Council walked through proposed FY23-24 departmental budgets, with debate over whether the city should share revenue from events it helps fund.
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Review of Proposed Departmental Budgets for FY23-24
discussedCouncil reviewed proposed FY23-24 departmental budgets in a work session. Discussion focused on city support for major events (4th of July, golf cart parade, etc.), with one councilmember urging the city to treat event support as a partnership where the city could share revenue or charge fees to offset costs. The Library Director presented the library budget, highlighting reductions in printing/binding (using in-house marketing), software licensing increases (Apollo/Envisionics ILS), AV equipment from a Room-to-Zoom grant, and a new bus pass sales service partnering with PCPT. Two new full-time positions discussed including a grant writer.
- direction:Council direction to explore including revenue projections in event budgets and partnering with event organizers to share profits rather than only absorbing costs. (none)
- direction:Correction noted to library budget: postage line for FY23-24 should be $15,000. (none)
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[00:15:12] I'd love to see a treatment that they monitor how much money is collected by charities that they do support. [00:15:21] We know that that's a big part of it. [00:15:25] Let us have the money. [00:15:27] That would be helpful for us to monitor in those big events. [00:15:31] And then the other ones, you continue to run the program the way you have. [00:15:36] But that whole process, other than for safety purposes or coordination purposes, [00:15:43] just to have you add it up. [00:15:46] I'll ask you. [00:15:48] ... [00:16:11] I'm not, for a moment, saying they don't have a good idea of what's needed. [00:16:18] But for us to try to bring food to them, to walk around with them, to get them to a good place, [00:16:25] I mean, we would probably be getting the same 20,000, if we took the percentages that we did, [00:16:33] to get the same 25% in the emergency. [00:16:36] The real concern is when you have a big rain event or washout completely, [00:16:42] that these organizations don't have the reserves. [00:16:46] The Christmas rains come back this time of year. [00:16:49] We don't know if they do the Christmas rains. [00:16:52] If they make money, they ought to share it with us. [00:16:55] And if they don't, then somebody else has to spend all their money. [00:17:03] Or that's different because there isn't really a collection for it. [00:17:08] It's just a parade. [00:17:11] But even like the golf cart parade, [00:17:14] but we took a lot of money from it. [00:17:19] So I think that's a really good question. [00:17:22] How can we encourage these organizations to do things like that? [00:17:26] We have to put more money into that than we do usually. [00:17:30] And then to say, hey, we've lost money, it's costing us, it's not worth it, [00:17:35] by trying to create more support. [00:17:37] So I appreciate that you're putting a number there. [00:17:43] But it's a number that unless you reduce the expenses of financial statements [00:17:49] of the fire and emergency department, [00:17:51] the proposed cost there is a non-tax increase. [00:17:58] Yes. [00:18:01] Okay. [00:18:05] Five, four, three, two, one. [00:18:13] Five, four, three, two, one. [00:18:22] Five, four, three, two, one. [00:18:29] They are reformed major events and they are preverbal checks [00:18:41] by FASC, Fair Chance Co., 4th of July, and the Personnel Department. [00:18:51] I'm suggesting that we put revenue in our budgets, that we expect revenue. [00:19:07] I don't have a place to put that. [00:19:09] I don't know that there's an industry for that kind of stuff there. [00:19:13] For the difference of the things that go against the $8,000 number, [00:19:19] that's never going to be, I don't think it is, [00:19:23] the transfer of money out to the county. [00:19:26] I don't know how much this is going to cost. [00:19:56] Five, four, three, two, one. [00:20:25] Yes, I agree 100%. [00:20:28] The point is that the residents who are now being asked to invest over $5, [00:20:33] that's why we have money and that's why we were able to set it as well. [00:20:37] My point is that we could tell people to come, pay a few dollars, [00:20:40] and help us cover the cost. [00:20:42] The other one that I'm going to show, [00:20:44] the residents of the businesses are paying taxes, sales tax, [00:20:48] and they are a revenue stream for it. [00:20:52] In many cases, they support the events as well. [00:20:56] But I think, personally, [00:20:58] that it would be good to know how much money they're paying. [00:21:02] Let's talk about what the line is there, [00:21:06] a friendly student, or a friendly, [00:21:09] now it's a gal up there, [00:21:12] come see me. [00:21:14] We feel that they're not going to want to put that money into it. [00:21:20] If they come back to the city, [00:21:22] and if we come back to the city, [00:21:25] then do we have a partner that can come in and help the city operate it [00:21:29] and make money and give some of that money back? [00:21:33] I don't know. [00:22:04] I agree with you. [00:22:05] I think that the idea is that we can actually have the kind of talent that's needed [00:22:10] without having to charge all the time, [00:22:13] which is free of charge. [00:22:14] That's funded by the benefits repo. [00:22:17] So, when someone comes in and says, [00:22:19] I've got to say, it's like, [00:22:20] we're using the budget free of charge, [00:22:21] they're just using it for profit, [00:22:23] but it's only a profit for the department of finance, [00:22:26] for better or for worse. [00:22:28] That's all I'm asking. [00:22:29] I think it would be great if that, [00:22:31] not just the budget, [00:22:32] I think you would say, [00:22:33] but the budget money, [00:22:34] because we can get our own. [00:22:38] And that's a good thing. [00:22:39] We don't have to pay any less than we would if we took the calculation [00:22:43] and put it in there. [00:22:45] But when those bad years come, [00:22:46] and probably you'll remember that we were on council [00:22:50] when those nights in the profits were happening [00:22:53] on the hot summer nights, [00:22:54] and it rained, [00:22:55] and we did the dams, [00:22:57] but we had already incurred costs, [00:23:01] and charged with that. [00:23:08] Anyway, that's my point. [00:23:14] I'm not sure whether the program is still getting funded anymore. [00:23:18] I'm not sure. [00:23:24] We might have to go to the actual law [00:23:26] and see if we can get funding for that. [00:23:31] Funding is there. [00:23:42] We'll probably try to come. [00:23:44] Yeah. [00:23:54] Well, that'd be great. [00:23:55] I think we're working on it. [00:23:57] If we can come out of there, [00:23:58] that's great. [00:24:06] Marketing is another thing. [00:24:07] I've had a lot of people who don't agree with them, [00:24:11] but there's lawyers, [00:24:12] there's Dr. Smith, [00:24:13] there are people who have done it already. [00:24:20] Oh, well, we might have to go to the law. [00:24:25] You're right. [00:24:32] Yeah. [00:24:33] I think we're going to have to go to the law. [00:24:45] Good. [00:24:46] Thank you. [00:24:47] Thank you. [00:24:48] Thank you. [00:24:49] Thank you. [00:24:50] Thank you. [00:24:51] Thank you. [00:24:53] Thank you. [00:24:55] No, it's fine. [00:25:18] I'm sorry, could we consider putting some revenue items [00:25:21] and looking at how we might do that in a different way? [00:25:24] They could come off of it. [00:25:42] Look, this is charging. [00:25:45] This is saying I'm charging. [00:25:47] So I'm saying stop charging, and start helping them develop it, [00:25:51] and let them share the profits. [00:25:54] After the fly-out, people are going to say, [00:25:57] I have to do this, I have to do this, I have to do this, [00:26:00] I have to do this, I have to do this, I have to do this, [00:26:02] and now I'm getting ahead of you. [00:26:04] So I'm getting ahead of you. [00:26:10] If we're a partner, if we're sponsoring, [00:26:13] it could be a natural percentage, [00:26:15] because we've got a lot of gold, [00:26:17] and we've got a lot of money, [00:26:19] then we don't get it, [00:26:21] and then we decide whether we go with them the next year, [00:26:23] and start charging. [00:26:25] We're pretending we can't charge, [00:26:27] but I think we can charge. [00:26:29] Yes. [00:26:31] Because I don't know, [00:26:33] if you look, [00:26:35] if you charge, [00:26:37] there is so much [00:26:39] money, [00:26:41] revenue, [00:26:43] revenue is gone. [00:26:45] The money is gone. [00:26:47] Why would I want to charge? [00:26:49] The idea is that [00:26:51] the money is gone. [00:26:53] So you have to [00:26:55] charge. [00:26:57] So you have to [00:26:59] charge. [00:27:01] So you have to [00:27:03] charge. [00:27:05] You charge, you charge. [00:27:07] You charge, you charge. [00:27:09] Those should be called side-rate. [00:27:11] I'm not asking them that. [00:27:13] I'm talking about their support service. [00:27:17] We incur that, [00:27:19] whether they pay it or they don't pay it. [00:27:21] My point is, [00:27:23] there's a law that says, [00:27:25] we don't charge. [00:27:27] Well, you incur it when you have the [00:27:29] free company, you incur it when you have [00:27:31] the top-up with that [00:27:33] golf cart. [00:27:35] So my point is, if these are our signatures, [00:27:37] and this is our signature, [00:27:39] well, let's support them. [00:27:41] And to the point, [00:27:43] why are we putting [00:27:45] that hardship on them in case they lose it? [00:27:47] In case it rains. [00:27:49] Why don't we say, hey, if it rains, [00:27:51] we want to look at your books, [00:27:53] because we're your partner. [00:27:55] And if it's failing, we don't [00:27:57] want to change the way we're doing it. [00:28:01] Thank you. [00:28:03] That's what I was asking. [00:28:09] No, I'm just [00:28:11] feeling out those [00:28:13] more bigger things, because that's [00:28:15] the one thing we're getting to. [00:28:21] I see you as [00:28:23] a city [00:28:25] cop. [00:28:27] Right. [00:28:29] I see you [00:28:31] as a city [00:28:33] cop. [00:28:35] Right. [00:28:37] Right. [00:28:41] Right. [00:28:43] Right. [00:28:53] Right. [00:28:55] Right. [00:28:57] Right. [00:29:11] Right. [00:29:15] Right. [00:29:21] Right. [00:29:23] Right. [00:29:47] Right. [00:29:49] Right. [00:29:53] Right. [00:29:57] Right. [00:30:00] So, the 4th of July will be our event. I would guess we will be partnering with the Recreation and Recreation Department and others later on. [00:30:07] Maybe you've got a point, sir, that's all I'm going to say. You're right, it's another focus for us. [00:30:13] But, um, I think that it's a great thing. It's a pretty good project. [00:30:19] We've raised a lot of money in addition to the entire, uh, to the city. [00:30:23] So, I think it's a good thing for us. [00:30:26] Just as a forethought, all those other events, I'd like to go through, uh, [00:30:30] and talk to you about what's happening and what's going on. [00:30:34] So, thank you again. Thank you very much. [00:30:37] Thank you. I appreciate your time. [00:30:40] Moving on to the next budget, we'll, um, note that in terms of the operating expenses, [00:30:58] there is, obviously, an adjustment in salary over last year, [00:31:07] and then the resulting benefits associated with the position in operating. [00:31:16] There is a reduction of professional services from $48,000 down to $25,000. [00:31:25] And the only other change in operating is a $500 increase from $2,000 to $2,500, [00:31:36] and that's about the same as it was in the 20-23 position. [00:31:46] So, that's an important aspect of the proposed budget. [00:31:54] Then, I am going to move on to the next budget, and my role is to talk about that budget. [00:32:05] Thank you so much for having me, and I'll go ahead and speak up. [00:32:08] So, it's my, uh, first introduction to the proposed budget, [00:32:12] and to speak for the sake of the upcoming fiscal year. [00:32:15] Um, there were, um, uh, costs that were included in the proposed operating costs. [00:32:22] Um, we're expecting to see some reductions. [00:32:26] Um, the cost is typically not as high as we thought, [00:32:30] so I'm not going to go into that right now. [00:32:33] You'll see that under the budget, there is a stimulus. [00:32:37] There's a new item in the budget, which is the $2,200. [00:32:41] This is for the extension for micro-energy source. [00:32:45] What we're going to do is we're going to do all of the stimulus, [00:32:49] all of the stimulus that we've been talking about. [00:32:52] Um, you can have data on the stimulus, [00:32:56] the stimulus is going to be $2,200. [00:32:59] So, I'm not going to go into that right now. [00:33:01] I'm just going to talk about the stimulus, [00:33:03] the stimulus is going to be $2,200. [00:33:06] So, I'm not going to go into that right now. [00:33:10] Um, next is looking at the cost reduction. [00:33:14] That's going to be the public service budget. [00:33:17] Um, we've moved now. [00:33:19] We won't be any more. [00:33:20] We're not going to be any more. [00:33:22] We're not going to be any more. [00:33:24] Um, the next one I'd like to highlight is the $5,000. [00:33:28] That's going to be $5,000. [00:34:00] Yes. [00:34:11] Um, we just did not, um, [00:34:14] last year we did something else. [00:34:30] Okay. [00:35:30] Okay. [00:35:31] Okay. [00:35:32] Okay. [00:35:33] Okay. [00:35:35] Okay. [00:35:36] Okay. [00:35:37] Okay. [00:35:38] Okay. [00:35:39] Ready. [00:35:40] Okay. [00:35:41] Okay. [00:35:42] Ready. [00:35:43] Okay. [00:35:44] Okay. [00:35:45] Okay. [00:35:46] Okay. [00:35:47] We're live now. [00:35:53] We're live now. [00:36:21] We're live now. [00:36:47] We're live now. [00:37:08] We're live now. [00:37:34] We're live now. [00:37:55] We're live now. [00:38:21] We're live now. [00:38:47] We're live now. [00:39:08] We're live now. [00:39:32] We're live now. [00:39:58] We're live now. [00:40:19] We're live now. [00:40:38] We're live now. [00:40:57] We're live now. [00:41:21] We're live now. [00:41:42] We're live now. [00:42:03] We're live now. [00:42:22] We're live now. [00:42:41] We're live now. [00:43:05] We're live now. [00:43:24] We're live now. [00:43:43] We're live now. [00:44:02] We're live now. [00:44:21] We're live now. [00:44:40] We're live now. [00:45:00] more scanning services, and there's been a pretty significant uptick with that, and the reduction of paper. [00:45:14] Printing and binding, a small crease of $1,750. [00:45:20] We're making use of our marketing and outreach specialists to create more of those materials in the house, [00:45:27] such as bookmarks and business cards and flyers and brochures, instead of outsourcing them elsewhere. [00:45:38] And our new NFD introduces some cost-saving efficiencies by eliminating some of our expensive corner parts of business. [00:45:48] That's our Conex machine that the staff use upstairs in the admin office. [00:45:53] Software licensing, there's been a small increase in that. [00:45:59] That's line item 45-225, and that's just a cost increase by our ILS service, which is Apollo, Envisionics, and our new scan cost. [00:46:13] There was nothing to be done to help with that, keep that cost down. [00:46:18] That was just the cost of doing business. [00:46:23] I'll jump to computer supplies, 45-243, a small decrease in that, and that's probably because of our room-to-Zoom grant. [00:46:36] We received that significant grant this year to add AV equipment into our community rooms, [00:46:46] and so that new equipment is wonderful, state-of-the-art, it's brand new, [00:46:52] and we're eliminating the need to replace and update so much every year to fix it. [00:47:00] So we're going to see a decrease in that. [00:47:04] Library supplies, a small decrease of $1,000. [00:47:10] We need less displays at this point because we purchased them last fiscal year at the conclusion of the renovation, [00:47:18] so we now have those and we're making good use of them. [00:47:22] Miscellaneous program costs for grants, there's been a decrease in that, [00:47:28] and I wanted to point that out because last year we received an English for Families grant, which was $6,000, [00:47:37] and that's why there is quite a significant decrease in that. [00:47:43] We did not apply for it this year because they didn't offer it this past fiscal year. [00:47:49] So you'll see a decrease in that. [00:47:53] Miscellaneous program costs, there is a $5,000 increase, [00:47:58] and that's because our programming has been going like a buster. [00:48:03] We're really proud of it and glad to offer some additional unique programming that pertains to our communities and trusts. [00:48:13] So we're excited to be able to offer some additional programming coming up in the new year. [00:48:19] And I think that concludes my presentation of the library budget, and I'm here to answer any of your questions. [00:48:49] Thank you. [00:49:19] We have a space for 17, if I'm not mistaken, but several of those have been non-filled this year. [00:49:42] I think it's closer to 15. [00:49:47] I'm trying to see if I know where it is. [00:50:05] Oh, I don't have it. [00:50:17] Two full-time people. One will be a grant writer, and that will be a new position. [00:50:25] The other full-time position will actually combine two positions. [00:50:35] One that is currently .73 FTEs, and another that is also .73. [00:50:47] So it will combine two existing positions. [00:51:05] Thank you. [00:51:15] That's .73. [00:51:17] Thank you. [00:51:47] Thank you. [00:52:17] Thank you. [00:52:47] Tension and binding. [00:52:50] Cost of 4,700. [00:52:57] Right, the decrease. [00:53:17] So I'm not trying to give you $1,000, but I really wanted to bring up the question about the grant. [00:53:24] When we have our development and marketing person in that position, [00:53:31] whether or not there's those types of calendars or different dates in the library, [00:53:40] or calendars, or overall marketing and branding efforts that we do, [00:53:46] is it possible that we could do a sort of a team consolidated effort with them, too? [00:53:55] I'd love to think that we could. [00:54:00] Just that it would seem like it would pass. [00:54:05] It would be good after a couple of months. [00:54:08] We'd have to talk a little bit about how we do it and where those people come from. [00:54:12] I'm sure there's a group of people in the marketing that would be able to do that. [00:54:25] Maybe a specific brand that you know. [00:54:33] It's a different kind of marketing, too, though. [00:54:37] It's not like recruiting businesses as well. [00:54:48] It seems like with the staffing of the library that you have, [00:54:51] now that you can do it, you can increase your own by $5,000. [00:54:57] All I hear is people bragging about it. [00:55:10] Andy's got a really nice job for me. [00:55:13] We used to get calendars together and send them to each other. [00:55:22] If you put it together really well, it will get to people's universities rabbit hoops, [00:55:26] even long distance. [00:55:30] I don't know anybody that can do it other than me, [00:55:34] but I can probably say 5 minutes a week. [00:55:43] Finally, I'll take a couple of people from my coaching tent. [00:55:48] Thank you. [00:55:53] I think we did have Parks and Recreation, [00:55:56] but we ended up on May. [00:55:59] But there were a lot of reasons why we didn't finish on May. [00:56:03] We kind of didn't get to proceed to work in the library. [00:56:09] Although, the position really, [00:56:14] we'll need to integrate with every department [00:56:18] where a grant will emanate from, [00:56:22] because they won't have all of the knowledge that they need to put together a grant. [00:56:28] We certainly will have the resources, [00:56:30] the opinions that we can bring forth to the system. [00:56:36] I'm going to end with a few words. [00:56:46] I'm going to end with a few words. [00:56:52] And one of them is, [00:56:58] I'm going to end with a few words. [00:57:07] We'll be selective as to what we should do and how we spend our time. [00:57:21] Andy would never do that. [00:57:23] We will be assessing the likelihood of funding [00:57:27] as part of our decision as to whether or not to pursue opportunities. [00:57:37] Sure. [00:57:38] And one more thing about the library budget. [00:57:41] Andy jumped into recreation, [00:57:44] but he did notice an error in postage. [00:57:47] For the 23-24, [00:57:50] it should be $15,000. [00:57:54] Any questions? [00:57:56] Any questions? [00:58:56] This will be a new service. [00:59:00] This will be the first time that the city library has offered this service, [00:59:05] and it basically allows people to purchase a PCPT, [00:59:11] Passport County Public Transport, bus pass at the library. [00:59:17] We will offer it at the same cost that other agencies offer the bus pass, [00:59:23] and in return, the city will receive some revenue for doing that. [00:59:29] So our library, our staff get requests all the time, [00:59:34] I would like to buy a bus pass, or where can I get it? [00:59:38] And we've never been able to offer that previously. [00:59:43] So now we can offer the bus passes, [00:59:48] which will be a great service to the people that use them, [00:59:53] and will have some small revenue for the city. [01:00:00] The rest of it is a little bit like a joke. [01:00:05] That's the key, it's paying for itself. [01:00:07] Right. [01:00:08] Right, it's paying for itself. [01:00:10] Yeah. [01:00:11] You give it away, you know. [01:00:13] One way? [01:00:14] No. [01:00:30] Yes, we've made some real changes and reductions in some of those large pay items. [01:01:00] And that one, several big ticket items were our ILS system and our integrated library system. [01:01:12] And we updated that from a different one that was very cost prohibitive. [01:01:22] And the one that we now have in place includes an app which you can download to your phone for free. [01:01:31] Which is quite, it's a lot more user friendly and it saves money for the city. [01:01:39] Also, we ended, I believe, part of our lease for our computers, our public computers, public facing computers. [01:01:51] We were leasing to own and at the end of that lease agreement we just purchased them outright and fulfilled that lease agreement. [01:02:01] And now we've got them on a revolving schedule so that we replace the oldest computers, so many of them, per year from our computer supply line item instead of continuing to rent them. [01:02:21] Okay. [01:02:39] I would certainly hope so. [01:02:41] I would certainly hope so. [01:02:44] That's what we're expecting to get to. [01:02:48] We were told that we would expect about a third of the cost savings from our library. [01:02:55] We wouldn't be able to bank it. [01:02:57] We're not creating that much solar energy to be able to bank it or sell it back. [01:03:03] But it would help reduce the cost of everything. [01:03:07] So yes, that is it. [01:03:09] No. [01:03:15] But it is this because we've reduced part of the emissions of our 100,000 pounds. [01:03:23] Which is amazing. [01:03:39] Okay. [01:04:09] Okay. [01:04:10] Okay. [01:04:11] Okay. [01:04:12] Okay. [01:06:14] Okay. [01:06:15] Okay. [01:06:16] Okay. [01:06:17] Okay. [01:06:18] Okay. [01:06:19] Okay. [01:06:20] Okay. [01:06:21] Okay. [01:06:22] Okay. [01:06:23] Okay. [01:06:24] Okay. [01:06:25] Okay. [01:06:26] Okay. [01:06:27] Okay. [01:06:28] Okay. [01:06:29] Okay. [01:06:30] Okay. [01:06:31] Okay. [01:06:32] So, I'm going to present a quick overview and I will call out some increases and changes [01:06:38] that we have made in the last couple of weeks. [01:06:45] So, we had a strong heart in planning this proposed budget and we spent several different [01:07:00] weeks working on it. [01:07:07] So, I'm going to start with what you have in front of you as well as many, many questions [01:07:26] that you may have. [01:07:33] Okay. [01:07:34] So, I'm going to start with what you have in front of you as well as many, many questions. [01:07:55] Okay. [01:07:56] So, I'm going to start with what you have in front of you as well as many, many questions. [01:08:17] Okay. [01:08:18] So, I'm going to start with what you have in front of you as well as many, many questions. [01:08:46] Okay. [01:08:47] So, I'm going to start with what you have in front of you as well as many, many questions. [01:09:15] Okay. [01:09:16] So, I'm going to start with what you have in front of you as well as many, many questions. [01:09:44] Okay. [01:10:15] Okay. [01:10:16] So, I'm going to start with what you have in front of you as well as many, many questions. [01:10:43] Okay. [01:10:45] Okay. [01:10:46] So, I'm going to start with what you have in front of you as well as many, many questions. [01:11:13] Okay. [01:11:14] Okay. [01:11:15] So, I'm going to start with what you have in front of you as well as many, many questions. [01:11:41] Okay. [01:11:42] So, I'm going to start with what you have in front of you as well as many, many questions. [01:12:11] Okay. [01:12:12] So, I'm going to start with what you have in front of you as well as many, many questions. [01:12:38] Okay. [01:13:08] Okay. [01:13:11] So, I'm going to start with what you have in front of you as well as many, many questions. [01:13:37] Okay. [01:13:38] So, I'm going to start with what you have in front of you as well as many, many questions. [01:14:04] Okay. [01:14:07] So, I'm going to start with what you have in front of you as well as many, many questions. [01:14:36] Okay. [01:14:37] So, I'm going to start with what you have in front of you as well as many, many questions. [01:15:00] on this school, and different housing communities, [01:15:04] different organizations will come out [01:15:06] and give their presentation about specific things, [01:15:12] programs, events, resources that each of the departments offer. [01:15:17] It's really wonderful to have someone [01:15:19] who can speak very specifically and answer those questions [01:15:25] to those different organizations. [01:15:27] And just for example, with the library, [01:15:30] using the library as an example, all of their back-to-school [01:15:34] outreaches, I don't know if you're aware of this or not, [01:15:37] but they schedule them on the same day at the same time. [01:15:41] And so it's all hands-on deck to go out and try [01:15:45] and represent the city and the different departments [01:15:51] as best as possible. [01:15:53] So you almost need different people coordinating [01:15:58] and working together to get the entire message of the city [01:16:02] out, and especially of the different departments. [01:16:24] Whether it's just a team meeting regularly, [01:16:26] or whatever, but you just want to consolidate [01:16:29] the talent of the community. [01:16:38] And I would mention, too, with a new marketing [01:16:40] person at the Recreation and Arts Products Center, [01:16:43] she has been meeting regularly with a library staff [01:16:47] person, also sharing that position. [01:16:50] And they've been attending different outreaches. [01:16:55] They've attended two outreaches, and they've [01:16:58] used it as a training opportunity. [01:17:00] So one has shadowed the other, while the other [01:17:04] has provided some training. [01:17:05] So some of that is already happening, [01:17:07] and I think once we have the full-time marketing [01:17:10] person in place, that that will just continue to blossom [01:17:14] and continue happening moving forward. [01:17:21] With the operating supplies disaster, [01:17:24] there's a small increase there of $500. [01:17:28] The rec center is used as the EOC, [01:17:31] and so we're just trying to get prepared for any emergency [01:17:36] as fast as possible. [01:17:39] Operating supplies, the 45299, there's an increase of $4,000. [01:17:47] And I'll point that out because we [01:17:51] need some additional funding to replace the folding chairs [01:17:56] that the city uses for special city events, [01:18:00] like the groundbreaking at the fire station most recently. [01:18:05] There are some metal chairs that the city uses, [01:18:09] public works takes out for a special event, [01:18:13] and we just need to replace them. [01:18:17] Several of them have disappeared, but others, [01:18:21] they've just been used for years. [01:18:23] And so we need to add some additional ones [01:18:27] to help us with these big new events. [01:18:34] 45299, operating supplies and salons, [01:18:39] so that would be part of that request. [01:18:42] Another part of that request would [01:18:44] be for replacement tables for the Oak Room. [01:18:48] That's the room that rentals use, [01:18:52] and they're also using the pool. [01:18:55] And so people have been using it for birthday parties [01:18:59] and different types of parties and that type of thing. [01:19:03] So it's a wet-dry room, and that has [01:19:06] caused a little bit of additional wear [01:19:08] to the furniture, particularly in that room, [01:19:12] and the metal pieces, the casters, and those tables. [01:19:16] So we need to replace some of those. [01:19:22] And also, some of this funding would [01:19:26] be used to still purchase supplies [01:19:31] that are needed, such as some basic gym equipment, [01:19:37] not treadmills, not those kind of machines, [01:19:40] but smaller items that are used by the rent center. [01:19:53] And I will point out with the capital improvement program [01:20:01] that we've requested $12,000 to replace [01:20:06] the wall pads in the gym. [01:20:12] There's a lot of wear and tear on some of those wall pads, [01:20:16] so we're planning to replace the ones that need it the most [01:20:21] and get our gyms back up and looking stiff again. [01:20:29] We also have requested $20,000 in the fiscal year [01:20:38] for fitness equipment. [01:20:41] And so the cost of some of those larger items, [01:20:45] like the bikes and the treadmills, [01:20:48] have also increased. [01:20:50] And so that would provide their husband [01:20:53] an increase in that social purpose equipment. [01:21:00] We're budgeting right now to replace two per year. [01:21:06] They cost between $7,500 and $10,000 per item, [01:21:13] depending on what it is. [01:21:15] So we've set aside some funds to replace two [01:21:19] and funds elsewhere to be able to repair the items that we [01:21:26] need to extend their life. [01:22:26] Thank you. [01:22:56] Thank you. [01:23:27] Thank you. [01:23:30] Actually, we have in mind programming [01:23:33] and are probably not in agreement with your suggestion [01:23:38] either. [01:23:39] So I would be satisfied if you have us [01:23:43] at this board before HR for the two relocations. [01:24:26] Thank you. [01:24:27] Thank you. [01:24:57] Yeah. [01:25:11] We don't have regular problems, but I [01:25:14] understand what you're saying and we [01:25:17] need to have more opportunities for having [01:25:20] opportunities now that we have the [01:25:22] mining industry and the other thing [01:25:24] is that you have to pay 100 percent [01:25:26] of the price to be able to build on [01:25:30] your own land to be able to make [01:25:32] it work. [01:25:33] The other thing is the Iím looking [01:25:36] for is by tax that people do pay [01:25:38] you that risk-free partnership with [01:25:40] the industry that we work with is [01:25:42] available. [01:25:43] But in some places itís hard to get [01:25:44] that unfortunately across since [01:25:46] public property is so expensive that [01:25:48] to say the missing element here is [01:25:51] that we approve the basis of [01:25:54] paying that money for a dog park [01:25:56] over there is a mental jail. [01:25:58] If youíre going to have a dog park [01:26:00] that youíre going to find a way to [01:26:03] have to do it from a recreation [01:26:05] standpoint, training, running those [01:26:08] little things, if they do that I [01:26:10] canít imagine the money being [01:26:11] turned in without having some of [01:26:13] those activities like the dog park [01:26:16] The point is that thereís people [01:26:19] that are recreating and itís not a [01:26:22] place they go hide or to keep things [01:26:25] or whatever they throw out. [01:26:27] So I agree with you. [01:26:29] I think that the thing that Iíve been [01:26:32] asking for years is that thereís a [01:26:34] group that can do it. [01:26:36] If you get the county and show them [01:26:38] what you do. [01:26:44] You can library and recreation. [01:26:47] You know, Iíve been working in [01:26:48] big cities. [01:26:49] They donít have libraries and [01:26:51] recreation. [01:26:52] But if the county came out and [01:26:54] handled the whole teen teen [01:26:58] program with bowling and five [01:27:01] county employees doing exactly [01:27:03] what you say, getting out there [01:27:05] making things happen. [01:27:07] All we have to do is show [01:27:10] our membership, our usership and [01:27:13] put it on the map and say itís time [01:27:17] for you to join with us and allow [01:27:19] us to have a service area and you [01:27:23] to be an ancillary facility. [01:27:26] That would allow us to, the county [01:27:29] is promoting five dollar [01:27:31] memberships. [01:27:32] You can still pay when you go to [01:27:34] it, you know, but we should be [01:27:36] looking at the model in order to [01:27:38] be able to get that money. [01:27:39] If we got the money that weíre [01:27:41] paying out to the county for [01:27:42] recreation services and the money [01:27:44] that the people who are coming to [01:27:46] our facility are paying for [01:27:48] recreation services, we would be [01:27:50] in a great place. [01:27:53] I think we should start doing [01:27:55] it. [01:27:56] Because we are charging them and [01:27:57] theyíre getting complaints, this [01:27:59] is our chance to talk about our [01:28:01] fees. [01:28:02] We donít charge the fee at the [01:28:03] library. [01:28:04] If we drop the fee at the rec center [01:28:06] to everybody, we would get twice [01:28:09] as much money coming in if we [01:28:11] could get the county to start [01:28:13] giving us back the recreation [01:28:14] money. [01:28:15] Because weíre providing that [01:28:17] service and the Florida law says [01:28:19] that if youíre both well able to [01:28:21] do it, then you should do it. [01:28:23] I donít think they would disagree. [01:28:25] Weíre all on good terms with them [01:28:27] all. [01:28:28] Weíre the only city that really [01:28:29] carries this law. [01:28:31] I mean, nobody else is doing it [01:28:34] except us. [01:29:05] More people in the city are [01:29:09] enjoying the city as part of our [01:29:11] economic strategy. [01:29:13] We have to take care of the [01:29:15] community. [01:29:16] We probably need to have a [01:29:18] happier recreation budget than [01:29:20] we have in the city. [01:29:22] We have A, B, C, 19, 20, 4, [01:29:26] lots of different things. [01:29:28] So we have a bunch of years to [01:29:30] start even. [01:29:32] We also got what I would like to [01:29:35] say is the West Pasco big alumni [01:29:41] event, one of our three events [01:29:44] in the market. [01:29:46] Because the literary point, I [01:29:50] play, coach literary with 50 [01:29:53] different people. [01:29:55] Itís on the team, West Pasco [01:29:57] Literary Incorporates five [01:30:00] Elementary, three different high schools, [01:30:04] there's more people from River Ridge [01:30:07] than virtual high schools [01:30:11] that are at the center of our city. [01:30:14] So if we had a West Pasco [01:30:17] for the alumni appreciation like that, [01:30:21] we could probably draw a lot of people [01:30:23] into the town because [01:30:25] people come here just once a year [01:30:28] to see their old friends. [01:30:30] Yeah, I mean, I think that's another possible event [01:30:33] that people are looking for. [01:30:36] Like the Shadows, perhaps, [01:30:38] you know, people are looking for [01:30:40] incredible, big nagging to come place [01:30:43] of their old friends. [01:30:59] So, let's make that comment [01:31:03] about the process of the Shadows. [01:31:05] I mean, I think that's a really good point. [01:31:07] I think that's a really good point. [01:31:09] We've been talking about it for a while now. [01:31:11] We've been talking about it for a while now. [01:31:13] It's our first time. [01:31:15] We're looking at the time of year [01:31:17] and the time of year. [01:31:19] And I think that's a good point. [01:31:21] I think that's a good point. [01:31:23] If it's a hundred years, [01:31:55] that's another reason we don't touch much. [01:31:57] Yeah. [01:32:00] Good point. [01:32:01] That's a good point. [01:32:03] And I think that one's always good, right? [01:32:05] Okay. [01:32:06] I think it's a good point. [01:32:09] I think it's a good point. [01:32:11] Yeah. [01:32:13] Because you remind me of everything. [01:32:15] You can get them all new outfits [01:32:17] and make them all good outfits [01:32:19] and look good. [01:32:22] Okay. [01:32:23] Let's move on to a bottle. [01:32:26] Anything I mentioned? [01:32:28] All right. [01:32:29] Let me go again. [01:32:30] Okay. [01:32:31] Third in a row. [01:32:32] Third in a row. [01:32:33] That's been our release. [01:32:34] This operating budget is going to be 2.3% reduction [01:32:40] in budget requests for fiscal year 2024. [01:32:45] And I'll start [01:32:49] with personnel. [01:32:51] You'll see an increase there due to salary increase [01:32:54] for some lifeguards and some benefit costs [01:32:57] that occurred this year with insurance and FRS. [01:33:05] We wanted to offer some competitive salaries [01:33:09] in order to maintain some mandatory staffing levels, [01:33:14] especially for the aquatics and the pool environment [01:33:18] where safety is essential. [01:33:21] So you'll see some increases in those areas [01:33:25] as well as with contractual services [01:33:30] and for operating 43499 contractual services. [01:33:38] Actually, that's a decrease. [01:33:40] Sorry. [01:33:41] A decrease because with the full staff of aquatics, [01:33:47] personnel, we are able to handle [01:33:52] some more of the basic contractual services [01:33:56] such as some basic homesteading types of deals. [01:34:01] Instead of hiring a homesteading team, [01:34:04] some of the staff can do that [01:34:06] as their on-right people, the lifeguarding staff. [01:34:10] Also, some certifications such as WSI [01:34:14] for water safety instruction have been reduced [01:34:19] because we have staff on hand [01:34:21] that can offer those types of certifications. [01:34:26] 44611 for maintenance, building, and grounds, [01:34:34] there is a decrease of $8,000. [01:34:43] So we have requested additional capital funding [01:34:49] for replacing some larger ticket items [01:34:53] such as a feeder and a pump for the lap pool. [01:34:59] And if those capital items are approved, [01:35:03] and we sincerely hope that they are, [01:35:07] then that will eliminate the need [01:35:09] for the constant repair of property [01:35:13] that we have on-site, which is quite expensive [01:35:16] and we cannot. [01:35:18] So the pumps that we have are at the end of their lives, [01:35:23] absolutely, and they need to be replaced [01:35:26] to continue to be the most needed for people to use. [01:35:33] So we do expect a decrease in that line item. [01:35:40] Also, 44621 for maintenance equipment, [01:35:47] there is a slight decrease of $2,000. [01:35:53] Again, we're expecting less need of repair [01:35:59] for things like our vacuum and hoses and a smaller pump. [01:36:05] And also, the resurfacing project is about to get underway [01:36:13] at the end of this month, in the beginning of August. [01:36:17] So our expectation is that that will reduce some of the need [01:36:22] for some of those repair costs. [01:36:28] Computer supplies, 45243, there is an increase there of $3,800. [01:36:36] We're hoping to replace some outdated staff computers. [01:36:41] The aquatics office desperately needs some PC upgrades [01:36:47] and replacement of the speakers that they currently have [01:36:52] for use in that live gardening office. [01:36:57] 45234, which is swim and rec accessories, [01:37:06] we wanted to add $1,000 to this line item [01:37:13] for the addition of basically a pro shop. [01:37:19] Our aquatics manager says that there have been many requests [01:37:25] for rotten towels and goggles and masks and those types of items. [01:37:30] And he is thinking that the city will have a little bit of revenue [01:37:36] based on that. [01:37:38] Plus, it will be a nice service to offer to the people [01:37:44] that can't afford masks and goggles and that type of thing. [01:37:50] Next, for recreation supplies, 45245, there's an increase of $3,000. [01:37:59] We'd like to purchase some new main lines. [01:38:02] The ones that we currently have are starting to crack [01:38:05] and might disintegrate a little bit more. [01:38:09] We're expecting that very soon. [01:38:13] We'd like to replace those and purchase a few pool equipment items [01:38:21] like backstroke flags for the lap pool. [01:38:25] That's an example of one of the things that we'd like to purchase [01:38:28] with some of those increases. [01:38:31] There's a reduction in signs and sign materials. [01:38:35] We're hoping to use this year's budget [01:38:39] to complete some of our larger requests in that, [01:38:43] which will minimize the amount that we need for next fiscal year. [01:38:47] Also, 45411, dues and memberships, there's an increase of $1,300. [01:38:55] These are for professional certifications required for staff. [01:39:01] This will allow them to offer more swimming lessons [01:39:08] and private lessons, as well as to add some certifications [01:39:14] for staff members related to more specialized types of certifications [01:39:20] related to the classroom. [01:39:27] Next, for the CIP. [01:39:33] What you see before you is a commercial pool heater replacement for the lap pool. [01:39:39] We have two currently that are inoperable, [01:39:43] and we need to get those replaced and working again. [01:39:49] The goal would be to have those working by the beginning of November [01:39:56] so that members can use the lap pool without any interruption [01:40:03] when the water starts to get full. [01:40:06] Also, a replacement of an aquatic pump. [01:40:10] We would like to do that on an annual basis. [01:40:15] These are the pumps that keep the water flowing and moving [01:40:20] and keep them filtered. [01:40:22] That will conclude the presentation, and I'll try my best to answer any questions. [01:40:52] Moving on back to the project, we will get back to you. [01:41:22] Okay. [01:41:52] Thank you. [01:42:23] Thank you. [01:42:25] Thank you. [01:42:36] We're still thinking about swimming pool heaters. [01:42:40] We're interested in just one, and we have to involve a good number of staff [01:42:50] in the other facilities, so much so that we really have to ask for a new operator. [01:42:57] We made a mid-year adjustment in that. [01:43:04] We also instituted a program which was centered on retention of those employees, [01:43:17] and we have a program now where if they stay in the facility through a full season, [01:43:24] that will mean that they stay in the facility through the season [01:43:27] for about the second half of the season based on the number of hours that they work. [01:43:33] That has worked out very well for us. [01:43:36] We don't pay more than some of our competition public pool teams, [01:43:42] so we can keep them and have them be a different kind of opportunity [01:43:47] to retain their employees and hours that they need to work. [01:43:52] Okay. [01:44:23] We added some additional water safety instruction classes this year. [01:44:29] The Aquatics Manager, Billy, is certified to teach some of those basic lifeguarding skills, [01:44:37] and he taught two classes this spring to try to create almost a feeding type of program, [01:44:48] right? [01:44:54] It does. [01:44:55] It does. [01:44:56] The city charges $150 for... [01:45:00] each individual who takes the class. [01:45:03] And so the student manager has created a type of program [01:45:10] so that if someone takes the class and receives basic certification [01:45:16] like Bard School certification and gets hired, [01:45:21] they can then apply for the job. [01:45:24] And so the student manager has created a program [01:45:29] so that if someone takes the class and receives basic certification [01:45:34] like Bard School certification and gets hired, [01:45:39] they can then apply for the job. [01:45:42] And so the student manager has created a program [01:45:46] so that if someone takes the class and receives basic certification [01:45:52] like Bard School certification and gets hired, [01:45:57] they can then apply for the job. [01:46:00] And so the student manager has created a program [01:46:05] so that if someone takes the class and receives basic certification [01:46:11] And I think that's part of our goal. [01:46:16] And you see that reflected in the revenue. [01:46:19] And I'm speaking with Kevin behind me here. [01:46:23] He's on board to encouraging more swim lessons [01:46:27] that the city staff offer as a part of the services. 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