quick. It's right here. Two more that said indiana by van buren. He's he's he's he's west. We he's farther west. I don't think he's advocating for sidewalk. This is jeff street [01:45:01] Improvement project. We have the. Yeah. 2526 street improvement project. Not yet. Okay. Street improvement. So go ahead. Street. This this project is part of the 20 year pavement management plan that was created to improve the city's roadway infrastructure. Next year's project will include elm street from george street to madison street, pine street from aspen street to madison street, meadow lane street from george street to madison street. You awesome. You got. We'll be improving many of those areas and. The total project cost for fiscal year 2627 is $1,740,000. Future years. Last. You know what that is? Yeah. Last project here for the street fund is the 2627 street improvement project. And it's similar to the previous project presented. And it's part of the 20 year pavement management plan. And it's created to improve the city's roadway and infrastructure. And for the fiscal year 2627, this is for the cost of engineering. The total project cost is $210,000. And that concludes our presentation to you this evening. Are there any projects that we didn't include that you'd like to see included? Yeah, yeah. And I think the project is going to cause us to go back to the county discussion. So I think there's two areas that are specific in my head, one which will possibly cause us to start agreeing to begin to collect transportation impact fees at some time in the future because they have a transportation impact fee by zone, and they make improvements in those zones. When we did the main street expansion, because down past the post office, that was a joint project with penny for Pasco and they paid the left side is county, the right side is city. They did. They agreed to do it together. And then they had a big celebration many years after I was gone for that project. So you guys hopefully will be able to celebrate some of these things. We'll get started. But whether we have penny for Pasco or not, madison street, with the bridge coming in in a year and a half, the the corner of cecilia where you can't make a left turn coming back from work at the end of the day, and you're coming off a 54 and you're coming into town and you can't come in on grand boulevard anymore. And they're all going to be coming in on madison and there's no left turn there. So I don't know. It's going to cost a lot of money if they were going to take those cars out, but that's the place that's going to need at some point a roundabout, I'm sorry to say. You know, it's going to have to happen if we're going to have traffic flowing through there. I love roundabouts, what's that? If madison. What madison and cecilia. Yeah. So I'm telling you when people are waiting to turn left there and the traffic going the other way or after school or whatever, just widen it up and turn left lane, that would be great or something. Yeah. You don't need a roundabout. You turn left lane. Well, I know, but I'm just saying something. After we're long dead and gone, there'll be a roundabout there. I'm betting you have your name on it. Altman. Altman. Roundabout. Altman roundabout. Round and round we go. I think looking at. But madison itself, especially with the hospital, old hospital being developed. Because people will leave there and go out. Madison, we've heard so much complain about the traffic that's going to be created by this new community that's going in there. Yeah. So whether it's grand boulevard, madison, I'm with you. I think we should be pitching the county because it's county as well. And it's some of the crummiest looking interest to town with some of the poor cars parked in all the way out on the. Yeah, it's tight, it's tight. It's a it's an unfortunate entrance into our city. Another example of trying to get ahead of the ball game. Yeah, well, I'm trying to. Well the plan goes out. Well that's it. I mean the other one was 2032. So I really feel like massachusetts is the next entry coming in off of the road extension into our city. And we have the mcdonald's there now. And we got, you know, the new coffee shop and stuff that's starting to happen. And we have the signage issues and the county, they need to create a CRA of their own for that whole area about congress in there. And they need to dedicate some money to revitalizing. And I think the planning department loves redevelopment. So let's get them to take the pieces [01:50:01] That we don't own and start making some agreements to join with us. That's all I can say. Oh, that'd be your job, though. You could do it. Anyway. Massachusetts and madison, I think, need to have some kind of plan that we could take to them, if nothing else, even if we just invested in some thought, you know, I it's pretty big cement pole up there at cecilia. Yeah. That would cause you to think you couldn't do it. But. Anyway, I think those are trouble spots. We could be prepared. Oh yeah. Anything * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.
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