Council adopted revisions to the Transfer of Development Rights program and new detached-garage rules in front yards, and swore in Police Chief Robert Kochen.
18 items on the agenda · 13 decisions recorded
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Pledge of Allegiance
Pledge of Allegiance and moment of silence in honor of service members.
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[00:00:17] Please stand, join me in the Pledge of Allegiance and remain standing for a moment of silence [00:00:22] in honor of our service men and women at home and abroad. [00:00:26] I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America [00:00:30] and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God,
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Moment of Silence
The council observed a moment of silence following the Pledge of Allegiance.
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[00:00:35] indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. [00:00:42] Thank you. You may be seated.
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Approval of January 11, 2023 Work Session and January 17, 2023 Regular Meeting Minutes
approvedCouncil approved the minutes from the January 11, 2023 Work Session and January 17, 2023 Regular Meeting.
- motion:Approve the January 11, 2023 Work Session and January 17, 2023 Regular Meeting minutes. (passed)
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[00:00:44] The next item on the agenda is the approval of the January 11th and January 17th meeting minutes. [00:00:49] I move approval. [00:00:50] Second. [00:00:51] Any discussion? Hearing none, all those in favor, please signify by saying aye. Aye. [00:00:58] Motion passes. Ms. Manz, we have a presentation of years of service award?
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Presentation of Years of Service Award to Police Chief Kim Bogart
City Manager presented a Years of Service Award and plaque to former Police Chief Kim Bogart in recognition of his 10 years of dedicated service to the City of New Port Richey. Numerous regional law enforcement dignitaries were acknowledged, and Chief Bogart offered brief remarks of thanks.
Clearwater Police DepartmentDade City Police DepartmentNew Port Richey Police DepartmentPasco County SchoolsPasco County Sheriff's OfficePort Richey Police DepartmentState Attorney's Office, 6th Judicial CircuitTampa Police DepartmentTarpon Springs Police DepartmentBruce BartlettChris AlahuzosChris MellikerCyrus RobinsonDan SchlotterJeff HarringtonJeff YoungJim WatersJoe PaschalliKim BogartLauren LatonaLee BerkuMike BaumeisterYears of Service Award▶ Jump to 1:02 in the videoShow transcriptHide transcript
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[00:01:03] Yes, we do, Mr. Mayor. [00:01:05] This year, or this evening, I'd like to start off by expressing my deepest appreciation [00:01:13] to former Chief Bogart for his years of dedicated service to the city. [00:01:18] Before doing so, though, I'd like to say that this is a ceremony that gives me a great deal of pride [00:01:26] for a lot of different reasons. [00:01:29] I feel first, though, that I should acknowledge many of the dignitaries in the room, [00:01:34] but I don't know y'all, so I'm going to fall short, I'm afraid, in that respect. [00:01:40] But I do have to acknowledge Colonel Jeff Harrington of the Pasco County Sheriff's Office for being here. [00:01:46] Thank you very much, Colonel Harrington. [00:01:50] Bruce Bartlett, State Attorney from the 6th Judicial Court, thank you for being here. [00:01:56] Chief Lee Berku from the Tampa Police Department. [00:02:01] Chief Dan Schlotter from Clearwater Police Department. [00:02:05] Chief Jeff Young from Tarpon Springs Police Department. [00:02:08] Chief Mike Baumeister from Pasco County Schools. [00:02:13] Chief Jim Waters from Dade City Police Department. [00:02:16] Chief Cyrus Robinson from New Port Richey Police Department. [00:02:20] And former Mayor Chris Alahuzos from the City of Tarpon Springs. [00:02:26] I'd also like to thank the command staff from the City of New Port Richey, [00:02:31] Deputy Chief Lauren Latona. [00:02:34] I also have Lieutenant Joe Paschalli and Lieutenant Chris Melliker in attendance. [00:02:40] Many of the officers on staff, and I see some Fire Department personnel as well. [00:02:46] Thank you for being here and supporting our former chief [00:02:51] and our chief that we will be appointing this evening. [00:02:56] Chief Bogart, without question, served with distinction. [00:03:01] Through him I learned about true leadership. [00:03:05] And when I say that, I learned that leadership is a lifestyle. [00:03:11] It's really not a position and it's really not a title. [00:03:16] It requires passion. [00:03:18] It requires humility. [00:03:21] It requires a commitment to personal advancement. [00:03:26] And he was always committed to those things. [00:03:29] I never had the chance to appoint Kim Bogart as a police chief [00:03:36] because he was already seated as a police chief when I took over as city manager. [00:03:43] But he did select me as his city manager, no question about it, from day one. [00:03:51] He worked hard along with me [00:03:53] and demonstrated loyalty and commitment to our goals and our objectives in this city. [00:04:00] And I have to thank him because the city truly is a better place for his service [00:04:07] during his 10 years in the city of New Port Richey. [00:04:11] And Chief Bogart, if you would like to meet me up front, I have a plaque for you. [00:04:17] Thank you. [00:04:19] Thank you. [00:04:50] Would you like to say a few words, Chief? [00:04:51] Yes. [00:04:52] Thank you. [00:04:54] I'm just going to say a few words, and that is that it has truly been an honor [00:04:59] and a privilege to be part of this city and to be your chief of police. [00:05:04] I expected to be here maybe three years, and it ended up 10. [00:05:09] And what helped to drive that is the fact that this city is moving forward so fast. [00:05:15] So much got accomplished in the last 10 years. [00:05:18] I'm just thrilled to have been a part of that. [00:05:21] I can't say enough to compliment the men and women that work at the police department. [00:05:26] I think they are outstanding, and you should be very proud of your police department. [00:05:30] And thank you for the support that this commission, this council, has given me over these 10 years. [00:05:35] Thank you very much. [00:05:38] Applause. [00:06:04] Any further comments? [00:06:06] Or we're ready to...
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Swearing-In of New Police Chief: Robert P. Kochen
approvedCity Manager appointed Robert P. Kochen as the new Chief of Police, succeeding Chief Bogart. The City Clerk administered the oath of office, and Chief Kochen outlined priorities including state accreditation, technology, transparency, and community policing. Representatives from Congressman Bilirakis's office presented certificates to both Chief Kochen and former Chief Bogart.
- direction:City Manager appointed Robert P. Kochen as Chief of Police, succeeding Chief Bogart. (passed)
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[00:06:08] I would like to ask the city clerk to... [00:06:11] Oh, not yet. [00:06:12] Not yet. [00:06:13] Not yet, Mr. Mayor. [00:06:14] Okay. [00:06:16] One of the most important responsibilities that I have as your city manager [00:06:20] is making sure that I cast the right people in the right spots. [00:06:25] And this evening I have the privilege to advise you of the fact that it is my choice [00:06:35] to appoint Mr. Robert Cochin as the successor to Chief Bogart. [00:06:41] Mr. Cochin is a retired chief of police with over 32 years of experience [00:06:47] as a certified law enforcement officer. [00:06:50] He has over 21 years of experience in the police administrative level. [00:06:56] He is a proven solutions-oriented leader. [00:07:01] Much discussion has taken place to develop the next steps for the department, [00:07:08] and principally they involve obtaining an accreditation status from the state of Florida, [00:07:16] instituting transparency protocols, and enhancing community policing efforts. [00:07:24] As a city manager, I have no more of a solemn obligation [00:07:28] and no greater honor than to appoint Robert Cochin as a chief of police [00:07:34] as I know him to be a leader of great integrity, respect for the law, and vigilance. [00:07:41] And now the city clerk will administer the oath of office. [00:08:00] I feel like I'm in the academy again. [00:08:03] If you'll raise your right hand. [00:08:05] I, and state your name. [00:08:06] I, Robert Cochin. [00:08:07] A citizen of the state of Florida. [00:08:09] A citizen of the state of Florida. [00:08:10] And of the United States of America. [00:08:12] And of the United States of America. [00:08:13] And being employed by. [00:08:15] And being employed by. [00:08:16] Or an officer of. [00:08:17] Or an officer of. [00:08:18] The city of New Port Richey. [00:08:20] The city of New Port Richey. [00:08:21] And a recipient of public funds. [00:08:23] And a recipient of public funds. [00:08:24] As such employee or officer. [00:08:26] As such employee or officer. [00:08:28] Do hereby solemnly swear. [00:08:30] Do hereby solemnly swear. [00:08:31] Or affirm. [00:08:32] Or affirm. [00:08:33] That I will support the Constitution of the United States. [00:08:36] That I will support the Constitution of the United States. [00:08:38] And of the state of Florida. [00:08:39] And of the state of Florida. [00:08:40] And that I will support. [00:08:41] And that I will support. [00:08:42] Protect. [00:08:43] Protect. [00:08:44] And defend. [00:08:45] And defend. [00:08:46] The Constitution. [00:08:47] The Constitution. [00:08:48] And government of the United States. [00:08:49] And government of the United States. [00:08:50] And of the state of Florida. [00:08:51] And of the state of Florida. [00:08:53] Against all enemies. [00:08:54] Against all enemies. [00:08:55] Domestic or foreign. [00:08:56] Domestic or foreign. [00:08:57] That I will bear true faith. [00:08:58] That I will bear true faith. [00:08:59] Loyalty and allegiance to the same. [00:09:01] Loyalty and allegiance to the same. [00:09:03] That I will uphold the ordinances of the city of New Port Richey Florida. [00:09:06] That I will uphold the ordinances of the city of New Port Richey Florida. [00:09:09] And that I will faithfully perform. [00:09:11] And that I will faithfully perform. [00:09:13] All the duties of chief of police. [00:09:15] All the duties of chief of police. [00:09:16] Of said city. [00:09:17] Of said city. [00:09:18] So help me God. [00:09:19] So help me God. [00:09:20] Thank you, Judy. [00:09:21] And I would like to introduce our speaker, Dr. Laine Ranley. [00:09:37] Here's the badge. [00:09:42] Yes. [00:09:43] Okay. [00:09:44] I have the badge on, so. [00:09:45] Being a medical paramedic. [00:09:46] Would you like to do the honors? [00:09:47] Yes. [00:09:48] Would you like to do the honors? [00:09:49] Yes. [00:09:50] Would you like to do the honors? [00:09:51] Do not send me to the hospital. [00:09:52] Alright. [00:09:53] She can save you. [00:09:54] Thank you. [00:10:01] Chief, do you have any comments? [00:10:28] Yes. [00:10:29] Once we get the pictures taken. [00:10:30] Thank you. [00:10:43] Thank you, Honorable Mayor, Council Members, City Manager, City Attorney. [00:10:47] How awesome is this? [00:10:48] I get the opportunity to serve my hometown as your Chief of Police, and I say your Chief of Police. [00:10:55] I will say, and I want to piggyback off what the City Manager said, leadership is not about the stars or the badge, [00:11:01] it's about what's right here. [00:11:03] It's about working with people, empowering all those people around you to get the job done. [00:11:08] I have a lot of experience at this, and it's just so humbling to be able to lead the New Port Richey Police Department [00:11:15] and all the fine officers in the back, from the command staff to the officers to the sergeants to the corporals. [00:11:20] There's so much work to be done. [00:11:22] It's a natural progression. [00:11:24] There's never a finish line to being better. [00:11:26] I believe in that philosophy wholeheartedly, we could always be better. [00:11:30] So I just want to touch on a couple things that our City Manager touched on. [00:11:35] Accreditation is really important. [00:11:38] That's one of the things that I have a lot of experience at. [00:11:41] It's one of the things that we're going to start right away. [00:11:44] It's 263 standards of professionalism through the Commission for Florida Law Enforcement Accreditation. [00:11:51] We do it not because it's easy. [00:11:53] We're doing it because it's hard, and it will make us better in the end. [00:11:57] Only about 40% of all Florida agencies are accredited, and we will. [00:12:02] We will. [00:12:03] It may take a little bit, but we will be one of those. [00:12:06] Also, really important to us is having the right technology to do the job. [00:12:10] We're going to be looking at a lot of those avenues. [00:12:13] Officers need good technology to do this job. [00:12:16] We need to work with other agencies. [00:12:18] That's really important. [00:12:19] All the folks here, these are our stakeholders, these are our partners, [00:12:22] and thank you so much for being here to support us tonight. [00:12:26] But if we don't work with people to serve our community, we're missing out, [00:12:30] and we will even enhance those efforts to work with agencies, whether it's PASCO, whether it's FBI, DEA, [00:12:37] whoever it is, we will work with people to better serve our community. [00:12:41] That's really important. [00:12:43] Transparency is another important thing. [00:12:47] Transparency, especially when you're accredited, we have to do all these annual reports, [00:12:50] but transparency just simply means being open and honest with the community. [00:12:55] We are going to be pushing out over time a lot of information. [00:12:58] As council will be privy to, obviously the city manager will be kept up to date every step of the way. [00:13:03] But it's really important to have strong relationships with the media, stakeholders, [00:13:08] council, city manager, outside law enforcement agencies. [00:13:11] So transparency to us is really important. [00:13:14] And, you know, just to touch on community policing. [00:13:17] Community policing is an agency-wide philosophy. [00:13:19] It can't be one person. [00:13:21] It can't be one unit. [00:13:22] It has to permeate the whole agency from the officer on the street to the chief, to the deputy chief, [00:13:27] to the sergeants, to the corporals. [00:13:29] So we're going to be really enhancing some of the efforts we already have. [00:13:32] This department is ready for these challenges. [00:13:35] This department is at a stage where we are ready to move into the future. [00:13:39] We are ready to be the best we can, and that's what I do. [00:13:43] I hate this to be about I. [00:13:44] It's really not about me. [00:13:46] It's about all of us. [00:13:48] But I'm telling you, these officers are eager to go to the next level, [00:13:52] and that makes my job a lot easier as chief. [00:13:54] It makes your job easier and most certainly the city manager's job easy. [00:13:58] But we're going to start with night-eyes programs, with traffic dummy. [00:14:02] We're going to start engaging our community, problem-oriented policing. [00:14:05] We're going to start doing all of that. [00:14:07] And I think you're going to be really happy with it. [00:14:09] So I am here to give you everything, 100%. [00:14:13] I wouldn't have taken this job if I wasn't going to commit to that. [00:14:16] I mean, I was basically retired, getting bored, [00:14:19] counting squirrels on my front lawn, and this opportunity came along. [00:14:22] I mean, my family's from here. [00:14:24] I've been here 27 years. [00:14:25] My daughter, who's a paramedic, used to play at the Ritchie Suncoast Theater [00:14:30] when she was in elementary school. [00:14:31] I helped build the Discovery Playground. [00:14:33] My kids both played there. [00:14:35] This is my hometown. [00:14:36] So I'm really, really humbled and proud to be your chief. [00:14:40] Thank you. [00:14:41] Thank you. [00:14:42] I believe next we have a video presentation. [00:15:00] Paul, congratulations on your new position as Chief of Police for the City of New Port Richey and I know that's your hometown. I know how thrilled you are. I knew you couldn't [00:15:22] stay away. You did such an outstanding job for the City of Tarpon Springs, particularly [00:15:28] during those times when we lost Charlie. Again, Bob, we're here for you. We have your back [00:15:35] and all the officers. We back the Blue 100%. Thank you very much. I look forward to working [00:15:41] with you on all the issues, particularly with this fentanyl issue that's destroying our [00:15:47] communities. We'll be there for you, Bob and the officers. We always back the Blue. God [00:15:53] bless you. Paul. We have a representative from Congressman Villarax's office in attendance [00:16:03] and she would like to make a presentation to former Chief Bogart and also to Chief Coates. [00:16:09] Very good. Come on down. Karen. If I may, I don't mean to turn my back to the House. [00:16:16] I sort of stand at the fore here, but congratulations and messages from the Congress have been well [00:16:21] stated. But in addition to that, I would like to present to you a letter from the Congressman [00:16:26] and a certificate of congratulations on your new appointment as Chief of Police to the [00:16:32] Newport Virginia Police Department. And at the same time, I would also like to present [00:16:36] one to Chief Bogart. Thank you. Thank you very much. [00:16:40] Congratulations on your retirement. Best wishes to you. It was a beautiful letter from the [00:16:53] Congressman as well. And thank you for your service. Thank you for all that you've done [00:16:59] and your statement, your staple is on this evening for which you followed what you did [00:17:06] and you're serving as Chief of Police. Thank you. [00:17:21] Do we have any other dignitaries that wanted to? [00:17:25] Do we have any dignitaries in attendance that would care to speak? [00:17:30] Well, that's unlike them, right? [00:17:34] In that case, we'll take just a real short recess to let the folks that came here for that [00:17:40] clear the room and we'll proceed on.
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Proclamation - Irish American Heritage Month (By Title Only)
approvedCouncil read by title only a proclamation designating March as Irish American Heritage Month.
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[00:17:45] All right. We're going to call the meeting back to order. [00:17:49] Next item is a proclamation designating the [00:17:59] month of March as Irish American Heritage Month. [00:18:05] This is by title only, but didn't want to miss it, especially since I married in O'Connor. [00:18:12] Next item is Vox Pop.
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Purchases/Payments for City Council Approval
approvedon consentCouncil approved purchases/payments by voice vote with no discussion.
- motion:Motion to approve purchases/payments for City Council approval. (passed)
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[00:41:28] Move for approval. [00:41:30] Second. [00:41:32] Any discussion? [00:41:34] Hearing none, all those in favor, [00:41:35] please signify by saying aye. [00:41:37] Aye. [00:41:38] Opposed, like sign. [00:41:40] Motion passes. [00:41:41] Next is second reading ordinance 2023-2268. [00:41:47] This is ordinance number 2023-2268, [00:41:50] an ordinance of the city of New Port Richey, Florida, [00:41:52] providing for amendment of chapter 20 [00:41:53] of the Land Development Code [00:41:55] pertaining to the Coastal Transfer [00:41:57] of Development Rights Program, [00:41:58] providing for the expansion of sending sites [00:42:00] to privately owned properties, [00:42:02] providing for the calculation [00:42:03] of the value of development credits by the city council, [00:42:06] providing for planned development district PDD approval, [00:42:10] providing for removal of the requirement [00:42:11] for conditional use permits, [00:42:13] providing for expansion of receiving sites [00:42:15] to all property within the city, [00:42:17] providing for procedures, [00:42:18] and providing for conflicts, severability, [00:42:20] codification, and an effective date.
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Second Reading, Ordinance No. 2023-2268: TDR Revisions
approvedCouncil adopted on second reading Ordinance No. 2023-2268, revising the Transfer of Development Rights (TDR) program to allow private developers to transfer rights into the city bank, permit transfers out of the coastal high hazard area to other parts of the city, eliminate the conditional use permit requirement, and incorporate TDRs into PD rezoning. Between first and second readings, language was cleaned up to use a transfer certificate process instead of a deed and to exempt city-owned property from the covenant requirement unless approved by council.
Ord. Ordinance No. 2023-2268
- motion:Motion to approve Ordinance No. 2023-2268 on second reading, revising the TDR program. (passed)
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[00:42:25] Mr. Hall. [00:42:27] Thank you, Ms. Manns. [00:42:29] This ordinance is a revision to an existing ordinance [00:42:32] that we have about the TDR program, [00:42:34] the Transfer of Development Rights. [00:42:36] Transfer of Development Rights [00:42:38] are basically taking development ability in one property [00:42:43] and transferring it to another, [00:42:45] a different property within the city. [00:42:47] The ordinance as written now [00:42:49] allows for the transfer from city property [00:42:53] into a city bank in that coastal high hazard area [00:42:56] to other properties within the coastal high hazard area. [00:43:00] And this revision does one of a couple things. [00:43:04] One, it expands the program to allow [00:43:07] for private developers the opportunity [00:43:10] to transfer their development rights into the city bank [00:43:14] for the city to determine, [00:43:16] with the approval of the city council, [00:43:18] to have these transfer of development rights [00:43:21] put to properties within the high hazard area [00:43:25] or in other areas within the city altogether, [00:43:27] so transferring from the high hazard into other areas. [00:43:30] It also eliminates the need for a conditional use permit, [00:43:34] streamlining the process, [00:43:36] and incorporates a TDR [00:43:38] into a planned development district rezoning requirement. [00:43:41] I'd be more than happy to answer any questions you may have. [00:43:45] Okay, open it up for public comment. [00:43:48] Seeing none, bring it back to council. [00:43:50] Mr. Mayor, if I could just make one comment as well. [00:43:52] Yes, please. [00:43:53] Between the first and second reading, [00:43:55] we made some other revisions to the ordinance, [00:43:57] and I just want to make sure [00:43:58] that those are highlighted for you. [00:44:00] We cleaned up some of the language [00:44:02] with respect to the way that the rights would be transferred, [00:44:05] took out the requirements for a deed, [00:44:07] and stuck with the transfer certificate process. [00:44:11] We also addressed the covenant running [00:44:12] with the land being imposed. [00:44:14] I know Councilman Alton's brought this up [00:44:16] and provided an exception for city-owned property [00:44:18] unless the city council approves it. [00:44:20] So there might be properties [00:44:22] that you want to impose the covenant on [00:44:23] and others that you don't. [00:44:25] So that would give you that right, [00:44:26] and those are the only changes [00:44:27] from the first to second reading. [00:44:32] I move we approve. [00:44:34] Second. [00:44:35] To the maker. [00:44:36] So the changes on this existing ordinance [00:44:40] really expands the flexibility of the city [00:44:44] to best utilize development rights [00:44:47] that's available in the properties, [00:44:50] and that flexibility doesn't handcuff us going forward [00:44:56] in future unknown projects that may come up, [00:44:59] but we'll have more. [00:45:00] opportunities to transfer rights and use them. It just gives us a little bit [00:45:07] larger playing field. Yes, and as the title reflects on density, [00:45:16] that's the topic at hand. There are a lot of other issues that affect [00:45:20] development and the ability for us to develop property. We did hear from Mr. [00:45:26] Starkey questioning whether this particular law would apply only to [00:45:31] larger programs, which I think makes sense in the fact that it's a [00:45:36] complicated process. Probably one wouldn't go through it. But the [00:45:42] other thing, of course, is as we look at our city, we're talking about density. [00:45:49] This helps the goal of migrating some density away from the high hazard areas [00:45:54] and into the city. We also have our own ability to have authority to look at [00:46:00] density requirements and the things that affect the density. We have some areas [00:46:07] that have the density that a developer would need, but other parts of our code [00:46:12] would not allow them to develop because they couldn't get stormwater or they [00:46:17] couldn't get parking or they couldn't fit the project in mind. And because our [00:46:24] city is so old and we have such a large portion of our downtown, you know, [00:46:30] really emerging market there, with so many properties that are receiving [00:46:36] those additional requirements of parking and stormwater where their buildings [00:46:45] are all just fully built, and because it's been an advice for us in our [00:46:51] downtown, I'm anxiously watching to see us update the densities, including [00:47:00] things like height restrictions. So you can also have a density that's higher, [00:47:04] but if the height restriction doesn't allow, you can't build. So in an area [00:47:10] that has, in contemplating flooding and the flood problems, I think we need to [00:47:15] look at our height issues as well, and particularly those issues that have been [00:47:21] brought up by the mayor and others with respect to ancillary dwellings and all [00:47:26] the other things that can allow us to to accomplish the density that our business [00:47:30] community needs as we go through our redevelopment process. But I'll support [00:47:36] it because it is, it makes sense, and thank you for bringing it. Thank you. Mr. [00:47:40] Murphy. Yeah, I agree with Councilman Altman on the density issue. We really [00:47:44] need to focus and take some time on that, but I'm good with the changes we made [00:47:48] in the first reading and ready to move forward. I agree. The changes will give [00:47:54] us a lot more flexibility with it, too. I think it's a good step forward. I look [00:48:01] forward to the next step, which will be to bring that ADU proposal to us. So [00:48:07] thank you very much. If there's no further discussion, all those in favor, [00:48:10] please signify by saying aye. Aye. Opposed, like sign. Next is second reading on
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Second Reading, Ordinance No. 2023-2269: Amendment to Chapter 12 of the LDC RE: Detached Garages
approvedCouncil held the second reading of Ordinance 2023-2269, amending Chapter 12 of the Land Development Code to allow detached garages in front yards subject to design and location standards (architectural compatibility, setback compliance, no setback variances, unobstructed front entry, and a working 7x7 garage door). Changes from first reading included removing a shipping container prohibition (to be addressed separately) and allowing reorientation of front entries. The ordinance passed on a voice vote.
Ord. Ordinance No. 2023-2269
- motion:Motion to approve Ordinance 2023-2269 on second reading, amending Chapter 12 of the LDC regarding detached garages. (passed)
6235 Floridaend of Washington StreetGeorge RomanoliMr. MurphyMr. PetersMs. VanceChapter 12 Land Development CodeLand Development Review BoardOrdinance 2023-2269Section 12.03.00alley improvement budgetcapital improvement plan▶ Jump to 48:19 in the videoShow transcriptHide transcript
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[00:48:19] ordinance 2023-2269. This is ordinance number 2023-2269, an ordinance of the [00:48:27] City of New Port Richey, Florida, providing for amendment of section 12.03.00 [00:48:31] of chapter 12 of the Land Development Code pertaining to detached [00:48:36] storage buildings and greenhouses, providing for detached garages, providing [00:48:40] location and design standards for detached garages, providing for [00:48:44] severability, providing for complex, providing for codification, and providing [00:48:47] an effective date. Ms. Vance? Sure. This agenda item is before you as indicated [00:48:56] by the City Attorney for a second reading, and there were some [00:49:01] modifications to it based on the discussion that took place at the first [00:49:07] reading. The recommendation is still to allow detached garages to be situated in [00:49:16] the front yards of properties. The restrictions, though, have been expanded [00:49:26] somewhat. It still includes that the structures must be contained within [00:49:34] the existing setbacks of the property and that the garage must be [00:49:42] architecturally compatible with the principal structure on the property. It [00:49:47] also includes that the front entry must be unobstructed, and that's been expanded [00:49:53] to include the stairway, the porch, and the landing. The architectural [00:50:00] compatibility is defined to include facade, roof, and windows, and a free [00:50:10] vision zone is also to be retained. The other consideration is that there will [00:50:20] be a provision that no variances will be allowed for a reduction in the [00:50:25] front yard setback. That's been included as well as part of the legislation that's [00:50:31] before you this evening. With that, we're recommending that you consider approving [00:50:35] it at second reading. Open up for public comment. [00:50:46] Thank you, George Romanioli, 6235 Florida. Two things. First, either City Attorney or [00:50:54] a Planning Director to confirm in their discussion that the Part 12.03.00 [00:51:00] Section 2C only refers to garages that are in the front yard and not... [00:51:07] He's shaking his head yes, so that's one thing. So I looked at my [00:51:11] garage, because I have a detached garage, not in the setback, a little farther back [00:51:15] actually, and it was a one of those built before I owned the house, is one of those [00:51:22] that you buy at those, buy a garage place. If I bought it today and I wanted to put [00:51:30] it, you know, in the front yard, before the setback, that's a wooden [00:51:37] structure. My house is a concrete block structure. But if you look at [00:51:42] them, they look compatible. I just think we need just to look a little bit more, [00:51:46] and maybe as we write the policy manual in the Planning Department to implement [00:51:52] this ordinance, we look at how hard we want to look at things. Because color is [00:51:56] a big thing. My house is white. My garage is white. If it was in the front of [00:52:03] the house, I don't think anybody would object. You know, we do have these things [00:52:06] where I know there were some houses on the river that had garages in the front [00:52:10] that were totally abominations. We have that house at the end of Washington [00:52:14] Street that has that monstrosity there. We don't want that anymore. But I think [00:52:18] we just need to look that, especially if someone wants [00:52:22] something in the front yard and they buy one of those kit buildings, you know, give [00:52:26] them some allowances that the architectural style may be a little bit [00:52:29] different, but not impact the neighborhoods, not impact our city so [00:52:33] bad. So when we, again, when we write the policy to implement this ordinance, let's [00:52:38] think about that in their consideration. Thank you. Anyone else? Seeing no one else [00:52:47] come forward, bring it back to Council. Mr. Mayor, if I could address a couple of [00:52:50] items as well. There are a number of changes that were made between the first [00:52:56] and second reading. I just want to highlight those briefly, if I may. Number [00:53:00] one, we removed the prohibition on shipping containers because that really [00:53:05] was put in here rather parenthetically, and we really think that that is a [00:53:09] subject matter that needs its own treatment. So we propose to come back to [00:53:13] you with something more substantial with respect to that issue. One of the [00:53:17] discussions that was had at the first reading had to do with corner lots, and I [00:53:22] just want to point out that we didn't make any change related to that because [00:53:25] corner lots only have one front yard, and the restrictions, as Mr. Romanoli [00:53:32] pointed out, only apply to front yards, these number of restrictions that are in [00:53:36] subsection C of the ordinance. So the setback, the no setback variance [00:53:41] restriction, would not apply to a side yard in a corner lot, which may be a [00:53:46] street side side of the building. So just wanted to point that out to you, that [00:53:52] there is only one front in each structure. Each property has to have at [00:53:56] least one front yard. Other than that, the other changes that were made, I just [00:54:02] want to point out to you as well, is on C1, the Land Development Review Board was [00:54:10] adamant about having the detached garage not obstruct the front entrance of the [00:54:16] main structure, but when we looked at different ideas for how people could add [00:54:22] these, it was really determined that there were ways that they could reorient [00:54:27] the front of the house or the entry to the house without necessarily having to [00:54:33] move the front door, which might be an obstacle that they could not meet. So we [00:54:39] added language that allowed the owner to establish a new front entryway through a [00:54:45] stairway, a porch, a landing, or some other type of architectural feature that would [00:54:49] reorient the front of the house so that wouldn't be necessarily prohibited to [00:54:53] have the garage actually obstructing the front door, the actual front door. And we [00:54:58] also addressed the issue with respect to the garage door by requiring at least [00:55:04] one working garage door of a 7 by 7 foot, which is basically a standard type of [00:55:09] garage door. It would not prohibit anyone from also having a golf cart entrance or [00:55:14] any other entrances, but we wanted to make sure that this structure was really [00:55:18] designated as a garage, and then that it would have access to the street from [00:55:23] that garage door for a driveway as well. So those are the only changes that were [00:55:27] made between first and second reading, and I'll be happy to answer any [00:55:31] questions about those. I move we approve. I'll second. So, you know, I like this [00:55:43] ordinance for a couple reasons. One, it will allow people additional garage [00:55:48] space and some lots, and it'll do so without deteriorating from the [00:55:52] architectural design of this city. You know, I can think of an example of a [00:55:57] relatively recent build house that was houses on the river, and I'm sure they [00:56:05] spent a pretty penny building the house. It looked like nice, and then they put a big [00:56:10] shiny silver storage shed, and I'm not even sure it's within a setback, but [00:56:17] right up front, and they tried to disguise it with a little vine growing [00:56:21] on it, and it's anytime I go by there with somebody else, they go, I didn't, I [00:56:25] don't worry you guys allow that to happen. So I'm not sure how that happened, [00:56:29] but this ordinance will, I think, does a couple things, allows people to utilize [00:56:34] it. I mean, we have some, we have some pretty deep lots. You know, I think for [00:56:39] example, homes that might have an alleyway, and they may be garaged in [00:56:47] the back, but there may be a time in the future they want a garage in the front, [00:56:51] so the back might be some other type of ancillary dwelling, if we so permit that. [00:56:58] I just, I think that the key for this is some of the guidelines in the looks [00:57:10] and the placement that it goes along with the rest of the house. Like George mentioned, [00:57:15] it's white and white, and you know, what the roof lines and the windows look [00:57:20] like, and it's a true garage, and heaven knows with cars and golf carts, we need [00:57:26] more places to park our vehicle. I like the ordinance. Yeah, I agree with [00:57:31] everything Mr. Peters had to say. I know that same, that same property, and yeah, we [00:57:38] want to make sure that architecturally they look the same. I think that it would [00:57:42] be better to have a garage in the front yard that's, that looks nice, than parking [00:57:47] in the front yard. So I think that that will kind of clean up some of the cars [00:57:52] that are parked in their yard to begin with. That hideous garage is right down [00:58:03] the block from me. The previous property owner put it up after he finally got [00:58:10] through with a zoning request that his neighbor across the street vehemently [00:58:16] objected to, and one could reasonably guess that that thing was constructed [00:58:24] immediately in front of the other fellow's front door as payback, and it is [00:58:30] ugly, and there's no getting around it. I think Mr. Romanoli's point about these [00:58:37] things ought to match color-wise would have made all the difference in the [00:58:42] world, but as it stands, we've got this hideous aluminum thing sitting literally [00:58:47] right across the street from the one person that objected to the rezoning [00:58:54] application that the guy wanted when he was getting ready to build his house. [00:59:02] Councilman? I think, you know, the discussion about this came as an [00:59:12] ordinance, and I don't know where I missed our discussion asking for it, so [00:59:17] I'm kind of curious how the ordinance was determined to be put in front of us, [00:59:24] but it's, I can find that out privately or whatever, but your discussion about [00:59:32] cars parking in the yards and all that, you know, I walked around town a little bit [00:59:37] today, and the number of automobiles that are parked in some of our up and down [00:59:45] state streets on a regular basis is not controllable. I don't know, I know we've [00:59:53] got an ordinance, I know we have a rule, I know you have to have a curb, and you [00:59:57] have to have a nice driveway, and it's a... [01:00:00] The idea was passed and approved. [01:00:05] But what we really would have is just an explosion of code enforcement if we really wanted to take a day, [01:00:12] especially with a new energized code enforcement service. [01:00:22] I'll just bet any one of you that we could drive around and find at least 200 vehicles parked in an illegal way, [01:00:31] according to our ordinances. [01:00:33] So just happy to see that we're trying to do something. [01:00:38] I'll support it. [01:00:39] I know we've talked forever about trying to solve this problem by working on alleys, [01:00:44] but we have $50,000 in the alley improvement budget this year or whatever we've got in it, [01:00:51] which is really just not significant and doesn't reflect a real purposeful intent to make something happen with our alleys. [01:01:02] The alley solution is a big solution. [01:01:05] We're lucky to have it. [01:01:06] It's been said by architects, planners, consultants. [01:01:09] They're all over the place for years and years. [01:01:13] So we need to address them. [01:01:15] Now that we've named them and we've got some movement going, [01:01:20] I really want to encourage that we have some input, which I've been asking for for four years, on our capital improvement plan. [01:01:27] Waiting until August for it to be delivered to us in order to vote for it is not going to be acceptable. [01:01:34] So we have to make improvements that can solve the parking problem. [01:01:39] Some of it may be part of looking at the street design as well. [01:01:44] I have brought up time and time again the property on Lemon or whatever where that collision center has been built, [01:01:52] and now it's been completed, and now the landscaping is there. [01:01:55] Is this about the ordinance or parking? [01:01:57] It's about parking. [01:01:59] Is it about the garage ordinance? [01:02:00] Well, you are the maker of the motion and the second, both brought up parking. [01:02:04] So I'm no lawyer or anything, but I'm telling you, you talked about the parking problem. [01:02:08] And I'm happy for you to shut me down if you would like to. [01:02:12] Well, I think we have time to talk about parking without the ordinance. [01:02:16] We are drifting a little bit off topic. [01:02:20] Garages are for automobiles? [01:02:23] Is there a need for automobiles? [01:02:25] I don't know. [01:02:27] Was it the need for parking that brought this ordinance to us, or was it a need for looking at the look of the city? [01:02:35] How did we get the ordinance, I guess, is my question. [01:02:38] Maybe that's off topic, too. [01:02:40] So I've said enough, but apparently not enough about an issue that's been raised at the council for time and time again [01:02:48] to which has been ignored, which is how are we going to look at our streets in order to best accommodate vehicles? [01:02:57] And we have some wide right-of-ways. [01:02:59] We have some wide roads. [01:03:00] But thank you for stopping me. [01:03:02] I'll try to see if I can get something on the agenda to discuss it. [01:03:06] Thank you. [01:03:07] Mr. Murphy? [01:03:08] Yeah, as far as the ordinance, I like the ordinance and the changes. [01:03:12] I've always liked the, as long as it was done properly and having these guidelines for it, [01:03:17] I think it builds a little character to the house, having the garages on the front. [01:03:22] It's a little different. [01:03:24] But anyways, I like it. [01:03:29] All right. [01:03:30] Any other discussion? [01:03:32] Hearing none, all those in favor, please signify by saying aye. [01:03:35] Aye. [01:03:37] Opposed?
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2023 Sanitary Sewer Manhole Lining Project
approvedCouncil approved an agreement with Concrete Conservation Incorporated for $199,873.96 on a piggyback contract for the 2023 Sanitary Sewer Manhole Lining Project. The project will rehabilitate 52 structurally deficient manholes, mostly in the Magnolia Valley subdivision, which is outside city limits but within the city's utility service area.
- motion:Motion to approve the agreement with Concrete Conservation Incorporated for $199,873.96 for the 2023 Sanitary Sewer Manhole Lining Project. (passed)
Magnolia Valley subdivision, north of Mass Avenue and just east of Rowan RoadConcrete Conservation IncorporatedMr. Rivera2023 Sanitary Sewer Manhole Lining ProjectCapital Improvement Program▶ Jump to 1:03:39 in the videoShow transcriptHide transcript
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[01:03:39] Motion passes. [01:03:41] Next is the 2023 Sanitary Sewer Manhole Wining Project. [01:03:49] It is, Mr. Mayor. [01:03:51] And the request before you this evening is to enter into an agreement with Concrete Conservation Incorporated [01:04:00] for an amount of $199,873.96 on a piggyback contract for sanitary sewer manhole rehabilitation. [01:04:16] And Mr. Rivera will present the agenda item. [01:04:20] Yes, this is an annual maintenance program that you're aware of. [01:04:24] This year we've identified 52 manholes that are structurally deficient. [01:04:29] The majority of those manholes are located in the Magnolia Valley subdivision. [01:04:34] That's north of Mass Avenue and just east of Rowan Road. [01:04:38] It is outside the city limits but within our utility service area. [01:04:44] The project is included in the current capital improvement program, [01:04:48] and with that we would recommend your approval. [01:04:52] Thank you. [01:04:53] I'll open it up for public comment. [01:04:55] Seeing no one come forward, bring it back to Council. [01:04:58] Move for approval. [01:05:01] Second. [01:05:02] To the maker? [01:05:03] No comment. [01:05:04] Second. [01:05:05] No comment. [01:05:06] Councilwoman? [01:05:07] Nope, nothing to add. [01:05:08] Councilman? [01:05:09] Oh, he's not there. [01:05:10] He's not there in that case. [01:05:13] There being no further discussion, all those in favor, please signify by saying aye. [01:05:17] Aye. [01:05:18] Aye. [01:05:19] Opposed, like sign. [01:05:20] Motion passes. [01:05:21] Next, 2023 sewer improvements.
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2023 Sewer Improvements – Task Order No.17 Engineering Services
approvedCouncil approved Task Order No. 17 with Sprout Engineering, not to exceed $124,500, for engineering services on the 2023 sewer system improvement project, which includes replacement of approximately 2,100 feet of 8-inch force main in Tanglewood Terrace and rehabilitation of two lift stations (Maplewood and South River Road north of Linder Place). Funding comes from water and sewer construction funds.
- motion:Approve Task Order No. 17 with Sprout Engineering for engineering services on the 2023 sewer improvement project in a not-to-exceed amount of $124,500. (passed)
High StreetMadisonMaplewoodSouth River Road just north of Linder PlaceSprout EngineeringMs. MannRobert Rivera2023 Sewer System Improvement ProjectSCADA controlTanglewood Terrace subdivisionTask Order No. 17Water and Sewer Construction Funds▶ Jump to 1:05:25 in the videoShow transcriptHide transcript
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[01:05:25] This request is for City Council to review and consider the approval of task order number 17 [01:05:31] with Sprout Engineering in an amount not to exceed $124,500 [01:05:37] for the engineering services associated with the 2023 sewer system improvement project. [01:05:45] And Mr. Rivera, could you please describe the project? [01:05:50] I'm waiting on the PowerPoint. [01:05:59] It's behind you, Robert. [01:06:01] Now it's in front of you, too. [01:06:02] All right. [01:06:03] So this is the 2023 sewer improvement project. [01:06:06] This is for engineering services. [01:06:09] Of course, with this project, we have two main components. [01:06:12] They are the force main replacement and extension phase, as well as a lift station rehabilitation. [01:06:19] We have three locations as part of this project. [01:06:23] The first two locations are located in the Tanglewood Terrace subdivision. [01:06:27] That is just east of Gulf High. [01:06:31] The first location we're proposing to replace approximately 2,100 feet of 8-inch force main [01:06:38] where we would tie it into the lift station at Maplewood and head north and tie into High Street, [01:06:45] and then we would abandon the existing 6-inch force main. [01:06:50] Location two is the rehabilitation of the lift station that is on Maplewood. [01:06:56] The good news about this is this lift station here and the next lift station, [01:07:01] they are the last two in our system and then will be upgraded for all of the lift stations that we have. [01:07:09] And the third lift station that we'll be rehabilitating is on South River Road just north of Linder Place. [01:07:18] And so the funding that we have is our water and sewer construction funds, [01:07:23] and like Ms. Mann said, our recommendation would be that you approve the task order 17. [01:07:28] This is for the engineering services of the project in a do-not-exceed amount of $124,500. [01:07:36] Thank you. I'll open it up for public comment. [01:07:39] Seeing no one come forward, bring it back to Council. [01:07:44] Move approval. [01:07:46] Second. [01:07:47] To the maker. [01:07:49] Looks like it needs to be done. [01:07:51] Second. [01:07:52] Exactly, it needs to be done. [01:07:54] Deputy Mayor. [01:07:55] Robert, just one question. [01:07:56] You mentioned that these two lift rehab stations are the last two for us to rehab, but we've so- [01:08:02] Yes, sir. [01:08:03] We've gone from what we call the old Smitty cans where people would have to go down into- [01:08:07] What kind of cans? [01:08:08] We called them Smitty cans- [01:08:09] Okay. [01:08:10] Where they would have to go down in the ground in a confined entry space and do a lot of the work. [01:08:15] A lot of this stuff brings everything up in the top. [01:08:17] We convert to the old solid-state electronics, to the PLCs, modern technology for SCADA control, [01:08:24] all of that that we incorporate into the new systems that we have. [01:08:27] So I know we've done the other lift stations. [01:08:29] So what's the lifetime of those stations before they have to be rehabbed again? [01:08:33] Approximately 50 years. [01:08:34] Okay, great. [01:08:38] Still not there. [01:08:41] I had one question. [01:08:45] Part of this is 2,100 feet. [01:08:48] Presumably that's down Madison. [01:08:51] Yes, sir. [01:08:52] Directional board. [01:08:54] Okay, you're not having to tear the street up to do that. [01:08:56] Yes, sir. [01:08:57] Okay. [01:08:59] Any further questions, discussion? [01:09:02] Hearing none, all those in favor, please signify by saying aye. [01:09:05] Aye. [01:09:06] Opposed, like sign. [01:09:08] Motion passes. [01:09:09] Next, amendment to the interlocal agreement with Pasco County.
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Amendment to Interlocal Agreement with Pasco County for Animal Control Services
tabledStaff requested the item be tabled due to an error on the resolution; it will return at the next meeting.
- direction:Council agreed to table the amendment to the Interlocal Agreement with Pasco County for Animal Control Services and bring it back at the next meeting due to an error on the resolution. (tabled)
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[01:09:12] Mr. Mayor, this evening we're going to ask you to table the item. [01:09:15] There's an error on the resolution, and we're going to have that corrected [01:09:18] and bring the matter back before you at your next meeting. [01:09:21] In that case, we will bring it back at the next meeting. [01:09:24] Next is a board appointment for Bertell Butler to the Parks and Rec Advisory Board.
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Board Appointment: Bertell Butler, IV, Parks and Recreation Advisory Board
approvedCouncil appointed Bertell Butler, IV to the Parks and Recreation Advisory Board for a three-year term ending February 7, 2025. Multiple residents spoke in support of the appointment, and the motion passed unanimously by voice vote.
- motion:Motion to approve appointment of Bertell Butler, IV to the Parks and Recreation Advisory Board for a term through February 7, 2025. (passed)
5500 Rivadel Place5508 Vermont AvenuePasco County SchoolsBertell Butler, IVKate ConnellyMs. CoxWayne ScottCultural Affairs CommitteeEnvironmental CommitteeParks and Recreation Advisory BoardParks and Recreation Youth Advisory Board▶ Jump to 1:09:30 in the videoShow transcriptHide transcript
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[01:09:33] Mr. Butler has applied for a position on the Cultural Affairs Committee, [01:09:40] the Environmental Committee, or the Parks and Rec Advisory Committee. [01:09:44] The memo before you is to consider an appointment for the Parks and Rec Advisory Board. [01:09:52] The term of office for an appointment on that board is for three years, [01:09:59] and if you choose to appoint him for a seat on that board, [01:10:05] the renewal would be through February 7th of 2025. [01:10:11] Thank you. [01:10:12] I'll open it up for public comment. [01:10:13] This is my normal policy. [01:10:17] I would let Mr. Butler know this is his last chance to run screaming out of the room saying, [01:10:24] No, not me. [01:10:31] Good evening, Council. [01:10:32] I'm Wayne Scott, 5500 Rivadel Place. [01:10:36] I've known Bertell in a very short time and just want to speak on his behalf. [01:10:41] And I love seeing that the youth is participating. [01:10:44] So he's educated and thoughtful, so I'd like to just say that much. [01:10:52] Thank you. [01:10:53] Anyone else? [01:10:56] I just want to second everything that man just said. [01:10:59] I think Bertell would be a great hire for any position. [01:11:03] He's knowledgeable. [01:11:04] He's dedicated. [01:11:06] He has a lot of life experience that could go far. [01:11:08] I think that's a great idea. [01:11:10] Thank you, Ms. Cox. [01:11:11] Anyone else? [01:11:16] Not to be redundant, but Kate Connelly, 5508 Vermont Avenue. [01:11:20] And we'll third that attestation for Bertell. [01:11:24] He is a wonderful asset to the city, and I think he'll be a great asset to any board, [01:11:28] but particularly the Parks and Rec Board. [01:11:30] So glad to hear it. [01:11:31] Thank you. [01:11:32] Thank you. [01:11:42] I've lived here for over 50 years, and I wish we had more young people like Bertell. [01:11:48] We just don't have enough of them, and we need to encourage more and more. [01:11:52] I don't know how we'll get them in. [01:11:54] I've been really impressed by this young man. [01:11:57] As a matter of fact, if I were 50 years younger, he'd probably have to learn how to run really fast. [01:12:13] Anyone else? [01:12:17] Sure, speak after that. [01:12:21] I would like to briefly express my gratitude toward this council for considering my application [01:12:25] to be a part of the Parks and Recreation Advisory Committee. [01:12:28] It is my hope to provide a younger perspective to the board. [01:12:31] I am a former member of this city's Parks and Recreation Youth Advisory Board, [01:12:35] and I served as the city's Community Engagement Coordinator for the Rec Center [01:12:38] before stepping away to go back to school. [01:12:41] In these capacities, I came to learn and appreciate the role of the Parks and Recreation [01:12:45] and how it plays into maintaining and enhancing the quality of life for our residents. [01:12:50] I believe that my passion for the community, as well as my experience working for the committees [01:12:54] of Pasco County Schools, would make me a valuable asset to the board. [01:12:58] I'm committed to showing up, contributing to a quorum, and working objectively. [01:13:01] Once again, I thank you for your time and consideration, and I look forward to this opportunity. [01:13:05] Thank you. Anyone else? [01:13:08] Seeing no one else coming forward, bring it back to council. [01:13:12] Move approval. Second. [01:13:14] Everybody has said it, and we've heard him time and time speaking politely and intelligently, [01:13:23] so I think he'd be a good member. [01:13:25] Second. [01:13:26] Appreciate you serving. Deputy Mayor? [01:13:29] So, we've got an application for three different committees, right? [01:13:34] Yeah, but just for the Parks and Rec. [01:13:38] So, I just wondered it might be well-suited in another committee. [01:13:44] Okay. Councilman? [01:13:45] I was thinking the same thing. I would love to see him on the Environmental Committee. [01:13:51] Well, I've known Bertel for a while now, and he's a very impressive young man. [01:13:57] And my wife, who is on the Parks and Rec Board, is thrilled to death to have another member joining them on there [01:14:03] so they can actually have somebody miss a meeting without losing a quorum. [01:14:07] So, thank you very much for your willingness to serve. [01:14:12] If there's no further discussion, all those in favor, please signify by saying aye. [01:14:16] Aye. [01:14:17] Opposed, like to sign. Motion passes. [01:14:21] Next, discussion regarding the reestablishment of a Charter Ordinance Advisory Board. [01:14:28] Mrs. Manns. [01:14:34] As I indicated to you in my communication of February 7th, [01:14:42] the Charter Advisory Board Ordinance was established with the purpose to provide recommendations [01:14:54] to Council on certain revisions, additions, or amendments. [01:14:58] And that [01:15:00] ordinance was established in February of 1989 and there were certain elements in [01:15:15] the ordinance that defined the board and some of its functions and there if the
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Discussion Regarding the Re-establishment of a Charter Ordinance Advisory Board
discussedCouncil discussed whether to re-establish a Charter Ordinance Advisory Board to review the City Charter, which has not been reviewed in approximately 27 years. After public comment and council discussion, there was general (but not unanimous) interest in dusting off the existing ordinance and moving forward, with suggestions to first review the advisory board ordinance itself, hold public discussions, and consider including diverse community members including students and Citizens Academy graduates. No formal motion was made; the item was discussion only.
- direction:Council expressed general interest in re-establishing a Charter Review/Charter Ordinance Advisory Board, beginning by reviewing the existing advisory board ordinance, with no formal vote taken. (none)
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[01:15:24] City Council determines that it would like to establish a Charter Review [01:15:31] Board it would need to determine whether or not it wants to do any work to the [01:15:38] Charter Ordinance Advisory Board ordinance or whether it reflects your [01:15:45] current thinking and if not then decision needs to be made as to whether [01:15:55] or not you want to go forward and have a Charter Review Advisory Board. [01:16:15] Bertell Butler 5335 Bellevue Avenue in New Port Richey Florida 34652. Just kind of [01:16:22] impromptu suggestion that I hope that if you do consider to go the route of a [01:16:27] City Charter or excuse me a review of the City Charter and you start to make [01:16:30] up the qualifications and what you're seeking for that committee that you keep [01:16:35] in mind the future generation maybe open it up to students at the senior level at [01:16:41] Gulf High School or in the surrounding community or college students so that [01:16:45] they could also look to our future and they could be incentivized to want to [01:16:50] stay here locally. Thank you. Thank you. Anyone else? [01:16:54] Judith Allen I brought this situation up back in September. We used to have a [01:17:12] standing committee that was a citizens review committee for a lot of things and [01:17:17] this has not been reviewed. We're not talking about a revision of the Charter [01:17:23] to change the structure or the way business is done. The main focus and [01:17:30] function of this is to make sure that the ordinances that the City establishes [01:17:36] are in compliance with the federal laws and the state statutes and we have [01:17:44] unfortunately had some ordinances that did not and caused a problem during the [01:17:51] infamous bike fest. We have a rapid changing situation in our whole country [01:17:59] as far as how we treat CBD, how we do a lot of things. This is not plus the fact [01:18:07] that I brought up the situation we do not have enough citizens involvement. The [01:18:14] involvement unfortunately has been centered in the City Manager's office [01:18:22] and some of you have have talked to me about this. We need more citizens [01:18:29] involved in the committees. Some of our committees of course have had trouble [01:18:34] with their focus, with having a quorum. I don't know why this has [01:18:41] happened but whatever reason it has happened we need to concentrate on [01:18:47] getting the residents involved in the discussions. We have a lot of things that [01:18:53] are going forward. Grand Boulevard is one of those things in redoing Grand [01:18:59] Boulevard. A lot of people on Grand Boulevard were not even notified that [01:19:04] there was the meeting at SIPS. There's got to be more involvement of the young [01:19:12] people and if we have no citizens committees that are involved in making [01:19:17] sure that we at least at the very least comply with the federal laws then what [01:19:25] are we doing here? I mean what are we doing here? I would like to see a [01:19:29] committee that is formed, since we haven't done this for 27 years, when I [01:19:34] was involved with a citizens committee that frequently reviewed the [01:19:40] ordinances and the charter, we did that, had a meeting every three months or so. [01:19:46] Most of the time nothing was done because there wasn't a problem. Whoever [01:19:50] is involved with this is going to know, has to know that this is going to be a [01:19:54] very complex thing because they're going to have to check every ordinance [01:19:58] with the state and federal laws. That's not going to be an easy thing but it [01:20:04] has to be done anyway. So I'm hoping we have some young people with energy and [01:20:09] some of us old people that have history and as you know just about every one of [01:20:14] you have come to me about the history of different things because I guess I've [01:20:20] ended up becoming, because of my age, a long time I've lived here, being one of [01:20:26] the local historians. But we need a lot of people involved and people that we [01:20:33] can trust to not be too excitable or to just get the job done. But 27 years is [01:20:39] way, way too long. Thank you. Anyone else? [01:20:45] I'm not well versed in all of this. I'm not going to speak long. I'm just going to [01:20:51] say that the last time that this city charter was reviewed I was in high [01:20:56] school and I now have children who have graduated college. A lot in this world [01:21:01] has changed since those days, a lot. And I think just to be, you know, a lot is [01:21:09] changing now with the new police chief and everything and we're getting a new [01:21:13] mayor and, you know, I don't, accountability and transparency needs [01:21:20] to be seen through with this. Thank you. Anyone else? I'm seeing no one else coming [01:21:26] forward to bring back to council. [01:21:30] Yeah. Come on down. [01:21:40] Hey Connelly, 5508. I just wanted to quickly say thank you for bringing this [01:21:44] to everybody. I think it's a big project and I can imagine there's a lot of [01:21:49] moving pieces that will be involved but fully support it and the phased, you know, [01:21:54] aspect that it will likely be, I think will be a good process for the city to [01:21:58] start the conversation and if nothing else create a process for renewing it in [01:22:02] the future. So again, thank you. I'll bring it back to council. Let me kick off [01:22:13] something, maybe start a discussion of the existing charter and that is [01:22:22] separate and distinct from the code of ordinances but the existing charter has [01:22:30] at least one Scrivener's error where it is internally conflicting and I think [01:22:40] it's missing something fairly vital which is a review schedule that says at [01:22:46] least once every so many years ought to take a look at it. So I would be [01:22:54] supportive. I had kicked around in my own head the idea of how this ought to be [01:23:01] put together but then I noted we had a charter review committee that was put [01:23:08] together back in the ancient days and one of my colleagues actually signed on [01:23:16] to the ordinance as mayor. So at this point I'm inclined not to reinvent the [01:23:23] wheel. If my colleagues are in agreement I would certainly be supportive [01:23:31] of seeing us dust that ordinance off and see if we can't get something moving on [01:23:39] it. And I say other than the couple of things I've seen, I don't know that the [01:23:45] the charter needs a whole lot but at least it needs somebody to take a look [01:23:48] at it and then perhaps when the committee gets done with that they can [01:23:54] tackle some of the ordinances and I've mentioned this before, we've got [01:23:58] ordinances that date back into the early 1960s and I don't know that anybody has [01:24:03] actually looked at some of them since then. I was in elementary school back [01:24:08] then so maybe it's time but I'll toss it out for other discussion. I'll say I have [01:24:16] no objection to doing that. It's been a long time and you know it's worth [01:24:21] looking at and maybe setting up some kind of schedule. So are we talking about [01:24:26] because we're looking here at the ordinance and that that sets up the [01:24:31] advisory board and you know if we're if we're going to look at things maybe [01:24:37] that's where we start. You know we might look at this ordinance and make sure [01:24:42] that it is maybe a review of that that we just actually set up the board [01:24:46] correctly. I mean if we're going to start this road to review things seems like [01:24:53] makes sense there. I'm not sure that you know a lengthy long drawn-out review of [01:25:03] the charter would provide any in-depth important revisions unless there's [01:25:13] somebody out there that wants to make some major changes as far as the form of [01:25:18] government, want to eliminate term limits, want to impose stricter term limits. You [01:25:28] know I haven't had anybody you know call to do those type things and and if we [01:25:34] want to make those changes with a charter we have that ability as a [01:25:38] council to vote those in and put them on a ballot. The citizenry has a ability to [01:25:44] also make amendments to the charter so if it's the council's wish to go down [01:25:51] this lengthy expensive project I mean a country's 200 years old of course we [01:26:02] haven't revisited the Constitution but on a few times amendments and you think [01:26:06] how many that's been over 200 years I think the government I think the city [01:26:10] has been well served in the order or the charter that we have and if there is [01:26:17] something specifically that we need to do there's easy ways to do that. [01:26:23] Meanwhile you know I don't know necessarily need to go on a type of a [01:26:28] hunt for things. Obviously their verbiage can change somewhat but the meaning [01:26:36] doesn't doesn't necessarily change and I don't know that you know a lengthy [01:26:42] time-consuming review of that would serve best interest of the city's [01:26:47] resources that we could use elsewhere. [01:26:52] Mr. Allman, you were the one that signed off on that last one. What are your thoughts? [01:26:56] Well I remember it well and I know that anytime you have a committee or a board [01:27:02] the members that get put on the board become somewhat influential in terms of [01:27:07] the outcome at the time. I believe that Councilwoman Heather Fiorentina was on [01:27:14] the council she may not have been at that point but her father Colonel Rose [01:27:19] was the chair I think of that board and they went through it line by line and [01:27:27] looked at things that they thought they might like to improve or whatever and [01:27:31] and then they presented them for discussion. I think because of some of [01:27:38] the comments that we've heard particularly related to the city manager [01:27:42] form of government that that we we should clearly as a council outlined [01:27:49] what we're looking for and I've said it before I'm not looking for a change from [01:27:56] the city manager form of government. I've seen how and some of us know how [01:28:01] the old days of our sister city on the other side the river and you commented [01:28:08] on it Mr. Mayor recently we're in charge of departments and that so from [01:28:13] accountability I think that the the system is is well stated in the charter. [01:28:20] I also just want to say that after last week we had the Citizens Academy group [01:28:25] here and the folks that were in that Academy were so impressive and they're [01:28:29] just honest thirst for knowledge and understanding of how the city works and [01:28:34] and we're complimentary and some of them were new and came from out of town and [01:28:39] had exposed what hidden gems to some of us who get lost on them or or don't see [01:28:47] them as hidden gems so I think that to your point Mr. Mayor I don't know how [01:28:56] much time and effort we want to do in creating ordinances but I do want to [01:29:00] make sure that somehow in the process we hold some public discussions about the [01:29:06] charter before we pick the Charter Advisory Committee and that if we pick [01:29:12] folks we want to pick folks that we feel can be professional and and would [01:29:19] would help to forward our own opinions I'll give you one and then it relates to [01:29:25] your your terming out as mayor and the role of mayor that could by many cases [01:29:33] be well suited for someone who already sits on a city council and decides to [01:29:38] run for mayor but the way that our term limits are written right now that you [01:29:42] have nine years anyone of my colleagues sitting up here who would decide that [01:29:47] they wanted to leave office after two years to run for mayor would be would be [01:29:53] restricted to not be able to serve because they would go past the nine [01:29:58] years so [01:30:00] To me, the mayor's role is one that perhaps could be an exception to the term limit role, [01:30:06] because it's a, you run for that yourself. [01:30:10] The other thing is running for individual seats at large. [01:30:14] Those things were created by ordinance and changed by ordinance, if I'm not mistaken. [01:30:19] We didn't have a charter change when you went from two years to three years. [01:30:23] It's in the charter. [01:30:26] That's where one of the Scrivener errors is. [01:30:27] Well, it's not a Scrivener's error, it was changed and not correct in the charter. [01:30:38] Whether it was done right or not, I think citizen involvement and citizens hold government [01:30:46] accountable is critical, and I think the way in which the city runs could use some discussion. [01:30:56] Once again, is this the third class that we have coming up now for Citizens Academy? [01:31:02] I have to say that that group of folks who have been through those academies and seen [01:31:10] how the city works and have understood and been instructed in the charter and all those [01:31:15] things have been briefed, at least, to the point that they would probably be well qualified [01:31:20] to participate in a discussion. [01:31:24] My sense is maybe just a small committee that works off the side may not be as reflective [01:31:31] as some public discussions, public meetings, talking about the charter, reviewing it. [01:31:36] I mean, it would be nice if the whole city understood it. [01:31:40] I'm always on the, oh, I won't say that, I'll be off topic, but I'll wait until communications [01:31:45] to continue to pontificate. [01:31:48] I think how we select it, there will be people that are interested because they have something [01:31:55] they want to pursue. [01:31:57] I think I would prefer to have some open discussions among us about our charter, look at the areas [01:32:04] we would ask that committee to look into to provide us with reports, and again, go back [01:32:11] to the idea of committees at large, which is to serve, to advise, and help to make suggestions [01:32:20] to us on things we want to hear about. [01:32:24] When we had the last Citizens Academy, it was suggested that our cultural affairs committee [01:32:32] identifies and produces events, and they do, I guess, but that's not what the ordinance [01:32:38] calls for, and that's not how committees generally function. [01:32:43] They are separate for that so that they can make, give advice as to what different projects [01:32:50] should be funded, and a lot of the things that we have already just need to be reminded [01:32:57] and redetermined if we like them that way and we go that way. [01:33:01] I think a discussion by the city council could be an early start for me in selecting whoever [01:33:08] would be on this board and how we arrive at that.
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