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   Strategic Plan Update

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   Council reviewed strategic plan objectives and result measures, focusing on advancing emerging technologies (IT, cybersecurity, GIS, website redesign with Granicus, security cameras), streamlining permit/development processes, and emergency preparedness/resiliency. Discussion included camera coverage at city parks, the firefighter recruitment shortage and wage study, FEMA repetitive loss property programs, and progress toward CRS and Storm Ready designations.

   • direction:Staff to evaluate need for security cameras at Francis Park and Meadows Dog Park before school starts in mid-August. (none)
   • direction:Staff to diversify color coding on strategic plan to include an 'ongoing' status indicator. (none)

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   [00:00:18] Well, it's all your show. [00:00:20] Okay, then I'll go ahead and get permission, Mr. Mayor. [00:00:23] The purpose of today's meeting is to complete our review of the strategic plan objectives and our result measures as well. [00:00:37] As a reminder to you, the strategic plan process is a vital measure to us in terms of leading our budgeting process. [00:00:49] So that we can make sure that the resources of the city are dedicated for purposes to support your goals. [00:01:01] And if Mike Miller could join me up here, we're going to talk a little bit about advancing emerging technologies. [00:01:10] And I'll give you a little bit of a status report. [00:01:15] And when you ask me questions I can't answer, I'm going to defer them to Mike, because he is the one that handles... [00:01:25] I'll defer my questions to Mattel. [00:01:28] A lot of... [00:01:29] Somebody young. [00:01:31] A lot of the IT or technology solutions, as they like to refer to it, work in the city. [00:01:45] One of the goals that was identified as significant and that we continue to work on is to remain current with rapidly changing technologies. [00:01:59] And the action items that are currently being implemented are noted in yellow. [00:02:09] Those that have been accomplished are in green. [00:02:13] We have implemented a dedicated fiber network between city facilities. [00:02:18] We continue to increase cybersecurity through education, training, and process controls. [00:02:25] We have created a cybersecurity policy to promote standards and elevated backup and disaster recovery services for emergencies. [00:02:35] We want to elevate the community engagement to improve customer experience by providing quality engagement tools for communications. [00:02:46] That's something that will occur with the launching of the city's new website. [00:02:53] And Mike, do you want to give us a little update on that website? [00:02:56] Sure. [00:02:57] So we are... [00:02:58] Launch. [00:02:59] Sure. [00:03:00] We're working with Granicus to update the city's website. [00:03:03] It's currently a... [00:03:04] You know, there's one currently in place, but we're moving to a much better structured one. [00:03:10] We are looking to have that online roughly late September, mid-October, somewhere in that range. [00:03:18] We're working currently with them to expand some services. [00:03:22] We're going to have some open forms on there that the citizens can fill out to get additional help with various things. [00:03:31] We're going to explore some different options with the departments to see who can best utilize those open forms. [00:03:40] Just a question here. [00:03:42] I don't know if yours are the same as mine, but it looked like it was yellow and then turned green. [00:03:46] But we discussed, you know, last time when we were going on this, we discussed that there was ones that are ongoing forever. [00:03:52] And it just seems like to me that, you know, education training and process controls would be one of those that would just continue. [00:03:59] So that's why I say with the yellow tint at the back and the green on the top, at least on my sheet, you know. [00:04:04] It just is that, you know, our new color for things that are in always going to be... [00:04:08] Oh, I see what you're saying about the two different greens at the top. [00:04:10] Yeah, yeah. [00:04:11] I was under the impression that that conversation was for next year to maybe add a purple color or some other... [00:04:16] That's a good idea. [00:04:17] Yeah. [00:04:18] Okay. [00:04:19] So that wasn't intended to be different colors. [00:04:20] No. [00:04:21] That's a printing thing. [00:04:24] Well, I'm just saying because it is a type of one where it would be continued forever. [00:04:28] We'll diversify the code. [00:04:30] Yeah, yeah. [00:04:32] So that we do include something that's ongoing. [00:04:35] Yeah, especially with IT. [00:04:37] It's going to be always ongoing. [00:04:39] Yes, it is. [00:04:42] We are working on increasing the city's GIS capability to support services. [00:04:47] That, too, will be ongoing. [00:04:50] Provide interactive maps for citizens. [00:04:53] These are the layers that we'll have on our GIS. [00:04:58] Zoning, flood, debris pickup and development, meaning zoning, and other types of development-related details that people will want to gain access to. [00:05:12] We'll be expanding our city services that can be accessed online. [00:05:18] Advancing solutions based on department needs and city objectives. [00:05:23] Expanding the existing technologies as new features become available. [00:05:28] Provide resources, allowing technology solutions staff terrain up-to-date with new technologies. [00:05:36] We do and we will continue to perform annual third-party security testing on our resources to increase cybersecurity. [00:05:48] We have created and implemented an incident response plan with annual testing. [00:05:57] So we're almost all the way green there. [00:06:01] Process improvement to utilize Tyler ERP software solutions, which will help us collect and provide analytics for staff. [00:06:12] And we haven't been collecting data utilizing internal and external tools in all departments. [00:06:20] We're going to start doing that. [00:06:22] And so we'll have a better report for you next year on that. [00:06:25] We have implemented door access controls and building security camera upgrades and expansions. [00:06:32] We are continuing to improve park security cameras and expansion and integrating access control systems to existing software to effectively manage entry. [00:06:45] Are there any questions for Mike or I on that strategy? [00:06:50] I just have to real quick. [00:06:52] The where did it go? [00:06:57] The providing interactive maps for citizens such as zoning flood. [00:07:02] Do you guys have a timeline on that one? [00:07:04] We do. [00:07:05] It's looking like Chris will have that ready for us to test probably in the next three weeks or so. [00:07:12] And then we're going to try to break it and make sure it's ready for. [00:07:21] And then it'll be ready for the public use. [00:07:23] Hopefully we will probably integrate it with the new website. [00:07:26] So it all rolls out at one time. [00:07:29] I thought the door accesses was a great idea and great for security. [00:07:34] Actually, sorry, two more questions. [00:07:35] The analytics, is that, I didn't fully understand that. [00:07:38] For the process improvement to utilize our Tyler ERP software and provide analytics to staff, is that like employee analytics or what is it? [00:07:47] We are going through with Tyler to see the modules that we already have purchased and make sure that we're using them to their best effectiveness. [00:07:56] And then that will give us better data, you know, moving forward because we're using already purchased software instead of trying to go out and find additional unnecessary expenditure software. [00:08:09] And then the analytics will come with, honestly, the analytics will come probably next year when we more fully utilize all that stuff as the departments figure out exactly their use case for the analytics. [00:08:24] Tyler's been with us a few years now. [00:08:26] If you call, they're right there. [00:08:28] Yes, sir, especially since we went over to the more cloud-based SAS version. [00:08:32] They're probably that same day for a good amount of the problems. [00:08:38] And then they work with us on anything longer than that. [00:08:41] Just sometimes when you've been with a company for a long time, they kind of slide you to the side because you're a regular customer. [00:08:46] Sure. [00:08:48] And the final one for me was with the building and security camera upgrades. [00:08:53] I'll probably send an email for this, but do we know which ones were expanded? [00:08:57] And my specific question is the rec center. [00:09:00] I know there were some blind spots there and whether those have been expanded to there yet or if that's still in the works. [00:09:06] They have. [00:09:07] We're probably about 75% done with all of the cameras. [00:09:11] There were some that needed to be upgraded because they didn't mesh with our actual NVR, the actual recording system, as well, [00:09:19] and would cause drops and time issues. [00:09:22] But we got those sorted out. [00:09:24] Like I said, in the budget upcoming is the final push to finish all that up and possibly even some expansion. [00:09:32] And we actually moved some around at Sims Park to give us better coverage. [00:09:39] And upgraded to different cameras, too. [00:09:41] So we mainly did upgrades? [00:09:43] We didn't do expansion? [00:09:44] Because when I hear expansion, I'm thinking like buying new cameras to put up. [00:09:48] We did expand. [00:09:49] Oh, okay. [00:09:50] Yeah, we did expand at the rec center, and I do think we added five cameras at Sims Park, somewhere in that range, [00:09:56] and then we did position some differently. [00:09:59] There was a lot of overlap that was unnecessary, so we were able to move some around that actually gave us a clearer view of the different spots. [00:10:07] We got them out at the new dog park, too. [00:10:11] We do not currently. [00:10:12] Not currently. [00:10:13] It just seems to me that's more of an isolated area where we should, especially come dark time, you know, get close to dark. [00:10:21] There are some technological hills to overcome with it there, too, [00:10:26] because of kind of where it is and how everything's laid out. [00:10:31] But it's not insurmountable. [00:10:33] And we do have a plan that we're reviewing to install them there. [00:10:37] It's just an isolated situation as the evening goes on. [00:10:43] What about Grand Boulevard Park? [00:10:49] I don't think we have cameras there. [00:10:50] No. [00:10:51] We do not. [00:10:52] Any plans to put one or two there? [00:10:56] I'm not aware of any current plan. [00:10:58] We do not have any current plans to establish cameras there. [00:11:01] We haven't had any problems there that we're aware of, or at least a pattern that gives us cause to establish cameras. [00:11:11] But if you're telling us that there is, we can keep a closer look at it. [00:11:16] What about Francis Park? [00:11:18] I think it would be a good idea. [00:11:20] Where am I? [00:11:21] Francis Park. [00:11:24] To the mayor's point where Francis and Grand, I know for Grand with the new, excuse me, not Grand, the Meadows Dog Park, [00:11:33] I know with the new basketball courts that went up is becoming a hot spot for some of our kids. [00:11:38] And I don't know if it would be advantageous for maybe a patrol officer to go out there [00:11:41] and just once in a while see how many kids are using it going into this next school year. [00:11:46] God forbid there's any school fights that take place off campus, because I know Francis has been a hot spot in the past. [00:11:53] But if it's become to the point where they move over to the Meadows Dog Park and there's no cameras there, that could become a problem. [00:12:00] And to go along where I was going to go with Francis Park, [00:12:04] you really have until the middle of August to see what you think you need there, because school doesn't start until then. [00:12:09] Sure. [00:12:19] Okay. [00:12:21] Go ahead. [00:12:27] The next strategy deals principally with the development area of the city. [00:12:34] And the goals that have been advanced deal with streamlining permit and development processes, [00:12:46] both applications, permits, and licenses, and providing consultation assistance to people that are interested in making property improvements [00:12:59] and making information about processes available to the public. [00:13:08] And the action items that were identified to support those goals were website redesign, which is in process, [00:13:19] and Mike Miller just reported to you on that, and we are hopeful to launch that in October. [00:13:28] which is a part of the website redesign and will provide us with an opportunity to disseminate information on processes [00:13:43] and will enable customers of the department to access information easily. [00:13:54] We will have a government delivery system, which is an email blast system, also with the new website, [00:14:03] which will be very helpful in the dissemination of information to property owners, contractors, and developers. [00:14:17] And we are in the process of developing written reference tools to assist property owners through the permitting process. [00:14:26] We do have some, but they're constantly being rewritten and updated to reflect current standards. [00:14:33] And we do provide ombudsman service to usher developers through required processes. [00:14:40] I have to say that the development department in particular is very good about walking homeowners and contractors through processes. [00:14:51] And when it comes to developers, in large part, it ends up being a function of either my office, [00:15:00] or Greg Orivac is also very helpful in getting developers through processes [00:15:07] with which they may not be familiar because our our custom might be a little [00:15:13] different than that of another municipality. So I just want to say I've [00:15:17] had two calls this week telling me how wonderful Tammy was in the department [00:15:21] and how she has helped them through every single process and that's two just [00:15:25] this week. That's great to hear, great to hear. So we do review our processes for [00:15:38] improvement all the time that is ongoing and that'll be our new color once we [00:15:47] establish that. No it's fair I mean I'm not being mean or it's a fair color that [00:15:53] you know we should really be aware of you know make it a lot easier for us to [00:15:58] understand. I will for sure and it usually is problem-based and that's when [00:16:06] we start to review our process and consider what improvements can be made [00:16:13] and research technology applications which facilitate online permitting and [00:16:21] license. We're currently working on that and we've in part enabled a system where [00:16:29] a lot of applications can be taken online and we do have customer-friendly [00:16:36] communication protocols and intentionally and regularly communicate [00:16:42] processes to the users of the systems and our services. Lastly I'm going to ask [00:16:53] Chris Fitch, I didn't see him but I know he's here. He's coming down. Early on when you [00:17:00] first came aboard you had a card that you would give out some people and in [00:17:05] that example that how they thought their services were and they were you know [00:17:08] they didn't have to say who they were and they could mail them in. Are we still doing that? We still do have that program and we have regular respondents to it not the same people but we have [00:17:21] people that fill them out regularly and we send them responses to their cards [00:17:28] and when we see patterns we either acknowledge that we have a process [00:17:37] deficiency and we try to identify a remedy and make a change or we see an [00:17:45] exemplary employee and we give out gift cards to acknowledge their outstanding [00:17:51] service. Well also I think sometimes you get these cards at least when people [00:17:56] approach me in the public that it's their lack of knowledge you know and [00:18:00] sometimes you might get a card where like well if you went and saw this person or that [00:18:03] person kind of direct them to so it takes care of the problems that probably [00:18:06] some of it too. Yeah we'll respond to whatever they write on the card. Yeah well I'm just [00:18:12] saying yeah I'm just saying sometimes it's a lack of knowledge why they wrote [00:18:14] the card. A lack of knowledge as to why they left it? No well no yeah why they [00:18:21] left the card they didn't know the whole procedure they didn't know the process [00:18:24] you know and so I said like I always refer to myself as the cop in the middle [00:18:28] street when people approach me say go this way or go that way because they [00:18:31] don't know which way to go and I think it's probably some of the cards are [00:18:34] brought about because of that too I would I would think anyhow because they [00:18:38] just lack of knowledge. Sometimes it is and it gives us a chance to connect [00:18:43] because they always leave contact information. It was better than the box [00:18:48] setting in you know they knew who put who put the card in the box you know [00:18:52] you know didn't necessarily make it to your office. Right they do. The final [00:19:07] strategy is actually twofold and it is to optimize the resiliency of the city [00:19:18] and the city's emergency preparedness response and recovery services and the [00:19:24] goals are to maintain plans and communication strategies for all of the [00:19:29] major risks within the city and to ensure that all city employees assigned [00:19:35] an emergency operations role or cross-functional field work are trained [00:19:40] to an appropriate level and I've asked Chris to join me up front so that he can [00:19:45] help me deliver the status of the action items on this because he is intimately [00:19:52] involved in the implementation of both of those goals and with that being said [00:20:03] we do operate within the statewide emergency response plan. We do operate [00:20:10] within the Pasco County all hazard comprehensive emergency management plan. [00:20:16] I think it's important to note that we also have a city emergency management [00:20:22] plan that we operate within and we do conduct routine emergency management [00:20:28] exercises with city leadership and essential staff and I think one of the [00:20:37] most important things that we do is we have post event reviews so that we learn [00:20:44] from every experience and amend the plan as is appropriate based on our learnings. [00:21:00] We are ongoing for creating plans and communication strategies for all major [00:21:06] risks within the city. We hold Judy accountable to make sure that all public [00:21:15] information is presented clearly and in a timely fashion as she serves as our [00:21:19] public information officer. We establish links with the appropriate businesses [00:21:26] that potentially play a role in our response efforts. Chris just recently [00:21:35] established a link with Publix and we found that the manager lives in town and [00:21:42] is able to open the store in emergencies in case we need to get some extra [00:21:47] supplies. Is that why they were out at the Hurricane Expo? Was that tied into [00:21:51] that at all? Well yes we invited them as well as Winn-Dixie since there are city [00:21:57] supermarkets to attend that. We need to update employee NIMS training. That's the [00:22:05] type of training that we get for emergency management and create an [00:22:10] emergency management committee that's done and is kept up to date. We develop [00:22:17] a workflow to maintain up-to-date employee information regarding [00:22:21] sheltering needs. One of the things that we try to do and have been able to do [00:22:27] for at least the last few years is we provide shelter to employees' families [00:22:37] when we're able to do so because the last thing we want is when the employees [00:22:44] are here during an emergency for them to worry about the welfare of their [00:22:48] families and so we've been able fortunately to house them in a safe [00:22:57] spot so that our employees can devote themselves to the tasks at hand. The [00:23:04] chief is very good about providing weekly tropical reports to staff during [00:23:09] storm season. We have made improvements to the city's emergency operations [00:23:16] center. We are in the process of completing a citywide vulnerability [00:23:26] analysis and action plan and operating the newly implemented damage assessment [00:23:33] and recovery services survey one two three program. Chief, do you have anything [00:23:42] to add? Sure, I've got a few things. So back up to the third bullet point down, in [00:23:49] addition to the SEMP plan they call it for the county, we're [00:23:55] also a part of the local mitigation strategy, LMS they call it, which is [00:24:00] renewed every five years so that will be coming up in August for a renewal by [00:24:04] resolution. In addition to the relationships that we've made, we also [00:24:10] have two MOUs with local facilities to use their properties in the event that [00:24:19] we need a shelter, an extra shelter, a contingency location to move city staff [00:24:28] apparatus, resources, vehicles, what have you. We have those in place as well. We [00:24:36] are, as you I'm sure know, we're in the process of going to the CRS process and [00:24:42] tied to that is a storm ready designation by the National Weather [00:24:47] Service so we're in the process of getting that designation for the city. [00:24:51] We're close, we've got a two, we have to do two more trainings and and we'll [00:24:58] follow up with you on our progress with that. And that's all I have in addition [00:25:05] to what you said. Are there any additional organizational? A little off because I was [00:25:10] around a fire this week from the other coast. Do we have a recruiting [00:25:14] problem here? We have a recruitment problem? Well I wouldn't say that we have [00:25:19] a problem, it's a it's a statewide issue they're just there's a shortage of [00:25:24] certified firefighters around the state. I hear it all the time from a lot of [00:25:29] different chiefs. I know that the at the state level they're working to rectify [00:25:35] that problem through the certification process make it a little easier for [00:25:40] out-of-state applicants to become state certified. The starting wage in this [00:25:47] county and our county was $10,000 difference so I don't know what it is [00:25:51] from the county to us but you know in the city but you know I thought $10,000 [00:25:57] was a major major number it's like 20% 25 so just curious. We're currently [00:26:06] conducting a wage study. I'm just saying that it's the highest in the state and so [00:26:11] I just wanted to know where we were and so I googled it I'm like we're a lot [00:26:16] different you know Pasco starts at 42 and they start at 50 so that was pretty [00:26:22] I wondered if it was a young firefighter might want to come here for a few months [00:26:29] and then go over the other coast. [00:26:35] Or they might just love New Port Richey. Yeah he must be the must be the chief. [00:26:41] This might be a little off but talking about resilience, I can't even say it. You know what I mean. [00:26:49] Like some of the houses on the road where I live on it kind of kind of dips [00:26:59] down and they're they're small houses they're you know single single story [00:27:03] small houses and over the years I've noticed seem like they always get hit [00:27:07] always you know flooded you know they're just in a bad spot. My neighbor had the [00:27:12] same issue and his house was so so small that in order to repair it with a 50% [00:27:19] rule he couldn't you know he had no options they would they couldn't you [00:27:24] know do it but wouldn't allow it so he applied for another program and I'm not [00:27:29] sure which one it was but he was able to get long story short they're coming [00:27:33] they're gonna knock his house down and build him a new and raise it up in FEMA [00:27:38] yeah so FEMA money not too many you know get done that way but that's great for [00:27:44] you know the city you know the neighborhood everything but there's [00:27:48] there's probably three or four more on that street that same thing you have to [00:27:52] designate the property as a repetitive loss property and once you do that [00:27:59] you're eligible for that FEMA funding the actual homeowners have to do that [00:28:05] yes okay and they can get information about that through the city's [00:28:12] development department if it's of interest to them okay on the how-tos [00:28:18] I'm sure there's other areas in the city too but there are you know know my area [00:28:23] there all right thank you well we're talking about emergency prepared [00:28:28] response and recovery services are we talking specifically as it relates to [00:28:32] weather or is it all okay so I don't see here and I'd love to see it included is [00:28:39] what partnerships we have with our schools in the event of a school related [00:28:43] disaster because I would assume we are the closest entity to respond to say an [00:28:49] active shooter ATP drill or 80 ATP threat at our skill or at our schools [00:28:55] does that fall under this it does in in part but we typically don't include our [00:29:06] plans there and I'll let you talk to the chief about that outside the meeting and [00:29:16] then are we able to get an email copy of the city disaster plan an email copy or [00:29:25] just I want to say if I'm praying this is the way I can just get it emailed [00:29:29] over to me it's currently on the city share drive and it will be coming to you [00:29:32] for adoption in a future meeting yep is it an annual thing yes it is are there [00:29:46] any questions or additional action items or goals that you want to advance in [00:29:56] relationship to the areas we've introduced [00:30:00] this evening. [00:30:04] On to number two. [00:30:06] We'll move on to number two. [00:30:12] Capital Improvement Program. [00:30:14] Okay. [00:30:16] Thank you, Chris. [00:30:19] Who could gather this agenda, but they got that timing down perfectly. [00:30:22] I'll tell you what. [00:30:22] Four o'clock on the dot. [00:30:24] She knows how long everything takes. [00:30:26] She's like on it. [00:30:28] Don't bet against her. [00:30:30] All right. [00:30:34] So, to begin, Capital Improvement Program lays out the financing, [00:30:42] the location, and the timing of capital improvement projects over several years [00:30:50] that are funded through this capital improvement budget. [00:30:55] The projects help us plan for, it looks like we're going to be getting some books [00:31:05] distributed, strategically for community growth and redevelopment. [00:31:12] CIP projects typically involve permanent structural changes to assets which enhance [00:31:18] value or capabilities, but it can also include asset upgrades or large-scale [00:31:24] maintenance work. [00:31:27] The reason that capital budget improvements are so important is because [00:31:32] they help us anticipate need rather than just react to circumstances. [00:31:38] Which department are we doing here now? [00:31:41] I'm sorry, Mr. Mayor? [00:31:42] Which department are we doing here? [00:31:44] We didn't start yet. [00:31:45] We're doing CIP. [00:31:46] I'll be giving some introductory comments. [00:31:50] Sorry. [00:31:52] Listening to. [00:31:59] It also helps the city to get necessary resources in place gradually and [00:32:03] determine the most economical means to finance if we need to.

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3. 3

   Review of the FY24-25 Proposed Capital Improvement Program

   discussed

   Public Works Director Rivera presented the FY24-25 proposed Capital Improvement Program (a five-year program), reviewing projects across the General Fund (recreation/aquatics), Stormwater Utility (002), and Capital Projects Fund (301). Council provided direction to add lighting to the planned Francis Avenue Park beach volleyball court engineering, and discussed numerous projects including pool resurfacing, the Beach Street Stormwater Resiliency Project (90% federally funded), Carleton/Dartmouth/Berkeley Resiliency design, Gray Preserve improvements, Sims Park LED screen replacement, and Peace Hall renovations.

   • direction:Council directed staff to include engineering for lights at the planned Francis Avenue Park beach volleyball court. (none)

   📍Arito Park📍Astor Drive📍Berkeley, Carleton, Dartmouth (North River neighborhood)📍Palmetto📍end of Conger Street🏢Kiwanis Club🏢SWFWMD (Southwest Florida Water Management District)👤Mr. Rivera👤Ms. Manns#Artificial turf at Recreation and Aquatic Center#Beach Street Stormwater Resiliency Project#CDS unit (stormwater filter)#Capital Projects Fund 301#Carleton, Dartmouth and Berkeley Resiliency Improvement Project#FY24-25 Capital Improvement Program#Francis Avenue Park Improvement Phase 2#General Fund 001#Geothermal heater/cooler (prior year, replaced with heaters)#Gray Preserve (Shell Entrance Road, parking lot, restrooms, bridge)#James E. Gray Preserve restroom upgrades#Miscellaneous Flood Control Water Quality Projects#Outdoor basketball court resurfacing#Peace Hall renovations#Plunge pool slide resurfacing#Police station renovation (prior year)#Pool resurfacing (plunge, dive, lap pools)#Shade canopy replacement#Sims Park LED message screens#Stormwater Master Drainage Plan#Stormwater Utility Fund 002

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   [00:32:08] And it helps to establish buy-in from stakeholders and put city in a position [00:32:14] to compete for grants. [00:32:16] In the case of our city, the CIP process is led by Mr. Rivera and his department in [00:32:23] large part due to the fact that he has many multi-year projects and he has great [00:32:28] experience in strategically examining capital projects. [00:32:34] And with that being said, I'm going to allow Mr. Rivera to start to introduce this [00:32:40] year's capital improvement program, which I will remind you is a five-year program. [00:32:48] A budget is a one-year program, and a program is typically five to ten years. [00:32:54] In our experience, it is a five-year program. [00:32:57] Great. Thank you, Ms. Manns. [00:32:59] So what I'm going to start off with is going through the proposed coming year, [00:33:06] 24-25, and talk about the project and the funds. [00:33:11] Once I'm completed, if you have any additional questions on the outlying years, [00:33:17] feel free to ask me, but when we start off I'm just going to be talking about [00:33:22] the projects that we're proposing to do or [00:33:25] the ones that are carrying over into the 24-25 budget year. [00:33:30] The first group that we're talking about is our general fund, 001. [00:33:37] This is pretty much all recreation and aquatics projects. [00:33:42] The first one is artificial turf. [00:33:44] At the Recreation and Aquatic Center, you are familiar with the layout, [00:33:48] especially around the pools. [00:33:50] There are landscaping areas that have mulch and plants and those types of elements. [00:33:56] What we're proposing to do is to take that out and put some artificial turf, [00:34:01] purchase lawn furniture that can be moved around to where the people that attend [00:34:09] the Aquatic Center will be able to have different areas now that they can spread [00:34:13] out and utilize versus just having areas blocked off with landscaping. [00:34:21] The next project is a shade canopy replacement. [00:34:25] The project here is proposing to replace all of those shade structures. [00:34:30] Actually, I think that the recreation director will be presenting to you [00:34:35] in the next few council meetings the approval to purchase those. [00:34:41] And then, of course, once they're fabricated, it's custom made. [00:34:45] Once they're fabricated, the project will begin in the following year, and so [00:34:49] that's why you see these funds listed in next year's budget. [00:34:54] Pool resurfacing, we just completed the kiddie pool this year. [00:34:59] Because of scheduling and some of the difficulties that we had with this project, [00:35:04] we lost that time that we were able to be able to do the additional two pools that [00:35:10] we have in here, and so now we're repositioning and the option is to be [00:35:16] able to do the plunge pool and the dive pool when the pool area is shut down. [00:35:21] And then the following year, we'll get to the lap pool. [00:35:25] We're proposing to resurface the outdoor basketball courts. [00:35:30] I think that's long overdue. [00:35:33] The plunge pool slide resurfacing, [00:35:37] that'll coincide with the resurfacing of the pool itself. [00:35:43] And so I'll take any questions you may have. [00:35:46] If you don't mind me jumping in here, the shade canopy, you said that [00:35:51] you had said that the funds would carry over to the next year. [00:35:56] I saw it was on last year's. [00:35:58] Was that to carry over, or is it going to carry over next year? [00:36:03] Carrying over into this. [00:36:03] From last year, okay. [00:36:09] Was there a benefit to doing, you said you had to break up the resurfacing of the pools? [00:36:16] I imagine since they have to be redone every eight to 12 years, [00:36:21] is there a benefit to having them done so close together? [00:36:24] Is this more rotational, so we're not redoing them every 12 years at the same time? [00:36:30] Well, we had talked about that, and the ideal situation was what we had proposed [00:36:34] last year was to be able to get those three pools that aren't heated, [00:36:39] that everything is shut down, to get those done all at one shot. [00:36:43] We would have saved on mobilization, economy of scale, [00:36:46] all of those types of factors. [00:36:48] Again, we had difficulties with the first pool, so [00:36:51] that kind of pushed the other two back. [00:36:54] But the lap pool, I really can't answer that one, [00:36:58] as far as when the best time to be able to take care of that. [00:37:02] That would have to come from the recreation director. [00:37:05] Okay, on that topic, there was no engineering for resurfacing those, [00:37:10] only the pool slide? [00:37:12] Correct. [00:37:13] I just don't know. [00:37:14] Well, the pool slide, what you're looking at is the pool slide [00:37:18] has to have a deficiency analysis. [00:37:20] We have some concrete areas that the brackets attach into, [00:37:26] and we need to have a structural engineer take a look at that and [00:37:29] see if it's just aesthetics or if it actually is structurally defective, [00:37:33] depending on what type of repairs are gonna need to be called out. [00:37:37] Okay, I have two more and then I'm done. [00:37:40] The geothermal heater and cooler was slated for this year. [00:37:44] Was that canceled, moved up? [00:37:46] What happened with that one on last year's plan? [00:37:49] That no longer is needed. [00:37:51] We were able to take and replace the heaters, and [00:37:55] they took the replace of the geo. [00:37:57] I think this council approved that. [00:37:59] Is that, was that a part of a purchase, [00:38:02] one of the consent purchases or something like that? [00:38:05] Cuz my fear is, looking at this, the capital improvement from last year [00:38:09] says we were doing geothermal, but it didn't, but this year it's gone. [00:38:14] So how are we communicating to the public that we did it or we didn't do it? [00:38:18] How is that planned out? [00:38:20] Because as it looks like right now, it just looks like we didn't do it at all. [00:38:24] So is there a way for us to indicate whether it was done? [00:38:26] I mean, we could do it in Friday council reports if we have something like that. [00:38:38] For the most part, a lot of those things that happen were coming to you [00:38:43] to close out a project, and we talk about how the elements that are included in it, [00:38:48] or not included in it, but we could call it out to where [00:38:52] it's more highlighted if you want in the future. [00:38:55] Just for transparency's sake, because if I'm looking at this, [00:38:58] I don't know where that project went. [00:39:00] It just kind of disappeared. [00:39:02] So I don't know, I'm sure it got done, and I'm sure council approved it before I [00:39:06] got on, but I don't see it anywhere. [00:39:08] So I don't know what happened to it. [00:39:11] And then finally, there was also a $50,000 police station renovation last year. [00:39:16] It was $100,000 last year, and then $50,000 that was supposed to go into this year, [00:39:22] that also has, so did we just do the full 150 last year, or what happened to that line? [00:39:28] We, the police department, that project, we added the general fund. [00:39:36] So how that project called out for a lot of elements that included restroom upgrades, [00:39:45] their break room upgrades, and a lot of interior upgrades, [00:39:50] restroom, those types of things. [00:39:53] We were able to do a lot of that stuff in-house, and so the dollar amount [00:39:58] that was budgeted was based upon contractual estimates. [00:40:03] So because of that, we were able to complete the project earlier, [00:40:07] as well as under budgeted. [00:40:10] Okay. [00:40:12] Thank you, that helps me know where that went. [00:40:14] I appreciate that. [00:40:20] Did their job and saved us money. [00:40:22] Yes, sir. [00:40:23] And please don't take my questions to think you didn't, I just want to know where it went. [00:40:28] The next fund we have is 002 Stormwater Utility. [00:40:38] You'll notice that the first project line item we have is a miscellaneous flood [00:40:42] control water quality projects. [00:40:45] This is what we typically call a reactive projects, [00:40:50] when we're talking about miscellaneous. [00:40:52] And typically these types of projects happen during the rainy season, [00:40:57] when we have to react to certain situations. [00:41:00] As an example would be, if we started experiencing some flooding [00:41:05] down around Arito Park, which is the industrial park, [00:41:08] there's a lot of different storm structures, pretty deep canals, [00:41:13] those types of things. [00:41:15] We would take and still have to come to you, still have to follow our purchasing [00:41:21] guidelines, so obviously if the repair was less than the amount [00:41:26] that we would have to go to council, we'd be able to go ahead and [00:41:29] do it and follow that process. [00:41:31] If it was more, we would still have to come to you and ask you for approval. [00:41:35] All this does is allocate those funds, put them in a account to where [00:41:40] we can eliminate budget amendments, save time, [00:41:43] we've got our money allocated to be able to respond. [00:41:47] The following one is the Beach Street Stormwater Resiliency Project, [00:41:54] that's scheduled to have the construction completed next year. [00:42:01] The great thing about this project is when you see that 1.5 in construction, [00:42:06] 90% of it is covered by a federal grant, so we really feel good about that one. [00:42:15] Finally, we're going to finish up some design elements of the Carleton, [00:42:20] Dartmouth and Berkeley Resiliency Improvement Project. [00:42:24] This basically starts in the North River neighborhood, [00:42:29] what I would consider the northwestern portion of it, [00:42:34] up around Berkeley, Carleton, Dartmouth, [00:42:37] there is no storm systems that are there existing now, [00:42:42] so basically we pick up and start up around Berkeley over on Astor Drive, [00:42:48] head south over to Palmetto and tie into the existing system, [00:42:52] and then of course before we go out to the outfall on the river, [00:42:56] we'll install a CDS unit, which basically is a filter for all the pollutants [00:43:02] that it will capture, and we'll have to maintain it. [00:43:07] We typically have, I think we have three or four of them now, [00:43:12] and those units work really efficient, [00:43:15] and we go out every quarter and take and maintain those, [00:43:18] and so it collects a lot of debris from getting into the river. [00:43:26] Does anybody have any questions on the stormwater utility? [00:43:29] It looks like the first one, it was an increase of $50,000 per year being budgeted. [00:43:35] Is that just precautionary, or were we skirting close to the $100,000 mark from last year? [00:43:42] Because last year it was $100,000 straight through, and it looks like it got bumped up $50,000. [00:43:47] Is that inflation? Is it just we've had a lot of projects? [00:43:50] I got you. I was on another project. [00:43:52] The story about that is we typically kept $300,000 in there, [00:43:56] and that was a good number for us. [00:43:59] When we went through the difficult times, we ended up having to back down, [00:44:04] and so what you see is an effort of us to try to get back in increments [00:44:10] and still maintain the rate that the residents are assessed every year. [00:44:16] Was that because of COVID? [00:44:18] Correct. [00:44:22] Congratulations on the 90% for the national. [00:44:26] I did have one question on that, which I think you've answered by saying that. [00:44:30] It was originally broken up into two years. [00:44:32] Was that able to move forward because of the grant? [00:44:35] Like last year, did we not have the national grant? [00:44:38] We didn't have it. [00:44:39] There was delays in it, and so it kept pushing that back. [00:44:43] And to add to that, we had originally were awarded a state grant from SWFMUD [00:44:50] in the amount of approximately $345,000, [00:44:54] and so when the federal grant came on board [00:45:00] At 90%, obviously, we were trying to wait [00:45:04] to see if we could get that, [00:45:06] and so that's what happened with our delays. [00:45:08] Did that SwiftBud grant get moved somewhere else, [00:45:11] or was it only in this? [00:45:12] You either have one or the other, [00:45:14] so we terminated that and took the 90%. [00:45:20] Thanks. [00:45:22] Thanks. [00:45:29] Oh, one last thing. [00:45:30] Can I get a copy of the, [00:45:34] well, I don't know if it exists, that's my question. [00:45:37] There was a stormwater master drainage plan [00:45:41] that I saw was updated in March, [00:45:43] or at least it was supposed to be a public meeting for it. [00:45:46] It was on the website somewhere. [00:45:48] Did that end up coming before council for approval, [00:45:51] or is that not something that? [00:45:52] We're still in the process of that. [00:45:56] We had that public meeting as part of the process [00:46:01] so that we were able to get the residents, [00:46:03] and not only do we, we take different surveys [00:46:08] when you do your master plans. [00:46:10] Typically, we run off of a 10-year cycle, [00:46:14] and so part of the data collection [00:46:16] includes taking the residents [00:46:18] and having a public hearing to where they can come in [00:46:21] and say, hey, you might not know it, [00:46:23] but we flood over here in this part of town all the time, [00:46:28] and so that gives us a chance to be able to review [00:46:32] all of those situations and find out [00:46:35] if they're legitimate, if they're not, [00:46:37] if there's things that we can include in the master plan [00:46:40] to go ahead and rectify those types of situations. [00:46:44] So when that's done, [00:46:45] do you mind just sending over a copy of it? [00:46:47] Well, yeah, we'll be presenting it to you. [00:46:50] Right now, it's in the draft phase. [00:46:55] So we'll actually schedule the meeting, [00:46:57] and it's probably going to be a good portion of it. [00:47:06] So our next category is 301 Fund. [00:47:12] The first project that we have is the Gray Preserve. [00:47:17] This project has been delayed. [00:47:20] You have noticed it on the previous years. [00:47:24] It is the design and construction [00:47:26] of the Shell Entrance Road [00:47:29] and the parking lot with restroom facilities there. [00:47:32] The project area is at the end of Conger Street. [00:47:37] If you remember, the city had acquired that property [00:47:39] a few years back. [00:47:41] It will also include the construction of a bridge [00:47:44] that will go over that waterway [00:47:47] to tie into the existing Gray Preserve and to the trails. [00:47:56] The next project that we have [00:47:58] is Francis Avenue Park Improvement. [00:48:02] This is phase two. [00:48:03] Phase one included, the main element of phase one [00:48:07] was the shelters and the restroom reconstruction. [00:48:12] This phase will include a boardwalk [00:48:14] that will start at the northern limits of the park [00:48:17] and go along the river's edge south [00:48:21] and terminate near the existing kayak launch. [00:48:25] We would anticipate that there'll be areas [00:48:26] on that boardwalk that you'll be able to fish from [00:48:29] or just sightsee. [00:48:32] Sidewalks are included that will connect [00:48:35] that boardwalk to the existing sidewalks. [00:48:39] And then, of course, several different elements, [00:48:43] trash can upgrades, landscaping, those types of things. [00:48:46] I think the main thing that we want to also note [00:48:49] is the ADA-compliant playground equipment [00:48:53] that we'll be installing. [00:48:54] And that came from a $20,000 donation [00:48:58] from the Kiwanis Club, if you remember. [00:49:01] And then, finally, we would include the rehabilitation [00:49:04] of the existing basketball courts that need to be upgraded. [00:49:09] I'm just curious, you have beach volleyball there. [00:49:14] Is there going to be lights coming into that area? [00:49:24] Is that a typo? [00:49:25] Or are we still, I don't think that's included in this phase. [00:49:33] It is now. [00:49:35] What? [00:49:36] If the council wants it. [00:49:37] If you want that element, then we'll give it. [00:49:39] Beach volleyball, in my opinion, [00:49:40] it's not going to go unless you've got lights. [00:49:44] It's more of an adult game. [00:49:47] And if you can't play after dark, [00:49:50] then we had beach volleyball years ago, [00:49:55] and it just grass grew over it. [00:49:59] If it's the wish of the council to have beach volleyball, [00:50:02] then we will have beach volleyball with lights. [00:50:05] I've already discussed that the rec center [00:50:07] needs to promote Francis Park, [00:50:09] not only for the middle schools, [00:50:10] but for the whole city. [00:50:14] And so, unless they're going to do that [00:50:16] and add that as an active program there, [00:50:18] then it's a no. [00:50:19] But if they're going to start showing up on that facility [00:50:22] and promote that facility, [00:50:24] then yeah, then you could probably [00:50:25] get beach volleyball going there. [00:50:27] So does the beach volleyball idea in its engineering, [00:50:31] does it include, you're saying lights? [00:50:32] Is that the word you're using? [00:50:33] Is lights, would it include some sort of after hours, [00:50:37] like how the basketball courts over at the rec center [00:50:39] have lights you can keep on after hours? [00:50:42] Timer. [00:50:43] Yeah, a timer based. [00:50:44] Yeah, well see, people aren't going to play [00:50:47] in June and July, [00:50:48] and that's when it's going to be laid out to 9.30. [00:50:50] But when the people are going to play, [00:50:52] then the sun sets earlier. [00:50:55] So it's just a matter of fact, [00:50:58] it's just, be considerate. [00:51:00] Right, but the lights would be set on timers. [00:51:04] But is there an added cost to that? [00:51:05] Or would it be? [00:51:06] There would be, yes. [00:51:06] It's not included in that? [00:51:07] It's not included in the. [00:51:10] But do we have any programs [00:51:11] that are promoting beach volleyball? [00:51:13] I know the county rec center, [00:51:15] there is a good group of residents here [00:51:17] who opt to go to the county to be able to do, [00:51:20] I don't know if it's beach volleyball, [00:51:22] I don't know all the types of volleyballs, [00:51:24] but there's a volleyball niche. [00:51:25] Well, there's indoor volleyball, [00:51:26] and then there's beach volleyball. [00:51:27] So beach volleyball is very different players [00:51:30] than indoor volleyball. [00:51:31] Yeah, I don't know. [00:51:32] It's very different players, and it's very different. [00:51:34] Right, and there was beach volleyball at Gildog. [00:51:38] You know, of course, that's gone. [00:51:40] Okay, that's fair. [00:51:41] It's just, but we have to have the rec center [00:51:43] start participating in programs there. [00:51:46] And I've talked about it for after school, [00:51:49] because right down the street is middle school. [00:51:51] They all walk by the park, so. [00:51:55] What, do you know the structure? [00:51:56] Is there a risk of it becoming a thing [00:51:59] where kids are taking sand [00:52:00] and moving it over to the mulched area, or? [00:52:03] No, no, no. [00:52:03] No, you just get the grass that grows. [00:52:05] If it's not played on. [00:52:06] If grass grows into it, it's maintenance. [00:52:08] If it's not played on. [00:52:10] Well, do we want to add lights, or? [00:52:13] Well, maybe if it's the engineering, [00:52:14] I'd like to engineer the lights. [00:52:16] Let's put it that way. [00:52:16] I mean, I think if we're gonna do the beach volleyball, [00:52:18] then we should do the lights. [00:52:19] Otherwise, I don't think we should. [00:52:21] Yeah, so might as well add it to the, [00:52:22] this is the engineering, let's add that to it. [00:52:25] Because it's not so much the lights themselves, [00:52:27] you gotta get power to there, too. [00:52:30] Got it. [00:52:34] Bottom line is, there's gotta be more activities [00:52:36] than one a day, one day a week beach volleyball there. [00:52:41] Because there's, we're doing a lot of work there. [00:52:44] And we did a lot of work at the Meadows, [00:52:45] and now we're doing work there. [00:52:46] So we just gotta span out the program [00:52:48] from the Rec Center and the Sims Park [00:52:50] to those other two parks. [00:52:52] And down the road, I think there's gonna be a lot more. [00:52:55] We can use our noggins and find more things going on [00:52:58] at Great Preserve, too. [00:53:01] The next project that we have [00:53:03] is the Sims Park improvements. [00:53:06] It's the LED message screens that are out there. [00:53:09] You may have noticed that they either have intermittent [00:53:13] or permanent pixel outages on the different boxes. [00:53:17] Color. [00:53:18] Correct. [00:53:18] Talking with IT, that system right now is antiquated. [00:53:23] It was installed, if you remember, [00:53:24] in the 2016-2017 Sims Park Improvement Project. [00:53:29] So, it is time, and so that's what this project is. [00:53:34] We've got 200,000 budgeted. [00:53:38] I think the screens originally only cost 100 each. [00:53:41] They've really come down in price. [00:53:43] Actually, they were like 150 a piece last time. [00:53:49] That's good. [00:53:50] When were the screens originally purchased? [00:53:53] In 16? [00:53:54] 16-17. [00:53:55] Okay. [00:53:57] 16-17. [00:53:59] Sure it wasn't 2016? [00:54:01] Just kidding, kidding. [00:54:04] Correct. [00:54:05] Just kidding. [00:54:12] The next project we have [00:54:13] is the James E. Gray Preserve restroom upgrades. [00:54:16] There are existing restrooms that are there [00:54:19] that were constructed in 2008, [00:54:25] and so we need to get in there and rehab them. [00:54:30] Just a little flash on there. [00:54:32] Do we have any cameras out there at Gray Preserve? [00:54:36] No. [00:54:38] We have the full-time police officer who goes to the park. [00:54:44] I was wondering if we might have at least a camera [00:54:48] so we track the cars going in and out. [00:54:54] I'm not necessarily referring all the way into the park, [00:54:56] but at least so we can identify who went in and who went out [00:55:02] if there ends up being some problem in there. [00:55:06] Not that they didn't walk in, but they came in a vehicle. [00:55:09] Right, okay. [00:55:11] It would be really cool. [00:55:12] It would be like a wildlife camera or something out there. [00:55:16] Track wildlife and tap into the park, [00:55:19] promote it that way. [00:55:21] It's a great idea. [00:55:21] It's an idea, like spending money, you know? [00:55:24] Tourist attraction. [00:55:27] We can put it on our website, and everybody can watch the animals. [00:55:30] They could do it. [00:55:32] Look at St. Clair Field right now with how high the grass is. [00:55:40] That would be a nice little something for tourists and track them. [00:55:45] The next project that we have for tourists [00:55:49] is the Peace Hall renovations. [00:55:55] We need to get in there, [00:55:56] perform a structural deficiency analysis, [00:55:58] see what conditions we have on the existing floor, [00:56:01] the roof, the interior exterior walls, [00:56:04] and go from there. [00:56:07] We're anticipating grants on this project [00:56:09] will be available for a large portion of it. [00:56:14] How old is that building? [00:56:16] 30s, 40s? [00:56:18] I don't recall specifically. [00:56:21] I'd have to get back with you on that. [00:56:22] It's fine, you don't have to. [00:56:24] It was the old Catholic Church. [00:56:26] I want to say it was like in the 20s, 26. [00:56:29] I was going to say 20-something. [00:56:30] Yeah, 26 sounds like it. [00:56:32] Right, 335. [00:56:38] And so this next project is the rehabilitation [00:56:42] of the existing skateboard park at the recreation center. [00:56:47] We all know the condition of that, [00:56:49] and so this proposed project for the coming year [00:56:53] is for the design, [00:56:55] and then we would anticipate the build [00:56:57] would be in the 25, 26 year. [00:57:00] Does the deterioration come from use or from weather? [00:57:04] I think it's a combination, [00:57:06] and to be fair to the people that use it, [00:57:11] I think that a lot of the equipment over the years [00:57:14] that we have tried to put out there [00:57:16] has been inadequate for what they do, [00:57:21] and so if we're going to have something like that, [00:57:23] then you really need to expect to buy the right equipment [00:57:28] that's going to be able to withstand [00:57:31] a lot of the things that those kids do now. [00:57:33] It's not that they're abusing anything, [00:57:34] it's just they're talented, [00:57:37] and so I think we need to address that, [00:57:40] and then of course you have the fencing and the lighting [00:57:42] and those types of things that, you know, it's age-related, [00:57:46] but I think it's just a combination. [00:57:49] When we look at the inventory for equipment there, [00:57:53] I know quite a few years ago, [00:57:56] the city manager did some sort of youth listening session [00:58:00] where kids came out and they talked about that skate park. [00:58:04] It's been a minute, and this is now just coming up, [00:58:07] so would it be beneficial if I just pass along, [00:58:10] I don't know if you guys already got an inventory, [00:58:12] but I could pass along a list, [00:58:14] because that was a topic of conversation [00:58:15] towards the end of the school year [00:58:17] with a lot of kids at golf middle school, [00:58:18] and I imagine golf high school too, [00:58:21] that they know exactly what they want, [00:58:23] so they were saying words that have no clue what they mean, [00:58:26] so I'll pass it along to you. [00:58:29] If you aren't, if you guys didn't already, [00:58:31] because it says here state-of-the-art skating equipment, [00:58:34] it doesn't really list what those are, [00:58:35] so I'm assuming that list hasn't been done yet, okay. [00:58:38] Correct. [00:58:39] So there's still time to get that to you? [00:58:40] Yes, sir. [00:58:46] The next project that we have is some project hardening [00:58:50] to the structure itself at Fire Station One, [00:58:52] which is located behind the library. [00:58:56] This also has been in the previous CIP, [00:59:00] and has been delayed due to the grant process. [00:59:06] The next one is the completion of Fire Station Two [00:59:12] that's under construction now. [00:59:15] Did want to reiterate that there was [00:59:18] a state legislative appropriations [00:59:21] in the amount of 1.5 million towards this project. [00:59:25] 1.2, I'm sorry. [00:59:33] With the three, it makes 1.5. [00:59:35] Okay. [00:59:39] This project is the exterior upgrades [00:59:42] at City Hall in the library. [00:59:44] This is that project that we brought to you [00:59:46] that we wanted to go back and revisit, [00:59:49] because it's, as we started digging into it, [00:59:53] we have a little bit more things to do [00:59:57] than just doing some. [01:00:00] ceiling, and so this is the re-mortaring of the exterior of the building here at City Hall and the library. [01:00:12] City Hall facility renovations. [01:00:15] Currently, we are in the design phase of [01:00:18] rehabbing the restrooms on the first floor and the second floor. We would anticipate, [01:00:23] along with that rehabbing, that ADA [01:00:26] compliances where needed would be installed. [01:00:37] The next project would be the design phase of the [01:00:42] City Hall campus building, part of our resiliency program where we're trying to incorporate the [01:00:49] storm [01:00:50] hardening of all of our facilities. [01:00:53] The City Hall building is, as you know, the center of business operations for the city, [01:00:59] and there are grants out there for these types of [01:01:04] project elements, and that's what we're looking at as far as the first [01:01:09] go-round would be to take, remove, and replace these windows and get some impact windows in. [01:01:19] The [01:01:22] next project that we have is the [01:01:26] Grand Boulevard bridge replacement. As you are aware, the county has taken the lead in this. They do own [01:01:33] the bridge. The city is [01:01:36] also helping funding when it comes to the portion of [01:01:40] raising the bridge itself and the topside elements of the multi-use path. The [01:01:46] 175 that you see in 2425 is [01:01:50] part of the interlocal agreement that was executed and approved by City Council [01:01:56] a few years back when we first started the process, and this is basically all of the design portion of the city's [01:02:04] responsibility. [01:02:09] The next project that we have is the [01:02:12] 2023 Grand Boulevard multi-use path. This is phase one south. Our limits are [01:02:18] from [01:02:20] Golf Drive [01:02:22] to Marine Parkway. This has been bid out. We are anticipating [01:02:29] construction to begin within the month and be completed all during the following year. [01:02:41] Phase two of Grand Boulevard multi-use path. We're calling for the engineering to be performed next year. [01:02:51] That would be from the bridge north to the downtown area and then along Delaware where it would connect [01:02:59] to the existing path that you have on Madison Street currently. [01:03:11] And that completes 301 fund. Do you have any questions? [01:03:18] Do we anticipate the Grand Boulevard bridge going up in cost? [01:03:25] Yes, we do. [01:03:27] From what we're saying now, I mean it's already went from one to one seven, you know, so. Correct. [01:03:33] Yeah, we would anticipate it and and we are [01:03:37] approximately, I think, I think we're about eight months behind the original schedule for the beginning of construction. I think construction is [01:03:45] anticipated for January of 26. Correct. [01:03:47] We should have the hundred percent completed plans by January 2026 to then go out for construction. [01:03:54] So the next area of the Capital Improvement Program will be the Water and Sewer Construction Fund. This is fund 405. [01:04:15] The first item is the Fleet and Purchasing Warehouse Facility. That structure [01:04:22] will be demolished and replaced. The current structure that is there was constructed back in 1973 and [01:04:30] is our [01:04:32] maintenance facility that serves our PD, fire department, utilities, and the rest of our general fund. [01:04:40] The improvements will include an electric and hybrid vehicle maintenance and repair area, [01:04:45] electric vehicle charging station, hazardous storage area, welding area, [01:04:50] wash down area, and a secured area for utility and fleet inventory. [01:04:56] This project, the design, has already been completed and we have awarded the contract and we should be completing this project over the next year. [01:05:05] Were you around Matt when we did a tour of that building? [01:05:07] Mm-hmm. Yep. It was a couple years ago, maybe three or four years ago, and it was scary then. Yeah. [01:05:13] I can't believe it's still, no one's been electrocuted or [01:05:16] put a ball down on them or... Got our use out of it for sure. Yeah. [01:05:22] Restricted area. [01:05:25] Have a hard hat in that area. [01:05:28] The [01:05:29] next item is the potable and reclaimed water system extensions. As you see, this is, [01:05:36] these are funds that are set aside for projects that are, that come up as a as-needed basis. [01:05:43] So as we identify them as they come or as [01:05:47] existing lines fail, we have that money set aside so we don't need to do a budget amendment. [01:05:51] We can simply do the repairs as needed. [01:06:01] The next one is going to be the potable and reclaimed [01:06:08] water system extensions. [01:06:14] So, [01:06:15] sorry about that. [01:06:18] Actually, I just talked about that. Sorry. It's the NPR and Pasco County Interconnect upgrades. That's phase five. [01:06:23] This project includes the upgrades to the interconnect located at the intersection of Little Road and [01:06:29] Massachusetts Avenue. [01:06:31] This interconnect ties the city's water system into the Pasco County water system as a part of our [01:06:38] interlocal agreement with them. [01:06:41] It's utilized as a backup for drinking water and fire protection should the city have a [01:06:46] water utility system failure. The upgrades include valve replacements, valve relocations, backflow and backflow, back [01:06:55] blow-off assemblies. [01:07:01] Next item you'll see is the potable and reclaimed water system [01:07:06] improvements. [01:07:08] These projects are identified [01:07:12] with our ongoing street restoration program. They kind of go hand-in-hand in those [01:07:18] projects. We try to [01:07:19] replace water mains as we see them with projects that come up. [01:07:23] You know, if we're doing a pavement management plan, we tie these two together so we can replace identified water mains that [01:07:29] show potential for failure prior to. So we're doing one project as a holistic kind of approach. [01:07:39] Next item you'll see is the 2022-2023 water utility systems improvement. [01:07:45] This project includes the construction of new water transmission mains and [01:07:49] distribution mains in the area's existing system which are beyond their serviceable life and are prone to [01:07:55] failure or issues. [01:07:58] This project includes water main upgrades up to 7,800 linear feet of 6 to 8 inch water main replacement. [01:08:06] Valves, fittings, service connections and up to 10 fire hydrant assemblies. [01:08:11] The area located would be Madison Street from [01:08:15] Massachusetts Avenue to Pennsylvania Avenue, Florida Ave from Main Street to Madison Street, [01:08:21] Nebraska Ave from Adams Street to Madison Street, [01:08:25] Missouri Avenue from Lafayette Street to Nebraska Avenue and Delaware Avenue from Lafayette Street to Grand Boulevard. [01:08:32] Our next item we have here is the sewer main and manhole rehabilitation lining project. [01:08:40] For this year, we'll be focusing on [01:08:43] 3,091 linear feet of 8 inch sewer gravity mains. [01:08:47] This will be in the areas of Holladay, [01:08:50] Gainesville, [01:08:51] and [01:08:53] Gainesville. [01:08:55] We'll be focusing on [01:08:57] 3,091 linear feet of 8 inch sewer gravity mains. [01:08:59] This will be in the areas of Holladay, Garden Estates, and South River Road. [01:09:04] This project is [01:09:07] mainly focused on [01:09:10] lining these existing structures and utility lines so that we [01:09:17] ensure their longevity, get our useful life out of them, and decrease our total [01:09:23] infiltration and exfiltration points [01:09:25] so that way we can decrease our maintenance on these facilities. [01:09:36] Next item is your 2024-2025 sewer utility system improvements. [01:09:42] This project includes the design and construction of new sanitary [01:09:46] sewer force mains [01:09:48] in areas where we found that they're beyond their serviceable life and prone to rupture. [01:09:54] This includes the [01:09:58] installation of new force mains and the abandonment of existing force mains and right-of-ways in areas as designated. [01:10:05] This will also include the replacement of wastewater pump components and lift station structure control logistics. [01:10:12] And this will be at the lift stations on Maplewood Drive, the Tanglewood subdivision, [01:10:18] and the installation of a new upsized 8-inch force main along Rosewood Drive, Redwood Drive, [01:10:25] and Madison Street north to High Street. [01:10:33] You'll see on the next item the sewer system extension [01:10:37] miscellaneous projects. Again, this is a lot like the [01:10:42] potable water and reclaim water project in which we [01:10:46] set aside funding for these [01:10:49] as needed projects so we don't have to do a budget amendment if should something arise that we need to address. [01:11:01] Lastly for the 405 fund is the Town and Country Leisure Lane sewer extension. [01:11:08] This project includes the installation of 3,400 feet of new gravity sewer pipe manholes and a lift station [01:11:15] for the single-family home sewer lateral connection points. [01:11:18] This project will benefit approximately 115 parcels, and these are parcels that currently are on septic and [01:11:29] it is in a flood-prone area. [01:11:32] So we're currently looking at [01:11:34] potential grant funding to help with this project. [01:11:39] And with that, I'm open for any questions. [01:11:45] Is that project going down the street, or is it going between the lots? [01:11:51] So we haven't... [01:11:52] Because you've got, you know, Van Duren and, you know, whatever the other road is. [01:11:57] It could go down between the lots or it could go down the roads. [01:12:02] So this project hasn't been designed yet, however, [01:12:05] the ideal situation would be to put it out in the roadway. [01:12:09] Is the county still playing, working with us? [01:12:14] The county has been very cooperative with us. [01:12:17] In fact, they will be giving us $2 million towards the cost of the project. [01:12:22] Is that in addition to the $2 million that's reflected here? [01:12:25] That is the $2 million that's reflected here. [01:12:28] My question on that project, too, is [01:12:31] last year there was the $2 million from the county cooperative. [01:12:35] Now it says that we'll need... [01:12:39] So like, for example, last year we had $40,000 engineering straight. [01:12:44] Last year's was $40,000 engineering straight. [01:12:46] And then now it's jumped up to $250,000 this year, $50,000 next year, and $30,000 next year. [01:12:52] So it's a pretty big jump. [01:12:54] Are we just assuming, were they doing engineering and then we took it over? [01:12:58] What was the jump for? [01:12:59] Actually, the project was going to be engineered by U.S. Water Works. [01:13:05] And they are no longer a project partner. [01:13:08] So we're assuming the engineering costs associated with the project. [01:13:15] And we believe that we'll be paying a little bit more of a percentage of total budget [01:13:25] for engineering than we have, or that we... [01:13:29] than we expected to on some of our other projects, [01:13:34] just by way of what projects are costing these days. [01:13:40] And then as for the... [01:13:41] Right there. [01:13:42] Why did U.S. Water back out? [01:13:44] Or why did we not see eye to eye? [01:13:48] They were connected to the project more when it was a habitat project. [01:13:54] Oh, okay. [01:13:55] And it involved the county. [01:13:56] That answers it. [01:13:57] Okay. [01:13:58] Because they had 55 lots or something like that. [01:14:01] Okay. [01:14:04] Right. [01:14:05] As you might expect, we haven't given up that they might still be interested. [01:14:14] But... [01:14:15] And we will continue to have discussions with them. [01:14:19] But for budgeting purposes, we thought it was appropriate to fill in a number. [01:14:28] In that case for the construction element, it's a little bit out next year and the year after. [01:14:33] But there's that $2 million you talked about. [01:14:36] And then there's another $1,900,000 that's not previously listed. [01:14:45] What's that about? [01:14:46] That's the result of the fact that construction costs have escalated [01:14:51] considerably since the original budget was established. [01:14:57] And... [01:15:00] That's one of the reasons that we've applied for a grant [01:15:04] to supplement the $2 million that we will [01:15:07] be receiving from the county. [01:15:10] Just a little sidebar here. [01:15:12] I mean, it's really cleaning up our neighborhood, [01:15:15] for lack of a better term, the quicker we can do this. [01:15:18] Is there any way we can move faster on this whole area? [01:15:26] We can't move quicker until it is annexed, [01:15:30] and the annexation isn't complete, [01:15:32] and in all likelihood, won't be complete until the onset [01:15:37] of the next fiscal year. [01:15:38] Doesn't it also have to do with the monies coming [01:15:41] from the county and us and getting certain things done? [01:15:45] Well, it has to do. [01:15:48] Partnership and getting the partnership of their money [01:15:51] and our money getting some things done. [01:15:53] Then it becomes us, or is it? [01:15:55] It's the annexation. [01:15:57] It is bringing the property into the boundaries of the city's [01:16:02] CRA, and then it is the acceptance of the $2 million [01:16:08] so that we can initiate the improvements [01:16:12] to the sanitary sewer. [01:16:14] Get the money from them. [01:16:17] When the annexation is complete, and when [01:16:22] What you're going to this is FY fiscal year 25, [01:16:25] isn't the anticipation? [01:16:28] Or is that just in there so we have an idea? [01:16:30] That's just so you have an idea. [01:16:33] It just seems to me that it's on the table for a long time. [01:16:37] It has been on the table for a long time, [01:16:41] and it hasn't been a top priority [01:16:48] for some of the people at the county. [01:16:55] So we continue to push. [01:16:57] That was a nice way to say it. [01:16:59] So originally, the $2 million, when I talked about it, [01:17:03] they were wanting just to work with them, [01:17:04] or they were going to work with us to work on some grants. [01:17:08] But I thought they were trying to take off the $2 million. [01:17:12] They were very much trying to do that. [01:17:15] One person was. [01:17:16] So that's not the case? [01:17:19] It's not. [01:17:21] And we have already applied for a grant. [01:17:25] Our new grant writer has put his pen to paper [01:17:30] and has submitted a grant this week. [01:17:33] It's just anybody who goes north out of Southgate [01:17:36] and gets back in the city just rolls their eyes. [01:17:40] You got involved in it because of your neighborhood. [01:17:44] Well, that's not why I got involved in it. [01:17:45] No, but I'm just saying that's not the only reason. [01:17:49] But your neighborhood, I'm sure, let you know. [01:17:51] Oh, I hear about it with regularity, certainly. [01:17:55] But it's a much bigger purpose than that. [01:17:57] And it's the economic impact, in large part, [01:18:01] that it has on our primary taxpayer, the Southgate [01:18:04] Shopping Center, that is where it emanates for me. [01:18:07] Well, you can't do all that. [01:18:10] People aren't going to build anything there. [01:18:11] And that's why Habitat for Humanity left. [01:18:15] Well, and you have homeowners there [01:18:16] that have a hard time, that want to leave and can't sell. [01:18:20] How much do they sell? [01:18:21] Right, that's the thing. [01:18:23] But you do have homeowners that own those properties. [01:18:26] And once that's changed. [01:18:29] I was thinking there was homes there. [01:18:31] There's not too many homes there left. [01:18:32] There are homes there, though, that people own. [01:18:34] I mean, I just met with somebody last week [01:18:36] who was trying to sell it. [01:18:37] And obviously, she's not going to be [01:18:38] able to sell it for a while. [01:18:39] And I had to have that hard conversation [01:18:41] that until some of these improvements are made, [01:18:43] they just are not, it's not possible to sell it. [01:18:47] She actually thought she could do a short-term rental there. [01:18:55] Matt, you had something I cut you off earlier. [01:18:57] No, I just asked. [01:18:58] Oh, OK. [01:18:59] Yeah, OK. [01:19:01] So the next fund that we're talking about is 630. [01:19:06] It's the CRA. [01:19:08] The first project that you see is Railroad Square. [01:19:11] You're very familiar with that. [01:19:14] We are anticipating final design to be completed [01:19:17] within the next few weeks to where [01:19:20] we can start the process of going out to bid. [01:19:26] And we're anticipating our construction [01:19:27] to be in January of this year. [01:19:34] January's already missed. [01:19:38] You're right. [01:19:41] Is that going to fall into all of Chasco [01:19:44] and all of that going on? [01:19:46] Yeah, and I'm not sure that there's [01:19:47] any way to get around that. [01:19:49] We had anticipated the last go-around [01:19:53] before we had delays that it was still [01:19:55] going to impact the downtown in some form or fashion [01:20:01] when it came to those large events. [01:20:03] So we're going to present to you a RFP for approval [01:20:12] once we open that up on the 26th. [01:20:16] We're hoping that by using a construction management [01:20:19] company that we can overcome a lot of those obstacles [01:20:23] that we know we're going to be dealing with, [01:20:25] because this project is going to change day to day, hour [01:20:29] to hour, and we really need to be on top of our game. [01:20:32] So we're going to take into consideration [01:20:35] all of those events and try to make [01:20:37] the minimal impact on the businesses in the downtown area [01:20:41] as a whole as minimal as we can. [01:20:45] Are we going to be able to offer any kind of incentives [01:20:49] to them for early completion? [01:20:55] That, yeah, mostly, yeah. [01:20:59] Once we get a final estimate on construction, [01:21:01] we'll be in a better position to predict if we're going [01:21:04] to be able to do that or not. [01:21:06] We do know we will be able to impose liquidated damages [01:21:10] for late completion. [01:21:13] We just don't know what we'll be able to offer [01:21:15] in terms of incentives. [01:21:17] Really? [01:21:18] OK. [01:21:20] It's negotiating the deal, maybe tighten it up a little bit. [01:21:26] Maybe tighten in their timeline to start with. [01:21:34] We're very sensitive to being the cause of disruption [01:21:39] to the business community. [01:21:40] The government's been known to go slow, [01:21:42] and so contractors tend to throw in a few extra weeks. [01:21:49] Well, we're going to look at different ways to do that. [01:21:52] You know, sometimes the incentive to complete the job [01:21:59] doesn't always turn out the way you think it would. [01:22:03] An example would be when we did the Nebraska Avenue parking [01:22:06] lot. [01:22:07] That was an incentive-laden job. [01:22:09] And when I tell you that the contractor was trying [01:22:12] to do anything and everything that he could do to cut corners, [01:22:17] it presented its own problems, too. [01:22:19] So you have to find a balance between the two [01:22:23] to where you can get that product that you're demanding. [01:22:27] And so those are the things that we have to look at. [01:22:30] The next item that we've got is the Grand Boulevard Streetscape [01:22:34] Enhancement. [01:22:35] This is phase one. [01:22:37] This is between Montana Avenue and Nebraska Avenue. [01:22:41] We will be bringing this project to you, [01:22:43] a conceptual phase of it, to you tonight at the CRA. [01:22:49] Basically, it adds embellishments [01:22:51] to your existing streetscape area along Grand Boulevard [01:22:55] by expanding your sidewalks, giving larger seating areas, [01:22:59] more landscaping, eliminating the turn lanes, [01:23:04] narrowing the existing through lanes that [01:23:07] are there to create that traffic-calming sense. [01:23:14] I know that we do have area. [01:23:16] For the most part, you're downtown. [01:23:18] There are no speeding problems except for at certain locations. [01:23:22] Missouri and Grand Boulevard is one of them. [01:23:24] And so we feel like incorporating [01:23:27] these types of projects is going to help with that, [01:23:31] but also take the city to the next generation, [01:23:37] I guess, so to speak, to where we're improving on the elements [01:23:40] that we started, to where we continue [01:23:42] building on to what we have. [01:23:44] Since you brought up that corner, [01:23:47] you have to be on opposite corners from each other [01:23:52] to use the crosswalk. [01:23:53] There's two corners you can use the crosswalk and two you can't. [01:23:57] Are we going to fix that so you can push [01:24:00] the button on all four corners? [01:24:03] Well, let me take a look at that and see [01:24:06] exactly what you're talking about. [01:24:09] But it would be included in this project [01:24:13] if we were doing improvements like that. [01:24:15] You have to be on two corners to be [01:24:18] able to get the lights to go for you. [01:24:20] If you're on the other two corners, you cannot. [01:24:22] The button's on two corners, and they're two corners. [01:24:27] So you have to cross the street to get to the corner [01:24:29] to cross the other street. [01:24:30] We can look at it, and we'll report back to you. [01:24:33] Well, we ended up getting those things through grants, [01:24:35] so that's another one that we can turn around and apply for. [01:24:37] I thought we put up $42,000. [01:24:39] So we may have, but we also. [01:24:42] We didn't get the full $42,000, because it's only half done. [01:24:46] People talk about it all the time. [01:24:48] Yeah, I've got to walk across the street to get to the push [01:24:51] the button. [01:24:53] So I had brought up previously, too, [01:24:55] about putting some signage for downtown businesses, [01:24:58] directing people this way or that way [01:25:00] to different locations. [01:25:01] Because especially people who haven't been here before [01:25:04] and at night, if they're looking for a business, [01:25:06] it's difficult. They don't want to walk down the street [01:25:08] if they're not sure that's where it is. [01:25:09] So a good example of that is if you go to Safety Harbor, [01:25:13] they have the signage. [01:25:14] And it says, this business, this business. [01:25:16] And they're like little slide outs. [01:25:17] So you can take it out if the business leaves [01:25:19] and add a new one in so that the structure stays, [01:25:22] and then the signs can be replaced. [01:25:23] But something similar to that, just [01:25:25] so that we can have something for the local businesses. [01:25:28] I know you're looking at lights going up west on Missouri. [01:25:31] You need to look at lights going east on Missouri, too. [01:25:35] And with the signage thing, directions for parking. [01:25:41] People that live here know where our public parking lots are. [01:25:45] But people that are coming from out of town [01:25:47] don't know where public parking lots are. [01:25:50] Yeah, I'm with Kelly on that. [01:25:51] There is definitely an interest in the business community. [01:25:55] And I mean, when you can't get your solutions [01:25:57] from your local government, you'll come up with solutions. [01:26:00] And sometimes you'll see arbitrary signs on sidewalks [01:26:04] where they shouldn't be. [01:26:05] And then there's disputes between code enforcement [01:26:08] enforcing that on the east side of the bridge, [01:26:10] but not on the west side. [01:26:11] Or other way around, on the west side of the bridge, [01:26:14] but not the east side. [01:26:15] And that's mitigated if you have those permanent signs [01:26:18] that you can swap out. [01:26:21] I think we've talked about it before, but just a reminder [01:26:24] when it's parking. [01:26:25] You turn off 19 onto Main Street, [01:26:30] and you're past the parking garage before you know you are. [01:26:33] Yeah. [01:26:34] We will add a project for signage to the budget. [01:26:40] And we will look at the crosswalks at Missouri [01:26:44] and figure out what the remedy is and report back to you. [01:26:48] That's also that crosswalk. [01:26:49] I don't know if you were looped in, Robert, [01:26:51] but I think it's a good time to also mention to council. [01:26:57] There was a blind spot there when [01:26:58] you're trying to take a turn where Bruce Brothers is [01:27:01] and Mullen Music is. [01:27:02] When you try to take that turn, you [01:27:04] can't because of parallel parking on the side heading [01:27:09] toward Grand Boulevard Bridge. [01:27:11] So we have this mirror thing put up, but it's on the wrong side. [01:27:14] So staff said they'd move it over. [01:27:16] But I don't know if there's a permanent, [01:27:18] if that mirror is the most adequate solution, [01:27:20] or if we can look into some other permanent way [01:27:23] to be able to deal with the blind spot [01:27:25] when you're looking left from Missouri. [01:27:28] But Bob, take it one step further. [01:27:29] Is that going to change the parallel parking there [01:27:32] with the Grand Boulevard upgrade? [01:27:35] With what we're presenting to you this evening, [01:27:42] a lot of this discussion goes away. [01:27:44] Oh, good. [01:27:46] So we should do our homework. [01:27:47] No, no, no. [01:27:48] I didn't mean it that way. [01:27:49] Just hold on. [01:27:49] No, no, no, no. [01:27:52] He's like, just wait. [01:27:53] And you'll be able to see it because the architect has a lot [01:28:00] of good drawings for you. [01:28:01] So you'll really get a good impression [01:28:04] of what we're proposing. [01:28:07] The next one that we have is the Sims Park boat ramp area [01:28:10] improvements. [01:28:12] You'll notice that this, or you're [01:28:13] aware this project has been on here for a while [01:28:16] on several past CIPs. [01:28:19] This is because there was a lot of elements [01:28:21] that were involved, mainly the property acquisitions of the two [01:28:25] properties to the north. [01:28:28] We didn't want to commit the funds [01:28:29] to do some of the upgrades to the existing boat ramp [01:28:34] if we didn't know exactly how many pieces of property [01:28:37] we were going to acquire, what we were going to be able to do. [01:28:41] So now with the acquisition of those properties, [01:28:43] I think we're going to be able to move forward. [01:28:45] And you're going to see where we have our meetings [01:28:50] to where we can discuss. [01:28:51] We can get your input on what you all are looking for [01:28:55] and then start that engineering process. [01:28:57] Just a little flash. [01:28:59] Some people are talking to me about south on Lincoln [01:29:03] that we have all these signs around that area that [01:29:06] says you can't park your boat trailer there. [01:29:09] But they're parking going now since they figured out [01:29:11] that there's no signs going down Lincoln. [01:29:14] They're parking down Lincoln. [01:29:18] Because it's scallop season in Portland. [01:29:21] Well, it's summertime. [01:29:22] You're just going to see more boats, too. [01:29:26] I'm not saying we need to do it, but it [01:29:28] needs to be looked at and judged. [01:29:32] The following item is the Cody River boat ramp. [01:29:34] This is that project that we've all been talking about. [01:29:37] That's a partnership between the city and Pasco County [01:29:41] that the construction of a redevelopment of a property [01:29:44] located on the southwest corner of US 19 and Pier Road. [01:29:48] It also would include some accessory retail [01:29:52] along with residential development. [01:30:00] In that area. [01:30:00] Is that hotel going then? [01:30:05] Yes. [01:30:07] Going out the same way it came in? [01:30:10] If you weren't here, it came in on a truck. [01:30:15] They were all built, and they just plotted them in and then plugged them in. [01:30:19] Oh, my. [01:30:21] So your next project is the streetscape improvements at Florimar Terrace. [01:30:27] Greg has been involved with this project and a lot of discussions [01:30:32] that him and the city manager and I've had, [01:30:35] trying to have that entryway on the south end of town [01:30:41] as well as the north end of town. [01:30:42] You have one now at Main Street, but there really [01:30:46] needs to be some type of embellishments that's going [01:30:49] to let the people know that you've arrived. [01:30:52] We've got the construction, the private construction, [01:30:55] of the Aqua Hotel and Harbor Hotel over there. [01:31:00] So there's a lot of things happening. [01:31:02] There is the FDOT multi-use path. [01:31:07] There's our multi-use path that is there. [01:31:10] So this project proposes to take and utilize that area [01:31:14] to be able to enhance that frontage road that's there, [01:31:19] do some landscaping, some multi-use improvements along there, [01:31:25] to where we can really designate that spot as an entryway into the city. [01:31:33] I see that's almost, what is that, $1.5 million in future years [01:31:37] for construction? [01:31:38] Correct. [01:31:40] That's just for parking, landscaping, decorative lighting, and irrigation. [01:31:43] That doesn't include new signage or anything like that? [01:31:48] What type of signage are you talking about? [01:31:51] Oh, like the one off of Main Street? [01:31:53] I don't think that we've talked about doing that type of signage. [01:31:58] But it did. [01:31:59] It'd be the digital one, too. [01:32:00] We're not looking to do a digital one. [01:32:02] Not that large sign. [01:32:03] Not at this point, but we haven't completed design at this. [01:32:05] Correct. [01:32:07] Everything's preliminary. [01:32:09] And we would be coming forward with it. [01:32:11] A good example would be tonight when you see us with the streetscape, [01:32:16] you're going to do this. [01:32:17] We're going to do the same thing with this project. [01:32:20] You guys will see it right at the beginning [01:32:22] and be able to give us input on the different options that you would like. [01:32:26] The mayor, for example, when he was just council in the past, [01:32:31] he has expressed concern, and maybe that's changed over. [01:32:34] Sometimes engineering comes to us, and we want changes, [01:32:37] and that adds costs because you already finalized engineering. [01:32:41] So I'm just trying to get ahead of that a little bit by figuring out [01:32:46] what that initial, because for example, tonight, tape tonight, for example, [01:32:49] if we decide we don't like the design or we want to make some major change, [01:32:53] that brings, that takes us a step back, correct? [01:32:57] Not at this stage. [01:32:59] At this stage, we can present to you this concept. [01:33:04] You guys can get together. [01:33:05] You can say, hey, this is what I like. [01:33:08] Can you add this? [01:33:09] Can you take that out? [01:33:10] And as a group, if you decide that, then we go back to the drawing board. [01:33:15] We do that option that you guys have talked about. [01:33:18] You take a look at it, and then if you say, you know what? [01:33:21] Yeah, we really like this, then we start. [01:33:24] Correct. [01:33:25] Perfect. [01:33:25] I didn't know if that was going to add more engineering costs, so great. [01:33:35] And so the last item that we have here is the bicycle lane improvements. [01:33:40] This is basically what we would call the implementation of a shared use [01:33:46] network throughout the city. [01:33:48] It's going to be a survey or analysis to where [01:33:51] we can identify those roadway networks that [01:33:54] can have these types of bicycle lanes, shared use roadways to where [01:34:00] we can connect everything together within the city's network. [01:34:04] And that concludes the CRA fund, if anybody has any questions. [01:34:20] The next fund we're going to be looking at [01:34:22] is going to be the street improvement fund. [01:34:24] This is fund 701. [01:34:26] And this is the street improvement fund. [01:34:29] This is going to be the street improvement fund. [01:34:31] This is fund 701. [01:34:34] First item that we're going to be looking at is the traffic sign upgrades. [01:34:39] You'll see that this is a year-over-year allocation funding, [01:34:42] and this project is the continuation of upgrades for our traffic signs [01:34:49] and posts in the downtown and Palm District areas, [01:34:52] as well as any major thoroughfares to the decorative antique design. [01:35:00] The next item is the neighborhood improvement project. [01:35:06] This will be the continuation of what you saw on the North River Road project. [01:35:11] This, however, will be consisting of the South River Road. [01:35:15] The scope work for this project will be the milling and resurfacing [01:35:18] and that road diet that you've seen, narrowing of the existing roadway. [01:35:24] In addition, it will include the installation [01:35:25] of a five-foot sidewalk system on the west side of River Road, [01:35:29] heading south from Main Street to South Road. [01:35:34] This project also involves the removal of some of the utility poles [01:35:38] that you see in the area and the installation of landscape and hardscape,

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   Review of Proposed Departmental Budgets for FY24-25

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   Public Works staff presented FY24-25 CIP street improvement projects (LED crosswalks, striping, alley improvements, Grand Neighborhood sidewalks, and street resurfacing on Grand Blvd, Marine Pkwy, Florida Ave, Pennsylvania Ave, Harrison St, and Polk St). Council then reviewed proposed budgets for City Council, City Manager, and City Clerk departments, directing staff to keep the Cultural Affairs allocation at $12,000, correct errors in the City Manager budget (car allowance and misallocated education incentive), and add narrative descriptions clarifying split-funded positions like the City Attorney.

   • direction:Council directed staff to keep the Cultural Affairs budget at $12,000 (rather than reducing to $10,000) to give the board another year to promote use of the funds. (none)
   • direction:Council directed staff to correct the City Manager budget by fixing the car allowance ($6,000, not $4,500) and removing the misallocated education incentive, reallocating it to the City Clerk position. (none)
   • direction:Council directed staff to add narrative descriptions in budget pages clarifying positions funded from multiple sources (e.g., City Attorney funded via CRA). (none)

   📍Florida Avenue from Madison Street to Harrison Street📍Grand Boulevard from Sims Lane to Broadway Avenue📍Harrison Street from Old Main to Indiana Avenue📍Main Street and Van Buren📍Marine Parkway from US-19 to Grand Boulevard📍Nebraska Avenue south to Louisiana Avenue and Madison Street west to Rio Drive📍Pennsylvania Avenue from Madison Street to Congress Street📍Polk Street from Old Main Street to Indiana Avenue📍southwest corner of Adams Street and Florida Avenue🏢Chasco🏢Cotee River Bike Fest🏢Gravity🏢Manifest👤Andy Beiger👤Crystal👤Debbie👤Driscoll👤Greg Orbach👤Judy👤Kelly#20-Year Pavement Management Plan#701 Street Improvement Fund#CIP draft page 64#CRA budget#Codebook updates#FY24-25 Budget#Gas Option Tax#Grand Neighborhood Sidewalk Improvement#Half-cent Sales Tax#LED Crosswalk Signage and Lighting Project#Local Government Half-Cent Sales Tax / Local Revenue Sharing#Neighborhood Alley Improvement#Neighborhood Sidewalk Improvement Program#Public Art Fund

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   [01:35:42] as well as improved lighting and the installation of decorative traffic [01:35:45] poles with upgraded traffic signs attached. [01:35:49] Next project you'll see is the LED crosswalk signage and lighting. [01:35:53] Again, this is a year-over-year project [01:35:56] where we are continuing to improve throughout the city. [01:36:00] This next year, this project will include the installation [01:36:03] of the LED crosswalk system at Main Street and Van Buren. [01:36:08] Is it going to be able to... [01:36:10] We'll have all four sides. [01:36:13] I saw that coming. [01:36:15] You only need two. [01:36:16] Does that one need four sides? [01:36:18] No, you only need two. [01:36:19] I thought I'd just jump out on that one. [01:36:22] Really, it's a north-south problem, not an east-west problem. [01:36:27] So the project will be the installation of the LED crosswalk system [01:36:33] So the next item you'll see is the roadway and parking lot striping program. [01:36:43] So this is just the striping at the City Hall complex parking areas [01:36:49] and the city-owned parking lot on the southwest corner of Adams Street [01:36:54] and Florida Avenue. [01:36:56] As you see, again, many of these projects will be year-over-year projects [01:37:01] as we continue to try and maintain and improve throughout the city. [01:37:11] The next project you'll see is the neighborhood alley improvement. [01:37:16] This project involves the implementing of various improvements [01:37:20] in the city's 5.2 miles of alleyways. [01:37:24] An existing condition analysis was conducted back in June of 2019 [01:37:29] and identified items in need of improvement. [01:37:32] This would include clearing, cutting vegetation, and surface grading [01:37:37] as well as identifying the limits of the right-of-ways. [01:37:40] So the survey was completed and staff is currently working with property owners [01:37:45] to vacate the identified right-of-ways of conflict areas. [01:37:50] City Council will need to continue to receive some of the input from residents [01:37:57] so we can make those improvements and alley embellishments continue into the future. [01:38:11] The next project you'll see here is the Grand Neighborhood Sidewalk Improvement. [01:38:17] This includes the 10,602 linear feet of new sidewalks [01:38:25] where none currently exist. [01:38:28] We found there are existing gaps between sidewalks in the east and west Grand Neighborhoods [01:38:33] from Nebraska Avenue south to Louisiana Avenue and Madison Street west to Rio Drive. [01:38:39] The purpose of this project is to ensure student safety [01:38:44] and to continue to promote that walkable city that we're going for [01:38:50] and promote a healthy lifestyle. [01:38:56] The next item you'll see is the Neighborhood Sidewalk Improvement Program. [01:39:03] This program includes the removal and replacement of deficient sidewalks [01:39:08] as well as the establishment of infill sidewalks in neighborhoods where needed. [01:39:13] So this year we've identified, based on the City's Pavement Management Plan, [01:39:18] the Heights neighborhood and the infilling in the north Grand Neighborhood. [01:39:33] The following item is the Street Improvement Project. [01:39:37] This is a part of the 20-Year Pavement Management Plan. [01:39:41] This was created to improve and reinvigorate the City's roadway infrastructure. [01:39:50] The roadway improvements will include your asphalt overlays, your milling and resurfacing, [01:39:55] and road reconstruction. [01:39:58] The streets included in this year's project will be Grand Boulevard from Sims Lane to Broadway Avenue, [01:40:04] Marine Parkway from US-19 to Grand Boulevard, [01:40:07] Florida Avenue from Madison Street to Harrison Street, [01:40:11] Pennsylvania Avenue from Madison Street to Congress Street, [01:40:15] Harrison Street from Old Main to Indiana Avenue, [01:40:19] and Polk Street from Old Main Street to Indiana Avenue. [01:40:28] Can we get a copy of those streets in this year's projects? [01:40:34] Because people ask. [01:40:36] And, I mean, I had to think real quickly. [01:40:40] Because you went one right after the other. [01:40:42] And I got the basic idea, but I won't remember it. [01:40:48] The streets are on these, by the way. [01:40:50] Oh, it's on here. [01:40:51] Yeah, it's on here. [01:40:52] Never mind if it's further. [01:40:53] If you just rip out those last five pages. [01:40:55] Okay. All right. Okay. [01:40:56] Never mind then. [01:40:57] Scratch it off. [01:40:58] I saw the Street Improvement Plan online, [01:41:01] but I couldn't find the alley study or whatever it was that was done. [01:41:07] Is there any way that can be sent over? [01:41:14] We'll get it to you. [01:41:18] Another question about the alleys is, [01:41:20] is any kind of asphalt or paving going to be included in that? [01:41:27] Or is that going to be based on the neighborhood and the residents? [01:41:31] Correct. [01:41:32] It's going to be based on the individual characteristics of the neighborhood [01:41:35] and input from the residents. [01:41:37] And I imagine some probably do, some probably don't. [01:41:40] Correct. [01:41:41] Which page is that? [01:41:43] The last five pages or so. [01:41:46] Like page 96. [01:41:48] Okay. [01:41:49] No, I meant like 63. [01:41:51] No, 65. [01:41:52] 65. [01:41:53] 65, 64, 63, and 66. [01:41:56] Oh, I'm looking over here. [01:41:57] It says page 96. [01:41:58] It starts on 63, and then if you just rip that out to the back, [01:42:01] those are all the streets. [01:42:02] 64. [01:42:03] If you want the specific improvement project where I called out the streets, [01:42:07] that'll be found on page 64 of the CIP draft. [01:42:10] 64. [01:42:11] Oh, okay. [01:42:12] Okay, that's what I'm looking for. [01:42:13] Okay. [01:42:14] Yes, sir. [01:42:15] Okay. [01:42:16] And the final item here is the 2024-2025 Street Improvement Project. [01:42:23] And, again, this is a part of our 20-year pavement management plan. [01:42:27] These areas will be identified by the consultant, [01:42:30] and staff will sit down and review those [01:42:33] and put that together as far as our pavement management plan goes. [01:42:37] So with that, that concludes the 701 Street Improvement Fund. [01:42:42] If you have any questions, I'm open. [01:42:44] I have a question, but it's really not for you guys, [01:42:47] but maybe Director Debbie, she can work with Crystal on it. [01:42:51] Gas option tax, with all the improvements downtown in the last 10 years, [01:42:57] I just wonder what kind of monies we're making by the customers [01:43:01] that are more people coming downtown and buying gas from our gas stations. [01:43:05] And so I think that, in a sense, [01:43:07] it would show us a growth in the business downtown [01:43:10] if we could just track the gas option tax. [01:43:13] Okay. [01:43:14] Just a little flash, if we look back over the last 10 years and said, [01:43:18] hey, we got this amount of money, we got this, [01:43:20] just to see if it matches the growth that we've done downtown. [01:43:23] Okay. [01:43:24] I mean, there's a lot of gas stations. [01:43:26] You know, on the edge, there's three or four on the edge of downtown, [01:43:30] but then I understand there's others out there [01:43:33] which also might reflect on the growth in the last couple of years [01:43:37] of people coming from up north and moving to Pasco County. [01:43:39] We'll look at that shortly. [01:43:40] Yeah, but I would just like to kind of see what's happening. [01:43:44] On that topic, is the gas tax one of the ones where we get it [01:43:49] based off of, like, it's given to the county [01:43:51] and it's dippied up by the population, [01:43:53] or are we getting an exact amount based on use? [01:43:57] If you get a question, you can probably explain it better. [01:44:08] The amount is allocated. [01:44:09] We receive that annually. [01:44:11] We know exactly the amount that we're going to receive for one and two. [01:44:14] Right, but what's the – I know you pull it up on here, [01:44:16] but how do you calculate that? [01:44:18] Is it based on our population, or is it based on, like, [01:44:20] the mayor saying actual use in buying gas? [01:44:24] It's an allocation from the state. [01:44:27] It's the amount of roads that get paved. [01:44:29] The road pavement. [01:44:33] That's not going to give us a reflection on – [01:44:36] never mind, it's not going to give us a reflection [01:44:38] on what I was looking for. [01:44:39] Correct. [01:44:41] Yeah, never mind, then that's not what I'm looking for. [01:44:48] I thought it came – I thought it had to do with the amount of gas [01:44:50] that was sold in our city limits. [01:45:00] Judy you get two for two, I'll tell you what. I told her that's the person to ask [01:45:06] because she knows. [01:45:09] Well the next item on the agenda, if you're ready Mr. Mayor we can move on to [01:45:36] the review of budgets. And the first item I have for you is a review of the City [01:45:44] Council budget. The budget instructions that were issued to the departments this [01:45:54] year were to keep your budgets within 3% of your previous year's expenditures. And [01:46:06] as of today we were still, or yesterday they started to release some revenue [01:46:12] figures, the state to us. I don't know that all of them have been released yet. [01:46:17] Three. Three have been released. One did go down a tad from last year, but they're [01:46:22] preliminary numbers. How many? We have the, I'll have to look again, I know we have the [01:46:29] municipal. No, no, not which three, but if there's three, is it three out of six, three out of four? [01:46:34] Well yesterday it was local revenue sharing, the half cent sales tax. Actually it's just the two [01:46:41] because the other is the county share. Okay, so that's what. You just said we [01:46:47] only received three, I don't know what. Three preliminary figures and they can be [01:46:52] adjusted. Okay. So absent that, we are presenting for you three budgets this [01:47:01] evening, the City Council, the City Manager, and the City Clerk. The budgeted [01:47:07] amount for 24-25 for the City Council budget shows an increase in professional [01:47:16] services that is due to the fact that we have hired a professional lobbyist and [01:47:27] so we're reflecting that in our professional services line item. We are [01:47:34] up slightly in travel and training in the council budget to reflect some [01:47:43] additional training opportunities and there is a proposed increase of $5,000 [01:47:56] in special events. Special events are those which are annualized special [01:48:08] events that we provide in-kind contributions to and that is Chasco and [01:48:15] Cody River Bike Fest, the Christmas Parade, and the city's annual fireworks [01:48:22] celebration. How much does what cost? The fireworks show, the [01:48:32] display itself, was I think it was $12,000 as I recall. I have [01:48:41] recommended a reduction in the budget for cultural affairs. Their budget last [01:48:47] year was $12,000. They've only spent about half of that this year, so I'm [01:48:54] recommending we reduce their budget to $10,000. [01:49:00] Recommending a small reduction in office supplies to $800 [01:49:08] and a small increase of $400 to books and publications to reflect the fact [01:49:19] that some of the publications have increased subscription costs. With that [01:49:25] being said, the recommended budget for 24-25 is in the amount of $362,780 [01:49:33] and I'm prepared to respond to any questions you may have related to your [01:49:38] budget. Did the concerts come out of the special events or is the... No, not out of this [01:49:43] budget. Okay, and then the data lines, is that, I'm not familiar with that, is that email or [01:49:55] what is that for? That relates to the internet. And then culture affairs, I know [01:50:09] about halfway through this year you had the chance with Greg Orbach to go and [01:50:15] speak with them or someone from staff spoke with them and that was [01:50:19] partially because they weren't aware of how much they had budgeted or the uses [01:50:24] of it. Do you think that might have reflected the fact that they only got [01:50:28] to about six out of their twelve? No, I don't. Okay. They were interested [01:50:33] specifically in the public art fund and that was the purpose of our attendance [01:50:39] at their meeting. I think that a lot of what they do is rely on events to come [01:50:49] before them and ask for support and only manifest really presented [01:50:55] themselves last year and so that was the only event that they supported. So is [01:51:01] that us? So who should, who like, who would reach out to these events? Culture [01:51:09] Affairs Board itself? Us? You? Your staff? It's their task to organize events. Who's the [01:51:19] representative from the staff on the Culture Affairs Board? The person with the most [01:51:24] contact I would assume is the special events coordinator. If someone's [01:51:28] coming and wanting to propose an event, so should that person be staffed with [01:51:32] saying, hey if you want an in-kind sponsorship, like is that staff [01:51:37] member aware? There's two different things. Okay. And let me... My question first, who's [01:51:42] the staff member on the Culture Affairs Board? Andy Beiger. I mean just [01:51:49] wondering if it might not be somewhat, hey you guys need to reach out a little bit. [01:51:55] Andy is bringing them some programming opportunities. Okay. And looking for some others. [01:52:02] Culture Affairs is only for a city. It's not for in-kind, it's not for use by, by [01:52:08] say someone comes with a special event and they want to do an art exhibit as a [01:52:12] part of their special event, they can't reach out to the Culture Affairs for [01:52:15] support? I'm sorry, I have to ask you to repeat the beginning of that. Okay, so the [01:52:21] the Culture Affairs fund is only for use for public events like the film [01:52:29] festival we're putting on. Correct. So if someone's going to the special events [01:52:34] process, a private business, and they have a Culture Affairs element like [01:52:39] Main Street, they can't ask the Culture Affairs for money? Oh, they could. They [01:52:43] could. So my question, piggybacking off of the mayor, is, and correct me if I'm [01:52:48] wrong, but there isn't a library representative, there isn't someone from [01:52:51] the library at the set meetings. Well, that's Andy. Right, but she's not in on [01:52:56] special events meetings. So my thought is, how is she supposed to be able to have [01:53:02] her staff promote the Culture Affairs budget to special events if there's [01:53:07] nobody from that department in the conversations? Who handles, who directs and handles special events then? [01:53:13] They chair it, but there are a number of other departments in attendance and we [01:53:21] could probably do a better job really marketing that opportunity to some of [01:53:31] the special events that present themselves to sets. You're saying there's six [01:53:38] grand left over. It doesn't carry forward, you know, so... Well, it does roll over to [01:53:43] the next fiscal year. So you're gonna say there's 12 grand available, 18 grand [01:53:49] available this year? It doesn't roll over to that fund, it rolls over in the city's [01:53:53] general fund. Right, right, okay, but okay, that's what I'm saying. So, you know, okay, [01:53:57] understand it's not... They don't have to spend it all. They don't, but yeah, but it's, we're trying to promote those kinds of things. [01:54:05] Mayor, to my point, in my mind, if you keep it at 12, if they only spent [01:54:11] six, you're not really losing that additional two. So is there any way we can [01:54:16] keep it at 12, give them this year to see if they can't promote it in [01:54:20] coordination with our staff, and then go from there for next year and go, look, [01:54:24] they still only spent six with the help of the special events coordinator, and [01:54:29] it just, it couldn't happen. So now let's lower it. Yeah, that, let's, let's, let's, [01:54:34] let's, because what we're saying is we're not, you just said we're not doing a good [01:54:38] job of really promoting it, you know, this fund, so let's leave it at 12 and see [01:54:42] what we can do next year, because we just brought up different ways that we can [01:54:45] promote using it, you know, special events, and you can do it with the [01:54:50] culture affairs board. So, yeah, let's leave it at 12. We sure can. [01:54:57] Because that would, that would, uh, you know, because we're admitting guilt ourselves a [01:55:03] little bit, taking the money away. Give them another year to try, and if they can't, then. [01:55:10] Don't, don't come looking for 15. [01:55:14] The next budget is the city manager's budget, and there is an error, which I [01:55:40] should note, which Crystal's pointing to, she's noted it too. I'm thinking. You can [01:55:47] see, she could say it. The education? No. [01:55:51] What are you looking at? This is wrong. [01:56:01] There are two errors. The first error is the car allowance is $6,000 annually, and [01:56:10] it's noted as $4,500. The second error is that there's an education incentive [01:56:16] noted, and there is no education incentive associated with my position. [01:56:23] Do health insurance really go down? The education incentive is a prorated [01:56:31] amount for the prorated exempt salary that's also within this budget for the [01:56:37] assistant to city manager. So this position receives an education incentive, [01:56:44] and it's prorating it, so we can, it really should be classified to the city [01:56:50] clerk's position and not to the assistant city manager's position. [01:56:56] Move it, move it, move it. So that should be zero? It will be. And then Kelly, you had a good question. Did the health insurance really go down? [01:57:10] Because we don't know what our health insurance numbers are yet, we're just [01:57:15] estimating them for purposes of the budget. Estimating it down? Oh I see, it's [01:57:22] pretty different every year. Yeah it's all been going up really. So the estimate [01:57:31] for 24 seems high. It will come in lower. The actual amount for the health [01:57:37] insurance, for the prorated amount for both positions, we're estimating at 12,000. [01:57:41] So this budget was populated from Gravity, the new budgeting software, which [01:57:46] actually budgets across the two departments that both positions are [01:57:52] allocated from. So remember the city manager's budget is here, she's also [01:57:56] budgeted in the CRA, and then we have the city clerk and the city clerk's budget, [01:58:01] and then a portion of her time is also allocated to this department. My [01:58:07] question still, I still have Kelly's question, which is even, I mean nothing's [01:58:11] changed between the CRA this year and last year, so the change is that, the [01:58:15] change is that the software re-estimated it elsewhere? Correctly. Okay. Yes, more [01:58:21] accurately. Okay. Travel and training budget is higher by $500, and all of [01:58:39] the other charges are pretty consistent with previous years expenditures. The [01:58:47] total budget is increased by $8,750 over the 23-24 budget, and [01:58:58] Kristal and I can respond to questions that you might have. Can we just note on [01:59:03] here somewhere, I don't know if it's, for the sake of transparency, is there any [01:59:09] way to note, like with a footnote by the department head salary, that salaries are [01:59:15] also, for all of these, I know like, and that was my actually my question for the [01:59:19] other one, a city attorney for example, it's my understanding that the city [01:59:22] attorney is paid out of the CRA and? Correct. So is there a way for those type [01:59:26] of positions that we could put a footnote that says funded from multiple [01:59:31] sources, or it does not reflect full salary, or does, because it's just, it, for [01:59:36] someone who's reading this and doesn't understand that, they're gonna think that [01:59:40] city attorney gets paid $90,000 a year, and that's not necessarily [01:59:44] transparent for our citizens. Until they look at the CRA budget. If they know to look at [01:59:50] the CRA budget, which we can suggest by putting a footnote that says that. [01:59:56] This first page shows 75%. Yeah, it has a percent. [02:00:00] next to them. We can do that, yeah. It shows the percentage of the budget that's there. [02:00:04] It's the percentage of their... Is that is that the percentage of salary? [02:00:09] Is that the percentage of the full-time equivalent position? Which is all of it. [02:00:14] Percentage. Yeah. So then the other the other one would say .25? [02:00:18] Okay. The final budget I have to present to you to keep Judy on schedule is the [02:00:32] city clerk's budget, which is completely consistent with what's been requested in [02:00:48] previous years with the exception of the fact that we're projecting some [02:00:57] codebook updates and so we increased that by $3,000 this year to $7,000. All of [02:01:10] the other expenditures are the same with the... They are all the same with the [02:01:19] exception that we don't have professional services this year. So her [02:01:23] budget comes in lower than the previous year. I'm sorry, just going back to my [02:01:30] previous question. The city attorney's fee, is that attorney driscoll or is that [02:01:37] other fees? That is Driscoll exclusively. So when you look at City Council, it does [02:01:42] not list a full-time equivalent page. So again, what I don't think it would be it [02:01:49] would hurt anyone just to put a footnote that says look to the CRA for the [02:01:53] additional equivalent or for the remainder that's missing. So just to [02:01:58] clarify my point, 4-3... Oh, for city attorney, it doesn't say city attorney, but when you turn [02:02:03] the page... Because no one is an employee, so that wouldn't be... It's like a [02:02:09] contractual thing, right? Right. So to get around that for transparency, does it [02:02:13] hurt to just put a footnote? I do the same thing with Judy too, because I think [02:02:22] in under a city clerk, it just says 25%. We know the other job she does, [02:02:30] but for anyone who's reading the budget, I assume it's not too many positions that are [02:02:36] split up like that. Okay, okay. I think the best way to do it is to just describe it [02:02:49] in the description page for each budget in the narratives. That way it's out [02:02:55] there, out front, and it doesn't get overly confusing.

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5. 5Adjournment