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City CouncilTue, Jul 18, 2023

Council denied a special exception for a four-townhome project at 5928 Central Avenue after neighbor opposition, and passed the prohibited-structures ordinance on second reading.

15 items on the agenda · 5 decisions recorded

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    Pledge of Allegiance

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    Moment of Silence

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    Approval of July 5, 2023 Regular Meeting Minutes

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    [00:15:00] And, uh, we, we, as we move forward, I think that, in my opinion, [00:15:04] as we move into the alley, we need to determine what the risk is of this alley, [00:15:08] as far as how we prioritize what we do in the alley. [00:15:12] Now, she had always been, you know, 50 feet from us, [00:15:15] and how we do it, how we're going to take the work, [00:15:17] what kind of contributions we're going to make, all that.

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    Purchases/Payments for City Council Approval

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    Council approved purchases/payments as presented under the consent-style agenda item.

    • motion:Motion to approve the purchases/payments for City Council approval. (passed)
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    [00:20:15] And I, uh, just have to say, [00:20:17] I really appreciate it. [00:20:19] Move for approval. [00:20:19] Second.

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    First Reading, Ordinance No. 2023-2275: Rezoning of +/-0.229 Acres at 5928 Central Avenue

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    First reading of Ordinance 2023-2275 to rezone approximately 0.229 acres at 5928 Central Avenue from MF14 to R3 to allow construction of four townhomes by Capitol Towers II Limited. Multiple residents spoke in opposition citing concerns about neighborhood character, density, parking, and historical value, while the applicant's representative spoke in favor. The City Attorney cautioned the council about potential spot zoning and recommended approving or denying both the rezoning and companion special exception together.

    Ord. Ordinance No. 2023-2275

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    [00:20:37] This is ordinance number 2023-2275, [00:20:40] an ordinance of the city of New Port Richey, Florida, [00:20:42] providing for amendment of the land development code, [00:20:45] zoning district map, [00:20:46] providing for rezoning of approximately [00:20:48] 8.229 acres of property, [00:20:50] generally located at 5928 Central Avenue, [00:20:54] having parcel identification number [00:20:56] 052616003007000730070, [00:21:06] as shown on the map attached here [00:21:07] to this exhibit and legally described here, [00:21:09] providing for amendment of the zoning district designation [00:21:12] for said property from MF14, [00:21:14] meaning family residential, [00:21:16] to R3 residential, [00:21:17] providing for conflicts, [00:21:19] severability, [00:21:19] and an effective deal. [00:21:39] Thank you, Mayor and Council. [00:21:40] The owner of the property, [00:21:41] Capitol Towers II Limited, [00:21:44] is requesting a rezoning [00:21:46] and a special exception [00:21:48] to construct four townhomes on the property. [00:21:51] The presentation I have for you this evening [00:21:54] is for both of those matters. [00:21:57] However, staff has prepared separate reports [00:22:01] and then there are also separate ordinances [00:22:03] for the City Council to consider. [00:22:06] They are companion requests, [00:22:09] so that's the reason why I prepared this presentation [00:22:12] to address both of them at the same time. [00:22:16] Subject property is located mid-block [00:22:28] on the south side of Central Avenue [00:22:30] between Jefferson Street and Madison Avenue, [00:22:33] as shown in the red square. [00:22:36] The existing use presently [00:22:38] is a detached single-family home [00:22:41] which exists on the property. [00:22:44] The other properties along Central [00:22:47] are also single-family homes. [00:22:49] The lot size is .229 acres [00:22:53] and originally there were four separate lots [00:22:56] that were combined some years ago. [00:22:58] Each of those lots were 25 foot in width. [00:23:01] As you see on the zoning map, [00:23:05] this parcel is an MF14, [00:23:07] which is a multifamily, [00:23:08] which is 14 units per acre, [00:23:12] which would allow for a maximum [00:23:15] of three multifamily units [00:23:18] on that property as it sits presently. [00:23:23] Central Avenue, which is located [00:23:24] in the downtown zoning future land use map, [00:23:28] which I'll get to in the next slide, [00:23:30] is seeing a change in its development pattern [00:23:32] with townhomes being developed [00:23:34] east of Madison Street, [00:23:36] on the east side of Madison Street, [00:23:38] and apartments along the western terminus [00:23:40] out in Orange Lake. [00:23:43] The future land use map does show [00:23:45] that the property is zoned downtown, [00:23:48] which allows for residential uses of MF14 [00:23:53] and then also the residential uses [00:23:57] that are allowed in R1, R2, [00:24:00] and R3 zoning classifications. [00:24:04] The concept plan that was submitted [00:24:05] by the applicant shows [00:24:07] that there would be four townhome units [00:24:12] that would be attached, [00:24:14] ranging from approximately [00:24:16] 1,700 square feet [00:24:19] to 2,100 square feet in size. [00:24:22] The lot widths would be 25 foot in width, [00:24:25] which are standard townhome widths. [00:24:30] This is the conceptual architecture [00:24:32] that was submitted with the application. [00:24:37] Rezoning wise, [00:24:38] the staff considers all the guidelines [00:24:41] of the land development code [00:24:44] and found that it's consistent [00:24:45] with the goals, objectives, and policies [00:24:47] of the city's comprehensive plan, [00:24:49] specifically the housing element policy [00:24:53] that talks about a variety [00:24:55] of residential densities and housing types. [00:25:00] Staff reviewed and presented the request [00:25:02] to the LDRB as a companion application, [00:25:05] as it is this evening, [00:25:06] with the special exception. [00:25:08] Staff and LDRB recommended approval [00:25:10] of the rezoning. [00:25:14] The special exception, however, [00:25:18] has additional development standards [00:25:20] that can be placed on the property. [00:25:22] Again, rezoning goes from MF14 to the R3. [00:25:28] In addition, [00:25:29] if that zoning goes through to R3 [00:25:32] to allow for townhomes, [00:25:33] we must have a special exception [00:25:35] that's allowed with that [00:25:37] or is also approved with that. [00:25:39] The special exception had development standards [00:25:41] in the application of setbacks of 25 feet, [00:25:45] rear setbacks of 18 feet, [00:25:47] which allow for parking of a vehicle [00:25:49] in the driveway off the alley [00:25:51] prior to entering into the garage, [00:25:53] and then five foot side setbacks [00:25:56] on the outside parcels. [00:25:57] Obviously, the adjacent parcels [00:25:59] that are side-by-side [00:26:01] wouldn't have any setbacks. [00:26:03] Parking would be two per townhome, [00:26:05] and that does include the garage. [00:26:08] There was some landscaping [00:26:09] that would be approved by staff, [00:26:11] and I showed the building architecture. [00:26:15] There are special exception guidelines [00:26:18] in the code [00:26:19] that must be considered prior to approval. [00:26:24] When this went to LDRB, [00:26:27] the first time through the LDRB, [00:26:29] it was tabled. [00:26:30] The second time through LDRB, [00:26:31] there was a null vote. [00:26:35] Basically, it was a tie vote, [00:26:36] so it went back a third time to LDRB, [00:26:39] and the issue that they were discussing, [00:26:41] and there are minutes [00:26:42] that are part of the staff report [00:26:44] that is available for public consideration, [00:26:50] is number seven, [00:26:51] the use will not adversely affect [00:26:53] the residential character [00:26:54] of the neighborhoods. [00:26:55] There's considerable talk about that item, [00:26:57] but staff, number six, [00:27:01] yeah, number six on that one. [00:27:03] After the third meeting with the LDRB, [00:27:08] staff, like I said, [00:27:09] had reviewed and presented the request [00:27:11] to the LDRB those three times, [00:27:13] and staff at LDRB did come [00:27:16] and recommend approval [00:27:17] of the special exception [00:27:19] with the development standards [00:27:20] to the city council this evening. [00:27:23] Again, the request before you [00:27:25] is companion request, [00:27:27] the rezoning and special exception [00:27:29] to construct four townhomes [00:27:31] on this property. [00:27:32] I'd be more than happy [00:27:34] or available to answer any questions. [00:27:35] The applicant is here to speak [00:27:38] on behalf of his request. [00:27:39] I'll ask. [00:27:42] What would the owner like to speak first? [00:27:56] I don't know if you're here, [00:27:57] but the mic is reading what you said, [00:28:01] but people can't hear you. [00:28:04] If the mic does not contact you, [00:28:06] I'll speak last. [00:28:07] If you speak louder, people in the back want to hear you. [00:28:11] Can everybody hear me? [00:28:13] Nicola Mitchell, and I'm here on behalf of Capital Towers. [00:28:17] We're here today regarding the rezoning application. [00:28:25] The exception that we're looking for allows for the possibility [00:28:29] to have more attached single-family home units. [00:28:34] We're separating the unit. [00:28:36] For the record, we are seeking the R3 zoning destination only [00:28:40] if the exception is granted. [00:28:42] The property right now is in perfect location for the proposed plan. [00:28:46] That downtown area complies with the maximum densities [00:28:50] in that downtown plan due to classification. [00:28:54] The property size is approximately 10,000 square feet, [00:28:58] which is over the 5,000 square foot minimum required [00:29:02] for a single unit that has at least 2,500 square feet per home. [00:29:06] As far as the proposed plan, [00:29:10] it complies with the setbacks and the height. [00:29:14] As mentioned earlier, the setback of the front of the building line [00:29:18] is approximately 25 feet. [00:29:20] Regarding the side of the building, it's approximately 5 feet. [00:29:24] As to the rear of the building line, [00:29:28] it's approximately 5 feet. [00:29:32] As far as the proper height, it does not exceed 35 feet [00:29:36] or 2 1⁄2 stories. [00:29:40] In fact, the proposed plan sets the total height [00:29:44] at approximately 32 feet and also 2 stories. [00:29:48] It's important also to note that there's another property, [00:29:52] 5972 Central Avenue, which is right down the road [00:29:56] from where we did a similar inspection. [00:30:00] Our property also meets the same standards and requirements for the R3 exception as theirs. [00:30:06] And finally, the most important thing is, if my client is allowed to build, we will build the exact same structure as proposed. [00:30:15] Same height, same setbacks, same square footage of the total building. [00:30:21] The only difference is, if the exception is granted, it will be a four-unit roundabout. [00:30:26] Also, there's plenty of space to accommodate the plant. [00:30:30] The building is also, it would be an amazing addition in that area, in the downtown area. [00:30:36] And also, as far as you saw in the photos, the exterior of the building will be constructed out of the concrete. [00:30:43] Those aesthetics of the downtown area. [00:30:45] And just for those reasons, I ask that you grant the application. [00:30:49] If there's any questions regarding the construction of the project, I can be available to answer those. [00:31:19] Hello. My name is Bill. 5914 Central Avenue. [00:31:35] I rise in respect to say I disagree with the zoning ordinance for you not to pass either the R3 or the special exception. [00:31:47] We have a neighborhood that is single-family. [00:31:51] It's a nice neighborhood. I've lived there ten years. [00:31:57] The city has done fine things throughout its time. [00:32:01] We enjoy it. [00:32:03] But you're changing the definition of a neighborhood when you put four units in a place where there's only been one house. [00:32:13] We went to the Land Development Review Board immediately when we found out about it. [00:32:19] Unfortunately, no one bothered to notify us for the second or the third meeting. [00:32:24] We would have been there. [00:32:26] I don't know. I got nothing. [00:32:29] I saw a sign marked in front of the house on the 18th of June. [00:32:35] Strangely enough, I didn't get a notification by mail until the 27th. [00:32:40] That was a post-mortem date. [00:32:45] So, it's really tough to get information as a citizen from the city. [00:32:51] I ask you that you take this and table it. [00:32:55] Take it to workshop. [00:32:57] Notify the necessary residents. [00:32:59] You have to live next to this with the construction, with the sand, with the debris. [00:33:05] And let's really do some real planning. [00:33:08] We spent a lot of money in 2016 for a comprehensive plan. [00:33:13] I was there at a couple of the meetings. [00:33:16] I mean, this was big contact dollars. [00:33:19] Let's stay with it. [00:33:21] Unless we can really come up with a good deal. [00:33:25] I understand the capital partners wanting to make a few bucks. [00:33:29] I think that's great. That's the American way. [00:33:32] But, do we really want to change the nature of the whole neighborhood? [00:33:40] All the blocks between Madison and Adams. [00:33:44] For a buy-go. [00:33:49] Somebody's going to make money. [00:33:51] They're going to be gone. [00:33:52] People are going to live there. [00:33:54] We're going to have parking problems. [00:33:56] All of that's wonderful. [00:33:58] I do appreciate the thought of the 25 foot setbacks. [00:34:02] Because the ones on the east side of Madison will be another stalled project. [00:34:10] We need to avoid that. [00:34:12] We need to plan this a little better. [00:34:14] I urge you to take it to table. [00:34:16] Put a plan on it. [00:34:17] Do a little more planning. [00:34:19] Figure out exactly what's all included in the capital partnership. [00:34:24] Thank you so much. [00:34:25] I am here tonight as well. [00:34:43] My name is Russ. [00:34:45] I am the CEO of Central Avenue. [00:34:47] I've been involved in the construction for a long time. [00:34:49] I've been involved with the brand-new Central Avenue. [00:34:51] I've been involved with the corporate side of it. [00:34:53] I've been involved with the building of the townhomes. [00:34:55] Central Avenue is historic. [00:34:57] We all know that. [00:34:58] You know some of the history of Central Avenue. [00:35:00] The gas station, the post office. [00:35:01] I mean, it's exciting. [00:35:02] It's wonderful. [00:35:03] That's why I love living in the Community. [00:35:05] I've lived here 30 years. [00:35:06] I've been to Central Avenue twice. [00:35:08] I rented it one time, a five year period. [00:35:10] I was the homeowner. [00:35:12] Most of the houses in our section, from Madison down to Adams, were originally built in 1916. [00:35:19] We run across the street. [00:35:21] One of them, that's where it is. [00:35:23] In 1916, the house was built. [00:35:25] The most recent house on Central Avenue? [00:35:27] 1968. [00:35:29] We are historic. [00:35:30] Fifty-five years ago. [00:35:32] So, I understand the progress. [00:35:34] We're not hearing any progress. [00:35:35] We love the city. [00:35:36] We want progress in the city. [00:35:37] But we don't want it. [00:35:40] We all need to make money. [00:35:43] It's a business. [00:35:44] I get it. [00:35:45] Sometimes it just doesn't fit. [00:35:46] It just doesn't fit on our street and that block. [00:35:50] It's in the middle of the block. [00:35:52] It's on the end cap, like it is on the street. [00:35:54] Again, parking. [00:35:57] I mean, the construction. [00:35:59] I agree with Rex. [00:36:01] Let's change this. [00:36:03] Let's talk more about it. [00:36:05] It will change the face of our street, but the historical value to it as well. [00:36:12] So, I come before you begging you to at least detail it. [00:36:16] If you don't make decisions tonight, then at least detail it for further discussion. [00:36:21] Thank you. [00:36:35] Good evening. [00:36:38] My name is Crystal. [00:36:40] 5834 Central Avenue. [00:36:43] And thank you for sending me a notice about tonight's meeting so I could meet you. [00:36:48] I also attended the market meeting of the Land Development Review Board because I received a note. [00:36:54] As I understand it, there are two matters. [00:36:57] One is rezoning and the other is a special construction. [00:37:02] Both have been requested by the owner. [00:37:04] The Land Development Review Board acted separately on each matter. [00:37:09] I'm in support of the rezoning and I appreciate that the owner applied for it. [00:37:14] I understand that the owner hopes a special exception will be granted. [00:37:19] The owner knew that the rezoning and special exception would be separate actions. [00:37:25] I'm opposed to the special exception. [00:37:30] The special exception application says, quote, [00:37:33] City Council is not bound to grant a conditional use for special exception simply because a request is made. [00:37:42] It must find that the use will not adversely affect the public interest, end quote. [00:37:48] As I said during the March LDR meeting, [00:37:51] no other lots on either side of the street on that block have 8,000 to 10,000 square feet of structure compressed on that amount of land. [00:38:01] The project will be out of scale with all neighbors on its block and in the middle of the block. [00:38:08] The owner is seeking greater unit density than is currently allowed. [00:38:14] Exceeding that limitation would be detrimental to the block, which has all single-family homes. [00:38:21] I'm aware that downsizing, I'm sorry, I'm aware that downzoning is a significant issue. [00:38:28] I don't like to make decisions based on fear. [00:38:32] Clearly, the change in zoning was initiated by the owner, who knew the special exception would be voted on separately. [00:38:43] This council has the ability to approve rezoning and reject the special exception request. [00:38:54] I believe that the owner's representative gave 5972 Central as a good example of what to expect of this project that's under consideration. [00:39:06] I don't know if he meant the project that's currently at Central in Madison. [00:39:12] The current residents of Central Avenue see that as an example of a horrific neighbor with a small single-family house next door. [00:39:22] If you can't vote separately on the rezoning and the special exception, then I agree with my neighbors. [00:39:32] Please take this map. Thank you. [00:39:36] Thank you. [00:40:06] Thank you. [00:40:36] Thank you. [00:41:06] Thank you. [00:41:32] Thank you. [00:41:36] I'm going to talk about accepting and not accepting. [00:41:45] I think having a more consistent setback is a good thing. [00:41:51] Although you will get a setback from all the systems, the right to pay is also a setback. [00:41:59] It's just that their house is setbacked more, which actually is a good thing. [00:42:08] A lot of houses have been setbacked. [00:42:14] You get more of these than certain other houses. [00:42:17] I'm not going to go into too much detail about that. [00:42:24] I'm going to be rambling a little bit. [00:42:29] Incidentally, I was looking at a valuation of a lot of currency. [00:42:34] I'm not going to go into too much detail about that. [00:42:39] The base model is the currency. [00:42:42] It's the amount of money. [00:42:44] The top is the certain amount of interest. [00:42:47] The bottom is the foreclosure. [00:42:49] The middle is the setback. [00:42:51] The bottom is the foreclosure. [00:42:53] The middle is the setback. [00:42:55] Any other questions? [00:43:25] I am going to concur with what Rex said. [00:43:34] I was here, I believe, the first land and development meeting where the gentleman in the middle was presenting. [00:43:44] I have to agree. [00:43:46] I think you should listen to what the residents have said. [00:43:51] Take what they have said. [00:43:53] This isn't the first time they've said it, I assure you. [00:43:56] I'm pretty sure you guys know that as well. [00:43:58] Like Ms. Jennifer said, we have a lot of history. [00:44:02] My family has been a part of this community since 1925. [00:44:06] I've seen many changes. [00:44:08] I've seen lots of changes, good and some bad. [00:44:11] We like some of the things that are going on, but we also want to say to everybody and all the developers who think they can come into this city and do stuff like this. [00:44:22] Our city is not for sale. [00:44:24] These are family homes on this street. [00:44:28] Single family homes. [00:44:30] And what they're presenting is putting up something that doesn't even look aesthetically pleasing. [00:44:40] I don't understand why we're even here. [00:44:43] You guys should have been positive and said we're not going to do this. [00:44:46] Let's talk to the people and see what they want to do. [00:44:51] Because I know right now we're having a housing crisis. [00:44:53] People in this city can't even afford to find a decent home to live in. [00:45:00] Record, how much is one of these starting out? How much does it cost to build this? What's the price for one of these? [00:45:07] Four hundred and fifty thousand dollars. [00:45:10] Really? [00:45:12] I don't know about y'all, but I can't afford that. [00:45:16] Who can afford it? Who are you really trying to attract to move to this city? [00:45:20] Because what it looks like is you're pushing out the residents who have been here forever. [00:45:24] Our families have been here for centuries. [00:45:27] And we're just going to cave because the developers got the money? [00:45:30] I'm not saying that's what's going on, but that's what it looks like. [00:45:33] I'm not afraid to say it. [00:45:35] I see it. [00:45:37] All you got to do is look at the text messages. [00:45:41] Anybody want to take time to do that? You'll find out a lot. [00:45:45] But I agree. Let's listen to the residents. Let's table this. [00:45:49] Because I'm going to be honest, I have nothing wrong with making money in architecture, development, whatever. [00:45:55] But right here in our city where it's a heart, family, tight-knit community, all these people know each other for many years. [00:46:03] To just go ahead and put something up like that that's going to cause disturbances, traffic, parking. [00:46:08] You've heard numerous, numerous things that are being done on this project. [00:46:13] So I'm for you. [00:46:15] I'm sorry, you guys have to talk. [00:46:18] Table it. You don't have to cave with the pressure that some of you are under from other outside sources. [00:46:23] Thank you. [00:46:27] Anybody else like to speak? [00:46:54] So there are two requests, as Mr. Hall pointed out. [00:46:59] And I would like to caution you that you are inclined to approve the vote. [00:47:07] Only approve it if you're inclined to approve the vote. [00:47:10] If you're not in favor of a special settlement, you should not approve the vote. [00:47:17] That's what the application requested. [00:47:19] And that was based on the downside of the property that he is doing specifically with that particular special settlement. [00:47:27] So I would just ask that you vote for or in favor of a total vote. [00:47:32] If you're going to vote against it, vote against it. [00:47:36] And I just have a couple of comments about the application that I want to advise you about. [00:47:41] Number one, I have a concern that the rezoning is potentially spot zoning. [00:47:50] Because you have an MF14 district and the nearest R3 is across Madison Avenue on the other side of the street. [00:47:58] There is no surrounding R3 in that particular area. [00:48:02] So I think that's a concern that you should at least consider whether or not you think that this falls into that category of spot zoning. [00:48:09] What the applicant said about what can be built there in the MF14, you can also take that into consideration. [00:48:17] As of right now, the applicant has the ability to construct a three-unit triplex without any special approval from the city council. [00:48:28] So I think you can take that into consideration as well. [00:48:31] I think you can also take into consideration with respect to the special exception whether it meets the character of the neighborhood. [00:48:39] You can determine whether or not this particular application falls into and is inconsistent with the character of the neighborhood. [00:48:49] And although you have a project across Madison Avenue that is very similar, [00:48:58] you can also determine whether or not the character of the neighborhood has to be in the MF14 on the street level. [00:49:04] So you may, of course, take those into consideration. [00:49:08] And also, the property that's in the first year that's across Madison is also in R3, [00:49:16] which is also adjacent to other parts of the property. [00:49:19] So I think you have to look at all those factors. [00:49:21] I certainly think you can take more into consideration. [00:49:24] But I do recommend highly that you do not approve one without the other. [00:49:30] You can approve it. [00:49:32] Both approve both. [00:49:34] If you both deny it, both deny it. [00:49:37] It's not the right thing to do. [00:49:40] Any other questions? [00:49:44] Sir, my question is... [00:49:46] ... [00:50:16] The zoning of the one that's on Madison Avenue is R3 with a special exception, like this request would be also. [00:50:27] And if I could clarify, the only place townhomes are allowed in our code presently is in R3 with a special exception. [00:50:38] So that's why the applicant is asking for that. [00:50:46] Well, I mean, there's been two requests. [00:50:49] One is that we table, which doesn't make any sense to me because if we table it, we're going to have the same discussions. [00:50:55] Everyone's going to come back again, and I don't see any sense that there's any compromise in the wind. [00:51:01] So that being said, it wouldn't be appropriate to make an opinion unless a motion is made. [00:51:08] So unless someone wants to make a motion, we have to dispose of this item. [00:51:14] Tabling doesn't make sense. [00:51:18] And so we've already heard a sneak preview from one. [00:51:22] I wouldn't... [00:51:23] So I'm not going to make any comments. [00:51:26] I'm not going to make any comments. [00:51:49] I move we deny the request. [00:51:57] Yeah. [00:52:04] So, I'm giving this a lot of thought because I want to be clear that I am a proponent of increased density within the city. [00:52:19] I have seen other beautiful historic neighborhoods that has a mixture of dwellings, meaning single-family dwellings, duplexes, quadplexes, so forth. [00:52:35] And it works. I've seen it work in other areas. [00:52:40] And I think it's attractive. [00:52:43] As I looked at this, and I'll tell you, some time ago I went for a jog. I don't know if it was a jog area, but it was raining and I was coming out. [00:52:53] And I walked down that street, knowing this was coming up, and I wanted to get a good feel for that particular section of town, single-family, and so forth. [00:53:03] And I think it's a very important street in our city. [00:53:09] And there's a mixture of houses there. Someone said 1916 and 1968, if I remember right. [00:53:18] And so there's a mixture of houses. [00:53:21] But one thing that kept, a recurring theme that I saw as I walked in and out of the house was that it was kind of a street. [00:53:28] And the houses had some different characteristics, but one common characteristic I kept seeing over and over, not in every house, but maybe three-quarters of the houses. [00:53:38] Some of them were smaller than others, some were bigger than others. [00:53:42] And I happened to see, and I didn't keep them here, but I've got a list of photographs of one of these houses that I'm going to show. [00:53:50] So here I am, gym shorts, all sweaty, taking pictures, and I've got these people yelling at me asking why I'm taking pictures. [00:53:57] But I just wanted to have them go back and look at them again and see if I still felt that way. [00:54:02] So the reason that I want to deny this is that I think it's just a little bit overbuilt. [00:54:11] I don't think the architecture is such that it fits well within the characteristics. [00:54:17] And when I think about this, I think about not only today, but I think about what that's going to look like 30 years from now or 40 years from now. [00:54:26] Within our city, we have an abundance of neighborhoods. [00:54:30] We have a lot of single-family homes with a nice sized lot, a small lot, and then right next door is a bi-plex or a duplex or a quadplex that is not so nice. [00:54:41] It hasn't been maintained. It had no architectural characteristics. [00:54:45] But I bet when that was built in 1966 or 1970, whatever year that was built, it was nice and new. It looked fine, right? [00:54:53] It didn't weather well. Those duplexes and quadplexes don't seem to weather like they do when they're just built for income property or return. [00:55:05] But I know this is not a little property. This is a single-family dwelling unit. [00:55:12] If I'm going to give a special exception, I think it has to be a special property. [00:55:17] And for that reason, I don't quite see it happening. [00:55:24] I pretty well agree with Dianne. I'm not a proponent of squeezing more into smaller spaces. [00:55:44] I don't think that squeezing the floor in there is going to make it look the way it should. [00:55:51] And in regards to density, I'm in favor of building a freezer, but I think that's going to be better. [00:55:59] I just don't like the whole building block. Squeezing in there and all the other stuff. [00:56:14] It was good to demonstrate at the end what the other property is next to Madison. [00:56:20] Okay, I can make a case for that. It makes sense. It's off of another wall. It's on another roadway. [00:56:29] We're working a roadway that's not in the middle of all the other houses, but it simplifies it. [00:56:38] Yeah, so I'm going to just go off a little different on this. [00:56:43] First of all, to say, you know, the petitioner did it. He thinks it can be the exact same building the way it should look. [00:56:52] And it has the right to do it, and it could be just a little bit bigger. [00:56:55] So I think from a standpoint of aesthetics or what it's going to look like, [00:56:59] it doesn't seem like the residents' concerns about it being in the middle of the block or what it's going to look like [00:57:06] will be mollified by this action. [00:57:09] You might have one less family there, and that really works, I think, [00:57:14] to Mr. Starten's point against the argument of this much density. [00:57:19] So is one more family going to make or break this down? No. [00:57:22] Is three houses, three residents in that lot going to work? Sure it will. [00:57:30] And they'll be your neighbors, and you're going to have, hopefully, just as likely. [00:57:34] If, in fact, he follows through with what he says. [00:57:37] It was suggested that there was a sense of bullying or having their arms twisted, [00:57:42] that if I don't get what I want, and to that point, for us to approve it as the attorney has recommended, [00:57:49] which we don't unless we think clearly that we would be putting the developer or the builder, [00:57:54] the property owner, into a position where he's got less than what he could have gotten if he wanted to do. [00:58:02] I would applaud them, and the fact that they're building a town home. [00:58:06] These duplexes and rental properties have been, at one point, were argued to be the answer for our city [00:58:13] because they didn't have homestead exemption, and we would get all of that real estate value in taxes. [00:58:18] And it really was a mistake in hindsight. [00:58:22] My sister is on the, Ann is on the historical board of Tide Park, [00:58:27] and works hard and tirelessly to protect the character of that old neighborhood that has some incredible history to it. [00:58:35] Your appeal to history and to that neighborhood is commendable, [00:58:45] but this doesn't stop what is being suggested is going to happen from happening. [00:58:54] So, it's kind of a moot point in my mind. It's really a matter of pressure. [00:59:01] Being an elected official, this is the hard stuff because you really have to think about what you're doing from a legal standpoint, [00:59:08] from a zoning standpoint, and from an overall standpoint. [00:59:12] My disappointment is that the comments about how we're historical, that we're not. [00:59:17] That we had a historical committee that we formed years ago that was supposed to help protect our downtown and its historic character, [00:59:26] and I haven't heard any response as to whether that committee has been formed, meeting, or is doing anything. [00:59:33] We had a visit to Mr. Starkey's talk of the town some time ago from Dale McCossa, [00:59:41] who's a really well-respected historical planner from the city of Tampa that goes way back through our regional history, [00:59:49] and he gave a nice speech about the ways in which we could protect the historical character without going so overboard that we couldn't have development happen. [01:00:00] We need that good advice and we need to have a good plan. [01:00:05] Unfortunately, comprehensive plans and this restriction that we've been given that it might be spot zoning [01:00:15] is a legal argument that's been given to us by our council and one that I've seen my colleagues listening to. [01:00:22] It's a big factor playing into this decision that's about to happen. [01:00:31] But I'm a proponent of density as well and I think that our town's success and our business' success [01:00:40] are a little more urbanized. Small town urban, not big city urban, but we need that density. [01:00:49] But you have a small little cove of older homes. [01:00:55] There's no restriction right now that someone can't buy one of those homes and take them down and build a new home, [01:01:01] whatever it's going to look like. I'm not aware of any architectural standards that we have for that street. [01:01:06] You're fighting to protect something that doesn't exist other than it's there, which means it really does exist, [01:01:12] but there's no guarantees that your house or anybody else's house is going to be maintained in that structure [01:01:20] with that kind of respect. So my encouragement would be to say, since you've come out and shown your passion for it, [01:01:26] that maybe some of you would volunteer to try to help put folks on our architectural committee in our town [01:01:32] and help us preserve the architecture and become part of it. [01:01:35] You know, we can't do this on our own and it's been said by my colleagues many times that we don't have the folks [01:01:43] that come out in a positive way to help lay out the groundwork for us so that we can have the right respect [01:01:49] and developers know what they're getting into when they buy a piece of land. [01:01:53] Once again, I don't think anything we do today stops them from doing what they could do. [01:01:58] It could be a bigger house with all kinds of little children running around it. [01:02:02] And I'm sure you'll be happy to welcome them into your parking lot. [01:02:06] Well, let's see where this goes. [01:02:09] In my 40 years in this town, I saw a lot of fill-ins where nice residential homes were in them. [01:02:18] And they might have built them in the 50s, 50s, 50s, maybe even in the 60s. [01:02:22] And they filled them in with two-plexes and five-plexes. [01:02:24] And they really don't have a lot of space. [01:02:26] And they don't have a lot of space. [01:02:28] And they don't have a lot of space. [01:02:30] And they don't have a lot of space. [01:02:33] And they don't have a lot of space. [01:02:35] And they fill them in with two-plexes and five-plexes. [01:02:38] And they really don't fit in that neighborhood. [01:02:41] But they wanted to bring more people into the town. [01:02:43] And I kind of understand it. [01:02:44] But now I look at them, and it's a mistake. [01:02:47] I also bought a piece of property on — I'll leave the street unknown right now. [01:02:53] But I built a house on that. [01:02:55] And I built a house that's mixed in with the neighborhood. [01:02:57] And I think if I took you down the street, the attention out there, [01:03:00] if you took me down the street, the property couldn't take out the house. [01:03:03] Because I think it's fitted to make it fit in the neighborhood. [01:03:06] And I think that's a little important, especially when it's your town, my town. [01:03:10] I came here in 83 and built that house in 96. [01:03:14] But that was a little important to me to make it fit in the neighborhood. [01:03:18] So I have a real hard problem with spot building, if you want to call it. [01:03:23] Just bring something new in. [01:03:25] Just throw it in there and be happy with it. [01:03:28] I really believe that this is my town now. [01:03:32] And that's the way we should take a look at the properties and the buildings [01:03:36] so that the neighborhood fits the building. [01:03:39] It builds in the neighborhood and fits in that neighborhood. [01:03:41] So I'm really not in favor of spot building. [01:03:45] So I'm going to put it on the first one. [01:03:53] Tony, Tony. [01:03:55] All those in favor? [01:03:58] Motion to approve. [01:04:00] Motion to approve. [01:04:02] Aye. [01:04:03] Senator Boehner? [01:04:04] Aye. [01:04:05] Brett Baker? [01:04:06] Aye. [01:04:07] All those in favor? [01:04:09] Aye. [01:04:10] All those opposed? [01:04:11] Aye. [01:04:13] We have one vote. [01:04:14] We have 20. [01:04:16] We want a special extension. [01:04:17] Do you want to take it or? [01:04:21] Yes, let me read the title. [01:04:22] Orders number 2023-2276, an ordinance of the City of Newport Ridge in Florida [01:04:28] to approve pursuant to section 5.02.06 of the Land Development Code [01:04:33] is special exception for the development of an attached single-family [01:04:36] townhome project within the R3 zoning district [01:04:39] in accordance with the Downtown Future Land Use Classification [01:04:42] for property located at 5928 Central Avenue, [01:04:45] a Tasmore particularly described herein, [01:04:47] providing for complex severability and effectiveness. [01:04:58] As the R3 was denied on this, you can't vote to approve this special exception,

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  7. 7.b

    First Reading, Ordinance No. 2023-2276: Special Exception for +/-0.229 Acres at 5928 Central Avenue

    denied

    Council voted to deny the special exception for the property at 5928 Central Avenue, following denial of a related item. No second reading will occur on this ordinance.

    Ord. Ordinance No. 2023-2276

    • motion:Motion to deny the special exception for 5928 Central Avenue. (passed)
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    [01:05:07] you have to follow through with the denial on this one as well. [01:05:12] Does it become a moot point? [01:05:14] It does, and I think you can vote as well. [01:05:29] I move we deny this special exception. [01:05:32] And I'll second that. [01:05:36] All those in favor, say aye. [01:05:38] Aye. [01:05:43] And there will be no second reading on either of these ordinances. [01:05:46] These are denied. [01:05:48] Thank you. [01:05:50] All right, second reading of ordinance 2023-2277. [01:05:54] This is ordinance number 2023-2277, [01:05:57] an ordinance of the City of Newport Ridge, Florida, [01:06:00] providing for amendment of Section 7.22.00 of Chapter 7 [01:06:04] of the Land Development Code pertaining to general district regulations [01:06:08] in the zoning chapter, providing for a new Section 7.22.06 [01:06:13] pertaining to prohibited structures, [01:06:15] providing for prohibition of shipping containers in all zoning districts, [01:06:21] providing for prohibition of mobile homes outside the mobile home park zoning district, MHP, [01:06:27] providing for amendment of Section 2.01.00 pertaining to definitions of terms, [01:06:33] providing for definitions of terms to be used herein, providing for severability, [01:06:38] providing for conflicts, providing for complication, and providing an effective date. [01:06:48] I do not have a PowerPoint presentation, but what this ordinance does, [01:06:53] it's the second reading of this ordinance that clarifies the location of two separate building types [01:06:58] or structures in the city. [01:07:00] One is shipping containers and the other one is mobile homes. [01:07:04] Very briefly, the current policy of the city is to allow for temporary placement [01:07:09] of shipping containers on construction sites that have valid building permits [01:07:15] and are actively under development. [01:07:17] There's also a definition of what a shipping container actually is. [01:07:21] And then the second item that is clarified in this ordinance, [01:07:25] it doesn't prohibit mobile homes throughout the city, [01:07:29] but it clarifies that mobile homes are allowed to be placed in mobile home parks [01:07:35] and not in other residentially zoned properties. [01:07:38] Those are the two items in the ordinance. [01:07:40] It's under one ordinance resolution. [01:07:42] Thank you very much. [01:07:43] Is there any other comments? [01:07:48] Seeing none, we're going to go ahead and move it back.

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  8. 7.c

    Second Reading, Ordinance No. 2023-2277: Prohibited Structures

    approved

    Second reading of Ordinance No. 2023-2277 regarding prohibited structures. A motion to approve was made and seconded, and the ordinance passed on a voice vote with no discussion.

    Ord. Ordinance No. 2023-2277

    • motion:Motion to approve Ordinance No. 2023-2277 (Prohibited Structures) on second reading. (passed)
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    [01:07:50] We're going to move to the second. [01:07:52] I move to approve. [01:07:53] Second. [01:07:54] Any other comments? [01:07:57] No. [01:07:59] We're going to go ahead and vote on what's in favor. [01:08:01] Aye. [01:08:02] Aye. [01:08:03] Opposed? [01:08:05] Aye. [01:08:06] Opposed? [01:08:09] We're going to move on to the third item, [01:08:12] the 2023 criminal rights act, as I call it. [01:08:16] Second.

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  9. 8.a

    2023 Cotee River Bike Fest Alcohol Beverage Special Event Permit

    approved

    Council approved a special event alcohol beverage permit for the 2023 Cotee River Bike Fest. Discussion noted the event raises significant funds for charity, including the Children's Burn Foundation of Florida (approximately $15,000/year for the past decade), with a target of around $30,000 for charity this year.

    • motion:Motion to approve the 2023 Cotee River Bike Fest Alcohol Beverage Special Event Permit. (passed)
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    [01:09:18] Second. [01:09:19] Aye. [01:09:24] Opposed? [01:09:25] Aye. [01:09:26] Opposed? [01:09:28] Aye. [01:09:29] Second. [01:09:30] Arguments. [01:09:31] Any discussion? [01:09:32] Discussion? [01:09:33] No. [01:09:34] Second. [01:09:35] No. [01:09:36] We are adjourned. [01:09:37] Thank you. [01:09:38] Thank you. [01:09:40] Thank you. [01:09:41] Thank you very much. [01:09:46] Thank you. [01:09:51] Thank you. [01:09:56] Thank you. [01:10:01] Thank you. [01:10:06] Thank you. [01:10:11] Thank you. [01:10:16] Thank you. [01:10:21] Thank you. [01:10:26] Thank you. [01:10:31] Thank you. [01:10:36] Thank you. [01:10:41] Thank you. [01:10:46] All right. [01:10:53] Thank you. [01:10:58] Thank you. [01:11:03] Thank you. [01:11:08] Thank you. [01:11:13] Thank you. [01:11:18] I just want to thank you there, and City Council, for approving it. [01:11:32] And I think it's a good idea to put a tax on it, because then we're going to sell less beer. [01:11:38] So anyway, thank you. [01:11:41] The money goes to non-profits. [01:11:46] The money does go to two non-profits. [01:11:49] One of them is Children's Burn Foundation of Florida, which they've been giving for the last ten years, actually. [01:11:58] And it amounts to being about $15,000 a year. [01:12:02] So it helps a lot of kids. [01:12:05] Some severely burned, some not so severely. [01:12:08] It helps a lot of kids. [01:12:10] We appreciate it. [01:12:13] That's Dr. Farrell's peers. [01:12:16] That's our half. [01:12:18] They're the older side. [01:12:21] Yeah, they used to do. [01:12:24] Thank you. [01:12:26] Thank you. [01:12:28] Awesome. [01:12:30] Tom Carpagnone, 1940 Brush Lane. [01:12:37] C-A-R-P-I-N-O-N-E. [01:12:42] I know where it's going. [01:12:44] All right, bring it back. [01:12:47] I'll make the motion to approve. [01:12:51] Yes, sir. [01:12:52] We've heard that there's a potential $30,000 raise for charity. [01:13:00] As a result, that was the target, and more may be less. [01:13:04] I think that's good knowledge to have when we do talk as a group about what we can do, [01:13:09] considering that I don't know how much expense they incurred over and above the charitable part of it. [01:13:19] But I think I look forward to having this conversation with them a little bit more to support our events [01:13:27] and also share in making sure that these events do provide for charity, [01:13:33] that they don't have a bad year when they don't have anything, [01:13:36] but when they do have a good year, maybe we can find a way to help them to support our ongoing events. [01:13:43] Yes, I agree. [01:13:45] This is always a great event. [01:13:46] There's a lot of money for charity, and typically one of the charities is always a children's charity, [01:13:52] and then there's still a lot of other charities. [01:13:56] So it's always a good event. [01:13:59] Okay. [01:14:01] I just want to say, in terms of Mike's list, we're getting people coming down to have somewhere between $20,000 [01:14:10] and $50,000 for a state community service. [01:14:17] I'm looking forward to it. [01:14:19] I talked to Lisa recently, and she said she wouldn't think that they came to my store, [01:14:24] but I have a 40% increase in this event. [01:14:27] I'm sure they might not take the things that purchased at home, [01:14:32] but there's a lot of what Lisa had to say at their home, [01:14:36] and there's a lot to be decided. [01:14:49] So all those in favor? [01:14:51] Aye. [01:14:52] Opposed? [01:14:54] I hope. [01:14:57] Yeah, there's a request for emergency.

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  10. 8.b

    Request for Emergency Purchase of Dell VX-Rail System

    Agenda item regarding an emergency purchase request for a Dell VX-Rail System. Transcript content is not available for detailed extraction.

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  11. 9Communications1:25:00
  12. 10Adjournment1:27:30
  13. 1Call to Order – Roll Call
  14. 6.b

    Environmental Committee Minutes - June 2023

    on consent

    Acceptance of the Environmental Committee minutes from June 2023.

  15. 6.c

    Library Advisory Board Minutes - May 2023

    on consent

    Acceptance of the Library Advisory Board minutes from May 2023.