LDRB (Land Development Review Board) reviewed the FY2016-2017 Capital Improvements Program and rated 70 photos to shape commercial design standards along US 19 and other corridors.
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Discussion - FY2016-2017 Capital Improvements Program (CIP)
discussedStaff led a discussion on the FY2016-2017 Capital Improvements Program (CIP), reviewing categories of projects including general (City Hall, Recreation Center), stormwater, capital improvements (Sims Park, Orange Lake, Gray Preserve expansion), water/sewer, redevelopment (Hacienda Hotel, incubator, Main Street Landing), and street improvements. Public Works Director Robert Rivera answered questions on tennis court parking lot rehabilitation, seawall stabilization, boat ramp, Peace Hall windows, the upcoming pavement management plan/assessment, and stormwater quality (NPDES) elements. No vote was taken; this was a discussion item with formal recommendation to come in November/December.
Adams StreetIndian Avenue LandfillMadison StreetMarine Parkway between US-19 and Grand BoulevardMassachusetts Avenuesouth end of Congress StreetMain Street LandingSWFWMDState Department of Economic OpportunityCrystalDebbieLisaMr. SmallwoodRobert RiveraBMPs (Best Management Practices)CDS unitsCapital Improvements ElementClean Water ActComprehensive PlanFY2016-2017 Capital Improvements ProgramFive-Year Schedule of Capital ImprovementsGray Preserve expansionHacienda Hotel restorationIncubator buildingMain Street bridge/underpassMain Street gateway entryNPDES permitOrange Lake sidewalks/park projectPavement Management PlanPeace HallPenny for PascoRestore Act ($100,000 grant)Seawall stabilization projectSims Park improvementsStreet Improvement Fund 701▶ Jump to 1:10 in the videoShow transcriptHide transcript
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[00:01:10] Our only case for today is the case number FY216-217, [00:01:21] Capital Improvements Program. [00:01:23] And we'll have a discussion on that, led by staff. [00:01:28] If I could just introduce Mr. Smallwood to the group today. [00:01:34] He is your new alternate on the board, [00:01:36] and we're happy to have him. [00:01:37] So welcome to Mr. Smallwood. [00:01:40] Thank you. [00:01:42] Thank you. [00:01:42] And we actually have two cases on today's agenda. [00:01:45] They're both discussion items. [00:01:46] And the first one is the Capital Improvements Program, [00:01:49] which relates to the capital improvements element [00:01:52] that you see regularly on an annual basis. [00:01:54] We're trying to have you understand [00:01:56] how we get to the capital improvement element amendments. [00:02:01] And the second case on the agenda [00:02:02] is a discussion about commercial development standards. [00:02:06] And what I passed out just a few moments ago [00:02:07] is the visual preference survey that we're [00:02:09] going to be going through once we get to that case. [00:02:13] So thank you so much for being here. [00:02:19] And as Lisa indicated, this is a discussion item. [00:02:22] We're talking about the Capital Improvements Program. [00:02:25] This is in advance of your future recommendation [00:02:28] of approval or denial of the improvements [00:02:32] to the capital improvements element. [00:02:36] Capital improvements, these are projects [00:02:39] associated with physical assets in the city, [00:02:41] large-scale projects, high-cost projects, non-recurring. [00:02:44] These are projects that are not associated [00:02:46] with regular maintenance of projects. [00:02:49] They may require multi-year financing, [00:02:51] and they're constructed or purchased [00:02:53] to provide, improve, or replace a public facility. [00:02:57] The Capital Improvements Program identifies capital projects [00:03:00] and equipment purchases, provides a planning schedule, [00:03:03] and it identifies options for financing the plan. [00:03:06] This provides the basis for the update [00:03:08] to the capital improvements element. [00:03:11] We ask you to recommend approval of the updates [00:03:13] to the capital improvements element on an annual basis. [00:03:16] We anticipate providing that update, [00:03:18] which includes the five-year schedule [00:03:20] of capital improvements probably in November or December. [00:03:25] The capital improvements element is one of the elements [00:03:28] in the comprehensive plan identifying [00:03:29] the capital improvements needed to implement the comp plan [00:03:32] and to ensure that adopted levels [00:03:34] of service standards are maintained. [00:03:37] In the packet that you received, [00:03:39] it listed the number of projects that are being reviewed [00:03:41] in the Capital Improvements Program. [00:03:43] They include some of the general projects, [00:03:46] which included the, this was the renovations to City Hall, [00:03:51] as well as the improvements to the Recreation Center, [00:03:54] which did not include the projects [00:03:57] associated with the expansion of the Recreation Center. [00:04:01] The stormwater improvements addressed improvements [00:04:03] throughout the city, including the rehabilitation project [00:04:07] of the pond at the Indian Avenue Landfill Project. [00:04:12] The Capital Improvement Fund included a list of projects [00:04:16] associated with Sims Park improvements, [00:04:19] improvements to the Orange Lake sidewalks and park area, [00:04:24] also the expansion of the Gray Preserve. [00:04:28] In the past few months, [00:04:29] we asked the Land Development Review Board [00:04:31] to review and make a recommendation of approval [00:04:33] for land use changes and a rezoning to land [00:04:37] adjacent to the Gray Preserve for the expansion. [00:04:40] And here we have the funding for the trails [00:04:43] and parking area for that new access to the Gray Preserve [00:04:48] at the south end of Congress Street. [00:04:50] The water and sewer construction projects [00:04:54] include improvements to a public works warehouse [00:04:58] and extension of lines throughout the city. [00:05:02] The redevelopment projects include the restoration of the, [00:05:06] continued restoration of the Hacienda Hotel, [00:05:09] improvements to the incubator building [00:05:11] and fundings associated with the development agreement [00:05:16] with Main Street Landing. [00:05:18] And lastly, the Capital Improvements Program [00:05:24] also included a number of street improvements, [00:05:27] streetscaping improvements, [00:05:29] and the proposed multi-use trail [00:05:33] located along Marine Parkway [00:05:35] between US-19 and Grand Boulevard. [00:05:40] Again, the Capital Improvements Program [00:05:42] provides the basis for the improvements [00:05:45] or for the amendments we plan to make [00:05:47] to the Capital Improvements Element. [00:05:49] The Capital Improvements Element [00:05:50] is one of the 11 elements [00:05:51] associated with the Comprehensive Plan. [00:05:55] The purpose of the Capital Improvements Element [00:05:57] is to identify the improvements, [00:05:58] the capital improvements needed [00:05:59] to implement the Comprehensive Plan [00:06:01] and to maintain the level of service standards [00:06:03] that are established in the element. [00:06:06] And the update to the Capital Improvements Element [00:06:09] that you'll be seeing in November or December [00:06:11] ensure that the level of service standards [00:06:14] are achieved and maintained. [00:06:15] It addresses the timing and funding of the projects. [00:06:19] It's updated on an annual basis. [00:06:22] And once that's been adopted, [00:06:24] that will be forwarded [00:06:25] to the State Department of Economic Opportunity. [00:06:28] This five-year schedule of capital improvements [00:06:31] is derived from the Capital Improvements Program. [00:06:33] It addresses a narrower list of projects [00:06:36] than you see in the current Capital Improvements Program. [00:06:40] It's only those projects that are associated [00:06:42] with the level of service standards [00:06:43] in the Comprehensive Plan. [00:06:44] And it's only those projects that cost $50,000 or more. [00:06:49] In the five-year schedule, [00:06:51] it identifies revenue sources [00:06:52] and the funding status of the different projects. [00:06:54] And it applies a relative priority [00:06:58] of high, medium, or low to each of the projects. [00:07:02] The Comprehensive Plan has level of service standards [00:07:04] associated with sanitary sewers, [00:07:06] solid waste, stormwater, potable water, [00:07:09] parks and recreation, schools, and transportation. [00:07:12] Last year in December, [00:07:14] you approved this five-year schedule [00:07:16] of capital improvements for the fiscal year 2015-16 [00:07:21] through 2019-2020. [00:07:25] And this was the three-page, [00:07:26] five-year schedule that you approved. [00:07:28] And so you have before you, for discussion purposes, [00:07:31] the Capital Improvements Program. [00:07:33] And we want you to keep that in mind [00:07:35] for the amendments coming before you [00:07:37] to be applied to the Capital Improvements element. [00:07:40] And to my left, I have Robert Rivera, [00:07:44] our Public Works Director, [00:07:45] who'd be available to answer any questions you may have [00:07:48] about the projects that are identified [00:07:49] in the Capital Improvements Program. [00:07:52] So it's my understanding at this point, [00:07:54] then, what we're doing is just giving our recommendation [00:07:58] to the City Council as far as what we feel on this. [00:08:01] Is that correct? [00:08:02] You're not providing a recommendation. [00:08:05] This is a discussion item. [00:08:07] You'll be making a recommendation [00:08:10] regarding approval of the amendments [00:08:11] to the Capital Improvement element, [00:08:12] and that'll be in November or December. [00:08:14] This is strictly a discussion item. [00:08:16] The discussion does go to the City Council, then? [00:08:19] Correct, the minutes will be forwarded to the City Council. [00:08:24] Make sure we have the right sequence of things. [00:08:27] And I think this was brought up [00:08:29] because we wanted to see this [00:08:30] before we actually got to the very end stage [00:08:33] of what was going on, correct? [00:08:36] Thank you. [00:08:39] I have a question for Robert. [00:08:42] I, just in looking through the packet, [00:08:45] one of the items was tennis courts [00:08:48] and construction of tennis courts. [00:08:50] Are we building new tennis courts in that area, [00:08:54] Robert, or what are we? [00:08:55] No, sir, those tennis courts were improved a few years back. [00:09:01] The majority of that money is gonna go [00:09:02] to the rehabilitation of the parking lot. [00:09:05] I don't know if you've noticed, [00:09:06] but the city, through the years, [00:09:08] has been redoing their parking lots. [00:09:10] And so this is one of the last tarred chip ones [00:09:13] that we have left. [00:09:14] So a large portion of those fundings [00:09:16] will go towards resurfacing the parking lot. [00:09:20] The drainage issue that we have [00:09:23] on the perimeter of the tennis courts [00:09:26] needs to be addressed, [00:09:27] so there'll be some drainage element to it. [00:09:30] And then we will also upgrade all the electrical work. [00:09:33] The wiring for the parking lots, [00:09:36] for the lights for the courts and stuff, [00:09:38] they're just brittle, ready to go south, [00:09:42] so we really need to address those issues. [00:09:44] Yeah, it does need a lot of work on that area. [00:09:47] And then there's some minor fence repairs, [00:09:50] mainly to the two gates as you walk in. [00:09:53] They're all rusted and everything. [00:09:54] Yeah, okay, very good. [00:09:59] Any other discussions? [00:10:01] I'll be just looking through, [00:10:03] I see the summary of flood control. [00:10:05] Those are like the boxes [00:10:06] that we had at Adams Street installed. [00:10:08] Is that what you're looking to do, build more of those? [00:10:10] Yes, sir. [00:10:11] Yeah, that's what I thought. [00:10:12] And then, let's see, what else do I have? [00:10:15] I was glad to see the Main Street bridge. [00:10:18] I guess that's the underpass. [00:10:21] Okay, that's good. [00:10:22] I know we talked about that three or four years ago [00:10:24] when we were doing the park, [00:10:25] especially if we're looking at a parking garage, [00:10:28] which I'm tickled to death to see in there, [00:10:30] because that way it keeps people off the street [00:10:32] and under the bridge, [00:10:33] and it makes safety for everyone a lot better, for sure. [00:10:38] And also, the gateway entry at Main Street, [00:10:41] I know there's a lot more attached to that [00:10:43] than just going down there and throwing it up, [00:10:45] so let's hope that we have some good luck [00:10:48] with the state on that one. [00:10:52] The other was, oh, seawall stabilization. [00:10:55] Are those like random seawalls around the city [00:10:59] or the ones down at the park? [00:11:01] Does any of those need some work on them right now? [00:11:03] I've seen one slipping away on the north end a little bit. [00:11:06] Correct, we expect this to be a multi-phase project. [00:11:13] If approved, we're gonna go through [00:11:15] and start identifying the areas [00:11:17] and then start remediation action according to priorities. [00:11:22] But pretty much all of the seawalls that we have, [00:11:24] existing seawalls now, have a stabilization problem, [00:11:28] and so we need to stabilize the soil behind them [00:11:31] so that we can save them. [00:11:33] Okay. [00:11:34] Also, I see we're gonna invest a lot of money into [00:11:37] and do a lot of improvements over at the boat ramp. [00:11:40] Are we gonna start charging fees there [00:11:42] as they do at some of the other county boat ramps, [00:11:45] like Anclote and Blaise, [00:11:46] so we can have a little bit of recovery [00:11:47] and feel like we're getting something out of that money? [00:11:51] At this point in time, [00:11:52] I know the discussion has gone back and forth. [00:11:54] It's been brought up to council a few times [00:11:57] with city managers talked about it, staff's talked about it, [00:12:01] but recently, I don't think that we've had [00:12:03] any discussion about that. [00:12:04] Okay. [00:12:05] I don't really know that there's that much recovery [00:12:08] we can get, because if you have to hire somebody [00:12:11] to take the fees and... [00:12:12] I think it was a machine at Anclote. [00:12:14] I haven't really done it, so it's possible. [00:12:17] We have explored different options related to that, [00:12:20] but council hasn't given us any direction [00:12:22] to pursue it further. [00:12:23] Sure, it would be similar to the one [00:12:24] that we have out at the park, [00:12:27] where you have to pay for your parking [00:12:28] and use a credit card or pay cash with it, [00:12:31] and it's totally automated. [00:12:32] That's possible. [00:12:33] I see Peace Hall. [00:12:34] We've already done the windows on that, correct? [00:12:37] We've done the windows in the past, [00:12:39] but they're the wooden ones, [00:12:41] and upon inspection, we had some vandalism over there, [00:12:46] and so the guys went out and started taking a look at them, [00:12:49] and we found out that it's time to redo that again, [00:12:53] so we're going to... [00:12:54] It looks like they've done, either cleaned them up [00:12:55] or painted it or something, [00:12:56] because they look pretty decent. [00:12:58] We recently did some painting. [00:13:01] Okay. [00:13:01] And for the price, just to include it, [00:13:04] it was a lump sum, [00:13:05] we had the contractor go ahead and paint it. [00:13:09] There was one other one, [00:13:10] and I can't find it, get my hands on it right now, [00:13:12] was boat parking a new boat parking facility [00:13:15] or something for trailers? [00:13:18] Was that in here? [00:13:20] No, sir. [00:13:22] I've seen that somewhere. [00:13:24] Oh, here it is. [00:13:25] No, that's... [00:13:27] Maybe I didn't see it. [00:13:30] Glad to see all the paths and the crosswalk at Main Street, [00:13:34] that'll be good, so. [00:13:36] That's about all I have. [00:13:39] I know this isn't part of this discussion, [00:13:41] but since we did bring up parking, I mean, paving, [00:13:45] it would be nice for the board just to be made aware [00:13:49] of where we're at on our paving for the city. [00:13:53] You're talking about street paving? [00:13:53] Streets, yeah. [00:13:55] Well, how convenient that we have [00:13:56] the public works director here [00:13:57] who could probably address that. [00:13:59] I thought since we had that, [00:14:00] we'd love to hear that while he's here. [00:14:05] Well, we have our public meeting next Tuesday, [00:14:07] and that's basically, we have a pavement management plan [00:14:12] currently that's existing. [00:14:14] It has several deficiencies, [00:14:16] and one of them is its sustainability. [00:14:19] There's more funds going out than is going in, [00:14:22] and currently, it assesses the benefiting property owner [00:14:27] by the front footage of the street. [00:14:31] It doesn't take into consideration [00:14:33] the types of businesses or the types of functions [00:14:36] that are going on in the pieces of property [00:14:39] and the deterioration of the road that's created by that. [00:14:43] Sorry, sorry. [00:14:45] So what we're trying to do is to create [00:14:48] a fair and equitable system to where everyone pays [00:14:54] into the transportation network as a whole, [00:14:57] meaning most people just don't. [00:15:00] in front of their, that section of road in front of their home, most people go to the doctor, the grocery store, restaurants, and those types of things. [00:15:10] So, we've tried to add two different elements. We've tried to add the average size parcel of town, which would basically compare with your [00:15:18] existing charge that you have now with that frontage that's in your front yard of the street. [00:15:24] And then we've added what we would call another element that would take into consideration the type of business or the type of function that's [00:15:33] occurring on that parcel, as well as the trip counts that directly create that deterioration. [00:15:41] And so we're going to present it Tuesday to council. It's our first public hearing. Council can take staff's recommendation and make no changes. [00:15:52] They can add their changes if they would like, or they can sit there and tell us that we need to maintain the system that we have in place as is. [00:16:02] And, of course, then we would start with our next project that we already have ready to go. [00:16:12] It's just an observation, but the roads seem to be deteriorating at a greater, at a more rapid pace than they used to. [00:16:19] I don't know if it's because of additional traffic. I don't know if it's because of all the FedEx and UPS and garbage trucks and everything else that go up and down the roads. [00:16:28] But, you know, I think if we don't address it pretty quick, you know, we continue to have, I think, a deteriorating-looking city. [00:16:38] And nothing speaks greater about a city than its roads and sidewalks and curb appearance. [00:16:47] I think Madison Street is a prime example of that, and Massachusetts Avenue. [00:16:52] The roadways are designed at a 20-year period, and then once you reach that halfway point, then the acceleration or deterioration rate accelerates greatly. [00:17:06] And so the problem that you have is if you don't decide to make corrective measures at this point, you still will have to do that, except for the cost will more than double. [00:17:20] Absolutely, Robert. Thank you. I'm sorry I brought us down that path, but I thought I wanted to hear that. [00:17:25] I have a question in that same department to you as well. Is the budget that is, the capital improvement budget that is here listed, has that been impacted by the proposed assessment program in any way at this point? [00:17:41] Or would it change dramatically if that program is approved by the citizens? [00:17:48] It has been included in that draft, and at this point it's just a draft. If it wasn't approved, then we would have to basically drop back and punt and re-examine where we're at. [00:18:00] We still, my recommendation is that we would still proceed with our next project, but it would be at a smaller scale. And of course it would be delayed. [00:18:14] Robert, I know I've asked you before at some of the other meetings, but I noticed in the drainage, especially stormwater, that there is a system for filtering that before it goes into the river. Is that correct? [00:18:29] And could you explain, does that take all of the oils and sediments out, or does that take a percentage, or just what are we looking at with that? [00:18:39] When the federal government passed the Clean Water Act, back in 1981 I believe it was, it called out for several mandates that government agencies had to implement as far as cleaning up our waterways. [00:18:56] And so it ended up creating what we call an NPDES permit that the city has, and it has quite a few unfunded mandates that we have to adhere to. [00:19:08] And one of those mandates includes water quality elements to every project that we conduct, or water quality elements for maintenance items when we're out there. [00:19:20] You might have seen some of the silt fencing and the hay bales and the socks in front of the inlets. Those are mainly maintenance items that we do. [00:19:28] When we do projects like Orange Lake that we're proposing, or the Adams Street project that we did, we installed these water quality elements that separated a lot of the oils and the different types of pollutants that go through the system. [00:19:46] Now, every water quality element has a bypass element to it, because you never know what type of storm event you're going to have and the large amount of water that's going to be going through the system. [00:19:58] So they all have a bypass to them, so none of them can remove 100% of it, but most of the BMPs, what we call them, will capture not over 90% of whatever pollutant you're trying to take care of. [00:20:16] An example would be our downtown area. We have baskets in our inlet structures. That's because in the downtown area, you'll find that there's a lot of bottles and cans and diapers and those types of large items. [00:20:30] Those baskets will catch them, and they'll catch 100% of them until that basket gets filled up, and then, of course, now you're in a bypass mode. [00:20:39] So every project that we do and all of our maintenance items that are performed in-house, we're always looking to see if we can improve that water quality. [00:20:51] That's always been one of our prides is the river here, and for years, I know that there was a lot of pollutants that went in there, and so if we can do what we can to clean it, I think it always helps with that. [00:21:03] I know the Orange Lake project that we have is partially grant-funded. We have about $350,000. $100,000 would come from the Restore Act. $247,000 would come from SWFMUD, and most of that goes towards the dredging, [00:21:20] but both agencies have said that they're not going to pay for dredging if we don't add a water quality element, and so, of course, that's where the CDS units came into place to where we can take and clean that up, trap those pollutants before they get emptied out into the river. [00:21:36] I did have... [00:21:38] I was going to say, could I ask just a generic question, just a newbie question? Where it says penny for PASCO, do we know, are all these projects based on the amount of money we know or we assume is going to be coming in based on penny for PASCO, or is this just kind of a wish list, and they list it in the order in which we would try to accomplish them? [00:21:59] It's a combination of all of that. Crystal does a pretty good job, and Debbie does a pretty good job of figuring out how much money has come in the past. Some of them are based on the amount of monies that you've invested the previous year, and they can kind of get an estimate of what's going to come in this year. [00:22:18] So, yes, a lot of the projects are a wish project, but they're based upon concrete conservative numbers, and so pretty much everything that you see in here, unless council directs us to move in a different direction, we would expect to implement. [00:22:35] But if I look at these tables and summaries, are they in a particular order? I know Crystal talked about priorities. I didn't know if there's a priority, if it's higher up on the list, if it's a higher priority to be funded than the others. [00:22:47] Those priorities are discussed during the year, and if the project makes it into the capital improvement program, it's pretty much a reality as far as once council makes the final approval, then that directs us to proceed with it. [00:23:03] A lot of these items in here, to give you an example, the grants have already been secured a few years back because we're dealing with a five year plan. So it's very much a real document. [00:23:17] Okay. I have another question. On the summary of projects by fund, the first page there under street improvement fund, 701, it's about 10 pages from the back. It's brown. [00:23:31] We have 2014-2015 street improvement project constructions, 2.2 million. But it's listed under 16-17. Has that been completed, or where are we at on that? [00:23:47] The way public works, the year that we start engineering is the year that it's in front of the project name. For all sense of purposes, we're at 100% design on that project because we started the previous year. [00:24:07] Okay, you're on 100% design. Have we finished construction on that portion? No. We would wait until October because this is in the CIP for the next following year. So October 1, we would expect to go to bid and start that construction next year. [00:24:28] Okay. I have a question, a general question. I'm not sure who to direct this to, but on the swimming pool, the 50 meter pool, I noticed that a million and a half is in the general fund and 3.1 is in the capital fund. And I just wanted to get some education as to why we break it down that way, what the rationale is. [00:24:53] And I don't know that I was prepared to address any of those financial questions, and we didn't invite the finance director for that, but we can certainly get back to you on that. We're hoping to go through the projects and see if you have any discussions, items on that. But you actually do all raise some very interesting and important questions. [00:25:13] I'm assuming the answer is just it's different funding sources since they're broken down by funding sources. [00:25:19] That's what you think it is. [00:25:20] We ran out of money in the general. We have to go somewhere else. [00:25:24] One of the questions I have also, you said that pretty much anything that is put in here is pretty much set in stone, but it was my understanding that it still came before this city council and that they could change things or amend things as it goes along. Is that correct? I mean, if you don't have enough funds to do something, you're not going to do it, and you would have to prioritize things. [00:25:51] Correct. I guess I should drop back and tell you that everything that is in this program is a legitimate project. It's not just a whim, so to speak. Council will take it into consideration, look at it. They can either remove it, they can keep it the way it is. [00:26:09] We've got the major elements included in each one of these projects, not the fine details and smaller amenities that are associated with those projects. [00:26:21] Since our comments are going to the city council, I do have concerns about $1.7 million in the recreation and aquatic center. I think that could really be cut somewhat, and I'm not sure. I'm not an engineer. I'm not in on the bottom line of it, but it just seems like an awful large number for what type of income would come back in from it for the return on the capital that goes into it. [00:26:47] To me, that seems awful large. And then when we start looking at an Olympic-sized pool, putting that in as a new expenditure, although that's five years out, that still looks like something I think they really have to look at. Is there really a return on the investment on something like that? [00:27:06] Mr. Chairman, if you allow me. [00:27:07] Certainly. [00:27:08] Given the expenditures that the city's making, those are the only ones being funded. [00:27:18] Correct. [00:27:20] When the council determines that they're comfortable with the proposed budget, when they adopt it, it will become part of our budget. [00:27:29] As you indicated, the 50-meter pool in the Olympic site is actually the same thing and shouldn't have been. [00:27:41] OK. [00:27:42] I do not have a current lead to them at all in respect specifically to the $1.7 million being contemplated for improvement at the city's recreation and aquatic centers. [00:28:13] I'm not aware of whether or not that expenditure will be funded. [00:28:19] I don't have a formula to determine that. [00:28:26] Good. Thank you. Thank you for his clarification on that. [00:28:34] Thank you. Could we comment a little bit more on the improvements on Madison Street and also the multi-use path out to Marine Parkway? [00:28:43] Just give us a little bit more information on those two as far as what we're going to be doing in those two areas. [00:28:50] The multi-use path, we actually had a pre-construction meeting yesterday, and so that project is getting ready to get started. [00:29:00] It calls for improvements between US Highway 19 to Grand Boulevard, a 10-foot wide sidewalk where it's available. [00:29:14] We are going to install a bunch of landscaping along the way. We've got some reclaimed water that's already in place. [00:29:22] It calls for upgrades of the two bus stops that are there. I don't know if you're familiar with the existing bus shelters that the county has that are green. [00:29:32] Ours are going to be powder-coated black. [00:29:38] There are some improvements around the pond. We will be planting some cypress trees. [00:29:44] And then we'll have some of the decorative lighting that we typically have in our downtown area as well as some trash cans and those different types of things to where it kind of ties in to the street. [00:30:00] and then of course we have a hundred foot right-of-way over on that road so [00:30:04] we're trying to keep everything put it up to the right-of-way as much as we can [00:30:09] so that don't use up our space in case we had to make some additional [00:30:17] that's a wide a wide sidewalk but not a bike path is that it's a multi-use path [00:30:23] is what they'll call it the trail goes by different guidelines is wider and it [00:30:28] has to be consistent through the whole length of that of the path in this case [00:30:35] we have some areas where we're not going to be able to do that okay and then on [00:30:39] Madison Street Madison Street is an extension of it's it's a two-part [00:30:45] project it's an extension on the on the west side of our streetscape and so [00:30:51] typically where you'll see your pavers the decorative pavers that we have and [00:30:56] we have the trash cans and the benches and the lighting that'll be over on the [00:31:01] west side the east side we will tie into the multi-use path that we just [00:31:07] completed and get that down to Central Avenue or Main Street to where each year [00:31:14] we we plan on presenting to council extension of our downtown streetscape [00:31:21] amenities to where we can thank you Robert I do have one final question and [00:31:31] maybe our city manager can answer that one too and it has to do with the Main [00:31:36] Street landing development I had thought we were funding part of that this year [00:31:42] but it looks like it's in next year for 2017-18 and could you just I had thought [00:31:49] they were going to be working on that already this year but could you kind of [00:31:53] tell us what's happening there where that where the funding is and what's [00:31:58] happening [00:32:07] yeah it's under redevelopment [00:32:49] okay thank you anybody else have any other questions yes I do go ahead on the [00:33:10] hacienda the 950,000 that's in the CRA that is that the money that's already [00:33:17] been expended for the roof and structural improvements or is that [00:33:22] something else [00:33:40] is that a matching grant or is it just a complete grant was that a grant that we [00:33:46] were going to match funds [00:33:57] any other questions we'll get as many of those as we can we appreciate you being [00:34:07] here to answer our questions okay okay I guess that concludes our discussion [00:34:14] which there's no action on this one it's just a discussion to our second
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Discussion - Commercial Development Standards
discussedStaff led a visual preference survey exercise with the LDRB to gather input for future code amendments on commercial development standards along US Highway 19, Congress Street, Grand Boulevard, and Massachusetts Avenue (excluding downtown). Members rated 70 photos across categories including auto/boat dealerships, kennels, thrift stores, outdoor sales/vending, building design, landscaping, parking lot screening and location, fencing, shopping cart corrals, and mechanical unit screening. Board discussed sharing the survey with additional community groups for broader input.
- direction:Staff will collect the visual preference surveys and also offer the survey to additional groups including Frank Starkey's workshop group and Main Street groups for broader input before drafting code amendments. (none)
Congress StreetGrand BoulevardGulfMassachusetts AvenuePine HillUS Highway 19Main StreetBob SmallwoodDebbieFrank StarkeyLisaRobertC2 zoningCapital Improvements Element/ProgramCommercial Development Standards code amendmentHighway commercial zoningSeptember 22nd next meetingVisual Preference Survey▶ Jump to 34:15 in the videoShow transcriptHide transcript
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[00:34:21] item of business and that is discussion of the commercial development standards [00:34:25] and Lisa I guess you'll be leading that I sure will and I just wanted to thank [00:34:30] Robert for his time here he's going to be departing because he's got some [00:34:34] capital improvements he's got a plan for right now thank you Robert we sure [00:34:43] appreciate his time today and and both he and his man's have been well well [00:34:50] used today by y'all so you had some good questions for them so we'd like to [00:34:54] always thank Robert for being here and for his interaction with us which has [00:34:58] always been very positive thank you so the next one will be the discussion on [00:35:05] the future code amendment for commercial development standards and I I just want [00:35:12] to kind of talk you through a few of these slides that we have these are the [00:35:17] same as what we handed out to you in your packet so now's a good time for you [00:35:21] to maybe get a glass of water maybe open your your goldfish crackers we want you [00:35:27] to you know have this be an enjoyable entertaining participatory function for [00:35:32] you you're going to be looking at a series of slides and we're interested in [00:35:38] garnering your your advice if you will by voting on these slides and this is in [00:35:45] advance of us preparing amendments to the code regarding commercial development in [00:35:49] the city the areas that we're looking for in particular are those locations [00:35:58] that are primarily along US Highway 19 as well as along Congress Street Grand [00:36:07] Boulevard and Massachusetts Avenue it would not include the area of downtown [00:36:13] that is a separate special area that has its own set of standards and guidelines [00:36:19] so for the purposes of these amendments we'll be bringing forward we're looking [00:36:23] at those colored areas that you see on the slide the red would be the highway [00:36:28] commercial area and the blue would be what we consider c2 zoning again [00:36:33] concentrated on Congress and Grand and Gulf a little bit of Pine Hill the [00:36:41] visual preference survey again is used to gauge your views we're going to show [00:36:46] you several photos of different topic areas and you're going to be voting on [00:36:50] them and it's a very highly technical skill you're going to need to use you're [00:36:55] going to use your pen that we gave you and you're going to circle a number so [00:36:59] we gave you a pen to do that with the last time we had you participate in a [00:37:06] visual preference survey was two years ago when we started working on parking [00:37:11] standards some of you who have been around a while remember that that [00:37:17] program as well in terms of the ranking we're going to ask you to to rank or [00:37:23] rate each of the photos on a scale of one to seven if you don't like what you [00:37:29] see on the screen you're going to vote close to the one if you're kind of [00:37:33] middle-of-the-road you're going to vote in the four or five range and if you [00:37:37] really love it you're going to vote with the higher number there are 70 [00:37:41] questions 70 photos we'll probably spend about five to six seconds on each photo [00:37:48] they do correspond again with your packet and they have a cue and a number [00:37:54] so cue one is the first question so question one question two so if what you [00:37:59] see on the slide if you get confused you'll find the number on your piece of [00:38:03] paper so everything you see on the slide is exactly what you have in your hand on [00:38:07] the piece of paper this is an independent exercise it's not a team [00:38:20] effort and it will be anonymous as long as you keep it that way so with that I [00:38:26] wanted to start with two slides that are kind of two general questions we want to [00:38:32] ask you before we look at the photos so the first question we have for you is [00:38:36] what would you like to improve and we're asking that you pick two of those [00:38:42] listed on that slide or you can you can write in something that we hadn't [00:38:48] considered again this is just for that u.s. 19 19 or Congress Street or Grand [00:38:55] Boulevard any of that commercial activity any anywhere but downtown thank [00:39:00] you and we pick to pick to you get to look up so I know you're done to move on [00:39:20] I picked four on that that's the second general question we want to ask you is [00:39:28] should these standards that were that we're trying to create who to what [00:39:33] should they apply should they apply to new development or should they apply to [00:39:37] new development and redevelopment of properties so the topics we're going to [00:39:48] be talking about today are listed on this first slide and the first topic of [00:39:53] interest is uses and more specifically we're going to talk about auto [00:39:57] dealerships so question number three is how would you rank this automobile [00:40:02] dealership use on your preference list [00:40:12] so Lisa the question is kind of is this the quality of development you want to [00:40:16] see in the city of New Port Richey and we'll move on to the second one there's [00:40:21] there's six in this series of the automobile dealership use this is q4 [00:40:38] and we'll go to q5 I would tell you that most of the slides are not in the city [00:40:46] there are various other locations either regionally or even nationally we [00:40:52] searched far and wide for some of these the sixth slide is shown here this is q6 [00:40:59] also in the automobile dealership use category [00:41:05] q7 follows and there's q8 and that's the last of the automobile dealership [00:41:21] slides next we're moving on to the boat dealerships and again we picked some of [00:41:26] these because either we deal with them on a regular basis or we're finding [00:41:34] needs to maybe deal with them in the future so boat dealerships has five [00:41:39] different slides this is the first how do you rank this boat dealership on your [00:41:44] preference list this is q9 this is q10 another boat dealership [00:42:04] then we move to q11 I going at the right pace here for y'all doing great okay [00:42:14] then we go to q12 yes this is a boat dealership I'm not making it up and then [00:42:25] we go to q13 and that's the last of the boat dealership slides one of the other [00:42:32] areas that we're considering in the code is animal kennels and so we have [00:42:40] four slides to show you this is the first one this is q14 and we go to q15 [00:42:53] you 16 follows the next survey topic would be thrift stores and I know you [00:43:18] if you know us 19 in particular you're familiar with those so we have four [00:43:23] slides to show you starting with this one this is q18 you 19 follows [00:43:37] you 20 finally question 21 next topic is outdoor sales and display and we have [00:43:58] six slides to show you here starting with q22 an outdoor sales and display is [00:44:09] the topic q23 [00:44:14] you [00:44:20] 24 [00:44:27] q25 [00:44:34] q26 [00:44:37] q27 is the last of that series. The next survey topic is outdoor vending and [00:44:48] there are six of these starting with q28 [00:44:57] followed by q29 [00:45:00] to 30, 31, 32, 33, and that's the last of the outdoor vending slides. [00:45:26] The next topic area is building design. [00:45:29] There are six of these, starting with Q34, followed by Q35, Q36, and Q37. [00:45:56] Two more in this category, Q38, Q39. [00:46:08] The next category is landscaping, and in particular we're looking at building foundation landscaping, [00:46:15] or the landscaping you might see on the outside of a building. [00:46:20] And the first slide we're going to look at is Q40, followed by Q41, and Q42, and Q43. [00:46:49] Next topic is parking lot screening, and there are six slides in this category, starting [00:46:55] with Q44. [00:46:59] Parking lot screening. [00:47:00] Screening. [00:47:01] OK. [00:47:02] Screening from the street. [00:47:05] Correct. [00:47:08] Q45. [00:47:11] Q46. [00:47:15] Q47. [00:47:18] Do we have a really don't like it number? [00:47:24] A minus number, is that what you're suggesting? [00:47:30] And Q48. [00:47:33] 49 is the last one in that topic area. [00:47:40] Those follow with parking lot location, and there's six slides in this category, and what [00:47:45] we're looking for is your preference in terms of whether the parking should be to the rear [00:47:50] or the front of the building. [00:47:52] Q50 starts us with this one, which is location in front of the building, or forward of the [00:47:58] building, closer to the street. [00:48:00] This is Q50. [00:48:01] So this is building back and parking in the front. [00:48:06] Correct. [00:48:07] OK. [00:48:09] Q51 is another example of parking front of the building. [00:48:17] Q52 is a similar situation, shown on a site plan. [00:48:24] Q53, another real live example. [00:48:30] Q54 starts with parking behind the building. [00:48:38] Q55 is another example of parking behind the building. [00:48:48] Followed by Q56, which is the last one that shows parking behind the actual building. [00:48:56] The next topic is fencing, and there's five slides in this category, starting with Q57. [00:49:07] Q58, Q59, Q60, and the last one in this category is Q61. [00:49:30] Two more topics to go, the next of which is shopping cart rails. [00:49:36] There's five in this category, starting with Q62, 63, 64, 65, [00:49:59] and the last one is 66 in that category. [00:50:07] The last category we're going to be showing you pictures of is screening of mechanical units. [00:50:12] There's four slides in this category, and they start with this one at Q67, [00:50:24] continuing with Q68, and to Q69, rounding out the category with Q70. [00:50:43] Your last slide is your last question. [00:50:46] This is question 71. [00:50:49] What else do you want to tell us that you want us to consider [00:50:53] when it comes to commercial development standards? [00:50:56] Think about US Highway 19, Grand Boulevard, Massachusetts Avenue, Congress Street. [00:51:03] If you would love to write them down, tell us what you like, what you don't like, [00:51:06] where you want us to consider, where's your favorite place to go, [00:51:09] what do you want us to consider their standards. [00:51:39] Thank you. [00:52:08] While everybody's writing, I'll take a moment to thank staff, as always. [00:52:11] Excellent presentation and a really nice packet for us. [00:52:14] Thank you very much. [00:52:16] We equally thank you for coming out during the day and coming to see us. [00:52:21] I would just wrap up today's meeting by saying we look forward to reviewing your comments. [00:52:27] We are talking about who else we can offer the survey to, [00:52:32] other various groups and boards and committees in the city, [00:52:36] and we really want a broad variety of answers. [00:52:40] We will do our best to come up with some good standards. [00:52:44] Our goal is to make this the best city we can. [00:52:48] As you've heard Robert and Debbie both say, [00:52:50] the capital improvements element or program is going to be public dollars to invest in the city [00:52:56] to make it great from the public perspective. [00:52:59] The standards we're going to try to put together are going to really try to enforce the private side [00:53:05] to raise their standards as well, which we think we need both in order to have a great city. [00:53:10] So with that, we will see you back here at the next meeting on September 22nd. [00:53:17] One group that you might want to consider putting it before, it's not an official group, [00:53:22] but Frank Starkey has a workshop of local people that come to meet in the meeting place that he has there, [00:53:31] and I think that would be a really good group to put this before and have them look at it. [00:53:36] That's a good idea, and you're lucky to have Bob Smallwood on your group [00:53:40] because he chairs the Main Street Design Committee. Is that correct, Bob? [00:53:44] I don't chair. I chair the whole Main Street board, but I work with the design team. [00:53:50] I love the idea of Frank's group because I know from a new urbanism standpoint, [00:53:55] this would be a great survey to have that his team can look at. [00:53:59] We would want to have the Main Street groups and the working groups take a look at this as well. [00:54:03] Yeah, absolutely. [00:54:04] But I think both of those groups would be very good groups to have them look at this [00:54:09] and get some meaningful input from them because they have some good ideas that they're developing. [00:54:15] I mean, they're not an official group, but they really have a good voice [00:54:19] that have rounded people that you can talk with and get input.
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Adjourn
The meeting was adjourned with no further business.
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[00:54:26] If there's nothing else, then we can move for adjournment.
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