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   Review of the FY 2025/2026 - FY 2029-2030 Proposed Capital Improvement Program

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   Staff presented the proposed FY 2025/26–2029/30 Capital Improvement Program totaling $23,870,000 across all funds. Public Works Director Rivera walked council through projects funded by the General Fund, Stormwater Utility, Capital Improvement Fund, and other sources, including pool resurfacing, rec center roof replacement, Beach Street stormwater improvements, James E. Gray Preserve improvements, Peace Hall renovations, skate park renovation, Sims Park railing, fire station and city hall hardening, and the Grand Boulevard Bridge replacement. Council discussed concerns about over-reliance on Penny for Pasco funds, possible relocation of the skate park, and the structural condition of Peace Hall.

   • direction:Council directed staff to update the 24-25 fiscal year column on the CIP schedule that did not carry down correctly. (none)

   📍Astor Drive📍Beach Street📍Berkeley Road/Avenue📍Carlton Road📍Conger Street📍Dartmouth Road📍Delaware📍Francis Avenue Park📍Grand Boulevard📍High Street📍Madison Street📍Main Street📍Maple Street📍Palmetto🏢FEMA🏢Pasco County🏢Swetman High School🏢Tarpon Springs Architectural👤Councilman Altman👤Debbie Mann👤Dixie👤Mr. Rivera👤Robert👤Wayne Ray#2013 Stormwater Master Plan 10-year update#2024 Carlton/Dartmouth/Berkeley Resiliency Improvements#2026 Inundation Pond Project#Beach Street Stormwater Resiliency Improvements#CDBG-DR#Capital Improvement Fund 301#City Hall Facility Hardening Renovation#EOC#FY 2025/2026 - FY 2029/2030 Proposed Capital Improvement Program#Fire Station 1 Hardening Project#General Fund 001#Grand Boulevard Bridge Replacement#James E. Gray Preserve Improvements Phase 1#James E. Gray Preserve Restroom Upgrades#Peace Hall Renovations#Penny for Pasco#Pool Resurfacing (plunge, dive, lap)#Rec Center Flat Asphalt Roof Replacement#Recreation Center Skate Park Project#Sims Park Amphitheater Railing#Stormwater Utility Fund#Town and Country Villas Flood Abatement Project

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   [00:00:18] Thank you, Mr. [00:00:19] Mayor. [00:00:20] This evening we will be presenting to you the fiscal year [00:00:29] 2025-2026 through fiscal year 2029-2030 proposed capital [00:00:39] improvement program. [00:00:44] The development of a capital improvement program is really one of the most [00:00:47] important responsibilities of local government officials. [00:00:52] The capital improvement program, of course, is a document that we review [00:00:57] annually, and the reason that we review it annually is to ensure that it [00:01:04] reflects first the changing needs of the community and any current funding [00:01:11] opportunities that may be available, as well as to ensure that the [00:01:16] infrastructure that we are proposing improvements to truly advances the [00:01:22] community's strategic and long-term goals and objectives. [00:01:29] A capital improvement project, which is what the program is based on, is [00:01:35] typically a structural improvement to a property or an asset that either [00:01:41] prolongs its life, increases its value, or enhances its capabilities. [00:01:50] The capital improvement program itself is a plan for capital expenditures that [00:01:55] extends, obviously, for five years in our case, but in other cases beyond [00:02:00] that, and it contains a capital improvement budget. [00:02:04] The capital improvement program encompasses all individual improvement [00:02:09] projects, along with a construction schedule and financing sources, and it [00:02:18] is particularly valuable to the city because it integrates both strategic [00:02:26] planning and financial capacity and physical development all into one document. [00:02:33] The capital improvement program stands at the center of both the public works [00:02:38] department and the finance department, and I work very closely with both of [00:02:45] those departments on the development and the implementation of this budget. [00:02:52] I'd like to thank both of them for all of their work in the [00:02:58] development of this year's budget. [00:03:00] This year's budget contains funds allocated in the amount of $23,870,000 in [00:03:12] all funds, and with that, I would like Mr. [00:03:17] Rivera, our director of public works, to start with the presentation this [00:03:24] evening, and the funding source that we will start with is the city's [00:03:30] summary of general fund projects. [00:03:33] It's on page three, and we're going to do this like we typically do every year. [00:03:39] We'll turn it to the spreadsheet so that you can look at those and you can look [00:03:43] at the numbers and the funding sources, and then what I will do is call out the [00:03:48] projects that are either in progress or are scheduled to begin in 25-26. [00:03:57] And so, like Ms. [00:03:58] Mann said, this is the general fund 001. [00:04:01] We've got two projects in this fund, and the first one is the pool resurfacing. [00:04:09] We are going to do the plunge pool and the dive pool in 25-26, and then we'll [00:04:16] finish up with the lap pool in 26-27, and then we have the flat asphalt roof [00:04:22] replacement at the rec center. [00:04:25] As you are aware, the rec center serves as our EOC during events that we do have. [00:04:32] We do get those roofs inspected annually, and this one has served its youthful life, [00:04:38] and the report has indicated that they recommend that it does get replaced. [00:04:44] It's got some major repairs that we have to do, and so the funding sources for both [00:04:49] of these projects are penny for PASCO. [00:04:52] Are there any questions? [00:04:58] Only that I think into the future, when you've got a $700,000 roof replacement to [00:05:05] that, and pool replacements and other capital improvements and replacements, [00:05:11] that at some point, you know, penny for PASCO isn't always there to make those [00:05:20] kind of improvements, so the maintenance of our facilities is going to end up being, [00:05:27] you know, our obligation at one point. [00:05:29] So, you know, these projects come up, and projects that were on previous capital [00:05:37] improvement plans no longer are funded and have to be reallocated and funded [00:05:42] into the future, so you can't delay a roof replacement in the world we're in. [00:05:54] There's no renewal and replacement fund within the general fund. [00:05:58] We only do that in the public works. [00:06:02] We don't have either one of those. [00:06:04] We used to. [00:06:05] Yeah. [00:06:06] I was one of the ones that kind of let that go to try to make sure we were programming things out, so. [00:06:15] I'd like to bring up the fact... [00:06:18] It's going to be penny for PASCO. [00:06:20] If you're recognizing me now, I'll bring up the fact that we have submitted the roof [00:06:27] replacement as a project for CDBGDR funds through PASCO County, so there is a [00:06:36] possibility that we will be funded for that flat roof replacement, though if we [00:06:45] are not, the project for the flat asphalt roof replacement is an eligible expenditure [00:06:53] for penny for PASCO tax funds under the ordinance language as it exists today, but [00:07:01] Councilman Altman does bring up a good point, and we do have to be really careful [00:07:07] with over-reliance on that fund, even though this is clearly a maintenance [00:07:14] project that will prolong the life of the building. [00:07:17] Right, so it's capital, and I think the good news is, is that you've somehow [00:07:21] identified that you would use $200,000 a year in the future from that funding, so [00:07:28] point being, the 24-25 fiscal year, it says, is underneath the 25-26 fiscal year [00:07:42] on the schedule ahead of it, so am I off a column, and that has to be updated? [00:07:56] Down below. [00:08:01] Under the same funding? [00:08:04] Yes. [00:08:05] I'm sorry, this up here says in 25-26, you're going to spend the money? [00:08:12] Those dates up top are correct, it didn't carry down. [00:08:15] That's what I'm asking, so those can be modified back. [00:08:23] So point being, this year we're using some for the general fund, and in the future [00:08:27] you're not, so you're already kind of answered my question that way too, not [00:08:32] over rely on it, thank you. [00:08:38] Any more questions? [00:08:40] Okay, so our next funding source that we have is the storm water utility, that [00:08:45] spreadsheet starts on page six. [00:08:49] The first project that we have is the miscellaneous flood control and water quality projects. [00:08:56] This is a budgeted miscellaneous project that we put a few hundred thousand in every [00:09:05] year, this is to help address any of our flooding problems that we may have during [00:09:10] our rainy season, it allocates those funds to where we can respond if there are [00:09:17] situations where we can't perform the work in-house and we may have to get a [00:09:20] contractor to come in here and clear some canals or ditches or whatever it may be, [00:09:27] a collapse to outfall pipe, those types of items, so that just gives us a funding [00:09:31] source that we can utilize. [00:09:35] The following one is the Beach Street storm water resiliency improvements, and this [00:09:41] one is ongoing right now, we just started about a month ago, it's the one that you [00:09:46] see over there at the Swetman High School, and so we're approximately halfway [00:09:53] through, so we started at the river and now we're working our way up to High Street [00:10:00] and Maple Street, it includes about 2,000 feet of 36-inch pipe as well as a CDS unit [00:10:07] which will be installed, that will be our water quality element that will treat the [00:10:12] water prior to being discharged into the river. [00:10:23] The next one that we have is the 2024 Carlton Road, Dartmouth Road, Berkeley Avenue [00:10:29] resiliency improvements, this is in your 2013 storm water master plan 10-year update, [00:10:37] we have inlet installations at Astor Drive, Berkeley Road, Carlton, Dartmouth, and [00:10:43] Palmetto right now, there is no existing storm system in that area, and we'll be [00:10:49] installing approximately 1,500 linear feet of 36-inch storm water pipe, and again we [00:10:55] will install a CDS unit to try to treat some of that water before it discharges into [00:11:01] the river. [00:11:03] You'll see that we have a construction budget of $1,500,000, we do have legislative [00:11:11] appropriations in the amount of $1,130,000 that will go towards the project itself, so [00:11:19] this was very good news for us. [00:11:22] Is that the current budget of the state? [00:11:24] Yes, sir. [00:11:25] And it's signed, well he hasn't vetoed it yet, did he, Wayne Ray? [00:11:29] That's correct. [00:11:31] Got a few more, another week or so. [00:11:33] We do, we do. [00:11:38] And he's going to get it done before, we'll see. [00:11:42] The next one that we have is the Town and Country Villas Flood Abatement Project, this [00:11:46] is a project that we will be coming to you at our next week's council meeting to request [00:11:55] an authorization for signature and grant transfer. [00:11:59] Pasco County had applied for this grant, it's due to the Adelaida flooding that occurred [00:12:05] on the west of 19. [00:12:07] When Pasco County submitted for the grant, obviously that area was an unincorporated [00:12:13] Pasco County. [00:12:15] The city annexed it during the process, and so FEMA has allowed the county to go ahead [00:12:22] and offer the transfer up to us if we wanted to take over the project and perform it, we [00:12:29] would be able to receive grant funding that the county had. [00:12:33] And so we're in the process of trying to get that taken care of first. [00:12:37] So the grant is a 75-25 split. [00:12:42] We do have, let's see here, we have a project estimate of approximately $1.2 million of [00:12:51] that, the FEMA grant would pay for $939,417, so the city would have to do a contribution [00:13:01] of about $313,000. [00:13:10] The last one in the stormwater utility is the 2026 Inundation Pond Project, you're very [00:13:18] aware of that. [00:13:20] That also comes with a 50-50 grant, matching grant, $800,000 from the state, and then the [00:13:28] city would contribute $800,000 for their share. [00:13:34] Do we have any questions? [00:13:47] So if we go to page 14, the next funding source that we have is the Capital Improvement [00:13:55] Fund, that is 301. [00:14:00] The first project that we have before you is the James E. Gray Preserve Improvements, [00:14:06] this is phase one, the Conger Street parking entrance, that's that property that the city [00:14:11] acquired a few years back. [00:14:14] The project includes landscaping, the construction of a parking lot, restroom, and trail that [00:14:21] would connect to the existing trail, and so we have $140,000 budgeted for engineering [00:14:30] services next year. [00:14:46] The next project is also the James E. Gray Preserve Restroom Upgrades, there's an existing [00:14:52] restroom on the preserve that has really served its purpose. [00:15:00] It's useful life and it's in need of some major upgrades, so we've budgeted $35,000 [00:15:07] for engineering and then $300,000 for the construction project itself. [00:15:20] And we have Peace Hall renovations. [00:15:24] This is for the design as well as the construction, well actually I take that back, the engineering [00:15:32] that you see will be part of the construction phase. [00:15:36] We got a task order, we've got an engineer that is giving us its final draft that we'll [00:15:43] bring to you to start the engineering process. [00:15:47] And so this includes major renovations like I talked about, roof replacement, facade repair, [00:16:00] electrical upgrades, ADA amendments, and we've got floor replacements, lighting upgrades, [00:16:08] restroom, just a total major renovation to the structure itself. [00:16:19] Is the structure sound? [00:16:20] I couldn't answer that right now. [00:16:21] I'm just saying we're putting in $600,000 plus to it. [00:16:22] I'm just curious, it's an old building, that's why I'm asking. [00:16:34] We're leaning towards taking and dismantling the whole thing and then reconstructing a [00:16:43] different one. [00:16:45] So we're in the process of looking at a couple different concepts that they have. [00:16:52] It's historic, but it's also wood. [00:16:55] It's just a standard restroom that you'd see at any kind of preserve or park. [00:17:00] No, no, no, Peace Hall itself. [00:17:04] Is that what we're talking about, Peace Hall? [00:17:06] Yes, it is. [00:17:07] I'm sorry. [00:17:08] So that's what I'm saying. [00:17:12] So we've done a deficiency, I'm sorry, we've done a deficiency analysis and so it's not, [00:17:19] we can restore it and while we're restoring it and taking and doing those major repairs, [00:17:26] they have looked at the flooring and those types of things and we can go ahead and the [00:17:32] structure itself can remain intact with the improvements that we're going to do. [00:17:37] And I apologize. [00:17:38] You're going to take down the restroom in the Great Preserve and build a new one, is [00:17:43] that what you're saying? [00:17:44] No. [00:17:45] No, we're in two different spots. [00:17:46] No, I know, but when you said you were going to remove it and rebuild it, is that what [00:17:49] you were talking about? [00:17:50] Yes, the restroom we're going to rebuild at the Great Preserve, yes. [00:17:52] That's what he was referring to. [00:17:54] Yes. [00:17:55] When you said take down Peace Hall, that got our attention, I think, or others. [00:18:01] I want to go back to it because I mentioned to Debbie, she probably mentioned to you the [00:18:05] north side of the building, it's wood and it's deteriorating and it's mildewy and it's [00:18:12] just in need of a lot of repairs, so I'm just saying we do that, but is the structure still [00:18:17] good? [00:18:18] That's what I'm asking. [00:18:19] The structure is still good. [00:18:20] It has good bones and so we can get in there and go ahead and take care of everything and [00:18:24] then start replacing the different aesthetics, if you will, those types of things, and make [00:18:32] minor adjustments to the floor plan if we want to, instead of having the two levels, [00:18:36] if you want to level it all out. [00:18:38] It's what's inside, it's the outside of it. [00:18:40] Those types of things. [00:18:41] The outside is doable. [00:18:42] Okay, because I'm saying the north side looks bad. [00:18:43] Robert, on the floor, just so you know, if you can store it or get the inventory, but [00:18:52] I was at the Tarpon Springs Architectural little shop right off the Pinellas Trail there [00:19:05] at Martin Luther King, and they just took down a historic building in Pinellas and they've [00:19:11] got shrink-wrapped, really nice pine flooring that would probably match, so somebody might [00:19:19] want to take a trip and take a look at that, because they had a whole bunch of it, and [00:19:24] it was in good shape, I know, because I had some soft stuff, which I put in, but Dixie [00:19:33] is like, get that, it's not going to work for us, but when you're looking to restore [00:19:39] an old building, you've got to start collecting sometimes those, also Florida hard pine, there's [00:19:47] some there, so it might be worthwhile looking at it. [00:19:52] So I'll just chime in on that, since that's what I do for a living. [00:19:58] Once it gets to an age, you can't refinish it. [00:20:02] So once it gets like 100 years old, where the tongue and groove match up, it's so worn [00:20:08] down, you won't be able to reuse it, so that floor really is at its end. [00:20:15] And so what I did was I took it to somebody who re-channeled it, so that's why I told [00:20:21] Dixie I couldn't use that, because it wouldn't fit into the floor I rebuilt from old, and [00:20:28] then you had to re-so the floor in my house is 100 years old, but it had to be re-tongue [00:20:35] and grooved on the two edges, and you can always sand it down on the top if it's solid, [00:20:41] so you'd have to have enough, look at your square footage, if you're going to try to [00:20:45] do a historic, you know, piece of wood. [00:20:48] I just think it might get to the point where the cost isn't worth the reward, especially [00:20:52] if we're using it for rental space. [00:20:55] So we use current hardwood to put it down here? [00:20:58] That's what I would do. [00:20:59] Yeah, well, he's the floor guy. [00:21:02] Thanks, Robert. [00:21:06] The next project that we have is a recreation center skate park project. [00:21:12] This includes the renovation of the existing skateboard park located at the Rec and Aquatic [00:21:19] Center. [00:21:21] It would include the installation of state-of-the-art skateboard equipment. [00:21:26] If you've been out there and you've seen the condition, it's in pretty bad shape. [00:21:30] New perimeter fencing, lighting upgrades, benches, and landscape treatments, and that's [00:21:41] in the amount of $400,000 for construction. [00:21:46] Nobody has to, when I see people playing basketball or out there, there's no gate or you don't [00:21:54] have it particularly registered, so people can come kind of freely to there and use it. [00:22:01] Right. [00:22:02] That being the case, there's potential for other locations for that if one wanted it [00:22:09] to be moved somewhere else. [00:22:10] It's possible. [00:22:11] If you're going to take the whole thing down, I mean, I don't know if you have a master [00:22:15] plan for the park or if it makes sense or not, but I'm just thinking some place like [00:22:24] another park that might be more, I mean, you've got Francis Avenue Park, it's got lots of [00:22:33] space there, kids go, the schools are there, maybe it's a, you know, I would just look [00:22:41] at spreading the recreation around a few. [00:22:43] Especially since you've got golf coming one way and golf middle coming the other way. [00:22:48] It might be a thought to move it to where the kids are and save the parking, and I don't [00:22:55] know what the overall plan is if you do it, but it's not really connected, is my point, [00:23:00] to registering in and officially being there. [00:23:06] We haven't addressed the relocation of the park at all in our master plan, but we are [00:23:12] due to update our master plan document. [00:23:13] It might be a thought before you do it, just in case you have, get that Olympic sized pool [00:23:21] that Chopper always wanted. [00:23:23] Yeah, but it costs to put two lanes in what it costs to put the pool that's there now. [00:23:31] The next project that you have is the Sims Park amphitheater railing. [00:23:35] We're going to need the rec center. [00:23:36] Have you taken a look at the wind breakers for the tennis court? [00:23:41] They've almost all been replaced. [00:23:46] The Sims Park amphitheater railing, this is in the amount of $75,000. [00:23:52] This is the installation of approximately 525 linear feet of the decorative fencing [00:23:58] that you see out there currently around the playground and such. [00:24:03] The benefit of the railing would be crowd control. [00:24:07] We'd be able to isolate that area, get a better grip on some of the vandalism that [00:24:13] does happen. [00:24:14] When we say crowd control, we also mean golf carts and the motor scooters and those types [00:24:20] of things that can be detrimental to that artificial turf area that's there now. [00:24:25] Would it be around the ring, like, where they put the fencing up otherwise? [00:24:35] Yes, sir. [00:24:37] To keep them from driving up beyond those sidewalks? [00:24:40] Right. [00:24:41] Right. [00:24:42] Because they do drive, they've been, what, driving up on that side of that hill a little [00:24:47] bit? [00:24:48] We've had quite a bit, yes. [00:24:49] They haven't gone on the artificial turf with golf carts. [00:24:52] Yes, they have. [00:24:53] They have. [00:24:54] Really? [00:24:55] Mm-hmm. [00:24:56] Yeah, we actually have to do some repairs to it. [00:24:57] Some of the events, I don't think they do, but maybe... [00:25:01] Not during events. [00:25:02] Just any old time. [00:25:03] Yes. [00:25:04] Can you fix the drainage right there at the entrance while you're at it, too? [00:25:12] When you're coming in off of Main Street, it always holds water. [00:25:17] That one spot... [00:25:19] Where the front strain is? [00:25:21] Yeah. [00:25:22] ...continues to be... [00:25:24] Do we need to put up some signs or something for the golf carts? [00:25:27] We do have signs in place. [00:25:28] They've been in place since the artificial turf was established. [00:25:41] Listening to them, I guess. [00:25:42] Right. [00:25:43] They aren't... [00:25:44] Reading them. [00:25:45] Preachy Elementary, and they can't read you. [00:25:46] They shouldn't be driving a golf cart. [00:25:47] Patrol, though. [00:25:48] Your next project that you have is Fire Station 1 Hardening Project. [00:26:04] Major project elements include the replacement of the bay doors, existing windows, entry [00:26:09] doors, brick joint repairs, the replacement of the metal roof, as well as the replacement [00:26:16] of the generator and the restroom upgrades to the project. [00:26:24] You will see a budget amount of $900,000 for construction. [00:26:29] We do have a community development block grant in the amount of $572,005. [00:26:38] share would be approximately $348,000 of that total cost. [00:26:50] The next one that we have is the City Hall Facility Hardening Renovation. [00:26:55] This is the removal of the existing City Hall exterior doors and the replacement with impact [00:27:04] resistant doors. [00:27:07] As we move further down the years, we would have the renovations of the exterior walkway [00:27:12] that's open now, and then the installation of a standby generator. [00:27:18] That's why you see the outside funding source up to a million. [00:27:22] We have submitted this portion, I believe, for the generator, as well as the next project, [00:27:31] which is the windows for a grant out of that money with Pasco County that they have. [00:27:39] Is that correct, Debbie? [00:27:41] Yes. [00:27:42] So the next project ties in. [00:27:44] Basically, it deals with City Hall as well, and this is a hardening project as well. [00:27:53] This would include the impact windows and the exterior sealing of the brickwork that [00:27:59] we have out here. [00:28:02] And again, we did submit for some grants on that. [00:28:09] The next one is the, you're familiar with our next one, it is the Grand Boulevard Bridge [00:28:15] Replacement. [00:28:16] The county owns the bridge. [00:28:19] We do have a force main as well as a water main that's attached to the bridge, so we [00:28:25] do have some utility work that needs to be done. [00:28:28] We are contributing to the raising of the bridge as well as the top side. [00:28:34] Top side elements would include those multi-use path elements that we've started that would [00:28:41] tie in from the multi-use path that's under construction now, and then the one that will [00:28:48] get on the other side of Grand Boulevard up through Delaware and tie into our existing [00:28:52] one at Madison Street. [00:28:57] And we did get notice from Pasco County that they are going to apply for grant funding [00:29:02] for this project, and so the majority of the funding source would be paid for if they were [00:29:12] to accept it. [00:29:13] I know that there is a lot of money in the federal road and bridge transportation grants, [00:29:18] and this one would qualify for it, so that the money that the city may contribute would [00:29:24] be a minor amount as well as whatever the utility cost estimates would be, and that [00:29:30] would come out of our utility fund. [00:29:32] Whoever gets this job, keep them on task. [00:29:36] People already complained and we haven't even started the job, because Grand's going to [00:29:40] be shut down for who knows how long. [00:29:47] The next project that you have is the Grand Boulevard, and actually it's the last one [00:29:54] that's in this fund. [00:29:55] It's the Grand Boulevard multi-use path. [00:29:57] This is phase two. [00:30:00] This is the one that we are going to pick up north of the bridge and tie into Madison like I just talked about. [00:30:10] The $225,000 is for engineering services. This is going to be for the concept and the design of it. [00:30:17] The thought process is to go ahead and we will be coming to you this year for a task order that's going to include the preliminary design elements of it. [00:30:27] Our thought process is that we get the concept for the whole area, all the way from the bridge all the way up to Madison. [00:30:37] Even if we have to construct in phases, we will have all of our survey work done to where we can go ahead and start making our design. [00:30:45] Our right-of-ways change along that path and so we don't want to sit there and do a conceptual drawing and show them to you [00:30:53] and then we are not able to build those elements in it because we don't have enough right-of-way. [00:30:58] Or we've got so much right-of-way that we don't utilize it to the best of our ability. [00:31:04] So the task order that you will see in the $225,000 is for us being able to get our preliminary design, [00:31:12] all of our survey work and then start that process and look for grants as we are moving forward. [00:31:18] And so that concludes the Capital Improvement Fund 301. [00:31:25] Does anybody have any questions? [00:31:27] Yeah, just a comment, really, since we have development services here. [00:31:33] No? [00:31:34] Oh, yeah. [00:31:35] No? [00:31:36] Who is it? [00:31:37] From a development services standpoint, because the multi-use path is coming from Gulf Drive into Delaware, [00:31:47] which is the beginning of our downtown cars coming in and out, [00:31:56] I would really like to see that if we're putting streetscaping and all that and trying to create this walkability [00:32:02] and this corridor between those properties we've talked about, [00:32:06] that we don't let grass grow under us on looking at maybe putting in a new zoning designation or land use change. [00:32:22] So it seems like the perfect corridor for us to do an arch district or something like that [00:32:28] where these old houses could find some value. [00:32:33] Putting up expensive streetscaping and attracting that traffic back and forth would be the perfect opportunity. [00:32:43] We did an overlay district out in Maine, I think, for allowing certain things, beauty shops and that. [00:32:53] I could really imagine something like an arch district like they have in Bradenton and a lot of other places [00:32:59] where these old houses turn into opportunities for folks to have a little gallery in the front and make it cool. [00:33:10] It's so cool back on Washington and around behind the park where all of that sort of decorative stuff is happening [00:33:16] with the AirBnBs and stuff, but most people coming through town aren't even seeing that part of our city. [00:33:23] Maybe it could stimulate some repurposing of some of those duplexes. [00:33:31] There are some really cool old buildings that are along there, whether it's an antique shop or an art something. [00:33:39] I saw the program from Starkey on the boulevard, the Grand Boulevard, and if we're going to put that money into it, [00:33:50] it would probably be a good chance to incentivize the values of those properties up and down, [00:33:55] and I can't imagine you'd get a whole lot of projection. [00:33:59] Many of them are now rentals, I think. [00:34:02] Anyway, I don't know, maybe off topic, but I couldn't help but say when you start showing those pictures [00:34:15] and someone knows that something might be possible there, it could stop people from buying it for a home to say, [00:34:21] I just bought this and I don't want it. [00:34:26] I don't know. [00:34:28] But that would be my intention to bring that up. [00:34:30] I don't know how you all feel about it. [00:34:34] When's the – so I see construction and engineering. [00:34:38] You mentioned designs happening now in 2025, or when are we getting the initial – [00:34:44] The initial task order will come before you probably within the – the earliest would probably be the July, [00:34:53] the second meeting in July, maybe the first meeting in August, [00:34:57] and that task order is going to have what we would call development design and survey work of that whole corridor, [00:35:06] and then it's going to include conceptual designs, it's going to include a charrette where we get public input, [00:35:12] we get input from you all on what you would like to see there, [00:35:17] and then they'll put together a final – final renderings to kind of let you know after they get all that input, [00:35:25] okay, this is what everybody's come up with and this is what the majority of the people would like to see, [00:35:30] and then in 2025, 26, we'll get another task order from them, and that will be for what we call the design. [00:35:39] Put the drawings on the paper, get it ready for construction, [00:35:43] and so our thought process is while we are doing that, at that time is when we'll start looking at grants as well, [00:35:50] and you'll still – and when we think about it too, we're hoping that everything will tie in together [00:35:56] because we're finishing up the multi-use path that we're doing now. [00:36:01] The county should be coming in within, I think they're talking early wintertime to start the bridge. [00:36:09] We're looking at eight months, nine months of construction. [00:36:14] Winter of? [00:36:15] Twenty-six. [00:36:20] So then that's when it should open up. [00:36:30] That's what we've gotten, so our thought process is while they're doing that, [00:36:37] we're doing our design and looking for the funding sources. [00:36:44] Well, in any case, we know it's coming, and it's – to your point, if the design is there, [00:36:49] nothing stops you from going back from Delaware and working your way back a little bit. [00:36:52] That's right. [00:36:53] Correct. [00:36:54] And that's our plan. [00:36:55] Correct. [00:36:57] Good point. [00:37:07] Anything else for me? [00:37:10] So if you go to page 28, you'll get to the Water and Sewer Construction Fund, Fund 405. [00:37:20] So we'll start off with the fleet and utility purchasing warehouse. [00:37:25] This project is currently underway and slated to be completed in the early next fiscal year, [00:37:32] and the funding sources for that is the engineering and construction expenses [00:37:38] will be met by the water and sewer revenue, stormwater utility funds, and penny per pass go. [00:37:47] Moving on, the potable and reclaimed water sewer extension miscellaneous projects. [00:37:52] These are – like the stormwater utility projects, these will be identified on an as-needed basis, [00:37:58] and these would be to replace lines that are currently in existing failures [00:38:05] or have been identified as insufficient at the time. [00:38:14] So your next item will be the potable and reclaimed water system improvements. [00:38:20] These are miscellaneous projects. [00:38:22] These projects typically involve the replacement of older water mains [00:38:25] in areas undergoing street restorations or projects that we currently have underway. [00:38:30] We use that as an opportunity that once the road is opened up, [00:38:33] we can look at the utilities in place, old cast iron mains or something to that degree, [00:38:38] and go ahead and replace them while they're there, and that would come out of this fund here. [00:38:41] Currently, we're looking at the Grand Boulevard multi-use path phase two [00:38:45] for some of that funding to use this funding for next year. [00:38:54] The next project here would be the smart meter change out program. [00:38:58] So this is an expansion upon the previous program where we replaced the three-quarter inch [00:39:03] and one-inch meters. [00:39:04] Now we're looking at going to our larger meters. [00:39:07] These are the inch-and-a-half and two-inch existing census meters that we'd be replacing, [00:39:11] and these meters were retrofitted a little more than ten years ago [00:39:15] and have met their useful life and are now in need of replacement. [00:39:20] I remember putting them in new. [00:39:24] You don't have to tell anybody. [00:39:26] But are we using vibrations versus the mechanical meters, or have we still got mechanical meters? [00:39:36] These would be those electromagnetic meters. [00:39:39] Right, which is the better product. [00:39:42] The current census meters that we use for the three-quarter inch, [00:39:46] or the current AMI meters that we use for the three-quarter inch project, [00:39:49] that's essentially what we'll be using for this. [00:39:52] So this project, unlike the previous smart meter, [00:39:56] we're not going to be using a contractor for the implementation of that. [00:40:00] We'll simply be purchasing it directly and then using our own crews to go ahead and do the swap-outs. [00:40:07] Is it a ten-year life cycle? [00:40:09] Is that what I'm seeing here, or is the retrofit not considered? [00:40:12] The retrofit would be your ten-year life cycle. [00:40:14] The current meters, or the meters that we're looking to install, will have a 20-year lifespan on that. [00:40:20] Is that when you guys put them in, 20 years ago? [00:40:22] No, ten years ago. [00:40:23] We did the old mechanical. [00:40:25] You opened that door out. [00:40:27] We had the abacus out on that one. [00:40:36] Moving on, we have the sewer main and manhole rehabilitation mining project. [00:40:43] This would include the lining of 10,091 linear feet of 8-inch sewer gravity lines [00:40:50] in the areas of Holiday Garden Estates and South River Road. [00:40:54] Again, this is to update the infrastructure and ensure that it lasts long into the future. [00:41:01] That's where your county money is coming in, too, huh? [00:41:05] County, country? [00:41:06] No, no, no. [00:41:07] This would be the manhole rehabilitation and sewer main lining project there. [00:41:14] It will be on the top of page 29. [00:41:18] What? [00:41:21] I'm up at 30. [00:41:22] 36. [00:41:24] I think so. [00:41:27] Oh, I'm sorry. [00:41:28] I'm looking at the summary sheet. [00:41:29] That's all. [00:41:35] So, on the previous page, on page 28, you'll see the 2022-2023 water utility system improvements. [00:41:44] And this project would include the replacement and installation of new water transmission mains [00:41:50] and distribution mains in areas in the existing system which are beyond the service of a life [00:41:57] and typically prone to failures, ruptures, and other issues. [00:42:02] So, you'd be looking at replacing 7,800 linear feet of 6- to 8-inch diameter mains. [00:42:08] A lot of this would be upgrading that 6-inch main to an 8-inch main to provide service for the area [00:42:14] and for better fire protection. [00:42:16] These area locations include Madison Street from Mass to Pennsylvania, [00:42:22] Florida Avenue from Main Street to Madison Street, Nebraska Avenue from Adams Street to Madison Street, [00:42:29] Missouri Avenue from Lafayette Street to Nebraska Avenue, and Delaware Avenue from Lafayette Street to Grand Boulevard. [00:42:41] And I think you have different page numbers than us. [00:42:44] It's page 35 for the packets we have. [00:42:48] At least that's what I have here. [00:42:50] I'm just looking at the summary. [00:42:51] You're looking at the summary? Okay. [00:42:57] So, again, the sewer main and manhole rehabilitation project, that'll be in the Holiday Garden Estates [00:43:02] at South River Road, and that will be specifically to line those manholes [00:43:07] and the existing gravity mains in that area to ensure the longevity of the system. [00:43:14] Thank you. [00:43:24] The next project here is the oxidation basin conversion out of the Waysward Treatment Plant. [00:43:30] This project was previously discussed, if you remember correctly, from the last council meeting [00:43:34] where we did the utility update from Public Works that I gave. [00:43:40] Essentially, this project will be converting the 1.5 million gallon Shriver continuously sequencing basin [00:43:46] over to an oxidation basin to better match the current system that's in place and to reduce our maintenance. [00:43:53] And it will increase our total nutrient removal process out there as well. [00:44:00] If you remember correctly, the funding for this project will partially be covered by Pasco County. [00:44:09] We're looking at 49-47% rate. [00:44:12] And then we've also requested additional funding through the CDBG-DR grant. [00:44:28] Up next is the sewer utility system improvements. [00:44:32] And this project includes the design and construction of new sanitary sewer force mains [00:44:37] and updating our sanitary sewer system. [00:44:42] Some of that would include the removal and replacement of lift stations there at Maplewood Drive [00:44:47] and the other one on South River Road. [00:44:49] Those are currently under design. [00:44:51] We're looking at starting that project sometime early next year. [00:44:56] And that project will be the construction of a new sewer system. [00:45:00] for that project is 1.5 million. [00:45:09] Is that the new community out there off Little Road that was identified in our [00:45:16] last meeting? That'll be an expense of the development to put their [00:45:22] distribution lines or their collection lines in and distribution lines so we've [00:45:27] got water and sewer services going out to them, correct? That's the service area [00:45:31] expansion? Correct. Is that related to this at all or no? No, this is updating and improving on our current existing system. So what we'd be doing in this one, it would be looking at our [00:45:44] current lift stations and our current force mains and kind of finding, these [00:45:50] were identified by our consultant that in need of upgrades, in need of replacing the pumps, or aligning the system, or just generally speaking [00:45:57] updating the electronics out at those lift stations and making sure that we're [00:46:01] up-to-date on our process. That particular development, they're all handling all of that stuff in-house and the developer is responsible for that [00:46:09] installation. There'll be some cost by the city though. The developer [00:46:16] requested that we take over the utilities and when that happens we [00:46:20] execute a utility service agreement with the developer and that cones them [00:46:28] into where they have to construct their utility system that they put into our [00:46:32] utility standards. And so once it's for us to accept it, so once it's all been [00:46:38] constructed and they get all their permits and close it out, we'll take over [00:46:42] ownership and maintenance but we'll have a system that is constructed according to [00:46:47] our standards. But even though they're in the county, they need to be paying [00:46:51] their impact fees to the city, so generally speaking, impact fees are paid [00:46:57] at the issuance of a permit. Correct. So you'll be getting the impact fees in [00:47:06] ahead of getting the system and connecting it. Correct, and even [00:47:13] though they're outside the city limits, they're within our service area. Or we've [00:47:19] managed to rope it into our service area. Correct, but in this case we weren't able [00:47:24] to because Pasco has lines available as well that could [00:47:30] have serviced them, so that was when we at all, if you remember, we got together [00:47:33] and kind of did our line, which our line was right there at Little Road, and so [00:47:39] they took everything on the other side of Little and we got everything up to [00:47:42] Little Road. Did that move the service line though, because it had been back more [00:47:49] to Osteen or wherever it was? It moved ours, yes. Did we get a new map, [00:47:55] something the attorney would lick his chops over, I'm sure, to get us a new [00:47:59] official map? Yeah, we'll get one. We have one already, already done, so we'll get it to you. [00:48:13] Did I see where you were asking for an expansion of capacity at the plant as [00:48:19] well then, in all of this? So it wouldn't be an expansion of capacity at the plant [00:48:26] necessarily, it would remain at that 7.5 MGD capacity. But didn't I read something just [00:48:34] recently where you were applying to get your, the improvements would allow you to [00:48:39] treat better? There's no capacity discussion going on? No capacity discussion. [00:48:46] All it would do with the, you're thinking of the oxidation basin out there, it would just improve our process. [00:48:53] I'm thinking the permit size of the plant, because it was expanded at the [00:48:58] county's request a long time ago when we were building ours, and so well that's [00:49:02] how it set it at the level that it's at. Correct, and we haven't discussed any [00:49:07] thing as far as expanding the capacity of it. We're looking at it from a [00:49:12] standpoint now of being able to treat the effluent a little bit better to [00:49:18] bring some of those parameters down and stuff so that we can meet the new [00:49:23] permits that are coming out, those requirements, and so being able to [00:49:28] convert this, it helps slow the treatment process down to where we [00:49:33] can meet the standards. [00:49:44] All right, so the next item here is the sewer system extensions miscellaneous [00:49:50] project, and again this is much in the same vein of the portable reclaimed [00:49:57] extension miscellaneous projects. So this would be kind of on an as-needed basis [00:50:03] where line failures are identified, or in an area where we found that there are no [00:50:07] current existing utilities, but a demand is needed, or a demand is there, and we're there to meet it. [00:50:14] And so we allocate each year 120,000 in both engineering and construction, and then that comes out of the water and sewage revenue. [00:50:22] The final project here is the Town and Country Leisure Lane Willow Sewer Extension Project. [00:50:35] This project includes the installation of 3,400 feet of new gravity sewer pipe, manholes, and flow stations for that development to benefit a total of 185 parcels. [00:50:47] And again, this is to improve the resiliency and provide an environmental benefit to an area that is flood-prone and currently has existing septic tanks. [00:50:58] So this project is called out for construction of $3,900,000, and engineering and construction expenses are identified in the annexation and local agreement between Pasco County and the city of New Port Richey, [00:51:15] and we're currently requesting more grant funding through the CDBG. [00:51:23] So that will be it for the Water and Sewer Construction Fund 405. Is there any additional questions at this time? [00:51:30] We had some talk about the reuse of the dyes on the reclaimed, and so when I see you using that typical 25,000 engineering, 100,000 project, 25,000, [00:51:44] I would love to see us do an actual policy study and pick all the areas where you've got lines that would be efficient and lay out some of those projects. [00:51:54] Then we could let the neighborhoods know about it and the ones that sign up first or that want it or, you know, we have the ability to do those projects based on need as well. [00:52:07] So I don't know if you would consider, but versus construction, if you still want to keep that $120,000 figure going, maybe you should up front some of the planning for a master plan on this if you have one already. [00:52:28] We just completed our stormwater master plan for the utility. That included water, sewer, as well as reclaim. [00:52:36] We are working with SWFMUD right now. I actually started this week to where we're supplying them with our layout, our GIS layout of our reclaim system, [00:52:47] so that their staff can review it and then we all can get back together to find out if there's different avenues to be able to start expanding the system. [00:52:58] I think what they've done is they've run into two problems that they've run into. [00:53:04] The first problem is when you want to get rid of reclaim, you can't because it's raining, and that's when you want to get rid of it. [00:53:12] And then the other thing is they had started placing restrictions that were too constraint on the grant funding, and it was a 50% cooperative funding. [00:53:23] And so I think they found out that there weren't a lot of communities that were able to meet those standards to receive the funding sources. [00:53:33] And so I think what we're seeing now is they're reaching out to the different communities to say, [00:53:38] okay, let's see what your system is, what you have, and how can we collaborate together to be able to maybe pick this thing up again and start expanding some of our systems. [00:53:49] So I think you're going to see that number change. [00:53:52] So to that end, yesterday I had a discussion with a lady from Swift Mud who was in Dade City, [00:53:58] who just along with Zephyr Hills now has put in the new smart water for all the new development that has to come in with the low volume sprinklers, [00:54:08] the toilets, and all the things. [00:54:11] And they have a program that she was promoting to me for New Port Richey, asking if she could have them come speak to the city for apartments mostly, [00:54:23] that the amount of money saved in apartments by retrofitting these older community apartments with new toilets and sinks, [00:54:33] and they pay for a good bit of that. [00:54:38] Developers may pay for the other. [00:54:40] But in addition, the older houses that have the old toilets that are flushing more into our sewer than it should be, [00:54:48] they have a program that they will help to underwrite the payment of toilets. [00:54:54] Because I know we always sent those little flushing things you could hook up into the tank. [00:54:59] But actual toilet replacement programs. [00:55:03] We're part of that. [00:55:05] And we do offer that program, toilet rebate program. [00:55:08] The toilet replacement. [00:55:10] So I think having a bit of Tampa Bay water connection, [00:55:19] there should be a good chance for us to maintain our share of the sewage to allow us to grow without, [00:55:26] to your point earlier about keeping our capacity with enough room for development and growth. [00:55:33] Anyway, they're interested, and I think she wanted to talk to you all. [00:55:40] So I told her I'm sure that you would be interested. [00:55:43] Certainly. [00:55:45] The next section of the budget that will be presented is the redevelopment fund projects. [00:55:52] And that is funded through the Community Redevelopment Agency. [00:55:57] This year's budget for fiscal year 25-26 is in the amount of $5,825,000. [00:56:08] The focus of the CRA projects will be to aid in the city's economic growth, [00:56:14] to support members of the business community, [00:56:17] and to create opportunities for reinvestment in the commercial and residential areas of the city. [00:56:26] The first project that is proposed is the 2025 Railroad Square Improvement Project, [00:56:35] which is slated to occur on Nebraska Avenue between Adams Street and Grand Boulevard. [00:56:42] The project involves the conversion of Nebraska Avenue to a one-way orientation. [00:56:53] It provides for embellished pedestrian walkways and includes landscaping, seating areas, [00:57:01] and pedestrian-style lighting, as well as the installation of shade structures which span over the roadway. [00:57:08] Annie Pocket Park will be established adjacent to the Verizon Building, [00:57:16] and Cavalier Square will be improved as part of the project. [00:57:25] The construction for the fiscal year will be $1,240,000. [00:57:36] The next project is the Grand Boulevard Streetscape Enhancements, [00:57:42] and the phase of the project being proposed is between Montana Avenue to Nebraska Avenue. [00:57:50] The proposal specifically calls for an assessment of the condition of the city's streetscape elements in the downtown area, [00:58:00] and the assessment will call out for the maintenance or the replacement of site amenities [00:58:08] to include largely hardscape items and the master planning for the replacement of those amenities [00:58:16] or the maintenance of those amenities as is appropriate. [00:58:21] There is $150,000 in engineering costs programmed for the 2025-2026 fiscal year. [00:58:34] The next project is referred to as the 2024 Sims Landing Improvements Project, [00:58:42] and it relates to an assemblage of property that is owned by the CRA. [00:58:48] It is located on the northeast corner of Main Street and River Road, [00:58:53] and a master planning session will be conducted with the CRA in order to establish a plan [00:59:01] for the proposed reuse of a very valuable assemblage of property. [00:59:07] In addition to the reuse of the property, it is anticipated that two potential boardwalks will emanate from the property [00:59:15] and be constructed underneath the Main Street Bridge on both sides of the bridge, [00:59:27] connecting Sims Landing both to Acorn Street and to Lincoln Street. [00:59:33] There is $75,000 programmed into engineering to cover the cost with the professional planning associated with the project [00:59:46] as well as some of the real estate costs that will be associated with gaining the interest of potential developers in the project. [01:00:00] The next project is the Cody River project development, also a piece of CRA [01:00:08] owned property. This one is located west of US Highway 19 and north of Palm [01:00:14] Avenue. It is commonly referred to as the former Riverside Inn property and it too [01:00:23] will involve a master planning session in order to establish what we expect [01:00:29] will be a mixed-use development which will be housed on the assemblage of [01:00:37] property. At this point the the property is expected to house a potential boat [01:00:49] ramp with docking on the north side of the property since it does exist on the [01:00:56] Cody River. And the appropriation that was established for the planning [01:01:06] associated with the project is $50,000 for the upcoming fiscal year. The next [01:01:15] project is a streetscape improvement for Flormar Terrace and Flormar Terrace is a [01:01:24] roadway that runs parallel to Highway 19 and is just west of US 19 south of [01:01:34] Marine Parkway and north of Flormar Terrace. So it runs right in front of the [01:01:40] Seafire Grill and the former Magnuson Hotel. And the improvements that are [01:01:49] proposed for that property include the establishment of a multi-use path [01:01:54] connecting the existing multi-use path on Marine Parkway as long as well as [01:02:02] some parking, some landscaping, and some decorative lighting, and irrigation, and [01:02:10] landscaping, and the engineering and planning costs associated with that [01:02:18] project is $75,000. The next project relates to bicycle lane improvements [01:02:27] and and the proposed project calls for the creation of a shared use program [01:02:35] within the city's existing roadway. And the purpose of it is to create and [01:02:41] identify a shared use network throughout the city for roadway and [01:02:47] bicycle traffic. We have appropriated or are proposing to appropriate $15,000 for [01:02:56] engineering and $100,000 for construction in the upcoming fiscal year. [01:03:04] The next project is one of which we have had much discussion and it is related to [01:03:13] the former Shortman Education Center. And we have proposed an appropriation of [01:03:21] $1,550,000 for property acquisition and $200,000 for engineering. [01:03:31] As you know, the proposal is in the hands of the school district as the city has [01:03:45] approved a purchase and sale agreement which calls for the purchase of the [01:03:58] property with a payoff by January 30th of 2026. And so we have [01:04:10] planned for the final payment to be included in the 25-26 budget and then we [01:04:18] have planned some planning and engineering money so that we can take a [01:04:24] good look at the building and its components so that we can assess any [01:04:28] conditions that might warrant some address and any performer analysis that [01:04:35] might need to be conducted on the building to determine the market [01:04:40] feasibility of its future. And the next project... [01:04:49] Can I jump in real quick? The $2 million per year for construction in future [01:04:54] years, is that just a plug-in figure or is there any rationale behind that or are [01:04:58] we waiting until engineering and after we've acquired the property? We'll know [01:05:02] better once we have an architect that has developed a program for any [01:05:14] renovation work that might be necessary for the building to accommodate its [01:05:19] future uses, but for now it's a plug figure because we think it's in the [01:05:26] in the neighborhood of, but we'll know much better as we get further along in [01:05:30] the planning. Tagging on to that, I wish that it would not be called the [01:05:37] renovation of the historic building but really site improvements because it [01:05:44] the most valuable land is along the river and cleaning that up, making [01:05:48] access to it, using it. I think the master plan when you come up with it, it's got [01:05:53] to be more than just how much money goes into fixing the old building up or even [01:05:58] at what pace you do that once you secure it versus how that site develops and [01:06:03] there's a lot of off-parcel pieces there. So this is going to be a [01:06:09] big effort of the CRA and so the use of the word plug figure is not good but I'm [01:06:16] happy to see a substantial use of resources for it. I wouldn't, to your [01:06:22] point, I wouldn't want to get too granular about what that would be for [01:06:26] because it could easily be used as a match for something that we might be [01:06:31] able to achieve through working with the Restore Act funds or the BP oil spill [01:06:40] money for example or some of the other projects that might come from it. I do [01:06:45] expect that we will be able to garner some grant funds for a project at this [01:06:54] property and I do want to affirm for you that I'm in agreement with Councilman [01:07:01] Altman as it relates to the property in general. I think one of the real [01:07:09] opportunities on the reuse of the property is the surrounding grounds and [01:07:15] I have indicated that in my narrative for the project but I didn't articulate [01:07:22] that to you this evening but it is very much in my thoughts for the property and [01:07:29] it will be I think a big part of the project as he's indicating. And to the [01:07:34] mayor's point of telling that group to find the money so if they if we have [01:07:38] some money in our budget finding money that has to be matched whatever comes [01:07:44] first and whatever looks best and meets the plan. You have people who want to get on that [01:07:48] committee and go look for money. Yeah. The more the better. Different ideas and [01:07:52] different approaches. Yeah. If I may, if you're ready for me I'll move on to the [01:08:00] next project which is the downtown business wayfinding signs which is a [01:08:05] little bit different than our existing wayfinding signage program. This one is [01:08:11] intended to designate the location of businesses in the downtown area. It'll [01:08:21] get us away from the over usage and improper usage of the A-frame signs that [01:08:29] we are seeing all over downtown and these will be permanent signs that [01:08:34] advertise our retailers and our restauranteurs, not our professional [01:08:41] offices so to speak, and we will have those and we're working now with a [01:08:49] designer and hopefully we'll have something to present to you in the [01:08:54] coming months for your consideration which will give us an opportunity to [01:08:59] really highlight the presence of some of those businesses and give people [01:09:06] appropriate directions on how to find them in our downtown area and we are [01:09:12] asking to continue that process of engineering and planning for that [01:09:20] signage project and some construction and we're asking for three hundred and [01:09:27] fifteen thousand dollars to support those project efforts. May I ask you if [01:09:35] you could do like the kiosks like you would have in the big outlet mall on 56 [01:09:41] if you go up by any entry when you start walking in there because it really is a [01:09:45] street layout is you have the big signs like they used to have in the mall that [01:09:49] says you are here and maybe that kind of wayfinding so we can really give people [01:09:56] that do land a chance to see the businesses and a map or something like [01:10:01] that? We have talked about that. Maybe in railroad square even you know. Yep we've [01:10:09] talked about a couple of different locations for that and in maybe in the [01:10:13] parking structure also for the riders of the dart and and we'll have a whole [01:10:21] program for you to present but I love the kiosk idea as well and I'm gonna [01:10:28] note that. A picture? Okay. [01:10:46] The next project is also related to wayfinding but it is related to our [01:10:54] existing wayfinding sign signage project and it is to remove the signs that need [01:11:04] to be replaced because they're deficient for some reason or they're outdated and [01:11:12] we are asking for an appropriation of $50,000 this year to ensure safety and [01:11:23] to provide current information in the city's wayfinding signage program. So I [01:11:28] had a curiosity with the with the other wayfinding project if we're listing [01:11:34] businesses names is this going to become a reoccurring thing we're having to [01:11:37] update it every year or every couple years as businesses fluctuate or? Yes it [01:11:43] will be updated. Okay. And there'll be a procedure to do that. Okay. And I'll move on [01:11:51] from there to the redevelopment streetscape improvement project which is [01:11:59] an opportunity to update our streetscape in the downtown area and [01:12:10] it's really not limited. This is really a continuation of a previously [01:12:16] approved activity and it includes infrastructure, it includes hardscape, it [01:12:26] includes landscaping as well as stormwater improvements and public art [01:12:35] as eligible expenditures within this funding category for largely the [01:12:44] downtown area but it could be anywhere within the CRA. And Pete I am still on [01:12:51] the West Pasco Press Red Cross building and I am hopeful to acquire it for the [01:13:03] discount price of $25,000 and I should have a good update for you by the end of [01:13:12] the week I'm told so hopefully I'll have some good information to pass on to you [01:13:18] on the building at 5744 Missouri Avenue. And the next project also related to [01:13:30] property acquisition is an annual program and it is a continuation of a [01:13:37] previously approved activity. I am asking for an appropriation in the amount of [01:13:42] $1,500,000 to continue the acquisition and assemblage of properties [01:13:49] determined to be of interest to the Community Redevelopment Agency. There [01:13:53] aren't any specific properties of interest at this time but it's just [01:13:58] prudent to have a funding source available should something become [01:14:02] available that is consistent with a goal or project that is of interest to [01:14:15] the group. And the next project is streetscape improvements on US Highway [01:14:22] 19 specifically related to the median and the project is both an assessment of [01:14:30] the maintenance items on US Highway 19 spanning within the city's boundaries [01:14:39] which are basically the Cody River Bridge to Trouble Creek Road. It'll [01:14:45] involve the plantings, the trees, peanut grass, and any other streetscape elements [01:14:51] that exist within the medians on Highway 19 and then the implementation... [01:15:00] of any necessary improvements of median materials that are determined to be [01:15:07] substandard and we are asking for a hundred thousand dollar appropriation. [01:15:13] The final project that is being proposed this year in this budget is the Town and [01:15:21] Country Villas Redevelopment Project and the project is being recommended for [01:15:30] funding in the amount of two hundred and fifty thousand dollars to cover [01:15:33] engineering and planning expenses and the improvements are paving and other [01:15:42] hardscape, on-street parking, curbing, sidewalks and trails, landscaping and [01:15:49] irrigation, lighting, street furniture and the establishment of a neighborhood [01:15:57] park. And I'm prepared to respond to any questions that you may have in [01:16:04] relationship to this budget. And I'm going to do the final project being [01:16:12] prompted by Councilman Butler, thank you, which is the Marine Parkway Pedestrian [01:16:17] Bridge Project, which calls for the establishment of an overhead bridge [01:16:25] spanning over US Highway 19 at Marine Parkway. I would like to appropriate [01:16:31] thirty thousand dollars for continued planning efforts so that we can [01:16:36] determine largely the acquisition that needs to occur to meet grade requirements [01:16:46] at Marine Parkway to meet the existing path. I'm still against that. I'm still [01:16:57] against that. Okay. People have vehicles nowadays, they're going to have [01:17:04] golf carts, they're going to have anything but the amount of people that will walk [01:17:08] over that bridge or ride their bicycle and be in their low mountain. Well if you look at the [01:17:14] coast-to-coast trail from Titusville to the coast, it's named that and it is a [01:17:19] recreational path that could connect us to Tarpon Springs and beyond. [01:17:25] So, anyway, thank you. And there's not much for us to debate other than the [01:17:32] planning in the current year, but so that'll be a story for another time. [01:17:38] Can I go back to the town and country village? Absolutely. I'd like to talk [01:17:43] about the Marine Parkway bridge. So the construction costs for that are going to [01:17:51] be just just outrageous still, and we had debate today in NPO about the cost [01:17:57] versus the benefit. I still want to look at the whole mid-span crossings, [01:18:05] mid-block crossings, in between Florimar and Marine Parkway to see if it [01:18:13] might be a better suit. I'm assuming that it would be cheaper, but I'd like to [01:18:18] pursue that at least to get an idea of the cost differences and whether it's [01:18:23] more feasible or not. We're roaching, you know, 15 million dollars for a bridge, you [01:18:28] know, it's even the county is starting to back off of them. I think the mid-block... [01:18:33] ...backing off for a while, except for her own one there by Starkey Boulevard. [01:18:38] Right, yeah. If she wants that one. Well, she can get other people to pay for it, then, you know, of [01:18:43] course, why not? Mid-block crossing is a good idea, and there might be more than [01:18:50] one location in the city where it makes sense, and FDOT has offered to come to [01:18:58] the City Council and to talk about that, and we should make arrangements with [01:19:05] District 7 for them to do so and get a pulse of the taste of City Council for [01:19:11] mid-block crossing. I don't know that we would want that to be the link, though, [01:19:21] something as significant as a trail crossing. I think it would have to be [01:19:28] either a surface crossing at Marine Parkway or an overhead bridge, one or the [01:19:38] other, and you collectively would need to decide which you prefer. Right, I mean, [01:19:50] mid-block, it would have to be where it could tie into the trail. I mean, they're [01:19:55] proposing, you know, different locations that have nothing to do with the trail. [01:19:59] Right. So, specifically, that's what I'm talking about, but if that ends up being [01:20:04] an area where it makes sense and they're helping with it anyways, then, you know, [01:20:09] why not? Well, I think one of the things we'd have to find out, too, is if in the [01:20:13] mid-block crosswalks, if DOT would allow you to have a permit that would allow [01:20:18] golf cart crossings at those locations. So we'd have to find that out, but what [01:20:23] we could do is we ended up doing a study about three years ago, I think, so [01:20:28] the numbers aren't that far off, that gave you all the options of the overhead, [01:20:34] the one that was just an overhead for pedestrians, there was [01:20:39] another cost for golf carts and pedestrians, and then there was that [01:20:45] option that had a cost for a surface crossing with the golf carts. We could [01:20:50] look that up and get it over to you on a Friday report or something to where you [01:20:55] can look at that again, and some of you may not have seen it, and for the ones [01:20:59] that remember it, it would just refresh your memory, but that gave you dollar [01:21:03] figures that you could, you know, it may be more now, but you can get a [01:21:08] understanding of what you would be looking at. Yeah, my thoughts were without [01:21:13] the golf cart crossing for the bridge, but even, you'd have to have [01:21:20] two locations, I'm at the key to one in Marine Parkway, and then maybe [01:21:24] another one that makes more sense, I don't know, for the bicycles and [01:21:28] pedestrians, I'm not sure. So, Councilman, on that topic, when we look at the amount [01:21:33] of money we're putting into our bicycle trail, our Grand Boulevard trail, our [01:21:38] coming into downtown, and now with the Swetman being a potential spot for Blue [01:21:43] Walk, Blue Ways, I think it really is a recreational trail. So, to the Mayor's [01:21:48] comment, I agree, there ain't nobody gonna walk across right now or ride their [01:21:52] bicycle, and that's the hard part, is being able to envision, are we going to [01:21:57] be part of what is this popular multi-crossing bicycle trail in Pinellas [01:22:03] County that will draw those people into our town? So, I don't disagree with you, [01:22:08] it doesn't make sense if you look at our local traffic, but when we finish doing [01:22:13] the corner of 19 at the river, at the hotel we just bought, and we've got all [01:22:21] of the city residents that live, that pay taxes to ours, including the city manager [01:22:26] along that trail there, the ultimate opportunity for this multimodal to [01:22:34] happen. It's not happening now, but I would just add up all the money we're [01:22:39] intending for a bicycle pass and say, if we're not going to get in the bicycle [01:22:43] business, you know, that was a big draw in Dunedin, that was part of what [01:22:49] stimulated that economy. So, you know, with, you know, nine million dollars, ten million [01:22:56] dollars a year coming in in the redevelopment funds, what's missing, [01:22:59] paging back one in the acquisition side, is how many millions of dollars are we [01:23:05] going to collect back in our public-private partnerships for what is [01:23:08] now six and five, eleven million dollars of real estate that we're holding, of [01:23:15] which probably a good two-thirds of that is for repurposing and getting [01:23:22] development on it. So, it's premature, I would only ask, let's not say yes or [01:23:29] no, but let's, like you say, continue to look at it. But I've heard the arguments [01:23:34] being made by Catherine Starkey, and I just, I can't imagine not wanting to get [01:23:39] a coast-to-coast trail that goes right to the Gulf, whether it's mid-block or not. [01:23:45] So, I think, hopefully we can see that day. We've planned for it, we've [01:23:50] built already for it. Yeah, so if you just keep it in there and we'll [01:23:55] wait till the right people come around to support it. And we did program revenue [01:24:00] in the budget that we anticipate for the sale of property. We were very [01:24:07] conservative, though, with that number, but we'll share that with you as we get [01:24:12] further along in the budget presentation. What I wanted to ask was that we take [01:24:18] the Town and Country Villas Redevelopment Project, the $250,000 that you have in [01:24:22] there, and we swap it with the Alleyway Project, which you have in transportation. [01:24:28] Because our transportation dollars from our assessments have been pledged to be [01:24:34] used for streets, and we've had that discussion. So I'm going to, I'm going to [01:24:39] give to your argument not to use engineering or other fees for it, because [01:24:46] you've made that clear every time you've spoken about the use of those [01:24:49] assessments, that we have to have other dollars to design and plan. But the [01:24:55] alleyways, I think, are a big part of our downtown and the interaction of the [01:25:00] alleyways. I would love to see alleyways shift into the CRA, and the reason I'd [01:25:05] like to move Town and Country Villas out is because our general fund is going to [01:25:11] be sucking wind in the next time ahead. So if we can enhance development there, [01:25:16] that'll be on the tax roll for us to use for our police and fire operations. [01:25:22] Now the problem is we don't get double, you know, we don't get to double our [01:25:27] money, but I have to ask this construction of three million dollars in [01:25:32] future years for the streets and the street lighting, we could use our street [01:25:38] money for our DOT gas money for the street part of it, and I'm imagining that [01:25:45] we're going to have a developer or something, this land is not... how many [01:25:49] owners are there of all the property we envision turning this into a little [01:25:53] South Beach neighborhood? How many owners of property? Yeah, do we know the developer that would like to [01:26:01] develop the streetscape? So when you use money in the CRA to build streetscape [01:26:09] for a property that isn't contributing at all to the CRA yet, I would like to [01:26:15] see us entice a developer and offer those stormwater street improvements. Yes. [01:26:23] And try to get someone to help pay for that, because if somebody wants to design [01:26:28] a community and build these little coastal cottages or whatever. Yes, I have [01:26:35] had conversations with a couple of developers that are interested, but [01:26:39] nothing to the point where we have solidified anything that I can present [01:26:47] to you, no. Well they're kind of the same values, if you look at them out, a couple [01:26:52] hundred thousand dollars over time a year, and I'm just afraid to continue to [01:26:59] do the cost of a expansion of our CRA district, all the documentation of it, we [01:27:06] don't know where the legislature is going with it to begin with by the time we get it all [01:27:10] figured out. It's a great plan, I don't want to slow it down, but I think the [01:27:17] alleys are also needed and those are communities that have been paying the [01:27:21] taxes into the CRA for a long time. They are. Just something to consider and [01:27:26] what the rest of us can talk about. I'd like to go back to the redevelopment of [01:27:35] Grand Boulevard from the bridge up. I just don't really want little stop [01:27:40] signs on every corner for the people that are on the sidewalk, because [01:27:46] people are stopping on Madison right now in their cars because they see little [01:27:51] stop signs. So I mean, you're talking about aesthetics, these stop signs that people come out of Grand. [01:27:59] One's on Madison all the time, I travel it regularly, there's always [01:28:05] somebody stopping, those little signs, and I just don't want that to happen to Grand. [01:28:10] I got to reevaluate whether we need them on Madison. [01:28:18] Yeah, where does, maybe not here, but just to continue the conversation being had by [01:28:29] Councilman Altman, maybe it's for when we get to the budget side, where do [01:28:35] alleyways fit into the budget? Where do you currently have them? They're in here? [01:28:43] I didn't see them in here. I wasn't meant to be a segue. The final funding [01:29:00] source that we have is the Street Improvement Fund, Cal 701. The first [01:29:05] project that we have for you is traffic sign upgrades. These are those decorative [01:29:09] posts and the antique looking ones that you see downtown and around the Overlay [01:29:15] District, Palm District. We also buy these things direct out of this fund to [01:29:20] where when we do some of our road improvements and multi-use pass [01:29:24] extensions and stuff like that, our guys will follow up with the upgrades of [01:29:28] those signs out of this account. We have $50,000 in there. The next one we [01:29:36] have is the Neighborhood Improvement Project. This area is proposed to be [01:29:42] South River Road, other side of Main Street, up to South Boulevard. This [01:29:49] would be in conjunction with the inundation project as we would be [01:29:55] putting storm system down into that road. Then we would come in and [01:30:00] and do this project to where we could improve that area as well. [01:30:04] We've got $150,000 for next year to start the design. [01:30:11] The LED crosswalk signage and lighting, this is, again, an annual program that we started years ago [01:30:19] that we have funds allocated and we can get our LED crosswalk systems installed. [01:30:26] Update on the one at Main Street in Van Buren. [01:30:30] We just finished having a discussion with DOT. [01:30:33] They have the paperwork and they're starting on the process of it. [01:30:38] We've been ready. [01:30:39] We had all of our documentation. [01:30:41] We submitted it as soon as we brought it to you all, but we've had to wait on DOT, [01:30:47] and they've kind of taken their time, but it looks like we're starting to move now on that one. [01:30:53] I will say when I saw it go up, I was very anxious, very excited, and then the LEDs never came. [01:30:59] I was like, well, at least now they know to cross there. [01:31:03] The next project we have is a roadway and parking lot striping project. [01:31:08] This is an annual program that we have as well. [01:31:12] We're proposing to go ahead and do improvements to the Adams Street [01:31:17] and the Florida Avenue parking lot that we have. [01:31:20] It's that small parking lot behind the arcade, and there are 50,000 that's allocated. [01:31:25] And our next project that we have is the alley improvements. [01:31:33] We have 20,000 in engineering and 100,000 allocated. [01:31:38] To give you an update on that, we have looked at the final draft that the engineers sent over to us for an alleyway master plan. [01:31:49] This master plan is going to include, obviously, the city council. [01:31:54] It's going to have public input. [01:31:57] We know that we have different characteristics of alleys depending on what area you're at. [01:32:01] A lot of the alleys that are around the downtown area have asphalt, and they're used for traveling back and forth. [01:32:07] There's other ones that are over around Illinois and stuff that have a lot of vegetation and stuff like that, [01:32:16] and people have expressed that they want to have a different type of atmosphere, and they don't want asphalt. [01:32:23] So this master plan that we're going to approach is going to take all of the input, all of the consideration that we have, [01:32:32] come to the council, and then council will take and tell us what you want, what you don't want, [01:32:39] and that's the document that we're going to proceed with when we talk about annual improvements. [01:32:45] We've completed our survey work. [01:32:47] All the survey work on all the alleys is completed. [01:32:50] We've taken and did our first round of clearings. [01:32:54] Although it doesn't look like it, it was minimal, 20-foot wide. [01:32:59] Let's do a straight cut as best we could. [01:33:02] There are some alleys that we're going to have to discuss whether or not you want to vacate them, whether you want to keep them. [01:33:09] Some of them are not passable. [01:33:11] Some of them, I think there's one over by Congress just as an example that is basically a retention pond, the alleys right there. [01:33:19] We have one by the hospital that has a lift station on one side and a parking lot on the other side. [01:33:24] They're non-accessible. [01:33:26] So those are some of the decisions that you all are going to have to make, [01:33:29] and our master plan should give everybody all the answers that they need, [01:33:33] and then we can start moving forward with some construction, concrete work. [01:33:38] Are we having some neighbors complain because they think it's their property now? [01:33:43] We get those complaints, yes. [01:33:47] How are we dealing with it at this point? [01:33:50] We went ahead and surveyed it, right, and found out it's ours. [01:33:53] Right. [01:33:54] We have one outstanding issue that's left to be resolved. [01:33:59] I can guess who it is, too. [01:34:03] To that comment, could I ask if we could put this item on a CRA agenda [01:34:10] so we can discuss perhaps the CRA taking over the alleyway project concepts, [01:34:17] and we can run those planning issues and those projects through the CRA [01:34:23] instead of having them cross our public works transportation. [01:34:30] I really think it's time for us to look at that as an enhancement. [01:34:36] There was an argument that there should be an assessment [01:34:38] because the benefit was going to the people who live there. [01:34:43] The CRA is for the specific purpose of improving it, [01:34:46] and once we do those initial ones close in and we start getting out into town, [01:34:51] then we really started to use our CRA dollars in the neighborhoods, [01:34:56] and it could help people to understand that we're doing something for them. [01:35:03] To tie into that, I think what's really good about having the master plan is [01:35:06] once we complete that master plan, [01:35:09] we can also bring back for you the alley management plan that we had brought to you years back [01:35:16] that actually gave you the policies and the standard operating procedures [01:35:21] and the details of how to get those different improvements done to where we can all look at it [01:35:27] and it's everything across the board, and it explains how you approach it, [01:35:32] and we could update it and include anything that you want or alter it, [01:35:35] but it's in a good enough form where you could manipulate it [01:35:40] and put it to wherever you all would want. [01:35:43] With the CRA built, the CRA can maintain it, [01:35:46] and so there again, keeping our maintenance costs down for all of the road improvements [01:35:53] and the intersection improvements and the crossings and all the other things that we have going, [01:35:57] I think it's a good opportunity to shift some of that burden to an entity that can hold it [01:36:03] until we can release those funds back to the general fund. [01:36:08] The next project that we have is the West and East Grand Neighborhood sidewalk improvement. [01:36:15] We have $200,000 for engineering and then $1.4 million in next year's budget [01:36:26] and then $400,000 the following year. [01:36:29] This is partially funded through the CDBG grant fundings. [01:36:35] The development block grant, out of that, $1.4 would pay approximately $974,000, [01:36:43] and then the city would be responsible for approximately $226,000. [01:36:49] This project is 100% designed. [01:36:54] We do have the paperwork that we're finishing up with the grant people, [01:37:01] and then we can get this thing out to bid and get it started. [01:37:04] So this is really exciting here. [01:37:08] The next project that we have is the neighborhood sidewalk improvements, [01:37:16] and this is an annual dollar amount that we put in. [01:37:19] We have $25,000 for engineering and then $200,000 for construction. [01:37:26] What we end up doing is when we start seeing some gaps and stuff like that, [01:37:30] we'll use some of this funding here to try to go ahead and take care of those items as soon as we can. [01:37:36] A lot of times you'll see these funds submitted to you on a change order [01:37:41] that we add to one of our street projects or another sidewalk project [01:37:45] to where we can get that pricing and get this thing expedited. [01:37:50] And so what we're planning on doing this year is the completion of the Heights neighborhood [01:37:56] as well as some infilling in the North Grand neighborhood. [01:38:00] The next project that we have is the 23-24 Street improvement project. [01:38:06] That is engineering is at $20,000 and construction is at $500,000. [01:38:12] This is the project that you see underway now, [01:38:18] and this is all up around the downtown area that you're seeing just east of Madison Street. [01:38:28] And then up along Grand Boulevard. [01:38:31] The next one that we have is the 24-25 Street improvement project. [01:38:38] We have $40,000 in engineering and $1.7 million in construction. [01:38:44] This area is the Big Bend neighborhood that's up there, [01:38:49] all the streets that are off of Grand Boulevard north of Sims. [01:38:56] This is the area that we would be approaching next. [01:39:01] This is a housekeeping note. [01:39:02] I know it gets presented to us and it's in the 20-year plan, [01:39:05] but do you guys plan on slowing the roads? [01:39:07] You did it for 23-24, but the roads aren't listed in 24-25. [01:39:18] We'll add that. [01:39:21] This is just our first presentation, but we'll add it. [01:39:29] We want to thank you for giving this to us. [01:39:32] Wait, I can't believe it. [01:39:33] This is June. [01:39:41] Thank you. [01:39:46] Yeah, just on Madison. [01:39:48] When you're in the streets, I know there was some, I thought, [01:39:55] potential for us to look at Madison. [01:39:59] And in particular, when I see the nice curbs they put on Grand Boulevard, [01:40:03] although they're a little high, I don't know, [01:40:05] is there more asphalt coming down on them or are they going to stay at that level? [01:40:09] Yeah, that's like bumper cars there. [01:40:13] They'll be black with tire marks soon enough. [01:40:17] But it's nice that they're there. [01:40:20] On Madison, coming from the river to the high school to Cecilia [01:40:27] and to the end of the city limits, [01:40:29] if you look at the right-of-way between the sidewalks and to the curb [01:40:36] and the grass growing all over it and it's in the totally, you know, [01:40:41] this is a major road people are coming in on now. [01:40:44] And we did Madison by the hospital, and I'm not asking for a streetscape, [01:40:50] but we've got to have some answer to allowing the disrepair of that corridor. [01:41:02] So if it's the responsibility of the people that live there to maintain, [01:41:08] I don't know that I ever got the legal answer to it, [01:41:11] then something has to be done about it. [01:41:13] Because just drive down and look at it. [01:41:15] It looks like crap. [01:41:16] And we've got a brand-new high school. [01:41:20] And is that something we should be taking on? [01:41:26] We'll look at it. [01:41:27] Thank you. [01:41:28] And I'll get back with you. [01:41:29] And is there something we can think about at Cecilia [01:41:33] where that light is restricting everybody? [01:41:35] Because one person wants to make a turn when everybody's coming home [01:41:38] and you'll never get through it and you're back in the crowd. [01:41:41] It would be great if the county would agree to do, I hate to say a roundabout, [01:41:47] but they're all trot about those things. [01:41:50] You'd have to take a couple houses out. [01:41:52] Oh, no, a turn lane would be fine. [01:41:54] Well, get a turn lane in. [01:41:57] Narrow the road a little bit. [01:41:59] Maybe it's another road narrow issue. [01:42:02] But somebody needs to look at Madison. [01:42:04] Marine Parkway and Grand. [01:42:06] Yeah. [01:42:07] I think it's going to become an issue everybody's going to be yelling at [01:42:11] when they start building that bridge. [01:42:15] And when the new developer comes in, [01:42:19] which causes me to suggest that we should be having a discussion [01:42:23] about imposing transportation impact fees [01:42:29] and do an agreement with Pasco County. [01:42:32] They don't help us because we aren't doing it. [01:42:35] Other cities collect the transportation impact fee [01:42:38] and have an agreement with the county [01:42:41] that the county will allow the city to collect the impact fees [01:42:45] and use their zone to improve county roads within the area. [01:42:52] So ever since John Gallagher was mad at us [01:42:54] for not having a transportation impact fee, [01:42:56] which we did for redevelopment purposes, [01:43:00] and we don't grow that much in population. [01:43:03] But as these new communities come in, [01:43:06] to the strategy you're using now with Aqua Harbor, [01:43:12] if we have funds in the CRA, [01:43:15] the CRA can pay the transportation impact fees for the developer [01:43:18] if we have something we'd like to be built there. [01:43:21] And we can have a fund that can grow to do some of these things [01:43:25] and a seat at the table with the county to say, [01:43:28] we've got to find a way to sit down with them [01:43:31] and have them improve these corridors. [01:43:34] Massachusetts, Madison. [01:43:37] And for us it wouldn't be anything on the tax roll for the new residents [01:43:42] because it's for the new development when it comes in. [01:43:46] And we are trying to entice development by not having them. [01:43:51] But now that the CRA has got, you know, pushing 9, 10 million, [01:43:57] we could begin to probably start putting the brakes on, [01:44:03] especially if we turn some of these real estate properties over [01:44:07] and we start seeing some revenue come in, [01:44:09] we'll have money to be able to use those enhancement dollars to do those things. [01:44:15] So it might not be something, [01:44:18] not something we'll put into place immediately, [01:44:21] but if we talk to them about it and put it into place for the new year, [01:44:25] the other thing it will do is it will stimulate these guys [01:44:28] that are sitting on the back burner waiting to decide [01:44:31] when they want to start their project. [01:44:33] Because once somebody knows a new impact fee is coming, [01:44:36] that's when they belly up to the bar and start their project. [01:44:40] Not for nothing, but, you know, that's a thought. [01:44:44] The last project that we have in this funding source is the 2526 Street Improvement Project, [01:44:50] and it's part of the pavement management plan. [01:44:53] You'll see that there isn't any streets and neighborhood areas listed in this. [01:45:00] with the engineer and with our staff and review the areas that we haven't completed yet and [01:45:07] then start rating those areas and that's how we'll choose it. That was the last project [01:45:15] in this account. Anything else? No, just want to thank Robert and Colin and [01:45:22] Crystal of course for all of their diligence and helping me put this together for you this [01:45:27] evening. Thank you.

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3. 3Adjournment