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   Presentation by Wannemacher Jensen Architects, Inc. RE: Meadows Dog Park

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   Hannah Ambrose of Wannemacher Jensen Architects presented a master plan for renovating the six-acre Meadows Dog Park, including new playgrounds for different age groups, a ninja court, three pickleball courts, reworked dog park areas, picnic area, nature trail, and river overlook. Council provided feedback suggesting lighting for pickleball courts, adding a kayak launch, more shade structures, considering a renaming to reflect family use beyond dogs, and revisiting a pedestrian bridge to James E. Gray Preserve.

   • direction:Council directed staff/architects to consider lighting for pickleball courts, adding a kayak launch or landing area, more shade structures over picnic tables, and renaming the park to reflect broader family use. (none)

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   [00:00:22] We have a presentation on the Meadows Dog Park. [00:00:25] We do, Mr. [00:00:26] Mayor, members of the council. [00:00:29] Meadows Dog Park is a six acre neighborhood park, which is located [00:00:36] along the river in the southern section of the city, and while the [00:00:42] park grounds are well maintained, the park amenities have suffered in [00:00:49] recent years, they appear to be overused and in need of repair. [00:00:59] Many of the amenities were identified in the Parks and Recreation Master [00:01:04] Plan as in need of replacement. [00:01:09] And so the city contracted with Wanamaker Jensen Architects, who [00:01:14] are, they are familiar to you. [00:01:16] And we have Hannah Ambrose with us this evening representing them. [00:01:21] We have worked with Wanamaker Jensen on both the Sims Park Project and [00:01:26] the Recreation and Aquatic Center. [00:01:29] And they have done a fine job for us in eliciting some design work for [00:01:40] the renovation of the park, which I think represents well a new sense of [00:01:52] pride for the park and increases its attractiveness and its usefulness [00:01:59] for the neighborhood, and I think that's really important because it's [00:02:02] one of our very few community parks. [00:02:05] So if you would, please share with the council your design work. [00:02:11] Absolutely. [00:02:13] Good afternoon, council members. [00:02:15] Thank you so much for having us here today. [00:02:17] My name is Hannah Ambrose. [00:02:19] I'm the project manager and architect with Wanamaker Jensen Architects, [00:02:23] and I'm pleased to show you today our progress on the Meadows Dog Park project. [00:02:33] I'm going to start out by giving a short tour of the existing conditions. [00:02:39] Clicker. [00:02:42] Oh, there we go. [00:02:44] Got a little ahead of myself. [00:02:45] So on site, as Debbie mentioned, we've got six acres approximately [00:02:52] of well-loved park space. [00:02:55] You can tell that the city really takes pride in this park here and that [00:02:59] the residents really make use of it. [00:03:02] As you come into the park, there's an existing gravel lot that [00:03:06] has about 16 parking spaces. [00:03:09] As you get out of the car and make your way into the park, the gravel [00:03:14] turns into a concrete sidewalk. [00:03:18] As you approach the park itself, the first thing that you see is [00:03:23] the children's playground area. [00:03:25] You can tell that's well-loved. [00:03:28] There are existing restroom facilities as well as a basketball court. [00:03:35] And as it's named Meadows Dog Park, there is a small dog and [00:03:39] large dog park space on site as well. [00:03:45] There we go. [00:03:48] All right. [00:03:48] So here's some photos that we took on site of the parking lot, making [00:03:53] your way into the park, the park entry, park entry path, playground, [00:04:00] existing restroom facilities, basketball court, small dog park. [00:04:06] And there's also a path, unintentional I think, that leads around the [00:04:11] dog parks that I think the city has been using to pick up garbage. [00:04:15] And when we saw that, we thought, okay, there might be an opportunity here [00:04:20] to utilize this space a little bit better, both for city staff and for the [00:04:25] residents in implementing a nature trail. [00:04:30] This is an existing weather shelter on site that's situated [00:04:33] in between the two dog parks. [00:04:35] A view of the active large dog park area to the right there. [00:04:41] You can see them kind of running around and you can see from the condition [00:04:46] of the ground that it's well used. [00:04:49] There's also an existing path out to the river that is [00:04:52] really quite beautiful right now. [00:04:56] It's dirt and mulch and you can see a lot of the endangered, [00:05:05] wetland species to the north of the actual park itself. [00:05:08] And then that makes its way to a clearing overlooking the river. [00:05:13] And we thought it would be great to not only preserve that, [00:05:16] but highlight it a little bit more. [00:05:22] Here we go. [00:05:24] So this is the proposed master plan that we've had the pleasure of working on. [00:05:29] You can see here, as I just mentioned, we've got a path that leads around [00:05:33] the site, not only of the park itself, but into the wetland area leading [00:05:38] up towards the river, but as you make your way from your car in the [00:05:43] parking area to the playground in the park itself, we've situated the [00:05:48] elementary school play, so for the younger kids closest to that parking lot. [00:05:54] So parents with the little ones don't have to travel too far. [00:05:58] But adjacent to that, we've also... [00:06:00] This is your pointer. [00:06:01] Oh, okay. [00:06:02] Yes, let's see. [00:06:08] There we go. [00:06:09] So here's the elementary play area here for the younger kids, elementary school [00:06:14] age, and then in the middle of this sort of interlapping ovals, we've got a [00:06:21] bouldering play area for some of the middle school age kids. [00:06:27] We've implemented a ninja court for ages 13 plus, all the way through adults, [00:06:34] and we really thought it would be interesting and fun to have something [00:06:37] for the older age groups there that could be used even for bootcamp style [00:06:42] fitness classes, that type of thing as well for the adults. [00:06:47] We are revamping the picnic area with some new mulch and some picnic tables [00:06:53] there to take advantage of the existing tree shade coverage, reworking the [00:06:59] existing restroom facilities in the exact same spot, and then at the current [00:07:05] location where the basketball courts are, we are proposing three distinct pickleball [00:07:10] courts separated by a four-foot fence, and then obviously a fence surrounding as well. [00:07:19] The existing shade structure, we'll be reworking that. [00:07:22] I think it's a nice little place that you can run in if we get one of our [00:07:26] unexpected afternoon downpours, and then the small dog and large dog parks, [00:07:34] we have reworked the orientation of those a little bit just to take advantage of [00:07:38] some of that space in the corner of the site with a combination of sod and also [00:07:46] mulch in some of the muddier shaded areas where the trees might not grow as well. [00:07:52] And I'll get into some of the details of what these different zones entail, but [00:07:56] surrounding the entire park, again, we've got this nature trail that we're [00:07:59] proposing not only around the park amenities themselves, but into some of [00:08:06] the wetland areas, avoiding any of those precious trees and wildlife, making its [00:08:13] way up to a river overlook clearing here. [00:08:17] The total path length is around a quarter mile, so it's pretty easy to map [00:08:23] out if you're trying to get those steps in. [00:08:29] Here's a closer look at some of those playground areas. [00:08:33] We're proposing a new set of elementary play, you know, your slides, monkey bars, [00:08:40] that type of thing, as well as some of the newer amenities that you're seeing at [00:08:44] playgrounds these days with the spinners and, you know, some of the more fun [00:08:49] teeter-totters, that type of thing. [00:08:52] You can see a little bit closer to the bouldering area here with some ropes and [00:08:57] ladders for those middle school age kids, and then the ninja court for the [00:09:02] teenagers and adults a little bit farther out. [00:09:06] And then, of course, we've got the three different pickleball courts, picnic area, [00:09:12] and I think, let's see here, here we go. [00:09:17] On the other side, on the east side of the site, we've got the small dog and [00:09:21] large dog parks with their corresponding amenities as well. [00:09:26] Currently, there's a lot of room for the dogs to run around, but if there were to [00:09:30] be, like, a dog training class or that type of thing, we thought it would be fun [00:09:35] to have some obstacles that the dogs can weave through over around that type of [00:09:39] thing to challenge them a little bit and get some of that energy out. [00:09:47] Just going back and looking at it from a macro point of view, we have about 25 [00:09:52] benches scattered around the site. [00:09:56] We have some along the path, at the overlook, surrounding the pickleball [00:10:01] courts, of course, within the dog park, so you can watch your little guys run [00:10:07] around, and then we made sure to put a variety of benches around the elementary [00:10:12] play and middle school play areas for those parents as well. [00:10:16] We have five different water fountains, one in each dog park area that include [00:10:25] the dog watering stations as well, one at your pickleball court, one right outside [00:10:32] the restrooms, and then one in the elementary play area as well, so those [00:10:39] little kids don't need to go very far. [00:10:43] We've got some larger signage elements that we're planning for reworked near the [00:10:49] parking, and then another one outside of the playgrounds proper, and then we are [00:10:56] also adding a privacy wall outside of the restroom here to shield the view [00:11:02] directly into those stalls, which we think is important. [00:11:07] I think that about wraps up our overall plan. [00:11:10] I'd be happy to answer any questions that you might have, and again, thank you [00:11:14] for the opportunity to present. [00:11:19] Is this a sunrise or sunset park, or is it being lit, especially around the pickleball? [00:11:24] Yeah, so I think the intent is that it would be closed down at sunset. [00:11:29] It is a little bit removed from the street, so I think currently there's a [00:11:35] fence around the parking lot that's shut down, so I think moving forward, the [00:11:39] intent would be that that would stay in place. [00:11:42] I'd like us to consider possibly lighting the pickleball courts, especially when [00:11:49] you're in the wintertime and it's dark at six or something. [00:11:51] The other thing is that I have never been out to the water. [00:11:57] I've been to the park a lot, but I've never been out to the water. [00:11:59] Would it behoove us to have a kayak launch? [00:12:06] It is a good idea. [00:12:07] In fact, in the master plan, they even had a bridge over to the James E. [00:12:15] Gray Preserve, if I remember correctly. [00:12:17] Wasn't there? [00:12:19] I think there's one just down the river. [00:12:21] Pretty close by, when I was out there. [00:12:23] It's on the other side of the river, but if we had the bridge, the walking [00:12:28] bridge across to the Gray Preserve, then you'd be in an easy range of them. [00:12:32] So we can look at it. [00:12:34] Yeah, because I'm not sure the bridge, is that before or... [00:12:38] I can't place where it is across. [00:12:41] Are we past the trailer park? [00:12:44] No. [00:12:44] No, that's the next subdivision down from the meadows. [00:12:48] Then we're going to have a problem with those people and their boats then. [00:12:51] Well, wait a minute, yeah. [00:12:55] Before we do the bridge, yeah, but a kayak launch there. [00:12:58] I think it's a pretty good walk. [00:13:00] How about a service? [00:13:04] Tom Sawyer type, pulled across. [00:13:08] I didn't mean that, I'm sorry. [00:13:09] No, those are the two questions I had. [00:13:12] So the question I had was the picnic area, about how big is that area? [00:13:20] How many tables does that take care of there? [00:13:23] So let me go to, okay, this is a little bit of a zoomed in view. [00:13:26] We've currently got three picnic tables shown there, but as you can see, [00:13:30] there's room, I think you could accommodate five or so there. [00:13:35] So are any of those covered? [00:13:37] They are not. [00:13:38] There is, I mean, they're covered with the canopies from the trees above. [00:13:42] I don't know if you can see those kind of green outlines. [00:13:45] Those are your trees. [00:13:45] Is it probably the most shaded, active area of the site, [00:13:49] other than the wetlands to the north? [00:13:52] But there is a shade structure right here with a picnic table underneath. [00:13:56] There's one there. [00:13:57] There's one there, right, exactly. [00:13:58] So my thought was, and I see the location of that is closer over towards the dog park area, [00:14:05] but I was just thinking something like that. [00:14:09] Similarly, we have for Sims Park, where they can have birthday parties. [00:14:12] They reserve the stations at Sims Park, and they have the tables with a shade structure. [00:14:18] They can, you know, kids can do their birthday parties. [00:14:20] It might give them another alternative than Sims Park, [00:14:26] particularly because it's just different, you know? [00:14:29] And we have it at Great Preserve. [00:14:32] We have some at Great Preserve. [00:14:33] And Francis Avenue. [00:14:34] Yeah. So that would be my... [00:14:37] It's really a unique location, and we call it the dog park. [00:14:46] But I think that that's kind of a mislabel per se, because it's really so much more. [00:14:55] And, you know, people think, well, we're going to spend X amount of dollars on a dog. [00:15:00] Park, and people with dogs might love it, right? So, but I think we, you know, this [00:15:07] this is clearly, you're talking about, you're appealing to seniors, pickleball, [00:15:13] right? You're appealing to kids and families of all ages. You've got the [00:15:19] dogs, you've got the nature walk down to the river, and I have been down there, and [00:15:23] it is really pretty, pretty nice. It's not very far, but it is scenic once [00:15:28] you get out to the river, and it is tucked away. You know, the only bad [00:15:35] thing about it is the thing is kind of hidden, right? And I know we're gonna [00:15:39] probably open it up, make it a little easier access, but I think it's one of [00:15:43] those things that, if it gets built like that, it's gonna be really, you know, one [00:15:48] of those things like, all of a sudden somebody found a gym, right? And then the [00:15:52] world passed. So, at least I hope, and of course that's quite a bit physical [00:15:57] difference from our other parks. It's down there on our southern border, [00:16:02] right? And so, I think it really serves that part of the city well. I like [00:16:08] the approach of more shade structures. Yeah, I like, you know, adding the kayak [00:16:16] launch, and I think any place we can add one on the river is just a benefit, [00:16:20] definitely. Yeah, some more shade structures would make sense to just give [00:16:25] people an option, and I don't know what we could do with the name, but yeah, it's [00:16:27] kind of misleading, the whole dog park thing. So, has anybody ever used a dog park? [00:16:37] Yes. So, you know, my observation out there, and I appreciate the [00:16:44] term well-loved, well, the dog areas were well-loved too, because they were [00:16:49] basically sand pits. So, the question I have regarding that, and trying to, you [00:16:56] know, we think of a dog park, nice, lush, green, let them run, and you know, all that [00:17:00] kind of stuff. But, you know, I don't know, and this might go back towards, you know, [00:17:06] Roberts or Parsfield, how do we maintain that so that it doesn't develop into [00:17:14] what it is today? I've seen some dog parks use artificial grass in parts of [00:17:21] the dog park area, particularly in areas where it's hard to keep grass or [00:17:26] something to that nature, and just, that's... I'm just, I'm just, I'm just [00:17:32] rambling about observation, how are we going to maintain it? The county's done a great job [00:17:36] at Land O'Lakes, so whatever they're, whatever they did there, there's grass [00:17:40] there in the whole dog park, yeah. You can't put grass on sand and expect those [00:17:44] dogs running fast to make those big turns, and the bigger dogs will really [00:17:48] run, and they create... There's probably not a, you know, any kind of [00:17:52] watering system there either. Yeah, so something in the base that has to be [00:17:56] there to make it stronger for the hold them up from that. Now, all of those are [00:18:00] good comments. I think that the name is something that looks like the majority [00:18:05] of us agree we could find a way to show the more family park, because you got [00:18:16] children, and the pickleball is big. It's a ninja thing. It looks like you put [00:18:22] something in there, as you say, so that the whole family can come and people can [00:18:27] do whatever they do. The only thing about the launch, I think it's a great idea to [00:18:33] have this non-motorized boat traffic, whether it's, now a lot of people are on [00:18:40] the paddle boards now, as almost as much as the kayaks, but to unload and bring [00:18:47] the kayak there, I think it's more of a destination that they're going to want [00:18:51] to come, so you might want to do more like parking, you know, and like a dock [00:18:58] to come in and go to the park and play and use the bathroom or do whatever, and [00:19:03] then I don't know how much parking we have. Destination versus a launch? Yeah, [00:19:08] because look at the parking you have. If you got everybody playing pickleball and [00:19:11] you got all the dog lovers there, your parking lot doesn't look like it would [00:19:15] really stand up in a residential neighborhood to trailered, anything [00:19:21] coming in trailered is my only thought. I would think two things along the lines of what Councilman Maltin talked about. [00:19:31] The second one first, yeah, a place for the kayaks to land, maybe an artificial beach [00:19:43] or something like that where they can just pull up and secure their stuff [00:19:48] while they walk into the park, that's, I've been out there and if you're [00:19:54] humping a kayak, that's a pretty good walk from the parking lot to where you [00:20:00] would launch, in sharp contrast to the Great Preserve where basically you get [00:20:06] out of the car and within 150 feet you've got the launch area. But the other, [00:20:14] and it may take some some thinking, but you know, if we use Meadows, it may be [00:20:27] the Meadows Neighborhood Park and Dog Park or something like that, Meadows [00:20:34] Family and Dog Park or something, I don't know, hyphenated, but it, you know, [00:20:41] indicating it's not just a dog park. I think that's an excellent point that you [00:20:46] make. So we may want to rework the naming of it. People with, you know, we see, we see [00:20:57] a lot of people walk our existing parks now, or I do when I jog around the city [00:21:01] on their smaller dogs and leashes and some of the larger dogs too, but people [00:21:06] with larger dogs that like to let them run and so forth, they seek out areas [00:21:10] where they can safely let their larger dogs go and so they'll seek out a nice [00:21:18] facility like this. And I'm, and I think it's great that we allow the smaller [00:21:23] dogs around Riverfront Park and around Orange Lake, and I think we recently [00:21:28] took the signs down in Francis Park that said no dogs, right? So that people can [00:21:34] have their dogs and leashes there too. So that's, we're becoming, you know, world of [00:21:43] empty nesters and dogs, right? Right, it's true. This is a good start. If we ever do [00:21:51] the bridge, for what it's worth, any of you that go out to, happen to get out to [00:21:58] Palatka, they've got a Ravine Gardens which has a suspension bridge that must [00:22:04] be 20 or 30 feet up in the air. I wouldn't suggest we need to be that high, [00:22:09] but it wouldn't take much to do a suspension pedestrian type bridge across [00:22:15] the ravine. It's high enough that you wouldn't interfere with any of the boat [00:22:19] traffic that they've set there in the mobile home park. It wouldn't take much [00:22:24] at all. And you could tie it right into to the boardwalk system over at the Grape [00:22:31] Reserve. That being said, as we're looking at this, it's been, ever since Bill [00:22:38] Phillips was on here and had advocated the additional 10 acres or whatever, and [00:22:45] we're waiting to continue that route, you know, the connectivity of the Grape [00:22:50] Reserve to Congress Street to be able to get from Congress, and then I guess we [00:23:00] don't allow the dogs through the preserve, but for people. One of the [00:23:04] things that held us up on that project, if I remember, because we had like a [00:23:08] couple hundred thousand we were looking to spend on it, but the project became [00:23:12] too more expensive than we had the funds for or allocated for. Wasn't it the [00:23:18] bridge that had to go across a little inlet down there that was costing us so [00:23:22] much money? So we were already one bridge short of having a bridge. So if we talk [00:23:29] about this bridge, we have the other bridge. [00:23:33] Touche. Thank you very, very much. Excellent. Thanks again for having me. I appreciate it.

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   Presentation of Budget Process

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   Finance Director Ms. Manns presented the FY 2021-2022 budget preparation timeline, including upcoming work sessions for departmental budget presentations, millage rate review, and statutory public hearings. Council noted a scheduling conflict between the July 22nd budget meeting and the Main Street Awards dinner, and directed staff to reschedule and to focus presentations on changes rather than line-by-line review.

   • direction:Staff to reschedule the July 22nd budget meeting to avoid conflict with the Main Street Awards dinner and to coordinate calendars. (none)
   • direction:Department budget presentations should highlight changes from prior year rather than going line by line. (none)

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   [00:23:42] Thank you. Ms. Manns, you want to walk us through what we're going to be doing in the [00:23:47] budget process here? I will be glad to. Bring you up to date on our timeline for [00:23:55] the fiscal year 2021-2022 fiscal year. I'll remind you that we initiated our [00:24:06] budget preparation in April of 2021, and we did so by letting the budget [00:24:14] preparation manual and workbooks to all of the department heads, at which time [00:24:20] they began their study of the workbooks and Crystal Feast worked with them so [00:24:28] that they could get their workbooks completed and turned back in to her by [00:24:34] May of 2021. And at that time they started to present their preliminary [00:24:44] budget requests to the city manager, and we held budget hearings in that regard. [00:24:54] The preliminary taxable values were provided by the county appraiser in June [00:25:01] of 2021, and we started to work on our capital improvement program and [00:25:08] continued to review the departmental budgets while we awaited, and we are [00:25:16] continuing to await, a good number of the sources of state revenue. And we have [00:25:25] now received the final taxable values by the county appraiser, which brings us a [00:25:32] little bit closer to the numbers that we need and feel comfortable with so that [00:25:38] we can bring you and present to you a final budget. We do have a work session [00:25:44] scheduled with you, and we expect to be able to review our expected revenues and [00:25:51] our proposed millage for the 21-22 fiscal year on July 13th of 2021. We will [00:26:02] also be presenting to you at that time our first review of our capital [00:26:09] improvement program. On July 20th, we will start our department presentations [00:26:19] to you, and we will start with the City Council and the City Manager's budget, [00:26:24] the City Clerk's budget, economic development budget, and human resources. [00:26:31] And we will move on to Thursday, July 22nd, at which time we will present the [00:26:40] Public Works budget, Recreation and Aquatic Center budget, Library and Fire [00:26:45] Department budget. What time is that? I don't recall the time. At 20 seconds, the [00:26:56] Main Street Awards dinner. Okay, well we will have to check that. I have, I have [00:27:05] five o'clock. Six o'clock. Shade meeting's at five o'clock? Okay, we may. Budget meeting [00:27:19] scheduled. She thinks it's, I think, 7.30? Six to eight. Six to eight for Main Street? No, for the [00:27:28] budget. Budget. Main Street, 7.30 to 9. There is an overlap. On the 22nd. Okay, well we're [00:27:38] gonna need to fix that one. Like a good time for a day meeting. It sounds like a [00:27:46] really good time for a day meeting. Yeah, they've got CRAs at 1.30 and traffic [00:27:58] calming at 2.45 as part of the Main Street. Judy and I will work with your calendars and get [00:28:07] something rescheduled. That Friday may be better. I've had a one-year plan. I'm [00:28:14] gonna miss the 27th, which is fine. I mean, I'd love to get comments if I can see any [00:28:20] advance information, but I'm gone from the 23rd until the 26th, so that Thursday [00:28:26] meeting is the one I will not be at with recreation and library and whatever you [00:28:33] just showed. But I'm happy if there's document ahead of time to put my comments in writing. [00:28:44] That makes it a lot shorter. Yeah, let's try to coordinate that with what's going on with Main Street, [00:28:49] because that's the only event this season too. That's their biggest event. Okay, you'll be back on the 27th? Yes, we may want to push until Monday. I'm sure the Main [00:29:05] Street would like to see us. Could we, is it possible to double up some of these? I mean, I don't know if it's time that you [00:29:10] could bring those departments into the prior meeting or something. I don't know, [00:29:14] you'll go a bit longer. I don't know if that's something you want to do. Some of [00:29:18] them are bigger departments, so it might be a lot longer. May I suggest something? [00:29:24] You may. That, you know, as fun as it is for the department heads to go line by [00:29:29] line through everything, I think, you know, that's kind of been what happens. And so [00:29:37] just highlighting those issues, that may be pertinent. That's what they've done the [00:29:42] last few years, is the changes, not every line by line, just the changes from the [00:29:45] prior. But the changes include, well, our copy machine is out of order, and I mean, [00:29:50] I don't particularly care to hear all of that. Okay, that's a good suggestion, and we'll work with... That was your first time around. [00:30:00] Well, our current plan is to meet on Tuesday, July 27th with Police Finance Planning and [00:30:10] Development Department and Technology Solutions, and on August 3rd, we will work again on our [00:30:21] Capital Improvement Program, our CRA meeting, and a presentation of our proposed budget. [00:30:31] That's our regular meeting anyhow, isn't it? The third. Yeah. So we'll still have a 7 o'clock [00:30:37] meeting, too. Right. And then on August 10th, we will have [00:30:41] a regular meeting and ask you to approve the certification of taxable values and a tentative [00:30:47] millage rate. And then on September 9th... Oh, let's go back now. You're jumping... [00:30:54] The 10th wouldn't be a regular meeting. Yeah, but it'd be the 3rd and 17th. [00:31:00] So the 10th will be an extra meeting. Yeah. Okay, I don't know why it isn't marked [00:31:06] as a regular meeting. It's not. [00:31:09] It's not. Okay. [00:31:11] That's probably the 17th, because now you're jumping to the next month. So I think the [00:31:14] number's wrong. She probably meant to say the 17th. [00:31:17] Well, yeah. It depends on when she's got to have a... [00:31:21] Might be saying a council meeting, because it has to be an official meeting, not a work [00:31:25] session, is maybe what she's trying to say. Oh, maybe that's what she meant. [00:31:28] Not that it's... Okay. [00:31:29] Right, what she said. Yeah, Chris will... [00:31:30] She's going to probably need that before the 17th to get it to the... [00:31:31] Have to have action, perhaps. Yeah. There's a deadline to get it... [00:31:32] I know she got it right, because she put it together, and she was due to present it, but [00:31:43] she was going to present this on Tuesday, and she's got another gig tonight that she [00:31:48] needed to be at, so I'm helping her out. I know she's got it in accordance with the calendar, [00:31:54] though. She... [00:31:55] Which is statutory, and it's... [00:31:56] She's double-checked that, and it's statutory. [00:31:57] And she's not going to miss... [00:31:58] Yeah. [00:31:59] Yeah, if we need to be on the 10th, we'll be here. [00:32:02] September 9th, public hearing, tentative budget and CIP, public hearing, approved and non-ad [00:32:08] valorem assessments, and then finally, a second public hearing, adoption of the budget, the [00:32:19] CIP, and the CRA budget. And the second public hearing, the September 23rd... [00:32:28] Go back to that. Go back one more. Go back one. [00:32:34] That's a Thursday. [00:32:37] We have to make sure that it's not on the same meeting night. [00:32:42] Okay. All right. We're having something on the 7th and the 9th, and probably... [00:32:47] The 9th and the 23rd. [00:32:49] We're not having a meeting on the 7th? [00:32:52] No, we'll probably have a meeting on the 7th, a regular meeting. [00:32:56] Okay, all right. That's what I'm asking. [00:32:58] That's the one that we're going to have the increase of the city council pay on? [00:33:03] Or maybe sooner than that. [00:33:06] Maybe sooner, Peter. [00:33:10] And we'll give you an updated schedule with all the dates on it once we have it. [00:33:19] These are just her things, not the regular meetings. [00:33:23] Right. September 23rd, second public hearing of adoption of the 21-22 budget and CIP, [00:33:31] approval of the CRA budget. [00:33:39] Anything else, Nathan? We good? [00:33:42] We go on vacation October 1st. [00:33:44] We go on vacation October 1st. [00:33:46] And we're on a vacation. Right. [00:33:52] Our Thursdays are filled besides our Tuesdays. [00:33:55] If you get that one so it doesn't... [00:33:57] I will. [00:33:58] Give us all the dates on Friday.

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