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1. 1Call to Order – Roll Call▶ 0:00
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   Pledge of Allegiance

   Pledge of Allegiance and a moment of silence.

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   [00:00:20] We stand for the pledge and a moment of silence. [00:00:24] I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America [00:00:29] and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, [00:00:33] indivisible with liberty and justice for all.

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   Moment of Silence

   Moment of silence observed at the start of the council meeting.

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   [00:00:41] Thank you. [00:00:59] Are you ready?

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4. 4

   Approval of March 5, 2024 Regular Meeting Minutes

   approved

   Council approved the minutes from the March 5, 2024 regular meeting by a unanimous 5-0 vote.

   • motion:Approve the March 5, 2024 regular meeting minutes. (passed)5–0

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   [00:01:04] I need approval of the March 5th, 2024 regular meeting minutes. [00:01:09] Move for approval. [00:01:10] Second. [00:01:11] All those in favor? [00:01:13] Aye. [00:01:16] Aye. [00:01:17] Five yes. [00:01:19] All right.

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5. 5

   Swearing-In of New Police Officer Jeff Losinski

   Officer Jeff Losinski was sworn in as a new police officer for the City of New Port Richey. Chief Cochin introduced him, highlighting his 21+ years of experience at Largo Police Department, including roles as SWAT sniper/team leader, sergeant, school resource officer, and POP unit member. The City Clerk administered the oath of office.

   🏢Largo Police Department🏢New Port Richey Police Department👤Chief Cochin👤Jamie Losinski👤Jeff Losinski👤Justin Losinski👤Lynn#Distinguished Service Medal for Gang Investigations (2012)#FTO Program#Medal of Valor (2021)#Oath of Office#POP (Problem-Oriented Policing) unit

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   [00:01:20] Swearing in of the Duplee Saucer. [00:01:23] Jeff Lawsons. [00:01:26] If you could. [00:01:29] Thank you, Mayor, Council, City Manager, City Attorney, City Clerk. [00:01:36] It is absolutely critical for any organization, but especially the [00:01:39] police department, that you hire smart. [00:01:42] It's definitely the key to your success. [00:01:43] I think over the last year, you've seen several of our hires come before you [00:01:47] and they're just assets to the police department. [00:01:50] Well, Officer Lewinsky is without a doubt another asset to our police department. [00:01:55] So we hired Officer Lewinsky on February 26th of this year, and prior to his [00:02:01] employment, we like to really look for experience if we can, because bringing [00:02:05] experience along is definitely a big asset to the department, but prior to his [00:02:10] employment with us, he worked his whole policing career in the Largo Police [00:02:14] Department starting in 2002. [00:02:16] During his career with the Largo PD, he was a field training officer, high [00:02:21] liability instructor, school resource officer, and served for eight years in [00:02:26] their problem-oriented policing unit, which is commonly known as POP, where [00:02:31] they were recognized as the gang unit of the year by the state of Florida. [00:02:34] Quite impressive. [00:02:36] Officer Lewinsky joined the Largo PD SWAT team in 2006, was active on the team [00:02:41] for 17 years, where he was a sniper and a team leader. [00:02:45] In 2019, he was promoted to sergeant and served in that role until his [00:02:48] retirement in 2023. [00:02:50] So here we have an officer that's got a host of experience, has basically [00:02:55] touched almost every aspect of the police department. [00:02:58] That's exactly what we're looking for. [00:03:00] We're bringing that experience into New Port Richey Police Department. [00:03:04] Jeff has already gone through his orientation phase and is in the first [00:03:07] phase of the FTO program, and he's definitely hitting the ground running. [00:03:12] Officer Lewinsky earned his accolades during his tenure at Largo PD, which [00:03:16] included the Distinguished Service Medal for Gang Investigations in 2012 and the [00:03:20] Medal of Valor for a SWAT call-out in 2021. [00:03:24] On a personal note, Officer Lewinsky has been married for 15 years to his wife, [00:03:27] Jamie, and he has a son, Justin, who is 14. [00:03:30] They can't be here tonight because they have a sporting engagement out of town. [00:03:34] So we're sorry about that. [00:03:36] Officer Lewinsky and his wife are proud foster parents of an eight-year-old boy [00:03:40] named Lynn. [00:03:41] That's awesome. [00:03:42] That's awesome, Jeff. [00:03:43] Thank you. [00:03:44] Outside of work, Officer Lewinsky enjoys golf, and he works out to stay active. [00:03:48] I think the last officer I brought for you said his interest was raising fish, but [00:03:53] that's a little different. [00:03:55] Most of his spare time is spent traveling to watch Justin play with his travel [00:03:59] baseball team. [00:04:00] We are proud and excited to have such a talented and well-trained officer amongst [00:04:03] our ranks. [00:04:04] Jeff, welcome aboard. [00:04:06] We welcome you with open arms, and you will definitely be an asset to the [00:04:10] department. [00:04:10] I love your experience, and this is exactly what I want to bring to New Port Richey, especially with all those community policing elements. [00:04:16] Do you want to say anything to the council? [00:04:19] I just wanted to say thank you to Chief Cochin, the police department, and the [00:04:22] city for allowing me the opportunity to serve your community, and I look forward [00:04:25] to what the future holds. [00:04:26] Thank you. [00:04:29] Anybody? [00:04:30] Madam City Manager, anything? [00:04:31] Welcome to the force. [00:04:33] Thank you. [00:04:34] Welcome. [00:04:35] Congratulations. [00:04:36] I like it. [00:04:40] I like the chief's first comment. [00:04:41] He said you were intelligent, so that was great. [00:04:45] He doesn't coach baseball. [00:04:46] He coaches soccer, the mayor. [00:04:49] I'm the ref. [00:04:50] I'm fired. [00:04:50] I'm the necessary evil. [00:04:52] Yeah. [00:04:53] At this point, if we could ask the clerk to come down to administer the oath, and [00:04:55] I'll step out of the way. [00:05:03] Okay. [00:05:04] All right. [00:05:04] If you'll raise your right hand, and I, and state your name. [00:05:08] I, Jeff Lesinski. [00:05:09] A citizen of the state of Florida and of the United States of America. [00:05:13] A citizen of the state of Florida in the United States of America. [00:05:16] And being employed by or an officer of the city of New Port Richey. [00:05:20] And being employed by or an officer of the city of New Port Richey. [00:05:23] And a recipient of public funds as such employee or officer. [00:05:28] And a recipient of public funds and such employee or officer. [00:05:31] Do hereby solemnly swear or affirm. [00:05:34] Do hereby solemnly swear or affirm. [00:05:36] That I will support the Constitution of the United States and of the state of Florida. [00:05:40] That I will support the Constitution of the United States and the state of Florida. [00:05:44] And that I will support, protect and defend. [00:05:46] And that I will support, protect and defend. [00:05:48] The Constitution and government of the United States and the state of Florida. [00:05:53] The Constitution and government of the United States and the state of Florida. [00:05:56] Against all enemies domestic or foreign. [00:05:58] Against all enemies, domestic or foreign. [00:06:00] That I will bear true faith, loyalty and allegiance to the same. [00:06:04] That I will bear true faith, loyalty and allegiance to the same. [00:06:07] That I will uphold the ordinances of the city of New Port Richey, Florida. [00:06:11] That I will uphold the ordinances of the city of New Port Richey, Florida. [00:06:14] And that I will faithfully perform all the duties of police officer of said city. [00:06:19] And that I will faithfully perform all the duties of police officer of said city. [00:06:22] So help me God. [00:06:23] So help me God. [00:06:24] Congratulations. [00:06:34] New Port Richey's finest for showing up tonight. [00:06:35] Thank you guys. [00:06:36] I'd like to, I'd like them to come on down and then our marketing person get a [00:06:39] picture with all you guys. [00:06:41] Thank you, man. [00:06:42] Come on down guys. [00:06:43] Come on. [00:06:45] They like to stay in the back. [00:06:46] I don't know why. [00:06:47] They know where all the extras are. [00:06:48] Yeah, exactly. [00:06:54] All right, where were you? [00:07:01] Straight ahead guys. [00:07:04] Form the ranks. [00:07:08] Jeff, get next to the chief. [00:07:10] There you go. [00:07:11] You're tall enough to block the podium. [00:07:20] Strike a pose. [00:07:21] There it is. [00:07:25] Thank you, ma'am.

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   Proclamation - Florida Loquat Day

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   Mayor Chopper Davis read a proclamation declaring April 6, 2024 as Florida Loquat Day in New Port Richey, recognizing the 10th annual Florida Loquat Festival hosted by Ecology Florida at Sims Park. A representative accepted the proclamation and described the festival's expansion, including loquat tea and beer, and the new partnership with the West Pasco Historical Society.

   • motion:Proclaim April 6, 2024 as Florida Loquat Day in New Port Richey. (passed)

   📍Francis Avenue📍Sims Park🏢Ecology Florida🏢FarmNet🏢LSU🏢University of Florida🏢West Pasco Historical Society👤Chopper Davis👤Dell Deschamps#Collard Green Festival#Florida Loquat Day#Florida Loquat Festival#Global Tea Championship#Okra Occasion#Sweet Potato Roundup

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   [00:07:34] Floor low. [00:07:34] Quiet. [00:07:35] Um, Dave proclamation. [00:07:41] We have Mr. [00:07:41] Dow the shop. [00:07:42] Yeah, we'll get that down here. [00:07:43] Once. [00:07:45] And. [00:07:47] Oh, no, he sent me to do the work today. [00:07:54] We don't know about. [00:08:01] This is a proclamation of the office of the mayor of the city of New Port Richey, whereas the loquat tree is an attractive tree that provide produces [00:08:09] luscious fruit that is nutritious and delicious. [00:08:12] And whereas the loquat tree is a member of the rose family, kin to plums and [00:08:15] pears, and not related to the kumquat, a member of the citrus family with [00:08:20] which it should not be confused. [00:08:22] And whereas the loquat tree makes a valuable contribution to a local [00:08:25] sustainable food system, needing no fertilizer and little water to thrive [00:08:30] and being tolerant of the extremes of Florida's winter cold and summer heat. [00:08:34] And whereas a single loquat tree can produce 100 pounds or more of fruit in [00:08:38] a given season, and whereas ecology, Florida will host its annual Florida [00:08:42] loquat festival in New Port Richey. [00:08:46] An educational event featuring freshly harvested, locally grown loquats, [00:08:50] cottage industry preserves, jams and jellies, pastries, and loquat saplings. [00:08:55] 2024 marks the 10th and 10 year anniversary of the Florida loquat [00:08:58] festival, and whereas due to the overwhelming popularity of previous [00:09:02] loquat festivals, with this festival being the only loquat festival in the [00:09:06] United States and due to the commitment of ecology, Florida, and the city of [00:09:10] New Port Richey, the 2024 Florida loquat festival will occur on April 6th at [00:09:15] Sims Park with related events occurring during the preceding week. [00:09:19] Now, therefore, I, Chopper Davis, mayor of the city of New Port Richey, do [00:09:22] hereby proclaim April 6th, 2024 as Florida loquat day in New Port Richey, [00:09:27] and urge the residents of our community to participate in the annual Florida [00:09:30] loquat festival and discover the great value of one of our tiniest fruits. [00:09:36] I just want to say a couple things. I have like a two-story loquat tree in my [00:09:53] backyard and I want to emphasize that it doesn't need many fertilizer and a [00:09:58] little water to thrive because I wouldn't be an asset to this loquat tree at all. [00:10:06] And then can we go into your picture afterwards? Yeah. Okay. All right. Hi, [00:10:11] everyone. Thank you so much, council and city for this proclamation for the 10th [00:10:16] anniversary of the loquat festival here in New Port Richey. I'm sure you're [00:10:21] wondering why I'm up here because you probably didn't know I'm involved with [00:10:25] loquats. I was honored in 2019 when Del Deschamps came to me and said, you know, [00:10:32] you make tea and you make beer. Can you make a loquat tea and a loquat beer? [00:10:36] And we rose to the challenge and did just that. In fact, in 2019, our loquat tea was [00:10:41] awarded the silver medal in the global tea championship for the entire world. [00:10:46] So we're very excited about being involved in that aspect of the event. [00:10:55] Then last year he came and said, can't you take our leaves and turn them into tea too? [00:10:59] So we've worked with different tea growers around the country, including people at LSU [00:11:06] and the University of Florida to determine how to take these leaves and grow and harvest them as [00:11:11] well. And the reception that we got, we actually sold out with our tea within 30 minutes of the [00:11:16] event last year. And so we're really excited to continue to bring this unique agricultural event, [00:11:22] not just with the fruit, but the leaves and all the things that it encompasses in the community [00:11:26] to New Port Richey. I'm most proud this year that Dell has entrusted me to move the event [00:11:33] to Sims Park out of Francis Avenue. That has been our home for the last nine events. [00:11:39] We are really excited to be partnering with the city and with the West Pasco Historical Society [00:11:44] to host it in their property in the front, excuse me, and use the gazebo for our educational [00:11:49] programming. So we're very excited about that and we hope that that will help attract more people to [00:11:54] come to this event and see some of these really unique urban farming opportunities that are [00:11:59] around. This is only one of four events that Ecology Florida puts on with FarmNet and that [00:12:05] would also include our Sweet Potato Roundup, the Collard Green Festival, and the Okra Occasion. [00:12:10] So there's a lot of farming going on urban here in our city and we just want to help continue that. [00:12:17] We know that when we grow local, more people eat and they eat free and that's a wonderful thing [00:12:21] for us to have people eating in our community. So with that, I want to thank Dell and the rest of [00:12:26] the group back there. We're going to take a picture. Dell is the driving force behind this, but like I [00:12:31] said today, he asked me to speak. So I appreciate your time and I hope everybody comes out and [00:12:35] enjoys this really unique, fun event. If you haven't had a little quiet yet, you don't know what you're missing. [00:12:52] Thank you so much. [00:12:54] Thank you. Poor itchy teal for the t-shirts there. Good job. [00:13:01] There's sunset colors too, almost. [00:13:14] Say loquat. [00:13:17] Loquat. [00:13:17] Loquat. [00:13:28] I like the new design. [00:13:30] Yeah.

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7. 7Vox Pop for Items Not Listed on the Agenda or Listed on Consent Agenda▶ 13:45
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   Purchases/Payments for City Council Approval

   approvedon consent

   Council approved the consent agenda item for purchases/payments by unanimous vote.

   • motion:Motion to approve the consent agenda (Purchases/Payments for City Council Approval). (passed)5–0

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   [00:21:07] and we'll go to the consent agenda. Move for approval. Second. Second. Any comments? [00:21:19] All those in favor, signify by aye. Aye. Those opposed? That's five zip. Moving on to public

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   First Reading, Ordinance No. 2024-2288: Land Use Amendment for 6727 Trouble Creek Rd.

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   First reading of Ordinance 2024-2288, a small-scale future land use map amendment to change approximately 3.76 acres at 6727 Trouble Creek Road from general commercial to light industrial. The item is part of a three-part request (also including rezoning and conditional use) by owner Robert Burns to allow outdoor storage of RVs, commercial vehicles, and heavy equipment. Both the DRC and Land Development Review Board recommended denial, citing inconsistency with the comprehensive plan and concerns about spot zoning.

   Ord. Ordinance No. 2024-2288

   📍202nd Avenue South, number 451, St. Petersburg📍6727 Trouble Creek Road👤Debbie Manns👤Diana Burns👤Mrs. Algier👤Robert Burns👤Todd Pressman#Briarpatch#C2 zoning#Development Review Committee (DRC)#Land Development Review Board#Land Use Amendment#Light Industrial (LI)#MF30 zoning#Ordinance No. 2024-2288#Summer Lakes#spot zoning

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   [00:21:26] reading of ordinances. First reading of ordinance 2024-2288, land use amendment to 6727 Trouble [00:21:36] Creek Road. This is ordinance number 2024-2288, an ordinance of the City of New Port Richey, [00:21:42] Florida, providing for a small scale amendment of the future land use map of the City's adopted [00:21:47] comprehensive plan, providing for a change in the land use designation for approximately [00:21:51] 3.76 acres of property generally located on Trouble Creek Road and Voorhees Road, as [00:21:57] shown on the map attached here to as Exhibit A and legally described herein, providing [00:22:01] for the amendment of the land use designation for said property from general commercial [00:22:05] to light industrial, providing for complex severability and an effective date. Mr. Mayor, [00:22:12] members of the City Council, this agenda item is actually part of a three-part request which [00:22:22] additionally involves a rezoning and an application for a conditional use related to the property [00:22:31] as indicated by the City Attorney, which is located northeast on the northeast corner [00:22:37] of Trouble Creek Road and Voorhees Road. The purpose in large part of the request is [00:22:44] to allow for the storage of vehicles, recreational vehicles, and equipment on the 3.76 acre parcel [00:22:55] of property. I have Mrs. Algier here in attendance this evening who serves as our Senior Planner [00:23:04] in the Planning and Development Department who has prepared a PowerPoint presentation [00:23:11] for you of the land use amendment, which is the first part of this three-part Council [00:23:26] deliberation and I'll just advise you in advance that the DRC has reviewed this matter, the [00:23:37] Planning and Development Review Board has also reviewed the matter, and both bodies [00:23:43] have recommended against this and you need to view all three requests similarly. So if [00:23:55] you vote in favor, then it's on all three items. If you vote against, then you need [00:24:00] to vote against all three items as well. Please, Mrs. Algier, present the agenda item. [00:24:07] Yes, thank you. I'd like to present all three cases of the staff report at the same time [00:24:13] if that's acceptable. Yeah, that's what I was just going to ask the Attorney if we can [00:24:17] go ahead with that. Yeah, you can combine them. You'll just have to conduct a separate [00:24:20] opportunity for the public to speak on each one. Okay. So the owner is Robert and Diana [00:24:27] Burns. The property is 3.76 acres located on Trouble Creek Road. The zoning is C2 and [00:24:37] MF30, so there's split zoning on the property and the future land use is general commercial. [00:24:44] The current use is office and as Ms. Mann said, the three requests, the first is to [00:24:53] amend the future land use map from general commercial to light industrial. The second [00:24:58] request is to rezone the property from C2 and MF30 to light industrial. And the third [00:25:05] request is a conditional use to allow outdoor storage and RV parking. So the property is [00:25:15] located at the northeast corner of Trouble Creek and Voorhees. So the surrounding land [00:25:25] use, there's a mix of the city, properties located in the city, and properties located [00:25:33] in the county. And to the north, it's residential 6, which is a county designation. To the east [00:25:40] is general commercial and the south is high-density residential and then the west is also general [00:25:46] commercial. And as you can see from this map, there's a mix of land uses, mostly general [00:25:54] commercial and residential. And that's showing property in the county in red, that's residential [00:26:04] land use. And in the comprehensive plan, one of the goals is to protect the residential [00:26:14] properties from encroachment of other incompatible activities, such as industrial. And also industrial [00:26:24] land uses should be encouraged where they will be compatible with other surrounding [00:26:29] land uses. And supporting and complementary industries and commercials should be located [00:26:35] in proximity to each other. So the DRC did find that light industrial land use is incompatible [00:26:44] with the surrounding commercial and the residential land uses and that it is inconsistent with [00:26:50] the city's comprehensive plan. And so the DRC did recommend denial of this and the [00:26:58] Land Development Review Board also found that the request is inconsistent with the city's [00:27:04] comprehensive plan and likewise recommended denial. Moving on to the rezoning. So the [00:27:13] actual zoning is surrounded by commercial. And as you can see from this map, it's mostly [00:27:23] commercial zoning surrounding the property. And in the county parts surrounding the property, [00:27:31] you'll see commercial and residential. And so existing land uses, you've got some residential [00:27:42] to the north. You've got churches to the east and the south. And then to the west, [00:27:49] there is an outdoor storage facility that is considered nonconforming. So if it were [00:27:56] to go away, it could not come back. And further out, you've got Briarpatch to the west and [00:28:05] to the east, you've got, I believe it's called Summer Lakes, all residential communities. [00:28:12] The applicant did provide a site plan showing how they would orient the development. So [00:28:23] there's an office at the front of the property, an existing building. And to the north, which [00:28:30] would be the rear of the property, they've identified where they would place parking. [00:28:36] And then at the very rear, the very northern part of the property is a proposed metal warehouse [00:28:46] building. They have proposed additional landscaping across the front of the property, which would [00:28:54] face Trouble Creek. Our landscaping code would also require landscaping around the [00:29:00] perimeter and also in the parking lot. I've listed the permitted uses in Lott Industrial [00:29:09] District, the reason being that if this property were rezoned Lott Industrial and this owner [00:29:17] decides to sell in the future, any of these uses could go in that location except for [00:29:25] the adult use establishments and possibly the medical marijuana, only because there [00:29:30] are separation distance requirements. The proposed use would be office, warehouse maintenance [00:29:40] shop, outdoor storage, and RV parking. So again, looking at the comprehensive plan, [00:29:48] the goals are to protect residential areas from encroachment of incompatible activities [00:29:54] and the same with locating industrial uses in appropriate places. [00:30:00] The DRC and the Land Development Review Board found that this request is inconsistent with [00:30:08] the comprehensive plan, it does create spot zoning, and both bodies do recommend denial [00:30:15] of the request to rezone the property from C2 and MF30 to live industrial. [00:30:23] And moving on to the third request, a conditional use. [00:30:29] As I had shown before, the applicant did provide a site plan showing where all the [00:30:34] activities would take place. [00:30:39] There's criteria to consider when approving a conditional use, and the first is that it's [00:30:49] specifically permitted in the zoning district, and that is why the land use amendment and [00:30:54] the rezoning is requested, because as it's currently zoned, it is not a permitted use. [00:31:02] And the second is that it would not adversely affect the public health, safety, or welfare [00:31:09] of the public, and the use of outdoor storage could negatively impact the surrounding residential [00:31:18] neighborhoods as it would be unsightly and create additional traffic. [00:31:25] Third is that it is consistent with the intent of the zoning district, again, it would require [00:31:31] the rezoning to lot industrial, if it were rezoned, it would be consistent. [00:31:38] And that the requirements of the district in which it's located is complied with, again, [00:31:44] it would require that rezoning to lot industrial. [00:31:50] Excessive traffic in the area. [00:31:54] There would be excessive traffic of additional RVs and heavy equipment, which would be mixed [00:32:01] in with primarily residential traffic. [00:32:07] That it would not adversely affect the residential character. [00:32:11] The character of the area is a mix of commercial, churches, with schools, and residential uses, [00:32:19] and the industrial use would not be aesthetically pleasing and it would negatively impact the [00:32:25] area. [00:32:27] And a vehicular parking or traffic problem is not created. [00:32:31] Again, we believe the large vehicles and heavy equipment could impact the surrounding neighborhood. [00:32:41] Again, the DRC is recommending denial, as the Land Development Review Board is also [00:32:47] recommending denial. [00:32:51] That completes my report. [00:32:53] Do we have any public comment? [00:32:59] Good evening, Mr. Mayor and Councilmembers. [00:33:06] On the applicant? [00:33:15] Thank you, sir. [00:33:16] Todd Pressman, 202nd Avenue South, number 451 in St. Petersburg. [00:33:20] Mr. Mayor and Councilmembers, your staff has gone through a long presentation. [00:33:26] I do have a PowerPoint. [00:33:27] As the applicant, I'm going to need more than three minutes, if I may request that, sir. [00:33:31] Yes, you can get that. [00:33:32] Okay, thank you. [00:33:33] If we could bring up the PowerPoint for me, please, then. [00:33:36] Oh, thank you. [00:33:42] I'm here this evening with Robert Byrne. [00:33:44] Robert is the property owner, and the staff has well presented what the issues are before [00:33:50] you. [00:33:51] You're well aware of the location of the site at Trouble Creek and Voorhees Road, familiar [00:33:56] with the site. [00:33:58] I will say to you that, in difference to what the city manager indicated, what's been in [00:34:05] the record and actually indicated a little bit further in is that the use proposed is [00:34:10] for commercial vehicles and RVs and heavy equipment storage, not just RVs. [00:34:15] So that's been a part of the record. [00:34:16] I want to make sure that was very clear. [00:34:20] What is proposed is very low trips, very quiet, no odors, no infrastructure, extremely low [00:34:28] trips, because these are vehicles that are just stored, some for long term. [00:34:32] Now, when you look at the area, I would differ with the staff reports and the findings, because [00:34:37] quite frankly, the biggest and most active use right across the street is in outdoor [00:34:42] and indoor storage, which is maintained on a very large property. [00:34:47] And as we found out recently, and we've been told, it's been sold to a new storage company [00:34:51] who will continue that use. [00:34:53] On the other side of the wetlands is protected for any impacts to any residential areas, [00:35:01] and C2 is located mainly to the north. [00:35:04] So when your staff tells you that this is primarily a residential area, that we're going [00:35:08] to have impacts on residential neighborhoods, it simply is not the case. [00:35:13] She's told you that the future land use map is highway commercial, it's a very intensive [00:35:16] category, one of your most intensive categories in the city, and zone C2 and MF3. [00:35:22] So again, per the county, C2 is on the north, which of course is an intensive use, intensive [00:35:27] category. [00:35:28] And your staff tells you, well, it's general commercial on all the surrounding properties. [00:35:33] That's from their report, which means that could allow vehicle repair garages, gas stations, [00:35:38] massage salons, medical marijuana dispensing, eating establishments, self-serve laundry, [00:35:43] dry cleaning. [00:35:44] What we're proposing is quiet, low trips, no odors, and Mr. Mayor and council members, [00:35:52] there's no one here in the chambers to speak to it. [00:35:55] We've been through hearings and notices, we've had absolutely zero opposition. [00:36:00] There's not a single neighbor or resident that has come forward opposing this request. [00:36:05] This is what's directly across the street on the west. [00:36:07] You can see it's a use that is much worse in terms of buffering and screening than we [00:36:14] would be. [00:36:15] To the north, you can see, again, a very intensive use, which is much more obvious to the public [00:36:21] than ours would be. [00:36:23] To again, to the other side, you have a national wetlands, US Fish and Wildlife, national wetlands, [00:36:28] that's never going to be touched. [00:36:30] So this site is placed deeply into an area that doesn't cause impact to other neighborhoods [00:36:37] or to other areas. [00:36:38] That's why we had absolutely zero opposition or any complaints or comments up to today. [00:36:43] Now across the street on the south, between the right-of-way and the property line, is [00:36:48] 116 feet between our property line and across the street, which then is a parking lot. [00:36:55] So there's tremendous buffering to any use to the south. [00:36:59] The other side is a county vacant land. [00:37:02] So when you look at the whole area, Mr. Mayor and council members, what you do see is the [00:37:06] predominant uses are outdoor storage, light industrial. [00:37:10] To the north is a massive LI use auto storage. [00:37:14] So I would say with great liberty to your staff that they've characterized this area [00:37:19] incorrectly. [00:37:21] And that what we're proposing in the immediate area is much less impacting, much lower trips, [00:37:27] very quiet, very unassuming for a small businessman, Mr. Burns, who is seeking to work with his [00:37:36] business in a different capacity. [00:37:40] When you look at the staff planning review, they tell you that industrial uses are typically [00:37:44] considered incompatible with residential areas. [00:37:47] Well, this isn't a residential area. [00:37:50] It's much different, as I've explained and shown you. [00:37:53] They also note that large trucks and heavy equipment are hauled to and from the site, [00:37:56] which will create a nuisance in a residential area. [00:37:58] Again, this is not a residential area. [00:38:00] This is a storage facility. [00:38:02] These are not vehicles that come and go every day. [00:38:04] They're for longer-term storage. [00:38:06] The closest residential, by Google mapping, is 648 feet through the woods to grandmother's [00:38:14] house across the other large property. [00:38:16] And again, we've had no one from that neighborhood come forward with any concerns or any opposition. [00:38:22] So that is the closest residential. [00:38:24] So when we look at the staff report, with all due respect, and Ms. Allgaier's done a [00:38:28] great job, when you look at compatibility, I've showed you that the major use in the [00:38:35] area is already established as the LI, for the same use we have, but we're doing it a [00:38:40] much better, compatible way. [00:38:43] There wouldn't be more additional traffic. [00:38:46] The use itself is the only use that is a little bit higher than a cell tower, in terms of [00:38:52] the ITE trip rates, as I've researched it and seen it. [00:38:57] So with all those factors, and I understand that it is compelling that your prior boards [00:39:03] looked at this in a negative way, but we're here today before the mayor and council members [00:39:08] for a small businessman who's seeking to do one additional use, which, quite frankly, [00:39:14] no one in the vicinity has any concerns about. [00:39:16] So with that, we appreciate your attention and we appreciate your consideration. [00:39:19] Happy to answer any questions you might have. [00:39:22] Do we have a, we're going to look at all three of them? [00:39:29] Well, first of all, do you have any questions for the applicant? [00:39:32] Do you have any questions? [00:39:34] So is the one site plan you submitted, is that all we have? [00:39:39] We had a lot of maps up here, but we had one little drawing of the site plan. [00:39:42] Can we pull that back up? [00:39:44] Do we have a copy of that? [00:39:46] I think I've got it here. [00:39:47] So let me pull it back up and we'll look at it. [00:39:52] So how many vehicles did, there's a metal storage shed, and how many vehicles slots? [00:40:01] The site plan, the black and white. [00:40:03] Yeah. [00:40:04] Let's see, what's, 18? [00:40:08] It should be 18 on the plan, sir. [00:40:11] I didn't count it, I was just looking at it, because there's, that's the only thing. [00:40:14] So what is that on the, what would be on the east side of the property, I believe? [00:40:26] What is that? [00:40:27] That's the west side. [00:40:28] The length is east. [00:40:29] What portion are you asking, sir? [00:40:34] On the east side. [00:40:37] The gray area is where you plan to store vehicles, right? [00:40:39] Correct, sir. [00:40:40] And then just immediately to the right of it, is that? [00:40:42] On the east side is Swale, which would be a natural rise of the property. [00:40:47] That's up there now, right? [00:40:48] It's existing. [00:40:49] It's existing, that is now under the course of control. [00:40:52] So no change to the building up front, is that correct? [00:40:55] No, sir. [00:40:56] No change. [00:40:57] Okay. [00:40:58] Robert Burns. [00:40:59] Okay. [00:41:00] 6727. [00:41:01] No, it would not. [00:41:02] Question? [00:41:03] What is the question, sir? [00:41:07] Yeah, there's no change plans for the building up front, right? [00:41:12] No. [00:41:13] The existing building is going to stay as is, and the 50 by 60 building will be to store [00:41:20] equipment. [00:41:21] Is there any fencing around the property now? [00:41:24] Yes, sir. [00:41:25] It's fenced all around with privacy screening around it. [00:41:29] So it's a chain link with privacy screening? [00:41:32] Yes. [00:41:33] And you're planning on landscaping in the front, which would be the south side, is that [00:41:37] right? [00:41:38] We're planning on doing three-tier landscaping around the Voorhees roadside, the west side, [00:41:45] and there's existing landscaping all through the front. [00:41:49] There's mature oak trees on the property, and nothing would be removed. [00:41:55] And so if we approve this, there really wouldn't be any ... We really couldn't regulate the [00:42:02] storage. [00:42:03] It could be RVs, it could be heavy equipment, it could be vehicles, it could be boats. [00:42:08] There's no really ... It could be any of those, is that right? [00:42:13] Yes, sir. [00:42:14] It could. [00:42:15] So the landscape on the front along Trouble Creek, is it just the large oak trees, or [00:42:27] do you have something that kind of covers it? [00:42:30] We did have a plan to show what we wanted to do in the front. [00:42:43] We're proposing trees every 10 feet on center, installed just above the fence line. [00:42:49] So you would have a ... We call it three-tier. [00:42:52] So you have ground cover, and then you have a shrub line of three feet. [00:42:57] And then the idea of the trees every 10 feet is to be just above that fence line. [00:43:02] So you have ground cover, three-foot cover, fence line, and then the trees above. [00:43:07] So it's a pretty substantial buffer, typically jurisdictions like that. [00:43:13] What size is the building? [00:43:14] How long is it? [00:43:15] The existing building? [00:43:16] It's shown as 28 by 46. [00:43:17] 28 by 46. [00:43:18] Yes, sir. [00:43:19] That's 46 long, so those slots, they're named 15 ... Those are like parking areas you've [00:43:26] designated, right? [00:43:27] Those are outside of the gate parking for going to the office parking. [00:43:33] So that's in our own parking lot. [00:43:36] That's a private road that cuts through. [00:43:39] If I may, let me see that other plan, then I'll show you. [00:43:52] So you'll see, for your question, there's four or five spaces that are in front, and [00:43:58] then the proposed storage is the gray. [00:44:02] So those service parking spaces for the office and the other use that he's been having there. [00:44:09] The spaces you have there, the ones that are next to the building look like they're pretty [00:44:14] long. [00:44:15] They're like maybe 35 feet or so. [00:44:18] What is the size of the spaces there in the gray? [00:44:23] About the same size. [00:44:24] It's 30, about 35 foot. [00:44:25] Roughly about the same. [00:44:26] The engineer drew it up for us, drew it with the intent of those type of vehicles. [00:44:35] But Mr. Burns specifically does not intend to have vehicles parking in the front. [00:44:42] That's in regard to his pressure washing business that he does now and the office. [00:44:49] Can I say something? [00:44:52] Oh. [00:44:53] Mr. Mayor? [00:44:54] Yeah, any time. [00:44:55] Thank you. [00:44:56] There's a conversation going on here. [00:44:58] OK. [00:45:00] Well, I've been a resident of New Port Richey for about 25 years now, and I've owned a business for 20 years. [00:45:07] And I've operated my pressure washing business out of the storage yard across the street from me. [00:45:14] So for the last 20 years, I've been a customer of the storage yard across the street. [00:45:19] So when the opportunity arose to purchase the land across the street, the 6727, [00:45:27] I did so thinking that the whole area is storage, and the salvage yard that touches the storage yard that I rent from, [00:45:38] I wouldn't have an issue with parking a few vehicles on my own property. [00:45:44] So when I purchased that property, it was pretty run down, and I cleaned it all up, and I did a lot of work to it. [00:45:51] I spent money on all the reports that was needed to file the applications, and I wanted to go about doing this the correct way. [00:46:01] So I just wanted to make that known that I did everything possible to go about doing this the right way, [00:46:11] and to be, I guess, just go about it the right way. [00:46:18] I was really hoping that it would work out so I could be able to park a few RVs there to be able to pay for the property. [00:46:28] That was my goal. [00:46:31] The storage lot across the street, you're saying that if it was sold, then it would no longer be able to be used? [00:46:40] That is a non-conforming zoning use, and their current plan is to ask the council if they can build on the street frontage a building [00:46:55] so that they can accommodate a storage of interior storage, and that would block the site of the outdoor storage. [00:47:12] So they want to have a, like, self-storage facility on the frontage, and then the outdoor storage behind it. [00:47:19] And that would be allowed? [00:47:22] If you approve it, it would be, but it would significantly at least improve the appearance of the property. [00:47:31] So is there viewing of, I mean, I drove by there today and I didn't think about this, but is there viewing of the stored RVs and boats and stuff? [00:47:41] Voorhees, can you see that? [00:47:43] I know there's some buildings there, but can you see that, those storage places, the RVs and the boats and stuff from Voorhees, even if they built the building? [00:47:57] Yeah, you would be able to see it from Voorhees. [00:48:01] So that's allowed. [00:48:04] This is a classic example, I should point out, of spot zoning, and that's what we have to be mindful of as part of the deliberation of this case, [00:48:17] because you don't, you may be uncomfortable, as I am, that you don't want to approve something that would undermine the efficacy of your zoning map and future zoning decisions. [00:48:35] Mr. Mayor, if I may, with all due respect, your question, were you asking about the site across the street? [00:48:40] Across the street, yeah. [00:48:42] I showed you pictures, they have quite a number of vehicles. [00:48:45] She's saying there's going to be a building built on the Trouble Creek site, I want to know if we can see that stuff from the Voorhees. [00:48:52] I mean, are you blocking the whole thing, or are you just blocking the Trouble Creek site? [00:48:57] Are you asking if it would block Mr. Burns' site? [00:49:00] No. [00:49:01] You're asking if it would... [00:49:02] No, the existing, the one that's already there. [00:49:05] She said they're going to build a building, correct, on the Voorhees? [00:49:08] They want to build a building. [00:49:09] They want to build it, right. [00:49:12] But we're going to have to change the... [00:49:15] We'll have to give them a conditional use to do so. [00:49:20] Well, the reason there's a market demand is because that's the primary use in the area, if I may say so with all due respect. [00:49:27] And with all due respect to the City Manager's comments, personally, I wouldn't call it spot zoning, because as I've shown you, [00:49:35] as I just indicated, the predominant use in the area is well-established, much more intensive LI uses, much more intensive than Mr. Burns proposes. [00:49:48] I thought it was commercial, but I didn't notice the LI. [00:49:51] What properties? [00:49:53] Yeah, but what areas around that are LI, light industry? [00:50:01] If you could pull up my PowerPoint, I'll be happy to answer your question. [00:50:06] Yeah, well, that's like... [00:50:19] So, as you can see on Voorhees Road, the primary use is light industrial, which includes auto salvage to the north, the LI use directly across the street, and then, of course, you have commercial zoning. [00:50:32] And that light industrial is actually county property, true? [00:50:37] You would know that better than I, sir, but in terms of... [00:50:40] It is. [00:50:41] But in terms of... [00:50:42] Yeah. [00:50:43] But in terms of the vicinity and the uses in the vicinity, that's what is existing, and the existing use on the property. [00:50:50] See, now, you see down there where it says Site DS, that's where I'm asking if they built a building on the...not on your property, but the one next door. [00:50:59] I mean, how big is the building going to be? [00:51:02] How much of it is going to block Trouble Creek, but not Black Voorhees, looking in and seeing? [00:51:08] Clearly, if a structure was placed on the property next door, and quite frankly, we've heard rumors to it as well, whether it be interior or they want to continue exterior, because there is a lot of demand for exterior storage of vehicles, because they are difficult to find. [00:51:27] But clearly, they would certainly be permissible to place a building up towards Trouble Creek or on Voorhees, whatever those setbacks may be. [00:51:39] I assume they would desire to have the greatest visibility, which would be placing it up on Trouble Creek Road. [00:51:44] So I would, at least my opinion, of course, I don't get a vote here, my opinion is that a structure built next door, if it is ever built and if it is ever sold, would provide even more significant buffering. [00:51:56] Because again, on the other side, you have the wetlands, so the site really would be placed into a cubbyhole. [00:52:02] Any questions? [00:52:03] No. [00:52:04] You want to open it up to the general public and see if there's any questions? [00:52:08] Thank you, Mr. Mayor. [00:52:09] Thank you, Council Members. [00:52:13] Seeing none, come on down. [00:52:19] Leave it up while the people are talking. [00:52:23] Laurie Baker, 5853 Lafayette. [00:52:28] I guess I would like to know what the difference is between a junkyard and a vehicle storage facility that includes heavy equipment. [00:52:38] With all due respect, I deal with junkyards and I deal with other stores, they're light years different. [00:52:44] Junkyard's collecting all kinds of materials, smashing them, breaking them up, compressing them, it's loud, it's dirty. [00:52:53] This would be vehicles come, they park, they stay. [00:52:58] No generation of activity. [00:53:01] There may be one or two years, it may come maybe once or twice a week, that much more. [00:53:05] Again, light years difference. [00:53:08] I have a question. Could you explain, you gave a list of things that could happen if it was L1. [00:53:32] Is there a conditional, for lack of a better term, [00:53:37] conditions that we can impose as long as he owns it and it stays in this particular order? [00:53:43] Because you're looking it down. [00:53:45] Conditional zoning, I'm not aware that we've ever done conditional zoning. [00:53:51] No limit, no limit, no limit. [00:53:53] Yeah, go ahead. [00:53:55] Well, I'd like to save my comments for when the public hearing is closed. [00:53:58] So if you could determine whether there's still public comment. [00:54:01] Is there any public comment? [00:54:03] All right, we'll bring it back. [00:54:05] So if the public hearing is closed, I'd like to make a few comments on the applications before you. [00:54:10] First of all, you do have three applications. [00:54:12] They're all interrelated, as the city manager suggested. [00:54:16] If you deny the land use, you cannot approve the zoning request or the conditional use. [00:54:23] If you approve the land use, then you can consider the rezoning. [00:54:28] But, again, if you deny that rezoning, then you can't consider the conditional use. [00:54:32] So they do, there is a dovetail between them. [00:54:35] The two applications other than the first one, which is the land use decision, are quasi-judicial proceedings, [00:54:43] which means that you base your decision on the evidence that's presented [00:54:46] and you give the opportunity for the public and the applicant to provide you evidence to support or deny those applications. [00:54:54] The first one, which is the one that we're talking about directly now, is the land use decision. [00:54:59] That is a legislative decision. [00:55:01] That is the one over which you have the most discretion, [00:55:04] and your decision is guided only by whether you make an arbitrary and capricious decision. [00:55:11] That's the only thing you can't do. [00:55:13] Other than that, you have unlimited discretion. [00:55:16] We've combined the hearings just for sake of ease because they're all related, [00:55:19] but this particular vote that you will take is a legislative vote. [00:55:23] And as the city manager pointed out, this looks like classic spot zoning when you look at your land use map. [00:55:32] And if you look at the land use map, you will see that there is no light industrial anywhere on that map. [00:55:37] And so you're normally looking for situations, unless you're talking about a very large parcel, [00:55:42] where there are adjacent light industrial uses and there are none in this map, [00:55:47] other than the potential that there is some light industrial that's located in the county [00:55:52] Keep in mind, you don't have any zoning control over that property. [00:55:56] So if the county was to make that residential, then you would have those incompatibilities. [00:56:03] You can't make your decision on what might happen in the future, but this is a planning map. [00:56:09] It is the future land use map. [00:56:11] So you're trying to make that determination. [00:56:13] So I would just guide you to take a look at that. [00:56:15] There is residential immediately to the south, high-density residential, if you look at the land use map. [00:56:21] And you have a lot of areas around this property that are in the county over which you have no control. [00:56:26] But I can answer any questions you have. [00:56:28] And I don't know if you had a question that I didn't answer. [00:56:30] No, you did answer. [00:56:31] Okay. [00:56:33] So the initial decision is the legislative decision as to whether or not you're going to allow light industrial on this particular parcel. [00:56:43] And whether that's compatible. [00:56:45] That's compatible. [00:56:46] And that is your first decision. [00:56:48] So regardless of how many vehicles or how low intensity is or how clean the site is, [00:56:53] none of those issues will even be up for you to determine until you make that initial determination. [00:57:02] Well, I had a question, but based on that, I probably don't need to ask it. [00:57:05] I was just going to ask because typically in a storage facility like that, [00:57:09] a lot of commercial vehicles are stored there that do go in and out every day. [00:57:14] I mean, there's a storage facility down the street from me, and they have a landscaper that's in and out of there, [00:57:20] another pressure washer that's got a huge truck that's in and out of there every day. [00:57:23] They park it there every night because they have nowhere else to park. [00:57:26] So would that be the case, too, that there could be somebody parked there that does come in and out every day? [00:57:33] Are we taking questions under this point? [00:57:36] It would be inappropriate unless you reopen the public hearing. [00:57:40] It doesn't matter now anyway. [00:57:44] You want to say something? [00:57:45] Yeah, well, I'm just looking at this. [00:57:47] So, I mean, let's just say we did approve their request, [00:57:50] then now we have the storage facility across the street who are saying it's not conforming. [00:57:57] Then they're going to be like, well, you approved over here. [00:57:59] Why can't we have it? [00:58:01] I mean, am I wrong about that? [00:58:03] Yeah, that would potentially open up an opportunity for them to do something. [00:58:06] I will say that, generally speaking, the nonconforming use of that property should not be guiding the decision on this land use decision [00:58:16] because that's irrelevant to a land use decision because it is zoned or its land use is a commercial land use. [00:58:24] So it is strictly a nonconforming use. [00:58:27] But, yes, if you were to create this light industrial here, [00:58:31] then you would open up the opportunity for others to come. [00:58:34] And it would still be a legislative decision, [00:58:36] but they could still come and ask you to allow light industrial adjacent to or near that zone as well. [00:58:45] Anything else? [00:58:46] I just would like to reply to some of the legal response there from our attorney. [00:58:52] You were careful to segregate these into three pieces, saying that the first piece was land use. [00:58:58] But in your description of that, you included twice conversation about spot zoning. [00:59:03] So it confuses me a little bit. [00:59:07] This would be a small-scale, I don't know, it wouldn't be a small-scale development agreement, [00:59:13] but if we do a land use change, we're able to do that because of the size of it being small enough? [00:59:21] Is the compactness and smallness of this site relevant in any way to this decision? [00:59:26] Yes, it's considered a small-scale amendment if it's under 10 acres, and this qualifies as a small-scale amendment. [00:59:31] It doesn't change the legal requirements. [00:59:33] I hear you. [00:59:34] But it does make it a small-scale amendment. [00:59:36] Thank you. [00:59:37] So that being said, I think I'm most interested in two things, [00:59:42] one which oftentimes the staff uses engineering analysis to talk about traffic count, [00:59:53] and there was evidence presented that it's a small-scale amendment. [01:00:00] Indicated it would be pretty low on that. There was a highlighting of the big equipment, and I think that's the point that you've made, Councilman. [01:00:11] And then when you look at it, the church across the street, the use, what makes it difficult for me is to know that this is kind of in between all of this county [01:00:23] and all of these county uses are so aggressive. The Briar Patch is a very bucolic, small little community that's peaceful and quiet. [01:00:33] But when you look at the drawing, and maybe it's done in an 8 by 11 fashion so we don't see to the side that much of the residential that's over there, [01:00:47] but certainly in looking at that and knowing that the applicant or the person that owns the property below is asking to even go more aggressively with a storage facility, [01:01:00] while we say it's non-complying, I'm imagining they would have to come before us for approval. [01:01:08] So if we're going to approve a continuation and expansion of a heavy commercial type use right next to the property the gentleman has moved from, [01:01:17] as he's intending to do something that he's appealing, it's less useful, you have a good point that it could be active. [01:01:26] But if you drive Trouble Creek from Little Road past Rowan and on to, there are a number of these kinds of properties including some in the city that aren't that far away. [01:01:42] So I'm really torn. I don't see the residential activity. I know that it may be what we plan, but if we continue to approve expansion of the uses that are next to it that are non-conforming, [01:01:59] I don't understand how that works. If it's non-conforming, why would we want to encourage increased development and investment on a non-conforming piece [01:02:09] while we're saying it's non-conforming, it may not be that way, somebody's going to build something that might last for another 30 or 40 years. [01:02:16] So I'm tempted to consider approval, but I'll leave this one in your all's capable hands and follow suit. [01:02:29] Anything else? [01:02:32] Yeah, I'm familiar with the site. I've been by there a bunch of times and I really dislike the storage area adjacent to your property and always thought it was a little out of place. [01:02:45] I do give a lot of credence to our Land Development Review Board and some pretty smart, wise folks on that committee. [01:03:10] So I always do give them a lot of credence in their decision. I see it was 5-0 vote on this call. [01:03:17] I was trying to understand what was going on because I really have a lot of empathy for the applicant here. [01:03:27] Excuse me, there's a problem with people watching on the screen. They're only seeing this, not you. I've just been notified, do you have a problem with that? [01:03:49] They probably don't want to see me anyway, can they hear me? [01:03:51] So the point being is that, and I really have a lot of empathy for that, there was a gentleman earlier today that spoke to us that did a similar type thing, bought a property and business and thought he could do this with it and only to find out that wasn't the case. [01:04:13] It's easy to say, well you should have or you should have had it checked out or you should have had it rezoned or conditional of the purchase and so forth. [01:04:23] So that's always what they say, hindsight is 20-20. [01:04:28] But that is a difficult situation as people sometimes will jump the gun, so to speak, before getting all their ducks lined up. [01:04:39] So I'm empathetic, but I really don't care for that use in that area. [01:04:46] Right above where it says site, if I'm not mistaken that's a residential home, is that correct? [01:04:58] Can we put that back up? [01:05:02] Where it says site on the right hand corner, right above it is a residential property. [01:05:09] They're running a business, it's a commercial property that the gentleman's running a business out of and storing vehicles on his property. [01:05:16] Is that an electrical business? [01:05:18] It's on C2. [01:05:19] Yes. [01:05:20] Oh okay, so he's in it, okay. [01:05:23] But he's also storing stuff. [01:05:28] Does that present that picture? [01:05:33] I'm concentrated mainly on this piece of property and spot zoning is my initial problem. [01:05:45] And then the non-conforming, all we're doing is setting ourselves up, you know, because we're going to address this non-conforming situation anyhow. [01:05:53] So we're going to do some things there down the road, so I don't want to go down a road that we've already established here. [01:05:59] So anyhow, that's my opinion. [01:06:02] We're going to move for a vote. [01:06:05] Somebody has to. [01:06:07] I'm asking. [01:06:11] I already expressed my opinion, I don't like it, so I'll move we decline the application. [01:06:20] Do we have another person? [01:06:26] Do we have anybody in favor of it? [01:06:29] This is just the reading of the ordinance 2024-2288. [01:06:36] So the motion for it to deny died for a lack of second? [01:06:40] Or you could pass the gavel. [01:06:42] I'm not passing the gavel. [01:06:45] You have to entertain another motion. [01:06:46] You need to make a decision. [01:06:48] I'll make a motion to approve the land use change, considering the presentation that's made today. [01:06:59] Do we have a second on that? [01:07:04] So I guess it's being tabled. [01:07:07] You have to entertain some motion if you want to postpone it. [01:07:09] If you can't decide tonight, that's the next thing you'd have to do. [01:07:12] Otherwise, you'd need to keep deliberating until you reach a decision. [01:07:17] I need a proposal. [01:07:18] Do we table this?

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10. 9.b

    First Reading, Ordinance No. 2024-2289: Rezoning for 6727 Trouble Creek Rd.

    tabled

    Council postponed the first reading of Ordinance No. 2024-2289, a rezoning request for 6727 Trouble Creek Rd., to the next meeting due to lack of a clear majority to act. Item 9C was also postponed along with it.

    Ord. Ordinance No. 2024-2289

    • motion:Motion to postpone the first reading of Ordinance No. 2024-2289 (rezoning for 6727 Trouble Creek Rd.) to the next meeting. (passed)

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    [01:07:20] Well, it will be the same. [01:07:22] I think if you pass the gavel, if you're inclined, you can make the second. [01:07:26] I didn't ask that, sir. [01:07:28] I'm not passing the gavel. [01:07:31] Well, I would say no. [01:07:32] I'm not inclined to continue to take this over. [01:07:37] Well, you have to make a decision. [01:07:38] It's a land use request that's made by a property owner, [01:07:41] and there has to be a decision by the city council on this first item. [01:07:45] You don't have to make it tonight. [01:07:47] The only other option you have is to postpone it to a future meeting. [01:07:51] Looking for a proposal we post on it. [01:07:57] I'll move that we postpone this to the next meeting. [01:08:00] And I'll second that. [01:08:02] All those in favor? [01:08:04] Aye. [01:08:07] And so that just postpones the 9B and 9C.

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11. 9.c

    First Reading, Ordinance No. 2024-2290: Conditional Use for 6727 Trouble Creek Rd.

    tabled

    First reading of Ordinance 2024-2289 to rezone approximately 3.76 acres at 6727 Trouble Creek Road from Commercial C-2 to Light Industrial LI was postponed to the next meeting due to the related land use decision being postponed.

    Ord. Ordinance No. 2024-2290

    • motion:Motion to continue Ordinance 2024-2289 to a time certain of the next meeting. (passed)

    📍6727 Trouble Creek Road👤Mayor#LDC zoning district map#Land Development Code#Ordinance No. 2024-2289#Ordinance No. 2024-2290

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    [01:08:15] Is that correct? [01:08:16] If you could entertain a separate motion on each of the ordinances, [01:08:19] I'm going to go ahead and read the titles, [01:08:21] and then if you would entertain that same motion, [01:08:24] since you cannot move forward on those items. [01:08:29] So the next one is ordinance number 2024-2289, [01:08:35] an ordinance of the city of New Port Richey, Florida, [01:08:37] providing for amendment of the Land Development Code, [01:08:40] LDC zoning district map, [01:08:42] providing for rezoning of approximately 3.76 acres of property, [01:08:46] generally located at 6727 Trouble Creek Road, [01:08:50] shown on the map attached here too as Exhibit A, [01:08:52] and legally described herein, [01:08:54] providing for amendment of the zoning district designation for said property [01:08:58] from Commercial C-2 to Light Industrial LI, [01:09:01] providing for conflicts, severability, and an effective date. [01:09:04] And, Mr. Mayor, given the postponement of the land use decision, [01:09:08] I would recommend that you do not open the public hearing [01:09:11] and just entertain a motion to postpone this one as well. [01:09:15] I make a motion to continue to a time certain of the next meeting. [01:09:20] Second. [01:09:21] All those in favor? [01:09:22] Aye. [01:09:23] Aye.

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12. 9.d

    First Reading, Ordinance No. 2024-2293: Amending Chapter 7 of the LDC to Create an R-4 Coastal Cottage Zoning District

    approved

    Council held first reading of Ordinance 2024-2293, creating a new R-4 Residential Coastal Cottage zoning district in the Land Development Code to accommodate smaller residential lots, in anticipation of annexing properties along Leisure Lane and Van Doren west of US-19. The ordinance establishes development standards including 38-foot minimum lot width, 25-foot height, coastal cottage architecture, front porches, under-structure parking, and a 70% impervious surface ratio. The motion passed 5-0.

    Ord. Ordinance No. 2024-2293

    • motion:Move for approval of first reading of Ordinance 2024-2293 creating the R-4 Coastal Cottage zoning district. (passed)5–0

    📍Leisure Lane📍U.S. Highway 19📍Van Doren🏢Habitat for Humanity🏢Publix👤Mrs. Algier#CRA (Community Redevelopment Area)#Chapter 7 Land Development Code#City $1.4 million appropriation for street lighting, road improvements, pocket park#County $2 million sanitary sewer commitment#Interlocal agreement with Pasco County#Ordinance No. 2024-2293#Section 7.03.10 R-4 Residential Coastal Cottage Zoning District

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    [01:09:30] And the next item, Mr. Mayor, is ordinance number 2024-2290, [01:09:35] an ordinance of the city of New Port Richey, Florida, [01:09:37] providing for approval of conditional use for outdoor storage [01:09:40] of recreational vehicles in the Light Industrial Zoning District [01:09:43] for the property located at 6727 Trouble Creek Road, [01:09:48] as legally described herein, [01:09:49] providing for any necessary conditions on said use [01:09:52] and providing for an effective date. [01:09:54] And given the postponement of the land use decision [01:09:57] and the zoning decision, [01:09:59] I again would recommend that you do not open the public hearing [01:10:01] and entertain a motion to postpone this item to the next meeting as well. [01:10:05] Entertain a motion to postpone until April 2nd. [01:10:08] I move we postpone until April 2nd. [01:10:10] Second. [01:10:11] All those in favor? [01:10:12] Aye. [01:10:13] Aye. [01:10:18] You're going to have to take it up with the city manager afterwards. [01:10:22] Will we be able to speak again April 2nd? [01:10:24] Yes. [01:10:25] Okay, thank you. [01:10:26] Appreciate it. [01:10:29] One more. [01:10:32] That was it. [01:10:33] That was it. [01:10:34] That was it. [01:10:35] That was three times? [01:10:36] Yep. [01:10:37] That first one counted? [01:10:38] Yeah. [01:10:39] Okay. [01:10:40] Okay. [01:10:42] First reading of ordinance 2024-2293, [01:10:46] amendment to chapter 7 of the LDC [01:10:48] to create an R4 coastal cottage zoning district. [01:10:54] This is ordinance number 2024-2293, [01:10:57] an ordinance of the City of New Port Richey, Florida, [01:10:59] providing for amendment of chapter 7 of the Land Development Code [01:11:02] pertaining to zoning district regulations, [01:11:04] providing for a new section 7.03.10, [01:11:08] the R4 residential coastal cottage zoning district, [01:11:11] providing for permitted uses, prohibited uses, [01:11:13] and development standards, providing for severability, [01:11:16] providing for conflicts, providing for codification, [01:11:18] and providing an effective date. [01:11:21] Mr. Mayor, members of the Council, [01:11:23] the purpose of this agenda item is to provide for standards [01:11:29] for residential lots in the city that do not meet [01:11:33] the minimum lot size to construct single-family homes [01:11:37] and Mrs. Algier has a PowerPoint for you [01:11:43] that outlines the standards that we would like to put in place [01:11:47] to effectuate the coastal cottage zoning district, R4. [01:11:56] Thank you. [01:11:59] So the city is in conversation with the county [01:12:04] to annex property west of U.S. Highway 19, [01:12:09] which is mostly along Leisure Lane and Van Doren. [01:12:21] So the highlighted area that's in a beige tan color, [01:12:27] that is property located in the city. [01:12:30] The area that is not highlighted is the area that would be annexed. [01:12:36] That's Leisure Lane, Van Doren, [01:12:38] and then some commercial property on Highway 19. [01:12:44] The lots that are on Leisure Lane and Van Doren, they're small. [01:12:49] They do not meet the city's minimum standard, [01:12:52] which is our R3 zoning district, [01:12:55] and the properties are currently zoned for mobile homes in the county [01:13:00] and once the property comes into the city, [01:13:03] they have to be rezoned to one of our zoning districts. [01:13:09] So basically, the city does not have a zoning district [01:13:13] that would fit this particular property, [01:13:16] so we'd need to create a zoning district. [01:13:19] And this new ordinance would do that [01:13:21] and it would allow single-family homes to be built on smaller lots. [01:13:25] We would call it the R4 residential coastal cottage. [01:13:30] The development standards would be 20 foot in the front, [01:13:36] 5 foot on the side, 7 if it's abutting a side street, [01:13:40] and 10 foot in the rear. [01:13:42] The height would be 25 feet, [01:13:44] and the lot width is 38 feet for a minimum, [01:13:48] and that's based on the current lot widths [01:13:51] that are commonly found along Leisure Lane. [01:13:55] We would want to add some additional standards [01:13:59] that we don't normally put in our other residential districts. [01:14:05] Here we would want to require that the architectural style [01:14:10] represents a coastal cottage style of house. [01:14:15] We would want to see a front porch on every structure. [01:14:20] Because these properties are located in the flood zone [01:14:23] and they have to be elevated, [01:14:25] we would want to see one parking space under each structure, [01:14:29] and that would minimize the impervious surface that would be used. [01:14:36] And we would want to see some minimum landscaping in the front yard. [01:14:42] And we would also want to increase the impervious surface ratio to 70%, [01:14:48] where it's normally 60%. [01:14:50] Because these are small lots, we would need to allow a little more. [01:14:55] Looking at some typical architecture for... [01:15:00] Coastal cottage, these representations show that there's parking underneath, there's a front porch, and you can see the roof line, the top of windows, [01:15:12] and details along the eaves represent something you would see in a coastal community. [01:15:22] Like the ocean in the background in those pictures? [01:15:24] Yes. [01:15:26] So right now, Habitat owns quite a few lots in this area, and they have built along the southern end closest to Publix. [01:15:37] And so this is what you see when you go out there now, you'll see the structures, they do meet some of our standards with the front porch. [01:15:49] They're not elevated as much to allow for understructure parking. [01:15:56] And what you see is that to get an additional parking space, they have to pave along the side of the structure, which creates more impervious surface area, [01:16:07] whereas if it were underneath the structure, you've already accounted for that area. [01:16:17] And so that completes my report. [01:16:21] Any public comment? [01:16:24] Seeing no one come forward, we'll bring it back to Council for approval. [01:16:29] Move for approval. [01:16:31] Second. [01:16:33] Comment? [01:16:35] No, it looked nice. It'd be a big change from what's there now. [01:16:40] I've got some questions. [01:16:42] So if we, and we're just talking about this, are we, wait, let's just make sure. [01:16:50] Are we approving this zoning for that specific area? [01:16:54] We can't do that because we don't own the property. [01:16:55] It's not in the city yet. [01:16:57] So we're just creating, we're creating, okay, right. [01:16:59] Okay, so yeah, that makes. [01:17:02] Just creating the district at this point. [01:17:05] And that may or may not work there. [01:17:07] It might decide something totally different there, and that's what I want to make sure that we're clear on. [01:17:11] That's correct. [01:17:12] You know, I've been in some of those Habitat for Humanity homes, and they make, you know, [01:17:21] their workforce, what I refer to as workforce housing. [01:17:25] I just feel like Habitat did miss the ball by not elevating them to the proper, [01:17:30] so to allow for the parking that was the biggest. [01:17:33] And then, obviously, they could make some architectural changes for minimal cost. [01:17:37] So that's what I would hope to, at the minimum, to see in that property. [01:17:41] So I like us having this on our books so that we can, if necessary, we can identify areas where we can apply it. [01:17:51] There's some great pictures there. [01:17:53] I know some other neighborhoods I've been in that it works really well, [01:17:56] particularly on the coastal areas where building smaller makes sense, [01:18:03] because in some cases, depending on how close you are to the coast, [01:18:06] you've got to increase your cost of construction for wind loads and so forth to make the codes, [01:18:12] and it allows someone to still build a property in that area and still keep the cost [01:18:18] so that at least they can build something there and somewhat affordable. [01:18:22] So I like it. [01:18:24] Yes, sir. [01:18:28] And I'm happy with the zoning moving forward. [01:18:32] I know a lot of discussion was in order to accommodate that, [01:18:36] and I just want to ask a question related to this potential acquisition annexation. [01:18:45] There were some comments made that surprised me, [01:18:48] that the county is under the assumption that we have committed our dollars to doing something if they put the sewer in. [01:18:59] So could you tell me if there's some kind of capital improvement planning that we have done [01:19:07] that I'm not aware of related to the development? [01:19:12] Because there are existing properties on that and mobile homes, [01:19:16] so I don't know if they've flooded or if there's some expectation that we could see development go there. [01:19:25] And if it was, I know there was a sense that we would add it to the CRA, [01:19:31] and if we were to add it to the CRA, maybe there's some incentives. [01:19:34] Are we sort of strategizing a way to rebuild that community? [01:19:41] I certainly can respond to the question. [01:19:44] And, yes, there have been discussions with the county about the future of that neighborhood [01:19:52] as well as with some of the property owners in the subdivision, [01:19:58] and it is planned to have a redevelopment of the area. [01:20:02] And the county has committed $2 million for the purpose of installation of, [01:20:12] to be dedicated towards the purpose of installation of a sanitary sewer system. [01:20:20] And the city has committed, and we did that at this table, to an appropriation of $1.4 million, [01:20:30] which would be used to support several different expenditures to include street lighting, [01:20:38] road improvements, a little pocket park, those type of amenities for the neighborhood once it's built out. [01:20:53] And it is to be included in the CRA. [01:20:58] That was also agreed to by the county. [01:21:02] So that was all in the agreement that was approved? [01:21:04] It was in the interlocal agreements that were brought before you probably a year or so ago. [01:21:09] I think it's helpful to remind of that because, again, in the sense of our discussion about [01:21:16] whether we would include all the development in, in this case, we've got CRA dollars envisioned to bring that up. [01:21:23] I do remember there was also a study several years earlier where you brought a police study in to say that [01:21:30] if we incorporated that area into the city, we'd need additional law enforcement. [01:21:34] So just not sure how that consultant was, but I remember hearing that and I remember being told. [01:21:43] So as we bring communities up to a better level, [01:21:47] we should be hopeful that we wouldn't have to use the same kind of law enforcement that is lacking there, [01:21:53] which is part of the reason that enticed us to want to go in there and clean that up for the shopping center and the overall community. [01:22:03] Maybe that we need to assign some additional staff hours for ordinance to help us address some of the slum and blight-related conditions. [01:22:16] I'm seeing that as a real possibility. [01:22:21] But we would also at least enjoy the taxes on the base that exists when we bring it in, so it wouldn't be without any contribution. [01:22:28] So thank you for that. [01:22:29] That's all I have. [01:22:31] Thank you. [01:22:32] I would also say that if you've driven by recently there, [01:22:35] they could use a little ordinance to rattle their cages on landscaping because they're not mowing their lawns, [01:22:42] the ones that are not the trailers but the Habitat for Humanity houses. [01:22:49] Any other comments? [01:22:51] No, nothing to add. [01:22:52] Matt? [01:22:54] A little vote then in all those in favor, signify by aye. [01:22:57] Aye. [01:22:58] Opposed? [01:22:59] So we have five zip. [01:23:01] We're moving on to the business items.

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13. 10.a

    2022 N. River Neighborhood Streetscape Improvements Project Close Out

    approved

    Council approved a deductive change order of $57,034.92 and a final pay request not to exceed $92,005.70 to Keystone Excavators Incorporated to close out the 2020-22 North River Neighborhood Streetscape Improvements Project. The project covered North River Road from Main Street to Veterans Drive and included sidewalk replacement, road narrowing, decorative lighting, landscaping, signage, and intersection straightening.

    • motion:Approve the deductive change order of $57,034.92 and final pay request not to exceed $92,005.70 to Keystone Excavators for the North River Streetscape project closeout. (passed)5–0

    📍North River Road from Main Street to Veterans Drive📍River Road and Veterans Drive🏢Keystone Excavators Incorporated👤Manns👤Rivera#2020-22 North River Neighborhood Streetscape Improvement Project#Local Option Gas Tax funding

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    [01:23:03] 2020-22 North River Neighborhood Streetscape Improvement Project closeout. [01:23:11] It must be Robert. [01:23:13] And we're going to let Mr. Rivera present the agenda item. [01:23:17] Thank you, Ms. Manns. [01:23:18] This item is a request to approve a deductive change order in the amount of $57,034.92, [01:23:27] and then a final pay request in the amount not to exceed $92,005.70 submitted by Keystone Excavators Incorporated. [01:23:39] The project limits were North River Road from Main Street to Veterans Drive. [01:23:46] Your project elements included the removal and replacement of the existing sidewalk on the east side of River Road, [01:23:53] the milling and narrowing of the existing roadway, roadway striping, decorative lighting, landscape, hardscape, [01:24:01] the removal and replacement of the existing traffic signage, [01:24:05] and then the straightening of the intersection located at River Road and Veterans Drive. [01:24:11] The funding for the project was also identified as local option gas tax with general fund dollar contributions. [01:24:19] And with that being said, we would recommend the approval of the deductive change order as well as the final pay request. [01:24:27] Any public comment? [01:24:30] Seeing no one come forward, bring it back for approval or vote, rather. [01:24:35] Move approval. [01:24:37] Second. [01:24:40] Yes, sir. [01:24:41] I'm good. [01:24:42] I'm good. [01:24:43] All good. [01:24:45] All those in favor, signify by aye. [01:24:47] Aye. [01:24:48] Those opposed, it's 5-zip.

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    2024 Sims Park Playground Surface Replacement Project Close Out

    approved

    Council approved a deductive change order of $4,000 and a final pay request of $115,152.83 to Topline Recreation Incorporated for the 2024 Sims Park Playground Surface Replacement Project. The owner's contingency was not utilized as no unforeseen sub-base issues were encountered.

    • motion:Move to approve the deductive change order of $4,000 and final pay request of $115,152.83 to Topline Recreation Inc. for the Sims Park Playground Surface Replacement Project. (passed)5–0

    📍Sims Park🏢Topline Recreation Incorporated👤Mr. Rivera👤Ms. Vance#2024 Sims Park Playground Surface Replacement Project

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    [01:24:50] Moving on to the 2024 Sims Park Playground Surface Replacement Project closeout. [01:24:57] This is also a deductive change order and a request for a final pay request, and Mr. Rivera will present the agenda item. [01:25:06] Thank you, Ms. Vance. [01:25:07] The deductive change order is in the amount of $4,000, [01:25:10] and the final pay request is in the amount of $115,152.83. [01:25:17] This is from Topline Recreation Incorporated. [01:25:21] The $4,000 basically was an owner's contingency that was not utilized. [01:25:26] There were no unforeseen circumstances that we were hoping we wouldn't find as far as the sub-base rework went. [01:25:35] So with that being said, we would ask that you would approve the deductive change order as well as the final pay request. [01:25:42] Is there any public comment? [01:25:45] Seeing none, bring it back for vote. [01:25:47] Move to approve. [01:25:48] Second. [01:25:50] Any comments? [01:25:52] No, I'm good. [01:25:53] Somehow that got installed with no disruption and didn't know what happened. [01:25:58] It was what a clean job it was, so. [01:26:03] All those in favor signify by aye. [01:26:05] Aye. [01:26:06] Those opposed, it's 5-0.

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    Request to Purchase Gravity - Cloud Based Platform

    approved

    Council approved the purchase of the Gravity cloud-based platform from IGM Technology, via reseller SHI International using a piggyback NASPO cloud solutions contract, for an amount not to exceed $63,964.12. The platform will modernize the city's budgeting process and provide lease/debt management compliant with GASB 87, 88, and 96. The annual licensing cost is $38,443.63 with a one-time implementation cost of $25,520.

    • motion:Motion to approve the purchase of the Gravity cloud-based platform for budgeting and debt management in the amount not to exceed $63,964.12. (passed)5–0

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    [01:26:08] Request for purchase of gravity cloud-based platform. [01:26:15] The action being presented, being requested this evening is to review and consider the approval of the purchase of gravity cloud-based platform, [01:26:24] which is a product of IGM Technology. [01:26:27] This will assist us in budget planning and debt management. [01:26:31] This is a budgeted item proposed in the 23-24 capital software budget of the finance department. [01:26:37] The estimated amount is not to exceed $63,964.12, which covers software implementation and annual licensing. [01:26:46] The purchase will be made through a third-party vendor, SHI International, [01:26:50] a reseller for software purchasing using a piggyback agreement on an existing NASBO cloud solutions contract. [01:26:59] The purpose of this purchase is to streamline the budgeting process [01:27:03] to allow multiple users across the organization to participate in the budgeting process. [01:27:09] Budget planning makes it easy to collect our budget requests from departments, [01:27:14] plan the next year annual budget for future capital expenditures, [01:27:19] conduct a one-off analysis of future revenues and expenses. [01:27:24] Currently, we utilize a very manual process. [01:27:27] The city utilizes extensive spreadsheets and multiple Excel files to populate the data, [01:27:32] which produces our current budget book. [01:27:36] Gravity provides a flexible reporting engine that's capable of producing a variety of reports. [01:27:41] Gravity's budget book module automatically updates the tables, the graphs, and the narratives. [01:27:48] This custom design is suited to present the city's layout, our format, and media specifications. [01:27:56] Reports can also be published as a print-ready report, PDF output for electronic distribution, [01:28:03] and e-books for website publishing. [01:28:05] Gravity's online reporting platform provides an open data transparency for our stakeholders, [01:28:10] those being our residents, our city council, and our staff. [01:28:15] These users can view and drill down on charts for more information. [01:28:19] This level of transparency builds our trust with the users by communicating the data [01:28:24] in an easy-to-understand and a visual format. [01:28:27] Gravity also helps to produce an ADA-compliant report, [01:28:31] meeting the standards for the American Disabilities Act. [01:28:35] The other module being presented to you is Gravity's lease and debt management accounting module. [01:28:40] This addresses the annual reporting requirements associated with GASB 87, 88, and 96. [01:28:46] This module will enable the users to track the report, lease, and non-lease expenses. [01:28:51] It generates our financial statement disclosures and produces schedules and journal data, [01:28:56] which will integrate into the city's existing ERP. [01:29:01] The recommendation is that city council approve the purchase of the Gravity cloud-based platform [01:29:07] specific to budgeting and debt management in the amount of $63,964.12. [01:29:15] And again, this purchase is included in the finance department's 23-24 budget for capital software [01:29:20] and the operating budget for software licenses. [01:29:26] Do we have any public comment? [01:29:29] Seeing no one come forward, we'll bring it back for a vote. [01:29:32] I have a question. [01:29:35] Is the $63,000, is that a purchase or one annual license? [01:29:40] We're talking license, or how long is the license? [01:29:44] It's an annual license. [01:29:46] The cost is broken out to $38,443.63 for the annual cost. [01:29:53] The implementation of both programs is $25,520. [01:30:00] So $38,000 is the recurring licensing expense, okay, just wanted to clarify that. [01:30:05] I move approval. [01:30:06] Second. [01:30:07] Any other comment? [01:30:09] Yeah, having been the complainer here about our budget process and timeliness of it, [01:30:14] I'm well aware of the importance of being able to have good tools. [01:30:18] So, I mean, it's a bad carpenter that blames his tools, [01:30:22] but if you don't have the tools, it's hard to be a good carpenter. [01:30:25] So, I mean, the bottom line is we do have some charter provisions [01:30:32] that talk about the timeliness of us getting this information, [01:30:35] and I think this will help us. [01:30:37] And with the size of our budget and the size of our city and the CRA, [01:30:42] I think the annual cost is well worth it to get the assistance that's needed. [01:30:50] Since it's called gravity, will it stay in the cloud or will it keep falling down? [01:30:54] It remains in the cloud. [01:30:55] Okay. [01:30:58] I have a problem, too. [01:30:59] Cloud and gravity just don't mix. [01:31:02] Go ahead. [01:31:04] No, I'll defer to the experts on that one. [01:31:06] It sounded like an IT presentation, so I'm all messed up. [01:31:10] It will make it easier to get the budgets on time [01:31:12] because all those manual spreadsheets, I mean, we need to move into the century [01:31:17] and make it more automated, so definitely need it. [01:31:21] Okay, all those in favor, signify by aye. [01:31:23] Aye. [01:31:24] Those opposed? [01:31:25] We have five nothing. [01:31:26] And going to communications. [01:31:29] We'll start with you, Kelly. [01:31:30] All right. [01:31:31] So first I want to say that Chasco is off to a roaring start. [01:31:35] It was a great weekend. [01:31:37] I heard lots of really, really positive comments. [01:31:39] Everybody enjoyed from the Chasco Coronation Ball to the boat parade, [01:31:44] the concerts, the dragon boats. [01:31:46] I mean, we had so much going on already, lots of positive comments. [01:31:50] The concerts, I think, I don't even remember when the last time was I saw them that crowded. [01:31:55] I mean, the attendance was definitely up this year, and I love that. [01:31:59] So that was good. [01:32:00] And I don't think it even was based on who was there. [01:32:04] We've had much stronger artists there that didn't create the attendance that we had this time,

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16. 11Communications▶ 1:32:07
17. 12Adjournment▶ 1:39:43