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   Approval of the June 21, 2016 CRA Minutes

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   The CRA Board approved the minutes from the June 21, 2016 CRA meeting.

   • motion:Approve the June 21, 2016 CRA meeting minutes. (passed)

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   [00:00:15] Next item on the agenda is the approval of the June 21 [00:00:18] CRA meeting minutes. [00:00:20] Move for approval. [00:00:21] Move the motion. [00:00:22] Second. [00:00:22] Second. [00:00:24] Any discussion? [00:00:25] No. [00:00:26] All those in favor, please signify by saying aye. [00:00:28] Aye. [00:00:28] Aye. [00:00:29] Opposed, the like sign. [00:00:30] Motion passes.

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   FY17 Proposed Budget

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   CRA Director Iazzoni presented the FY17 proposed CRA budget totaling approximately $2.6 million in revenue, including continued Business Incentive Grant Program funding, a new Building Expansion/Renovation Program, $950,000 for Hacienda Hotel improvements, CRA plan update, and residential incentives. Council members discussed boosting residential incentive funding and shifting strategic priorities; the item appears to have been a presentation/discussion rather than a final vote in this excerpt.

   📍Bank Street entrance📍Central Avenue📍Orange Lake property📍River Road Church property🏢Applicant Insight🏢Atelier🏢Friends of the Hacienda🏢HCA🏢PDC🏢UF Bureau of Historic Resources🏢Village Pub🏢Volk-Zimmerman🏢West Pasco Chamber of Commerce👤Bert Bender👤Carmen👤Cronin👤Danny Gatos👤Elaine👤Iazzoni👤KC👤Laura Volk👤Manns👤Stephanie Farrell👤Wells#2012 Redevelopment Plan#Building Expansion Renovation Program#Business Incentive Grant Program#CRA Plan Update#FY17 Proposed CRA Budget#Hacienda Hotel RFP#Highway 19 business mix initiative#Main Street Landing Development Agreement#Marine District / Employment District#Residential Incentive Program#Rivergate Land Development#SmartSpark#Special Category Grant ($750,000)

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   [00:00:31] Next is the fiscal year 17 proposed budget. [00:00:34] Ms. Manns? [00:00:36] Mr. Iazzoni, if you could present the budget. [00:00:39] Thank you very much, City Manager Mann, [00:00:41] and thank you very much, Councilor Mayer. [00:00:47] The objective of the Community Redevelopment Agency [00:00:49] is to implement the Community Redevelopment [00:00:51] Plan, which charts a course for community redevelopment [00:00:54] and is guided by community input and vision. [00:00:58] The accomplishments for fiscal year 2016 [00:01:02] were basically the following. [00:01:04] An improved communication between redevelopment [00:01:06] stakeholders has resulted in the forward progress [00:01:09] of several development projects. [00:01:12] I highlight the areas that in the 2012 redevelopment plan, [00:01:16] it was noted specifically that there [00:01:18] needed to be strong communication between the city [00:01:21] and various city stakeholders. [00:01:22] And we very much believe, a classic example [00:01:27] is three years ago, we were very unfamiliar with what [00:01:31] was happening down in the Marine District [00:01:33] in terms of HCA's intentions with what [00:01:36] to do with that property. [00:01:37] And on several occasions and at a moment's notice, [00:01:41] HCA entertains a discussion with us all the time. [00:01:43] We have a really strong relationship with them now. [00:01:46] And they're very much an open door policy with them. [00:01:49] And this is an example where the communication [00:01:51] has been exceptionally strong. [00:01:53] West Pasco Chamber of Commerce is another example. [00:01:55] Just simply look at their Chamber of Commerce brochure. [00:01:58] And so we've made great strides with this CRA [00:02:01] to really begin to engage basically the investment [00:02:05] capital that is in the community and other organizations. [00:02:08] Another good example is Friends of the Hacienda. [00:02:10] We have an active role with them also. [00:02:14] The other accomplishment is we've implemented [00:02:18] the Business Incentive Grant Program [00:02:20] that has yielded tangible economic development results. [00:02:23] Again, as stated before, the ratio is for every dollar [00:02:26] invested, we get three out of that. [00:02:29] We've secured the Main Street Landing Development Agreement [00:02:32] and we've completed the $1.1 million work [00:02:34] to the Hacienda Hotel. [00:02:36] What we're looking at in terms of fiscal year 2017 [00:02:39] initiatives, and I have about four bullet points, [00:02:44] but I want to kind of step ahead of that and say, [00:02:46] well, in terms of an overarching theme, [00:02:49] one of the things that you're going to be looking at [00:02:50] in the budget in a few moments here is that [00:02:55] we want to continue the Business Incentive Grant Program [00:02:58] that we currently have with a much more strongest focus [00:03:02] on business facade, and I think one of the things [00:03:06] that brings out quite a bit is shade structures. [00:03:09] So we want to continue that program [00:03:11] into the next fiscal year, and we want to expand [00:03:14] that program to do what's called [00:03:16] the Building Expansion Renovation Program, [00:03:19] and in conversation with development, [00:03:22] they have several challenges with larger buildings [00:03:25] in town that really need to come up to compliance [00:03:29] and may need significant work, and we're looking [00:03:32] specifically at the town of Davie, Florida, [00:03:35] in terms of their program, where they put a much larger [00:03:38] dollar amount into a specific commercial property, [00:03:42] and again, the focus, again, would be maybe [00:03:44] to take something that's been out of plan [00:03:47] for a very long time, but we're looking for that same ratio [00:03:50] for every dollar invested, the capital investment [00:03:53] would be about $3 on the developer's side, [00:03:58] and we might even possibly look at an RFP process [00:04:01] for those funds, but we're looking at a much larger bucket [00:04:05] to do a little bit more heavy lifting, [00:04:06] and again, we're only looking at the execution [00:04:09] of one or two of those projects throughout that year. [00:04:12] We're also going to be, as has been pointed out, [00:04:19] it's a residential development program, [00:04:20] I think Mr. Wells kind of stated it well today, [00:04:24] and the fact that we need to begin to invest [00:04:26] in the residential properties also, [00:04:28] to begin to build the base in the athelorum, [00:04:30] so that is duly noted, and we'll be moving forward [00:04:35] with that in the fiscal year. [00:04:37] Another major thing that's going to happen [00:04:39] is we'll be updating the CRA plan. [00:04:43] And that will involve the process with, again, [00:04:46] that should be updated every five years, [00:04:47] so this is the fifth year to do that. [00:04:51] Highway 19, we're going to be looking at, [00:04:53] and one of the things that the city manager [00:04:55] directed me to do for that year is to begin [00:04:57] to figure a way of improving the business mix [00:05:00] on Highway 19. [00:05:02] And then, again, we are going to be doing [00:05:04] economic development marketing, and specifically, [00:05:07] what seems to be coming out of strategic plan initiatives [00:05:09] is this marketing packet. [00:05:12] In terms of letting people know what we've done [00:05:16] over the past several years, [00:05:18] and the great opportunities that exist in this city. [00:05:21] Specific to the Marine District, [00:05:23] obviously we're going to be pursuing the SFO and the VA. [00:05:27] And we're also looking at supporting further expansion [00:05:31] of the HCA property. [00:05:33] The VA facility will only be taking up 12 acres [00:05:36] of HCA's 24 acres, and as we already know, [00:05:39] they've already announced expansion of the rehab center. [00:05:43] And this is my own professional opinion, [00:05:44] having been involved in healthcare for many years, [00:05:47] is I generally believe that, as you can see [00:05:50] what's happening in North Bay, [00:05:52] that that property, what I call is a capture zone, [00:05:57] is I feel fairly comfortable over a period [00:06:00] of several years, that will be further developed [00:06:02] because it prevents a great opportunity [00:06:05] for the healthcare sector, [00:06:06] because it is a large assembly of land, [00:06:09] approximately 28 acres with infrastructure. [00:06:13] And I think the city has demonstrated clearly [00:06:15] with its capacity to communicate with HCA [00:06:18] and the community that we provide a great opportunity [00:06:21] for anybody in the healthcare sector [00:06:23] that wants to come to this town. [00:06:25] I think we've demonstrated clearly the capacity [00:06:27] to welcome them and to welcome their capital investments. [00:06:30] And also the Marine District, [00:06:32] I actually call that the employment district. [00:06:35] I think last year I reported to you about a firm [00:06:37] that we worked with that had purchased [00:06:39] the old Applicant Insight building, [00:06:41] and they have purchased that, they have been improving it, [00:06:43] and they've hired over 100 new employees [00:06:46] and are consolidating five other locations to there. [00:06:51] And so that's two large employers that we have down there [00:06:53] if we include Applicant Insight. [00:06:57] The West Main, East Wayne, USI 19, [00:07:00] the goal is to look at that whole connectivity [00:07:02] as one street. [00:07:05] And one of the things that we have active discussion in on [00:07:07] is what we call the Rivergate Land Development. [00:07:12] And we'll continue to have those discussions. [00:07:14] We are having a discussion with the developer right now [00:07:16] in regard to that. [00:07:17] But again, I think there's a way to go on these projects. [00:07:20] There is some strong interest [00:07:21] in the River Road Church property, [00:07:22] and as indicated before, we're gonna be issuing an RFP [00:07:25] on that. [00:07:27] Main Street Programs. [00:07:29] One of the great things that happened last year [00:07:31] is that we've been actively engaging that organization [00:07:34] and evolving it with the direction of KC and the board. [00:07:39] And again, the goal with the Main Street Program [00:07:41] is to really make that connectivity to drive, [00:07:44] you know, I'm trying to figure a way of taking [00:07:46] the success of the park and driving all those wallets [00:07:49] into the local businesses. [00:07:54] And on the Hacienda, we're gonna be going out [00:07:57] an RFP prior to September 1st. [00:08:01] And one of the nice things about that is that, [00:08:05] you know, as opposed to the prior RFP [00:08:07] that occurred three years ago when I first came here, [00:08:10] quite a bit, we know a lot more about this building. [00:08:14] We know it's in much greater shape. [00:08:17] We have a really great architectural team. [00:08:19] And I think that the carrot we're dangling this time, [00:08:22] if we're successful on these two additional, [00:08:24] is a $2 million investment in this property. [00:08:26] So when we issue that RFP, [00:08:29] I think that, and we're gonna be marketing [00:08:31] that very aggressively because we have [00:08:33] very strong relationships with Stephanie Farrell, [00:08:37] Atelier, UF, Bureau of Historic Resources. [00:08:43] So I'm really excited about issuing this RFP [00:08:45] in the Hacienda because we just know a whole lot more [00:08:49] about this building that we've known before. [00:08:52] And I think that's a tremendous advantage to the city. [00:08:55] And I've always said in the Hacienda RFP originally [00:08:59] that the reason why we wanted to continue to pursue this, [00:09:01] unlike, you know, Elaine talks about the football star [00:09:04] that says, you know, you keep trying, you keep trying, [00:09:07] you keep trying until you win. [00:09:08] And this property is very much like that. [00:09:12] And you pick yourself up, you dust yourself off, [00:09:14] and you pursue forward. [00:09:15] But we now have templates from which to work with. [00:09:18] And I think the original Hacienda development agreement [00:09:20] was a really great opportunity for us to identify [00:09:24] what we want, what we don't want, [00:09:26] and what the language in the development agreement [00:09:28] should consist of. [00:09:29] And I've always felt that, you know, [00:09:31] if we weren't successful on that, [00:09:32] we have that to kind of fall back on. [00:09:34] I've always felt that was very important. [00:09:38] We're, in this budget, we're bringing $100,000 [00:09:41] to do the balcony, the two balconies are there. [00:09:45] We actually have bids on most of the stuff [00:09:46] and all the architectural engineering work is done. [00:09:50] And to do their French door on the Bank Street entrance [00:09:53] and the second floor. [00:09:55] The small matching granite will actually cover [00:09:57] the historic stairway, a structural beam in the dining room [00:10:00] and then exterior repairs such as a patio. [00:10:04] And then the $750,000 special category grant [00:10:08] will be specifically windows and doors. [00:10:10] And again, we have just about all the architectural work [00:10:13] and estimates done on that. [00:10:15] The windows actually came back at $350,000 as fixed windows. [00:10:19] The reason why you had such a high price last time [00:10:23] was because there were flexible windows. [00:10:25] And after talking to some developers, [00:10:27] they say you don't want to do flexible windows [00:10:29] near saltwater because apparently it erodes the windows. [00:10:33] And so that debate will continue. [00:10:38] But I'm real happy with the quotes. [00:10:39] And we've asked them to kind of look forward [00:10:41] in terms of what those prices would be. [00:10:44] Okay, let's kind of get into the numbers here. [00:10:49] On the revenue side, do you want me to take this? [00:10:53] On the revenue side, your county operating millage [00:10:58] will come in at $719,000. [00:11:04] And that's actually going to, inside the CRA, [00:11:06] that's going to represent approximately [00:11:08] about a 9.5% increase over the previous year. [00:11:13] Historic preservation grant revenues, $550,000. [00:11:18] Business incubator rent, $36,000. [00:11:21] And then a transfer from the city fund [00:11:25] estimating a millage rate of 9.15 would be $865,000. [00:11:31] Sale of Orange Lake property would be $300,000. [00:11:35] And we're going to bring over, [00:11:38] we had $450,000 in the grant program last year, [00:11:43] of which we've used $250,000. [00:11:45] But we have so many individuals that have property in town [00:11:49] that we're bringing that in to this year also, [00:11:53] that $200,000, so that we can continue [00:11:55] to work with those individuals. [00:11:58] Some have actually bought the property [00:12:01] and wanted to do a bigger project. [00:12:03] The Village Pub would be a classic example [00:12:05] where Carmen actually bought the building [00:12:06] and wants to do something up front [00:12:08] and is currently navigating the process [00:12:11] of getting that approved. [00:12:13] So total revenue would be $2.6 million. [00:12:17] I'm just going to run right down here [00:12:20] to what we have as the Main Street Director position [00:12:23] at $47,257,000, and that would be the wages [00:12:28] and all associated employee benefits associated with that. [00:12:32] Coming down to line item 31.81, [00:12:36] professional services and planning. [00:12:40] We're estimating approximately $60,000 of that [00:12:44] to be with the update of the CRA plan. [00:12:49] We're going to have to go on RFP [00:12:51] and find an organization that would help us, [00:12:53] obviously because you're going to have [00:12:55] to have a lot of community input. [00:12:57] It's going to be a really good time [00:12:58] to take a look at the CRA plan, [00:13:01] look at where we've been in terms of the evolution [00:13:04] of a demographics, the diversity of the city, [00:13:07] and really gather that input from the public [00:13:09] so we just know a whole lot more [00:13:12] in terms of where we're going. [00:13:15] Professional services, just bear with me [00:13:20] because I'd just like to give you a little bit more detail [00:13:21] in terms of what some of those are. [00:13:24] Those are what we call project-specific tasks. [00:13:28] The reason why I'm asking for that amount of money [00:13:30] is that throughout the course of the year, [00:13:33] here's a classic example where we've had [00:13:36] Danny Gatos kind of present on a concept, [00:13:38] and it might fall back, and I know that we were involved [00:13:43] in a restorative application originally, [00:13:46] and so we might be called upon to commit some funds [00:13:50] to maybe some plan that might be involved there. [00:13:52] So it's going to be a project-by-project basis. [00:13:56] Bert Bender, I want to take to Tallahassee with me [00:13:58] on the special category grants [00:14:00] so that I have some muscle there [00:14:01] when we're presenting before that board. [00:14:05] And I would really like to pursue [00:14:08] some more economic development grants. [00:14:09] I think that there's a lot more opportunity out there [00:14:13] to pursue those dollars, [00:14:15] and this city, after talking to some of the experts, [00:14:18] really kind of qualify for them, [00:14:20] given some of the census tracts we have. [00:14:21] It's been quite interesting and a really great conversation [00:14:24] with an expert that's not too long ago [00:14:26] that says since we have a citywide CRA, [00:14:28] there's some areas that we can explore. [00:14:29] So that's why I'm asking for funding for that. [00:14:32] And we don't know what the VA, [00:14:36] there's going to be an awful lot of work there [00:14:38] in terms of the detailed work, [00:14:40] in terms of submitting for the details. [00:14:43] So we're looking at specific projects [00:14:46] and we'll be assigning those dollars [00:14:47] to those specific projects [00:14:48] as they kind of come forward in time. [00:14:50] Advertising and marketing, account number 3422, [00:14:54] would be $10,000. [00:14:58] And then account number 3423. [00:15:00] 499 Contractual Services. We met with PDC about two months ago, Mr. Cronin, and what [00:15:11] they've done is they've kind of dropped that $10,000 program that we used to have with [00:15:15] them all the time, either get a project and you can sit on the advisory board, and they [00:15:20] informed us that they no longer have that program, that their focus pretty much is countywide. [00:15:26] And however, I do kind of have this so that we get involved with them on a specific project. [00:15:32] I do know that they're bringing their SmartSpark product back to this area, and that would [00:15:37] be an example as to where we would do that again. It provides the opportunity to engage [00:15:41] PDC should a project kind of come in this part of it or this specific area that we would [00:15:47] see beneficial to us. [00:15:49] $10,000 to the business incubator or post office for cleaning and repairs. We're just [00:15:58] always running the stuff into that building. And account number 4951, redevelopment incentives, [00:16:04] $375,000. About $175,000 will be focused on the current business incentive program. We're [00:16:16] looking at exteriors. That's pretty much a part of that carryover. And then about $200,000 [00:16:22] would be in what we call the building expansion and renovation or restoration. And again, [00:16:28] I look forward to working with development on that because I've talked to her about some [00:16:33] of these buildings that really need improvements, and we've engaged those business owners also. [00:16:39] And they have key properties in town. And I think by putting a bigger dollar number [00:16:44] on the plate would get them very interested in making major improvements specifically [00:16:49] to the exterior facade. So that's why we're going after that program. And there's some [00:16:57] other tools that we can use within the CRA statute that also sweeten that part for them [00:17:03] also. Residential incentives, again, this has to do with addressing the building stock. [00:17:11] A classic example is that, I think it was somewhere on Central Avenue, somebody bought [00:17:16] a building there, a duplex, and fixed it up and made it look very nice. And I think they're [00:17:21] planning on renting it out. But it was that upgrade that Mr. Wells was talking about. [00:17:25] And again, I'll be taking direction in terms of how we drive that forward. [00:17:28] Mr. Izzone, if I could just ask a question at this point. In terms of the residential [00:17:33] incentive program, did we have any money left over from last year that people didn't attack [00:17:39] or not attack? [00:17:40] No, we don't. [00:17:42] Okay. So my thought is, and I know that you said before in the dissertation part of your [00:17:49] presentation, that we need to pay attention to the residential. And so I'm thinking that [00:17:56] perhaps we need to boost that. And I'd be curious to know how many people were not able [00:18:05] to, you know, who may have been interested in that incentive that weren't able to because [00:18:10] the money was gone before the year came out, the year was up. [00:18:14] Well, I would agree with that. I think it's important to bring more dollars to the community, [00:18:20] specific economic development dollars. One of the things that I had a very extensive [00:18:25] conversation with Laura Volk on the Volk-Zimmerman study was that you strengthen your urban core, [00:18:31] but the goal is to then have that ripple effect where just outside the urban core, [00:18:35] there is that residential improvement. Yeah, we have rental, we're going to have Main Street [00:18:39] landings coming on board. We're going to have the residence of Orange Lace coming on board. [00:18:42] But it's just very much like me. You know, when I got out of college, I rented a place, [00:18:46] then I bought a place just outside of town or near town and built my, you know, and renovated [00:18:52] an older home because it was more affordable for me. And I think that we're very much like [00:18:56] that in a small town where you grew up there. You want to stay here, and I think we have [00:19:01] several residents that have already expressed that. And again, if we have people that want [00:19:06] to buy these older homes and renovate them significantly, I think that would be a great [00:19:11] program to do. I think one of the things that kind of came on the table last year was with [00:19:17] a well-known developer in the area. They had a whole city block that they were looking [00:19:21] to develop, but the market simply just wasn't there. And, you know, I got in a long conversation [00:19:28] as to how we can incentivize that market to build four or five new homes on a stretch [00:19:32] of a city block. I think it was in the south part of town. So again, that's what we're [00:19:37] pursuing in this program, is to be looking at a lot of this old building stock, and we [00:19:41] will begin reaching out to the people we've built relationships with, developers or, you [00:19:46] know, my door's always open, so I always engage in conversation with them. But I was [00:19:51] aware of one developer, I think, is able to build four or five houses, owns a property, [00:19:56] but the market wasn't there for that developer. And so this would be a great example of where [00:20:01] we can go back to that developer and say, if you put these five homes up, here's the [00:20:05] incentive we're going to offer to do that. [00:20:07] Well, I don't know what my colleagues think, but I think that we should increase that significantly, [00:20:13] and I'd be even inclined to triple it, and know that, you know, if it's used, it's, you [00:20:21] know, it's almost like seed money. It's going to go to a significant impact on the economic [00:20:27] development, so. [00:20:28] Just waiting for him to finish. [00:20:32] $49.99, the charge is $20,000, just a little bit reserved to deal with some things that [00:20:38] are going to crop up. $62.22 is the Hacienda Hotel. We'll be bringing $950,000 to the Hacienda [00:20:47] Hotel. I feel real comfortable about getting the $100,000 grant. Again, given the team [00:20:54] and talent we've assembled there with architects, we're certainly going to put on a hard push [00:20:58] with historic resources to make sure that we get the balance of that. [00:21:04] And then, $25,000 for a business incubator, primarily to upgrade the bathrooms. This actually [00:21:11] was in our rental agreement with the tenant. And again, I think that the front and the [00:21:17] side, a lot needs to happen there with the look and appeal of the incubator. It's evolving [00:21:22] into a really strong property. It's a great focal point. It's great to have the Main Street [00:21:26] office there. A lot of things happening in that facility, and hopefully a lot of good [00:21:32] things to come. So we want to keep some dollars allocated to that. We've kind of turned it [00:21:36] around where now it's beginning to pay for itself, which is kind of a good thing. [00:21:48] Any questions? [00:21:49] I do, Mr. Mayor, whenever you want to get to me. [00:21:52] Yeah, go right ahead. I'm probably going to back you up on the one that I'm guessing you're [00:21:56] Well, there's a few things. This is vanilla. This is very vanilla. This is like riding [00:22:07] in the same lane of traffic. I want to change lanes a little bit. That's the reason I let [00:22:15] you go all the way through your entire thing, so we didn't chop it up. I wanted to get your [00:22:21] whole thoughts out, the whole enchilada, whatever it is. This particular agency has been treated [00:22:34] like a stepchild. It's been used as a debt service tool. It's a whole series of things. [00:22:41] That's the reason that, and I'm sure we'll get the opportunity when you go out to get [00:22:50] that professional group that comes in that can redefine what the CRA is, because we've [00:22:57] spent the last two times redoing the CRA internally, because obviously when we were up to our eyeballs [00:23:07] in money and buying property and everything else, this agency had a lot more dynamics [00:23:14] to it. It goes a lot of different ways. First of all, you spend time on it. The manager [00:23:26] spends time on it as the executive director. They made the manager the executive director [00:23:33] years ago on a structural change. In some ways, some of the time that you're involved [00:23:39] with it and the manager needs to be compensated away from the ad valorem budget. I don't have [00:23:47] a magic number. It just needs, if it doesn't happen this year, it sure in the heck better [00:23:54] happen next year. I guess I'll get on a bigger soapbox and talk about more things, because [00:24:02] previously, as you can see back when it was being hammered, it was taking on about half [00:24:08] of different salaries in there, but the CM and the ED needs to be in there. [00:24:17] The advertising and marketing budget's a joke. It's an absolute joke. $10,000, you can spend [00:24:23] that in two weeks in four different platforms. Nowhere in here does it mention any elements [00:24:33] of the penny for Pasco or leveraging any of that penny for Pasco II that was specifically [00:24:41] designated for economic development. Whether it doesn't show up here or displaces dollars [00:24:47] in your ad valorem budget and puts the money back over here, I don't care how it happens, [00:24:55] but that money's being used by the county. They're actually borrowing against that money. [00:25:02] That's how they created the Melanie Kendrick division, because they didn't want to give [00:25:07] the money directly to PDEC, because over that 10-year time period, it's like $47 million. [00:25:14] We don't have a definition there. This residential incentive redevelopment, I don't mind if people [00:25:25] want to come and ask us for things, but these are developers, and they need to have their [00:25:32] own money into the pot before they're with us. I know there's income criteria and all [00:25:37] those. My thing is to create an additional, not a residential incentive, but I think we [00:25:45] ought to max out our clean up the neighborhood or find a program that allows us to recycle [00:25:55] or to do whatever. Over and above that, if not this year, next year, this budget needs [00:26:02] to include community policing elements. That's part of the reason the CRA was developed, [00:26:10] and that's the reason the city mackdaddied it to 99% of the city's area, so they could [00:26:19] not give all that money to the county and ask the county to give it back. Do I think [00:26:24] that that CRA hurts us on the county level sometimes? Sure, I do. Absolutely. This is [00:26:31] the only way we get these dollars back and we see the impact. I think that this budget [00:26:37] needs to, like I said, if not this year, at least next year, it needs to have some community [00:26:43] policing elements or some other dynamics to it. I would take that $75,000 from the $375,000 [00:26:51] for the redevelopment and disperse it through this budget now. I would like for the CRA, [00:27:03] since it is basically the entire city, and it's not even mentioned in your initiatives, [00:27:11] we talk about Marine District, Main Street, Main Street Programs, Hacienda. We're talking [00:27:17] about anything from a community, from a neighborhood. I've been on that for three or four years. [00:27:26] Then over and above that, this Community Development Authority needs to have some money to find [00:27:32] the right, it's not a program, but it needs to find the right mechanism and the right [00:27:40] funding elements to determine a downtown parking structure. If we don't, then all the stuff [00:27:53] we do here will come to a screeching halt in a short period of time. As I said, those [00:28:01] obviously are my thoughts. This agency needs to put on its big boy pants again, like I've [00:28:16] recommended to other people this year. It's a time to come start asking. We have to make [00:28:21] tough decisions. That's what we're here for, to give direction, not to be fully engaged [00:28:27] on a daily basis on incremental elements. We need to give direction. That's the direction. [00:28:33] We need to springboard this year and then pick up with it coming into the next one. [00:28:39] It's not directed at you, it's just the overall agency needs to have a better beeline focus [00:28:46] than what I see here. [00:28:48] Thank you. I was correct, I was going to wind up tag teaming on you. Parking Garage, we [00:28:55] had a million and a half dollars in the current fiscal year. This time last year, there was [00:29:01] another million and a half showing up. I don't know that it was in the CRA budget, but it [00:29:04] was somewhere in the capital improvement budget. That is going to be absolutely critical. Maybe [00:29:14] we just need to defer until we get to the capital improvement budget. I agree 100%. [00:29:19] We've got to do that, and definitely doing stuff to make the neighborhoods look a little [00:29:25] better would be good. I don't know that we need to arbitrarily pick dollar figures for [00:29:31] the residential grants, but we've got to start addressing that. So you're absolutely right. [00:29:39] Director Davis, anything? [00:29:40] I think you guys pretty much covered it. [00:29:44] Director Starkey? [00:29:45] I agree, we need a parking stretcher for sure. I think everyone's kind of on board with that. [00:29:51] And Councilman Phillips does have a good point. Everyone keeps talking about cleaning up our [00:29:56] neighborhoods, and that's part of this agency's job, right? [00:30:00] do incentives to to get that going and you know in its defense we've been off [00:30:05] off track I think for years and years and years due to you know the economy [00:30:11] and everything that the city's been through but things are looking better [00:30:14] now so let's get it back on track and I agree with what you said. So you've got [00:30:19] comments from all five of us at this point hope that helps. Thank you for your [00:30:28] your presentation your hard work on this. Yes. Anything else we need to come [00:30:32] before the CRA tonight? Hearing nothing I entertain a motion to adjourn.

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4. 4Adjournment