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   Review of the FY2019/2020-FY2023/2024 Capital Improvement Program

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   Staff presented the FY2019/2020-FY2023/2024 Capital Improvement Program, a $17 million budget supported by six funding sources, walking council through proposed projects in the general fund (aquatics center pool deck), stormwater utility (Beach Street stormwater), and CIP fund (dog park, Gray Preserve, tennis courts, Francis Avenue Park, fire station demolition/replacement). Significant discussion centered on the proposed demolition of Fire Station #2 on High Street and whether the city should maintain one or two fire stations, with the Mayor advocating for broader discussions about fire/EMS service delivery and partnership with Pasco County for transport services.

   • direction:Council directed staff to explore alternative uses for the existing High Street fire station building, including possible reuse by public works or conversion to a neighborhood pocket park. (none)
   • direction:Council requested a separate work session on fire services delivery, including the one-vs-two fire station question and potential partnership with Pasco County for transport. (none)

   📍Beach Street and High📍Francis Avenue📍High Street📍Southern end of Congress Street🏢Burger King🏢Fleischman and Garcia👤Fitch👤Mrs. Speece👤Robert Rivera#2018 Beach Street Stormwater Improvements#2018 Gray Preserve Improvements Phase 1#2019 Francis Avenue Park Improvements#Aquatics Center Pool Deck Improvement Project#Dog Park at the Meadows improvements#FY2019/2020-FY2023/2024 Capital Improvement Program#Fire Station #2 demolition and replacement#ISO rating#Main Street drainage project#NFPA 1710#Penny for Pasco#Recreation Center Tennis Court Improvements

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   [00:00:13] The first and only item on the agenda is the review of the [00:00:17] capital improvement plan budget. [00:00:19] Thank you, Mr. [00:00:20] Mayor. [00:00:21] I will lead that off this evening and I'm at the [00:00:27] conclusion of a short presentation. [00:00:31] Robert will be introducing the projects and Mrs. [00:00:35] Speece will be talking about the financing associated with the [00:00:40] CIP program. [00:00:42] As you can see from the first slide, the program covers the [00:00:47] period 2019-2020 budget through 2023-2024. [00:00:58] Therefore, it's actually a five-year program. [00:01:01] There are various phases involved in capital improvement [00:01:05] planning to include the identification of capital and [00:01:09] maintenance expenditures, capital planning, and then [00:01:13] capital budgeting and asset management. [00:01:18] The first point that I wanted to make about a capital [00:01:25] improvement plan is that it actually has two parts. [00:01:28] It has a budget and a capital program. [00:01:32] The capital budget is the upcoming year spending plan of [00:01:35] capital items. [00:01:37] The capital program is a plan for capital expenditures that [00:01:41] extend to five years beyond a capital budget. [00:01:45] And the CIP is a plan of individual capital projects, [00:01:48] equipment purchases, and major studies in conjunction with [00:01:54] construction and completion schedules. [00:01:57] The city utilizes six funding sources to support our CIP, [00:02:06] which is a coordination of strategic planning, financial [00:02:11] capacity, as well as physical development. [00:02:15] The five sources of, I'm sorry, pardon me, the six sources of [00:02:19] funding slated to support this year's $17 million budget is the [00:02:28] general fund in the amount of $50,000, the CRA budget in the [00:02:32] amount of $1,350,000, stormwater utility in the amount of $684,000, [00:02:41] CIP, which is largely petty for PASCO, $6,250,000, the water [00:02:50] and sewer construction fund, $5,665,000, and the street [00:02:56] improvement fund at $3,200,000. [00:03:02] The great benefits of having a capital improvement program is [00:03:08] that it synchronizes capital and operating budgets. [00:03:11] It's also a very systematic way to evaluate competing demands [00:03:16] for resources based on the city's long-term goals and [00:03:20] objectives. [00:03:22] It identifies and optimizes the financing of capital projects. [00:03:27] It links the strategic planning that we do with fiscal capacity [00:03:32] and it informs and invites public participation in the [00:03:37] development of a infrastructure plan for the city. [00:03:44] You might wonder how we prepare this document and it is a [00:03:52] process that involves a team. [00:03:56] A lead department is designated in our case. [00:03:59] The lead department is the public works department through [00:04:02] Mr. Riviera. [00:04:03] Someone wrote a note today and it said that and it just stuck [00:04:14] in my head, Rivera, pardon me. [00:04:20] And Mrs. Feast works with us on the process. [00:04:26] She develops forms, criteria and schedule, and together as a [00:04:33] team, the three of us identify projects and funding options, a [00:04:37] good number of which are presented to us by the [00:04:41] department and we prepare and recommend a capital plan and [00:04:45] budget. [00:04:48] The selected projects, plans and timelines and financing summaries [00:04:54] are then compiled and we ask you as we present to you a proposed [00:05:00] budget and seek additionally public input into the process, [00:05:09] which culminates into the adoption of the capital budget [00:05:13] on an annual basis. [00:05:14] What we do is we carry over funds for projects that are [00:05:17] uncompleted at the end of a fiscal year. [00:05:23] And as indicated to you through the comments and the process, [00:05:31] that we are talking about tonight, I'm sure that you [00:05:34] recognize it's a major responsibility of ours to [00:05:40] develop the CIP program. [00:05:42] It's a working document that's updated annually to reflect [00:05:47] changing community needs, priorities and funding [00:05:50] opportunities, as well as to ensure that the decisions that [00:05:56] are made advance the city's strategic and short and [00:06:00] long-term goals. [00:06:02] In that respect, the capital program that we have in front of [00:06:06] you does not accurately reflect in our summary of construction [00:06:14] activities your priorities because we're waiting on your [00:06:17] input and then we'll update that page once we have a better idea [00:06:22] of what specific projects will be recommended for funding for [00:06:29] the following year. [00:06:31] And at this point, I'm going to turn it over to Robert and we're [00:06:36] going to talk to you about some of our proposed projects. [00:06:40] Thank you. [00:06:40] Our first project category is the general fund. [00:06:43] And as you can see, there is one capital project that's listed [00:06:47] here for the upcoming year. [00:06:49] It is the aquatics center pool deck improvement project. [00:06:53] And this project includes the removal of the existing lighting [00:06:56] system and replacing it with LED lighting around the pool deck. [00:07:02] And in addition, the replacement of existing automatic water level [00:07:05] control system and the replacement of two competitive [00:07:08] diving boards. [00:07:10] And just to help you work through the document that you [00:07:12] have before you, each fund has a summary of all of the projects [00:07:17] that are being proposed. [00:07:19] And then behind it are the descriptive pages, our [00:07:22] description pages of those projects. [00:07:25] So we'll just work from that and work from the summary pages. [00:07:29] Robert will go over the descriptions of each of the [00:07:32] projects being proposed in fiscal year 19-20, and then I'll [00:07:36] tackle the summary of the funding for those projects at [00:07:39] the bottom. [00:07:40] So we're actually on page nine right now, going over the [00:07:44] general fund. [00:07:46] That's the purple fund. [00:07:48] And the project, as was introduced by Mr. Rivera, is the [00:07:53] only project that we're recommending funding [00:07:56] consideration for from the city's general fund. [00:08:01] And the funding source for that project is penny for pasco [00:08:06] money that will be transferred from the capital improvement [00:08:09] fund to the general fund to cover the project. [00:08:18] Are there any questions at this point, or should we move [00:08:20] on, Mr. Mayor? [00:08:23] My question would be how you want to handle this. [00:08:26] Do we, we've got the document, you're going to go through [00:08:30] these, and then we talk? [00:08:33] Do we break away when we see something? [00:08:35] What do we do? [00:08:35] If you've got a question, let's go ahead and raise it. [00:08:38] Otherwise it'll be back and forth. [00:08:40] Yeah, rather than bouncing all over the place. [00:08:42] This thing has two sets of page numbers, and it's going to be [00:08:45] difficult enough to follow as it is. [00:08:47] And just so everybody knows, and I should have mentioned it [00:08:50] at the beginning, we've got a hard break at 615. [00:08:54] So wherever we are is where we'll stop. [00:08:57] So go ahead. [00:08:58] And we'll work from the page number to your far left, which [00:09:01] is the agenda page numbers. [00:09:04] All right. [00:09:05] So now we're on page 11. [00:09:06] Page 11 is the stormwater utility. [00:09:09] There are three or two projects that are called [00:09:11] out for this coming year. [00:09:12] The first one is the typical miscellaneous flood control [00:09:16] water quality projects. [00:09:18] Mostly those are reactive projects during the year. [00:09:21] Examples would be a swell maintenance type of projects [00:09:25] that the dollar amounts are what created to go [00:09:29] into our capital program. [00:09:31] We have a stormwater improvement project, the [00:09:34] 2018 Beach Street stormwater improvements. [00:09:39] And this project takes and upgrades an existing system [00:09:43] that is undersized, that starts at Beach Street and high and [00:09:50] goes out to executive. [00:09:54] And we propose to have some grant funding with this project. [00:10:00] And it would, we would anticipate that that would cause [00:10:02] us to go into, to divide this project into two, two continuous [00:10:07] phases where half of it would begin next year. [00:10:10] We would go into the following year. [00:10:14] So in the stormwater utility fund, we collect stormwater utility [00:10:19] assessments from our residents. [00:10:21] For next year, we're, we're estimating $1,085,230, along [00:10:29] with some interest revenue of $15,500 and the use of prior [00:10:34] year reserves of $495,000. [00:10:38] Of that amount, approximately $310,000 will be used for [00:10:44] personnel expenses in that fund. [00:10:48] $335,000 will be used for operating expenses and $106,000 [00:10:55] will be used for capital purchases. [00:10:57] And finally, $160,900 will be used for transfers, which leaves [00:11:03] $684,000 to fund the projects that Robert just went over. [00:11:09] So that, that fund for next year is fully balanced and will cover [00:11:15] the proposed construction projects. [00:11:21] As to the construction projects themselves, you just [00:11:24] call them miscellaneous. [00:11:25] You've rolled them out at $200,000 a year. [00:11:28] Then you've got Beach Street down there. [00:11:30] In the five-year plan, I don't see anything calling out the [00:11:35] Main Street drainage problem that we have behind the Burger King. [00:11:40] What are your plans to deal with that? [00:11:43] I can ask Mr. [00:11:44] Rivera to respond more specifically, but we have started [00:11:47] some improvements in that area and he has a plan in place, and [00:11:52] we just talked about it earlier today to remind you of the [00:11:57] Main Street drainage problem. [00:11:59] We're on the west side of 19, included in our street project [00:12:06] that we have upcoming, we're going to be doing some regrading [00:12:09] of the roads to where, where we have that S-curb. [00:12:12] We have a problem right there. [00:12:14] We have a couple inlets that we have already installed. [00:12:18] Now we need to be able to be more efficient and get more [00:12:20] water over in that direction a little bit faster. [00:12:23] So the first phase is to be able to include the reconstruction [00:12:27] of that road in that area to have more efficient stormwater [00:12:31] runoff, and then we plan on getting with the County because [00:12:35] the County has the stormwater system over there. [00:12:37] We tie into it. [00:12:38] So any other kind of improvements that we would, we [00:12:41] would need to proceed with would probably have to be a [00:12:46] County-City partnership. [00:12:48] Our next funding sources is 301 and page 15, and that calls out [00:13:06] for the engineering of some improvements for the dog park [00:13:10] at the meadows, and those improvements would include the [00:13:15] removal and replacement of the existing playground, the [00:13:17] replacement of the existing shelter, bathroom rehabilitation, [00:13:23] trail and path improvements, removal and replacement of the [00:13:26] existing fence that is there, and the installation of sod, [00:13:32] parking lot improvements, and signage improvements. [00:13:35] And we would expect that additional construction [00:13:37] would occur later years. [00:13:39] The next project that we have would be the 2018 gray preserve [00:13:47] improvements phase one, and this would include the construction [00:13:51] of the entrance and a shell parking lot at the Southern [00:13:54] end of Congress street. [00:13:56] That's the property that we recently purchased. [00:14:01] And that would be the engineering construction would begin [00:14:05] the, in the subsequent year, 2021. [00:14:10] Our next project that we have is the recreation center [00:14:13] tennis court improvements. [00:14:16] I'm sure you all are familiar with that. [00:14:19] We went ahead and we're proposing to rework the sub-base as we had [00:14:25] talked to you previously, before we had some voids underneath the [00:14:28] existing court that needs to be remediated, and so once we [00:14:33] complete that additional work would be resurfacing and striping [00:14:37] of the tennis surfaces, as well as the existing parking lot. [00:14:41] I think that parking lot's one of the oldest ones that we have. [00:14:44] It might be the last one that needs to be overlaid. [00:14:48] And then we would propose to do electrical upgrades, drainage [00:14:52] improvements, fence repair and replacements where we're needed. [00:14:58] And that would all occur. [00:15:00] next year. The following project that we have is the 2019 Francis Avenue Park [00:15:07] improvements. This would include design and construction. It would be the [00:15:13] removal replacement of the existing picnic shelters, construction of [00:15:17] sidewalks that would connect all of those shelters. We would purchase new [00:15:23] tables, trash can benches where needed, and then it would also include the [00:15:27] construction of the boardwalk that would go along the the river. [00:15:33] Are those shelters that bad of shape? They are currently in poor shape and need to be [00:15:40] replaced. The next project that we have is the fire station demolition and [00:15:50] replacement. This would be for fire station number two located on High Street. [00:15:55] It's on a different page. Page 16, I'm sorry. All the other projects you've [00:16:05] identified you haven't mentioned because they're not in the current year's budget. [00:16:09] Is that the idea? Yes, sir. [00:16:17] Why are we wasting money on this fire department number two because [00:16:22] we're going to get rid of it at some point anyhow? I don't know from you [00:16:29] collectively what your wish is for the future of the buildings and we have [00:16:37] scheduled a meeting with you to learn more so that we do go off in the right [00:16:45] direction. I don't see putting that kind of money into that fire station. [00:16:52] The specific proposal that we'll be asking you to consider calls for the [00:16:59] demolition of the High Street fire station, the establishment of a new fire [00:17:07] building in that area, and renovations to the existing fire station one. But not at [00:17:14] that location? It would not be at the High Street location, no. It's not [00:17:22] large enough to accommodate the footprint of the building. So just so I'm [00:17:28] clear, we're going to be taking down the fire station at High Street and building a [00:17:32] second station at a different location? Correct. That would be our [00:17:36] recommendation for you to consider. I have a question. Is that, I mean maybe the [00:17:42] interior of that building is substandard, but is the exterior of that building such [00:17:47] that public works could use it? It is in poor shape in general in terms of the [00:17:56] mechanical features of the building. I'd like to get more of a review of a [00:18:03] possibility of using the structure. Okay. We may be able to use it to [00:18:08] store something. I mean just, you know. And if I may, if we determine it not to be [00:18:15] useful as a building, could we look into maybe doing a neighborhood pocket park [00:18:18] there? Yes, and the property coincidentally does abut some city-owned [00:18:24] property, so it could be made a nice pocket park. There's a pocket park. [00:18:32] Expanding that. Right. What's there is not much of it. Not too much, but you know, when we hear [00:18:38] about all these experts coming in and telling us what we need to do our city [00:18:41] to improve the quality of life, that's one thing that they touched on was [00:18:44] neighborhood pocket parks. And there's a lot of different neighborhoods that [00:18:47] could kind of feed into that area, and it might be, if we can't use the building, [00:18:51] just might be another option. It also might be a portion of that building, it [00:18:55] might be downsized to be part of the park. So to the fire station, I guess [00:19:03] this is the time for me to jump in and say you've disclosed a recommendation [00:19:08] for the city to retain and continue to maintain two separate fire stations. [00:19:13] We've had no progress on whether or not our firemen can do the job they've been [00:19:18] hired to do, which is to transport people to the hospital. We've got a city [00:19:22] of Zephyr Hills that's involved right now in some kind of partnership with the [00:19:25] county fire stations, and we got a city of Dade City who's given up their fire [00:19:29] station. And so it seems to me that the way that the fire department will [00:19:35] operate into the future, and hopefully in some kind of partnership manner, so that [00:19:40] we can be most efficient with our resources, versus what we have [00:19:44] traditionally had, which is a standalone fire station, fire department, oftentimes [00:19:51] not as well coordinated, I think, with the county in terms of its responses to [00:19:55] calls as it should be. So I would think that the fire discussion needs to be how [00:20:02] will the fire services be delivered and the emergency services be delivered to [00:20:08] our residents. I am strongly advocating that our firemen get somehow the [00:20:15] ability to transport, and that, you know, we keep buying fire trucks for 800,000 [00:20:21] or more, we need an ambulance, and we need to be part of the ambulance squad, [00:20:25] and we need to be team working with the county, and I don't understand why we're [00:20:29] not. And it was a year ago that I asked you all to let us have a discussion with [00:20:34] the county, and the response I got then was, let's not aggravate them, this [00:20:39] sounded too harsh. But at some point, there really needs to be. We have all [00:20:43] these consultants and recommendations for us to continue to do things better [00:20:49] the way we're doing them. We really need to look at how we can most efficiently [00:20:53] deliver these services and protect our firemen. I understand and I respect your [00:21:00] opinion here, but that's something for another day. Not if you're telling me [00:21:04] you're going to put two fire stations in the budget, or we're going to hire that, [00:21:08] or that we're going to, I don't know that we need two fire stations. I don't know [00:21:11] that one super large fire station is the right way to go. I think the whole fire [00:21:16] services needs to be a discussion for another day. I'm with you, I don't, I'm not [00:21:19] going to say anything more about it, but just as a point of discussion, I think we [00:21:25] have unresolved issues how we're going to work together. I don't mind having [00:21:28] some discussion right now. If Mr. Fitch wants to come down and answer any [00:21:34] questions you've had. I've been told that the county has no desire whatsoever to [00:21:38] give up transport because they make too much money off of it. All right, so I mean [00:21:43] if that's their stance, you know, I think we just have to go into it with that [00:21:47] understanding as to whether or not we need one or two fire stations. Yes, I [00:21:51] agree. I mean, I think that's a discussion we need to have because I [00:21:54] still yet to hear that defined. I've seen some, I've seen some plans of maybe [00:22:01] one larger fire station near this where we're sitting right now, but I mean, where [00:22:05] are we at as a professional opinion? Do we need two fire stations? Are we going [00:22:09] to stick with one? Or, I mean, this is a very big important topic, I think, but I [00:22:14] just don't think county is going to give up transport for what I've been told. But [00:22:17] as far as ISO ratings and whatnot, whether we need one or two, then I mean [00:22:21] where are we at? I don't, I don't, in my mind, I can't remember. Someone [00:22:26] definitively telling me we're definitely going to go to two, we're [00:22:30] definitely going to do one. If we do two, where's the second location going to be? So. Yeah, we [00:22:33] we haven't told you that because we don't know that, and that's why we've [00:22:38] scheduled a work session with you so that we can go through different [00:22:44] scenarios and get your input so we can determine how to go forward. [00:22:50] Certainly, whether we have one station or two stations is a factor in our ISO [00:22:57] rating, but it does not stand alone, and there could be other improvements made [00:23:03] in our infrastructure that would minimize the impact that one station [00:23:10] would have on our ISO rating. What really is the question, and I think the chief [00:23:19] will agree, is we impact response time when we have one station over two [00:23:27] stations, and we have to be able to address the additional time that it [00:23:33] takes to get to, I think it's a north and south portions of the city, when we don't [00:23:40] have the station situated in a fashion that ensures our response time, which is [00:23:47] four minutes or less. If I could add a couple things, the city hired Fleischman [00:23:53] and Garcia back in 2015 to do a study on whether or not we needed one or two fire [00:23:59] stations. They did a very comprehensive study at that point in time, and it came [00:24:04] back that we needed two fire stations, and there were a lot of variables that [00:24:08] we were going to talk about at the upcoming work session, and the main [00:24:12] one is NFPA 1710 recommends a four-minute response time for the first [00:24:18] due engine. With the city of our size and the arteries that we have for travel [00:24:26] distances and in the busy downtown, it was recommended for two fire stations to [00:24:32] maintain that four-minute response time, and we have different graphs to show you [00:24:37] if we went to one central fire station, number one, where would that location be [00:24:43] to find that ideal location? We looked at all different options in the downtown [00:24:49] area, and there just wasn't a lot to choose from that we could [00:24:53] fit the footprint of a downtown fire station of available property, and even [00:25:00] if we did, you're going to have certain areas of the city that are going to [00:25:04] suffer that will not receive a four-minute response time. [00:25:09] I'll jump in with a question then. Does a four-minute response time assume that the [00:25:17] fire station in Magnolia Valley is not there, and the fire station on 19 is not [00:25:22] there, and just look at your two stations and their ability to respond? Because [00:25:26] it's the mutual aid thing that's aggravating me. We've got two great [00:25:30] stations. They're putting a big one on 19 on the highway, and it's just beyond my [00:25:35] comprehension that the county and the city can't be, I mean, I don't know if [00:25:42] they have four-minute response times. I don't know what their ISO rating is or [00:25:45] how that translates to the dollar on the insurance bill, but with all due [00:25:52] respect, getting to somewhere in four minutes and then waiting ten minutes or [00:25:56] five minutes for an ambulance, I'd rather have us have all of those [00:26:00] stations at our disposal. I'd rather have the city fire department running to the [00:26:05] third call, if the closest call was a county call, and have somebody managing [00:26:11] this to our benefit, and it seems as if the reporting is done. I don't know how [00:26:19] much interaction there is with that station. So these independent, you know, [00:26:25] silos, we have two great fire departments right at our disposal, and yet our [00:26:32] residents can't get to the hospital because we can't take them. It's just not [00:26:36] right. There has to be a solution to this. As far as the transported state statute [00:26:41] that gives the power to the county to determine whether or not they allow [00:26:48] municipality to do the transports. So if that's a direction that council wants to [00:26:55] pursue in the future, we, you know, we would either need to have the state [00:26:59] legislation changed. Let's get the county to agree. We have to sit down with them [00:27:04] and get them to work. What we hear third-party is good information. I'm [00:27:09] glad he shared it with us. It's different information than I heard when I met [00:27:13] with a county commissioner. And so, you know, when we meet with the county, they [00:27:18] want to meet with us once a year with the city of New Port Richey, so we really [00:27:21] don't get to get into any real details of our interactions. And this is [00:27:28] unacceptable, really. I mean, I wish we could transport as well. I mean, instead of [00:27:34] waiting for this meeting that we tried to pack so much agenda, so many agenda [00:27:39] items in between New Port Richey, New Port Richey, and the county. I mean, is there a way that we [00:27:43] can send a formal letter to Mr. Biles or the head of the county's fire [00:27:47] department and just say, you know, we are interested in transporting within our [00:27:51] city limits or working with you and both of us transporting, whichever, like [00:27:55] Councilman Altman said, you know, you're not, I'm not disagreeing with you. It [00:27:59] seems like whoever's closest should be able to get that person a hospital quick. [00:28:02] It's bottom line. Can we draft a formal letter to them and see if they would [00:28:07] even entertain the the option to do so? What's the best way to proceed with [00:28:12] getting a direct answer from the county is whether or not they would entertain [00:28:15] the notion to have us also transport rather than waiting and trying to fit it [00:28:20] in this meeting we have once a year? I did conduct a meeting with the county [00:28:28] administrator yesterday and this subject was one of my agenda items for him. So I [00:28:34] do have some idea of the county's position. He, though, will be working with [00:28:42] his elected officials to get a formal position and once that's known, I'll [00:28:47] convey that to you so that we know how to go forward. Thank you. Thank you for [00:28:53] your response. Chief. Next page, or I'm sorry, the next project that we have is [00:29:02] the conclusion of our HVAC projects that were called out in the 2017 Voltaire [00:29:10] deficiency analysis. This included the recreation and aquatic center. The final [00:29:17] phases are the control system and server upgrades and kitchen pedulum replacement. [00:29:24] The additional items that are included in this project are the removal and [00:29:29] replacement of variable air volume boxes that are in the existing HVAC systems at [00:29:35] the public works operation center and the police station. Next project that we [00:29:44] have is a stationary standby auxiliary electric power generator for ITC [00:29:51] department to where they can maintain server operations during power outages. [00:30:00] H-27 has the city hall facility renovations. [00:30:16] And we started this a few years back. [00:30:18] This is with the storm hardening and facility upgrades. [00:30:22] This phase includes the removal and replacement [00:30:26] of entryway doors, restroom upgrades, [00:30:31] and then finally the removal of the glass block [00:30:35] that is with the installation of a solid glass partition [00:30:39] located in the main lobby. [00:30:51] Next project is the library facility improvements. [00:30:54] And I'm sure you all are familiar with that one. [00:30:56] Calls for the total renovation of the library. [00:31:06] We performed a structural deficiency analysis [00:31:10] on the fleet fuel pump canopy this year. [00:31:13] The structure, according to the report, [00:31:18] needs to have major upgrades to it. [00:31:21] Preliminary cost estimates for those upgrades [00:31:25] were more than half of what a removal and replacement [00:31:28] would be for those types of canopies. [00:31:31] And so we've got that for this coming year. [00:31:40] Following project that you're also aware of [00:31:42] is the last phase to the seawall work stabilization [00:31:48] that we've been doing. [00:31:49] This phase five includes Jasmine Park. [00:31:54] And that includes the pressure washing, stabilization, [00:31:59] as well as the removal and replacement [00:32:01] of some of the sections of the existing seawall [00:32:04] that are beyond repair. [00:32:08] And it would also include seawall section caps [00:32:12] and the construction of sidewalks [00:32:14] with pavers similar to what you see down around Sims Park. [00:32:19] Page 17, we have the Gloria Swanson parking lot [00:32:36] improvements. [00:32:37] That's the parking lot that is directly east of the Hacienda. [00:32:42] And that includes additional parking spaces. [00:32:46] We've identified some of them and redesigning [00:32:48] the existing parking lot. [00:32:50] But we're also proposing to include some [00:32:53] along Grand Boulevard, Bank Street, [00:32:56] and the alley adjacent to the incubator building. [00:33:00] It would include LED exterior lighting fixtures, landscaping, [00:33:05] hardscaping, decorative paver crosswalks, [00:33:08] and two additional electric vehicle charging stations. [00:33:12] I have it scheduled for this calendar? [00:33:16] Right now, the consultant is working on the bid documents. [00:33:19] So we're going to go to bid as soon as we [00:33:21] can and start construction. [00:33:27] Doing everything we can. [00:33:28] Before the Hacienda opens, right? [00:33:30] Correct. [00:33:31] Right. [00:33:31] When is the Hacienda? [00:33:37] When is the Hacienda? [00:33:40] My last conversation with Mr. Gunderson, [00:33:44] he indicated that he thought it would likely [00:33:48] be sometime in the first quarter of 2020. [00:33:58] Yeah. [00:33:58] Ask her then. [00:34:00] And can you give me a little details [00:34:02] on these electric charging stations? [00:34:05] I noticed, looking at one, that you [00:34:07] have to go on to some app or something to get it to work. [00:34:11] Mayor, you know how these things work, I guess. [00:34:13] But can you tell me, do we track the amount of electricity [00:34:17] that comes out of them? [00:34:18] Or is there a revenue source in these eventually? [00:34:21] Or what is our deal? [00:34:23] The ones that Duke provided had no cost. [00:34:27] We're paying for the juice. [00:34:30] We're paying for the juice? [00:34:33] For what I've seen, and I can show you the app, [00:34:39] that one actually notifies me every time [00:34:41] there's one available, which sometimes [00:34:44] happens late at night. [00:34:45] I need to change that particular setting. [00:34:47] But if you drive up to it and want some electricity, [00:34:50] you have to do something to get it out of there, right? [00:34:52] There's an app on the phone that you have to use. [00:34:56] The same thing with the three charge point stations, [00:35:00] although it's a different app. [00:35:04] I don't know that we've had a whole lot of utilization. [00:35:08] They seem to come in dribs and drabs. [00:35:12] Robert could tell you exactly how many people are showing up. [00:35:17] It's, from my experience in looking at the apps, [00:35:20] it's not unusual for somebody to be charging somewhere. [00:35:24] It is very unusual for everything [00:35:27] to be in use all at the same time. [00:35:30] I mean, it's consistent, but I think what we can do [00:35:33] is we can supply you in the, in our sitting room, just report. [00:35:37] Just out of curiosity, I don't need more reports. [00:35:39] I'm just curious how it works. [00:35:41] Well, I'm just seeing what the charges would be. [00:35:43] But right now, we're not charging anybody. [00:35:46] But there's, please go ahead, Ms. Feast. [00:35:49] In the future, that is a resource of funding [00:35:52] we could utilize. [00:35:53] So we can set them to charge for that service in the future, [00:35:56] but currently they're not. [00:35:58] We do have that option. [00:35:59] And it's minimal, I understand. [00:36:00] To fill up electric is like $2 or a dollar or something? [00:36:04] Yeah, probably. [00:36:07] It just doesn't, it's almost not worth the tracking. [00:36:12] So. [00:36:13] This really speaks to the savings of gasoline, I guess, [00:36:15] if the electricity is so inexpensive. [00:36:18] I wish you'd do it repetitively, but. [00:36:20] Yeah, the electricity, I, with my car, [00:36:24] which I generally charge at home, [00:36:27] I can't see a difference in my power bill. [00:36:30] Well, I think the main benefit [00:36:31] that we have recognized from them [00:36:33] is the app that we have that these people that have it, [00:36:38] it draws people downtown. [00:36:39] I mean, to get it, yeah. [00:36:40] And we've actually had some of them take [00:36:42] and notify the mayor and let him know [00:36:44] that they stopped and had lunch [00:36:45] while they charged their vehicle. [00:36:47] One of the apps that, it's not tied directly to them, [00:36:50] but it's called, it's an app called PlugShare. [00:36:53] And people leave reviews on the units. [00:36:58] And this one in particular, here at City Hall, [00:37:02] has gotten a number of reviews, [00:37:04] including people that have come, [00:37:05] figured they'd get a quick charge [00:37:07] and go get a bite to eat, [00:37:09] and then wound up spending the whole day shopping [00:37:11] and other stuff, so. [00:37:13] Yeah. [00:37:14] Thank you. [00:37:18] Next project that we have is the. [00:37:19] You get a gas station downtown that gives away free gas. [00:37:22] Yeah. [00:37:24] We'll have wines coming in. [00:37:27] This is the wayfinding sign project phase two. [00:37:32] And I believe you're all aware of it. [00:37:33] It's just a continuation. [00:37:40] Of the 2018 Central Avenue [00:37:42] center median right-of-way improvements. [00:37:45] This includes trees, ground covering, [00:37:48] the installation of irrigation system, [00:37:50] stamped pavement bricks, widening of the sidewalks, [00:37:54] and the upgrades of the sidewalk ramps, [00:37:59] as well as the installation of the decorative lighting. [00:38:02] And that's in between the block [00:38:04] of Circle Boulevard and Adams Street. [00:38:12] And the last project that we have in the 301 fund [00:38:17] is the Marine Parkway pedestrian bridge. [00:38:19] And we're proposing any kind of right-of-way acquisition [00:38:24] that might be involved to have some funds [00:38:28] allocated for that. [00:38:32] So in the capital improvement fund for fiscal year 19-20, [00:38:37] we have programmed an estimate [00:38:40] of $2,744,450 in penny for PASCO funds, [00:38:46] $13,500 in interest revenue, [00:38:50] $3.8 million in USDA loan proceeds, [00:38:54] and a use of prior year fund balance of $580,890. [00:39:00] Of that total funding source, [00:39:03] $688,840 will be transferred to the general fund. [00:39:10] $200,000 will be transferred to the street improvement fund, [00:39:14] which leaves us with $6,250,000, [00:39:17] which is what we need to fund the construction projects [00:39:20] that were just mentioned by Robert. [00:39:33] Next category is the water and sewer construction fund, 405. [00:39:40] It's on page 35. [00:39:44] Back real quick, I'm sorry, you may have skipped it. [00:39:46] This just kind of ties into my MPO agenda [00:39:49] that I have in my lap here for Thursday, [00:39:51] so I won't disclose publicly what's on here yet, [00:39:54] because we haven't had a meeting. [00:39:55] But regarding the Marine Parkway pedestrian bridge [00:39:59] that Councilman Altman's been pushing for, [00:40:02] and I think it's very, very important as well. [00:40:04] So we've already run into a hiccup with the underpass [00:40:06] regarding whether or not we can get golf carts [00:40:09] on the underpass, right? [00:40:11] Are we gonna be looking at this and pushing for this? [00:40:14] Because you had mentioned how great it could be [00:40:15] to get all those folks that live in the county [00:40:17] or city limits on that side over. [00:40:19] Are we gonna push for that overpass [00:40:21] to be golf cart feasible? [00:40:23] Because if so, once again, we can't use DOT funding. [00:40:25] Or is it just gonna be pedestrian? [00:40:27] Because this may come up at Thursday's meeting. [00:40:31] So as a collective body, what are y'all's thoughts? [00:40:34] Do we want golf carts to be able to go over it, [00:40:36] or just by pedestrians? [00:40:37] Given that it would be safer, probably, [00:40:42] for the golf carts to go over that. [00:40:45] Reference, but if there's just a dead set, [00:40:49] no, we can't do it, that intersection is one, [00:40:53] and we've got a city employee that drives across there [00:40:57] all the time in her golf cart, [00:40:59] who's not in the room tonight. [00:41:02] But there's a bunch of people from Gulf Harbors, [00:41:05] Gulf Harbors Woodlands area, [00:41:07] that are coming across 19 at that intersection today. [00:41:16] And if we can't get them grade separated [00:41:18] by putting them on the overpass, [00:41:21] I think we've got to insist that DOT do something [00:41:23] to make it so that it's safer to go across there. [00:41:28] Y'all's thoughts? [00:41:30] I think it's, with what we've done on Marine Parkway, [00:41:34] and what possibly is gonna happen [00:41:35] on the old hospital property, [00:41:36] it's gonna be a major entrance to the city. [00:41:39] We can't get golf carts over? [00:41:41] If anybody come from the south, [00:41:42] we'll turn in there versus turning in at Main Street. [00:41:48] That being said, the pursuit ought to be [00:41:52] to be able to quantify that the cost from the DOT [00:41:56] for the bicycle connection, [00:41:59] which is a major tourism thing too, I think, [00:42:01] with the coast to coast and connecting to Pinellas Trail, [00:42:05] because that was always a big part of it. [00:42:07] But it would be nice if we could do one structure, [00:42:11] even if you divided it and said, [00:42:13] this is the motorized golf cart, [00:42:16] and now we got this whole scooter thing [00:42:18] that's coming to, who knows where that goes in the future, [00:42:21] but the state law allowing people [00:42:22] to use bike paths for scooters. [00:42:25] I don't know how the Department of Transportation [00:42:27] is now allowing motorized scooters [00:42:30] to go on bike paths as well, [00:42:32] like the coast to coast or the Pinellas Trail. [00:42:34] Is that gonna allow, [00:42:36] is that now allowing scooters on it then, I guess, [00:42:38] with the new law? [00:42:39] I'm not sure how that all works, [00:42:41] but I'd be real curious to learn. [00:42:43] But one would think we could quantify [00:42:45] and say we're only asking funding for this, [00:42:47] but maybe we build one structure, [00:42:50] and maybe it can hold the both of them, I don't know. [00:42:54] The overpasses on the Pinellas Trail, [00:42:57] and I've been in full length of that several times, [00:43:01] they're not excessively wide, [00:43:05] but you could have two golf carts meet and pass [00:43:10] with plenty of room to spare. [00:43:13] And so if the golf carts are acting sanely, [00:43:18] I guess is the word I'm looking for, [00:43:20] and behaving as they go across it, [00:43:23] it would be safe for them [00:43:24] and the bicycles and the pedestrians. [00:43:27] But point being, if the funding doesn't allow it, [00:43:29] then we'd have to come up with a plan to say, [00:43:31] well, we're not asking you to fund the golf cart part, [00:43:34] but we've got right of way, we gotta get across, [00:43:36] there could be some efficiencies of scale [00:43:38] of getting both of them together. [00:43:40] And frankly, where the city manager lives, [00:43:43] where a lot of our residents live, [00:43:45] and the ability to go back through there [00:43:47] and come out and maybe cross the river [00:43:49] and not have to deal with DOT with a golf cart over, [00:43:53] Lord knows if the old post bridge, [00:43:55] the old 19 bridge is even still an option, [00:43:58] but I still see the potential of us [00:44:00] getting across to there, across the river, [00:44:04] if we can't get a DOT under the bridge. [00:44:07] I'm just more interested in New Port Richey [00:44:10] and Fort Ritchie. [00:44:11] I agree. [00:44:12] New Port Richey, I think that's the ideal location. [00:44:14] Right. [00:44:15] We're picking spots, the golf drive and Main Street. [00:44:20] It sounds like maybe some municipalities [00:44:22] and communities should maybe get together [00:44:25] and start lobbying DOT. [00:44:27] When I look at places like, what's one up by Gainesville? [00:44:31] The villages. [00:44:32] The villages and Sun City. [00:44:36] They have golf cart paths everywhere. [00:44:38] If DOT's not willing to fund any of that, [00:44:41] I'm curious as to where they're getting their funding [00:44:43] to do so, number one. [00:44:44] And it's not like we're saying we want golf carts [00:44:46] to go north and south on 19, [00:44:48] but it looks like as we build these communities, [00:44:50] I mean, you go out to Starkey Ranch [00:44:52] and there's golf carts everywhere. [00:44:53] There's golf carts everywhere in Longleaf. [00:44:54] It's becoming like in smaller communities, [00:44:57] a preferred method of transportation. [00:45:00] I think the DOT, maybe we can look into getting some lobbying going on in Tallahassee, to bring that to their attention. [00:45:05] And it just seems like if they're just black and white, if it's golf cart affiliated, we're not giving you a penny? [00:45:11] Someone did the research for, and I showed it to Debbie, and I don't remember the whole particulars, but it has to be from community to community, or neighborhood to neighborhood, and that we can get over 19. [00:45:26] But it didn't really fit us exactly. [00:45:28] It didn't, but in response to the piece that you passed along to me, Mr. Rivera and I do have an appointment on Friday of this week with representatives from DOT to determine golf cart issues specifically. [00:45:47] And I'll have a report for you on what their position is related to funding, as well as getting people across at Marine Park. [00:45:55] There's at least one city, and I know I sent Ms. Manns the information on it, one city in Pinellas, and I think it's Dunedin, but I wouldn't swear to it, got specific approval to allow golf carts to cross a U.S. highway that went right through their city. [00:46:16] And that may be what we need to do as far as getting across 19. [00:46:25] Both in New Port Richey and New Port Richey. [00:46:27] Stronger protection, better lighting, like our flashing lights that we have now. [00:46:32] Or some sort of signalization that stops traffic all the ways while the golf carts are getting across. [00:46:39] Whatever it takes. [00:46:42] She's going to be talking to the professionals on it, so that would be interesting. [00:46:47] And just as a final point, Mayor, I know the numbers are not big, but I know it was Commissioner Oakley who commented to me when I spoke to him a year ago that he's all about getting funds for the local as long as we have skin in the game. [00:47:01] So to the degree, I'm not really sure if your capital improvement budget is utilizing all your available capital funds. [00:47:09] I don't see the carryover on that. [00:47:12] Maybe I missed it, but to the degree that we could show money in our budget so that if, in fact, we get those priorities. [00:47:21] You said we're number two priority for us. [00:47:23] I have our hand. [00:47:23] I wish this, I know the city attorney's not here during work sessions normally, but I wish I could kind of run this by him as to whether or not, I mean, this is, I don't know if this is out publicly or not, to be honest with your agenda. [00:47:36] But there's things on here regarding this overpass that we're talking to that, with my brief discussion with Ms. Vance, does not add up to the way we have things budgeted. [00:47:48] I'd like to disclose it to you all publicly if I could, but I don't know if I'm able to do that prior to the MPO meeting taking place. [00:47:54] Well, we haven't approved the budget yet. [00:47:55] So when you have your meeting and you get back with the staff. [00:47:58] Afterwards I can. [00:47:59] I would love to tell you this right now. [00:48:01] But point I'm having is if they're going to program us to happen, we ought to be ready to do it and put our skin in the game. [00:48:07] And what I'm looking at here is everything to do with what you're stating. [00:48:11] And it's not matching up. [00:48:13] There's more than just skin in the game. [00:48:16] Just the cost is going to be three million. [00:48:18] It's not going to be a million, whatever we've got. [00:48:21] This cost wasn't reflective. [00:48:23] This cost wasn't reflective of the entire cost of this thing. [00:48:26] Was it Robert? [00:48:28] No. [00:48:28] So we never anticipated paying for all of it. [00:48:31] So the question is, what do we have to show in our budget in order to get these other sources to come to us? [00:48:37] But they already have a figure here stating that we have it in our budget. [00:48:42] And I don't know if that's accurate. [00:48:43] That's my point. [00:48:44] But we have had it in our budget in the past. [00:48:46] I think it was still in there. [00:48:50] Whether or not the figure is accurate is what I'm getting at. [00:48:52] Oh, I got you. [00:48:53] But you'll tell us what we need to do. [00:48:54] I'll tell you after Thursday so I know for sure I'm alive. [00:48:56] Just to follow up with the council. [00:48:58] Fair enough. [00:48:59] Yeah, I think we need to do whatever we need to do to get the golf carts in there. [00:49:02] I mean, that's the major thing we want. [00:49:05] And if DOT's put them to fight. [00:49:06] I know our lobbyists had made comment to me that, you know, let's introduce some legislation from other people. [00:49:14] Because I'm sure we can get other people all the way around the state to back us up with that, too, because they're having the same issue. [00:49:20] So, I mean, that's one option we can do. [00:49:22] And he offered that up. [00:49:25] Yeah, there's got to be a way. [00:49:26] I mean, if the government can say, boom, we can do scooters, you know, we should be able to change things, especially in this climate where everybody is driving golf carts. [00:49:35] I mean, it doesn't seem like it's too big an ordeal to do. [00:49:39] We just have to do it. [00:49:46] This we'll find out in the next round, after Thursday. [00:49:51] We're on page 35. [00:49:52] This is water and sewer construction fund. [00:49:55] There are a lot of projects in here. [00:49:57] And I'm sure you are familiar with the ones that we have in here that are reactive projects. [00:50:03] So I'm going to skip those and just call out the projects that we actually are identifying for specific purposes. [00:50:10] And when I talk about the reactive projects, an example would be if somebody had a well where our water line was 100 feet away, their well dried up or was contaminated. [00:50:23] We need to have funds to be able to reach them. [00:50:26] And so that's why you have what we would call these miscellaneous or reactive projects in this fund source. [00:50:33] So the first project that we have is the fleet purchasing warehouse replacement project. [00:50:42] As you're familiar, we went ahead and started that task order that we came to you for about having that analysis to see if it was worth rehabbing the existing building or replacing it. [00:50:55] The engineer has recommended that replacement is a better option for us. [00:51:02] So we are proposing to do this project in, again, in a continuous two phase project over two years. [00:51:16] May I ask you a question? [00:51:18] The engineer who's telling you to replace it, he will not be the same engineer that designs it? [00:51:25] I can't tell you that right now. [00:51:26] The reason why I can't is because Florida statute says that if you are proposing to perform a project and it's going to be, I believe it is more than a certain amount of money, it could be two million or whatever it is, [00:51:43] then you have to go out for RFQ to get an engineer. [00:51:48] You have to go out to bid for the construction of the project. [00:51:52] And so while we might have McKim and Creed perform this analysis, because of what we feel the cost of the building might be, we're going to go out for an RFQ and select a consultant. [00:52:07] So that doesn't necessarily mean that they would rank ahead of someone else that maybe might have more expertise, that might have more experience in it, and that's what they do, per se, as far as that firm goes. [00:52:23] Forgetting the two million for a minute, is it your intention to competitively bid if it's under two million, would you do it differently? [00:52:31] No, sir, we would competitively bid it. [00:52:33] Well, that's the answer, because I know with the library, the library consultant comes in and says, you should do all this stuff, they'd like to be the ones maybe to design it, too, I guess when you hire an architect, and that's asking the, you know, the hen house analogy there. [00:52:52] Well, in the end, I think it's similar to the fire station, this building was built in 1973, by the time you really get into it, and you start bringing it up to current standards, you're still dealing with a building that is, you know, 50 years old or whatever. [00:53:07] Yeah, so I hear you, so there's no, yeah, I agree with you on that. [00:53:13] And just to be clear, the consultant on the library conducted a space needs assessment, and then was later contracted for design work. [00:53:23] Next project that we have is the bulk meter backflow prevention upgrades, this is a phase three, there are five phases that we've identified with the different interconnects that we have within the town tied into our system. [00:53:49] This is the one that is down off of Massachusetts Avenue on Little Road, it connects into Pasco County system, this is in case our water plant gets shut down or something, and we need that redundancy. [00:54:02] Next project is the 2019 Orangewood Lakes water system improvements, and this ties into the purchase of that system this year. [00:54:26] We will end up converting and upsizing where our existing water line is at and tying into their main line so that in the future we can upgrade for fire protection in that neighborhood. [00:54:47] Go to page 36. [00:54:56] Next project that we have is the wastewater treatment plant aeration basin permanent piping that is due to the sewage spill that we had a couple months ago that you all are familiar with. [00:55:13] This will go ahead and remediate all of those problems, we will be installing valves on every single one of those tanks to eliminate any future spills of the capacity that we had with this one. [00:55:26] If they were smart they would. [00:55:35] I didn't know you were in the industry. [00:55:37] No one has contacted us about it. [00:55:42] The next project that we have is actually in process now, it is the 2016 sewer utility system improvements. [00:55:49] This is a work that is directly related to alleviating some of the flows that we have at our master station behind the Suncoast Theater. [00:56:03] We're going to deviate some of those flows and send them down south because we've been slowly upgrading our force mains, our lift stations down that way towards Marine Parkway to help service and be more efficient on the southern end of town. [00:56:14] So that ties in to the 2018-19 sewer utility improvements which is the next project, so these two projects tie in together pretty much. [00:56:22] All right, if I may, will that help alleviate the smell that I incur sometimes when I walk down the street? [00:56:28] We have a sushi restaurant and a brand new restaurant with a rooftop bar projected to go in and it doesn't smell all that great out back there. [00:56:34] It should, that existing lift station now has an odor control unit on it, but it was one of the first generation odor control units that we had. [00:56:40] So we're going to have to do something about that. [00:56:46] All right, thank you. [00:56:51] Thank you. [00:56:56] Existing lift station now has an odor control unit on it, but it was one of the first generation odor control units to come out on the market. [00:57:05] So yes, it'll include an upgrade and hopefully reduce any of that, but to tell you the truth, it could at any time, if the system was to go down or depending on the operation of the station, you could potentially have that odor. [00:57:11] But the systems that they have now are so much better, so you should see a vast improvement. [00:57:28] I hope so. [00:57:33] It's just a really, really tough location being next to two restaurants where people dine outside. [00:57:40] So if downtown is an issue, is that all going to come through that lift station then? [00:57:45] No. [00:57:50] Well, it will, but we're upsizing and we're taking some of the flows and diverting away to help alleviate that and it will give us additional capacity to where we can. [00:57:57] We're changing pumps out, we're upsizing, it's going to be a more efficient operation. [00:58:02] So additional buildings, yes, some of it could go to that lift station, but it should be operating more efficient. [00:58:10] On my house on Delaware Avenue, on West Delaware, I'm at the top of the hill. [00:58:15] My parents bought the highest place, my mother was from St. Pete, had been through hurricanes. [00:58:20] On the left side of my house, the left lot goes to Grand Boulevard and the right side of my house facing Delaware goes to Lafayette. [00:58:31] So because it's gravity feed, I guess you've got flow going along the river. [00:58:37] Does that also then come around and make a big turn? [00:58:43] It goes down Lafayette and then swings up Louisiana and goes out towards Grand. [00:58:54] The question that I raised at a meeting a few weeks ago about our water and sewer impact fees, which were up in the several million dollars. [00:59:00] You're showing water and sewer revenues as the funding source for all of these projects. [00:59:10] Have you identified projects for those impact fees? [00:59:15] We are looking into that. [00:59:20] Right now we are going to schedule some modeling of the existing sewer system. [00:59:25] And then once we get those results, we'll be able to identify the certain neighborhoods that we are going to do the expansion where we have the septic sewer, where we have the major improvements to our system and utilize those funds. [00:59:43] You're amazed at the amount of septic areas that we have, particularly west of the highway, from New Port Richey to Trouble Creek and beyond. [00:59:49] Out to Moog Road, even out there. [00:59:54] The number of unserviced sewage areas that we have. [01:00:00] The size of our plant, the county's plant, this is another important role for the cooperation with the county as to what their intentions are in ours and our plant size. [01:00:10] So we will be utilizing those funds, but it's a catch-22 game because it's the same thing with what we had with the wastewater treatment plant when we had that break. [01:00:22] You can have something like that happen to your system, and you think that you have $3 million in your savings account and that can handle anything, and you have one break depending on where it's at. [01:00:33] It could cost a utility $10 million, and that's a drop in the bucket. [01:00:38] So having funds and making sure you have the ability to get funds and stuff is very – you've got to make sure that you're not putting all your eggs in one basket. [01:00:48] Right, but those funds are restricted, so my question is, what can they be used for? [01:00:52] So that's what we're looking at now, to be able to use those and use some of the other ones over. [01:00:57] Correct. [01:00:58] Thank you. [01:00:59] Certainly a time to talk to some of these people that are on septic. [01:01:02] One of my friends lives over in the Lakewood area east of Rowan Road and was asking me this past Friday, when are you guys going to get sewer out here? [01:01:15] He has indicated that he has now been reduced to doing Navy showers because his septic tank is so saturated because of all the rain we've had that it's just barely functioning. [01:01:30] Just imagine the whole peril of flood things if some of the sea rise comes up and we've got all these areas west of the – oh, my Lord. [01:01:37] I mean, Robert, you're the one who told me that fellows don't like to go out there off of Trouble Creek into that back area where we just serve them with water but not sewer. [01:01:47] There's not enough of them maybe to justify the cost for us to do it alone, but these environmental projects are going to become more important the more saturated the ground gets. [01:01:56] And the people that are dealing with these septic tanks that are starting to malfunction, I think, are going to be very receptive to us saying, how about we get you hooked up? [01:02:07] Mr. Mayor? [01:02:08] Yes, sir. [01:02:09] I'm sorry. [01:02:10] I just heard back from our city attorney via text message, and he said I could share this information with you tonight, so if I may, if you'll pardon me, I'd like to just backtrack. [01:02:18] The priority regional trails priority list that is set for us to approve on Thursday. [01:02:22] Number one is the Starkey Gap Trail north of SR 54, the Pinellas County line. [01:02:26] Number two is the Coastal Anklote Trail connection, Pinellas Trail, Anklote River Park, Gulf Park, back there on the west side of 19. [01:02:32] Number three is the Suncoast Parkway overpass for bikes and pedestrians, which is very much needed. [01:02:37] US 19 overpass is number four, and then number five is the Starkey Trail pedestrian overpass at Longleaf. [01:02:44] But I had to fight very, very hard to get US 19 overpass prioritized above the Starkey Trail pedestrian overpass. [01:02:52] But the conflict that I was just showing Ms. Manns is they currently have the city 1.25 of Newport County for Pasco budgeted for that project. [01:03:00] And according to Ms. Manns, that's not accurate with our budget. [01:03:03] So I'm going to have to. [01:03:05] Well, our current budget. [01:03:08] Correct. [01:03:09] Correct. [01:03:11] We're proposing our 18-19, aren't we? [01:03:15] Right, yes. [01:03:17] So are we okay with the way this is worded, though? [01:03:20] It will have to be put in the budget. [01:03:23] Is there a year of completion for it, are they telling us? [01:03:26] That would be nice. [01:03:27] So we could put it out in a few years. [01:03:29] I mean, this capital improvement plan is not fully filled in out here. [01:03:32] So, you know, I'm not sure where they get. [01:03:34] So we're okay committing 1.25 of Pennant-Pasco for this overpass is my question. [01:03:40] I'm not saying it's budgeted for next year or anything like that. [01:03:43] I am. [01:03:44] We're putting it in future years, so I don't have a problem with that. [01:03:47] We've got a million six for storage for your pipes out there at the storage thing. [01:03:52] We could buy the pipes when we need them, I guess, if we can save the million six. [01:03:56] But we need the storage, and I'm just being silly. [01:03:58] I just want to be sure we're on the same page. [01:04:00] It sounds like a big number, but it isn't a big number. [01:04:04] Okay. [01:04:07] Sorry to backtrack. [01:04:08] No, no, thank you. [01:04:10] What was the number two project for the overpass? [01:04:14] Starkey Gap Trail, number one, from 54 Pinellas. [01:04:16] Number two is Coastal Anclote Trail Connection, Pinellas Trail, [01:04:19] west 19th of the Anclote Park back there. [01:04:22] Number three is the Suncoast Overpass at the Suncoast Expressway and 54. [01:04:27] What are they crossing for the Anclote Park? [01:04:30] Anclote Park? [01:04:31] It says… [01:04:32] Connection to… [01:04:33] Connection, Pinellas Trail, Coastal Anclote Trail Connection. [01:04:36] Coastal Trail Connection is not an overpass. [01:04:38] No, no, the only three overpasses in here are Suncoast, Parkway, [01:04:41] US 19 Overpass, Marine, and then the… [01:04:43] Well, that's great because number two really feeds into us, doesn't it? [01:04:46] Yes, it does. [01:04:47] So that's perfect. [01:04:48] Yeah, that's good for us. [01:04:49] Yeah. [01:04:50] All right. [01:04:51] Thank you. [01:04:57] The last project that we have is the Orangewood Lakes Forest Main Interconnect, [01:05:02] and this takes and defers or disconnects from their existing wastewater treatment plant, [01:05:08] and we run a new forest main down Olsteen Road and tie it into our 12-inch off of Mass Avenue, [01:05:14] and then we've tied everything into the system. [01:05:19] So in total for next year's proposal, we're requesting $5,665,000 in construction funds, [01:05:31] and we're estimating to have a total of $6,082,000 to use for next year. [01:05:38] $300,000 of that is a transfer from Water and Sewer Revenue Fund. [01:05:44] $2,565,000 will come from bond proceeds that we've already received [01:05:51] and that are dedicated to these construction projects, [01:05:54] and then a rollover of fund balance of $3.2 million. [01:05:59] In the previous years, we've had to defer some of these water and sewer construction projects, [01:06:05] anticipating bond proceeds. [01:06:07] So now that we have it, we have that buildup of reserves plus the proceeds built up [01:06:13] so that we can get these construction projects done. [01:06:20] The next section is the Redevelopment Fund, and I believe we talked about this last week. [01:06:26] I'm not sure if you guys have any questions, if you just want to ask us, [01:06:30] and we can move to the next section. [01:06:33] I do have a comment to make. [01:06:34] I'll just repeat the one I made last time, which is when you have something called land acquisition, [01:06:40] and I know we had it for the crossover, but land acquisition for redevelopment [01:06:46] as part of public-private partnerships is you're not going to buy much of anything for $100,000. [01:06:52] You can't even buy a house in town for $100,000. [01:06:54] So these numbers are reflective of the revenue stream we have, [01:06:59] and I'm hoping that we could get an expert to come help us to analyze the cash flow. [01:07:07] I know years ago I had proposed that some of these projects be funded over time, [01:07:14] and that budget was approved, but none of that ever happened. [01:07:19] We think it's important for us to have some projections about the expected results [01:07:25] and the usefulness of any major projects that might be coming. [01:07:30] I know that there are some that are talking to the city now, and so this is something that may come up, [01:07:37] but we can't anticipate it because we don't know what it is, so I'm not complaining. [01:07:41] I'm just bringing it up, but it's going to have to be modified as we get any significant projects. [01:07:48] As you're indicating, Councilman, that is absolutely true. [01:07:51] We're presenting to you a balanced budget, and we are expecting some additional revenue, [01:07:57] and that is a project that would receive some additional revenue if things work out as planned. [01:08:04] And I'll keep you posted and let you know as soon as I have more detail to pass along. [01:08:09] What kind of boat ramp expansion are we doing? [01:08:15] The boat ramp expansion project actually has more to do with the relocation [01:08:27] or rebuilding of a restroom facility, and it's on the Chamber of Commerce side of the park. [01:08:36] It's that launch that we're proposing improvements on, [01:08:41] and we're also anticipating that we may be able to buy some additional property [01:08:47] to increase the parking that is available that services those that use the boat ramp. [01:08:54] As I understand it, another part of that was also to dig some of the rocks out at the foot of the ramp [01:08:59] so that people aren't smashing their props on them. [01:09:02] Correct. [01:09:04] Five minutes to go. [01:09:11] Okay. Page 65. [01:09:14] I would like to sometime, whether it's all of us together or something, [01:09:19] but that whole piece of property, and I don't know what property you're talking about accessing, [01:09:23] but I would like to discuss that. [01:09:27] The property is located to the north of the existing parking area. [01:09:34] A pediatrician is currently housed in the building and has an active practice, [01:09:39] although they've indicated an interest in selling the property. [01:09:42] We're looking at that one, and then the next one is vacant also. [01:09:48] May I ask a question on 51? [01:09:50] Once again, this ties into NPO on Monday. [01:09:54] Y'all have read the letter. [01:09:56] This man's drafted a letter and sent it to Mr. Biles, [01:09:59] stating that our interest in the underpass of the US-19 bridge is for golf carts. [01:10:05] That's why we are so interested in this project [01:10:07] and making sure that we have golf carts accessibility there. [01:10:11] It comes back where NPO says we can't fund it so you guys can have golf carts. [01:10:15] Do we still want to commit to $50,000 a year for the 2021, 2021-22, and 2022-23? [01:10:23] $150,000 additional funds for basically an underpass that has no impact or bearing on our city? [01:10:32] Are you at $15,000 in the game? [01:10:35] Yeah, I'd rather move it down to Marine Parkway. [01:10:38] You're not going to do that, right? [01:10:41] That's the only reason I would even entertain a partnership with New Port Richey [01:10:49] is because it actually would help our residents. [01:10:52] If that's not helping our residents, I'm done. [01:10:54] I've calmed down quite a bit, but I still have my strong beliefs that— [01:11:03] and y'all backed me up on this— [01:11:04] that when I speak to NPO on Thursday regarding this project, I'm going to reiterate. [01:11:08] I'm going to reference a letter, and I'm going to reiterate that we are in this project [01:11:12] because we want—because of the economic impact we foresee it happening [01:11:16] between New Port Richey Waterfront and our downtown due to golf carts. [01:11:19] That is absolutely correct as far as I'm concerned. [01:11:22] I agree completely with Councilman Davis. [01:11:24] I will let them know. [01:11:25] Have we committed the $150,000 to them? [01:11:27] Are they already budgeting that? [01:11:29] Do we know? [01:11:30] We have not made a commitment to them in terms of budget. [01:11:32] This is just for our budget. [01:11:33] That's correct. [01:11:34] I'm just going to let them know. [01:11:35] Other than if it's all right with y'all once again. [01:11:37] Did we have to twist our arms for even New Port Richey to get involved in this study? [01:11:42] Yes, that's correct. [01:11:43] My biggest pet peeve is speaking for my colleagues. [01:11:45] I want to be 100 percent sure that when I speak on Thursday and that I have your backing [01:11:51] that we are not going to commit any more funding other than the $15,000 for the feasibility study [01:11:56] if this underpass cannot sustain golf carts. [01:12:00] Thumbs up all the way around? [01:12:02] That works for me. [01:12:05] I would say just again to the Marine Parkway that Chopper's comment about it as an entry point, [01:12:10] the money we spent over a million on that entry point in there. [01:12:14] Just to you, Matt, that golf carts are something we really want, [01:12:20] but the coast-to-coast bicycle trail connection, Pinellas Trail, is also a pretty good connection. [01:12:29] So I'd love to see the both of them, but it's not an all or none for me on that. [01:12:34] We've got to find a way to get golf carts across the highway, [01:12:36] though for sure our residents can enjoy that benefit that they live on the other side. [01:12:41] We have absolutely got to. [01:12:43] The bike path, particularly when they finish the missing piece beyond the one that they're talking about funding Thursday, [01:12:51] would basically allow you to hop on a bicycle here and take a bike on a safe route all the way to downtown St. Pete. [01:13:02] That's huge. That is absolutely huge. [01:13:05] Of course, that's 100 miles. [01:13:06] Also, you could take a bike all the way to watch the Space Coast Shuttle. [01:13:12] Ultimately, they're there as well. [01:13:15] We are at the hour that we need to make a hard stop on. [01:13:19] We're going to reschedule the balance of this for another evening. [01:13:23] Can we finish this page? [01:13:26] One more page. [01:13:28] We're ready. [01:13:29] Page 65. [01:13:32] The first project is the 2017-18 Street Improvement Project. [01:13:39] Highlight streets in that are the ones that are getting ready to start now, [01:13:42] including Massachusetts Avenue, and they'll be working their way south towards Gulf Drive. [01:13:48] You have the traffic sign upgrades. [01:13:51] Those are those decorative antique design poles that you see downtown. [01:13:55] That's a continuation. [01:13:57] We have the 2018-19 Neighborhood Improvement Project. [01:14:02] This includes planting of trees in neighborhoods, sidewalks, those types of things. [01:14:08] This phase, we're going to concentrate on North River neighborhood. [01:14:14] We had the utility poles moved this year, and our goal is to start with the additional sidewalk work next year. [01:14:23] The next project is the LED crosswalk signage that you see that's been going up. [01:14:29] This location will be in front of Gulf Middle School on Louisiana Avenue. [01:14:35] We have alley improvement funding. [01:14:38] I know that there was talk about really not knowing exactly everything that we want to do, [01:14:43] but we felt that it was important to allocate some funding so that one of the problems that we do know that we have here [01:14:50] is we do have alleys that need some extensive trimming, and so I think we're going to take baby steps. [01:14:56] We're going to start doing some of the maintenance that needs to be done with a contractor. [01:15:00] and move forward. [01:15:02] We'd like to take baby steps is what you're saying, right? [01:15:07] We have our next street improvement project. [01:15:12] Highlights on that are Main Street, [01:15:18] Palmetto Road, Aspen, Oak Ridge Drive, [01:15:25] and Louisiana Avenue. [01:15:29] We have the roadway striping program, [01:15:33] and that will concentrate on the North River neighborhood as well. [01:15:38] And then finally, we will finish up with the beginning of the design [01:15:42] of the 1920 Street Improvement Project. [01:15:45] Any questions before we break? [01:15:47] Just that this whole street thing is worthy of a whole commentary [01:15:51] and another workshop at some point, too. [01:15:53] So you're pushing the improvement plan. [01:15:56] The next one out to the second fiscal year,

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