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CRA BoardThu, Mar 28, 2024

CRA approved a $213,240 redevelopment grant to Missouri Grand LLC for the former Dulcet building at 6220 Grand Boulevard and a $150,000 change order adding a monument sign and courtyard to the Main Street Entry Feature.

8 items on the agenda · 5 decisions recorded

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    FY2022-2023 Annual Report

    discussed

    CRA staff presented the FY2022-2023 Annual Report, summarizing $340,356 in business grants to nine businesses, capital projects, ongoing redevelopment efforts, and financial highlights including CRA taxable values nearly doubling from $448M (2014) to $869M (2023). Board members provided commentary on rent reimbursement limitations, Leisure Lane/Van Doren being outside CRA boundaries, balance sheet inventory accounting concerns, and the need for a new landscape ordinance. Public comment was received complimenting the report.

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    [00:00:00] Business and developer incentive grants were designed to leverage and provide capital investments [00:00:10] into the commercial properties. [00:00:13] The CRA aided nine different businesses, expending a total of $340,356 during the fiscal year [00:00:21] with five different types of grants, those being the developer incentives and commercial [00:00:26] interior buildout, commercial façade improvements, commercial real estate redevelopment and commercial [00:00:33] rent reimbursement. [00:00:37] Some of the businesses are highlighted here. [00:00:38] We have the Suncoast Salon Suites and Backdrafts, Patriot Stogies, Crafts by Kathleen, the Thomas [00:00:51] Meehan Parking Lot. [00:00:54] Parking lot improvements were completed at this location, which provides for additional [00:00:58] parking for the visitors in the downtown area. [00:01:01] The U.S. Highway 19, the staff continues to focus on potential assemblages for these two [00:01:07] properties that are highlighted here. [00:01:09] Others are in the area, but the items here, the locations here, the car wash and the previously [00:01:18] occupied location, the Breeze 19. [00:01:23] Capital projects during the fiscal year, we had two in a property assemblage. [00:01:30] Those projects, one is continuing, or actually both are continuing, the U.S. Highway 19 Main [00:01:36] Street Gateway Project and the Railroad Square Improvements. [00:01:41] The ongoing redevelopment projects, we have the U.S. 19 Corridor to the Cody River Underpass, [00:01:50] the former SunTrust and River Road property, and you can see there, it's highlighted in [00:01:55] red, U.S. Highway 19 and Main Street Entryway signage, which everyone is probably familiar [00:02:04] with now. [00:02:06] We have the Magnuson Hotel, and that area is highlighted in red also. [00:02:13] Leisure Lane, Van Doren Avenue area, a map of that property is also highlighted for you. [00:02:24] The downtown, we continue with the Railroad Square Improvements and vacant property on [00:02:32] Main Street, just south of the Hacienda Hotel. [00:02:37] The Palm District, the highlighted property here is the Montemayor property, which was [00:02:42] recently acquired. [00:02:44] The boat ramp, the parking lot, and the Chamber of Commerce also. [00:02:51] We continue to work with developers in the area. [00:02:54] A few highlighted here, those being Seafire Grill and The Central. [00:03:01] In the Marine District, the former community hospital site, we also have the former Schwetman [00:03:08] Education Center, and then other various vacant underutilized properties in the area. [00:03:20] Financial report highlights here, the total revenues for the CRA were $3,015,058, and [00:03:27] the expenditures totaled $1,452,529. [00:03:34] We have transfers in of $3,185,340 and transfers out to other funds of $2,295,740. [00:03:52] Total assets of the CRA, $2,772,803, and liabilities totaled $7,230,753. [00:04:07] Then you'll see here the CRA taxable values have risen from 2014 to 2023, it's hard to [00:04:13] see here, but the actual amounts in 2014 were noted as $448,000,000. [00:04:21] And in 2023, we're at $869,000,000, which nearly doubled since 2014. [00:04:29] That concludes the summary of the report. [00:04:30] If you have any questions, I'm prepared to answer. [00:04:34] Questions? [00:04:35] Go ahead. [00:04:36] Yeah, a couple of comments. [00:04:42] First of all, in your listing of uses of funds and grants, you indicated commercial rent [00:04:50] reimbursement. [00:04:51] And again, I want to reiterate that the current interpretations that have been generated to [00:04:58] us are that rent reimbursement programs are no longer favored under the statutes unless [00:05:05] the property that is owned and rent reimbursement is given or relief is on CRA-owned property. [00:05:14] So I think that was commented before, and so we did it, and the auditors are okay with [00:05:20] it generally, but I'm just pointing that out that I don't think that that's going to become [00:05:25] an ongoing project in that regard. [00:05:30] Secondly, the mention of the Leisure Lane project, which is a contemplated CRA project [00:05:38] in a CRA report, to me, it's not in a CRA. [00:05:42] It's not even in the city limits at this point, so I think it's a report to show what we've [00:05:50] done in the last year, and I'm expecting that we haven't spent any CRA dollars on that report [00:05:56] because we're not allowed to spend CRA dollars on anything outside of the CRA's boundaries. [00:06:02] So it's fine to reflect it that it's a planned report, but it really probably is not an action [00:06:09] report at this point, and we'll need to do a finding of blight and all of those things [00:06:13] to bring it into the district if that is the intention. [00:06:20] And then finally, on the balance sheet, this was an issue of much dissatisfaction internally [00:06:28] in the City Hall as well as debate with the auditors when the City purchased the Baptist [00:06:36] Church on the Circle, and we demolished it, and you may recall, but we had quite a discussion [00:06:45] at the time about the fact that that property was inventory for the purposes of getting [00:06:53] it back into private hands and on the tax roll. [00:06:56] And so because it was inventory, we had to follow the lower-of-cost-or-market approach, [00:07:04] and we wrote down the value of the real estate. [00:07:08] So in just about everything that we do in real estate, we book it at its cost and we [00:07:14] don't worry about its market value, but because the SunTrust property is going to be a – turn [00:07:22] into a private project, the land was held for inventory. [00:07:30] And so I don't know when we did the demolition or when the 2023 audit is going, but I would [00:07:37] ask that you look back to the notes of how we treated the Baptist Church. [00:07:42] So it doesn't hurt to show that the CRA has a negative equity, and if you look back [00:07:48] at the balance sheet, you'll see that – and it concerns folks who normally look [00:07:53] at balance sheets to see that they're in the hole, that we have a negative equity. [00:07:57] In fact, I know at the time Commissioner Moore came because we had such a large equity position [00:08:04] until we pointed out that it was a negative equity position because we actually removed [00:08:09] value in order to create new value. [00:08:13] And so I think it's an important topic that maybe, just as it's in the report, what [00:08:19] the balance sheet is might be one to have some conversation with. [00:08:29] That's all. [00:08:33] Yeah, Crystal, would you go back to slide 11, please, for just a moment to put that [00:08:36] up real quick? [00:08:37] Page 11, I think it was. [00:08:39] Which one are you specifically looking for? [00:08:43] It was the covered-in photo. [00:08:51] Page 11. [00:08:55] So, okay. [00:08:56] So, hey, nice hotel. [00:08:58] I'm glad it's where it is, and it's already – I think it's operating successfully, [00:09:05] and I'm glad that that project came to fruition there. [00:09:10] But, as CRA, I just have to take an opportunity here to encourage our CRA board members here, [00:09:21] maybe you can encourage the City Council. [00:09:23] This is a great example of why they need to take action to move along and get a new landscape [00:09:32] ordinance in place. [00:09:34] So, while there is some landscape added to this prior to this completely, but it is an [00:09:41] example you drive by that just doesn't – you know, if you think about it and say, hey, [00:09:48] that's a nice hotel, but you look at it twice, you look at it again and go, where's [00:09:52] all the landscape? [00:09:53] So, and I think it'll be even that more apparent when the landscape is finished along [00:10:01] the Main Street historic sign entrance. [00:10:04] So, I would encourage board members to encourage those council members you know to do that. [00:10:12] Okay? [00:10:13] Also, then, on the next page, I guess it's two pages down, maybe three now, it was – I [00:10:22] think it was appropriate to put the Leisure Landing Van Dorn slide in there, the fact [00:10:27] that it's a report of what was taking place and the agreement that the city made with [00:10:34] the county, part of that agreement was calls for that property to be added to the CRA. [00:10:40] Even though it hasn't been done yet, the part of the agreement said that it would eventually [00:10:46] be there, so I think it's appropriate to have that in the report. [00:10:49] Other than that, I think it's a nice report. [00:10:52] Thank you. [00:10:53] Yeah, just piggybacking a little bit off of what they're saying about the Leisure Lane [00:10:57] and Van Dorn, you know, maybe for those types of projects, things that we haven't, you [00:11:01] know, maybe it's a, you know, projects that haven't quite got to the finish line yet, [00:11:06] you know, as far as starting, but maybe put them in the back or something so we have an [00:11:10] idea of what's coming. [00:11:11] So that way, I mean, because I kind of like to know what, you know, what's in the hopper [00:11:15] and what's, you know, kind of what we've started or proposed to work on, like this [00:11:23] one, you know, we've done a lot of work on the Leisure Lane and Van Dorn this year, but [00:11:29] that one and maybe some others that we can note and put in the end at, you know, up and [00:11:34] coming or something, I don't know. [00:11:36] It's long range goals, and so, you know, it's more knowledge than necessarily in the report [00:11:43] itself, so I kind of agree with that, but like I said, it doesn't really fit in the [00:11:47] report, but, you know, as an addition, you know, what we're looking at down the road. [00:11:52] And if you'll allow me, Mr. Mayor, Leisure Lane and Van Dorn, as a project, has been [00:11:57] in our CRA plan since 2019. [00:12:00] This is just a placeholder for a future project, and it's, and one of the reasons that it's [00:12:08] noted in this section of the CRA update is that it's a project that hasn't been implemented [00:12:16] yet, along with the other projects in that section, but it's one that we recognize as [00:12:22] a goal of the CRA to address, and one that we would like to include in the boundaries [00:12:30] of our CRA district. [00:12:31] It's the same as the chamber and that property there, too. [00:12:34] Correct. [00:12:35] Yeah. [00:12:38] Anything else? [00:12:40] Do you need a motion to approve it? [00:12:42] Open up to the public for discussion? [00:12:44] Yeah. [00:12:45] Any other public that would like to come up and comment, please? [00:12:49] Come now. [00:12:54] Good evening. [00:12:55] Mary Beth Isaacson, 8805 Forest Lake Drive in New Port Richey. [00:12:59] I'm a volunteer with the Ritchie Community Orchestra, and I'm also a member of the Pasco [00:13:04] County Cultural Affairs Advisory Council. [00:13:07] I wanted to compliment Ms. Dunn and her team for putting together a very beautiful report. [00:13:13] It was wonderful to see all the projects that have been completed in the city over this [00:13:18] fiscal year, and it really makes me proud to live in this community with all these wonderful [00:13:23] businesses and new things being developed in New Port Richey. [00:13:27] I was very pleased to see the historic Gulf High School building acknowledged as a potential [00:13:33] project in this report, and I hope that when we're here next year, we're going to see the [00:13:41] American Cultural Center mentioned as a completed project or a project that's in the works.

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    Main Street Entry Feature Project Change Order No. 1

    approved

    The CRA Board approved Change Order No. 1 to the Main Street Entry Feature Project to add construction of a monument sign with LED board, landscaping, and a public courtyard adjacent to the Kaiser University/Keenan development. The total alternate bid was negotiated down to $186,643; the change order is $150,000 (with cooperative funding from the developer), with the remaining $36,643 to be covered by the existing project owner's contingency. Motion passed 4-0.

    • motion:Approve Change Order No. 1 to the Main Street Entry Feature Project in the amount of $150,000, with $36,643 from the project's owner's contingency. (passed)40
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    [00:13:46] Thank you very much, and my compliments to all the city staff for all their hard work [00:13:50] they do. [00:13:51] It's very much appreciated. [00:13:52] Thank you. [00:13:54] Anybody else like to speak? [00:13:58] Seeing no one come back, we'll have a... [00:14:01] You're happy to move approval of the plan, of the update as presented? [00:14:06] To be submitted? [00:14:08] Second. [00:14:09] All those in favor? [00:14:10] Aye. [00:14:11] So we have a 4-0 vote. [00:14:14] Okay, moving on to the Main Street Entrance Feature Project. [00:14:19] Change order number one. [00:14:25] Thank you. [00:14:26] Mr. Rivera is prepared to present the agenda item, now that he's rustled back the clicker. [00:14:35] Thank you, Ms. Manns. [00:14:38] So, as you are aware, the Main Street Entry Feature was completed several weeks ago. [00:14:48] If you look over at the right side right here, the next phase of the project is the construction [00:14:56] of a monument sign with an LED board. [00:15:00] and landscaping. [00:15:02] This slide here shows you a little bit more detail [00:15:05] of the project and the positioning [00:15:07] of the different elements that are included in the project. [00:15:11] What I really wanted to let you know, [00:15:14] or wanted to discuss and remind you, [00:15:17] is during the acquisition of the Walgreens property [00:15:20] by the CRA, which is in this area [00:15:23] and goes a little bit further south, [00:15:26] the city, when they purchased it and they [00:15:29] went into negotiations with the keen end developers, [00:15:33] Kaiser University, the executive director of the CRA board [00:15:38] carved out a section of public area here for public use. [00:15:45] In addition to the public use purpose, [00:15:49] it was also thought that during the construction of the entry [00:15:53] way feature here, we might have to utilize more right of way [00:15:58] than what the city had back then, [00:16:01] as well as the monument sign here. [00:16:04] As it turns out, during the construction, [00:16:07] this monument sign is going to have [00:16:09] to shift back a little bit here to be more in line [00:16:13] with the entryway feature, so that we don't take away [00:16:18] from the entryway feature itself. [00:16:24] And so this one gives you a little bit more detail [00:16:27] of the public space that we would [00:16:30] utilize with the landscaping and the addition of a courtyard. [00:16:36] This is the conceptual rendering that you see. [00:16:39] And also wanted to note that while it [00:16:42] may seem that its sole purpose would [00:16:44] be for Kaiser University and the students [00:16:47] when they take a break to go over there, [00:16:50] it is a public space, which means [00:16:51] it would be utilized by anyone in the general public that [00:16:56] wanted to go over there. [00:16:58] And so the other thought process with the construction [00:17:00] of the courtyard and its usage would [00:17:03] be that the Rivergate Palm District right now [00:17:07] has the boat ramp by the river, or a person that maybe [00:17:11] is employed in this district at one of the businesses [00:17:14] has to cross the main street bridge [00:17:15] and go into Sims Park and maybe have lunch. [00:17:19] This is another public space here [00:17:21] on this side, the west side of the river, [00:17:24] that could be utilized for that purpose as well. [00:17:29] So how did we get here? [00:17:31] This project was a standalone project. [00:17:33] The courtyard was in your capital improvement program [00:17:37] that was presented last spring. [00:17:39] When we started looking at the entryway feature, [00:17:44] we said, well, why don't we go ahead and add this [00:17:46] as an alternate bid and see if we can go ahead and save [00:17:50] on some mobilization costs, some bid costs, [00:17:52] those types of elements that the contractor would also [00:17:59] have to bid on again if we did a standalone project. [00:18:02] So the alternate bid came in at $212,551.40. [00:18:09] Staff did get with Augustine Construction, [00:18:12] who you are very familiar with. [00:18:14] They've done several projects with the city. [00:18:17] We did go ahead and take, and because [00:18:20] of some of the adjustments that we had to do, [00:18:23] back down on some of the landscaping [00:18:25] as well as some of the features of the planners [00:18:28] and brought those down at a lower grade level [00:18:32] and was able to get the costs down to $186,643. [00:18:38] The change order that we're asking you to approve [00:18:41] is in the amount of $150,000. [00:18:44] That's with cooperative funding from the developer, Keenan, [00:18:48] and the university. [00:18:50] And the CRA were proposing would pick up the balance at $36,643. [00:18:59] And if you do remember, the entryway feature project [00:19:02] had a $50,000 owner's contingency. [00:19:05] We have not utilized a whole lot of that money. [00:19:10] We are at a point in the project where [00:19:12] we feel very confident that we would have a balance left over [00:19:16] to where we would be able to utilize the owner's [00:19:19] contingency at the $36,643. [00:19:23] So that would leave your change order at $150,000. [00:19:26] So with that, we would recommend approval of the change order. [00:19:30] And if you have any questions, we'll gladly answer them. [00:19:34] Do we have any public comment? [00:19:38] Seeing no one come forward, we'll bring it back to council. [00:19:43] Yes, Mayor, I'll make a motion that we [00:19:46] approve the change order. [00:19:49] Second. [00:19:52] Yeah, I think it's going to be just a really beautiful feature [00:19:59] for the entrance of our city and goes along with it. [00:20:02] I think we're all believing and encouraging [00:20:08] that side of Main Street, or I should say Main Street, [00:20:13] west of the river to redevelop. [00:20:16] And so I think it's time that we invest some city money [00:20:24] in there and encourage the private money to follow. [00:20:27] So for that, I'm in favor of it. [00:20:31] Yeah, that side over there, it's kind of been a long time [00:20:36] coming, starting to get some love over there. [00:20:38] We've got some projects that are coming up and this. [00:20:40] But there's one thing that I want to bring up. [00:20:43] And I know that I talked to Ms. Mays, [00:20:44] and I think we've all talked about it, [00:20:46] is just that conceptual drawing where [00:20:49] it shows all those lush trees and bushes. [00:20:53] And they're like nice, large size. [00:20:56] I mean, I would love to see, since we're spending the money, [00:21:00] so when it actually happens, I'd love [00:21:02] to see them that size starting out versus starting out little [00:21:06] and having to grow 10 years. [00:21:09] That's been a topic, and I'd really [00:21:10] love to see more lush landscaping, [00:21:14] just like the conceptual drawing looks like. [00:21:17] Kind of like when you see that. [00:21:18] More instant shade is what you're looking for. [00:21:22] And we have specced some mature plant materials [00:21:26] for the project. [00:21:27] And as part of the developer's contribution [00:21:32] to the project on city property, they've [00:21:35] also made a commitment to upgrade the landscaping [00:21:39] on the Kaiser property as well. [00:21:43] OK, awesome. [00:21:43] Awesome. [00:21:44] I know sometimes it looks like you [00:21:46] see a picture of a Big Mac at McDonald's, [00:21:47] and you get it home, and you look at it, [00:21:49] and you're like, I don't look like the same picture. [00:21:51] It's a little smaller. [00:21:55] Yeah, this is a good example of our investment [00:21:58] stimulating other investment in a prominent corner that's [00:22:02] gotten a lot of attention. [00:22:03] And I think the messaging, the message board that will go up [00:22:07] will be another good opportunity for information [00:22:13] to anyone who makes the turn or who's sitting there [00:22:16] at the light. [00:22:17] So glad to see it moving forward. [00:22:20] I just have to add that the town, since the sign went up, [00:22:24] it started to drool. [00:22:25] And if you go ahead and finish the corner itself, [00:22:27] then we'll have to get napkins and stuff. [00:22:30] But anyway, put them out at the benches that are there. [00:22:35] OK, all those in favor? [00:22:36] Aye. [00:22:37] Those opposed? [00:22:38] We have four zip. [00:22:41] OK, we're proposed redevelopment grant award, a Missouri grant.

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    Proposed Redevelopment Grant Award to Missouri Grand, LLC, for 6220 Grand BLVD

    approved

    The CRA Board approved a redevelopment grant award of up to $213,240 to Missouri Grand, LLC for the comprehensive redevelopment of the former Dulcet building at 6220 Grand Boulevard, a $2.3M+ project that converted the two-story building into a ground-floor restaurant (The Estuary) and modern second-floor office space. Staff and board praised the project as setting the standard for downtown redevelopment, and the motion passed.

    • motion:Motion to approve staff's recommendation to award a redevelopment grant of up to $213,240 to Missouri Grand, LLC for 6220 Grand Boulevard. (passed)
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    [00:22:49] We're going to have to buy two. [00:22:53] This is a request for a grant award to Missouri Grant. [00:22:58] And Mr. Auerbach will be presenting the agenda item. [00:23:02] And we have the applicant in attendance this evening. [00:23:08] Well, good evening, Mr. Chair, Deputy Chair, board members, [00:23:13] Madam Executive Director, team, and public. [00:23:16] Happy Easter, everybody. [00:23:17] Welcome to the Easter edition of the NPR CRA. [00:23:20] The request is for the CRA board's approval [00:23:23] of a redevelopment grant award of up to $213,240 [00:23:28] to Missouri Grant LLC. [00:23:30] As the executive director pointed out, [00:23:33] the leading managing member, Frank Starkey, [00:23:35] is in attendance for the redevelopment of the two-story [00:23:38] building located at 6220 Grand Boulevard, [00:23:41] authorizing the executive director [00:23:43] to enter into a redevelopment grant agreement [00:23:45] and to execute all contracts and forms [00:23:48] consistent with such approval. [00:23:51] And Crystal did a great job of actually warming us up for this [00:23:54] because she correctly pointed out. [00:23:56] Check this out, everyone. [00:23:57] I got a laser cannon. [00:23:58] Look at that. [00:23:58] It's going to burn a hole right through that thing. [00:24:00] So our community redevelopment plan [00:24:02] sets forth a number of grant programs, [00:24:05] including the Commercial Real Estate Redevelopment [00:24:07] Grant, which is, of course, the subject of this item. [00:24:12] And going through the highlights of the program, [00:24:15] it targets downtown, the Marine District. [00:24:19] And it's kind of weird that the Marine District is connected [00:24:23] to marine versus the actual marine environment, [00:24:25] but that's what we call it. [00:24:27] We got downtown, the Marine District, [00:24:29] and Highway 19 Corridor. [00:24:31] It's a minimum investment of $500,000. [00:24:34] The targeted outcomes are purchase and significant [00:24:37] upgrade of commercial properties, [00:24:39] improvements to the leasehold space [00:24:41] so that you can have multiple tenants and or an anchor [00:24:43] tenant, redesign of the building facade and exterior grounds, [00:24:47] and, of course, jobs creation and business growth. [00:24:50] It's important to note the maximum grant is 20% [00:24:53] of the total verified investment, [00:24:54] subject to funding being made available in your adopted [00:24:57] budget. [00:25:00] The project at hand, redevelopment [00:25:01] of 6220 Grand Boulevard, the highlights. [00:25:04] This is the former Dulcet. [00:25:06] It was acquired by Missouri Grand in late 2019. [00:25:09] It's a comprehensive redevelopment project, [00:25:12] which was substantially completed in 2023. [00:25:15] They transformed the building inside and out, [00:25:18] dramatically upgrading its architecture [00:25:20] and converting what had been a mezzanine on the second floor [00:25:23] into a full floor modern office space. [00:25:26] Crystal also, she was really a good high person tonight, [00:25:29] she pointed out that on the ground floor [00:25:31] we have the estuary, which is a contemporary chef-driven [00:25:34] restaurant, which has already won at least one [00:25:37] rave review from the Tampa Bay Times. [00:25:39] And the second floor is being actively marketed [00:25:42] as a potential location for a professional services firm. [00:25:45] It would be perfect for engineering, architecture, [00:25:47] planning, CPA. [00:25:49] You know any accounting firms out there, board members? [00:25:53] Or executive suites. [00:25:54] And a shout out to commercial asset partners and one Heidi [00:26:01] out there. [00:26:01] Tuttle-Bisner, is that how you pronounce the last name? [00:26:05] And of course, her partner in real estate, Lisa. [00:26:09] They are actively marketing it and they [00:26:12] work hard to bring jobs to Pasco County and New Port Richey. [00:26:16] Now, I don't know about you, I find inspiration [00:26:19] in reading and also song. [00:26:22] And when we're talking about redevelopment and redevelopment [00:26:25] in life, it's important to remember [00:26:27] that in the words of Sammy Sonic, [00:26:29] if you're familiar with the song, [00:26:30] every new beginning comes from some other beginning's end. [00:26:33] And so it's really, when we're talking about redevelopment, [00:26:36] it's the circle. [00:26:37] And so when we talk about this new project, [00:26:39] I want to make sure that we properly recognize [00:26:42] and that I don't become a bull in a china shop [00:26:44] because this redevelopment project that Frank and Missouri [00:26:49] have been working on was someone else's redevelopment project [00:26:52] before. [00:26:53] And that was someone else's dream. [00:26:56] And it's the way of life, it's a circle. [00:26:58] And we're just going after continuous improvement. [00:27:00] So as we talk about this redevelopment, revitalization, [00:27:03] just want to call out that once upon a time, [00:27:06] the dulcet was someone's new beginning. [00:27:08] And so we're building on what they built. [00:27:10] We're building on what they invested. [00:27:12] And this is how we continue to march onward and upward. [00:27:15] So I just want to recognize that. [00:27:19] And there it is. [00:27:20] There's the before. [00:27:21] There's the dulcet. [00:27:22] And just real quick, I just want to point out [00:27:24] that you have the doors there. [00:27:26] And hey, where are the windows? [00:27:29] And we're going to take a look at these awnings [00:27:31] and the blank wall. [00:27:33] So I just want to make some notes going forward. [00:27:37] This was the inside, all right? [00:27:38] This was the mezzanine. [00:27:41] So you had a lot of open space, right? [00:27:43] That's not space that you can lease. [00:27:46] That's not providing ROI, return on investment. [00:27:50] But this is what it looks like today in a glamour shot. [00:27:54] Deputy Chair, this is like where the Big Mac is looking [00:27:56] its best, right there. [00:27:57] That's right. [00:27:57] That's it right there. [00:27:58] Maximum volume, extra large fries. [00:28:02] And then on the inside on the ground floor, [00:28:04] you have the estuary, high quality finishes. [00:28:08] It's natural. [00:28:09] It's open. [00:28:09] It's got great light. [00:28:10] Why? [00:28:11] Because they added a whole bunch of windows. [00:28:13] Let's make some notes about how these awnings covered [00:28:17] the sidewalk, providing our pedestrians with shade [00:28:20] and shelter from the elements. [00:28:25] The inside, I think everyone's been there. [00:28:27] Hopefully, they've had a great meal there. [00:28:29] We enjoyed it, my wife and I, big time. [00:28:32] This is the upstairs that Heidi and Cap are marketing. [00:28:36] So you've gone from a mezzanine and space [00:28:39] you can't lease to really beautiful modern office space. [00:28:44] There's about 12 offices up there. [00:28:47] And as part of your packet, there's also the layout. [00:28:52] So big highlights and the positive outcomes [00:28:55] from this project, it was a major investment. [00:28:57] All in, the property owners invested over $2.3 million. [00:29:00] It's breathed new life into an old building, [00:29:02] showcasing and exemplifying important architectural [00:29:05] planning and design principles we should [00:29:07] want to see emulated elsewhere. [00:29:09] That's really important. [00:29:10] And that's why I go into the weeds with you guys [00:29:12] on those architectural elements. [00:29:13] Because we're champions for downtown, design matters. [00:29:17] And whenever we can, when we have [00:29:19] people that love the community and they're interested, [00:29:23] we want them to learn as much as they can. [00:29:26] They're probably pretty knowledgeable already. [00:29:28] They were all A students from Gulf High. [00:29:30] They probably know a lot of concepts. [00:29:33] We want them to be champions and share this with other people. [00:29:36] And so there's a lot going on in this building. [00:29:40] So if you read the fine print, just real, real quick, [00:29:43] I want to take you through some of the good things [00:29:46] from a design standpoint. [00:29:47] Because design matters in your downtown. [00:29:50] Quality matters. [00:29:51] So it's mixed use. [00:29:53] And you can have mixed use horizontally. [00:29:56] Because in a district, you could have an office building. [00:30:00] to a restaurant, next to retail, next to residential. [00:30:03] I mean, you could have horizontal mixed-use, [00:30:06] but in the downtown, it's better, [00:30:09] and especially on an active main street, [00:30:11] like Main Street or Grand Boulevard, [00:30:14] you want vertical mixed-use. [00:30:16] And more than vertical mixed-use, [00:30:18] I mean, you don't want a sludge factory [00:30:21] and a car lot or a car wash, [00:30:23] you know, you want the right kind of mixed-uses. [00:30:25] So from a planning perspective, [00:30:27] you want active ground floor uses. [00:30:29] You want restaurants, you want shops, you want eye candy. [00:30:34] You want to create a place that has buzz [00:30:36] and gives reasons for people to be there. [00:30:38] People don't want to stare at blank walls. [00:30:40] They want to stare at something, [00:30:42] something active and interesting. [00:30:44] And so not only do you want those uses, [00:30:47] so that your downtown is a place that people want to be, [00:30:51] and that makes NPR be a place that people want to be, [00:30:54] you really want the outdoor dining [00:30:57] and you want glass storefront. [00:30:59] Glass storefront is so important [00:31:01] that in downtowns where you do it right, [00:31:04] you might even have in your code a minimum amount of glass. [00:31:08] So some codes might prescribe, [00:31:10] hey, you got to have 25% of your total front elevation [00:31:14] as glass, because we got to be able to see in there. [00:31:16] Or some other experts might say, [00:31:18] hey, you know what, you need 65 to 75% glass at eye level. [00:31:23] So it's that important that in a lot of downtowns [00:31:28] where traditional neighborhood design is employed, [00:31:30] they put that right into the code. [00:31:32] The proper depth of awnings matters. [00:31:34] You never want something that seems fake. [00:31:38] And so if you have an awning [00:31:39] that doesn't actually shelter the pedestrian, [00:31:44] it's really more just like window dressing. [00:31:47] You're just kind of faking it. [00:31:48] So you really want, in your downtown, [00:31:51] especially on your main streets, [00:31:53] and when I say main streets, I mean Main Street and Grand, [00:31:56] your busiest streets, you want continuous coverage, [00:32:00] except for where you have column breaks and things like that [00:32:03] with awnings and or arcades. [00:32:05] Like arcades are a great thing too, [00:32:06] especially if you figure out how to build over them [00:32:09] and you give your developers a little bit more space. [00:32:12] And then of course they have enhanced architectural detail [00:32:16] because Frank is a classically trained architect [00:32:18] and we'd expect nothing less. [00:32:20] So it's a good looking building. [00:32:21] It passes the eye test. [00:32:22] So it's really, in my opinion, [00:32:26] it's exemplary for what we want to see achieved downtown. [00:32:30] Also, hey, you guys, I told, I asked Debbie, [00:32:34] I'm like, hey, I'll come work here [00:32:35] if you give me two titles. [00:32:36] So I have economic development director in my title. [00:32:39] So I got to talk to you about economic development. [00:32:41] This creates 3,850 square feet of new office space. [00:32:46] So if we just do rules of thumb and we say, [00:32:48] hey, those are 12 offices. [00:32:50] If we put a professional firm in there, [00:32:53] it's going to have a certain amount of payroll [00:32:55] and that payroll is going to cycle [00:32:56] through the local economy two to four times. [00:33:00] Being very conservative, it's a $2.5 million impact. [00:33:04] So it's meeting all of the criteria of your program [00:33:09] and then some. [00:33:11] Another highlighted positive outcome [00:33:13] is the marketing and advertising. [00:33:15] When your businesses bring honor, [00:33:18] going all Athenian oak on you here, [00:33:20] when your businesses and citizens bring honor [00:33:23] on the city, on the CRA, [00:33:25] they're giving you positive marketing, advertising, [00:33:28] word of mouth, and we call that earned media. [00:33:31] So you are getting the benefit of exposure [00:33:34] without having to pay for it. [00:33:36] And that is a great thing. [00:33:38] So based on the foregoing, [00:33:41] agency staff finds the application consistent [00:33:43] with the parameters of the program [00:33:44] and past approvals granted by the agency. [00:33:47] Grant payments would only be made [00:33:49] after the verification of applicant expenditures [00:33:51] on eligible items. [00:33:53] The request is less than the maximum [00:33:55] and the adopted agency budget includes $1.55 million [00:33:58] for redevelopment incentives [00:33:59] of which $1 million is still available. [00:34:01] And just as a note, a board member was kind enough [00:34:04] to call me before the meeting. [00:34:06] And I just want to say on a personal note, [00:34:09] I'm grateful to be here. [00:34:10] I appreciate the opportunity to get to work. [00:34:12] I've been here about 100 days. [00:34:14] Part of my onboarding is going to be clearing the board [00:34:17] of applications that have been waiting [00:34:20] for the executive director's new director. [00:34:23] And so I'm here. [00:34:24] And so tonight we have this one. [00:34:27] I had a long list. [00:34:29] We're going to have a parking garage agreement [00:34:34] that comes forward. [00:34:35] We're going to have to work something out [00:34:36] with Seafire, with Aqua Harbor. [00:34:39] And then once we clear the board, [00:34:40] we'll be able to get to the new thing. [00:34:42] So if you'll just continue to give me the grace [00:34:45] and the warm welcome you have, [00:34:47] this first 100 days is going to lead [00:34:49] to an even greater next 100 days. [00:34:50] So just thank you for the opportunity. [00:34:52] And staff does recommend approval. [00:34:55] Be happy to take any questions. [00:34:59] We have any public comment? [00:35:03] Seeing no one come forward, not even Frank. [00:35:06] Bring him back. [00:35:09] Would you like to speak a little? [00:35:13] Sure, thanks. [00:35:14] Frank Starkey, 5988 Central Avenue, New Port Richey. [00:35:19] Okay. [00:35:21] Thanks, Greg, as again, as last time, [00:35:24] he's a better architecture explainer than I am. [00:35:27] And I also want to appreciate your shout out [00:35:30] to the Dulcet owners. [00:35:33] They really did pour a significant investment [00:35:37] in their business. [00:35:38] But it was an investment in New Port Richey. [00:35:41] And I always want to give them props for that, [00:35:44] because they really stepped out on a limb. [00:35:47] And unfortunately for them, it wasn't successful. [00:35:51] But I appreciate what they invested in New Port Richey. [00:35:56] My assessment of the building when it was available, [00:36:01] well, kind of all along, was that as a two-story restaurant, [00:36:04] it was too big a venue for this market to support. [00:36:09] It's hard to get the activity [00:36:12] on the second floor that you need. [00:36:14] And so it was too big to be a single restaurant, [00:36:18] too small to be a nightclub. [00:36:20] And it just was too difficult [00:36:22] to work the two things together. [00:36:24] Mixed use projects are difficult enough. [00:36:28] A mixed use operation has got to be really difficult. [00:36:31] So my assessment was that what the building needed [00:36:35] was two things primarily. [00:36:37] One was a whole lot more glass [00:36:39] on both the first and the second floors, [00:36:41] for all the reasons that Greg outlined. [00:36:43] And also that it needed to be closed in [00:36:46] and made a full two-story building. [00:36:48] That ended up being far more of a hassle than we expected, [00:36:52] because the first floor ceiling's fairly low. [00:36:56] The ceiling had to be turned into a fire separation [00:36:59] between the two different uses. [00:37:00] And so we had to spend a lot of heartache and money [00:37:05] in making that work. [00:37:06] We did, with good help from the city officials, [00:37:10] which was a very good working relationship, [00:37:14] which I appreciate as well. [00:37:15] So we've got it on the market now, [00:37:17] as he alluded to, with CAP for a single tenant. [00:37:21] But we are also moving forward with plans [00:37:23] to make it into executive suites. [00:37:25] And if a single tenant operator or tenant [00:37:29] moves in, shows up, willing to take the whole thing, [00:37:33] at the last minute, we would still consider [00:37:36] that opportunity. [00:37:38] But we also think that renting it out by the room [00:37:40] as executive suites will be a more sustainable [00:37:44] business model and bring, instead of one business, [00:37:48] it may bring 13 or 15 individuals [00:37:52] who have their own businesses. [00:37:54] It's good for startups, for entrepreneurs. [00:37:56] It also works well for people who are downsizing [00:37:59] from their own office. [00:38:01] And in good times, people who are tired [00:38:04] of having their office in their dining room [00:38:07] will move out to a place like this. [00:38:09] And in bad times, bad economic conditions, [00:38:11] people who are shrinking will move into it. [00:38:13] So we think that's gonna be a promising thing. [00:38:16] I'll be happy to answer any questions you may have. [00:38:22] We're looking for approval. [00:38:25] Chairman, I'll make a motion that we approve [00:38:29] staff's recommendation. [00:38:30] Second. [00:38:34] Yeah, Greg did it very astutely in his description. [00:38:40] My description is this is a, this sets the standard, [00:38:45] I believe, in redevelopment within our city. [00:38:48] It checks all the boxes that you would wanna check. [00:38:51] And although Greg took a minute and went through [00:38:56] each one of them, and some of those, [00:38:59] I didn't realize what it was that made me feel good [00:39:02] about that project, but I think it does set the standard [00:39:06] and is a significant investment that's made. [00:39:10] And therefore, I'm in favor of the staff's recommendation. [00:39:19] Yeah, I think if you're just looking at the [00:39:21] before and after pictures alone, [00:39:23] I mean, what a difference it makes. [00:39:25] And it just makes a downtown pop, [00:39:27] and it's expensive, but it was well worth it. [00:39:34] First of all, on the windows and the glass, [00:39:37] I think it was several consulting firms passed, [00:39:41] it was Gibbs, I think, who did a downtown consulting, [00:39:44] and looked at our city, and he told us this was, [00:39:48] I don't think I was on the city council yet, [00:39:50] I might have been working with the city, [00:39:53] but that in a period of just a few years, [00:39:55] if we followed some rules, we could attract [00:39:58] what was the number one tourist attraction there is, [00:40:02] which is shopping, of all things, [00:40:04] as much as people think of sports or anything else. [00:40:06] So the pitch to have a retail, [00:40:11] people walking on the sidewalk, [00:40:12] has got so many people excited right now in our city, [00:40:15] just to see that in the evening, or even on a weekend day, [00:40:19] and it has breathed real life into the city. [00:40:23] And so as you speak about those who started, [00:40:24] I just want to reflect that when I first became [00:40:28] an accountant, before I got my CPA license, [00:40:31] and I graduated from college, [00:40:33] I was able to start my own business, [00:40:35] and it was Vic Mallet who had worked with James Andropoulos, [00:40:39] who was an investor out of Tarpon Springs [00:40:43] who bought the Boulevard building, [00:40:45] and on the upstairs of that building, [00:40:47] he divided it up into small offices, [00:40:49] he had a receptionist for his construction [00:40:51] and real estate business, [00:40:53] and I was able to rent and begin my CPA practice [00:40:57] when I got my certificate, [00:40:59] and ultimately moved to other locations. [00:41:02] But I think that that's an incubation [00:41:06] of the professionals, [00:41:11] and most importantly, getting them up on the second floor [00:41:13] and away from the windows on the first floor. [00:41:16] But back to Mr. Gibbs, [00:41:18] the one thing he noticed in our city [00:41:20] was the mistake that has been made [00:41:23] by so many of the existing businesses [00:41:26] that are using such heavy solar reflective materials [00:41:31] on the windows, that if you can't see inside a business, [00:41:35] sometimes you don't even know if it's open [00:41:37] without that little open sign. [00:41:39] So I think that you've done a good job [00:41:42] of opening it up, and some of the new businesses [00:41:46] that have that visibility to see the window shopping, [00:41:49] it creates the walkability and all those things. [00:41:51] So thank you for what you've done. [00:41:54] I'm excited to know that we'll be able [00:41:56] to use these incentives as we go forward [00:42:00] in a process where folks will know [00:42:02] and understand their expectations. [00:42:04] We're very fortunate that you did such an excellent job [00:42:08] to qualify and to get the incentive that's there, [00:42:11] and it was well presented, so I support it. [00:42:15] Thank you. [00:42:16] What was that building prior to Dulcet? [00:42:18] It was a... [00:42:20] Jimmy's Restaurant. [00:42:21] Well, there was a civic club of some sort. [00:42:23] The Moose? [00:42:24] The Moose Club. [00:42:25] The Moose, yeah, so, yeah, I just was thinking, [00:42:28] I almost forgot to say... [00:42:29] The Blue Moon is actually originally... [00:42:31] Well, I think the Moose Club is what it was when... [00:42:34] The Blue Moon was first, and then Moose Club. [00:42:36] We're talking about opening up walls and windows, [00:42:38] and it just reminds me of my mother-in-law [00:42:41] had an automobile accident there and ran to the wall [00:42:44] on Missouri side there probably about 15 years ago or so, [00:42:51] so she was trying to do her remodeling there as well, [00:42:55] but they put the bricks back up, so, anyway, [00:42:58] I just had to recall that. [00:43:00] Probably Nellie's, before it was Jimmy's, [00:43:02] if those who might remember it, [00:43:03] there was a pool hall there before the big fire, [00:43:07] which turned Orange Lake into a garden [00:43:11] when all of the fertilizer turned it into a jungle. [00:43:18] I just want to say that in the years [00:43:22] that I've been in this redevelopment, [00:43:25] having been in town since 83, the redevelopment, [00:43:28] one of the things that I kept hearing all the time [00:43:30] was we have good bones, and so when Frank [00:43:33] went into the dosettes, I knew we were sending in [00:43:36] the right architect to take a look [00:43:38] and make sure that building had good bones, [00:43:40] and I found out a problem between the first [00:43:41] and second floor, but that just reinforced me [00:43:44] to think that we've got the right person going in there, [00:43:46] and it's adding to the good bones [00:43:50] that we have in town here, so I support it, too. [00:43:54] Do we have anything else? [00:43:56] All right, all those in favor? [00:43:57] Aye. [00:43:58] Those opposed? [00:43:59] We have four zip. [00:44:01] Okay, moving on, proposed update

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  4. 6

    Proposed Update to the Community Redevelopment Plan

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    The CRA Board reviewed a proposed update to the Community Redevelopment Plan presented by Stantec and staff. The Board reached consensus on a distilled vision statement — 'the best walkable waterfront historic hometown in Florida' — and discussed proposed goals and objectives, with concerns raised about word choice (e.g., 'beautiful' vs. 'comfortable/livable'). The Board also considered direction to staff to complete a finding of necessity report regarding Leisure Lane and Van Doren for inclusion in the CRA.

    • consensus:Board reached consensus on a distilled vision statement: 'the best walkable waterfront historic hometown in Florida.' (passed)
    • direction:Staff requested direction to complete the finding of necessity report for Leisure/Van Doren and present it to the City Council. (none)
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    [00:44:03] of the community redevelopment plan. [00:44:05] At your last meeting, we spent a good amount [00:44:10] of time reviewing the community redevelopment plan [00:44:15] and providing you an update of where we are [00:44:18] in terms of our work with STANTAC [00:44:22] to update the community redevelopment plan. [00:44:26] Tonight, we'll briefly review for you [00:44:31] where we are based on the review [00:44:39] that we have already provided for you, [00:44:41] but we're looking for you to do [00:44:43] some very specific things this evening, [00:44:46] and Greg has planned, I think, [00:44:49] four things this evening that he'd like to accomplish, [00:44:54] and we're gonna let him get started with those. [00:44:59] I think that one is. [00:45:00] a vision, the other some goals and some objectives and the remaining things have [00:45:09] to do with the strategic plan and then finding a necessity and Leisure Lane and [00:45:16] Van Doren. As usual Madam Executive Director you got it and unfortunately [00:45:21] though I'm out of kicking distance from the Executive Director and she said [00:45:25] briefly and I understand that I am the only thing keeping you and them and [00:45:31] everyone from Good Friday and the holiday weekend so I want to make sure [00:45:35] that we are meeting your needs and what you want to accomplish this evening. As [00:45:40] the Executive Director pointed out from our standpoint it would be great [00:45:45] if we continued the conversation that we had on the update the Community [00:45:48] Redevelopment Plan. At the last meeting we had a conversation about the vision [00:45:53] and we said hey board how do you want to go about setting the vision it's [00:45:57] really important to set the vision. Do you want to do it yourself? Do you want [00:46:01] to have us do it with additional community input? You said we'll bring it [00:46:05] back to the next meeting and we might just do it here. So it'd be great if you [00:46:09] set the vision or you set the process for us to effect that vision. That you [00:46:16] provide feedback on anything else the vision goals objectives and specific [00:46:20] strategic priorities that were previously shared and updated to [00:46:24] incorporate your original round of feedback. So what you received in your [00:46:27] packet and what we have tonight has already been updated based on your first [00:46:31] round of input and then of course that issue of leisure Van Doren. Why? Well [00:46:38] because we're updating the Community Redevelopment Plan and we have to do a [00:46:41] fine necessity as already has been correctly pointed out by board member [00:46:44] Altman to formally include that within the CRA. But you do after you do a fine [00:46:50] necessity it goes to the City Council. The City Council approves that you have [00:46:54] to update your plan. So we're paying to update our plan so it behooves us to [00:46:58] move forward with that now. So I'm asking if you will direct staff to complete the [00:47:04] necessary fine necessity report and present it to the City Council. Of course [00:47:09] that's just a request you guys let us know what you want to do. Just real real [00:47:14] quick just setting the table we're in the process of making a good plan and [00:47:18] hopefully a great one. What's the difference between a good plan and a [00:47:21] great plan? Well a good plan has all the good bones Mr. Chair but then you [00:47:25] actually bring it to life and that's what brings us from good to great by [00:47:28] working hard smart together. But what goes into a good plan is the basic ideas [00:47:34] where we've been where we are and most importantly where we're going and how [00:47:39] are we going to get there. So we covered about where we've been our history it's [00:47:44] foundational to our identity instructive to our present and future where we are [00:47:48] that's an honest assessment of our present that's where the SWOT comes in [00:47:51] the listening sessions expert data and analyses and really Crystal and the [00:47:56] Executive Director really set us up I mean as did Robert and the whole team [00:48:00] but where we're at you just did last year's annual report you just got the [00:48:06] update on the amazing welcome sign to historic our historic hometown and [00:48:10] historic downtown NPR and so really now it's about shifting gears to where we're [00:48:16] going and where we're going is articulated in that vision and that's [00:48:19] why I continue to harp on it and and and ask you for it because it's really the [00:48:24] most important thing. The goals objectives and specific strategic [00:48:29] priorities that's the meat and potatoes that's that's how you break down the [00:48:33] vision into the pieces that's how you eat the elephant and that's how you [00:48:36] bring the vision to life so I won't go through everything that was provided in [00:48:39] the packet but I did want to lay that out and that is the transition to the [00:48:44] vision the good vision will convey our desired destination the end state the [00:48:48] future be short enough to be remembered long enough to convey the desired [00:48:52] meaning and understood by everyone who reads or hears it should be aspirational [00:48:57] inspirational and achievable and just to kind of provide fodder and feed the [00:49:04] machine here's some examples to provide access to the world's information on one [00:49:09] click our vision is to be the earth's most customer centric company where [00:49:14] customers can find and discover anything that may they might want to buy online [00:49:18] any any idea where that first one came from to provide access to the world's [00:49:24] Google that's right how about that second one you probably you know what I [00:49:29] got this laser pointer from that second one Amazon that's right now then I went [00:49:35] to the cities right so I could throw a couple examples in there now chief of [00:49:40] police now I'm a big fan of the chief not just because of his hairstyle but [00:49:44] because of his ability and dedication and I'm counting on him to know this [00:49:49] vision statement an inclusive and prosperous community guided by our [00:49:53] history traditions and natural environment any idea chief where that [00:49:57] came from put him on a spot that's right sir [00:50:04] Tarpon that's Tarpon Springs vision statement that's pretty good and then a [00:50:08] safe beautiful and prosperous city for all people and that is so simple so [00:50:14] straightforward that's Port St. Lucie so there's just a few examples from around [00:50:19] the way we have a brand statement it's in the back if you can see that you've [00:50:26] been eating your carrots I can't see it but it's a it's very good it's it's a [00:50:31] full page Arnett Muldrow did it and then you know we have stand tax proposed [00:50:38] planning vision so Mike our question for the board is where do you want to go [00:50:42] from here how might we distill our brand and our our planning vision which [00:50:49] was mined from all that the community listening session and all the plans that [00:50:53] have come before how do we distill that into something that's aspirational [00:50:58] inspirational and leads us to the better future [00:51:06] chairman and just because you mentioned earlier on the process that you're [00:51:12] expecting tonight if I could speak to that we've got a presentation through [00:51:18] this point you're asking us to talk vision I would like to know my [00:51:22] colleagues would we feel comfortable that we participate in this conversation [00:51:25] and then then when we're done ask the public for some comment because usually [00:51:31] we ask for a public comment at some point it's either before or after we [00:51:35] talk so is after okay and we can continue this conversation and that way [00:51:40] they'll hear our ideas and can maybe add them in too I do have some comments [00:51:46] about the vision that came from Stan tech that you just have up there if you [00:51:51] could get it back up there and and there are two words that I think are important [00:51:58] for us to focus on and not because I don't want a beautiful neighborhood or [00:52:05] a beautiful city but when I read that and this may be more Port st. Lucie than [00:52:11] New Port Richey but when I look at our city and something in the language that [00:52:16] you put talked about honesty and you know where we are as a city and who we [00:52:24] are I can remember I can remember Steve Miklos coming in here at one point who [00:52:30] had was very anxious because the city was putting in some strong conditions it [00:52:37] wouldn't allow a boat to be in the side yard or that we've had we've had so much [00:52:43] attention into our code enforcement and our efforts of code but the truth is I [00:52:49] don't see the possibility in our downtown that we can with the way that [00:52:54] it is claim that we are a beautiful neighborhood we are a livable [00:53:03] neighborhood we're a comfortable make neighborhood I just don't know that [00:53:07] beautiful is possible if you're not going to be in a community development [00:53:12] district that has those strong standards and I'm not ashamed of both [00:53:22] parked in the side and I'm not I'm not sorry that we have the rules that we [00:53:26] have in place but I also know that we have a lot of improvements that we need [00:53:32] to make in our own infrastructure our alleys our curbs our sidewalks all the [00:53:36] things we're doing and just seeing that the improvements we've made have have [00:53:41] pulled that in those neighborhoods along to improve themselves you know I'm [00:53:47] I'm of the leader of the management style that you can pull a chain a lot [00:53:52] easier than you can push it and I think that the word beautiful is great but I [00:53:58] think that we are a place people feel comfortable and livable so I think the [00:54:04] beautiful word is worth thinking about everybody wants to be beautiful have a [00:54:10] beautiful community buy a CDD that's why all those houses sell in all of [00:54:15] these communities we are different we're we're a natural comfortable southern [00:54:21] city and I hear that from a lot of people and there's also this sort of [00:54:27] anti gentrification you know element of our city of folks that are still living [00:54:32] here that we like having people of all standards of income and lifestyles [00:54:39] anyway maybe I'm overdoing it but I think beautiful is one word the other [00:54:44] thing is I think the word historic is something we've put on our big sign out [00:54:51] there and that's our word you know and we've got some historic buildings and I [00:54:56] think that that if you're going to be looking to thin it down I love your [00:55:02] distilled word I think you could say the best walkable waterfront historic [00:55:07] hometown in Florida and I think that tells it all we're not braggadocios [00:55:12] where this is who we are so my my and no disregard for the work of Stantec or the [00:55:20] incredibly poetic language of Muldrow because if you read that whole thing [00:55:26] you're you think you dropped on Alice in Wonderland because it's just you know [00:55:32] the water the river turns and the beautiful trip it's like a it's an [00:55:37] incredible like commentary but I like the distilled language and I'm not sure [00:55:44] that we get a lot of benefit out of out of arguing over the words in the larger [00:55:49] text but those are my comments so I I will agree about that with a distilled [00:55:59] version if we if we're looking for something that's that's inspirational [00:56:05] right that we did that we're really striving for and and you know the word [00:56:13] best it can it can really expand it to all all things right the the best city [00:56:21] would be a safe city it would be one that connects people it would be one [00:56:27] that was attractive it would one that offer many services and cultural and [00:56:33] arts and so forth so you know as a so I'm I'm attracted to you know that type [00:56:42] of vision keeping it simple and it's something we can aspire to it it's so [00:56:48] broad that if we can build distill it down or distill it not distill down but [00:56:54] break it down to to what it means all those things that's in the longer [00:57:01] version would would be I think included so I I am I am much like you fellow [00:57:12] board member that it would be I like that I like the shorter version personally I [00:57:20] like this shorter version so and and I and I tried I really did I spent some [00:57:25] time this week trying to make it better I couldn't yeah I definitely think the [00:57:34] shorter version is better that's right it gets to the point quicker you know [00:57:38] people don't lose you know something lose attention it was being too long but [00:57:43] it's harder it's harder to get all those things in a in a short you know shorter [00:57:47] time shorter span especially when you have a city that has so much going on [00:57:53] and so much to offer so you know it's it's it's crucial that we pick the best [00:57:57] the best words I know this isn't a final or anything but you know I really think [00:58:04] that the shorter is the version to go it's just finding the right words to put [00:58:08] in there well I am I didn't go to Gulf High and I wasn't an a student and if I [00:58:16] if I was I'm sitting here working with this my mother would be sitting at the [00:58:20] same table with me trying to figure out the words that I would be using and [00:58:23] probably it'd be her words and then I'd be happy with her words so I'm real [00:58:28] happy with what it is doesn't nail us down it keeps us rolling forward and so [00:58:33] I'm happy with where we're going all right well thank you for your input did [00:58:40] you want to open it up now we'll put it so we have any public comments see no [00:58:49] one come forward we'll bring it back for thank you mr. chair let's get to work on [00:58:54] the best walkable waterfront historic hometown of Florida what do you say [00:58:58] sounds good all right so you have penciled in the vision everything else [00:59:03] flows from the vision started with the fewest number of goals that would bring [00:59:07] that vision to life so at the last meeting Stan tech and staff your team we [00:59:12] presented what those goals would be and to your point you know you need a box [00:59:21] like this to carry them but really when you go to an HOA meeting or you go meet [00:59:26] with the alumni or you go to the Historical Society you got your vision [00:59:31] in your head you got your six goals and then you have the most important [00:59:36] projects you're working on and that's really going to shape you know your [00:59:39] interaction on what's going on in the CRA and so right now what we have [00:59:43] proposed for goals is healthy let's see let me get there cut through all that [00:59:49] healthy neighborhoods historic downtown and a transform us 19 corridor safe [00:59:55] clean and beautiful I don't know if we got to change that to safe clean and [01:00:00] and livable or comfortable. [01:00:02] Well maintained. [01:00:04] How about beautiful slash comfortable? [01:00:09] Beautiful is a good goal. [01:00:14] So I don't have a problem with the word. [01:00:17] The sensitivity was in the driving distilled vision, [01:00:21] not necessarily the individual goals. [01:00:23] I'm with you, and thank you. [01:00:25] Resilient, high quality, interconnected roads and infrastructure, [01:00:29] prospering local businesses, diverse economy and abundant jobs, [01:00:33] the river, arts, culture, parks, recreation, the environment, [01:00:37] and award-winning administration and collaboration with community institutions, [01:00:41] stakeholders, and capital C citizens. [01:00:45] So those are the proposed goals. [01:00:47] And this whole evening, we would just like, you know, Matt's over there, [01:00:51] and Matt brought another partner from Stantec tonight. [01:00:53] They're at your disposal. [01:00:55] But we wanted to kind of go through this via exception, [01:00:58] meaning we would just state them again, [01:01:00] and you let us know if you want to go into the weeds on them and make any changes. [01:01:04] So those are your high-level goals. [01:01:07] Are there any changes to the goals? [01:01:09] Did you want to add anything, delete anything, wordsmith anything? [01:01:14] A lot of work. [01:01:15] In my opinion, there's a lot of work to do right there. [01:01:20] Working on some of them, fine-tuning them, you might add something. [01:01:24] But I think as a start, proposed goals is fine. [01:01:27] Anybody else? [01:01:29] Well, I think the word goals is this is a goal of what we want to be [01:01:34] and not a strategy of how to get there. [01:01:38] If that's what you're saying, then I'll leave all of my strategic commentary out, you know. [01:01:45] But a goal is not just a period of words. [01:01:50] It's sort of like arriving at a place or a position. [01:01:56] So when you say number five, as an example, the river, arts, culture, parks, [01:02:01] recreation, and the environment, [01:02:03] maybe the goal should be the connectivity of our river to our mobility, [01:02:18] because the attractiveness of the river to a lot of the folks who are here now, [01:02:25] and I would just like to say a goal to me should be the immediacy of importing some short-term goals. [01:02:35] So I'm thinking of goals maybe a little different than where do I imagine that I'm at [01:02:43] after I'm dead and buried in another, you know, 20 years, [01:02:46] versus what's my goal while I'm around to help work towards that goal. [01:02:52] So there's always a short-term goal and a mid-term goal and a long-term goal, [01:02:56] and I get very boggled up because I think about too many things to be able to sort all that out. [01:03:06] It's kind of a jumbly set of numbers. [01:03:10] The interconnected roads and infrastructure, for example, [01:03:14] interconnected transportation, because we're a river city, [01:03:19] and I think there's been talk about ferries and connecting us by ferry to New Port Richey. [01:03:24] There's the bicycle trails and the walkability. [01:03:30] I'm not sure I see that in any of those goals, which is part of our mission. [01:03:38] So maybe we go back to that simple mission statement and see how our goals hit on it. [01:03:46] I'm going to use one of these as an example, if we may. [01:03:49] So this is just the intro because I was going to turn it over to Stantec. [01:03:53] Depending on how you wanted to approach this, it's really about how much time you want to put into it, [01:04:00] how this fits into the overall process. [01:04:02] How far do you want to get into the weeds tonight? [01:04:06] You know, you have to decide that, and then we can take it from there. [01:04:10] Let me just bring up an example. [01:04:12] Let's just go to five because those are like five or six words. [01:04:16] And so it really doesn't define the goals, but if you go to goal five in the book here [01:04:23] and you kind of look at it, it breaks it down a lot for us. [01:04:27] So it's not a one-word answer as to proposed goals. [01:04:32] You get down to whichever one you want to pick. [01:04:35] I mean, I think there's eight or nine. [01:04:37] But, I mean, it breaks it down in actually the goals further on in the page. [01:04:44] So I think we don't need to really go into the weeds on everything tonight. [01:04:48] I think this is, you know, I've only read through it myself once, you know, [01:04:52] so I'm not really prepared to do a whole evening of working, fine-tuning each one of these things. [01:04:58] But that's where I'm at anyhow. [01:05:02] So just using that example, and that was because we picked five to start with. [01:05:06] That's what I wanted to go to. [01:05:08] So whether, Mr. Chair and members of the board, whether you would go to page seven of 11 [01:05:14] in the draft document or you went to the PowerPoint, page 42, [01:05:21] we can see how goal five is broken down into objectives, right? [01:05:27] That's the next unit. [01:05:30] Like how to eat the elephant, one bite at a time. [01:05:32] So you start with the vision. [01:05:33] Then you break that into goals. [01:05:35] Then you break the goals into objectives. [01:05:37] So it's easy to get your head around and your hands around six goals. [01:05:41] Six goals turn into 140 objectives, right? [01:05:45] Because now you're getting into the detail of it. [01:05:47] And so for five, hey, we're going to promote and enhance the public waterfront, [01:05:51] including boat ramps, boardwalks, and promenades. [01:05:54] We're going to champion the continuing renaissance of the Ritchie Suncoast Theater. [01:05:57] We're going to identify, recruit, and support desirable arts, cultural, recreational, [01:06:00] and competitive sports uses and related attractions, venues, and organizations. [01:06:04] We're going to promote public arts. [01:06:07] We are going to continue the implementation of the park's master plan. [01:06:11] We're going to evaluate opportunities for the continuous improvement of Sims Park and the amphitheater. [01:06:15] We're going to continue to support the continuous improvement of the library [01:06:18] and implementation of its mission. [01:06:20] We're going to support a full calendar of special events, [01:06:23] which celebrate and reinforce the character of the community. [01:06:26] We're going to support efforts to increase utilization and celebration of the river [01:06:30] and other local water bodies, such as kayak trails, boat races, et cetera. [01:06:34] A city goal of providing a park within a 10-minute walk of every home. [01:06:38] The city and adding pocket parks and other open spaces to neighborhoods [01:06:41] as part of the neighborhood planning program. [01:06:43] Efforts to maintain and enhance opportunities for lifelong learning. [01:06:47] So there's... [01:06:49] Yeah, you got my point then. [01:06:50] You know, those are just words, but there's a whole lot of work here [01:06:54] in just that one goal. [01:06:56] That's right. [01:06:57] And there was a lot of work that went into this. [01:06:59] So Stantec reviewed 20 years of planning and work that you and the community have done. [01:07:05] I did the same thing. [01:07:07] We did the same thing with the executive director [01:07:10] and with Robert at Public Works and the team. [01:07:14] And so this is like, hey, we've studied every idea that you had on the books, [01:07:18] and we threw everything in here that we could. [01:07:21] Why? [01:07:22] Because we want the specificity that brings the plan and the vision to life, [01:07:28] but we want the flexibility. [01:07:31] You know, you want to write it in such a way that you don't miss an opportunity. [01:07:34] So there's an art to this. [01:07:36] You want to be specific enough that you can let everyone know [01:07:40] that we're going to bring the vision to life, [01:07:42] but you've got to be flexible enough to take advantage of any opportunity. [01:07:45] And then, as Board Member Altman will tell you, you can't do it unless it's in your plan. [01:07:50] You can't do it unless it's in your plan. [01:07:53] So how could you be specific on one hand, [01:07:55] but then still give yourself room to make stuff happen? [01:07:58] That's the push and pull of this. [01:08:00] So let's just talk about where we're at in this process, because... [01:08:05] Rick, can I just use it just back on the goals again, just before you go on? [01:08:09] So, you know, always, meanwhile, I love all these, right? [01:08:14] And I have spent time on the items underneath one, [01:08:18] and I think they're right on target. [01:08:20] I really couldn't find, hey, that's worthless or that's not appropriate or anything else like that. [01:08:25] And there's not one that I couldn't get behind and support. [01:08:30] But I've always, you know, my experience tells me if we're going to set a goal, right, [01:08:36] when do we cross the line? [01:08:38] Goals are supposed to be measurable. [01:08:40] Smart, right? [01:08:41] Smart goals, right? [01:08:42] Okay, you know where I'm going with that. [01:08:44] So I don't know if we can just massage these words a little bit so they really become goals, you know, [01:08:52] that, you know, we talked number five, the River of the Arts, you know, [01:08:56] maybe it's enhance, increase the public use of, something there that we can say, well, you know, [01:09:05] that we could point to and say, yeah, we have definitely made, you know, progress on that goal. [01:09:11] Or are we not quite there yet? [01:09:13] Or whatever. [01:09:14] So somehow that we can measure it would be my only input on here. [01:09:20] I like the items. [01:09:22] I like the categories of goals here. [01:09:25] And I love the, what I would call action items underneath, [01:09:30] that you've listed on those goals that would get us there. [01:09:34] And so, you know, that, and part of the way, I guess, is that if we, you know, put the goals in there, [01:09:42] if we cross off the action items, that was done, that would be a way to get to the goal. [01:09:47] But somehow to have something we can measure, I think, would help us. [01:09:53] We've got, you know, there's a goal line. [01:09:54] Where are we going? [01:09:55] When do we get there? [01:09:57] You know, so. [01:09:59] I understand what you're saying, [01:10:00] but I also think we've got to get across the starting line sometimes [01:10:03] and put the team together that's going to look at, say, the library or the park or, you know, the river. [01:10:10] We've got to get that team together. [01:10:12] And then we'll see what we can do this year, what we can do next year, what we can do the year after. [01:10:16] So I don't think that at the starting line you definitely know what time you're going to have [01:10:20] when you finish that particular run or that particular race or whatever. [01:10:24] But you've got to know when you get there. [01:10:26] You know, where is exactly you're going? [01:10:28] When we say the river is your goal, what is it about the river? [01:10:31] And how do we measure when we got there? [01:10:33] Well, may I make an attempt? [01:10:36] Sure. [01:10:38] Back to the goal. [01:10:39] And I don't know if I feel like I'm being rushed or slowed down. [01:10:43] I'm kidding. [01:10:44] I'm confused here. [01:10:46] On the goal, the number five, those are words that are separated by commas [01:10:53] that include all the things we want to be in the goal. [01:10:57] How about this? [01:10:59] Celebrate and share the richness of life on the river in New Port Richey [01:11:05] by fostering an intergenerational embrace of our culture, recreational, you know, [01:11:17] ecological, you know, great city that we have. [01:11:21] I mean, it's all of these things that you've looked at in the past have said [01:11:26] that the river, the river district, that's who we are. [01:11:31] And so if the goal is that we can celebrate this because, again, [01:11:37] I want us to celebrate it now, but I want us to take advantage of those opportunities. [01:11:42] And river life is something that people have on the back of their trucks. [01:11:48] What is it, salt life? [01:11:50] Or there is even, I think, a river life maybe. [01:11:54] Life center at the river. [01:11:55] Yeah. [01:11:56] Or things that you'll see at some of the houses that, like, you know, my river house. [01:12:02] So I think that's kind of a theme that it's not something I made up, [01:12:07] but I think it's what attracts people here. [01:12:10] And if we say celebrate and share the richness of our life on the river, [01:12:15] it speaks to our southern hospitality, you know, [01:12:18] and things that we want to do to let people access it [01:12:22] and bring them in to recreate and be part of the city. [01:12:27] So I think the goal is to turn our river into our ‑‑ [01:12:32] is to actually polish it up as our asset, you know. [01:12:36] I don't know how else to say it. [01:12:39] I like the word celebrate. [01:12:40] So you think we need to basically add some action words to these things to describe what we want to do? [01:12:45] Yeah, if I have a goal, it's like I want to go play a game [01:12:48] or I want to win the tournament or I want to do something, [01:12:52] and that's all I'm trying to bring, put some kind of an action to the goal, you know. [01:13:03] Become something when I grow up, whatever. [01:13:05] You know, those are the goals people have if I grow up. [01:13:10] Still time. [01:13:12] Just to check in, a verb, essentially. [01:13:16] Action. [01:13:17] And then how do you feel about if the river is of that importance, [01:13:21] one of the ways that you could go, and it's something that we talked about behind the scenes, [01:13:26] is the river of such importance that it should have its own goal. [01:13:31] There's a push and pull between trying to have as few goals as possible [01:13:35] but then making sure you recognize the things that are most important. [01:13:38] So if the river is central to who we are, that's an argument for having the river be a separate goal. [01:13:44] So actually to have seven goals where one of the goals, you break out the river [01:13:50] and you celebrate and share the richness of life on the river as being its own goal. [01:13:54] Well, is it that way or is the river hooked into the other six? [01:13:59] Parks and recreation. [01:14:01] Yeah, correct. [01:14:02] Then you would just have arts, culture, parks, recreation, and the environment as its own [01:14:07] and then, you know, there's also something to be said for hierarchy. [01:14:12] So what order do you, where do you want to put it? [01:14:15] Do you want to put it number two? [01:14:17] There's 40 or 50 different priorities in this room right now. [01:14:23] I don't necessarily think you need to break it out [01:14:26] because as I looked at the action items underneath there, he kind of spells it out. [01:14:31] So I'm in, again, to keep everybody, to keep focused and so forth. [01:14:38] You keep it, try to keep it as simple as you can. [01:14:42] And you look at this board and it's just like the chairman said, [01:14:46] there's a lot of work here, a lot of things to do. [01:14:49] And if we start adding too many words to it, it will, I'm afraid we might lose focus. [01:14:57] Narrow the future. [01:14:58] And it's in all of these things too. [01:15:00] We have the highway, the Motorola report, the highway, the downtown, the walkability, [01:15:06] the connectivity, the neighborhoods. [01:15:09] So it's almost like your goal is to, and I've heard it said on the campaign trail for many [01:15:17] elections is, we can't forget our neighborhoods, we're a whole city of the whole CRA, so our [01:15:23] goal is probably to outline our commitment to each of those different aspects of the [01:15:30] city, and then to try to tie them together. [01:15:32] And I think that's the connectivity, the goal, to connect the walkability with the paddleability [01:15:39] or the bikeability or the shopability, you know, to try to tie in that we are a cohesive [01:15:48] community that celebrates river life, and river life is. [01:15:54] You know, imagine paddling downtown to our new park, going out and enjoying a dinner, [01:16:01] and then paddling back. [01:16:02] Or calling the mobile DART to come pick you up so you don't have to fill one of the parking [01:16:08] spaces for the out-of-towners that are coming in, because we've become smart in a way. [01:16:14] Maybe the goal is to be smart so that we don't choke ourselves with the growth that's [01:16:19] got so many people worried, and can preserve that charm that we have. [01:16:25] You put numbers on all six goals, but they're so intertwined, it's really not, it's insane. [01:16:31] River's going to fit into all six of them, you don't need to separate it out. [01:16:35] Just like all the other six mix into together, that's what makes Newport rich. [01:16:42] It's all connected, and I wasn't skipping back and forth to rush you, board member, [01:16:47] or anyone. [01:16:48] It was just because some of these very concepts are articulated. [01:16:52] And going to board member Peter's comment about, hey, how are we going to get there? [01:16:59] Well, that's where you get into the objectives, the specific priorities, but then also, are [01:17:05] we getting there? [01:17:06] And that's the measurement. [01:17:08] But what I would offer is that at this level, you keep it high. [01:17:13] And then as part of our annual strategic planning, as a CRA board, it's got to tie into what [01:17:19] the city does also, but the CRA board should do its own strategic planning. [01:17:23] And so as you're applying the resources of your annual budget, and you're also looking [01:17:27] at a five-year CIP, capital improvements, you're now building out the specific goals, [01:17:34] and now you're having a progressive conversation, because it takes a while to really appreciate [01:17:40] all of these things. [01:17:41] What makes a community safe? [01:17:43] What makes it clean? [01:17:44] How are we going to measure that in a meaningful way? [01:17:46] Are we going to benchmark? [01:17:48] So we don't necessarily get there in this document. [01:17:50] We get there in your strategic work plan, which is updated on the annual cycle. [01:17:56] Because this plan right here, this is a bigger picture. [01:17:59] It's kind of a, you know, you could update it every five years. [01:18:03] You could update it every 10 years, if it was written in such a way. [01:18:07] It's your annual work plan where you're going to really get in the weeds. [01:18:10] You're going to attach more detailed budgets, more detailed timelines, and what we call [01:18:15] KPIs, right? [01:18:16] Key Performance Indicators, and specific outcomes. [01:18:19] And it also, it's, you know, some are going to take more years than other goals here might [01:18:27] come about in a year. [01:18:28] Others might take five years. [01:18:30] I mean, let's be blunt. [01:18:33] The beautiful, incredible gateway side of downtown, when I read the plan for 2012, there [01:18:43] was a strategic redevelopment action plan in 2011 that put that, had the inspiration [01:18:52] of downtown Melbourne's gateway sign. [01:18:55] So that was in a strategic redevelopment action plan from 2011. [01:19:00] And in 2011, you were still in the depths of the Great Recession, which was really a [01:19:04] depression here. [01:19:06] You weren't in a position to make it happen. [01:19:09] It took a whole new team coming together, working hard, smarting together. [01:19:12] It took the winds at your back, improving economics, and you got there. [01:19:17] But you put the idea down when you had it, and then you waited for the stars to align, [01:19:21] and you didn't give up, and it happened. [01:19:24] And that's what this plan is about, making sure your good ideas are captured. [01:19:29] Yeah, Greg, I'm good with this, because what we have there, I didn't mean to get into, [01:19:36] you know, measurable, but really what it is, is those are goal categories. [01:19:42] And really, those are the goal categories, and you look under there, and then you see [01:19:46] the individual goals that build into that category that are all measurable. [01:19:51] You know, it's like, you know, under here, one of them, for example, is the city goal [01:19:57] of providing a park within a 10-minute walk of every home. [01:20:00] That's measurable, you know? [01:20:02] That's easily measurable. [01:20:03] You know, the city and others provide a full calendar of special events to celebrate and [01:20:09] reinforce the character of the community. [01:20:12] Do we have a calendar of special events that does that? [01:20:15] That's either a yes or no. [01:20:16] Have we met that goal or not? [01:20:17] So all those become measurable. [01:20:19] So I'll back up on mine a little bit about how you listed the goals and say that I'm [01:20:25] okay with those not being specifically measured. [01:20:27] I'm really, I look at them as their goal categories, and underneath that are all the specific things [01:20:33] that can be looked at and measured and determined. [01:20:37] Are we making progress? [01:20:39] And so I'm, so, you know, I'll back up entirely. [01:20:45] As I think about it more and what I've reviewed, I'm good with it. [01:20:49] I'm real good with it, matter of fact. [01:20:51] Could you put him up there one more time? [01:20:54] Because... [01:20:55] And again, this was just the intro. [01:20:56] I mean, Matt can bring up the detailed presentation. [01:20:59] Oh. [01:21:00] If you just put him back up there one more time. [01:21:04] You said it's important to have a few. [01:21:17] Thank you. [01:21:18] I mean, it's like safe, clean, and beautiful. [01:21:22] I mean, that's like telling me to wash my hands every time after I use the bathroom. [01:21:27] I mean, who doesn't want to be safe, clean, and beautiful? [01:21:30] I mean, is that really a city, I mean, it's a nice city goal, but if we're major goals, [01:21:36] it's like to make, you know, it's resilient, high-quality, interconnected roads and infrastructure. [01:21:47] It's an, you know, it's engineering words. [01:21:51] I mean, if we want to be inspirational, let's, we've studied these areas. [01:21:56] A highway corridor that, you know, Muldrow said put a back door to our Highway 19 stuff, [01:22:04] put some, change Highway 19, and I think our goal is a transformed Highway 19 corridor. [01:22:12] So maybe one goal is, you know, focus on our main infrastructure and main roads and make [01:22:19] sure they're safe and to transform the corridor. [01:22:22] Maybe the other one is really a downtown goal that says that, I mean, if you're going to [01:22:29] say does something meet that goal, I mean, everything is going to want to meet safe, [01:22:33] clean, and beautiful. [01:22:34] I don't know that it's a separate goal. [01:22:36] But when you look at it, Pete, you know, we're talking about the, right there, the streets, [01:22:50] interconnected roads, and they have that, underneath that, if you look at the subcategories [01:22:56] there, and they talk about the U.S. 19 corridor. [01:23:01] They talk about the streetscape project, widen the sidewalks. [01:23:06] The goal is to, you know, I still think that, and what does safe, clean, beautiful mean? [01:23:13] What, if you look at it, there's 12 things under there that puts it in measurable, you [01:23:19] know, community policing activity. [01:23:21] Did we do that yesterday? [01:23:23] So I think as you read into it, and it's, you know, what do we got here, 60 some pages, [01:23:31] that it really details it, and I'm not sure, you know, my, you know, I would compliment [01:23:38] the staff for putting it together here because it's, I can't find something that they've [01:23:42] left out. [01:23:43] Yeah, I think the content is good. [01:23:45] I think the point is, if these are your six goals, and I just joined the Coast to Coast [01:23:51] Trail group on Facebook, and I don't know if anyone saw the post that was on there. [01:23:56] I think a member out there did see it, but it was like, I'm hoping to see New Port Richey [01:24:01] be the western, you know, reach to the Gulf from Titusville, and somebody responded, and [01:24:07] I was going to read it because it's terrible, but it says, oh, New Port Richey is trashy, [01:24:12] nothing but needles, and a really negative commentary on a Coast to Coast with a bunch [01:24:19] of people saying they want to go to Tarpon Springs, they want to go to Clearwater, oh, [01:24:23] we're going to go to St. Pete, oh, we won't go to New Port Richey. [01:24:27] So for those of us that lived our whole life here, when people say, well, in Pinellas County [01:24:32] you have lights there, but once you get across the border, you're in Pasco County, and so [01:24:38] somehow, I'm not ashamed of Pasco County, I'm not ashamed of our city, but I wrote [01:24:44] back, we have a beautiful river, somebody says, yeah, but you're on the intercoastal, [01:24:47] it's like, no, we're not, and we're closer to Tarpon and Dunedin than you're going to [01:24:51] get if you cross 15 million streets trying to go from Tampa across all of those highways [01:24:57] to get to the beach. [01:24:59] So my point is, our goal is not to be seen as a place that is not beautiful, and so I [01:25:13] think the goal to me is to be recognized as a place, and maybe that goes to your award-winning [01:25:22] city commentary, but that's the goal. [01:25:25] I mean, that is, be recognized as a safe, beautiful, clean city. [01:25:32] That would be the goal, and maybe that's what I'm trying to get at. [01:25:35] Be recognized as, and that would be, and how do we do that, that would fall in there. [01:25:41] So that's all I'm saying, like, again, putting a verb in there, so that it becomes a goal. [01:25:52] I'm fearful that, well, one, I really appreciate, and we appreciate the input, but if we could [01:25:58] bring up the full update on the Community Redevelopment Plan, presentation three is [01:26:03] in the title, I feel like I'm probably doing you a disservice because I was trying to keep [01:26:09] it to a high level, but you can't have a deep conversation without going deep, and I was [01:26:14] trying to be mindful of time, and it's really how you want to skin this particular cat. [01:26:19] Do you want to release this to the process and the additional drafting, or do you want [01:26:24] to get this more tuned up before we do that? [01:26:27] Because if we do, it probably would behoove us to go to a, and schedule a workshop for [01:26:31] him, so we can go into it. [01:26:32] I love this stuff. [01:26:33] I'll order his pizza. [01:26:34] I will move these tables into the square, and we could workshop this until Good Friday. [01:26:40] I'm your Huckleberry. [01:26:41] I'd be happy to do that, but I'm just imagining the reaction. [01:26:48] But we can do that. [01:26:53] I think there's a lot done here, and there's a lot of information. [01:26:58] I want to show that, Mr. Chair, if we can get the presentation three in the shared folder. [01:27:11] Because it's there, but we were at the high level intro, and we'll be able to show it [01:27:17] and get into the weeds. [01:27:19] And we're right there, using this as an example, because if a consensus of the board wants [01:27:27] a specific project to be an extension of a specific trail, we can add that. [01:27:35] We should add that. [01:27:36] If that's the will of the majority of this board, then we should put it in there. [01:27:41] But already, I want to be able to point out on the slide when it comes up, if you go to [01:27:46] page 37 of the PowerPoint presentation, when it says support the City's efforts to adopt [01:27:55] and or implement its Greenways and Trails Master Plan, the beauty of this is that if [01:28:02] you adopt that as part of your City Master Plan when you sit as the City Council, the [01:28:09] CRA can support it with the existing language without doing an update to the Community Redevelopment [01:28:15] Plan. [01:28:16] There's going to be the flexibility to do that. [01:28:19] And because I was trying to get you through it as expeditiously as possible, Matt hasn't [01:28:26] come up and brought you through the weeds of all of these yet. [01:28:30] But let's see. [01:28:32] There it is. [01:28:33] So support the City's efforts to adopt and or implement its Repaving Master Plan, Sidewalk [01:28:37] Master Plan, Resiliency Plan, Stormwater Master Plan, which that was Tuesday night, the update. [01:28:44] We took some public input on that. [01:28:46] Robert and his team are doing a great job as usual. [01:28:48] Golf Cart Master Plan, Greenways and Trails Master Plan. [01:28:52] So the City has a plan, the City can amend its plan as the Council sees fit with your [01:28:57] input as a Board, with the Community's input. [01:29:00] And then based on this language, we would be able to bring it to life. [01:29:04] Streetlights Program, Traffic Calming Program, Waste Finding Signage Program. [01:29:09] Let me go back to that safe, clean, and beautiful, too, because that's near and dear to most [01:29:13] of us. [01:29:14] To my heart, ensure a safe, clean, and beautiful public realm. [01:29:21] Maintain an enhanced community-oriented policing program. [01:29:24] Crime prevention through environmental design. [01:29:26] Public information programs by code. [01:29:28] Litter and graffiti removal programs. [01:29:30] Public property maintenance programs. [01:29:32] Consider vacant property fence regulations. [01:29:35] Designate and beautify gateways into the City. [01:29:37] Work with Pasco County and others. [01:29:39] So it's providing that additional level of detail. [01:29:43] You've done that for each of the goals. [01:29:45] But it's just draft language to get you started to the level of detail you want to go in the [01:29:50] type of meeting you want to have. [01:29:52] You just let us know what you want and we will do it. [01:29:54] I like the word draft. [01:29:56] Yeah. [01:29:57] And that's what I think this... [01:30:00] this is good this is our guidelines you know for the direction that we want to [01:30:04] go as we break these down but that this is this is what we're talking about now [01:30:08] is adopting this yeah that's what I would like to go ahead and do this well [01:30:13] you say you want to adopt it but you want to call it a draft so those are no [01:30:17] that's not saying no don't don't don't you just said I like the word I did but [01:30:22] I didn't stop and I went on and said okay okay because I'm happy with it I'm [01:30:26] happy I'm happy with it that's what I want to say yeah and I'll make them I'll [01:30:32] make a motion that we adopt the CRA plan as we discussed and reviewed it as as [01:30:37] it's presented to us oh yeah just give us a second just a second I'll second [01:30:47] you have any public input anybody like to speak [01:30:53] come on up come on line up I enjoyed the discussion and I think it's good [01:31:06] sometimes for you guys to speak first but I didn't want you to forget us thank [01:31:10] you thank Laurie Baker five eight five three Lafayette I think the sign is [01:31:15] really beautiful I think it says historic New Port Richey and I looked at [01:31:22] goal five historic was meant missing I looked at goal one and it said historic [01:31:30] downtown I think there's more historic about the town than downtown there are [01:31:37] lots of houses on the river that are historic lots of other properties that [01:31:42] are historic that are not right downtown like the library here the other thing is [01:31:48] I would really like if you think historic New Port Richey is important to [01:31:54] say historic I think we should reactivate the historic preservation [01:32:00] board thank you why did you not allow them to speak first we have somebody [01:32:14] else so mr. chair when I come down I just want to point out in goal one under [01:32:23] healthy neighborhoods a historic downtown a transform us 19 corridor one [01:32:28] of the big things that we're proposing is to implement a neighborhood improvement [01:32:32] a community enhancement program for each of the neighborhoods in New Port Richey [01:32:37] there's roughly let's say there's 19 we want to go through each one with this [01:32:41] process that's identified here on page 33 of the presentation and as part of [01:32:47] each master plan we want to map historic buildings and resources and register [01:32:52] resources as appropriate and then under goal six award-winning administration [01:32:58] and collaborations with community institutions stakeholders and citizens I [01:33:01] just want to point out that in there talking about how we want to work with [01:33:08] citizens we have the historic preservation board specifically identified by by name [01:33:17] so we have been listening and we have been working as a team and you guys have [01:33:24] been so so much grace helping me relearn the community we made sure that we put [01:33:31] that in there specifically so I just I want you to know that and I want them to [01:33:35] know that and if you move forward with this draft tonight we're taking our show [01:33:40] on the road we're gonna have public forums we're gonna have public workshops [01:33:46] right in here and we will have pizza and we will have fun with planning our [01:33:51] future all night long and we will we will go as far as we want to go thank [01:33:57] you let's go ahead all right my name is Patty Stevenson five seven one nine [01:34:04] Lafayette Street New Port Richey I'm here because of family tragedy tonight [01:34:09] my cousin Bevis Stevenson Carey her granddaughter was attacked by a pitbull [01:34:16] while delivering packages for Amazon she is it right now at the trauma center and [01:34:23] bayonet point okay Gulf High School the old 1922 Gulf High School needs to be [01:34:31] preserved with all of its properties intact we have a beautiful vision for [01:34:38] every bit of the 7.9 acres we have talked to St. Louis University they're [01:34:44] willing to come in from marine sciences to be able to be there for H projects to [01:34:51] be done on what was the St. Clair football field we have a community [01:34:56] project where we will be making vegetation vegetables available in a [01:35:04] community garden over there we have talked to all of these people we have [01:35:09] people who will come in and absolutely make this project live beautiful and the [01:35:16] school building will be preserved there will be people like the lady who spoke [01:35:21] earlier who was for music we have people that are quilters that are [01:35:27] wanting to come in and use that building we have community support these green [01:35:32] t-shirts are the history they are their pioneer families of past West Pasco [01:35:39] County all of their relatives have taken steps in that building that riverfront [01:35:46] property you may see it as commercial we see it as a community project the [01:35:53] people of this town need that green space they need that building for all [01:35:59] the things that they want to do all the hopes and dreams of this citizenship [01:36:06] that are representative by these green t-shirts are available every one of us [01:36:13] loves that property every one of us wants to see it exist as a whole 7.9 [01:36:19] acres as when the school board is wanting to sell it to the city they're [01:36:25] wanting it preserved that's the reason the price was set at what it was to [01:36:30] preserve that property for the community use and I think every one of you needs [01:36:37] to know that and understand it that building that football field all of [01:36:43] those properties we have our hearts and souls invested in [01:36:57] mr. chair brought up the slide on historic golf high school as part of [01:37:01] this proposal you know it's the same as we represented at the last meeting your [01:37:07] flashlights and your pocket is on don't burn a hole in your pocket your [01:37:12] flashlight is on well that's so I can see where I'm going [01:37:20] there you go thank you Peter Terry Klein 6807 Parkside Drive New Port Richey when you redid the park you took out three hickory trees we were [01:37:38] promised that we would get the hickory trees replaced the city of New Port Richey did Parks and Recreation did make an effort and they bought three [01:37:48] little twigs now my great-great-grandsons might be able to [01:37:53] enjoy them trees later on they put in the the docks around Orange Lake they [01:38:00] took out a large cedar tree that was there it was a huge beautiful cedar tree [01:38:07] the only thing wrong with it is it had a burrow on its side when I looked into it [01:38:13] we talked to the arborist that they hired and everything they said well [01:38:17] Terry that tree is going to die in 30 years now the city is a tree city now [01:38:26] you're going to landscape the entrance into the city I hope that you're going [01:38:34] to use native trees to do this and not the laurels and maples and stuff they [01:38:40] see but you really look into it and try to replace it with native plants and not [01:38:47] whatever other kind of plants you call them and I hope that someday the city [01:38:54] will keep their promise to me and replace those trees there in the park I [01:39:02] was told that they did it that that cedar would be replaced with two small [01:39:08] ones and I was told that the other trees would really be replaced and they didn't [01:39:16] I have to admit they didn't make an effort but they were just little twigs [01:39:20] about this tall and they lived about a month so I just hope that when in your [01:39:26] development that you keep in mind that we are a tree city and that native [01:39:31] plants are more important to us than non-native species thank you [01:39:46] I know we're discussing the draft before you this evening and I want to [01:40:00] just bring point to goal number five where it does say environmental and [01:40:04] looking at the items under that there isn't anything that qualifies as [01:40:08] environmental it talks about arts it talks about culture but there's nothing [01:40:12] for sustainability in the environment or our farming communities or anything [01:40:16] urban like that so I just want to make sure that as you go forward please [01:40:20] really look at those items and those goals and make sure they're aligning [01:40:24] with those items and in that are broken down because there isn't anything [01:40:27] representational of environmental at this point [01:40:31] Rita King 10926 Bounty Street New Port Richey while we the Gulf High alumni [01:40:46] and the community while we the Gulf High alumni and the community know the [01:40:55] original Gulf High School property on Grand Boulevard is mentioned and [01:40:59] recommended in the proposed CRA plan it is not a confirmed plan of action and we [01:41:05] realize that the city does not own it right now but when you do we respectfully [01:41:12] request that this property be legally included in the plan Florida [01:41:17] redevelopment attorney Cliff Shepard stated three things that are needed for [01:41:23] a project be in the CRA plan be in the district and be in the CRA budget this [01:41:30] year's budget of 4.2 million dollars can be amended as can every year's budget [01:41:38] given going forward the key points in using the entire property for this [01:41:46] community is one increase the quality of life by connecting educational [01:41:51] engagement with the local history culture and community gardening [01:41:56] recreation music and sports events to ensure a growing neighborhood would have [01:42:03] a place of activities for all ages in helping facilitate development of that [01:42:09] community and three project qualifies and follows the city code of ordinances [01:42:15] under land development chapter 6 land uses as you were talking about public [01:42:21] spaces and it also is compliant with the various sections in the Florida state [01:42:30] statute title 11 chapter 163 which you all know very well and I have a copy of [01:42:36] some of those that you haven't mentioned that it also applies utilizing the [01:42:42] historic building and the St. Clair field and the riverfront property for [01:42:47] community enrichment will enhance the city and become the bridge that connects [01:42:53] it to the future we urge this council to be forward-thinking and when the [01:42:59] property is purchased please consider the future generations and include this [01:43:05] property in its entirety in the CRA plan and as far as environmental that is [01:43:13] also in the plan that we would like to present there are generations of us that [01:43:18] will not forget or give up on this vision for our community thank you [01:43:35] hey Connelly 5508 Vermont Avenue I just wanted to first and foremost say thank [01:43:41] you to everybody on the dais and in the team to present this to us all I know [01:43:47] that the CRA is a lot of moving parts and I've learned a lot about it over the [01:43:51] past few years but it holds a special place in my heart as a potential to [01:43:56] change a lot of things and continue a lot of the good things and I hope we [01:44:01] continue to do that I echo everybody else's comments on the community input [01:44:05] and I'm so glad that you guys are trying to do that and do it even more and [01:44:10] continuing to include things like the old Gulf High spelled out in the plan [01:44:14] and I think as some others said there could be some more detail on how that [01:44:18] plays to the environment to our transit to our economy as relates to certain [01:44:24] tourist industries and whatnot that may be related to the environment but most [01:44:28] importantly I think it's great that we're having this conversation all [01:44:31] together and that we've come so far in my short time being back in New Port Richey moving from school in Tampa and having grown up in the area and I'd [01:44:39] never ever thought that I would call New Port Richey home for the rest of my [01:44:42] life but I hope I am here forever and I hope that we continue to do all the [01:44:47] great things so just thank you very much and keep it up [01:44:52] anybody else like to speak now we'll bring [01:45:00] back for a vote? All those in favor? Can we understand what the motion is one [01:45:08] more time because I heard it said that this is a draft and if I may. I heard a [01:45:17] discussion that as the result of this vote to approve this that there will be [01:45:22] follow-ups with more hearings and more discussions and I just I want to [01:45:28] understand that. I want to understand that process before I vote. [01:45:37] Right. As Councilman Altman is indicating at this point we were just asking for [01:45:44] additional direction from you. We have more work to do before we bring back a [01:45:49] final plan for your consideration and approval. So we're asking you to keep [01:45:54] moving forward. May I just address it at that point one bit? I'll try to be as [01:46:08] concise as I can. On a couple of notes we talked at the first meeting and I [01:46:16] know you've kept notes of those and I haven't seen that all of that verbiage [01:46:20] reflected but as it had been suggested this plan when it's done is going to be [01:46:25] broad enough so that it will allow us to have the flexibility to have things as [01:46:31] they develop whether it's a trail development plan or has been discussed. [01:46:38] Tourism and museums and performance halls, visitors centers, all of those [01:46:45] things are subject to the Pasco County Tourist Development Tax. In fact, Dade [01:46:51] City got $250,000 to have something called the spoke which is part of its [01:46:57] address to the trail and then you have to get somebody to stay in it. So a [01:47:05] museum has to be operated as a nonprofit museum. A visitor center has to be [01:47:11] operated by a chamber of commerce or some kind of a civic organization that [01:47:17] could operate that or by the city itself. So as to some of the ideas that have [01:47:23] been suggested for the Schwepman Center and what I know is the interest of this [01:47:29] group that's been here, I think that it would be helpful when we have the work [01:47:35] sessions if we could to do some on these public private projects and [01:47:43] some on the private projects that we have because we've got a lot of money [01:47:48] invested to be turned over for private development and I think rather than [01:47:53] having all of these six or eight projects it would be nice if we could [01:47:57] have our work sessions on those elements so that the folks that are here that are [01:48:03] interested in the public projects a public space and those improvements that [01:48:08] we could kind of focus on that when we have that particular workshop or that [01:48:13] element of the plan because I'm as interested in the new boat ramp and that [01:48:20] public-private partnership or of the SunTrust building that's been there for [01:48:25] a long time but I'm concerned that when we have a process that's going to go [01:48:32] back to the not the drawing boards but to the development phase that we have an [01:48:41] end date for this thing so we can get the plan approved and be able to start [01:48:46] activating it in our budget process so I don't know the timeline but I think it [01:48:51] goes back to the deliverables that Mike that you were talking about if can we [01:48:57] get a schedule that we don't have to have multiple meetings but that we can [01:49:03] be able to see a progress and the reason that I ask is because the one thing I [01:49:11] keep talking about is the short term you know you that four years that you've [01:49:16] been here now and you've got one more meeting before you take a break or [01:49:20] whatever happens after that and a lot of the things that that I've worked on from [01:49:27] 1986 when I first got on the first time as a city councilman there were a [01:49:32] member a number of times when projects that I pushed outlived me before I ever [01:49:39] saw them done and sometimes didn't get done because they got changed to [01:49:42] something else by someone else but the city needs to keep having that energy [01:49:48] put into it so I'm really wanting to make sure that we can act when we have [01:49:54] interest I'm just going to read this it's only a short sentence but this is [01:49:58] from the doctor at St. Leo University and I want to clarify rumors about St. [01:50:04] Leo University but she wrote me today that she's conferred with Laura Altfeld [01:50:10] the chair of the natural science department that I met in December she is [01:50:15] definitely interested in the coastal and river marine resource research outpost [01:50:22] concept and she's excited about involving the students in working with [01:50:27] New Port Richey to evaluate the tree and plant life along the river and to [01:50:33] identify and remove invasive vegetation and she and she's Heather Parker doctor [01:50:42] and Dean of the College of Arts Sciences and Allied Services from St. Leo [01:50:46] University she's just one of the people who has expressed an interest in our [01:50:51] river and research and maybe some college or school activities Josh [01:50:57] McCart who I know you know the McCart family who turned down a great offer [01:51:03] with the state so he could stay here in New Port Richey and keep doing the [01:51:07] Energy Management Center is overflowing in that facility and he's working the [01:51:12] school board to try to get them to agree to invest more money in the marine [01:51:17] research education for the Pasco school board Pasco Hernandez State College [01:51:24] marine biologist is interested in bringing those college students here and [01:51:29] I'm sure USF would as well as the University of Florida with their [01:51:33] agricultural side so I just want to make sure we push the ability that when [01:51:38] somebody says they're interested that we don't that we take advantage of that [01:51:44] even if it's a small step secondly I understand I'm told that that the [01:51:50] Science Museum the Discovery Museum is perhaps going to try to present [01:51:57] themselves again they had they had a day at Chasco Fiesta but they did a big [01:52:02] study and decided New Port Richey was a place they'd like to do a Discovery [01:52:06] Center it may take them three or four years but I want to make sure that when [01:52:11] folks want to get involved in our city and work with us that we that we find a [01:52:17] way to embrace it and I'm very encouraged to see Debbie that you've [01:52:21] met with them and and that there is progress with that museum to the to the [01:52:27] Suncoast Theater again we've talked about getting them support and help and [01:52:34] I don't want to have this process to go back to have meetings like the ones in [01:52:42] the slides that you had since September 14th of 2022 with focus group sessions [01:52:49] to not allow us to focus on a short-term activity while we're going forward so [01:52:57] I'm happy to take a deliberative steps forward but I think that you've come a [01:53:03] long way with this CRA plan as long as it's broad enough as you said Mr. [01:53:10] Chairman that we can adopt changes to the plans that we've identified in the [01:53:16] plan now I'm I'm getting ready to say after this election is over in a few [01:53:26] weeks I want to stay for a couple more years too I've got the fever just like [01:53:31] Kate and and and McCart I want to be here to help see this stuff go so that [01:53:39] would give me only two years under the charter before I'm out for the third [01:53:43] time I get kicked off and and I just don't want to keep you know waiting we [01:53:51] seen a lot of good progress I'm not complaining but as said before when [01:53:56] somebody comes to you and say they're interested in helping maybe we ask the [01:54:02] school board say can can folks come in and start looking at the plants but [01:54:06] when somebody offers us help I don't want to have some concern that there [01:54:12] might be some jealousy between the South Florida folks and the st. Leo [01:54:17] University folks I can say on their behalf that they have said they would [01:54:22] work with the local community to save our schools group they would only like [01:54:26] maybe a room or two in there but they would love to try to dip their toe in [01:54:30] the river as a university and start to offer music and art classes and you know [01:54:37] students want to get involved and so if we can get that kind of energy and maybe [01:54:41] even competition between those different folks to help us I'm just making a big [01:54:48] pitch that those who are out there I see I see Doug here tonight from the [01:54:55] theater done incredible things we've all agreed that our folks from the [01:55:01] orchestra we're holding their valuable music and we have empty buildings over [01:55:08] there so I think it's it's helpful for us to show some progress so I'll vote [01:55:13] for the motion I just wanted to make that appeal during the motion thank you [01:55:17] for the time that you've given me well I think up here on the view on the board [01:55:24] right now the next steps I think it's answering a lot of the questions that [01:55:28] have been asked or been concerned here and also out there in the audience so [01:55:33] moving forward I'm like anything else anything else I'm good all those all [01:55:41] those in favor before you vote mr. mayor if I could just clarify so the motion is [01:55:44] that you're approving the draft and you're directing the staff to move [01:55:47] forward to bring it back for a final approval of the plan is that my [01:55:51] understanding thank all those in favor signify by aye aye those opposed that's [01:55:59] a four zip mr. chair if I might and madam executive director I will [01:56:04] absolutely we will put dates to this and and the timeline that was requested [01:56:08] absolutely 100% all right thank you very much okay [01:56:14] communication when I start I really don't have anything tonight I mean I'm [01:56:20] just looking forward to going through this process and you know putting [01:56:25] together and identifying these things we want to do you know I think is the [01:56:30] process goes I mean there's always there's always some element of a little [01:56:33] bit of wiggle room so you can you know adapt as you go because things change as [01:56:38] you move forward with new new new opportunities new you know whatever it

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    Approval of March 19, 2024 CRA Meeting Minutes

    Approval of the minutes from the March 19, 2024 CRA meeting.