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   Review of Proposed FY19 Department Budgets

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   Staff presented FY19 proposed department budgets for Accounting/Budgeting, Billing & Collection, Recreation & Aquatic Center, Fire Department, Public Works/Facilities Maintenance, and the Water Plant. Discussion covered staffing changes, transition to the Tyler billing system, recreation programming and capital items (movie screen, sunshades, ADA pool lift), part-time firefighter staffing increases, and resident concerns about garbage/dumping fees. No formal votes were taken; the work session was for review and direction.

   • direction:Council asked staff to come back with alternatives addressing residents' difficulties with garbage/dumping fees and illegal dumping. (none)

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   [00:00:10] The next item is the continuing review of the proposed [00:00:15] budget. [00:00:17] This is part three. [00:00:20] Three. [00:00:21] Three. [00:00:22] Three. [00:00:24] And this evening, we will be presenting to you [00:00:29] budget for the Recreation and Aquatic Center, Fire [00:00:34] Department, and Public Works Department, along with, [00:00:38] if we have time, some street lights and so forth. [00:00:46] Very good. [00:00:48] Good evening. [00:00:53] I'll first start with the Accounting and Budgeting [00:00:56] Division. [00:00:58] In total, there's a very. [00:01:01] I'm sorry. [00:01:04] Three. [00:01:18] In total, there was only roughly about an $1,100 increase [00:01:22] between last year's budget and this year's proposed budget. [00:01:26] This division's budget consists of seven positions, [00:01:31] and I am not proposing any new positions. [00:01:37] In total, for Personnel Services, there was a 2% increase [00:01:41] compared to last year's budget, which was last year's total. [00:01:47] Moving down to Operating Expenses, you'll note that [00:01:51] annual audit services did increase by $10,000, and that is [00:01:56] just to align the budget more closely with the actual costs in [00:02:03] the past previous two years. [00:02:07] Moving down, there is an increase of $1,000 in office [00:02:11] supplies, and this is for the same reason, just to align the [00:02:15] budget. [00:02:22] That's about the amount we've spent over the last three years. [00:02:26] That's about the amount we've spent over the last three years. [00:02:56] Oh. [00:02:57] When was that budget announced? [00:02:59] Or has it been? [00:03:00] Or I haven't seen the budget. [00:03:02] Actually, it is the same as the original budget. [00:03:05] We just referred to it as a new budget. [00:03:08] In this division's case, there hasn't been any additional [00:03:11] budget. [00:03:12] Okay. [00:03:13] Okay. [00:03:14] Okay. [00:03:15] Okay. [00:03:16] Okay. [00:03:17] Okay. [00:03:18] Okay. [00:03:20] In this division's case, there hasn't been any additional [00:03:23] budget. [00:03:38] The next division is Billing and Collection. [00:03:42] In this division in total, compared to last year's budget, [00:03:46] decreased by about 3%. [00:03:49] So I'll start at the top with professional services. [00:03:54] These costs consist of seven positions, [00:03:58] and I'm, again, not proposing any new positions. [00:04:01] So the increase from year to year is 2%. [00:04:10] Operating, the first line, professional services, [00:04:14] was decreased by half. [00:04:16] Because in fiscal year 19, we expect to go live [00:04:21] and continue billing on to the Tyler system. [00:04:24] So that will cut a significant amount of professional services [00:04:28] that we need. [00:04:29] A lot of the conversion to the new Tyler system. [00:04:33] After we go live with utility billing, [00:04:46] there's one more module that we have to convert, [00:04:51] which is our fleet warehouse work order module. [00:04:54] After that, we will be completely off of it. [00:04:57] That will be, I'm thinking, the same time as utility billing. [00:05:01] So around February 2017. [00:05:08] Moving down to credit card charges, [00:05:10] this line item also decreased by about 15,000. [00:05:16] And the reason is the same. [00:05:19] We can choose to go live with the Tyler software. [00:05:24] At that point, we will be able to set up the system [00:05:28] to allow pass-throughs of our credit card charges [00:05:31] that we currently need for processing credit cards. [00:05:35] So this cost is approximately, [00:05:39] it's expected that around February, March 2019, [00:05:43] we will be able to pass this. [00:05:58] The rest of the operation. [00:06:29] Like it's beginning for the fiscal year 2019? [00:06:34] Yep. [00:06:36] Is your next page a public page? [00:06:46] And this is what we do. [00:06:49] Just take it out of the blue line. [00:06:51] So. [00:06:53] Walking off. [00:07:04] The mission of the Recreation Division [00:07:06] is to create memorable recreation and aquatic experiences [00:07:11] that enhance the quality of life. [00:07:16] 18 staff. [00:07:18] We program the Recreation Center 361 days a year. [00:07:35] Summertime in the city and so forth. [00:07:39] Start with the regular exempt budget. [00:07:42] You see we have a decrease there. [00:07:44] We did away with that position. [00:07:46] That we were splitting part-time with IT. [00:07:55] And the regular full-time wages is due to, [00:07:58] we took that recreation manager position, [00:08:00] decreased the hourly rate, [00:08:02] made it part-time to full-time, [00:08:05] and created a new position there. [00:08:09] And also the reason for it, too, [00:08:11] is our recreation supervisor position, [00:08:14] I'm sorry, our fitness center supervisor position [00:08:16] was not fully funded in this current budget. [00:08:22] So with this next coming budget, [00:08:24] we'll be needing to fully fund that position. [00:08:32] Part-time. [00:08:33] The reason for the increase there [00:08:35] is we needed to add one child watch position. [00:08:38] And then also, again, the current child watch positions [00:08:42] as well as the part-time fitness supervisor [00:08:45] was not fully funded in the current budget, [00:08:47] again, due to construction. [00:08:49] And those positions would need to be fully funded this year. [00:08:53] The only other increase in personnel [00:08:57] is in the temporary wages, 1321. [00:09:00] And that increase is to add two pool attendants [00:09:04] to operate the pool concession during the summer. [00:09:07] Part of the increases, too, with personnel [00:09:11] have to do with almost a $21,000 increase [00:09:14] in the security, retirement, health insurance, and workers' comp. [00:09:26] 4419 rental equipment, $800 increase [00:09:30] for some of our inflatables, some events we do, [00:09:33] and also for some additional concerts, [00:09:35] chairs, and the lift for the concerts. [00:09:38] The lease, 4463, is a city vehicle lease. [00:09:44] 4623, our copier is currently 12 years old, [00:09:48] so this would be to lease a new copier. [00:09:51] So that's an increase there. [00:09:54] 4965 are city-sponsored programs. [00:09:57] That increase would be to cover additional [00:10:00] of the free concerts that we do down at Sims Park, [00:10:03] also covered out of this funding are the river cleanups [00:10:07] and free events that our department does. [00:10:12] 5236, concessions. [00:10:15] That's money for us to be able to purchase food [00:10:18] and beverage items to resell in our pool concession. [00:10:23] And then the last increase is 5248, prizes and awards. [00:10:29] Just a slight increase there because now we do actually have [00:10:33] quite a few sports leagues, flag football, basketball, [00:10:36] indoor frisbee. [00:10:53] We have pursued that for the last two summers, [00:10:56] excuse me, ever since Chick-fil-A. [00:11:18] And then also it's not just child care, [00:11:20] what those child watch people do. [00:11:38] We have people that have told us that they've bought [00:11:41] their memberships because of the fitness center expansion [00:11:45] and the response has just been overwhelmingly positive [00:11:48] from new members as well as current members. [00:11:57] Okay, that is the 6399 one. [00:12:04] Okay, that is, we need a new movie screen, [00:12:07] the 28-foot wide one. [00:12:10] Part of that is too that out of our budget, [00:12:14] I think this is right, that we pay for parks, benches, [00:12:19] trash cans, tables. [00:12:21] We're looking at some new drinking fountains. [00:12:25] Screen for what? [00:12:27] Where is the screen? [00:12:34] It's not large enough to be able to handle the crowd. [00:12:43] I'm not sure that it would work that way, [00:12:45] I'd have to find out if it could do it. [00:12:55] I advocated for it. [00:12:59] I wish there were bigger screens, [00:13:05] but I don't personally think it would work. [00:13:18] I don't think it would show up [00:13:24] and that we'd have the response that we're having. [00:13:26] Everybody loves that, sitting in front of that huge screen. [00:13:36] All the city parks. [00:13:42] I believe it's about 5,000. [00:13:45] I was going to say out of 300,000. [00:13:46] Right. [00:14:06] That's $62.99. [00:14:27] I thought, and see because I just get a lump sum total too, [00:14:30] so I wasn't sure what was approved and what wasn't. [00:14:32] I thought it also were the three picnic shelters at Francis. [00:15:00] I'm going to go back to the screen for a quick question. [00:15:07] Are they using the screens for live shots of the artists on stage? [00:15:22] Yes. [00:15:23] And who's paying so that when we put a concert on, the city is absorbing that cost for our artists? [00:15:36] It's the staff that IT has, and then they pay for it. [00:15:41] Our staff are using it? [00:15:43] Well, it's who Brian has a contract with. [00:15:46] So you don't have, you know, who, so he knows who's using their equipment, his equipment, the city's equipment. [00:15:52] And our programs only recruit people. [00:15:56] They pay for it, right. [00:15:57] I'm going to go back to the screen for a quick question. [00:16:27] Most of them are using it. [00:16:28] Even the drafters decided to use it this past year, and they loved it. [00:16:31] They loved it. [00:17:01] I'm going to go back to the question David said earlier. [00:17:14] I can see from here, that's what I want to see. [00:17:40] Well, the next page has got the five-year plan on it. [00:17:46] Will you be completing one of those? [00:17:49] That's all I'm saying. [00:17:51] I don't know how big of a brush we would have if we were going to do a budget piece of this. [00:17:55] I'm not sure that it has to be, you know, worked out. [00:18:19] We'll see it in time. [00:18:31] Sixteen seasonal lifeguards operate and program our four pools seven days a week. [00:18:36] They do things such as swim lessons, water safety instruction, water aerobics, swim team practices and meets, [00:18:42] lap swimming, and we have a lot of camps and pool parties and just open swim time. [00:18:47] Lifeguards aren't just responsible for life-saving practices, but they also maintain proper water chemistry [00:18:52] and also perform maintenance in the facility. [00:18:56] They are required to maintain a lot of current certifications such as aquatic facility operator, [00:19:04] water safety instruction, first aid, AED training, blood-borne pathogens, lifeguarding, [00:19:10] and then also CPR for the professional rescuer. [00:19:13] And the aquatic staff also conduct regular in-service trainings to make sure they keep their life-saving skills sharp. [00:19:20] This one is really easy. [00:19:42] I love that license plate. [00:20:02] All the wages there, $12.99, $13.11, and $13.12, you can see two are increased, [00:20:11] one is decreased. [00:20:12] Really, it averages out, so there's only about a $700 increase total. [00:20:17] That was just a lot of housekeeping to put the people, positions in the proper pay categories, [00:20:24] and it's based on how many months that they work year-round. [00:20:28] So that was really all that was, was just putting in the proper categories. [00:20:33] The only increase that we had is $43.41, which is our natural gas to heat the lap pool. [00:20:40] And the reason that we increased that is only because the private swim team that rents the pool [00:20:46] and then they pay half the heat cost. [00:20:50] They have indicated to us that potentially they're going to reduce their rental time in the winter, [00:20:58] still keep the pool heated and open for lap swimmers. [00:21:02] That may not be, will only, you know, that's only if they don't pay. [00:21:11] Excuse me? [00:21:15] Know that you have the, there was a revised copy, I called that this afternoon. [00:21:20] So the health insurance is in there. [00:21:37] Then $63.99, improvements other than building. [00:21:41] That $63,000 will be to replace the sunshades all over the facility, which are 12 years old. [00:21:54] And also to replace our ADA pool lift, which is 12 years old. [00:21:58] And then to put another section in with surround, or sound. [00:22:28] I love you. [00:22:30] I just really have to contribute a lot to the pool lift. [00:22:34] Thank you. [00:23:02] We haven't had vendors for two years now. [00:23:05] Are families able to bring in whatever food items they want to make lunch inside the pool? [00:23:10] Yes, we allow, we allow, no, we don't do that anymore. [00:23:14] We allow anybody to bring a cooler in. [00:23:16] We just make sure they don't have alcohol or glass, which is health department. [00:23:20] But a lot of people bring their own coolers and that's no problem at all. [00:23:32] The mission of the New Port Richey Fire Department remains the same. [00:23:36] We serve to protect the lives and property of the citizens of New Port Richey. [00:23:42] Providing the highest possible levels of service through fire prevention, public education, fire suppression, [00:23:50] services and mitigation of the effects from natural and man-made disasters. [00:24:00] The first one is fire supervision. [00:24:08] It consists of fire chief, assistant fire chief, a full-time administrative assistant. [00:24:15] And you'll see a change. [00:24:20] In previous years we had a full-time residential inspector. [00:24:34] So as we start down in 071 fire supervision, there's slight adjustments on the salaries. [00:24:43] You'll see a deduction on the regular full-time wages based upon eliminating the full-time tax. [00:24:56] Which would indicate the residential rental. [00:25:04] Slight increase in the employee incentives due to adding a part-time fire inspector. [00:25:18] So the personnel expenses are consistent with previous years. [00:25:36] It's our urban search and rescue team that we have at the fire station. [00:25:43] Incentive pays that you see are all contractual. [00:25:53] Slight increase in contractual services, that's due to software from fire programs dissolved. [00:26:03] Start consistent in previous years until we get to... [00:26:27] Until we get to... [00:26:57] Until we get to... [00:27:17] Until we get to... [00:27:27] Until we get to... [00:27:54] Second budget is 073 firefighting. [00:27:58] As we start down, there's no changes in full-time staffing. [00:28:03] We get down to part-time firefighter wages. [00:28:05] You'll see a slight increase. [00:28:07] That's due to we increased the hours of the part-time staff. [00:28:12] As you know, we have 21 firefighters. [00:28:21] By increasing the hours in the part-time firefighters, we can put a part-time firefighter slot on every single day. [00:28:30] Part-time firefighters, the staffing, the way that we do it, is only effective about 25% of the time. [00:28:46] So if we have a part-time firefighter slot every single day, that person can sign up in advance and have that day filled. [00:28:55] Also, all the training requirements that we require our part-time firefighters... [00:29:03] See them once a month. [00:29:04] So for them to be able to ride on their own... [00:29:14] Sign up in advance really helps out. [00:29:19] Also, that would help us maintain the staffing. [00:29:27] You know, you can't send that... [00:29:39] Time wages was increased a little bit. [00:29:43] Overtime special events... [00:29:47] Residential rental inspection, we decreased. [00:29:52] I had a more consistent actual number with... [00:30:30] are behind in inspections. [00:30:34] ... [00:30:38] ... [00:30:42] ... [00:30:46] ... [00:30:50] ... [00:30:54] ... [00:30:58] ... [00:31:02] ... [00:31:06] ... [00:31:10] ... [00:31:14] ... [00:31:18] ... [00:31:22] ... [00:31:26] ... [00:31:30] ... [00:31:34] ... [00:31:38] ... [00:31:42] ... [00:31:46] ... 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[01:00:00] The problem that we have, because I agree with you too what you just said, but the problem [01:00:24] that we have now is that people are stuck in the city and so it ties their hands because [01:01:47] have a lot of money. [01:01:48] That's a big problem. [01:01:49] Yes. [01:01:50] That's a big problem. [01:01:51] And the biggest problem is that people are stuck in the city. [01:01:52] So they have – and you pay something. [01:01:53] You pay at the dump. [01:01:54] You pay at the 10th or whatever. [01:01:55] I think it's a great idea. [01:01:56] I'm not even sure if I have enough fee for the collection service, although that probably [01:01:57] is a good thing. [01:01:58] I hear and we heard it from a pile, like they came and took it up one day and it was a pile [01:01:59] of garbage. [01:02:00] And they said, oh, well, that's not going to be a problem. [01:02:01] So we have to do something about it. [01:02:02] I think that's a good thing. [01:02:03] I think that's a good thing. [01:02:04] I think that's a good thing. [01:02:05] I think that's a good thing. [01:02:36] I think other people to throw on top of it. [01:02:58] So maybe we have another discussion. [01:03:01] I like that. [01:03:02] Let's come up with some alternatives. [01:03:15] Facilities maintenance. [01:03:16] If you recall, this was a new division, and so as you see some of these changes here, [01:03:20] they're directly related to us getting – so that's why the line item for rental came [01:03:30] in. [01:03:31] So we have 10 line item increases for 4373 streetlight fee and the stormwater assessment. [01:04:01] We eliminated cemetery and we added a line item for the memorial and the memorial trees, [01:04:26] those types of things, and moved those funds over. [01:04:34] The splash pad chemicals from 25 to 4,000. [01:05:04] Increase in trailers was an increase for the – I believe it's a replacement pickup [01:05:10] truck and then R&R. [01:05:18] So there was no R&R. [01:05:19] It's a truck replacement for the maintenance staff. [01:05:26] We start with the enterprise funds. [01:05:28] This is the water plant budget, division 105. [01:05:33] We had a decrease, actually, in the streetlight fee and then again an increase in the stormwater [01:05:43] assessment. [01:05:45] Other than that, this division stayed the same, just a slight increase. [01:05:51] I believe it was $60. [01:06:06] We incorporated that in last year's budget, and so we figured that we would be able to [01:06:14] make our adjustments after this year either way because we are going to bring to you an [01:06:18] additional utility that we would hopefully be able to purchase. [01:06:27] Yes, sir. [01:06:32] What we were going to do is when we have the consulting panel, hopefully we can talk about [01:06:51] all of that stuff and head forward. [01:07:01] Okay. [01:07:02] That was – it's some of the equipment, the analyzing equipment, I believe it is. [01:08:31] Right, the reclaim, we've got the meter out there on old steam, exactly, correct. [01:08:55] Reclaim at $381,800. [01:09:10] For construction services, division 109, that remained the same as well at $34,000. [01:10:30] I think one of the issues that we have with the reclaimed water is summer is a really [01:10:58] good example. [01:11:00] Our plant is taking in a ton of water to treat, and if every person in the city had [01:11:07] reclaimed water, they wouldn't have their irrigation systems on because it's raining [01:11:13] every day. [01:11:14] So that's not when you need to get rid of your reclaim, and so when you experience a [01:11:19] drought year, everybody wants it and there's not enough to go around. [01:11:23] So it's a catch-22. [01:11:26] I think, and the mayor being here on the Tampa Bay Water Board, I think that there's a [01:11:32] lot of discussion with different ways to dispose of that water, and some of it's recharging, [01:11:38] some of the areas of the aquifer that are struggling in treating it before you inject [01:11:44] it in. [01:11:45] So I think that's what you're doing as far as being able to pump back in a large [01:11:52] amount of water back into your system to where when you reclaim it, it doesn't have [01:12:00] such a large impact on the aquifer. [01:12:22] There may be some applicability for us up here as well. [01:12:46] I think the old concept of reclaim irrigation or storage, they're finding out is really [01:12:52] not, because how much is enough when it comes to storage? [01:13:07] We have is the Water and Sewer Reclaimed Water Production, this is Division 111. [01:13:13] You'll notice that on 3438 lab testing, we have a $100,000 plus increase. [01:13:24] That is due to our testing that FDEP is requiring in our operating permit at the Wastewater [01:13:30] Treatment Plant. [01:13:31] Currently under the state permit, we are applying for the following permit to be able to discharge, [01:13:42] to have a surface discharge permit, meaning that we want to be allowed to be able to take [01:13:50] treated water that's cleaner than the storm water coming out of the skies and being able [01:13:54] to put it into the bayou, because we don't have enough storage. [01:14:00] The problem that we have with the county is their system is at 100%, so even if we're [01:14:06] pumping into their system during these events at 100%, that's all we can do. [01:14:11] We can't do any more, but yet the water is coming in faster than we're getting it out. [01:14:18] For us to be able to find a solution to it, we applied for a limited discharge permit. [01:14:25] What DEP does is they direct you to have a five-year plan to where you do testing, the [01:14:38] surface water that you're discharging into, and to see a trend, to be able to identify [01:14:44] that trend and find out what the effects of that are. [01:14:50] Very expensive, but we have no other choice. [01:14:53] The only other thing that we could do is apply for a permit. [01:15:00] percent order and then if we had another discharge, it's the size of our plant and make it a basically [01:15:11] a plant that takes and treats water and puts it back as drinking water. So we don't even [01:15:18] have the area anymore on that site to expand to that type of plant. So this is the only [01:15:24] avenue that we have. Oh no, not at all. [01:15:54] Correct, and that's a very good point. You might look at that $85,000 figure, but in [01:16:05] reality by the time the true outcomes, it might only be $50,000 because they're responsible [01:16:10] for a portion of the electricity, the chemicals, that type of thing. [01:16:18] The next division is 112, the wastewater treatment plant. The first light item that you see increase [01:16:34] is 3129, that's for engineering services. That is also directly related to the permit, [01:16:42] the discharge permit that we're working on. That also includes the modeling of all the [01:16:48] results. 4361, sludge removal. It's anticipated that we'll have to go out to bid this year [01:16:58] and that's the expected increase of the numbers that we're seeing from other agencies that [01:17:04] are getting new contracts as well. [01:17:07] The next two line items underneath that, 4373 and 4381 are the streetlight fee and the stormwater [01:17:16] assessment. They were increases. You can move down to 4523, we have automotive and truck [01:17:26] insurance. There was a slight increase in that. And then there was the increase in permit [01:17:32] fees at 4983, which again is also directly related to the operating permit. We had to [01:17:40] get a surface water discharge fee permit. Total operating cost or proposed cost is $1,357,460. [01:18:02] Our next division is 113, it is wastewater sewer collections division. This division [01:18:20] had a decrease in their operating budget. It was in line item 3199, professional services. [01:18:28] Last year, the $100,000 was for the I&I program that we had. And this year, we've reduced [01:18:40] it to $50,000 and that will be part of our subsurface underground engineering, which [01:18:49] is basically related to identifying the different facilities that you have in your system and [01:18:55] incorporating them into your GIS system so that the guys that are out in the field, if [01:19:01] they have a force main break, they'll be able to pull it up on the computer and find out [01:19:05] which valves they need to shut off. This is for consultants to help us with that and to [01:19:11] update our GIS system. This budget was decreased from $520,000 to [01:19:25] $22,680 to $472,790. I've never heard of a pager having a discharge [01:19:55] in a dead spot. Our next division is 103, stormwater utility. [01:20:11] The increases that we had were directly related to 4373, 4381, and 4511. They were the street [01:20:19] light fee, the stormwater assessment, and liability insurance. There was a slight decrease [01:20:29] in 4521, building contents insurance. That was down $200. [01:21:18] The fund balance, our rollover of fund balance of $230,000, is based on the fact that we [01:21:48] have a budget of $1,000,000. The fund is $1,277,789. [01:22:18] Yes, it was based upon last year we did a revenue sufficiency analysis. [01:22:48] There was an updated study, and so that was their recommendation. [01:22:55] Great study. It was done by the ASH group. [01:23:08] Same for the street lighting fund. The amount of revenue being proposed is $436,936. [01:23:16] The majority of that is generated from the street lighting assessment. [01:23:24] We also have a street highway lighting and maintenance agreement with the Florida Department [01:23:32] of Transportation. We expect anywhere between $35,000 and $38,000 this year. [01:23:48] We also have a street lighting and maintenance agreement with the Florida Department of Transportation. [01:24:02] I believe your operating budget is also based upon the rate study that was performed the same time the stormwater utility one was done. [01:24:39] We know that when we went into the LED conversion project about four years ago, I think it was, that we first wanted to get the conversion done. [01:24:46] We didn't want to add additional lights until we got everything switched over to LED so we could see what kind of patterned areas that were dark, which areas were bright. [01:25:17] We then finished that project and went into the dark spot project, which consisted of Duke Energy going through the town and finding out exactly where their spacing needs to be. [01:25:34] We identified areas that had existing lights, but because maybe there was an accident, a vehicle accident, that they replaced the pole, but nobody came back and put that light back up. [01:25:47] We're just about completed with all of those. [01:25:52] Now our next phase is to go out and start hitting street by street those items that you're talking about as far as being able to now start clearing some of these areas to see what kind of lighting that we can get. [01:26:07] In the end, I think we're all talking about two different options. [01:26:13] One is we're going to be looking at areas where trimming the trees is going to give the lighting back. [01:26:18] Then we should be presenting you with some street light standards here within the next couple months to where you can look at them, approve them, and then we'll have something that we can go by that's constant. [01:26:32] Then what we will also do is we will take and identify those neighborhoods where maybe clearing out some of that brush doesn't give you the same kind of lighting. [01:26:43] We have some neighborhoods that have a lot of oak trees, large oak trees, granddaddy oak trees, and you just can't go in there and start cutting them. [01:26:53] That's going to lead to maybe some different types of lighting in some different neighborhoods that might be lower. [01:27:03] We are working. [01:27:12] It's out.

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3. 3Adjournment