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   Review of Proposed Departmental Budgets

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   Department heads presented FY 2016-17 proposed budgets for Development, Economic Development, Human Resources, and Police (supervision and various divisions). Council provided feedback, including a request from Deputy Mayor Phillips to add a marketing/sponsorship line item to Economic Development, and asked staff to verify a tripled workers' comp rate and itemize building improvements in the Development budget. No formal votes were taken; this was a work session review.

   • direction:Council directed staff to verify the workers' compensation rate that appeared to triple in the Development Department budget. (none)
   • direction:Council directed staff to update budget figures to reflect the flat-rate health insurance increase news received the prior week. (none)
   • direction:Council directed Mrs. Fierce to itemize the $250,000 building improvements line in the department overview (restrooms, glass block wall, flooring/carpet). (none)
   • direction:Deputy Mayor Phillips requested consideration of adding a marketing/sponsorship line item to the Economic Development budget. (none)

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   [00:00:15] I think we all made it back from supper, so the first and only item [00:00:19] on the agenda is the review of proposed department budgets. [00:00:23] Ms. Manz? [00:00:24] Mr. Mayor, we'd like to take over where we left off the last time we were [00:00:28] together and present the second half of the departmental budgets to you. [00:00:34] And this evening, we're going to start with the development department. [00:00:37] And so we have Mrs. Fierce before you. [00:00:41] Evening. [00:00:43] In terms of the personnel services, there is an increase in the budget [00:00:49] amount for the development department for that item. [00:00:53] And that's due to a change in some staffing we had this past year. [00:00:59] And in order to attract a qualified and experienced residential rental inspector, [00:01:04] we had to be a little more competitive with some of our surrounding jurisdictions [00:01:10] in terms of the salary. [00:01:11] And then the items that are 2111 through 2432 are all those that are adjusted [00:01:19] based on increase in rates, which I know you've heard from different [00:01:23] department heads talking to you about that. [00:01:26] So those changes would represent an increase in the overall personnel services [00:01:34] portion of the budget. [00:01:37] In terms of the operating items, we're looking for a little bit more funding [00:01:42] for our city engineer services. [00:01:45] We have hired heirs associates, as you know, and they provide development [00:01:52] review services for us as well as some other services for the public works staff. [00:01:57] And we've found them to be a competent and reliable staff, and we have found [00:02:01] ourselves to be in need of their services a little more often. [00:02:07] For the professional services planning line item, that would include the balance [00:02:13] of the sign code amendment that I know you're aware we've completed phase one [00:02:19] with the attorney. [00:02:21] The attorney will be involved in phase two, and then the other consultant [00:02:26] will be leading the balance of that amendment. [00:02:30] So that coupled with some, what we feel would be maybe some minor [00:02:34] comprehensive plan amendments that we may need external services for, would it [00:02:39] include the $50,000 in professional services for planning? [00:02:45] We have added a line item that's listed as 42XX, and that would be postage for [00:02:54] the residential inspection program. [00:02:57] I guess we thought we would want to call that out as a separate line item. [00:03:01] It would include certified mail that would be necessary for when we actually [00:03:04] have to officially notice property owners about their properties that are [00:03:12] not in compliance, and when we take them to magistrate or court. [00:03:17] So that's a new line item. [00:03:19] The next one on there is the lease of the copier, which is just going up about $1,000. [00:03:26] And we've added a notary to the staffing, so now we've added a little cost for that. [00:03:32] Towards the bottom, we have increases in both dues and memberships, as well as books [00:03:38] and publications. [00:03:41] Because we've added more staff, we have more needs, and so they all are members of [00:03:45] their affiliated professional memberships. [00:03:50] And we have had to budget for code books, FEMA publications, and construction [00:03:56] standards to keep up with the current standards that are in the industry in terms of building. [00:04:05] And that represents pretty much the changes from last year. [00:04:10] So those would be the increases that we're seeking. [00:04:14] Can you explain the workman's comp? [00:04:17] I cannot, but I bet the finance department could. [00:04:19] If you'll allow me. [00:04:20] Yeah, please. [00:04:21] So the worker's comp class, we have two different line items for that in her department because [00:04:30] we've got two different classifications of employees working for her. [00:04:35] And the worker's comp code that's assigned to the employees is audited on an annual basis [00:04:43] by the state. [00:04:45] So it went from 10 to 33, that's what caused it to go from that one to the other? [00:04:51] The rates for that particular category have increased from last year. [00:04:56] Tell the guys not to go up on the roof and inspect from the ground and not on the roof. [00:05:00] Just kidding. [00:05:01] That's not an increase, that's triple. [00:05:04] Yeah. [00:05:05] We're going to verify that number because it does seem really high. [00:05:13] This man's report on Friday indicated that the health insurance had, is there still going [00:05:22] to be an increase in the health insurance or not? [00:05:25] Because obviously that's going to be reflected in every one of these budgets we've looked [00:05:28] at. [00:05:29] This increase that we've seen, it'll be smaller, there'll be something depending on personnel [00:05:36] or their wages going up or something I would imagine. [00:05:40] Right. [00:05:41] The estimates that we've presented to you so far do not include the fact that we'll [00:05:46] be provided a flat rate increase this year. [00:05:52] Crystal was off last week so she couldn't make the adjustment. [00:05:56] Just wanted to make sure that you're, the information we got, so we are going to see [00:06:01] changes across the board there. [00:06:03] Yes, you should expect to see changes. [00:06:06] I also mentioned that I forgot to point out that 3499, which is contractual services miscellany, [00:06:12] has gone up from 50 to 80,000 and that's because we no longer can rely on the Neighborhood [00:06:19] Stabilization Program funding that we've had for several years through the county. [00:06:27] There's no longer that funding available so that money is used for slum and blight removal. [00:06:34] As we're doing about 10 a year, we think that we need about 80,000 to cover additional. [00:06:39] Do we put, don't we put the burden back on them in a, in a, okay, so we have to pay it [00:06:46] out front but we might get it back in revenue at some point. [00:06:49] At the time of title transfer. [00:06:50] Okay. [00:06:51] The other question is, is that the county decided not to fund that particular line item [00:06:56] with their windfall and their millage? [00:07:01] It's actually a community development block grant funded. [00:07:05] Is that Roman Goley managed? [00:07:07] That's correct. [00:07:08] Okay. [00:07:09] The Neighborhood Stabilization was, is a federal program that there's no more dollars for that [00:07:14] we were getting the money through the county and again, those dollars have dried up, if [00:07:19] you will. [00:07:20] Ms. Fierce, did you say that you added employees to your, to your world? [00:07:28] We have a senior staff assistant position that you know as the front receptionist and [00:07:36] that was transferred last year from the city manager's overview to the development department [00:07:42] and we did add a residential rental inspector. [00:07:46] So that could account for some part of that workers comp because I believe it's, it's [00:07:51] per. [00:07:52] The residential rental inspector was a brand new position and the front desk receptionist [00:08:01] was converted from a part-time position to a full-time position but it, I don't think [00:08:07] would account for the numbers that we're showing on your 16-17 budget request. [00:08:15] I think Crystal and I both think that there must be an error somewhere and we'll track [00:08:19] it down. [00:08:20] So what about the, on the health insurance side too because I thought we said we weren't [00:08:24] going to see much change but it went up almost $20,000. [00:08:30] I'm sorry, I might not have been clear when I responded to Deputy Mayor Phillips' question [00:08:35] earlier. [00:08:37] These documents don't reflect the fact that we won't see a rate increase this year. [00:08:44] We just learned of that news last week and we have not redone the forms. [00:08:49] Okay, good, thank you. [00:08:51] We will do that before the next presentation to you. [00:08:55] The last thing is on 6,299, I know we spent $250,000 last year, what, and in your goals [00:09:06] and objectives it's not listed as a, as one of the things that was going to be dealt with [00:09:14] this year, but what falls under building improvements, that's a $250,000 is a pretty [00:09:21] good umbrella. [00:09:22] Actually, we didn't spend the $250,000 in this current fiscal year, but what that would [00:09:27] include are improvements to the building including the restroom facilities, the block wall that [00:09:36] we see out front to convert that to a glass block wall, right, converting that. [00:09:42] Is this $250,000 carried over from last year? [00:09:44] Essentially it's a carryover. [00:09:46] Because I thought part of it had to do with the roof elements and some of the other things, [00:09:50] was that it? [00:09:51] That was in a separate capital budget item? [00:09:55] That's correct, yep. [00:09:56] The roof was separate. [00:09:57] All right. [00:09:58] We're also going to be doing the flooring, the carpet in the building. [00:10:06] And we didn't implement the improvements this fiscal year because we had just too many [00:10:12] capital projects without bonding for any loan monies. [00:10:18] So we held back. [00:10:19] In your, in your department overview, would you please add to the building improvements [00:10:23] and would you itemize them in case somebody from the outside looked at this and said, [00:10:29] you wouldn't even reference it, so that way they understand that it moved from one to [00:10:35] the other and these are the three or four things that we have projected to do more facility [00:10:42] improvements to. [00:10:44] Thanks. [00:10:45] Any other questions? [00:10:48] Right. [00:10:49] Thank you. [00:10:52] The next departmental budget that we'd like to represent to you this evening is economic [00:10:58] development. [00:10:59] Mr. Iazzoni will represent the budget. [00:11:02] Thank you very much, city manager and council. [00:11:18] This part of the budget primarily consists of staffing, primarily comes out of the general [00:11:22] fund. [00:11:23] And we're recommending pretty much the same, same as last year for the economic development [00:11:28] director and one administrative assistant. [00:11:33] Very little changes, pretty much straightforward. [00:11:36] Travel and training, we don't consume much of that, so that's going down considerably. [00:11:42] Other than that, it's, except for the increases in health care insurance, it's pretty much [00:11:46] identical to the prior year. [00:11:49] Not planning to do that much traveling or training. [00:11:55] Looks like it was five grand last year, now you've got two year marked. [00:12:01] There's a lot, we're seeing just a very strong interest in the town in terms of how it's [00:12:09] evolving. [00:12:10] Classic examples on Friday, three, one large property owner on Highway 19 and another one [00:12:16] called me and the best thing that I can do is remain accessible to the investment capitalists [00:12:20] looking at this town. [00:12:23] Some of those projects take 18 months to negotiate them, some of those projects are just business [00:12:30] owners that are generally interested in what's happening in the climate of the town. [00:12:35] I feel the greatest value that I can bring is to be accessible to those individuals within [00:12:39] New Port Richey. [00:12:42] If I see something related to economic development, obviously I will pursue that for additional [00:12:47] education, but I call it stick to my knitting year. [00:12:51] We have several irons in the fires that are moving along and at any point in time, one [00:12:57] of those individuals that we're working with will call me and I help facilitate that process [00:13:01] in conjunction with the direction the city manager provides. [00:13:05] Deputy Mayor. [00:13:08] Yeah, Mr. Mayor, underneath the expense side, I'd love for us to consider a line item that [00:13:17] would be designated to marketing and sponsorship from the economic development side. [00:13:23] I know you think you're Northwestern Mutual Insurance, the quiet company, and that you're [00:13:28] a quiet department, but we do a terrible job of tooting our own horn and if we don't give [00:13:35] you a line item for you to strategically put your face on those big boards out there, then [00:13:43] we under ... I'm not saying it's the best ... They don't want to put our faces on there [00:13:47] either, but at the end of the day, it would make sense to me if we're ... You can't market [00:13:53] something that you don't put out in front of people, so I'd like to consider that. [00:13:58] Also underneath your initiatives for this year, I just had a couple of questions. [00:14:06] You had growth of the number of marine district firms to go along with the approach side. [00:14:13] Also, the availability of the infrastructure and the CRA cooperation, and if there'd be [00:14:22] any thought to looking at a marine district overlay. [00:14:26] These are suggestions, these aren't ... I'm just throwing these out here, because this [00:14:30] is the only time we get to say it in public. [00:14:33] The other is, obviously, you've got the west and east main. [00:14:39] You talk about retail capacity, I think we ought to raise our hand and talk about, why [00:14:44] don't we just call it what it is? [00:14:47] Parking garage. [00:14:48] Look at ... Analyzing the possibility of doing some kind of a parking structure in our downtown. [00:14:57] I don't care if people know about it. [00:15:00] To me, that's an economic development tool for you. [00:15:03] We've talked about it. [00:15:04] We're engaging on it. [00:15:11] And the other is, I'll find it. [00:15:17] The other is, we don't talk much about our initiatives [00:15:20] when we talk about neighborhoods. [00:15:22] We talk about economic development. [00:15:25] I think we've been trying to get to a point [00:15:28] where we could look at some neighborhood elements. [00:15:31] Because we have money here. [00:15:32] We have money in the development. [00:15:37] So those all need to tie together. [00:15:39] So those are my questions and concerns. [00:15:41] Thank you. [00:15:43] And the other is, I'm disappointed [00:15:45] that we didn't have the CRA budget to piggyback [00:15:47] on the back of this. [00:15:48] We get to do it tomorrow night. [00:15:50] I would have thought that these two tandem together [00:15:53] would have been a much better way of talking [00:15:55] about economic development and the CRA at the same time. [00:15:59] But I know we'll get to it tomorrow night. [00:16:02] Councilman, can I ask you a question? [00:16:04] Regarding your marketing comment, [00:16:08] were you referring to marketing like our accomplishments [00:16:10] thus far, or potential developments, or both? [00:16:14] It's a big umbrella. [00:16:15] I'd like for them to be able to have some dedicated dollars [00:16:20] so that they could come to us and say, [00:16:21] I want to advertise here, or I want to do this, [00:16:25] or perfect example is, we've had some people come into town [00:16:30] that didn't finish their developments [00:16:32] in a timely fashion. [00:16:34] And we have right-of-way access in front of them [00:16:37] so that we could put up some kind of a barrier. [00:16:40] Not a barrier, but something that says, [00:16:43] you know, city of New Port Richey, [00:16:45] progress underway, or whatever. [00:16:47] Because we lived with that situation [00:16:50] at Main and Grand for almost two years. [00:16:54] I just want them to be able to have money in the budget [00:16:58] to come to us and say, I've got this idea, [00:17:01] or I want to be able to add better signage, better [00:17:06] notification. [00:17:08] You know, if he wants to go buy breakfast [00:17:10] for the board of realtors, so that he can bring them in. [00:17:14] Because part of the other thing later [00:17:15] is, we've got a whole series of surplus property here, [00:17:19] and I don't know whose silo that's [00:17:22] going to fall under. [00:17:24] But if we want to generate revenue [00:17:26] to do other economic development things, [00:17:29] I just want to make sure they've got some dedicated tools [00:17:32] to do that in talking about. [00:17:36] So those are my examples. [00:17:39] One thing I would definitely, I may agree with both sides [00:17:41] of that, but I will say, as far as marketing [00:17:43] the accomplishments thus far, since we decided to kind of [00:17:48] bring you on, instead of using the PEDC to the extent [00:17:51] we're using them, you know, a great example [00:17:53] is when Councilman Davis had the leadership, PASCA, come, [00:18:00] and we all split up and did tours around the city. [00:18:03] And these were folks attending this program [00:18:06] from all over the county. [00:18:07] And pretty much everyone in my group had no idea. [00:18:11] Sims Park was almost done. [00:18:12] They'd never heard of the Dulcet. [00:18:14] They didn't know that Main Street Landings was pretty [00:18:16] close to being back on track. [00:18:19] They had no idea that we had a Before Brady's coming in. [00:18:22] Had no idea where we were with the Hacienda. [00:18:25] And they were very, very impressed when we did our tour. [00:18:28] But I guess I agree with Councilman Phillips. [00:18:30] It'd be nice to be able to market what we've done so far. [00:18:33] I think that will help attract potential investors [00:18:36] down the road as well. [00:18:38] We've done some really good things [00:18:39] and just kind of been quiet about it. [00:18:40] Unless you live here, you don't really know. [00:18:42] So I don't know the best way to go about doing so. [00:18:44] But just that tour alone just got the word out quite a bit. [00:18:48] And I'm sure you all had the same response [00:18:50] in your particular groups. [00:18:53] Just food for thought. [00:18:54] Just a little piggyback on that. [00:18:56] It was the best part of that day for the class. [00:19:01] That's the feedback that I got. [00:19:07] Thank you very much. [00:19:07] Thank you. [00:19:11] Mrs. Wong, you're up next. [00:19:15] We've got the human resources budget for you. [00:19:19] Thank you. [00:19:28] Good evening, Mr. Mayor and members of Council. [00:19:30] Tonight, I will be presenting the human resources budget. [00:19:33] Just a quick overview of the Human Resources Department. [00:19:36] We're responsible for supervising [00:19:38] the overall operation of the city's employment practices [00:19:41] and risk management functions. [00:19:43] The division assists the city manager [00:19:45] in formulating administrative principles, practices, [00:19:48] and policies throughout the various city departments. [00:19:52] First, under professional services, [00:19:54] you'll see a dramatic decrease in account 2511, [00:19:58] which is unemployment compensation claims. [00:20:01] This was decreased from $31,000 to $10,000. [00:20:06] The past few years, average spent in this account [00:20:09] was $6,000. [00:20:15] That will decrease the personnel services 15.35%. [00:20:20] Next, under operating and capital expenses, [00:20:23] the first one is 3199, professional services [00:20:28] miscellaneous. [00:20:30] This account has been decreased from $13,000 to $10,000. [00:20:35] This account is mainly used for pre-employment drug screenings [00:20:38] and background screenings. [00:20:39] The past few years, the average spent in this account [00:20:42] has been between $6,000 and $8,000. [00:20:46] Next, under account 3413, employee support program, [00:20:55] this account has been increased from $4,000 to $6,000. [00:20:59] This is to accommodate the two employee luncheons that we have [00:21:03] and to also begin a years of service [00:21:05] program for our employees. [00:21:09] The next increases you will see are in accounts 4511, 4521, [00:21:16] and 4523. [00:21:18] These are the city's liability insurance, [00:21:21] billing and contents, and automobile insurances. [00:21:25] I spoke to our insurance representative, [00:21:29] and they said to expect an overall increase in those three [00:21:33] of 15% across the board. [00:21:35] So it's about 5% for each account. [00:21:39] We won't get those numbers until probably [00:21:42] late August or September, but that's [00:21:44] what they told us to account for. [00:21:48] That increases my total of the department's operating [00:21:52] and capital expense to 3.06%. [00:21:56] And that concludes my presentation, [00:21:58] if you guys have any questions. [00:22:02] Hearing none, thank you. [00:22:10] Mr. Bogart, we have the police department budget next. [00:22:19] And he has several divisions. [00:22:30] Start with police department supervision, if that's all right. [00:22:40] Thank you. [00:22:53] I think we really kind of skated over, [00:22:55] Bernie skated over the fact that we've [00:22:57] saved so much money in workers' compensation insurance, [00:23:01] but it really is to her credit that she's so aggressively [00:23:03] managing our cases. [00:23:05] So thank you, Bernie. [00:23:08] Thank you. [00:23:10] Obviously, we stopped paying somebody [00:23:12] who filed for us after we paid him to go away. [00:23:18] I hate going over that over again, [00:23:20] but I don't have to talk nice about the guy any further. [00:23:23] I don't have to do it. [00:23:25] You know, if you look at that line item, [00:23:28] he filed twice, unemployment against us [00:23:32] after we agreed for him to exit us [00:23:35] in a very professional manner. [00:23:37] And yes, it sticks in my craw every time [00:23:39] I see that budget item. [00:23:41] But you've done a great job this last year. [00:23:43] And obviously, between you, Joe Poblick, and the manager, [00:23:48] been able to manage those employee issues [00:23:51] very effectively. [00:23:52] And we can't thank you enough for that. [00:23:59] I'll be addressing his police supervision. [00:24:02] And because we have for six departments, [00:24:07] divisions within my department to go through, [00:24:10] what I'd like to do is to focus on the things [00:24:12] where there are changes so that, and if you do have questions, [00:24:15] please interrupt me. [00:24:17] The first spot that you'll see a change [00:24:23] is account 1516, which is the health insurance waiver [00:24:29] stipend. [00:24:29] You'll see that's gone down to nothing. [00:24:33] That program is being done away with. [00:24:36] Then the next one is under 2211, the Florida retirement system. [00:24:44] That changes, you'll have, I think [00:24:46] you should have the same notes. [00:24:47] Do you have notes out to the side on yours? [00:24:49] No. [00:24:50] OK. [00:24:50] That is due to a change in rates. [00:24:55] The next category is the police pension fund. [00:25:01] But I see that that doesn't have an indicator there. [00:25:05] Is that because we don't have a rate yet? [00:25:10] Oh, in this account, yeah. [00:25:12] That's correct. [00:25:13] I only have one person funded through that. [00:25:15] And that, actually, he's in drop. [00:25:19] So that's not, that's why there's [00:25:21] nothing in that this year. [00:25:26] Again, the 2214 is the defined contribution plan. [00:25:32] There's a change in the rates where that has gone down. [00:25:36] The health insurance and all the, [00:25:39] that's actually the increase there [00:25:41] is due to a change in the rate. [00:25:44] And, again, like in the last, like in Bernie's arena, [00:25:53] that has gone down in this category several thousand [00:25:57] dollars. [00:26:01] Employee physicals under 3131, we [00:26:05] don't have as many vacancies at this point. [00:26:07] And I anticipate less of those physicals. [00:26:11] Pay all the physicals out of that line, chief? [00:26:14] Yes, sir. [00:26:14] Every applicant that we have, once they're. [00:26:17] Every applicant? [00:26:18] Yeah, once they're actually, not I misspoke. [00:26:21] Any applicant who makes it through the process [00:26:23] and gets a conditional job offer, [00:26:24] and we begin their process. [00:26:26] When all that stuff comes back, we [00:26:28] send them off for a comprehensive physical. [00:26:29] Very good. [00:26:30] Thank you. [00:26:36] Contractual services has gone up a little bit. [00:26:39] That, that's 3499. [00:26:42] That particular category tends to go up and down, [00:26:45] depending on who we have contracts with. [00:26:47] The increase there, the $4,000 increase, [00:26:50] is due to the new software that we're bringing on board, [00:26:54] Southern Software. [00:26:55] That's for our records management system and our CAD. [00:26:59] I don't think we have 3499 in this budget. [00:27:02] No, we do not. [00:27:03] Thank you. [00:27:03] OK. [00:27:06] It goes from 34 to 4011. [00:27:10] It goes from 34 what? [00:27:11] On page 15. [00:27:12] 34, 13, 33 to 41. [00:27:16] Oh, if there's just one. [00:27:18] OK, then there's an insert there. [00:27:21] It shows a line item, and this is something [00:27:23] that we've had in prior budgets of 24. [00:27:28] There's always more than 20. [00:27:31] It's between $20,000 and $30,000. [00:27:33] Usually it's in that account for all of our contracts [00:27:35] that we have. [00:27:36] They fall under the police supervision category. [00:27:40] And it's gone from our amended budget right now of $20,000, [00:27:45] where it's going to be $24,000 in the new budget. [00:27:51] You've apparently made some type of an error, [00:27:53] so we'll correct it so that they all get what you have. [00:27:56] Correct. [00:27:57] Thank you. [00:28:10] For me, the next category with a change [00:28:13] is 4311, which is our electric, our city facilities electric. [00:28:18] And I think due to the efficiencies in our department [00:28:21] in terms of the equipment that's been installed, [00:28:24] but that's dropping $3,000. [00:28:38] Frankly, in that. [00:28:39] Everything else looks good. [00:28:40] I'm not seeing it. [00:28:42] Yeah. [00:28:43] Yeah. [00:28:43] I'm not seeing more in there. [00:28:46] The next category, or the next division, is numbered 62. [00:28:52] That includes our police support services, [00:28:55] which includes our dispatch crime scene and our victim advocate. [00:28:59] And the significant changes there are there's a $20,000 [00:29:13] increase in regular full-time wages. [00:29:22] That's the normal salary increases [00:29:25] across the board for all of the folks that work in that area. [00:29:35] Health insurance stipend, again, 15-16 is going away. [00:29:44] In that department, Chief, which employees [00:29:48] qualify for the pension fund, and which ones [00:29:52] qualify for Florida retirement? [00:29:55] Actually, in that area, everyone. [00:30:00] Dispatch, Crime Scene, and Victim Advocate are all Florida pension. [00:30:06] They're all Florida pension? [00:30:08] Oh, except for the lieutenant that's in there, the division head. [00:30:11] Okay. That's where the pension fund is for the lieutenant? Okay. [00:30:17] Some of them don't work, Jana. Yeah. [00:30:20] I have another question. [00:30:24] Your overtime wages, it's going from like $10,000 to $40,000. [00:30:30] Is it almost worthy of another employee? [00:30:35] Well, this is challenging to predict. [00:30:40] A lot of our overtime is generated in the dispatch area, [00:30:43] and if we have someone call in sick or for whatever reason can't make it to work, [00:30:51] then we're into an overtime mode almost immediately. [00:30:54] In years past, the actuals, if you go back to 1450, in this division, we were at $69,000. [00:31:07] Yeah. Well, that means you got your act together. [00:31:10] Thank you. [00:31:13] But I'm just curious. You expect it to go back. [00:31:17] In all candor, I've asked along the way for an additional position in there, [00:31:22] but it's one of those things. [00:31:25] There's more important areas right now that I feel like the overtime, [00:31:28] I'm able to have some flexibility there. [00:31:31] Sometimes when you have just a single body, [00:31:34] it doesn't accomplish what you really need to be able to do because you only need four hours here. [00:31:38] A flex schedule. [00:31:40] It gives me some flexibility to operate in that mode. [00:31:42] With that, I'm good with it. [00:31:52] Significant change. [00:31:53] If you look at 2311, that's $107,000 in the health insurance. [00:32:01] Chief, we've discussed part of that. [00:32:04] Yes. [00:32:05] Is that as of the end of last week, they got a comparable? [00:32:09] I heard that. I don't know what the rate is. [00:32:11] So that line is going to adjust. [00:32:14] It's going to adjust to our favor. [00:32:17] So there will be that difference. [00:32:20] That number that's there really doesn't have any meaning to us tonight. [00:32:24] We do know that depending on what your wage increase is, there will be a little change. [00:32:29] But, yeah, it will all blend in. [00:32:32] The other component to that is that we have to assume that a certain number of people [00:32:38] that currently subscribe to the payment in lieu of insurance program will opt to participate [00:32:44] in the city's health insurance program. [00:32:47] So we had to program some additional funds there to cover for the potentiality. [00:32:53] What I'll do, starting right now, is as I go through the rest of these, [00:32:56] I'm going to leave that category alone because it's out of my control, [00:32:59] and you'll get the final numbers later to deal with it. [00:33:04] Workers' comp, again, I've heard that with the other divisions [00:33:08] and the other departments that have been up here. [00:33:10] That's going down significantly. [00:33:16] Travel and training for this area. [00:33:19] I do spend a considerable amount of money for training, and we'll continue to do that. [00:33:25] But our trending has not been up to the level that I had at the amended budget. [00:33:29] I've had some personnel changes, and so I'm not sending to them as many training classes [00:33:36] as quickly as I have in the past for other people in there as they fit into their jobs. [00:33:41] So that's been reduced a little bit of $4,000. [00:33:53] Licensing and ID materials, what do they refer to? [00:33:57] What category are you in, please? [00:33:58] I'm sorry, 5241. [00:34:03] Well, that's, if you'll recall, a year or two ago, we developed an in-house training program [00:34:12] for our dispatchers to get them properly certified to be 911 certified dispatchers. [00:34:17] Along with that, there's a state test that they take, and then there's some... [00:34:24] I'm sorry? [00:34:26] Well, and that's what it rolls into is a certification fee that we maintain, [00:34:32] as well as some digital data. [00:34:35] It's a company that we deal with where we have data that we deal with with them. [00:34:43] And then our law enforcement, we have a field training program for dispatchers. [00:34:50] It costs us for a monthly maintenance on that, [00:34:52] so that's one thing that would fall into there as well. [00:34:55] It's a record-keeping system. [00:35:03] Unless you have a question. [00:35:10] The next is police community services, [00:35:12] which is basically our criminal investigation division, our detective division. [00:35:17] You're going to see the very first category, 1299. [00:35:24] The amount in that category went down significantly. [00:35:30] That's because I've moved some officers out of CID into a special squad [00:35:35] that I've spoken to you about before that's a street crimes unit. [00:35:39] So it just pulled that money out of there and subsequently increased it. [00:35:42] It's going to be under the police patrol section when we go over there. [00:35:46] So it's just moving from one account to another. [00:35:54] The off-duty pay, which is 1528. [00:35:58] You'll see a significant increase there. [00:36:01] And, frankly, I think before the budget's over with, [00:36:03] you'll see an even greater amount there. [00:36:05] That's off-duty work. [00:36:06] That's where the officers go work at North Bay or they work at other places. [00:36:09] So as the revenue increases coming in on one side, then there's also that money going out. [00:36:15] It's not directly a part of my immediate operating budget. [00:36:19] Is that where SROs come out of too? [00:36:23] Oh, sir. [00:36:24] That's in another spot? [00:36:25] It's strictly off-duty. [00:36:26] Let me just call it off-duty work. [00:36:28] You know, businesses that hire our officers to perform basically security operations, [00:36:33] like the wing house does that, the hospital does that, [00:36:36] and the hospital expanded our time over there to where we were putting in, [00:36:41] I think we were at eight hours a day. [00:36:45] Now we are at an additional 12. [00:36:49] Yeah, we have a total of 12 hours a day now that officers are there seven days a week. [00:36:53] Does that also include special event stuff that the organizations are paying you? [00:37:00] Part of the overtime budget. [00:37:03] Yeah, well, no, it's 50-50 on that. [00:37:08] Not exactly those proportions, but some of the special events that we do that you authorize, [00:37:15] and as part of the city thing, we kind of absorb that into my overtime budget [00:37:19] where I need extra people. [00:37:21] But then when there's an event that's held by an outside entity, [00:37:25] then that money, you know, where they pay us back, [00:37:29] that actually, if it was detectives that were working it, [00:37:33] you know, they were out there in uniform working that event, [00:37:35] then that money would, I think, fall into that category. [00:37:38] Am I not right? [00:37:41] That's the primary place where you're going to see those dollars. [00:37:45] Can I ask a practical question, Chief? [00:37:49] That off-duty pay, that overtime pay, that special event pay, [00:37:56] does that all go back into their net wages that we pay pension benefits off of? [00:38:03] Yes, it does. [00:38:07] Off-duty as well? [00:38:08] No, I don't think off-duty does. [00:38:19] Isn't their contract limited on how many hours they can go towards pension? [00:38:26] I'm not aware of that restriction on the contract. [00:38:29] That was partially the reason for my question, [00:38:33] is obviously we're doing some in-kind, or we do some in-kind for certain events, [00:38:40] and then that overtime pay that comes out, I mean, you know, [00:38:45] and this off-duty and everything else, they can make some pretty good dollars. [00:38:51] For some reason, 150 hours a year is what I thought would go towards their pension. [00:38:56] We'll get back with you with a correct response. [00:38:59] On both of those issues. [00:39:02] I'm not sure, so I don't want to try to respond. [00:39:06] I just wanted to make sure I understood the math, and, again, it changes periodically. [00:39:25] And I have an answer for you there, and that is actually there's the $70,000 that's there. [00:39:31] That is because we are required to, in the comm center, [00:39:36] to upgrade our equipment in there to something called P-25 compliant. [00:39:41] That is all of our radios that we still have that are not P-25. [00:39:46] It's a more advanced level of communications. [00:39:50] I'm sure Brian could explain the technology behind all that better than me, [00:39:54] but the county is going to a sheriff's office. [00:39:59] All around us are going to it, and we have to go to it. [00:40:03] So it's a fixed thing that we have to do. [00:40:06] But our actual individual radios, the radios in our cars, [00:40:09] they're being swapped out radio for radio at no cost to us [00:40:13] because it's coming out of the penny for pasco money, and the county is taking care of that. [00:40:18] But what we are left with, because we're separate from them with our dispatch center, [00:40:22] is our consoles, the two working consoles that are there, and that's what this pays for. [00:40:28] One time shot. Yes, sir. [00:40:31] Bill brought up a little earlier about a marketing with Mario, [00:40:36] and you have your incentive for fiscal year 17 is launch an anti-prostitution campaign [00:40:43] through signage, social media, and public service announcements. [00:40:49] And I don't see any line item here, but that's kind of a marketing thing, [00:40:54] and I thought maybe some funds might be looked into there, or if we're going to, in my opinion, [00:40:59] and Bill and I have talked a little bit about it at council meetings, [00:41:02] a communication marketing position, that maybe some of that money would be in there, [00:41:08] or maybe it's in this. [00:41:10] I'm sorry, Chief. Go ahead. [00:41:12] Well, we haven't talked. [00:41:14] Debbie and I have spoken about that, and it's something I'm pretty excited about. [00:41:18] I really want to do it, and I was going to rob Peter to pay Paul [00:41:22] and try to figure out where to find the money to do those things, [00:41:25] and some of it is potentially able to do it through maybe some forfeiture money that we bring in [00:41:34] and some of those other avenues that I've come to you in the past with and said, [00:41:37] here's something we want to do. [00:41:39] Can I spend this money for that? [00:41:41] So I was kind of thinking about going down that path and not coming in directly [00:41:45] and asking for it as part of my budget. [00:41:47] I don't know what it would cost at this point. [00:41:51] It's, again, back to the thing that Bill has, it's kind of marketing the city, [00:41:55] marketing them to go somewhere else. [00:41:58] I won't say where, but somewhere else. [00:42:00] I appreciate that because obviously somebody shared something on Facebook the other day [00:42:04] about rankings of cities in Florida, and it just ticks me off [00:42:13] because you can benchmark anything you want. [00:42:18] I can benchmark that I've got too much gray hair, it's too short, it's parted in the middle, [00:42:23] all because of the way they wrote the dynamic. [00:42:27] But again, if we don't address certain causalities of those, [00:42:32] part of it has to do with better policing, better firing, all those. [00:42:37] As Benjamin Franklin once famously noted, there are three types of lies, [00:42:41] lies, damn lies, and statistics. [00:42:44] That particular website uses the numerator as all the crime on anything. [00:42:49] It's in the New Port Richey zip code, and then for the denominator, [00:42:52] they divide it by the city proper population, and it makes us look awful. [00:42:58] That keeps showing up on Facebook about every three or four months. [00:43:02] Somebody starts quoting it again, and it was garbage the first time I saw it, [00:43:06] and it's still garbage today. [00:43:09] The point that we need to be able to get out in front of that stuff and actually. [00:43:14] We're talking in our staff, Debbie's staff, about strategies for that. [00:43:19] I wanted to back up, Chief. [00:43:20] You talked about changing out your monitors and stuff and dispatch and all that. [00:43:24] Consoles, yes. [00:43:25] Consoles. [00:43:26] Those will obviously be the same consoles that they use on the county level. [00:43:32] They're like kind, so whatever the county has, they're going to be compatible [00:43:36] so we can make that statement in a public setting that those are being changed out [00:43:42] just like the ones in emergency management, and so they're all in the same. [00:43:46] Because that was what was going to happen when they were going to do [00:43:48] the consolidated thing at one time, which is past history. [00:43:54] But I just wanted to make sure that those were like, kind. [00:43:57] You're 100% right. [00:43:58] We're all going to be on the same sheet of music. [00:43:59] Okay, super. [00:44:01] Can anybody play? [00:44:04] With the council's permission, I think we can move on to patrol. [00:44:16] You'll see in 1299 that there's an increase in the regular full-time wages, [00:44:24] and I'm asking you for permission to add two additional officers. [00:44:29] I intend to expand my street crimes unit as well as supplement where we need in patrol as well. [00:44:40] There's a couple of positions that I haven't moved back into the areas where they belong. [00:44:45] One is over in our detective division, and before I can do that, [00:44:48] I need to, in order to handle our calls adequately, increase the number of officers that I have. [00:45:00] This is also, as Jan is pointing out to me with her scribbling over here, is that that's [00:45:04] also where those two officers got moved over into this category. [00:45:07] Thank you. [00:45:08] Can we back up on one thing I read on their initiatives? [00:45:12] Increased marine presence along the river, the schedules and workload permit. [00:45:17] Do you have any desire to have our police boat more accessible on maybe a boat lift [00:45:22] like the boat launch? [00:45:24] I'd love to have something like that. [00:45:27] I know from where. [00:45:28] Because we're looking at putting a lot of money into our boat launch facility. [00:45:32] Where Richie has there is you can just drop and go. [00:45:34] Having to go over to Pine Hill Road, hook it up, bring it, drop it, park it, yank it [00:45:42] out every time an officer goes out in the water. [00:45:44] I just think it's something we should look at. [00:45:46] I don't think it would take up too much space, have a lock gate going out to it. [00:45:49] Right across from Sims Park, it shows a police presence on the water. [00:45:53] We're already looking into doing changes to the boat ramp facility. [00:45:57] I think it's something we should look into as to the cost of just building a small little [00:46:03] T-Dock out there with a lift to put our police boat on. [00:46:08] Instead of DAB, it wouldn't be that much? [00:46:10] Something like that would be so advantageous. [00:46:12] Right now, I lose two officers for such an extended period of time just to get the boat [00:46:18] in the water, out of the water, and back to storage. [00:46:21] You could drop and go, and hop in your car, and go on to whatever. [00:46:25] I think it's something we should really consider. [00:46:26] Excellent point, Mr. Starkey. [00:46:27] Great. [00:46:28] If you could be part of phase two of the park. [00:46:32] Just so you get consensus, I agree with that. [00:46:34] So that gives you two or three or four of us to put that presence there on the river. [00:46:41] Great idea. [00:46:45] How many of our officers are marine certified? [00:46:51] Right now, well, I have about four or five, but what's happened is some of those folks [00:46:56] have been promoted along the way, and they're not as successful to me. [00:47:01] So actually, we're looking forward to when the next training school is, and I intend [00:47:06] to send a couple of officers to that. [00:47:08] But short answer to your question is, right now, I have two that are readily available [00:47:12] to me. [00:47:14] I would really, I mean, considering that I want to, you know, I think this is a river [00:47:19] city that we need more than the two plus two, you know, really. [00:47:24] I had five. [00:47:25] Five or six. [00:47:26] Yeah. [00:47:27] I mean, I could see it slowly that everybody's qualified, or at least two or three people [00:47:32] on each shift. [00:47:33] You know, it's just the accident that could happen that we could never recover from because [00:47:39] we didn't have the qualified people would be enormous. [00:47:42] And I'm working toward that, to where I have some available. [00:47:44] Some don't want to do it. [00:47:45] Right. [00:47:46] Well, I understand that. [00:47:47] So, yes. [00:47:48] Chief, I've got just a question. [00:47:49] I don't want to call it a concern. [00:47:50] I'm just trying to understand this. [00:47:51] Obviously, you said you moved a couple of people into this department from the other. [00:47:52] That was one. [00:47:53] You're asking for two additional people. [00:47:54] Is that the way that I understand that? [00:47:55] Yes, sir. [00:47:56] So you've got two more. [00:47:57] I've got, is there any way, as a note, and not from your point, but from Crystal and [00:48:20] the manager's perspective, you know, we show this off-duty pay. [00:48:24] I mean, is there any way to make a note that kind of, that if somebody looked at this one [00:48:30] page in the budget, they would go, gosh, that's doubled in a year, you know, and we say we're [00:48:36] receiving revenue on another place. [00:48:40] I know you probably can't show the net number because it's into your department. [00:48:45] Just trying to, you know, trying to have a tool by where we can explain part of that. [00:48:50] And then, of course, the overtime elements. [00:48:52] I'm just trying to, a better way to know that if it's going up to 160, but I'm offsetting [00:49:01] it by income that's X, it doesn't really look like it's a true increase or total impact [00:49:10] to your department. [00:49:11] And that's the public relations side of it a little bit. [00:49:15] Understood. [00:49:16] And Crystal, is there a way to do that? [00:49:19] I think that would be helpful. [00:49:23] Yeah, just because, you know, people can, once again, the mayor talked about Benjamin [00:49:28] Franklin, but you can cite specific any page in this budget and somebody could go in and [00:49:35] try to pick it apart. [00:49:36] I'm just trying to make sure we got the discussion point. [00:49:38] Mr. Mayor, Crystal and I just noticed that the part-time wages, there's an error there. [00:49:45] We're showing a sizable increase in part-time staff. [00:49:49] And we're not proposing one. [00:49:50] So the next version of this will have the correction. [00:49:55] And my only other thing is, is this where we show or we factor in that makeup money [00:50:03] that we do to the police pension that were required here and a couple other places? [00:50:11] Because this year, through the pension board, and that's a larger conversation I'd love [00:50:16] to have before we get through with budget, but we have a police pension board and we [00:50:21] have a fire pension board. [00:50:24] We obligate them to operate and then we have to make up differences. [00:50:32] But in the same token, they're making business decisions that impact the city's bottom line. [00:50:38] I'm not sure that decisions that are made that we shouldn't have more involvement in [00:50:46] it, or in case in point, only because I looked at those reports all this last year, is that [00:50:54] the money marketing firm, they two have emerged together. [00:51:00] I would have never known about it unless I read it in the police pension board minutes. [00:51:05] And we had to make, even though we had it in our budget, we had to make a one-time lump [00:51:09] payment to kind of true up that pension fund for the year. [00:51:14] It was like $100,000, $130,000. [00:51:17] That's our obligation. [00:51:18] We obviously know that. [00:51:20] It's just that I want to make sure that those impact items, either we have more input in [00:51:28] or we know about them, because they are part and part of our budget, is because of the [00:51:32] obligations we have to our union employees. [00:51:36] So I'm just trying to make sure, because in past years it could have been an unfunded [00:51:42] mandate or an unfunded form, and also we have to find that money somewhere else in [00:51:46] the budget. [00:51:47] It's a larger discussion, but I think it's important to understand that those costs are [00:51:54] being allocated throughout your department, same thing on the fire department side for [00:51:59] the union employees. [00:52:00] I'm just trying to make sure that we've got the right model in place. [00:52:05] I just have one question. [00:52:07] You said you brought two people in and you're looking for two. [00:52:11] Are we looking at four vehicles for $100,000 or $90,000, or are two already in there? [00:52:15] We're looking for two. [00:52:16] What is the number? [00:52:17] Actually, if we're going to the vehicle portion, that is, we are asking for a total of six [00:52:23] vehicles, and those are strictly replacement vehicles. [00:52:28] We can get six vehicles for $90,000? [00:52:31] No, $211,000. [00:52:32] Yeah, but from $120,000. [00:52:36] Give me the account that you're looking at, please. [00:52:38] $64,000, $14,000. [00:52:40] My numbers may not be the same as yours in that category. [00:52:47] I'm at $211,000, $592,000. [00:52:49] Yeah, but we went from $122,000 last year. [00:52:53] Oh, $122,000 was what we spent last year, so ... [00:53:02] Oh, this ... [00:53:05] We're looking for four more vehicles? [00:53:07] Let me explain what's happened. [00:53:09] We are looking for a total of six vehicles that are replacing vehicles, high mileage [00:53:14] and vehicles that require a lot of repair, that need to be deadlined. [00:53:18] We're replacing those, but the difference is, in years past, all the equipment that [00:53:24] goes in the vehicles was separate. [00:53:27] It was in separate accounts, separate line items, and those numbers were significant. [00:53:32] It costs a lot to outfit a vehicle. [00:53:35] With this, all the equipment is ... [00:53:38] Okay, that's exactly where I'm going, because ... [00:53:40] That's what's making the difference. [00:53:41] Because you came to us and asked for vehicles, and you came to put lettering on the vehicles, [00:53:45] and you came to put lights on the vehicles, and you came to put radios on the vehicles. [00:53:48] That's ... Yeah. [00:53:50] Yeah, so we are not doing that. [00:53:52] We are coming to you with our handout one time. [00:53:54] Okay, okay. [00:53:55] That's kind of ... That makes a lot more sense here than, too, with the dollars. [00:53:58] And Chief, you're adding four people to this division? [00:54:02] No, let me back up. [00:54:03] I think there's a misunderstanding. [00:54:04] I'll make it clear. [00:54:05] I simply took two people that were in other areas of the department and moved them. [00:54:11] They were our community policing officers. [00:54:14] They were in the detective division and handling caseloads and not doing crime prevention [00:54:20] related type things that I needed them to do. [00:54:23] I simply moved those bodies over. [00:54:25] But now I'm asking for two new positions. [00:54:28] One, to make up for what I took away with the caseload when I moved those folks out [00:54:32] of the detective division. [00:54:34] And one, to go into this unit, because this unit is being incredibly productive [00:54:39] in making drug cases, prostitution cases, and some of those street crimes related things [00:54:44] that patrol can't address nor can CID. [00:54:47] So that's why I'm asking for the two bodies. [00:54:49] I'm only asking for two in that area. [00:54:51] Right. [00:54:52] So with that said, your clothing and apparel, you went from $35,000 to only $25,000. [00:55:00] Pretty well. [00:55:01] I've re-uniformed. [00:55:02] Because everybody's got the uniforms even though they're moving into another department. [00:55:05] Yeah, I've re-uniformed a lot of folks. [00:55:07] And we're all now wearing the same kinds of things. [00:55:10] And it cost me over the last couple of years to make all of that happen. [00:55:16] Now I've got it to where we're controlling. [00:55:18] We used to have a lot of different kinds of uniforms out there. [00:55:20] Now we've narrowed it down depending on what function the officers are doing. [00:55:24] And because they're already outfitted, I just have to really worry about the new ones [00:55:29] and normal wear and tear on clothes. [00:55:31] Thank you. [00:55:33] You're done with that category? [00:55:43] I just don't see in code enforcement anything that significant to speak about. [00:55:50] I think we're staying relatively the same in most categories. [00:55:59] Unless you have a question. [00:56:01] Maybe a line item for some game cameras. [00:56:04] River Drive Park, again, they picked up Friday. [00:56:08] And there's an area of Palm Fronts larger than this table the very next day. [00:56:13] I talked to Liz about it today. [00:56:15] I know she's got people watching, but we've got people dumping in the city. [00:56:19] I've talked to Brian a little bit about that. [00:56:22] I think he might have something for you, Jeff. [00:56:24] I won't need to do a line item for that. [00:56:27] No, getting a little facetious on the line item. [00:56:30] We definitely need it. [00:56:32] I think he was telling me, Jeff, that he has a possibility of a portable camera [00:56:37] that we can move to different spots. [00:56:39] That would be really good. [00:56:41] We're working on it when we've got a formal recommendation. [00:56:45] It's just a shame, literally, there's a black patch of dead grass [00:56:49] half the size of this room, and then 12 hours after it's picked up, it's covered again. [00:56:55] The last category is the Special Traffic Enforcement, [00:57:00] which I'm asking for that position. [00:57:04] This is the individual that we've had two part-time individuals [00:57:09] handling red light camera as well as our impound lot. [00:57:13] And the impound lot process, managing the impound lot, has grown significantly. [00:57:20] We have, I think, not the next meeting, but probably either the next meeting [00:57:26] or the one following, I'll be coming in and notifying you [00:57:30] that we're moving 47 vehicles out of our lot to put them in auction [00:57:36] and to manage all of that and release vehicles. [00:57:39] That job has just expanded, along with the red light camera responsibilities. [00:57:43] We've rotated through a number of people in that position [00:57:47] because it was part-time, so I'm asking for that to be increased [00:57:51] to a full-time position. [00:57:55] With that, I don't have any other comments in this category. [00:57:59] That's the one that's also handling the golf carts? [00:58:03] Oh, yeah, and the increased workload of that as well in there. [00:58:07] I'm curious about that. [00:58:09] Oh, yeah, and the increased workload of that as well in there. [00:58:13] I'm keeping my little car indoors so you guys can't stick around. [00:58:17] Krista, could you do us a favor instead of me going home and doing this? [00:58:20] Could you take his departments and give us just the bottom line [00:58:23] so we can get a look at the whole department? [00:58:27] Just the estimate amended budget and where we are now [00:58:33] so we can see what kind of increase, decrease, and difference. [00:58:37] I'm sure it's an increase, but... [00:58:41] Thanks for your time. [00:58:49] Yes, Mr. Mayor, members of the Council, [00:58:53] the next budget presentation that we have for you [00:58:57] is from the Recreation Department, and Ms. Smith will present [00:59:01] to you this evening. [00:59:11] It looks like on some of my figures, too, on the salary on recreation [00:59:15] may need some revisions to them, [00:59:19] but the biggest changes we have so far, what we're requesting [00:59:23] is with the division head salary, we're requesting to [00:59:27] take the aquatics manager position and morph that into [00:59:31] an assistant director, and that would reflect under the recreation side. [00:59:35] And then these are some figures I think need to be [00:59:39] possibly revised. We are requesting to take [00:59:43] as you heard in the 5 o'clock meeting, to add two [00:59:47] part-time fitness center supervisors, and I think [00:59:51] this was put in as full-time for that. [00:59:55] And then skipping on down to [00:59:59] contractual... [01:00:00] services. Just for your information, that's what we pay out to our instructors. That's [01:00:03] the 70% we pay out of what we collect from various recreational programs. The contractual [01:00:11] services miscellaneous, that $50,000 is for the master plan. The increase that's reflected [01:00:18] under telephone and local, that is for our alarm system and our phones. And then the [01:00:24] next line increase is with the new type of equipment we have in our fitness center, they [01:00:29] now require data lines. So that's increased for that as well as computers. Skipping down [01:00:36] to maintenance equipment, that again is the fitness center. Maintenance on the new equipment [01:00:42] that we have coming in. [01:00:43] The 4621? [01:00:44] Correct. I'm sorry, I should do it that way. [01:00:48] Yeah, thank you. [01:00:50] And then you see a big increase on 4961, which is special events hosted by the city. That [01:00:59] is for Cody Mann primarily. We didn't really have money in our budget to put that event [01:01:04] on even though we do draw in revenue on the other side from that. [01:01:07] Can we get a figure on the revenue that comes in on that one, please? [01:01:11] I can give you roughly, it's about $7,000, but I don't have an exact figure with me. [01:01:16] And then we're looking at adding some possible new special events also. So that was increased. [01:01:23] 4965, city-sponsored programs. The increase for there is the money that has been expended [01:01:32] this current fiscal year to put on the concert series that we're doing in Sims came out of [01:01:37] city council's budget, I believe. And we're requesting to go ahead and just put that money [01:01:41] into recreation budget. And that's for also other things that we do city-wide, such as [01:01:46] the river cleanup and various events like that. [01:01:48] Those concerts have been phenomenal. [01:01:50] Thank you. Thank you for that. [01:01:52] What was that splash thing? What was it called? [01:01:58] Summertime in the City? [01:01:59] Yeah. [01:02:00] Yes. [01:02:01] Would that be in this X and 2? Do we recover at $5 a person the cost of those slides by [01:02:07] chance? [01:02:08] Oh, yes. [01:02:09] Okay. [01:02:10] We more than pay for the slides. [01:02:11] Okay. [01:02:12] Yes. [01:02:13] But that's in city events. [01:02:14] That's in city events, correct. [01:02:15] Right. [01:02:16] Yes, city-sponsored programs, city events. [01:02:17] Yes. [01:02:18] The only difference is whether or not we charge for the event. [01:02:23] Right. [01:02:24] Then break those two different for me, then. City-sponsored programs and city. And where [01:02:30] is the other one? [01:02:31] Let me grab this real quick on this other. I have it explained better here. Okay. 4961, [01:02:40] special events, city-hosted. Those would be events and things that we generate revenue [01:02:46] for. So that would be Summertime in the City, our Zombie Run, Cody Man, miscellaneous events [01:02:52] like that that we generate revenue. If you go further down to 4965, city-sponsored programs, [01:03:01] those are events that we host that we don't generate revenue for, the concert series, [01:03:06] the movie nights in the park, the walks that we do with council, any number of events that [01:03:12] we do year-round, the holiday events related. [01:03:14] Then that's just the special events, city-hosted. I'd like to know the revenues that come in on those. [01:03:19] Sure. [01:03:20] Did you have a question? [01:03:21] Yeah, just a quick question. So going up to the division head salaries, you said you were [01:03:26] wanting to take the aquatic director's salary. [01:03:33] And that will show on the next, when I go into their budget. But we're recommending [01:03:37] to take that position out of the aquatics budget and move it into recreation and then [01:03:43] create an assistant director position. [01:03:45] Okay, so that would be the difference between the 104 and the 385? [01:03:50] The impetus for doing that is two-fold. First, the aquatics director position currently is [01:04:00] full-time. We don't believe that some of the off-season hours are used as efficiently as [01:04:08] they could be. And there's some need in the department for some programming and some other [01:04:13] functions that don't happen as well as they could be. So we think that if we convert the [01:04:20] position to an assistant director position, that we'll get more of those things done. [01:04:27] And the aquatics person would have the additional hours to devote to those additional responsibilities. [01:04:35] You're zeroing out 11-12 under aquatics, so there's... [01:04:40] And if I could go back to Councilman Davis's question about the revenues, too. Under special [01:04:48] events, I know you don't have the revenues there, but special events city-hosted, we're [01:04:52] projecting, with Cody Man, summertime in the city and a couple other smaller events, $13,000 [01:05:00] in revenue. And as of May, for this current year, we were already over $12,000. [01:05:07] Let me go back to that salary thing then. You know, it seems that he was somewhere around [01:05:14] $45,000, and we had somewhere around $38,000 already at division head salaries. If I add [01:05:20] those two together, it's not making $104,000. So is there... [01:05:25] Well, a typical assistant director in the city is in the neighborhood of $65,000, if [01:05:30] you look at other departments. [01:05:32] We haven't slated the position anywhere in the salary schedule at this time. This is [01:05:38] just a placeholder. [01:05:39] Okay. [01:05:40] The only other thing in this budget, Elaine, from our earlier discussion this evening with [01:05:47] regards to the consultant, I don't see anything about the website creation and or the management [01:05:55] of that particular service. [01:05:59] That would be under the software, and that comes in IT's budget, right? [01:06:03] Below. [01:06:04] Okay. [01:06:05] I can't even talk at this hour. You are anticipating that one of your existing employees will be [01:06:20] able to do the updates for the website? [01:06:23] Yes, correct. Yes, absolutely. I'm sorry, I didn't understand the question. [01:06:27] There's also the creation of the website, and it's not highlighted in the budget. [01:06:33] Brian, do you want to come on down, please? [01:06:36] And while Brian's coming to the thing, and so that personnel that... I think they had [01:06:42] between $650,000 and $1,200,000 a year to... Was it a year? To manage that website. Is [01:06:50] that what you're... [01:06:51] You just made it sound much easier than I was projecting it to be. I have a hard time [01:06:57] believing you just create a website and it runs itself. I mean, it's basically what he [01:07:00] said. [01:07:01] Brian? [01:07:02] In the proposal that we'll review tomorrow, it's a two-year agreement, which includes [01:07:06] the development of that front-facing website along in conjunction with the software, and [01:07:12] the second year of maintenance is part of that agreement. So that's why it doesn't appear [01:07:15] in the 2017 fiscal budget under recreation. [01:07:21] Okay. Under... Under 5241, licenses and ID material, that increases the public viewing [01:07:38] rights where we do for the family movie nights in Sims Park. The next one, 5243, is just [01:07:46] some... With some of the new software that we're going to need to have. And then 5246, [01:07:55] the actual marketing budget had been at $55,000, or excuse me, $25,000, and then somehow been [01:08:01] cut back to $19,000, so we're requesting to go just a little bit above what we had originally [01:08:05] had to just have some more aggressive marketing campaign, so that would put that up at $30,000. [01:08:12] The 5251, janitorial supplies, janitorial supplies are now under public works. We are [01:08:21] requesting $1,000, though, because we need to purchase fitness center sanitizer, the [01:08:27] Whizzer equipment, or spray. And then, we're not doing capital, correct? [01:08:34] Not this evening. We have a separate evening. [01:08:37] Correct. Okay. [01:08:39] Separate evening for capital improvement. [01:08:42] When you get around to doing that, you may want to hit the city manager up for either [01:08:48] another or a much larger popcorn popper. The last movie in the park, the line was never [01:08:54] less than about 25 or 30. [01:08:56] That's true. [01:08:57] I'd like to also revisit having the second movie screen, or the second monitor installed [01:09:05] in the park. I mean, we start off with two. Everyone agreed, not everyone, but the vote [01:09:10] went to one. I think we've had tremendous feedback on the one that's there, even prior [01:09:14] to using it for Chasco and Bike Week. Symmetry alone just keeps you from having to take trees [01:09:21] down so everyone can see the same screen. I just think it would look so much better [01:09:25] with two, and it's been received quite well from what I've heard, so if we could keep [01:09:30] that in mind. I'd hate to add one five, six, seven years down the road. They should kind [01:09:34] of be in line. We're purchasing in the same, I would say, 12, 18 months. [01:09:39] Back with our CIP, we're going to fold that in with the phase two for Symm's Park. [01:09:43] Very good. [01:09:44] When we approved the first screen, we asked for a marketing plan, and we still don't have [01:09:50] a marketing plan. [01:09:52] In contradiction to that, I thought we discussed the fact that we didn't really call for a [01:10:01] marketing plan. We were looking to charge vendors and promoters a fee to use the screen, [01:10:09] and I thought the majority of us had agreed that the screens are part of the park, just [01:10:13] like a restroom and whatnot, so I don't know where the marketing plan would tie in, because [01:10:17] we're looking at the marketing plan to determine what we're going to charge the promoters or [01:10:24] whoever's in charge of the events to use the screens, but I thought we agreed that we're [01:10:30] not going to go down that road and the screens are part of the park. [01:10:33] That is a marketing plan, just what you guys have been saying. [01:10:42] That was my understanding, too, in that I was working with the attorney to come up with [01:10:47] language about what people can show and can't show, and that we would charge actually what [01:10:55] our expenses are for the, which is what we did for one event already, charge what our [01:10:59] expenses are for the production crew to use it. [01:11:04] If they opt to use one. We're hoping they will, but not every promoter. [01:11:09] Do you recall this conversation? [01:11:13] I do recall it, and your recollection and mine are pretty much the same. [01:11:21] For the events in the park, I do also agree we need the second one. [01:11:28] The other option that certainly would present itself would be if somebody's ice cream shop [01:11:36] on the corner wanted to pay the city to have advertisements for ice cream running mid-afternoon [01:11:43] on a Saturday afternoon that there's nothing going on in the park. [01:11:47] I don't know that I'd turn their money away. [01:11:50] That's one example, and the other example is I don't think we should break even on a [01:11:56] user fee if it's costing us, let me give a figure of $100 an hour, then we shouldn't [01:12:02] just break even. [01:12:04] We're also maintaining it, so that would be part of the marketing plan where we're asking [01:12:09] these people to reimburse us when they use our production fees, yes. [01:12:15] Those are the type of things that I was looking at in the marketing plan, not, you know. [01:12:21] I don't believe, I think you were going to speak to the sign ordinance, or? [01:12:24] Yeah, we're not certain on what restrictions there might be on advertising, so we're waiting [01:12:30] for a ruling from the legal representative that we worked with on the sign ordinance [01:12:37] to determine what is permitted in terms of advertising. [01:12:41] If it is permitted, what do you all think about advertising on this? [01:12:45] Absolutely. [01:12:46] If it's permitted, it's one of those slippery slope things, I suspect, Lisa's over there [01:12:57] cringing at the thought of having video billboards up and down US-19 and all around town, I think. [01:13:07] If the sign ordinance allowed us to operate advertising on the two video boards in the [01:13:16] park just as part of the normal week, I wouldn't have a problem with it. [01:13:20] I think the other piece of it, and staff has done a pretty good job, I'm guessing, Brian, [01:13:28] is putting a rotating series of, for lack of a better term, ads for coming attractions [01:13:37] in the city. [01:13:38] You know, and if Ice Cream Place wanted to advertise in the midst of that, I would welcome [01:13:44] it, number one, and also, since we just bring up the rec center, we're talking about memberships [01:13:50] being from a city resident, you know, 10 or 15 or 20 percent, whatever we come up with, [01:13:56] I would welcome giving a deduction to the people that are actually, you know, have a [01:14:03] business license in the city, a discount to them, too, and that would be part of the marketing [01:14:08] plan. [01:14:09] If they own a business or reside in the city, we count that as a city resident currently. [01:14:13] Right, but I meant if they were advertising on the screen. [01:14:16] Oh, exactly, that's a good idea. [01:14:20] That's what I'm looking at as a marketing plan, those type of things. [01:14:23] I'd like the legal opinion first, because we've already seen with the advent of the [01:14:30] park and the Pokemon Go people, as well as at our recent concerts in the park, the advent [01:14:41] of free speech and free expression, and what I don't want to get into a situation is somebody [01:14:53] that we're obligated to let everybody be on those boards. [01:15:00] I don't want to deny anybody, but I don't want to create an avenue that because they [01:15:07] can come and pay us that we're not looking at them in the right light, which all comes [01:15:12] back to the sign, because that is a city sign element. [01:15:20] Like I said, we could have some pretty interesting advertising up there that we wouldn't have [01:15:25] a lot of control over. [01:15:29] I don't know. [01:15:30] It's another management element for staff and for legal and everything else. [01:15:37] That's the reason I'd like that opinion, but I'd love their money, love to offset that [01:15:42] to pay, but I also don't want to open the door and be required to let all of that occur, [01:15:52] but that's it. [01:15:54] Major TV stations have some kind of editing, so we must be able to do it at a local level, [01:16:00] too. [01:16:01] I'm interested to see what the legalities are of it. [01:16:04] My personal opinion, once again, I'm one vote out of the table here, is I'm not really in [01:16:12] favor of having businesses use those monitors throughout the week on a regular basis for [01:16:19] advertisement. [01:16:20] I don't think we're going to generate enough funds. [01:16:22] I would much rather see them used for the rec center for upcoming events in the city [01:16:26] over and over again, and let the advertisements be used more during special events. [01:16:33] That's my opinion. [01:16:34] As Councilman Phillips said, it's a slippery slope. [01:16:38] It's why we have regulations on murals in the city, because we don't want someone just [01:16:41] putting something that's extremely offensive out there, and we don't want to say, oh, you [01:16:46] can use it for advertising, but we don't like your business. [01:16:49] We're not going to let you. [01:16:52] I can think of somebody that was waving billboards or hand-held placards at one of the recent [01:16:58] events wanting to advertise on it. [01:17:01] Right, that's just my opinion. [01:17:02] It could get ugly fast. [01:17:03] I respect everyone's opinion. [01:17:04] Bring me a program, and if it's legal, and we can make a business decision at that point. [01:17:10] Absolutely. [01:17:11] I'm in favor of that. [01:17:12] Elaine, if I could ask you one question. [01:17:14] Sure. [01:17:15] Under trucks and trailers, what's happening there? [01:17:18] Well, that's CIP, and I think that's going to be pulled out. [01:17:21] That's on the capital improvement? [01:17:22] Oh, okay. [01:17:23] Yes. [01:17:24] That's going to be another night. [01:17:25] I was hoping you were going to tell me. [01:17:32] Well, I thought it was pulled out anyway, though. [01:17:38] Yeah, you pulled it. [01:17:40] It's gone. [01:17:41] In that case. [01:17:43] Just save $29,000. [01:17:45] When are we going to get more into the nuts and bolts of Phase 2 and what we really want [01:17:49] done? [01:17:50] I've heard interest in under-bridge walkways at Main Street. [01:17:55] When are we going to? [01:17:57] I thought that a good time to stage that discussion would be in conjunction with the capital improvement [01:18:03] budget discussion. [01:18:04] Then do it then? [01:18:05] Okay. [01:18:06] Yeah. [01:18:07] All right. [01:18:08] We're also trying to figure out where that Restore Act money actually was, and Joe was [01:18:14] going to ask, but Joe starts a new job today, so, you know, and I'm under the understanding [01:18:22] that the county wants to keep a little bit of the money in another one of those Restore [01:18:27] Act, not share any of the money in one of the other Pot 3, and so that's enough. [01:18:38] Figure out what we have to work with before we get into what we want to do, right? [01:18:41] The other is if we were to do Phase 2, part of that money was to clean part of the lake [01:18:47] elements, so whether we go ahead and do it and then get reimbursed for it, which my feeling [01:18:54] was, let's get that phase completed so it's done, because we have other things that are [01:19:00] coming up in the next year, year and a half, I believe, so whatever. [01:19:04] Thank you, Elaine. [01:19:05] I'm sorry. [01:19:06] Just one other quick question. [01:19:07] So where in your world does Peace Hall fall? [01:19:12] The maintenance of Peace Hall? [01:19:16] Well, the advertising, you know, you're looking at advertising marketing, and I'm still thinking [01:19:20] that we don't market that. [01:19:21] We incorporate the advertisement in with the recreation budget, and that's in part of that [01:19:25] marketing budget, too, where we've located some different web pages and so forth that [01:19:29] we can advertise that facility on there for rental, and our rentals have already picked [01:19:33] up on that facility. [01:19:35] Okay, good. [01:19:36] Thank you. [01:19:37] Okay? [01:19:38] Thank you. [01:19:39] Aquatics? [01:19:40] Do I do aquatics now? [01:19:41] In the next page you have for aquatics, 11-12, division head salary, you'll see that's a [01:19:48] zero is indicated because we've merged or recommended to merge that position into an [01:19:53] assistant director, and then you'll notice an increase in part-time wages and temporary [01:20:01] wages. [01:20:03] Part of that has to do with if we do take the aquatics manager position away, then what [01:20:09] we would be interested in doing is taking one of the head lifeguards position and for [01:20:13] six months of the year elevate them to an aquatics supervisor full-time so they can [01:20:19] oversee the entire pool operation since we wouldn't have that manager overseeing that [01:20:23] in the other six months. [01:20:24] They would be a head lifeguard just operating the one heated pool through the winter. [01:20:33] Contractual services, 34-99, that has to do with our preventative maintenance on our [01:20:39] pumps and our lightning detector system. [01:20:43] 46-11, maintenance buildings and grounds, pool heater, we need another pool heater, [01:20:49] but LED light conversion, some pool awnings, and just some general regular maintenance [01:20:55] type purchases with that. [01:20:57] 52-41, licensing, that are the required inspections and permits that we have to have for the [01:21:05] water slides from the Department of Agriculture. [01:21:09] And that's it for that one. [01:21:10] 62-99. [01:21:11] 62-99 is capital improvement. [01:21:18] So, Aline, what are you going to wind up with in aquatics full-time and part-time, [01:21:23] and what are you going to wind up in recreation full-time and part-time employees? [01:21:27] Numbers of employees or salary? [01:21:29] Numbers. [01:21:30] You know, numbers of employees, not salary. [01:21:32] Numbers of employees in aquatics would decrease by one, the aquatics manager position, [01:21:38] and then in recreation, we're recommending to increase that one full-time position [01:21:43] for making that, or transferring that position to recreation and making it an assistant [01:21:49] director, and then recommending to add the two part-time fitness center supervisors [01:21:55] to have somebody in there on the fitness floor. [01:21:57] So, total, how many employees would you have in recreation? [01:22:01] Currently, I have 11.93, and the proposed budget is 14.88. [01:22:11] That must have the two child watch in there that we took out until we decided [01:22:18] what the direction was going to be for the child watch facility. [01:22:24] We didn't get a full year impact for that because it doesn't start until you have [01:22:31] the physical plant element to work out of. [01:22:37] It's an annual number, but it only could be two. [01:22:42] And that was part of the increase, too, in recreation, one of the positions, [01:22:46] because last year it was funded one-third, and then now this year it will be fully funded. [01:22:52] So that's part of that, as you're saying, Bill, too. [01:22:57] Questions for me? [01:22:58] No? [01:22:59] Congratulations on that eighth year, consecutive year. [01:23:02] Thank you. [01:23:05] Caprico? [01:23:06] I think we need about a five-minute break. [01:23:08] Okay. [01:23:10] We could do that. [01:23:13] I'm grateful for that, Mr. Mayor. [01:23:16] We've got a presentation of the library budget, [01:23:19] and Ms. Dillinger is going to represent the budget for you. [01:23:24] I have a three-hour presentation. [01:23:30] Sherman, the PowerPoint? [01:23:32] Well, we won't go there. [01:23:33] We have some goals and objectives. [01:23:36] You have them in your budget packet, [01:23:38] but I just wanted to highlight that we're working to prepare [01:23:42] community members for tomorrow's workforce, [01:23:45] and we do that through our educational classes [01:23:48] and training for entrepreneurs. [01:23:52] We're working on creating mobile maker spaces [01:23:55] so that people that want to be creative can come in and do that. [01:24:00] I have good news in that we've been selected [01:24:03] by the state library to be one of the libraries [01:24:06] to provide career online high school, [01:24:09] so we'll be giving out high school diplomas, certified. [01:24:14] And also certifications that go along [01:24:17] with the diploma in different fields. [01:24:21] Is that like a GED? [01:24:23] No, it's a high school diploma, which is really good. [01:24:27] Some employers look more favorably towards that than a GED. [01:24:34] So those are some of our goals and objectives. [01:24:39] We want to retain and develop our existing staff. [01:24:43] We want to serve more community members, [01:24:46] and we want to comply with the Florida Public Library [01:24:49] outcomes and standards. [01:24:51] And I don't think you want me to go through [01:24:53] every one of those tonight. [01:24:55] We made a slide here. [01:24:57] It's a highlight of the substantial changes. [01:25:00] And you can see the personnel did increase [01:25:03] a little over $28,000, [01:25:06] and that was due to raises in the insurance cost. [01:25:11] There were no new personnel. [01:25:13] Internet reference services went up. [01:25:16] Say your number when you... [01:25:18] Say the code number. [01:25:20] Oh, okay. [01:25:21] 3428, Internet Reference Services. [01:25:24] Internet Reference Service. [01:25:26] We've added in some money [01:25:28] so that we can upgrade the electronic books. [01:25:32] We have a lot of requests for that now. [01:25:36] 4211, postage, and the 4799, printing and binding. [01:25:41] That was for the city newsletter. [01:25:43] That's a deductive of $10,000 [01:25:46] because that's moved to the city manager's budget. [01:25:49] 5243, computer supplies. [01:25:53] We want to replace two of our ten laptops, [01:25:56] and that's about $2,500. [01:25:59] 5298 is a pass-through from a grant. [01:26:05] 6612, library materials. [01:26:08] We're requesting $11,750 additional [01:26:13] so we can update some outdated areas in our collection. [01:26:17] I'm sorry, what number was that, Susan? [01:26:19] That was 6612. [01:26:24] You can go to the next slide. [01:26:27] And if you look at the slide, [01:26:29] you'll see the rest of the accounts, [01:26:32] how they changed back and forth. [01:26:35] The red indicate decreases. [01:26:37] The others are increases. [01:26:39] But I didn't know if you wanted me [01:26:41] to go through every line item, [01:26:43] whether it went up $310 or went down $60 or what. [01:26:47] If you want me to do that, I'd be more than happy to. [01:26:52] But the total increase in the library budget [01:26:55] was $31,654, which is a 3% increase. [01:27:03] And by the way, Creative Loafing, [01:27:06] we've been nominated for Best of Bay for Public Library. [01:27:09] So please go vote. [01:27:11] Best of the Bay, you said? [01:27:14] Just out of curiosity, [01:27:15] how did you pull off the Band of Books concert? [01:27:20] Ann worked with the Twins and Leah, [01:27:25] and that's the Rock the Boat Productions, [01:27:28] and they handled finding the bands and doing PR. [01:27:33] I believe they did the PR for that. [01:27:37] That was the coolest little concert [01:27:40] every night down by the river. [01:27:42] Two more, so come on out. [01:27:47] Anybody else have anything? [01:27:49] No, I was out of town. [01:27:51] The mayor told me about that little concert. [01:27:53] It was phenomenal. [01:27:54] It was really nice to have, [01:27:56] and where's our parks and rec people? [01:27:59] You guys got the guy from the snow shack [01:28:02] to serve snow cones, [01:28:04] which given the heat during the summer [01:28:06] was an absolute godsend. [01:28:08] He had a pretty good line [01:28:10] most of the evening, too. [01:28:12] It worked out. [01:28:14] Everybody seemed to be having a good time. [01:28:16] We want to support local business, [01:28:18] and we do that any way we can. [01:28:23] Anything else? [01:28:25] You got us, thank you. [01:28:27] Anything else for the good of the organization? [01:28:31] We can communicate tonight. [01:28:35] I'd like to thank you. [01:28:37] You projected in the last meeting [01:28:39] to look into the cost savings, [01:28:41] the potential cost savings of expanding [01:28:43] the work obsolete towards the east [01:28:45] is definitely worth looking into. [01:28:47] If we could accomplish the goal [01:28:49] and save money there, [01:28:51] I'm very interested to see what Hennessey [01:28:53] has to say regarding the cost [01:28:55] of having it up front or in the back [01:28:57] of the building with the expansion. [01:28:59] Great point, and I'm glad you brought it up. [01:29:01] I'd just like to thank our city manager [01:29:03] and all the department heads. [01:29:05] I know we just show up here and listen [01:29:07] to you all, but I know so much work [01:29:09] goes into preparing these budgets [01:29:11] with each of your departments, [01:29:13] and you've been working very, very hard [01:29:15] and you've done a phenomenal job, [01:29:17] so thank all of you for that. [01:29:19] Thank you for your kind words.

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