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   Review of Proposed FY20-21 Budget Process, Anticipated Revenues & Departmental Budgets

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   Staff presented an overview of the FY20-21 budget process, anticipated revenues, and began departmental budget presentations starting with the Police Department. Finance Director Crystal Biest reviewed the budget calendar, proposed keeping the millage rate at 8.75 mills, and outlined property tax, special assessment, TIF, and water/sewer revenue projections. The presentation was informational with no formal vote taken.

   • direction:Management proposes keeping the millage rate at 8.75 mills for FY20-21, same as prior year. (none)
   • direction:Management proposes keeping the stormwater utility assessment rate at $80 per ERU. (none)
   • direction:Management proposes keeping the street lighting assessment at $38.71 per ERU. (none)
   • direction:Management proposes maintaining the paving assessment methodology unchanged. (none)

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   [00:00:22] away. Okay, thank you Mr. Mayor. It is that time of year again when we get to [00:00:26] begin our discussion on the annual fiscal year budget. Our fiscal year [00:00:36] commences October 1st. The budget is a document that is based on revenues and [00:00:46] expenditures and it really is an extension of your strategic plan as it [00:00:52] supports your spending priorities as it relates to services, programs, and [00:01:00] facilities. This particular budget has been difficult to put together from the [00:01:08] perspective that we do rely on revenues. Specifically, there are three state [00:01:13] revenues that we, that are major sources of funding to the city and they are the [00:01:22] state revenue sharing, the half-cent sales tax, and the communications [00:01:27] services tax. We have been advised, and correct me if I misspeak, Mrs. Feast [00:01:34] indicated that the revenues from the state are now being stated as coming out [00:01:42] somewhere between July 20th and July 24th. They haven't indicated a specific [00:01:48] date. The only thing they've indicated is that all of the funding sources won't [00:01:53] be released on the same date. That makes it very difficult to prepare a budget [00:02:00] for your consideration. I'm going to let Crystal talk a little bit more in detail [00:02:07] as she has prepared a PowerPoint for you tonight to talk about the budget process. [00:02:14] The only thing that I want to point out is that your direction has been to [00:02:22] reduce the millage rate. We've been able to do so for the last six years in a row [00:02:27] without the benefit of knowing what our revenues are going to be other than [00:02:34] property taxes. We have an idea of what they'll be. We don't know though whether [00:02:42] COVID-19 has impacted households significantly enough that they might not [00:02:48] be able to pay their taxes as they'd like to. So we're approaching this budget [00:02:56] very cautiously. The directive to the department heads has been consistently [00:03:02] to be prudent in what they ask for, and in large part they have been, and with [00:03:10] that we'll be pleased to present to you this evening a few of our budgets when [00:03:15] we'll be starting with the Chief tonight after I quiet down enough to allow [00:03:22] Mrs. Biest to begin her PowerPoint. Good afternoon. [00:03:29] Hi. All right, tonight we're going to cover the following items. So by the end [00:03:38] of the evening, management and staff hope to accomplish providing you with the [00:03:45] budget process that we will go through over the next couple of months, paint a [00:03:52] budget picture for you. We'll provide a snapshot of strategies for the upcoming [00:03:59] budget year, including discussing challenges that we expect. My discussion [00:04:05] of certain revenue sources will be included, including property taxes, [00:04:12] special assessments, tax increment funding, and water and sewer revenue. [00:04:19] Included in my discussion of property taxes, I will include a preliminary [00:04:23] proposal of a tentative millage rate, and then at the end we'll conclude with some [00:04:28] departmental budgets for your review. [00:04:36] The city's budget process began in May 2020, where budget preparation manuals [00:04:42] and workbooks were provided to each of the department heads. Included in that [00:04:49] budget workbook were expenditure amounts and revenue amounts over the last two [00:04:56] fiscal years, along with a projected amount for the current fiscal year, and [00:05:01] those numbers were used by the department head and staff to project [00:05:07] what their fiscal year 2021 budget would look like for next year. Finance also met [00:05:14] with certain department heads to discuss items that may specifically impact their [00:05:19] department, such as, you know, reduction of activity related to COVID-19, increase [00:05:26] in cost of disinfectant supplies, and certain things like that. So those types [00:05:31] of meetings were also held, and by the end of the month, completed workbooks [00:05:36] were returned back to the finance department. In June, each department head [00:05:44] and their staff, sorry I'm having trouble with this mask, each time I talk it moves, [00:05:51] each department head and their staff met with the city manager and presented [00:05:56] budget requests. June is also when the city was provided with preliminary [00:06:02] taxable values from the county appraiser's office. On July 1st, the city [00:06:12] received final taxable values from the county. The amount, which is what was used [00:06:20] to provide you with estimated revenue amounts in a subsequent slide that will [00:06:27] be presented a little bit later. July also includes the budget overview that [00:06:33] we're doing now, and then it will also include a number of work [00:06:40] sessions by the individual departments. In August, staff will bring two resolutions [00:06:50] before you for approval, one to establish a trim notice and the other to formally [00:06:55] approve a tentative millage rate. We will also conduct a CRA meeting to review [00:07:01] the proposed CRA budget and conduct a work session to go over in detail the [00:07:06] proposed capital improvement program. And finally in September, we will approve [00:07:12] the CRA budget, conduct two public hearings, one to approve the tentative budget, and then [00:07:21] the second to receive final public comment and finalize and adopt the operating budget [00:07:26] for next fiscal year. And then of course we'll distribute out the adopted budget for use [00:07:31] in the next fiscal year. As management and staff strategizes for the [00:07:39] next fiscal year, there are many factors that are considered in coming up with the budget. [00:07:44] Some of these are positives to the budget and create additional revenue and cost savings. [00:07:49] I've listed some of those here. The first is an increase in property values. [00:07:53] We do expect that based on the taxable values provided by the county. [00:08:00] Based on the millage rate, this typically means an increase in property tax revenue. [00:08:05] The second item is an anticipated 5% increase in health insurance. [00:08:11] Though this is an increase, this is much lower than most municipalities across the state [00:08:16] and is a direct reflection of negotiations done by the city manager on the city's behalf. [00:08:24] The city can also expect a reduced cost in pension benefits for police. [00:08:32] We expect a 2.9% reduction in employer contributions going from 15.9% to 13%. [00:08:42] And for the fire pension, the fiscal year 2021 required contribution will be covered [00:08:49] by previous year excess contributions. Some challenges that we face in coming up [00:09:01] with next year's budget include, as we've already alluded to, some anticipated decline [00:09:08] in state revenues, at least during the first three months of the fiscal year. [00:09:14] And that's directly related to the impact of COVID-19 on the economy. [00:09:20] The second item is a potential for collection issues of property taxes. [00:09:26] We don't quite know yet how the market conditions will affect our residents, but we can expect [00:09:34] or at least plan for some collection issues of property taxes. [00:09:40] We will be anticipating an increase in FRS employer contribution rates. [00:09:46] For regular employees, that's going to be 1.53%. [00:09:50] Senior management, there's going to be an increase of 3.41%. [00:09:55] And for drop employees, there's going to be an increase of 2.38%. [00:10:02] And finally, we're anticipating a 15% increase in our general liability property and flood [00:10:07] insurance. [00:10:14] As the city manager mentioned in the introduction, there has been a delay in state releasing [00:10:19] estimated state revenue amounts for next year. [00:10:23] As soon as we receive those estimates, they will be reported to you. [00:10:27] However, there are other resources that I can report on tonight, starting with property [00:10:32] taxes. [00:10:35] Based on the final taxable values reported, and based on keeping the millage rate at 8.75 [00:10:41] mills, we can expect property tax revenue to be $5,414,270 for fiscal year 2021. [00:10:51] This is an increase of approximately $263,000. [00:10:57] Although we understand what the impact of COVID-19 and the market conditions will have [00:11:00] on state revenues, management is proposing to keep the millage rate the same as previous [00:11:05] year. [00:11:13] This next slide outlines the city's millage rates over the last 10 years. [00:11:17] You'll see that in 2013, the millage rate was at its highest, at 9.5799 mills. [00:11:28] And in 2011, it was at its lowest, at 8.1037 mills. [00:11:34] Tonight we're proposing to keep the millage at 8.75, the same as last year. [00:11:42] But you'll note that over the last six years, we've been on a steady decline of the millage [00:11:46] rate. [00:11:47] And, again, based on what we've received from the state, in August, we may be presenting [00:11:53] to you a lower mill. [00:11:54] But at this time, we just can't—conservatively, we have to at least plan to keep it the same. [00:12:06] The next group of revenue sources are our special assessments, starting with stormwater [00:12:12] utility assessment. [00:12:16] On an annual basis, our residents and business owners are assessed a stormwater utility fee [00:12:22] based on an equivalent residential unit, or ERU. [00:12:26] The current rate for this assessment is $80 per ERU, and management is not proposing any [00:12:33] change in that rate for the upcoming tax year. [00:12:39] Based on the number of parcels within city limits and keeping the rate the same, the [00:12:43] We can expect an annual revenue of $1,114,600 for next fiscal year. [00:12:50] This is a 1.8 increase in revenue. [00:12:58] The next assessment is street lighting. [00:13:02] And again, the current rate for this assessment is $38.71 per ERU, and we're proposing that [00:13:11] that rate stay the same for the upcoming tax year. [00:13:15] And based on that rate and the number of parcels planning on being assessed, we can anticipate [00:13:22] revenue of $436,490 for next fiscal year, which is a 5.5% increase in revenue. [00:13:35] The final assessment is our paving assessment. [00:13:39] This assessment began in 2018. [00:13:45] The rate for this assessment varies by parcel type and use. [00:13:50] And management, again, is not proposing a change in the methodology for this rate or [00:13:54] this program. [00:13:56] And based on the number of parcels within the city and keeping the rate the same, we [00:14:00] can expect annual revenue of $810,120, which is an increase of 10.4%. [00:14:09] And I would like to point out that the increase that you see from year to year is not only [00:14:16] related to new parcels that are added to the program each year, but it's also related to [00:14:23] a decrease in the credits that are applied each year. [00:14:25] If you remember, at the start of this program, any residents and businesses that had previously [00:14:32] paid for a street assessment received a credit toward their annual paving assessment. [00:14:37] Some of these credits lasted one year. [00:14:39] Some of these credits will last four to five years based on how much they had previously [00:14:43] paid. [00:14:44] So as years go by, the number of credits is reduced or decreases. [00:14:50] So the more revenue that we actually can collect as part of this program. [00:15:00] The next revenue source is our TIF, our tax increment funding for the CRA fund. [00:15:09] The first TIF revenue comes from Pasco County. [00:15:15] This slide summarizes what we've received from the county over the last three years [00:15:20] and what is anticipated next fiscal year. [00:15:23] The $1,615,980 expected for next fiscal year is based on taxable values of the CRA, less [00:15:33] the neighborhoods that have been recently taken out, and the county's operating millage [00:15:38] of 7.6076 mills. [00:15:47] This slide provides TIF funding from the general fund to the CRA. [00:15:52] And it's based on the same taxable values, less the neighborhoods that were recently [00:15:59] taken out, and the millage rate of 8.75 mills. [00:16:05] So the anticipated revenue or transfer from the general fund to the CRA is $1,858,660. [00:16:23] The final revenue source is water and sewer revenue. [00:16:28] You'll see that we estimate to collect $15,119,430 next fiscal year, which is about a 3.7% increase [00:16:37] compared to prior year. [00:16:39] The estimate is based on a 4% increase in rates for residential and commercial, and [00:16:47] along with a likely reduction in bulk and irrigation rates, although that has not been [00:16:53] approved by city council yet. [00:16:56] If those are not approved, then we will obviously adjust the estimates for next year. [00:17:02] I would also like to note that by ordinance, the city relies on an annual 4% increase in [00:17:06] water and sewer rates for revenue growth. [00:17:09] Other potential areas for growth include expanding service areas and acquiring smaller surrounding [00:17:14] utility systems. [00:17:16] There are no plans for either of these being proposed for next fiscal year, however, they're [00:17:21] both ideas for the near future. [00:17:28] So now that we've covered revenue sources, I would like to go over some dates that are [00:17:32] important to the budget process, starting with tonight. [00:17:37] You'll be presented with budgets from our police department, fire department, recreation [00:17:43] and aquatics, and technology solutions. [00:17:48] And next Tuesday, you'll receive presentations by the city manager covering city council's [00:17:55] budget, the city manager's office, city clerk, and administrative services. [00:18:01] You'll also hear from our economic development department, human resources, and finance. [00:18:09] On July 28th, we'll continue with departmental presentations by public works, development, [00:18:17] and the library. [00:18:22] On August 4th, we'll discuss our capital improvement program as a work session before our regular [00:18:30] meeting. [00:18:32] And during the regular meeting, we will present to you an approval of our certification of [00:18:38] taxable values and tentative millage rate, followed by a CRA meeting to review the proposed [00:18:43] budget. [00:18:50] On September 10th is our first public hearing on the budget and CIP, followed by the second [00:18:58] public hearing on the 22nd, where we'll receive final public comment and hopefully adopt our [00:19:05] operating budget and CIP program. [00:19:08] And then we'll follow that with a CRA meeting to approve and adopt the CRA budget. [00:19:15] All right, so this is all for the presentation this evening. [00:19:21] I'll take questions before we start our department budget. [00:19:27] I have one, and I'm not sure how they drive up, but I took a note when you indicated initially [00:19:34] how much the increase in property taxes would be as a result of the estimated value. [00:19:41] I think you said an increase of $263,000, about. [00:19:46] And then when you looked at the CRA slide, you indicated that the increase in that would [00:19:50] be $158,000. [00:19:52] So that's a hundred and some thousand difference. [00:19:56] Does that recognize the removal of the increment from the two communities that we brought out? [00:20:05] Is that what makes that difference up the large part? [00:20:09] Yes. [00:20:10] Thank you. [00:20:11] So the commentary about the budget and the increase in the taxes coming in, all of that [00:20:18] increase in value goes back to the CRA, but because we've reduced a few areas, it's releasing [00:20:25] about $105,000 or something like that back to the general fund. [00:20:29] That's correct. [00:20:30] So it's not really the increase in value that's helping the general fund as much as it is [00:20:36] some relief from some of the increment that it had been previously pledged to. [00:20:41] It's actually both. [00:20:43] It is the increase in value as well as the fact that we're not transferring as much from [00:20:52] the general fund into the CRA. [00:20:56] But when you say increase in value, I mean, the base year is the base year. [00:20:59] So what we get in taxes is always for the last 30 years and the next 30 years going [00:21:04] to be that taxable value, unless somebody annexes in or the city grows. [00:21:11] So really, I'm just making a point that the stagnant general fund without the benefit [00:21:17] of that release. [00:21:21] Thank you. [00:21:24] And I realize how just how difficult it is to speak with these masks on. [00:21:29] So I apologize if I see- [00:21:32] You might try pulling the bottom of it up a little bit towards your chin. [00:21:35] That may help. [00:21:36] That would have been better. [00:21:37] There's another mask that will fit you better. [00:21:40] Before we get started on the police budget, which is the first in the lineup for you this [00:21:47] evening, I want to affirm to you that the directive to all of the department heads was [00:21:54] to produce a budget that reflected a reduction in spending from a program perspective. [00:22:04] And what we're presenting you today could very well be very different than what we present [00:22:12] to you the next time around, and that's due to the fact that we won't have our state revenues [00:22:19] till the end of the month. [00:22:21] And there may very well be some cuts that are necessitated. [00:22:26] In fact, we're expecting there to be cuts necessitated as a result of a reduction in [00:22:31] state revenues. [00:22:32] With that, go ahead and try to see what you can get, Chief. [00:22:41] Thank you for giving me an opportunity to present my budget. [00:22:47] One thing I want to say, too, is that when we- that links into what both Crystal and [00:22:52] Debbie have said, is that with my budget, there were some things that I had requested [00:22:58] that given the circumstances, Debbie has put those to the side, and I'll mention those [00:23:08] as I go through the budget when I hit those locations. [00:23:12] But because of the nature of the work that we do as police officers, a lot of our activity [00:23:18] is directly linked to the COVID situation. [00:23:23] Now, how we've done this in the past, and this was my plan for this evening, unless [00:23:29] you'd like it differently, is I thought by just going around or going down the column [00:23:35] with the budgeted amount and looking at what those things that were, it seems, a significant [00:23:43] change in those values, we ought to be able to move through this fairly rapidly. [00:23:48] The first one, and we are going to 60- my chapter, which is 61, that's going to be my [00:23:57] office. [00:23:58] It's called supervision. [00:24:00] There are three positions in there, myself and we are- I'm asking for a deputy police [00:24:07] chief, which we have approved at the last council meeting, and I have a senior administrative [00:24:12] assistant. [00:24:13] A number of the expenses that are in my budget deal with the entire department, and that's [00:24:21] why I'm keeping those in that category. [00:24:23] I'm not breaking them down individually with the other sections of the police department. [00:24:30] The first one that probably jumps out to you is going to be the division head salaries, [00:24:36] because there wasn't one, and there will be one proceeding through the rest of this year [00:24:42] and then going into the new year, and that's at $83,200. [00:24:47] There are some other things that are affected by that that may not- that I don't believe [00:24:51] are reflected in here. [00:24:55] Down under cleaning allowance, there's an additional amount that isn't in there for [00:25:00] next year, which is $780, and then a- I'm sorry, that is $500. [00:25:07] Then the education incentive pay, right above that, which would be $780, and I know these [00:25:13] aren't big numbers, but I want to mention them because they're not calculated in at [00:25:17] this point, my understanding is that's the case. [00:25:26] It pretty much stays the same. [00:25:28] Any adjustments are basically based upon the deputy chief's position, so I'm going to go [00:25:32] right to the operating expenses, if that's okay. [00:25:37] I'm assuming it is, but I don't hear an objection, I'm moving on. [00:25:42] The first category that shows any significance is $2,000 more in that professional services, [00:25:50] and the reason for that is that we have our attorney fees that is now in that category, [00:25:56] and that's our estimated amount that that would cost. [00:25:59] The- [00:26:00] Excuse me for a second there, Tim, could you, when you're going down, give us the code number, [00:26:08] at least the last three, the code number? [00:26:10] Yes, Chopper, I'm sorry I didn't do that, it would be hard for you to stay up with me [00:26:15] without me doing that, so I'm going to say down under operating, look at, and I'm going [00:26:20] to do the last four digits, it's going to be the 3199, or 3199. [00:26:38] Are you there? [00:26:39] Yes, that's all I needed. [00:26:42] I wasn't sure. [00:26:43] I mean, it's just not for you, it's not for you, it's going to be for all four departments. [00:26:48] Okay, good point. [00:26:50] Anyway, that is up $2,000, the next one that you see a significant change in is going to [00:26:59] be contractual services under 3499, it's down just a couple, and that went from the amended [00:27:07] budget for this year of $50,000, it went down to $31,000, and the reason for that is [00:27:12] because we moved $12,700 to the next unit, to Division 62, if you will, where it more [00:27:24] appropriately belonged. [00:27:28] For me, looking at this column, I don't see any other numbers that jump out significantly, [00:27:33] so unless you have something you want to zero in on, I would move to the next category. [00:27:42] And if you go to Section 62, which is going to be our police support services, and the [00:27:53] components that are part of that division are going to be dispatch, the administrative [00:27:59] lieutenant, crime scene technicians, records clerks, and our victim advocate. [00:28:15] And I'm just going to move right down to operating. [00:28:18] If you look at 4621, which is maintenance and repairs of equipment, it has gone from [00:28:27] the amended budget for this year is $1,000, it's going to $13,750. [00:28:37] And the reason for that is because the amount was moved from 61, that was that thing that [00:28:50] I said moved from the last category over here, $10,000 was for dispatch maintenance with [00:28:56] Williams Communications, and then $800 was console cleaning specialists and wire maintenance. [00:29:04] The cleaning was $800 and the wire maintenance is $1,900. [00:29:09] So those were moved into that more appropriately to be in that category. [00:29:17] The next one I see is 5225, software licenses and support. [00:29:26] And you'll see that this current year that there's nothing budgeted in that category, [00:29:31] but there's $10,500 budgeted going forward. [00:29:37] The reason for that is our file on queue, which is our record keeping for our property [00:29:50] and evidence section, and LEFTA, well that's $10,200, and then LEFTA, which is our law [00:29:57] enforcement field training software. [00:30:00] software that we use, was moved from one category [00:30:07] to like two lines down up to that. [00:30:09] And I'm gonna hit that other line in just a second. [00:30:11] You'll see that that's been reduced. [00:30:14] If you go down to 5241, whoops, [00:30:19] I think I just jumped too far here. [00:30:21] Let me get to, just one second. [00:30:23] Just one second, I'm not sure where I just jumped to. [00:30:32] 10-5 and then to. [00:30:34] Okay. [00:30:51] Line 5241, Department of Health Certifications, [00:30:57] our 911 certifications has moved also. [00:31:02] I may be talking over myself. [00:31:05] Also moved up into the software licenses [00:31:08] support area of that 5225. [00:31:11] So there was 10,000 that was moved up into that. [00:31:21] The next one is computer operating supplies. [00:31:25] Went from 6,000 to 10,750. [00:31:29] And that is because we have replaced [00:31:31] two computers in our record section [00:31:34] and we are planning to, well, [00:31:37] there's two for the crime scene technicians [00:31:38] and one for our victim advocate. [00:31:45] So with that, I don't see any other [00:31:46] significant changes in this category. [00:31:54] The next category is, we call it community services. [00:31:58] And with that, that is going to be [00:32:00] our criminal investigation division, [00:32:05] that's our detectives, [00:32:07] and also our school resource officers. [00:32:13] And I'm gonna give you an opportunity [00:32:14] to glance down there because my first [00:32:19] significant change on this one, [00:32:21] and there's only really one, [00:32:23] is all the way down to automotive parts, [00:32:26] which is 5289. [00:32:28] But we didn't have anything in personnel [00:32:30] that you wanted to bring up [00:32:31] or going right into operating? [00:32:33] Not in this, not in 63, not in CID. [00:32:37] So that is, it went from 6,850 down to 4,000 [00:32:45] for automotive parts and I think [00:32:46] with the leasing program that has been [00:32:49] discussed at council previously, [00:32:52] I think that'll be a significant reduction [00:32:55] in our overall parts because we put out [00:32:57] a lot of money for parts right now. [00:33:00] And that affects just the detective division primarily. [00:33:09] With that, I'm moving to 64, which is patrol. [00:33:14] Now, this area, more than probably [00:33:18] any other area of my department [00:33:20] is greatly affected by COVID. [00:33:24] And at the same time, I'm gonna mention [00:33:28] some things that we have begun this year [00:33:31] that were not previously funded. [00:33:33] They were not funded this year, [00:33:35] but we figured out a way to move money [00:33:38] and to do things to be able to do [00:33:39] those patrols that are downtown and in the park. [00:33:44] And also, the officers that we assign [00:33:47] to Railroad Square and our Friday [00:33:50] and Saturday night officers as a result [00:33:53] of some of the lounges there right at the [00:33:59] Nebraska and Grand Boulevard intersection [00:34:02] where we have tremendous crowds down there today. [00:34:05] So those things were basically new expenses [00:34:09] this year that we've managed to weather, [00:34:12] but they affect what we're gonna do [00:34:17] going forward into this next year. [00:34:20] So with that, [00:34:30] I need to mention that this is the area [00:34:32] where I asked for the three officers [00:34:35] and that at this point in time is on hold. [00:34:39] But the Railroad Square detail, [00:34:41] the Friday, Saturday night extra officers detail, [00:34:46] I don't intend to continue those. [00:34:48] I mean, I do intend to continue those, [00:34:51] but it is going to be a challenge going forward [00:34:54] without the officers to accommodate that. [00:34:59] This is all being done by overtime. [00:35:03] You're talking about Railroad Square, [00:35:04] the businesses that aren't really working [00:35:07] too well with the city to run a good operation [00:35:09] and to keep the undesirables out of our downtown. [00:35:14] You're talking about the two officers at the West Zone [00:35:16] or you're talking about the mountain officers? [00:35:17] We have to have, because of one or two businesses [00:35:20] downtown on Friday and Saturday nights. [00:35:23] The West Zone is one of them. [00:35:24] And then the other is separate. [00:35:26] That's what I wanted to make sure that you understood. [00:35:28] It's separate and that is because of those businesses. [00:35:31] But we also have some businesses moving into town [00:35:34] that may present some of the same challenges. [00:35:40] And I won't talk about that here, [00:35:43] but the downtown, as you know, [00:35:47] on Friday and Saturday nights, it pretty much explodes. [00:35:50] When COVID isn't going on and the bars aren't all shut down, [00:35:54] when they open back up, [00:35:56] which I don't think anyone can predict [00:35:58] even an estimate of when that may happen. [00:36:01] I'm just saying, when that does, [00:36:04] we will need officers down there [00:36:05] for the tremendous crowds that are there. [00:36:07] And it's not just those problematic bars. [00:36:10] We have so much more activity on Fridays and Saturday nights. [00:36:13] Oh, absolutely. [00:36:14] That's why. [00:36:16] Right, and we see that. [00:36:17] My point being, though, as a city, [00:36:19] we need to continue, in my opinion, [00:36:21] I'm not talking about the police department, [00:36:22] I'm talking about the city as a whole, [00:36:24] to hold these businesses accountable for their actions [00:36:27] and for who they're serving and to how they're serving [00:36:30] and what capacity they're serving. [00:36:32] Because I've seen video from your officers [00:36:35] at two o'clock in the morning outside [00:36:36] these same two businesses, and it's not pretty. [00:36:39] And it's costing the city money. [00:36:41] And I think, I know we've already started working on it. [00:36:44] I don't want us to pull back at all on those businesses [00:36:47] because the majority of businesses [00:36:50] on Friday and Saturday nights, sure, they're serving alcohol, [00:36:52] but their patrons are not the problem. [00:36:54] We know the ones that are creating the problems. [00:36:57] And it's costing the city money. [00:36:59] It's making it very uncomfortable for our officers. [00:37:02] I've seen some of the footage that they've had to deal with. [00:37:05] And I think we need to continue, as a city, [00:37:06] to clamp down on these businesses, [00:37:08] let them know what's acceptable legally, [00:37:11] the best of our ability, and what is not. [00:37:14] Because I talk to businesses surrounding these businesses, [00:37:19] and it's not pretty. [00:37:20] It's taking a lot of officers, the same two businesses, [00:37:25] especially one, every Friday and every Saturday night. [00:37:28] They shut the door down, 2 a.m., [00:37:30] and all of a sudden the streets are filled, [00:37:32] blocking traffic, fights everywhere. [00:37:35] We know who it is. [00:37:36] We need to continue to clamp down on that business [00:37:38] and do whatever we can to make them adhere [00:37:40] to what we're looking for out of a business owner [00:37:44] and property owner as well. [00:37:45] Because you're right, once COVID goes away, [00:37:49] hopefully sooner than later, [00:37:50] if the same business opens back up, [00:37:52] it's going to be right back to where it was. [00:37:53] And it's crazy, it's unacceptable [00:37:55] what I saw on your footage. [00:37:57] So, as a city, we need to stay on top of that, please. [00:38:00] We understand it's a priority, and we'll continue to do so. [00:38:04] We routinely discuss our strategies for doing that, [00:38:06] and I don't ever intend to back off. [00:38:08] We can't, because it would affect everybody downtown. [00:38:11] Just a comment. [00:38:13] I think that business has opened up already. [00:38:15] Under another owner. [00:38:18] If it's the one I'm thinking about. [00:38:20] They haven't been open since COVID hit. [00:38:23] Across from the Village Pub? [00:38:24] Yeah. [00:38:26] They were open yesterday. [00:38:27] They opened last week. [00:38:29] I think he may be correct on that. [00:38:31] I wasn't certain if that was happening or not, so. [00:38:33] Yeah, I saw that also. [00:38:34] People were coming and going in, [00:38:36] and there was business going on there. [00:38:38] You can expect the crowds to explode when COVID is, [00:38:42] as it winds down, that's all I'm saying, [00:38:44] because of the nature of what transpires there. [00:38:47] But we are not backing off of that. [00:38:49] I think we need to do our due diligence, [00:38:51] along with our city attorney, [00:38:52] to make sure that the way these businesses are operating [00:38:54] and serving alcohol adhere to the requirements [00:38:58] of the license that they carry. [00:38:59] Because there's so many different licenses [00:39:01] that bars and restaurants can carry. [00:39:03] And there may be a business operating and saying, [00:39:06] no, we're selling food. [00:39:08] Has to be at least 50 percent of the food sales. [00:39:10] I'm not sure what type of license. [00:39:11] It's not my area of expertise. [00:39:13] But I think we need to work closely with our city attorney. [00:39:15] And if someone's operating a liquor license [00:39:18] under the premise that they have to be selling [00:39:21] at least 50 percent of their overall sales to food, [00:39:24] we need to hold them to that, [00:39:26] because it's not currently happening. [00:39:28] The one thing I'm going to say about that, just so. [00:39:30] I'm not saying you're responsible or you mismanage. [00:39:32] I'm saying as a city, we need to be educated [00:39:35] as to what type of licenses are out there [00:39:37] and be sure these businesses are operating correctly [00:39:40] under those particular license in which they hold. [00:39:42] Understood. There has been some relaxing of those rules [00:39:47] by the governor and by the Department of Evacuation. [00:39:50] This is all post-COVID I'm referring to. [00:39:52] Yes. And in that case. [00:39:53] And we do work closely with beverage on that. [00:39:55] But I want everybody to know we are not the enforcement arm [00:39:58] for that aspect of the law. [00:40:01] Okay. But we do recognize our responsibility [00:40:04] and we are in communication [00:40:06] with the Department of Regulation [00:40:09] about issues that we're aware of in local establishments. [00:40:14] On top of that, let's not forget, we still have, [00:40:15] which is something I haven't heard about in a long time, [00:40:18] the chronic nuisance ordinance. [00:40:19] So I'm sure if officers are busting people with drugs on them [00:40:23] and are on the property of that establishment, [00:40:25] I'm sure at that point we can start working [00:40:27] on a chronic nuisance case as well. [00:40:29] That is correct. [00:40:31] I just want to say that a lot of times [00:40:34] a squeaky wheel gets the oil, [00:40:35] so let's continue to be a squeaky wheel. [00:40:39] I hear you, Chopper. Thank you. [00:40:43] Now, going down through police patrol, [00:40:50] which includes also the supervisor [00:40:53] that I have over code enforcement, [00:40:56] as well as the, he's actually the supervisor [00:40:59] over the school resource officers, [00:41:01] our auxiliary officers, [00:41:06] and has another officer that works directly with him, [00:41:09] and that's Eric J., which you all know. [00:41:12] And he wears quite a few hats, [00:41:14] it's kind of a catch-all area, [00:41:16] but that's included in here. [00:41:17] Eric, Karen Norris, our auxiliary officers [00:41:22] are all part of this, [00:41:23] as well as our part-time officer. [00:41:28] Now, going down this list, if you go... [00:41:33] One little just note here, [00:41:34] can I just say something there? [00:41:36] It just seems to me a lot of money [00:41:38] and overtime wages that need to be evaluated, [00:41:42] whether we need another patrolman [00:41:44] or whether they're all needed at that, [00:41:47] almost $240,000 worth of overtime. [00:41:51] That's a lot of overtime. [00:41:54] In response, we have evaluated it [00:41:57] to determine if hiring some additional full-time officers [00:42:01] would minimize the overtime expense [00:42:03] and determined that it wouldn't be enough [00:42:06] of a savings to the city to justify it. [00:42:10] I have been working with the chief, though, [00:42:14] on some of the overtime assignments, [00:42:16] and now that we've been at it for a while, [00:42:20] we can staff a little bit more appropriately [00:42:26] at the days and times [00:42:28] when it's appropriate to have staff. [00:42:29] We do, when there's less of a need, [00:42:34] we can roll off a little bit, [00:42:36] and we'll be working on a plan to do that [00:42:39] as it relates to overtime. [00:42:44] Could we, following up on those line items, [00:42:47] the off-duty pay, which is 41528, [00:42:54] I'm reading 252,000 in 19. [00:42:59] Your estimate is way down to 160, [00:43:04] and then, of course, you're showing 180 [00:43:05] for your budget this year. [00:43:08] This was, in my understanding of the hospital [00:43:11] and some of that stuff. [00:43:13] King House and... [00:43:14] You're exactly right. [00:43:16] Are you done? [00:43:17] I didn't wanna interrupt you. [00:43:21] Before COVID hit, we had a number [00:43:24] of off-duty jobs out there. [00:43:26] There were some apartment complexes [00:43:28] that hired our officers. [00:43:30] We had officers down there at Golf and 19, [00:43:35] and where they were hired by that plaza. [00:43:38] Southgate Shopping Center. [00:43:39] I'm sorry? [00:43:40] Southgate Shopping Center. [00:43:41] Yes, but yes, and then, of course, [00:43:43] our ongoing one, which has expanded. [00:43:47] They had more hours. [00:43:49] They backed off, but then now they came back [00:43:52] to the table, wanted us. [00:43:54] Once we weren't there, they wanted us back there more, [00:43:56] so that's one of the other ones [00:43:58] that's affecting that figure. [00:44:00] It's all because of COVID right now [00:44:02] that's making these numbers jump all over the place. [00:44:05] Well, the hospital has requested additional service [00:44:08] of the department. [00:44:09] The off-duty pay is a one-line item [00:44:13] that we get reimbursed for the employee expense [00:44:17] by the business that's interested in having the service. [00:44:21] Now, because of, we had asked for special events money. [00:44:29] We had actually asked for 135,000. [00:44:32] We paired that back. [00:44:34] That was paired back to 40,000. [00:44:36] I'm sorry, down to 125, [00:44:40] because we haven't had the special events, [00:44:43] and I don't anticipate those cranking back up here [00:44:47] for a while. [00:44:49] We had asked for 62 for the downtown beat, [00:44:54] and those wages, and we ended up with 40. [00:45:00] and then so I think really the next real thing that I need to mention that is absolutely [00:45:08] COVID related and could change overnight depending on when the courts open up and that is if [00:45:16] you'll go down to court standby which is 1527 that's when the officers take these cases [00:45:23] to court and they're on standby over at the courthouse because the courts have pretty [00:45:28] much closed down for many types of cases not only when COVID's done with they're going [00:45:34] to have all of a sudden it's going to shoot back up for the normal amount of cases that [00:45:39] we make but we have all this backlog that's sitting there now that's going to hit us so [00:45:45] I don't want to leave that without mentioning that to you that I'm expecting that to go [00:45:50] way up we have more arrests now than we've had let's just say up to the when COVID really [00:45:59] started settling in on us I kept coming into council meetings and bragging about the number [00:46:05] of arrests our officers were making the number of court cases that they had how it was just [00:46:09] getting bigger and bigger and bigger and I think they were working more efficiently they [00:46:14] were motivated and they still are but it's different we can't even arrest a trespasser [00:46:20] now and take it to take them to jail it's a it's in and out and we can't even they don't [00:46:25] even want to see them there so unless it's a forcible felony or something that is serious [00:46:30] where it involves injury it's pretty much the jails closed to us so I expect that will [00:46:37] be changing yeah so I think I was talking about standby time thank you I was actually [00:46:57] talking about court time so I'm getting old it's a little hard to see the I can use this [00:47:10] paper thank you very much the next one is travel and training if you go down to 40 11 [00:47:18] excuse me one question before you go on yes sir um I noticed you've got in their body [00:47:25] cameras when do you expect them to be wearing I'm looking for where that is right now listed [00:47:34] 46 431 well that's all in my capital a chopper we are in the middle of negotiating with three [00:47:51] different companies trying to figure out the best deal and also what is affordable for [00:47:56] us and I'm working with IT on that I'm anticipating it pretty soon this year that we will have [00:48:05] solid numbers on it and be able to know what direction to go in but it's something that [00:48:10] I think I'd be bringing back to counsel and okay so you don't have a set date yet that's [00:48:15] fine I just wondered where that was going no thank you and honestly I'm we're dragging [00:48:20] our feet a little a little bit I absolutely want them but I also know that this is significant [00:48:25] expense and I'm not sure where our money's going to fall so trying to be a good team [00:48:31] player but I think it is a needed tool for our officers especially given today's climate [00:48:36] I agree thank you yep the only other one that I'm seeing on the page that I'm on [00:48:55] which is going to be under automotive parts and for the same if that's 5289 you're going [00:49:01] to see that that is going from almost $39,000 down to $25,000 I think with our fleet leasing [00:49:10] agreement is just going to absolutely decimate any expense that we've had in that category [00:49:15] where is where is that where is that at least be in the budget I I don't know where [00:49:31] those amounts that we didn't really I didn't really see it in the police department that's [00:49:39] why I'm asking yep we're still working with enterprise to get those numbers and they play [00:49:44] hope to get them back to us very soon so that we can add them into the budget for those that we [00:49:49] know have been added but the majority of them at this point have not been included just yet [00:49:56] will they be in the police department will they be in general fund where will they be [00:50:01] they will be in the department that houses the vehicle so for that vehicle yep for that vehicle [00:50:07] all right thank you [00:50:15] uh the next line I mean going to the capital category if you go to line 64 13 [00:50:25] I'm trying to find it on my other page here [00:50:40] and one more they'll give you the description thank you this just got put together today [00:50:47] okay that that's going to be Toughbook laptops we're looking at a purchase of 36 of those [00:50:57] we are also utilizing monies that we have still in my budget this year to buy I think it's 15 of [00:51:07] them very shortly because that's money that already was set aside for that and we're just [00:51:16] waiting for some final figures from our IT department in order to be able to move ahead [00:51:21] with that purchase the body cameras chopper that you're asking about if you look at 64 31 [00:51:29] it's got a ballpark figure that we've managed to get on the average from the three different [00:51:38] companies that we've been talking to to where it it approximately it would be a over a period [00:51:45] of years and it looks like it may fall in the category of $75,000 but the thing to realize [00:51:55] is that the different prices for each of the companies some have cheaper less I should say [00:52:00] less expensive body cameras with limited features and they may have in-car cameras that are very [00:52:07] sophisticated that are quite expensive so we're not really sure where it's all going to sift out [00:52:12] yet and Chief Bogart is that just say it was 75,000 is that yeah that's what I saw that's what [00:52:17] I saw and that's what brought it to my mind because I'm looking forward to you know they're [00:52:22] kind of being like a support group for the police officer themselves is the 75,000 is that a one-time [00:52:30] capital purchase or is that just a lease the equipment it depends on which company so which [00:52:36] way are we leaning right now to lease just to lease the equipment honestly I'm not leaning [00:52:40] until I find out all the details on the pieces of equipment we have one company that we're liking a [00:52:46] lot um but one of their items is so outrageous that it may stop that even considering it so [00:52:56] I assume if we were to look into purchasing equipment it'd be a much higher figure than [00:52:59] the 75,000 then correct and one of the vendors that we're looking at it's a lease program but [00:53:05] it's with an option to buy at the end so we would own it at the end and I believe that's the [00:53:09] vendor that they're leaning toward [00:53:16] but something like that is there any support from the state [00:53:22] actually Debbie and I have been talking about [00:53:27] there's at least one individual that could help me chase down some grants and I was hoping to be [00:53:32] able to potentially get some grant money to be able to do that it's too late this year to do [00:53:38] anything like that but I'm hoping that maybe it could be accomplished as we go into next year the [00:53:44] only thing is is that pushes it so far away and tonight right now is when it's critically important [00:53:50] so I'm not sure of what we're going to be able to accomplish with that but I am exploring that [00:53:55] possibility we've we've seen some examples right here in the Tampa Bay area where it turns into [00:54:01] he said she said type thing and the body cams have helped exonerate the police officers from [00:54:09] from wrongdoing I look at body cameras consider one significant lawsuit yeah body cameras would [00:54:18] have been such an insignificant expense in the big scheme of things so I absolutely I was a tough [00:54:26] sell I'm sold okay I don't think I have anything else in that category worthy of mentioning unless [00:54:36] you have a question let's go to uh code enforcement and [00:54:51] the [00:54:51] only difference I really see in our projections is going to be way down at [00:55:01] $52.99 operating supplies and you'll see that this year our amended budget at this point is [00:55:08] $2,500 and we're asking for it to be bumped to $5,000 and that has to do with boarding up houses [00:55:16] where we go ahead and chase that and get it done and so that we're not having those buildings [00:55:23] opened up and I'm not sure about what level of reimbursement we may see on those but it is an [00:55:31] expense that we incur and then in capital you're asking for $14,000 for the purchase of four [00:55:40] tough books yes for your inspectors or purchase a four what [00:55:47] it's a computer system I just have a quick question of Brian if you don't mind [00:55:52] okay I didn't think it should um they already have laptops in their vehicles I think we [00:55:58] accomplished that this year it may not have been out of regular funding it could have been out of [00:56:03] one of those other accounts that I have that are uh that I have some a little bit of latitude to [00:56:09] be able to use the money for I just don't know at this point I'll be I have a comment and a [00:56:13] question um it may need Brian's help on this as well um to me I think we need to do everything [00:56:20] we can for code enforcement to make their job easier to processing violation to process violations [00:56:27] I know in years past it's you know they get the photos they go out and then it's back to the [00:56:31] office to do all the paperwork and it's really just logistics logistically slowed them down [00:56:37] from being on the street I do want to just point out because I've been talking about this over the [00:56:42] last few months that I have downloaded the city of New Port Richey app and I highly recommend that [00:56:48] all of our residents do it it's very easy to use you can click on once you download it there's one [00:56:54] two three four five six seven eight icons the seventh one down is report a problem you just [00:57:00] put your user profile in their name email address cell phone they can get ahold of you if they have [00:57:04] questions and the four subcategories are streetlight issue water break code enforcement [00:57:09] and pothole so I guess my question is relating to code enforcement if I have a slumlord who [00:57:17] owns a property four doors down from where I'm residing and he thinks it's okay once he [00:57:22] evicts somebody that that person just throws their their couch and and lazy boy and and [00:57:28] god knows what else out by the street if I take a photo of that and report it via this this app [00:57:35] who's who's on the other end who's receiving the information how often are how often are they [00:57:41] looking at it because if I reported on Monday and I got a couch out there and it's rained for a week [00:57:46] straight and then no one looks at it till Friday and then we have to start processing that we're [00:57:50] looking at another you know possibly another week before any action is taken so I guess my question [00:57:55] is well you you've heard my question who's in charge of processing this information what's the [00:58:00] time frame for someone when someone when a resident does report something via this new tool that we [00:58:06] have the city app so who's processing the info for code enforcement violations and what's the [00:58:11] turnaround time on when we can act on it so the way that we've designed the application is based [00:58:16] off workflow so as you submit based on the ticket or the problem type you report it's going to [00:58:21] workflow itself into that group directly so any of the code enforcement officers who are assigned [00:58:27] to that work group can take that ticket on and move it forward instantaneously from the moment [00:58:32] it's reported they've been trained already they haven't they have not they've not that part is [00:58:38] what's going on this week we have certain individuals we'll be working with this week [00:58:42] on the back end for staff and then moving forward by the end weekend we'll be fine [00:58:47] kind of get a get a grasp on how the process is going to work and [00:58:51] you know what kind of response time our residents can expect yep thank you [00:58:56] probably have an answer for you in a week Jeff I need you to talk a little closer to the mic [00:59:02] you're breaking up number one and the other thing is that I would like this to be an emphasis in the [00:59:07] next copy of the bridge that this is available to the public marketing this is the only way it's [00:59:14] going to work you want me to there it is I don't think my mic was on did you want me to repeat my [00:59:20] statement no no I got it it's just broken up that's what it was just yeah just kind of click [00:59:25] yeah you're a lot better thank you but anyhow I think the bridge is the way to sell this thing [00:59:31] people have to look on the website by accident [00:59:38] and it is a planned article for the next issue of the bridge [00:59:44] so [00:59:51] the last category for me is 67 which is special traffic enforcement that's our red light camera [01:00:00] And the numbers that are in here are based on estimates that finance, basically finance [01:00:11] has been able to come up with, not where I would really have much control over the actual [01:00:17] expenses. [01:00:23] And it also includes our special magistrate as well. [01:00:27] The state share, the amount that we report or provide to the state, it's revenue driven. [01:00:37] And so we've budgeted a certain amount based on what we estimate revenues for this program [01:00:41] to be. [01:00:42] But as we enforce the program more and collect more, the expense for the state shares portion [01:00:53] will also increase. [01:00:54] And so we monitor that throughout the year and we adjust both revenue and expenditures [01:01:02] as needed throughout the year. [01:01:04] Very good. [01:01:07] Any other questions for the chief? [01:01:09] Thank you. [01:01:11] Thank you very much. [01:01:12] Thank you. [01:01:13] Ms. Mance, we've hit six o'clock. [01:01:15] Should we? [01:01:16] Yes, we should, Mr. Mayor. [01:01:17] Operator, do you want me to bring you some pizza? [01:01:24] I guess not. [01:01:26] I guess not. [01:01:28] Okay. [01:01:29] What do we think? [01:01:30] Ten minutes or so? [01:01:31] I think ten minutes is plenty. [01:01:32] Okay. [01:01:33] And we'll be back in about ten minutes. [01:01:44] We'll get started. [01:01:46] Next is, I guess, fire service? [01:01:48] Fire department. [01:01:49] Okay. [01:01:50] Yes. [01:01:51] Chief Fitch. [01:01:52] Okay, thank you for the opportunity to present the budget. [01:01:56] And the first of two divisions that we're going to talk about is supervision. [01:02:03] Supervision supports a fire chief, assistant fire chief slash fire marshal, a senior administrative [01:02:09] assistant, a part-time fire inspector, and a part-time residential rental inspection [01:02:15] coordinator. [01:02:20] So on page 26, fire supervision, under personnel services, the only increase, there's actually [01:02:31] only two increases that caused the increase from $283,780 to $299,880 that we're proposing [01:02:41] is due to coal increases as well as an increase to workers' comp. [01:02:49] And I also would like to point out that the education incentive payout on 15-22 is reimbursed [01:02:56] by the state. [01:02:57] They call it supplemental compensation from the state fire college. [01:03:03] So like I said, the total personnel expenses is $299,880. [01:03:10] Down to operating, there's a little slight increase in travel training to the amended [01:03:18] amount. [01:03:19] A slight decrease in some of the utilities, telephone, $2,000 increase in water. [01:03:30] Again, use the code number, please. [01:03:34] I'm sorry. [01:03:36] Down in operating, in travel training, which is 4011, there was a slight increase of the [01:03:45] amended amount. [01:03:47] Telephone, 4121, there was a slight decrease. [01:03:52] And if you scroll down to the rest of them, stay consistent with previous years until [01:03:58] you get down to water and sewer, there was a slight increase in code number 4351. [01:04:08] Fire police AD&D insurance, 4534, which is paid every two years, I believe, Crystal. [01:04:17] So that's why that's reflected in the budget and it wasn't not in there last year for $3,800. [01:04:24] And there's a new line item, 4535 fire cancer insurance. [01:04:29] That's the insurance the city took out to cover any firefighter that could come down [01:04:37] with cancer due to Senate Bill 426, the new legislation that went into effect July 1st [01:04:44] of 2019. [01:04:46] And if you scroll down to 4799, printing and binding, that was reduced, we were able to [01:04:54] reduce that by $1,000 to $3,000. [01:04:59] Fuel went up slightly due to projected increase in fuel costs. [01:05:07] Exhaustive parts, 5289, was decreased slightly. [01:05:14] We added a line item, 5291, operating supplies disaster, and I believe some of the other [01:05:22] departments did as well. [01:05:25] Dues and memberships, 5411, we were able to reduce that by $300. [01:05:33] And 5461, books and publications, that was increased to $800 due to the fact that the [01:05:43] Florida Fire Prevention Code, the new edition, should be released next year. [01:05:48] And to stay up with current codes and standards, we need to purchase that for a total operating [01:05:55] of 88,410. [01:05:58] May I answer any questions on supervision before we go on? [01:06:09] The city raised your water and sewer bill? [01:06:12] Oh, wow, all right. [01:06:17] The next division is firefighting division. [01:06:22] That supports 21 full-time firefighter paramedics and 10 part-time firefighter EMTs. [01:06:35] Personnel division, as we scroll down to 1411 overtime, that was reduced to 40,000. [01:06:49] Full-time special events was increased by 500. [01:06:54] Again, the education incentive pay, which is 1522, that's reimbursed by the state. [01:07:01] That was increased a little bit. [01:07:03] Those are paid out to any firefighter that has college degrees. [01:07:09] And the rest of the incentive pays are all in the union contract collective bargaining [01:07:15] agreement. [01:07:19] Scroll down to 2311 health insurance, went up slightly. [01:07:25] And workers' comp, 2423, increased slightly for a total personnel expenses of 1,865,210. [01:07:40] Scroll down to operating, everything stays consistent with previous years until we get [01:07:45] to travel training, 4011, which was increased by 500. [01:07:49] As you all recall, our firefighter paramedics training and education is certification-based. [01:07:56] So we need the increase for the personnel that we have on staff to recertify their certifications. [01:08:09] Scroll down, everything stays consistent with previous years until we get to fuel again, [01:08:15] 4011, that was reduced slightly. [01:08:18] 5231 clothing and wearing apparel, we were able to reduce by $2,500. [01:08:30] Clothing residential rental inspection, we were able to reduce by $500. [01:08:34] Most of our inspectors are already outfitted with their uniforms, so we don't anticipate [01:08:41] many new purchases in that regard. [01:08:46] Computer operating supply was increased to $10,000. [01:08:51] That was due to the fact that we have some computer needs within that division, and specifically [01:08:59] you'll see in capital when we go into the computer needs, we increased that, the cradle [01:09:05] points. [01:09:06] Brian can talk more about that if there's any questions, but that's the internet connectivity [01:09:12] that each of our apparatus needs to have to maintain their MDT Toughbook computers with [01:09:20] computer-aided dispatch. [01:09:24] First aid supplies, 5247 was increased by $1,000. [01:09:30] We anticipate increased medication costs. [01:09:36] Training supplies was increased slightly. [01:09:39] We use for our training program called Target Solutions. [01:09:43] That again allows our firefighters to take online classes in-house so they don't have [01:09:50] to travel, and that program is verified and certified by the Florida State Fire College, [01:09:58] and that allows them to do their certification training online. [01:10:03] Automotive parts, 5289 was reduced by $7,000. [01:10:11] Again an added line item was 5291 operating supplies disaster, $3,000, and that gives [01:10:19] us a total operating amount of $197,200. [01:10:29] Capital expenditures for this division. [01:10:32] Can I stop you there for a second, please, Chris? [01:10:37] Sure. [01:10:38] There must be some additional costs with all this PPE equipment in here where you're going [01:10:43] to be needing to wear, not only in the past few months, but in the months to come. [01:10:47] Has that been incorporated in one of these line items here? [01:10:51] Are you talking about COVID PPE? [01:10:54] Yes. [01:10:55] It seems to me that you could probably go in six months ago when somebody's had a heart [01:11:03] attack, but now you're going much more prepared for the COVID type thing. [01:11:09] Quite honestly, we were really prepared with our PPE within the fire department. [01:11:15] We did receive some additional PPE from the EOC, but we were prepared for a first wave [01:11:23] of any kind of pandemic epidemic that came our way with masks, gowns, booties, the full [01:11:29] PPE that our firefighter paramedics wear. [01:11:33] I believe we would take those out of operating supplies disaster if we needed additional [01:11:37] items that were not supplied by the county EOC, and we also did apply for a grant here [01:11:45] recently, which would be a reimbursement grant for all the PPE that we did have to [01:11:50] purchase from the city. [01:11:56] A lot of our PPE is supplied by the county EOC. [01:12:00] Okay. [01:12:01] Thank you. [01:12:02] You're welcome. [01:12:04] Moving on to capital, the truck and trailer, $886,000 was carried over due to the fact [01:12:12] that the ladder truck is not expected to be delivered until late November, early December [01:12:17] into the next fiscal year. [01:12:21] And 6413 Toughbook laptops with stands, we anticipate purchasing five of those for each [01:12:28] of our apparatus. [01:12:30] The current Toughbooks that we have are five years old, and in the IT world, they've reached [01:12:36] the end of their lifespan. [01:12:40] 6431 Special Purpose Equipment. [01:12:44] As you recall, council agreed into a four-year contract with Zoll for defibrillators. [01:12:52] We're halfway there, so we have two more to purchase. [01:12:54] So next year, we have $32,000 for another defibrillator. [01:13:02] And then the last item is $30,000 for ladder truck equipment, which we would like to purchase [01:13:09] a set of auto extrication equipment to complement the new ladder truck. [01:13:14] There is a grant opportunity associated with that that I feel very confident that we will [01:13:20] get most of that covered. [01:13:22] Keep our fingers crossed. [01:13:26] So for a total of $964,000 in capital. [01:13:32] Questions anyone? [01:13:34] Just one. [01:13:35] For your PPE, have you had any trouble replenishing any of that stuff you used in your stockpiles? [01:13:44] We did at first. [01:13:45] So as soon as COVID-19 surfaced, we had a problem. [01:13:51] We tried to order as much PPE as we could, even though that we had enough for a first [01:13:56] wave we wanted to prepare, because everybody was having trouble getting PPE, including [01:14:03] the County Emergency Operations Center. [01:14:05] So we did. [01:14:06] And we're able to now locate PPE easily and purchase it if it's not available through [01:14:15] the EOC. [01:14:16] So at least back to where you were before? [01:14:18] We are. [01:14:19] OK, awesome. [01:14:20] Chief, thank you very much. [01:14:22] I do have a follow-up if I may make one real quickly, which is just to continue to put [01:14:28] on the record that, as it was discussed, the additional pay sometime for the men who [01:14:34] go through the extra training in order to be paramedics, advanced life support, all [01:14:40] of the skill sets that we have, it continues to boggle my mind that we have not been able [01:14:48] to have an ambulance to take our patients to the hospital when they get sick, which [01:14:52] is a large portion of the work that we do. [01:14:54] So I know we wait for somebody. [01:14:56] I know they may come sooner, some later. [01:15:00] One coming late when we could get him to the hospital is one too many late for me. [01:15:04] So I don't know if we're back around the horn again to our legislative, you know, questions. [01:15:13] But it's just disappointing. [01:15:17] I know it's not a moneymaker, but it certainly could help us to operate our equipment. [01:15:21] And we are certainly stepping up to the plate with a new station and a brand new ladder truck [01:15:26] and showing that we have the skill sets that can match up against the counties. [01:15:31] We're not a, you know, second tier organization. [01:15:36] And it really troubles me that we haven't been able to accomplish that goal. [01:15:41] You, not telling you what to do, but a lot of things are, in my opinion, [01:15:48] are able to be accomplished in private meetings. [01:15:51] Have you and Ms. Manns maybe reached out to Mr. Biles or maybe the head [01:15:55] of the Pasco County Fire Department for a private meeting to sit down [01:15:59] and let them know what your ambitions are as far as letting us? [01:16:04] Yeah, I would love to. [01:16:06] I know I had a discussion with Commissioner Wells after the one meeting we had a year ago [01:16:11] and that the city manager and I also had met with Mr. Biles way back. [01:16:17] I think I met with him individually and then we met and she has attempted. [01:16:23] The answer always is to take us over just like they took over Zephyr Hills or Dade City [01:16:30] and some, you know, lack of coordinated response. [01:16:38] I don't know. [01:16:39] Yeah, but I'm happy to do it and I appreciate the suggestion [01:16:43] and I would be the first one to say yes. [01:16:46] Yeah, because I don't disagree with you on this. [01:16:49] Like I said, just talking to firefighters I know at the county, [01:16:52] I mean the response that I get when I just, you know, speak to them candidly is [01:16:57] that they'll never give that up. [01:16:59] They make money off it. [01:17:01] So, it's something you bring up and you brought up over and over again and I'm not, [01:17:04] I'm with the Greens with you on it. [01:17:06] If we can get there first, we should be transporting. [01:17:09] Jeff, you're breaking up again. [01:17:12] I was just saying that I agree with Councilman Altman. [01:17:14] If our firefighters can be there before a county firefighter, [01:17:18] I don't, I think we should have the opportunity to transport as well. [01:17:22] But it seems like I've just heard this, like not only say over and over again, [01:17:28] but several times. [01:17:30] Annually, yeah. [01:17:31] Yeah, annually. [01:17:32] So, let's either get a direct answer like no, stop asking, we're not going to do it. [01:17:36] Or see if, you know, maybe set up another meeting and say listen, where are we at on this? [01:17:40] This could be a matter of life and death for our city residents. [01:17:44] We're putting this new fire station in. [01:17:46] We're able to transport. [01:17:48] What would it take for the county, other than you trying to take over our whole department, [01:17:52] to allow us to transport? [01:17:53] And if they just say, flat say it's not going to happen, then I think the buck stops there, right? [01:17:58] And there's, we can't really do much else, right? [01:18:01] Can we go to a state legislator? [01:18:02] Or how does that work? [01:18:03] We could. [01:18:04] Maybe we should look into that then. [01:18:06] That's what I'm saying. [01:18:06] If they can't, if they can't do it. [01:18:09] And I've never said we need to get the money. [01:18:11] I just said we need to be part of the team and we need to get our people to the hospital quickly. [01:18:16] No, I didn't say you did. [01:18:17] I just say the input that I've received is they make money off it. [01:18:22] So they're not going to give it up. [01:18:23] Yeah. [01:18:24] Even if it's worse service for our residents. [01:18:28] Yeah. [01:18:28] I'm not saying it is or it isn't, but it's just a slower service. [01:18:32] You would think if we have two fire stations in our city limits and something happened to a resident on Main Street, [01:18:38] that we could probably get there quicker than a county truck, I would imagine. [01:18:41] So, yeah. [01:18:41] Thank you for the encouragement. [01:18:43] Yeah. [01:18:43] I mean, I just, you know, I just think we should, you know, if they say no, then let's [01:18:47] see if we can go above them and then see what our options are, you know? [01:18:50] Right. [01:18:51] Because I agree with you, I think we should have the option to do it. [01:18:54] Absolutely. [01:18:55] In my experience, every time I've seen the two units roll out anywhere here in the city, [01:19:02] invariably our guys get there significantly faster. [01:19:07] I'd like to add, if I could, that in case there's any public concern out there that they're not getting an [01:19:13] adequate level of care from our firefighters, that that's totally inaccurate. [01:19:16] And I'd like to point out that our firefighter paramedics are the highest level of pre-hospital emergency [01:19:22] care that there is in the state. [01:19:24] We carry the same equipment that the county ambulances carry. [01:19:29] We carry the same medications, the same drugs. [01:19:32] And our average response time is right at four minutes. [01:19:36] So, our firefighter paramedics are arriving on the scene. [01:19:39] They're going to get that patient stabilized, depending on what the situation is. [01:19:44] And there's a standard level of care that our paramedics need to do before that patient can be transported to the hospital. [01:19:50] So, the days of arriving, and the old term was load and go, the days of throwing somebody in the ambulance and [01:19:59] taking off before anything done, those days are over. [01:20:02] So, the ER physicians want a standard level of care before that patient arrives to the door of the emergency room. [01:20:08] So, there are very few times, quite honestly, our paramedics, do they have that patient stabilized with all the standard of care done [01:20:18] before a passcode ambulance arrives on scene? [01:20:21] So, there's not really that amount of time that times that, you know, that were delayed. [01:20:27] And Chief, those protocols could be done in the ambulance, correct? [01:20:32] Rather than just on the street or at a house waiting for a transport to come, correct? [01:20:36] Some of them can be, but a lot of times it's good to have an IV started and certain protocols done before you leave the scene. [01:20:47] So, I guess if I'm standing corrected that, you know, getting in there as quick as possible, [01:20:52] let me just add that following the best practices, and so I appreciate your comments. [01:21:00] Once those best practices are done, then I think they should get to the hospital quickly. [01:21:06] And no disrespect to any paramedic, but the hospital is, for you to go from yours to transport to somebody else to the other [01:21:15] just doesn't seem the most efficient way to get somebody there. [01:21:19] If your guys were there at the hospital with the physician handing them over to the doctor [01:21:23] with all of the exploration and the information you've got, you know, then I think it's the best. [01:21:28] And I don't know, you're not disagreeing with that, you're just defending the fact that they're well managed until they get into the... [01:21:37] Correct. So, I just wanted to bring up the standard level of care that is expected... [01:21:44] And they're getting it. [01:21:45] ...when a patient arrives at the hospital, and they're getting it. [01:21:47] I appreciate it. Thank you. [01:21:48] But there are a few times, yes, that we could get the patient to the hospital quicker if we did transport, so I'm not... [01:21:54] And just looking at it like if I was a county commissioner or someone at the county level making these decisions, [01:21:59] we're talking four and a half square miles out of the entire square mileage of Pasco County. [01:22:07] It's a very, very low, small amount of jurisdiction we're asking for, you know? [01:22:14] And if we can help out outside the city limits, we'd be there to do that as well. [01:22:19] Thank you. [01:22:20] Thank you very much, Chief. [01:22:22] I'd just like to add one thing, Chief, and I'd like to thank you for letting the public know in your statement just now how efficient we are [01:22:32] and how educated and prepared we are for most any incident. [01:22:37] Thank you. [01:22:38] You're welcome. Thank you. [01:22:41] Ms. Nance, next. [01:22:42] Yep. [01:22:44] Ms. Elaine Smith is under the weather, and in her place tonight we have Mr. Chris Bornflath [01:22:50] that will represent the Recreation and Aquatic Center budgets. [01:23:10] I'll share it with you all. [01:23:16] All right. [01:23:17] Hello, everyone. [01:23:18] Thank you for having me tonight. [01:23:19] And tonight I'll be discussing our recreation budget and also our aquatic budget. [01:23:24] And if you all have any questions, please feel free to ask or chime in. [01:23:30] And just for an overview, tonight I'll be discussing the main increases and decreases for our budget this year compared to last year. [01:23:41] So without further ado, for our personnel budget for recreation, we have no new personnel requests, so it matches last year. [01:23:57] For account number 43443, contractual services, this account for instructors decreased from 35,000 last year to 30,000 this year. [01:24:09] And this goes to paying our recreation program instructors for classes. [01:24:15] For account 43474, security services, this decreased from 1,800 last year to 1,000 this year. [01:24:25] This covers our live scans for our summer camp staff. [01:24:30] 44143, cable, this decreased from 6,800 last year to 1,800 this year. [01:24:38] And the reason there was such a decrease is last year there was necessary cabling that we needed to purchase for the fitness center equipment. [01:24:47] So there's a cost savings there. [01:24:50] 44311, electric, this decreased from 125,000 to 120,000 this year. [01:25:01] In 44419, rental equipment, this decreased from 7,000 last year to 4,000 this year. [01:25:08] And this covers rental chairs, inflatables, and portalets. [01:25:14] In 44623, maintenance and repairs for the copier, this decreased from 3,800 to 1,750. [01:25:22] In 44961, special events, this increased from 5,000 last year to 6,000 this year. [01:25:29] And this covers our programs such as the Kids Zombie Run, Haunted House, and the Splash and Dash. [01:25:39] In 44965, city-sponsored programs, this decreased from 46,850 to 45,000. [01:25:48] And this account covers park and ride for our concerts. [01:25:53] We added an extra concert, so we now have seven. [01:25:57] This also covers the Cody River cleanup and free events for the city, such as our electric vehicle tailgate party. [01:26:05] In 45231, clothing and apparel, that decreased from 2,500 to 1,500. [01:26:13] In 45241, licensing, this decreased from 6,500 to 4,500. [01:26:19] This covers the public viewing rights for our family movies and music rights for our concert series as well. [01:26:29] In 45245, recreation supplies, we decreased that from 15,970 last year to 12,000. [01:26:36] And this covers all of our recreation supplies such as pickleballs for our pickleball program, [01:26:41] basketballs, crafts, and games for our children's programs. [01:26:46] In 45246, marketing supplies, this increased from 22,600 to 25,000 to help cover our marketing needs. [01:26:57] In 45299, operating supplies, this decreased from 8,000 to 7,000. [01:27:05] This is to help us purchase tables, chairs, storage racks, and items such as that. [01:27:12] In 46299, building improvements, we have 82,000 in that account. [01:27:19] And this would cover our potential locker room, floor, and shower retailing improvement project. [01:27:28] And do you have any further questions on the recreation budget for me? [01:27:33] I would just like to add that some of the reductions that have been presented to you [01:27:40] and the operating expenditures are directly related to what has happened with the rec center with COVID. [01:27:48] We have noticed a reduction in programs and activities at the recreation center and aquatic center. [01:27:55] And so we're projecting that that will be the case at least through the first three or four months of the fiscal year. [01:28:01] And so we've reduced some of the budgeted operating expenditures because of that. [01:28:06] If we do see an incline during the fiscal year, then of course we'll reevaluate and propose budget amendments to increase those line items at that point. [01:28:17] Thank you, Crystal. [01:28:20] Any other questions? [01:28:22] Thank you. [01:28:24] All right, thank you. [01:28:26] Next we have aquatics. [01:28:29] Crystal, real quick before you move on. [01:28:32] Because I remember talking about this two years ago. [01:28:36] On the capital improvement, the bollards at Kooder River Park, they'll go in 21-22 for sure. [01:28:43] Is that what's projected? [01:28:44] That's what's listed here. [01:28:45] Actually, correct me if I'm wrong. [01:28:48] I don't know what's wrong with the mic. [01:28:49] Can you hear me now, Chopper? [01:28:50] Yep. [01:28:53] Yes. [01:28:54] Okay. [01:28:55] I was just asking, according to the capital equipment improvement, it has the bollards going in at Kooder River Park along Grand Boulevard for fiscal year 21-22. [01:29:06] And I was just asking if that was still the plan. [01:29:08] Because I just remember I was talking about replacing those. [01:29:10] They've kind of got the old nasty looking rope and it looks real run down like two years ago. [01:29:16] So I was just wondering if we're still on track for that date or if we're going to be able to do it earlier. [01:29:24] I just wondered if pressure cleaning might make them look a lot better and make them last until the fiscal year 21-22. [01:29:31] The current plan is to implement improvements in 21-22 fiscal year at Kooder River Park. [01:29:43] If it's a priority, though, we can try to shift some things around and see if we can make it happen sooner. [01:29:51] I agree with Councilman Davis. [01:29:52] I was just wondering if that was still the plan. [01:29:54] But, you know, as far as the rope goes, like Councilman Davis said, maybe it's something we could just bleach or throw some grease on. [01:30:00] just make it look a little nicer than that mildewed old rope that's wrapped around the current bollards. [01:30:04] I mean, I wouldn't imagine that would cost too much money or take too much time to do. [01:30:08] And if we're going to be replacing them anyway, I know chlorine and bleach can sometimes wear down rope, [01:30:12] but it's pretty thick rope, and maybe it just buys a couple years to make it look a little nicer [01:30:16] until we're able to replace them. [01:30:18] We'll look into that. Thank you. [01:30:28] And I'll be right with you all on aquatics. [01:30:32] Sorry to interrupt and throw you off. [01:30:33] Oh, you're fine. Thank you. [01:30:40] Okay, next we have aquatics. [01:30:43] So let's see. [01:30:44] For our personnel requests, we have no new personnel requests this year. [01:30:51] In account 44-31-1 electric, this decreased from 32,000 to 25,000. [01:31:00] And the reason we had a $7,000 projected decrease is due to our new VFDs that we've recently installed, [01:31:09] our variable frequency drives, which help us to conserve money in our pump room. [01:31:17] In 45-22-1 chemicals, this increased from 24,000 to 28,000. [01:31:25] And this covers our pool chemicals, of course. [01:31:28] In 45-23-1 clothing and apparel, this decreased from 1,300 to 800. [01:31:36] In 45-29-9 operating supplies, we decreased this from 5,000 to 4,000. [01:31:44] And in 46-39-9 improvements other than building, we have $23,000. [01:31:50] And this would cover $8,000 for our new pump room electrical conduit project [01:31:57] and also $15,000 for new pool deck furniture as well. [01:32:05] Any questions, anyone? [01:32:11] I think that's a thank you very much. [01:32:12] All right. [01:32:13] Thank you very much. [01:32:14] Mr. Weed, you're up. [01:32:16] And Mr. Weed will be presenting the budget for technology solutions. [01:32:21] Thank you, Shanice. [01:32:44] Good evening, Mayor and Council. [01:32:46] As I'm going to be tonight's closer, I'll try to wrap this up quickly. [01:32:53] Overall, between my personnel and operating costs, [01:32:56] technology solutions has a less than 1% increase in its budget. [01:33:00] We did add in personnel a full-time technical support specialist [01:33:06] and removed a part-time help desk and reduced our contractual services. [01:33:13] That position will be used to help facilitate large projects, [01:33:18] large software upgrades, some GIS work, [01:33:21] and then just general support staff for the department. [01:33:29] Starting chopper for you, line item 34-99 is contractual services in our operating, [01:33:36] and there is a little over $10,000 decrease in that account. [01:33:42] Our training account went up slightly based on the new staff member position that's been added. [01:33:48] On 41-34, there's a slight increase to the data lines based on cost increases from the vendors. [01:33:58] And then the next significant decrease is in 44-29, which is our software rent, [01:34:06] and that goes down about $25,000 based on the ending of support for Sun Guard. [01:34:12] So we'll be severing our connection with our legacy ERP system. [01:34:19] With that said, if there are no questions there, I'll go into capital. [01:34:27] Under data processing equipment, we have our regular server updates [01:34:31] and replacements as we go through on an annual basis. [01:34:36] For our software initiatives in this coming year, we have an alert system, [01:34:40] which will be some panic buttons that are placed throughout different buildings, [01:34:45] along with the software that will alert our first responders when help may be needed or a situation arises. [01:34:53] We have some legacy data in an old document management database that we need to move. [01:34:59] It's not supported anymore and needs to be brought into a new software that's going to have its support, [01:35:05] as well as the new software can provide additional benefits to the city clerk for document management. [01:35:12] And then the last item there is an additional module for Tyler Technologies, [01:35:17] which relates to security enhancements revolving around the servers themselves, [01:35:23] some additional features that can be put in place to help monitor activities [01:35:27] and track communication between the software and different connection points. [01:35:34] Then under special purpose, we have our audio video control system. [01:35:40] And in this year, we're going to move forward with the replacement of the cameras that are in the council chambers [01:35:46] and move them to an SDI camera system, along with the replacement of the projectors [01:35:51] and the projector screens, which will provide a true 16 by 9 ratio, [01:35:57] instead of us having to try to condense it to fit the screens as they are currently. [01:36:02] Beyond that, if you have any questions. [01:36:05] And can we swing a couple of mics that consistently work? [01:36:09] Yes. [01:36:12] Yes. [01:36:13] I would appreciate it. [01:36:14] The Deputy Mayor would appreciate it. [01:36:16] Yes. [01:36:17] We're going to place a few of the mics. [01:36:19] Follow up to that, Mr. Mayor. [01:36:21] At the Regional Planning Council, and because there are 30 or however many members of all of the cities [01:36:28] and county officials in the five counties, they have mics that have a button that you push to speak and then not. [01:36:38] I don't know if that helps or doesn't help, but it's pretty handy. [01:36:44] It's three buttons. [01:36:45] It's speak or not speak. [01:36:50] However you, from a technology standpoint, if we do upgrade mics, I found that was pretty interesting. [01:36:56] Absolutely. [01:36:57] It cuts down on the additional feedback. [01:37:00] Any other questions, comments? [01:37:04] Mr. Weed, thank you very much. [01:37:06] Thank you. [01:37:07] Ms. Vance, anything else? [01:37:10] Mr. Mayor, we don't have anything additional this evening. [01:37:14] I'll call for communications, and I'm going to kick it off. [01:37:21] As I have told Mr. Altman on multiple occasions, he has a lot of ideas. [01:37:29] Some percentage of them are actually really good ideas. [01:37:34] I will quibble on what percentage those are. [01:37:40] The discussions that we've had preliminarily where Mr. Altman was pitching doing some sort of retail in the parking structure, [01:37:51] I quite frankly thought was probably on the non-good idea range. [01:37:58] I took the point of driving down to Clearwater Beach and looking at that north Clearwater Beach parking structure. [01:38:10] I'm going to say right up front, I'm convinced. [01:38:14] It was really neat. [01:38:16] I could see us doing something on the Acorn Street side, [01:38:23] which could make that a future pedestrian walking area that would be very attractive for that part of the downtown. [01:38:32] I'm looking forward to the discussion that we will have at next week's meeting [01:38:37] when we actually start talking about the parking structure and the design-build people. [01:38:43] I wanted to tell you that up front and to let my colleagues know about it in case they want to look up where that structure is [01:38:51] and go up and take a peek for it themselves between now and next Tuesday night. [01:38:56] Deputy Mayor? [01:38:57] I don't know if it's in the budget. [01:38:58] I just wanted to inquire about how we're coming with those Columbia fishing shirts with the new logo on them. [01:39:04] They have been ordered as far as I know. [01:39:06] Are they really? [01:39:07] I was just teasing. [01:39:08] That's great news. [01:39:09] Thank you. [01:39:10] Wonderful. [01:39:11] Mr. Murphy? [01:39:12] Nothing for me. [01:39:13] Mr. Altman? [01:39:15] I'll follow up with your comments and mention that the parking structure that's there now just to the Main Street side, [01:39:24] as much as the Acorn Corridor is interesting, there's a lot of vacancy and it's been half empty and not really utilized. [01:39:34] So in my view, the common sort of objective of the city to see things come out to Main Street is another potential opportunity, [01:39:47] whether it's connected to a parking garage or not. [01:39:51] That corridor coming in from the highway is so critical to us that I'm hopeful that we can get some interest of the existing property owners [01:40:02] as well as getting interest from outside folks who can maybe help us to see that come to fruition. [01:40:10] And along those lines, it was my desire to have these conversations with my colleagues [01:40:19] so that we can develop a good consensus and direction and have a chance to participate. [01:40:27] As you recall, when we participated with the Hacienda parking lot there, it actually was productive from our end. [01:40:35] So we are, I think, quite capable of being involved in the discussion of how that might come about. [01:40:43] And it's a tricky business because folks who want to come in and do something don't want the word to get out [01:40:50] because then the price is too high and they can't assemble the property. [01:40:54] But I think we're right at a point where we have a lot of interested local, outside, and existing property owners [01:41:01] who would be well-served by letting us tease them with some additional ideas and thoughts. [01:41:08] And along those lines, I did pass along to the city manager an offer from the Regional Planning Council [01:41:15] to take another step forward with some strategizing and thinking about that entire corner. [01:41:22] So hopefully we'll be able to speak about that at the CRA meeting. [01:41:26] If we can, I'd love to see that happen. [01:41:28] I would certainly hope so, and that was the reason I brought up what I did tonight. [01:41:32] Thank you. [01:41:33] Specifically. [01:41:34] Mr. Davis. [01:41:36] Yeah, first of all, I'd like to thank the four departments that presented tonight. [01:41:40] They were an excellent job, very well-informed, and I think gave us an excellent overlook of them. [01:41:47] One thing, though, you brought up the parking lot. [01:41:49] I'd like to see the proposed STARS [01:41:53] and maybe the list of the people that were proposing for the STARS in the parking lot [01:41:57] since it's coming along a little bit in advance of what we thought it might be. [01:42:01] Otherwise, thanks again to the four, and also thank you, Nathan and Brian,

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