Council passed Ordinance 2022-2260 allowing outdoor cooking at downtown sidewalk cafes, delayed 30 days, and approved in-kind support for Chasco Fiesta and two other events.
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Pledge of Allegiance
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[00:00:00] I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for [00:00:09] which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
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Approval of September 13, 2022 Work Session Minutes
approvedCouncil approved the September 13, 2022 Work Session minutes.
- motion:Approve the September 13, 2022 Work Session minutes. (passed)
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[00:00:22] Next is approval of the September 30th work session minutes. [00:00:27] I move we approve. [00:00:29] Second. [00:00:30] Any discussion? [00:00:31] Hearing none, all those in favor, please signify by saying aye. [00:00:34] Aye. [00:00:35] Opposed, like sign. [00:00:37] Motion passes.
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Approval of September 15, 2022 Special Meeting Minutes
approvedCouncil approved the minutes from the September 15, 2022 special meeting.
- motion:Motion to approve the September 15, 2022 special meeting minutes. (passed)
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[00:00:38] Next, approval of the September 15th special meeting minutes. [00:00:42] I move we approve. [00:00:44] Second. [00:00:45] Any discussion? [00:00:46] Hearing none, all those in favor, please signify by saying aye. [00:00:50] Aye. [00:00:51] Opposed, like sign. [00:00:53] Motion passes.
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Approval of September 20, 2022 Regular Meeting Minutes
approvedCouncil approved the minutes from the September 20, 2022 regular meeting.
- motion:Approve the September 20, 2022 regular meeting minutes. (passed)
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[00:00:54] Next, approval of the September 20th regular meeting minutes. [00:00:56] I move we approve. [00:00:58] Second. [00:00:59] Any discussion? [00:01:00] Hearing none, all those in favor, please signify by saying aye. [00:01:03] Aye. [00:01:04] Opposed, like sign. [00:01:06] Motion passes.
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Purchases/Payments for City Council Approval
approvedon consentCouncil approved the purchases/payments list as presented with no discussion.
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[00:15:44] Move for approval. [00:15:46] Second. [00:15:49] Any discussion? Hearing none, all those in favor, please signify by saying aye. Aye. [00:15:55] Opposed? Like sign. Motion passes.
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Second Reading, Ordinance No. 2022-2260: Sidewalk Cafe Outdoor Cooking
approvedCouncil conducted the second reading of Ordinance 2022-2260, which authorizes sidewalk and street cafe permittees to cook outdoors during special events within the downtown district. After discussion about an event coming up in three days, the motion was amended to delay implementation by 30 days, and the ordinance passed 4-1.
Ord. Ordinance No. 2022-2260
- motion:Motion to approve Ordinance 2022-2260 as amended to delay application of the ordinance for 30 days. (passed)4–1
Bank StreetMain StreetBoulevard BeefMr. MurphyMs. FarrellMs. Mance2022 Friendly Vet Fest EventChasco FiestaFlorida Department of Health and RegulationOrdinance 2022-2260Section 7.11.19 of Chapter 7 Land Development CodeSims Park▶ Jump to 15:58 in the videoShow transcriptHide transcript
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[00:15:58] Next, public reading of Ordinance 2022-2260. [00:16:02] This is Ordinance Number 2022-2260, an ordinance of the City of New Port Richey, Florida, [00:16:07] providing for amendment of Subparagraph D of Subsection 2 of Section 7.11.19 of Chapter 7 of the Land Development Code [00:16:16] pertaining to construction guidelines for heating or cooking of food within a sidewalk or street cafe, [00:16:21] providing for outdoor cooking within a sidewalk or street cafe during special events within the city [00:16:26] in accordance with the approved sidewalk or street cafe permit, [00:16:29] providing for severability, providing for conflicts, providing for codification, and providing an effective date. [00:16:36] Ms. Mance. [00:16:37] Mr. Mayor, members of Council, as you will recall from the first reading of this ordinance, [00:16:42] the purpose is to authorize both sidewalk and street cafe permittees to cook outdoors during special events. [00:16:51] There was a considerable amount of discussion during the first reading, [00:16:56] and there have been revisions to the ordinance since the first reading. [00:17:03] Some of the revisions include that the event must occur within the special event area or the downtown district, [00:17:18] and the street cafe permit has to be issued authorizing the outdoor cooking, [00:17:27] and all of the activities that are conducted need to be in accordance with the terms approved in the street cafe ordinance. [00:17:38] With those changes that were requested at the first reading by you and which was conducted on September 20th, [00:17:49] the staff is recommending that you conduct your second reading and approve the ordinance. [00:17:54] Thank you. [00:17:55] Thank you. [00:17:56] This is the second reading open for public comment. [00:18:00] Seeing no one come forward, bring it back to Council. [00:18:06] I move we approve. [00:18:10] Second. [00:18:14] I'll second for discussion, not because I missed the whole discussion, so maybe we can have it and fill me in. [00:18:20] To the maker. [00:18:22] Yeah, I think we talked about this quite a bit last meeting. [00:18:27] I think this all started some time ago where maybe the Florida Department of Health and Regulation [00:18:39] found somebody was cooking hot dogs or something outside on a grill, [00:18:42] and I think, Mayor, you were the one that pointed out that maybe this ought to be something to be allowed to happen, [00:18:48] and I think that's where this ordinance generated from. [00:18:51] We spent quite a bit of time reviewing it last meeting. [00:18:57] I think that some of the thoughts behind it was that special events, [00:19:01] there's typically a number of vendors, outside vendors, food trucks, and so forth, that come and frequent the events, [00:19:08] and of course some of our local businesses would say, hey, can we get in on this deal too? [00:19:17] When it happens, can we have it outside our front door or our side or whatever? [00:19:22] So it seems to make sense for those that are constantly here paying city taxes that they have the opportunity to do so. [00:19:30] So for that reason, I'm in support of the ordinance. [00:19:34] The specific change from the first reading was to change it from the typical alcohol zone [00:19:41] to cover the entire downtown zoning district boundary, [00:19:45] so as not to restrict it from anybody that is outside of the alcohol boundary, [00:19:51] but inside the downtown business district. [00:19:54] That's the substantive change. [00:19:58] All right, well, since I seconded it, I'd like to hold off and hear from my colleagues who didn't second the motion, [00:20:03] because I'd like to hear opinions from everybody. [00:20:06] Mr. Murphy? [00:20:07] Yeah, no, I'm fine with the ordinance and the changes. [00:20:11] I guess my only issue would be when it actually goes into effect, [00:20:16] because we have a big event coming up this weekend, and the committee had been working by a certain set of rules, [00:20:23] and this would actually make it change three days before the event. [00:20:27] So my only thing would be if we can postpone it until after this event, [00:20:31] so then everybody is on a clean slate and knows what the rule changes are and can move forward then. [00:20:37] So I was kind of in the same thinking, is that with any events, not even just this weekend, [00:20:42] but if we have any events coming up, I mean, I think that there has to be a certain amount of notice, [00:20:46] because these committees work really hard to build sponsorships and get people to participate in the events, [00:20:52] and anybody that's done events knows that if you don't do what you said you were going to do with those sponsors, [00:20:57] they don't come back another year. [00:20:59] So I don't think that it's fair to make these changes [00:21:02] and then have issues with the event to have issues with their sponsors this close to an event. [00:21:07] I think if we at least gave 30-day notice so that they can then make different arrangements, [00:21:12] I think that that would be more appropriate. [00:21:15] My concern about the whole sponsorship issue was the event coming up this weekend, [00:21:23] and I don't recall the exact amount, but it was hundreds of dollars for downtown merchants to be involved. [00:21:33] So being the second, what does the maker of the motion feel about the request to delay this 30 days [00:21:44] because of the late timing of it with respect to this immediate event? [00:21:49] I don't know that I have a real strong feeling about that, [00:21:52] and the fact that I'm trying to understand it. [00:21:54] Typically, if you do a sponsorship, my thought was it's to be part of the event that you get recognition [00:22:02] and programs and other for your contribution. [00:22:07] You might get little spiffs. [00:22:09] You might get preferred treatment, because I guess if you do that sponsor, [00:22:13] then they can get a location within the event that they want to use, [00:22:18] whereas I think with someone out without the sponsorship, [00:22:22] they're restricted to anything they're going to do is outside their premises, if I'm not mistaken. [00:22:27] That's correct. [00:22:28] So I'm thinking that the people who pay sponsors, those vendors or those businesses and their sponsors [00:22:38] can get them in a nice spot and location, and other people that don't pay the sponsorship fee, [00:22:45] don't get the advertisement, don't get the recognition, and then are restricted to their own premises. [00:22:51] So there's always got to be a start and end date to everything, but I guess that's why. [00:23:00] I wonder just how much of a hardship that gives anybody. [00:23:06] I think it does. [00:23:08] Ms. Manns, you could correct me if I'm wrong, but the charge to be a sidewalk vendor in the general downtown [00:23:18] for this weekend was set at $500? [00:23:21] I don't know, but Mrs. Farrell is in attendance. [00:23:25] Ms. Farrell, could you come up and respond to that? [00:23:27] Because it seems like it was a lot of money, and it's not something I looked at, [00:23:32] because I'm not one of the vendors, people that's going to vend for that. [00:23:36] I don't have any idea what you're talking about. [00:23:39] The question is if somebody, if Boulevard Beef wants to cook hot dogs and hamburgers on their own property [00:23:48] at their own business, is there a charge that you have told them they're going to have to pay? [00:23:55] No, I have not told them. [00:23:57] The city, you told them they had to have a permit, whether it was under me, [00:24:03] or I guess that's what you're talking about now, is it either goes under the event, [00:24:09] or they had to get their own permit. [00:24:11] Well, they weren't allowing their own permit, so they had to go under the event. [00:24:16] And how much was that? [00:24:17] And what did you say it was, $7,500? [00:24:19] No, no, it was under the impression it was $500. [00:24:23] It seemed to me it was more than just a nominal charge. [00:24:27] No, there's different fees for in the park and outside the park. [00:24:31] What were the outside park fees? [00:24:32] The outside the park, I believe, was $250. [00:24:37] But we had a Zoom meeting, and you were in attendance at that Zoom meeting. [00:24:41] I sat in on it. [00:24:42] And I explained all the rules to everyone in regards, and they were not my rules, [00:24:49] they were the city rules, is what I was told that morning. [00:24:52] And we did give everyone their rules, and everybody has been great. [00:24:56] And, you know, now if you turn this thing around today, I have an event in three days. [00:25:01] How fair is that to me that now I have to start giving back money to people? [00:25:06] And mine's a charity event. [00:25:08] You know, it's a full charity event. [00:25:10] I don't make a dime off this event. [00:25:12] So how is that really fair to me as the event coordinator working so hard to do this? [00:25:18] Well, that's what we're trying to understand. [00:25:21] So thank you. [00:25:23] Mr. Mayor, pardon. [00:25:25] Pardon. [00:25:26] We have a motion on the floor. [00:25:27] So if you don't mind, I would like to work this out up here on this issue. [00:25:33] Absolutely. [00:25:34] You called me to the microphone. [00:25:35] I know. [00:25:36] Thank you. [00:25:37] I hear you. [00:25:38] Thank you. [00:25:39] Yeah, it's just Robert's rules. [00:25:40] I try to at least make a Boy Scout effort to follow them. [00:25:46] So the solution that has been suggested and asked by the two that didn't make the second was to delay this. [00:25:54] And the arguments made seem to explain that there's a little tension about something that we probably should think through as well. [00:26:04] I've not been familiar with charging vendors outside the park. [00:26:09] So now that we're moving more things out, it's going to become an issue. [00:26:13] Yeah, this is new. [00:26:15] So I would ask the maker if he would consider modifying his motion to. . . [00:26:24] Would it be appropriate to offer an amendment? [00:26:26] Yeah. [00:26:27] All right. [00:26:28] Well, I'd like to offer a friendly amendment that we would delay the application of this ordinance for 30 days. [00:26:35] I would accept that amendment. [00:26:38] So do you want to vote on the amendment or do we call an amended motion now? [00:26:44] Call it an amended motion? [00:26:45] You've got maker and second. [00:26:47] So it looks like everybody's in order. [00:26:50] So before we vote, I have another question, though, that was raised by the discussion, [00:26:56] which is that there's a third leg to this stool, [00:27:01] which is the food trucks and the ability for someone to come into our town and sell food. [00:27:08] I recall Hot Dog Vendor setting up right outside the Chasco Fiesta on Bank Street where we've done the same thing in charging vendors. [00:27:18] I recall watching the Ice Cream Man Park on Main Street at the entrance to Sims Park in front of parades and activities. [00:27:29] And so I think that if the purpose of this is to both support the downtown businesses, [00:27:36] which is part of why events do it and why we support them, and also to support the events and the nonprofits, [00:27:45] I want to learn a little bit more about how we have established this sort of vendors trail along Main Street, [00:27:55] many of which poke out into the road often, and we're spending a lot of money building at other locations. [00:28:02] So at some point down the road, the food truck is a bigger snag on our local economy, I think, [00:28:11] and another issue that would have to be discussed. [00:28:14] But not today. [00:28:15] It's not in the motion. [00:28:16] If you all are happy, I'm happy. [00:28:18] Well, my concern is that we've got people that are taxpaying businesses in the downtown, [00:28:24] and the food trucks don't pay a penny. [00:28:30] And to have an event in the park that demands payment for these people to continue to do business on their own property I think is wrong. [00:28:42] I think it's just not fair for the businesses. [00:28:45] And, yeah, I sat in on the Zoom meeting, and some of the stuff in the Zoom meeting was flat, inaccurate, [00:28:52] and did not match the city statutes at the time. [00:28:56] But be that as it may, I can't support the motion because I think it is unfair to the local businesses. [00:29:05] I thought we were providing them with an opportunity. [00:29:08] Yeah, if they're willing to pay a tribute of $250 for the privilege, yes. [00:29:13] Oh, you're talking about this immediate event? [00:29:15] Yes, sir. [00:29:16] Okay. [00:29:17] That's the only one I think we're involved in right now. [00:29:19] Well, the motion is to create a policy for the city. [00:29:21] Right. [00:29:22] But we don't have a policy. [00:29:23] I mean, everything's kind of been as it was. [00:29:27] We have no policy, but you can't change a policy three days before an event and make everybody change. [00:29:31] I mean, I think that it's a good policy, and I think that we should be changing it, [00:29:36] but I don't think we should be changing it this close to an event with all the work that's already been put into the event. [00:29:40] But we have never, never had local businesses that have been told in order to continue to do business during the event, [00:29:48] they have to pay a fee to the event organizer. [00:29:52] That is new, that is unique, and I don't think we need to honor that. [00:29:57] Well, that's why we're changing it. [00:30:00] We're just postponing so everybody can be on the same page. [00:30:03] Well, if they want to sell food this time, they can pay their $2.50, [00:30:07] but if they don't want to support the event and wait until the next one, they're clear to go. [00:30:11] So, to me, it's just hold your horses, and we're clearing the gates to do it again. [00:30:18] Wait through this event, and then you'll be fine. [00:30:20] It's my understanding that even if you wanted to do that, you still have to get a permit, [00:30:25] and you have to have a CAFE license anyway to do it. [00:30:28] There's only a few businesses that have that license now, [00:30:31] so you can't run down and get one last second anyway. [00:30:34] Why are we asking these businesses that are already permitted to do this [00:30:38] to pay extra for the privilege of doing what we've already told them they can do? [00:30:42] Well, we have to change the ordinance so that they're included in the downtown event district. [00:30:46] That's why we're making these changes so they can in the future. [00:30:49] But we have an event that's already been running by a certain set of rules, [00:30:53] and the committee, three days before event, that doesn't seem fair either. [00:30:57] It's been running by its own set of rules. [00:30:59] No, these are city rules, not the set of rules. [00:31:02] We have never had an event that demanded payment from the downtown businesses. [00:31:09] No, sir. [00:31:10] No, ma'am. [00:31:11] This is discussion at council. [00:31:13] Open it up to the public. [00:31:15] That's just not right, though. [00:31:16] You're not speaking the truth. [00:31:18] Because I did not make these changes. [00:31:21] Ma'am, you are out of order. [00:31:22] This is council discussion at this point. [00:31:24] Please sit down. [00:31:25] Let's call the vote. [00:31:26] If they have to have a cafe permit or they can use her permit, that's their choice. [00:31:30] If they can't get a cafe permit, they can use hers and they pay the $2.50. [00:31:34] If they can't get a cafe permit, they wouldn't be able to do it anyway. [00:31:37] Right? [00:31:38] So that's why the ordinance needs to be in place, [00:31:41] but I think that we should just delay it until we get through an event that's three days away. [00:31:45] They're probably not participating in this anyway. [00:31:50] You called the vote? [00:31:52] Yeah, called the vote. [00:31:54] Any further discussion? [00:31:56] Hearing none, all those in favor, please signify by saying aye. [00:32:00] Aye. [00:32:01] Opposed? [00:32:02] Nay. [00:32:04] Motion passes on a 4-1 vote. [00:32:07] Next is 2022 Friendly Vet Fest Event, an alcoholic beverage application.
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2022 Friendly Vet Fest Event and Alcoholic Beverage Applications
approvedCouncil approved a request from John Gillis of Friendly Kia, sponsored by Warrior Wellness Program with STANO (Supporting Our Troops Areawide, National, and Overseas) as the not-for-profit license applicant, to hold the Friendly Vet Fest fundraiser at Sims Park on November 12, 2022, including a special event alcoholic beverage application to sell beer and wine from 4 p.m. to 11 p.m. Councilman Altman raised concerns about partisan political activity at prior Friendly Kia-sponsored events and urged that future events remain nonpartisan.
- motion:Motion to approve the Friendly Vet Fest Event and the alcoholic beverage special event application. (passed)
Sims ParkFriendly KiaSTANO (Supporting Our Troops Areawide, National, and Overseas)SertomaWarrior Wellness ProgramJohn GillisMr. AltmanMr. Driscoll501(c)(3) partisan activity policyFourth of July / Kia Fest celebrationFriendly Vet Fest Event▶ Jump to 32:15 in the videoShow transcriptHide transcript
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[00:32:15] This will, by the way, also not be covered under the rules that you just passed. [00:32:23] Mr. Driscoll. [00:32:25] There is no reading for this one. [00:32:27] No, there's no reading. [00:32:28] This is a request for a fundraiser which is being sponsored by Warrior Wellness Program, [00:32:43] and it is titled Friendly Vet Fest Event, which John Gillis of Friendly Kia is the applicant for the event, [00:32:56] and they are asking for permission to sell beer and wine in Sims Park on Saturday, November 12, 2022, [00:33:08] from 4 o'clock p.m. to 11 o'clock p.m., [00:33:13] and they have a not-for-profit organization, STANO, [00:33:18] which is an acronym for Supporting Our Troops Areawide, National, and Overseas, [00:33:27] that is the applicant for the license, [00:33:33] and they will be enforcing the hours of operation in accordance with our ordinance, [00:33:41] and we are recommending in favor of the Friendly Vet Fest Event [00:33:49] and in favor of the alcohol beverage special event application. [00:33:54] Open it up for public comment. [00:33:56] Seeing no one come forward, bring it back to Council. [00:34:01] I move to approve. [00:34:02] Second. [00:34:03] To the maker. [00:34:04] I think it's a great event. [00:34:06] Do the second. [00:34:07] Looking forward to it. [00:34:08] Mr. Altman. [00:34:09] Yeah, I do have a question or two, and it goes back to the Kia Fest, to the 4th of July celebration, [00:34:17] which was a great event, and it was a fantastic entertainment, and thank you for putting it on, [00:34:26] and as always, it was well received. [00:34:29] The fireworks were fantastic. [00:34:31] So the event itself was good. [00:34:35] I did have a problem with the high level of partisanship that was displayed. [00:34:44] If a nonprofit has a nonprofit 501c3 status, [00:34:51] it's required under federal law not to be involved in political promotion. [00:34:57] So if we have a sponsor for selling the beer, is that not the sponsor for the event? [00:35:05] So this has been suggested as a sponsor for a good charitable cause, I'm assuming 501c3, whether it is or not, [00:35:13] but I would like our city's policies to reflect the federal policies that we don't have events that become partisan. [00:35:27] We're a nonpartisan city. [00:35:29] I made this comment after the last one. [00:35:32] As happy as I was, I wasn't real happy to walk past a very partisan outreach. [00:35:42] Is that a rule for 501c3s anyway? [00:35:44] It is, but, you know, in the course of things, if the nonprofit, as in Chasco, is Sertoma, [00:35:51] and they make their money selling beer, then the event has, if it's a nonprofit, which it has become, it cannot. [00:36:01] So in our parade, for example, when people want to run for office and go down to the parade [00:36:07] because it's part of a charitable, we can't allow that, [00:36:11] which incumbents take advantage of by just riding the parade as the incumbents. [00:36:19] But that's the way it is, and they're not allowed to say vote for me or do any of that. [00:36:25] Voter registration drives are great. [00:36:29] Supporting the right to vote and encouraging political activity is fine, [00:36:35] but to my view it can't be partisan, and I want to understand if that occurs, [00:36:41] that there is an outreach to everyone that's involved, and that is done in a collegial fashion. [00:36:49] So while this is on the motion, I'm guessing this is not going to be that, [00:36:54] but I'm hoping that my colleagues will agree that it's not appropriate. [00:36:59] Deputy Mayor? [00:37:01] Yes, Mayor. [00:37:02] I think this event, maybe I didn't spend enough time at the Fourth of July celebration, [00:37:08] but I didn't, I'm not sure I understood the partisan issue there.
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CAC Funding Request for Pasco Upcycle and Art Festival
approvedCouncil approved a Cultural Affairs Committee recommendation to appropriate $5,000 to Keep Pasco Beautiful to support the Pasco Upcycle and Art Festival, scheduled November 5th. The event, which had over 65 vendors last year and is expecting over 100 this year, focuses on waste reduction education and recycled-material art.
- motion:Approve the Cultural Affairs Committee recommendation to appropriate $5,000 to support the Pasco Upcycle and Art Festival. (passed)
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[00:37:12] But, yeah, it looks like it'll just be a nice, fun event, so I look forward to it. [00:37:20] Yeah, it should be good. [00:37:22] Any further discussion? [00:37:24] Hearing none, all those in favor, please signify by saying aye. [00:37:27] Aye. [00:37:28] Opposed, like sign. [00:37:30] The motion passes. [00:37:31] Next, CAC funding request for PASCO Upcycle and Art. [00:37:35] Ms. Manns? [00:37:37] For several years now, the city has been fortunate to be able to host the PASCO Upcycle and Art Festival, [00:37:45] and we have in attendance this evening Ms. Kristen King, who is the chairperson of Keep PASCO Beautiful, [00:37:56] responsible for the organization. [00:37:59] They, in large part, as part of this event, demonstrate salvageable uses for recycled materials, [00:38:13] and in many cases even bring them to works of art. [00:38:19] Last year they had over 65 vendors. [00:38:22] This year they're planning to have over 100, as I understand, to the event. [00:38:28] It's always a very successful event. [00:38:30] They've been before the Cultural Affairs Committee to request some funding assistance for the costs associated with the event, [00:38:40] and the Cultural Affairs Committee is recommending an appropriation in the amount of $5,000 to support the event, [00:38:49] and therefore the recommendation of the Cultural Affairs Committee is before you this evening for your consideration. [00:38:57] Thank you. [00:38:58] I'll open it up for public comment. [00:39:02] Give us your name and address for the record, please. [00:39:06] My name is Kristen King. [00:39:08] My address is 1545 Demoner Drive. [00:39:11] I am the Keep PASCO Beautiful coordinator. [00:39:15] Our PASCO Upcycle Festival, again, we are asking for some funding help with this. [00:39:21] This is our first time asking. [00:39:23] In the past we had actually received some state funding that we used to assist with this event, [00:39:29] and this past go-around Keep PASCO Beautiful did not receive that funding. [00:39:33] That's why we are coming to you. [00:39:35] We do not have beer or wine at this event. [00:39:39] We are having some food, but we are trying to utilize the local businesses as much as possible. [00:39:46] So Hero's is actually coming out, and they're going to be doing some sandwiches and things. [00:39:51] I've reached out to Rose's. [00:39:53] I'm hoping she brings her delicious quiches with her. [00:39:56] We try very hard to be good neighbors downtown. [00:40:01] So the point for our event is to educate people on waste reduction, [00:40:05] some other environmental things that they can do, have fun along the way. [00:40:10] And so what we do is any downtown businesses that want to participate in our event, [00:40:15] we do not charge them a vendor fee. [00:40:17] So like Coastal Creations, she's going to come out, and we're not going to charge her. [00:40:21] We try to creatively work with everybody as much as possible. [00:40:25] And our event's November 5th, and whoever wants to cook on the sidewalks for our event is more than welcome to. [00:40:32] So we actually, I don't, you know, we don't look at this as a fundraising event. [00:40:37] We look at it as an awareness event and an education event. [00:40:41] So that's the angle that we're coming from. [00:40:43] Thank you. [00:40:44] Anyone else? [00:40:46] Seeing no one else come forward, bring it back to Council. [00:40:49] Move approval. [00:40:51] Second. [00:40:52] The maker? [00:40:53] No. [00:40:54] I look forward to it. [00:40:55] To the second? [00:40:56] Same, looking forward to it. [00:40:57] Deputy Mayor? [00:40:59] Yeah, this is like, you know, I've attended these events in the past, and they're nice. [00:41:03] I was amazed when I saw the layout and the number of vendors that's planned for this event. [00:41:11] I'm sure the parking facility will be packed. [00:41:16] Maybe it was just the vendors attending, but really a ton of people. [00:41:25] And as I looked at this and saw that, I just didn't know if there needs to be some extra portalettes brought in [00:41:33] or something like that for this crowd that came to mind. [00:41:37] But, you know, I would be in support of supporting this event. [00:41:45] I would think that there would be other folks that would be willing to support this as well. [00:41:50] I don't know if even the Pasco County could get involved somehow. [00:41:54] So, in any event, that's how I feel. [00:41:57] Councilwoman? [00:41:58] I think it's a great event, the type of event that we need to have. [00:42:01] Educational events and cultural events are definitely more needed. [00:42:07] I think it's wonderful. [00:42:08] Ms. Manns, if we could look at what our attendance was in the past and if we need to do something with portalettes, [00:42:14] that's not a bad thought. [00:42:18] Yeah, and I'm pleased that the event is actively attempting to involve the downtown community [00:42:27] as opposed to shaking them down for money. [00:42:31] There's no further discussion. [00:42:33] All those in favor, please signify by saying aye. [00:42:36] Aye. [00:42:37] Opposed, like sign. [00:42:39] Motion passes. [00:42:40] Next is a recommendation on in-kind support for special events. [00:42:45] Yes, sir. [00:42:49] As you know, each year requests from not-for-profits are submitted for annual special events related to in-kind support [00:43:05] that they request from the city. [00:43:09] And each year, the requests for in-kind support typically exceed the amount of funding that is available to support the events. [00:43:22] And that was the case this year as well. [00:43:26] The appropriation that was established in this year's fiscal year budget was $58,000. [00:43:34] The three events that we fund through this appropriation are the Chasco Fiesta, the Cody River Bike Fest, and the Holiday Street Parade. [00:43:48] The Chasco Fiesta requested an appropriation in the amount of between $60,000 and $72,000. [00:43:57] The Cody River Bike Fest requested $15,000. [00:44:02] And the Holiday Street Parade requested $14,000. [00:44:07] It's always difficult to determine what the right amount is for the events. [00:44:15] And so I do ask that all of the applicants submit a pretty extensive application package. [00:44:23] And I try to reflect very carefully on the amount of community support that the events generate, [00:44:30] the amount of economic benefit to the business community, as well as the charitable benefit to our residents [00:44:38] in determining the amount of funding that I recommend to you for in-kind support. [00:44:48] The 4th of July celebration is something that we have in the past supported with in-kind dollars. [00:44:58] But you'll know. [00:45:00] that this year it's not included as an appropriation as it wasn't last year [00:45:04] because we've been very fortunate in that Mr. John Gillis of Kia has become a [00:45:14] primary sponsor for that event and has assumed the responsibility for the [00:45:20] payment of all of the hard costs of that event and so we only have a few soft [00:45:28] costs so thank you John for that and so I don't include that as part of this [00:45:36] budget so with that being said the recommendation this year for funding is
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Recommendation of In-Kind Support for Special Events
approvedCouncil considered in-kind support recommendations for three special events: Chasco Fiesta ($34,000), Cody River Bike Fest ($12,000), and the Holiday Street Parade by the Holiday Rotary Club ($12,000). After public comment and discussion about the value of community events versus the need for better financial evaluation, the motion to approve the recommended funding levels passed.
- motion:Motion to approve the recommended in-kind funding levels for Chasco Fiesta ($34,000), Cody River Bike Fest ($12,000), and Holiday Street Parade ($12,000). (passed)
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[00:45:45] for Chasco Fiesta $34,000 for Cody River Bike Fest $12,000 the Holiday [00:45:54] Street Parade to the Holiday Rotary Club is $12,000 and we have of course Mrs. [00:46:03] Tina Farrell in attendance on behalf of Cody River Bike Fest and we have Mr. [00:46:08] Michael Cox in attendance for the Holiday Rotary Club and I did have [00:46:14] conversation earlier today with Al Renato related to Chasco Fiesta and he [00:46:21] was grateful for the recommended appropriation. Thank you. Open up for [00:46:27] public comment. Seeing no one come forth. [00:46:37] Is your name and address for the record? In my address you guys already have it [00:46:44] 6141 you know the road I just wanted to know with what we just heard who is [00:46:52] going to be making the final decisions does that come to you as a whole as a [00:46:57] council do you vote on it or does one person have the you know the authority [00:47:04] to to vet all these people and give this money away because honestly from sitting [00:47:09] back there and I am happy for the nonprofits and for the families that [00:47:14] live in this community that do a lot of good stuff I mean really do a lot of [00:47:18] good stuff with the nonprofits I'm not taking anything away from the people [00:47:22] that are actually doing good but what I want to know is why do y'all spend so [00:47:26] much money like I'm hearing people come up here talk about like you know their [00:47:31] house is being flooded and needing assistance but you guys don't really say [00:47:36] much about that but when it comes to events and when it comes to real estate [00:47:40] and property and purchases you all perk up so I'm trying to figure out like [00:47:45] what are you here for the people are you guys here for profit because I remember [00:47:51] when the BLM group wanted to do a peaceful demonstration downtown we were [00:47:56] told that we would need a permit it would be thousands of dollars and if we [00:48:00] did so without a permit we would be fined and as a matter of fact on that [00:48:06] day we decided not to go ahead with these demonstration which is going to [00:48:10] be a mural individual to all those innocent lives that are being lost by [00:48:15] gun violence we were told we couldn't do it by your administration here but it's [00:48:22] funny when there's a back-to-boo rally they don't need a permit to do it you [00:48:27] guys give them full clearance there's something wrong with that there's a [00:48:32] favoritism there's a major conflict of interest that is going on within this [00:48:36] city and I think you all know and if you don't start to clean up the act we the [00:48:44] people are going to have to come here every other Tuesday and constantly tell [00:48:48] the public what you all are doing behind our backs I am sitting back in the back [00:48:53] row and watch you disrespect one after the other person with the gavel with the [00:48:59] words I mean it's just really sad to see and here we are about to spend more [00:49:06] money that's all I hear is I motion I second I motion I second just spending [00:49:10] money but what have you put forth to help the people of low-income I mean we [00:49:15] know from the text messages we read that most of I'm not going to say any names [00:49:19] but we know some of you don't care about low-income housing and people that need [00:49:23] help but yet you want to sit up here and say nonprofits nonprofits nonprofits [00:49:27] tell us how you really feel because the text messages do anyone else seeing no [00:49:36] one else come forward bring it back to Council I'll make the motion to approve [00:49:40] the recommended funding levels a second maker yeah a couple of things first of [00:49:47] all the separation of hard costs and soft costs has demonstrated to be [00:49:55] recognized underlying to me what I have been asking my colleagues to consider [00:50:03] for a long time which is we're not giving money away we are providing [00:50:08] support for services and as mentioned by the city manager there is a there's a [00:50:15] need to evaluate the economic impact that it has on the city and this and the [00:50:19] and whether it's a an event that helps the cultural benefit of the community [00:50:26] the people that come together over the 4th of July celebration and the [00:50:31] fireworks from all over have adopted us as their as their city because many of [00:50:39] them don't live in the city and so we're the host of 150 200,000 people and that's [00:50:46] how we're trying to function as a city and it's working I mean look at the [00:50:50] sidewalks and the people walking around this this past week or two and I'm [00:50:55] already kind of eyeballing folks that coming out of the Hacienda because [00:50:59] they're taking pictures of things that we probably hardly would think notable [00:51:05] but to them it's great so we're creating an environment that is supportive of [00:51:13] this good social culture and to quantify it and say we can only afford [00:51:20] so much or our budget is tight this is our police overtime budget our police [00:51:27] budget our fire budget our departmental budgets and those budgets are in the [00:51:31] tune of a few million dollars so I just want to recognize that some of what that [00:51:36] budget goes to are handling the unruly crowds at 3 o'clock in the morning when [00:51:42] the bars are closed and people don't leave town some of them are are tied up [00:51:48] many of those dollars are tied up in dealing with the homeless population [00:51:52] which it's good to hear the positive comments that that people are being [00:51:56] treated humanly and with some sense of dignity which they deserve but they [00:52:05] don't have a right perhaps to sleep on the bridge in the middle of the sidewalk [00:52:10] in the middle of town and they need to be they need to be talked to and they [00:52:13] need to be see if they need help and and so we've talked about that in our [00:52:18] budget so we have a two three million dollars worth of services that we're [00:52:23] providing to the community in many ways whether it's answering a false alarm or [00:52:29] or fire running to try to help an accident or police calls and and this is [00:52:37] just one element if you think of it as a lot of money it's not a lot of money [00:52:42] when you look at the amount of public service dollars that our city spends so [00:52:48] I know Mr. Mayor that this goes back to the time when this was an issue in the [00:52:53] city had to tighten its belt and look for money wherever it could I still [00:52:58] think that we we should be evaluating the events that are good and providing [00:53:04] the appropriate level of support and if we think we need more support then we [00:53:09] can give more support I'm going to recommend after this particular time [00:53:16] frame that we consider having an event fund and operating with our nonprofits [00:53:23] that are holding these events to say we'll we'll take a person will look at [00:53:29] the financials the Chasco Fiesta did well last year if it does well again [00:53:33] next year and the city would agree in the future we could start being a [00:53:38] partner putting some money into event funds and helping some of the free [00:53:42] entertainment and continuing that role so I see this because I'm involved in it [00:53:47] and some of you up here are found your involvements in these nonprofits [00:53:52] volunteers working tirelessly nobody putting money in their pockets from [00:53:57] these things this is all being done for the community and and for us to find [00:54:03] ourselves in this discussion I think there was a time and a place as the [00:54:06] point says for everything I voted I moved approval I appreciate your [00:54:11] recommendation I continue to hope that we will consider our events in a way [00:54:18] that doesn't that doesn't have to be judgmental and can be supportive and [00:54:27] maybe can be successful for the city to generate some revenue I think it came to [00:54:34] ticket sales a percentage going back towards those expenses the problem comes [00:54:39] when an event gets rained out and all the nonprofits and all the sponsors put [00:54:44] all their money up and then it loses money and so I think some flexibility as [00:54:49] we discussed moving forward would be appropriate and I would look forward to [00:54:53] some recommendations on that maybe next year or in the future but I'm in [00:54:58] support of the motion to the second yeah so I think all three of these events are [00:55:03] events that are family-friendly they're events that bring a lot of people into [00:55:08] our into our area and they all all three events support a local nonprofits and I [00:55:14] think that that's really important to have events that our families can enjoy [00:55:17] it's us all three events are things that we've become pretty known for here [00:55:22] and we have people that come a lot of people that come from outside of New Port Richey to attend all of these events and I think it's really important for us [00:55:30] to support those types of events so the couple things I was reviewing the [00:55:40] applications for all three and or they did did we ever get financials for the [00:55:46] bike fest I didn't see anything they were submitted today they were okay [00:55:50] because I I'm sorry I haven't seen this I was just curious we were we could [00:55:53] approve that without a complete application so you know if Councilman [00:56:01] Altman makes a good point in trying to evaluate these you know the short time [00:56:07] I've been serving on the Pasco Tourism Board you know Florida Sports Coast it's [00:56:11] interesting how they allocate their monies for various events they bring in [00:56:16] and a lot of it's based upon room nights you know they because they think [00:56:20] they're gonna get some money back through the hotel tax and so forth and [00:56:23] then and that impact is going to have locally on the on the on the area [00:56:29] hotels restaurants and so forth and you know they have consultants that you [00:56:37] don't know what it costs and exactly to do all that analysis for them but that's [00:56:42] the information is given us to decide whether or not to sponsor event and how [00:56:45] much we would sponsor that event and we kind of doing the same thing in an [00:56:51] off-the-cuff way here and I don't know I'd hate to spend a lot of money just to [00:56:57] calculate this but we you know I think it would comes to us if the events could [00:57:04] give us an idea of what they you know they and they've done this as far as how [00:57:07] many people just participate and so forth and how long and we can kind of [00:57:11] make the best judgment what that might be in order to go ahead and and fund it [00:57:17] but it's it's really up to you know our residents today they want us to because [00:57:23] there is expense there's expenses here that are not recognized I mean the wear [00:57:28] and tear on the park right and you know some of these events have quite a bit on [00:57:32] that but that's not necessarily in here mainly this is police and fire overtime [00:57:37] most of this stuff that's in that we that we're spending on and that's true [00:57:42] dollars we have to pay and it changes their retirement and all it says real [00:57:46] dollars but so in it you know we want to you know the city wants us to spend you [00:57:54] know $300,000 a year on events you know start talking to us about it and they [00:57:59] won't work into the budget but you know this is a budget we're working with and [00:58:02] I think it's been allocated appropriately. Mr. Murphy. Yeah I support [00:58:07] also I mean in the money that we we spend towards these these events it's [00:58:13] it's really so much more than just putting money to help out with event I [00:58:16] mean it really builds a sense of community I mean people look forward to [00:58:20] these events I mean I could say myself you know the parades Chasco a boat [00:58:26] parade all of them I mean that's something I've been doing since I was a [00:58:28] little kid so I mean this is this is over you know years and years and years [00:58:34] and it's just something that people look forward to and really brings community [00:58:37] together so it buys a lot more than just helping out an event it builds our [00:58:41] community. Thank you with all due respect to my colleague councilman mother's head [00:58:49] Cody River Bike Fest is not particularly family-friendly I don't believe it was [00:58:53] ever intended to it's marketed more towards a not an x-rated adult crowd but [00:59:01] just an adult over 21 crowd may be the best way of putting it it's it's for an [00:59:08] old older older group as opposed to families family certainly Chasco Fiesta [00:59:15] and the Holiday Street Parade are ones that you're going to bring your four [00:59:17] year old to I don't know that you'd bring them to Bike Fest but you know I [00:59:26] it as I look at it I think mr. all makes a good point that there are some times [00:59:32] when some of these events get weathered out via rain or something else there was [00:59:44] there was a period where it was the the running joke with Main Street that they [00:59:49] held events and lost money on each one so they wanted to do more events and [00:59:54] they were losing more as they were going because of the the economics of the [00:59:59] thing [01:00:00] And particularly, if you get bad weather, it just kills things. [01:00:06] It was the country concert this year at Chasco got just completely washed out, and I'm positive [01:00:15] that put a big hurt on Chasco Fiesta's bottom line. [01:00:20] I don't know how we maneuver that. [01:00:24] Maybe we've got some time between now and next spring or summer to start talking about [01:00:30] that. [01:00:31] I don't know if you call it a rainy day fund or whatever, but taking a look at that. [01:00:43] Of the events, if I had my druthers, I'd give more money to Chasco and probably less to [01:00:49] the Bike Fest, but three days out, I'm not going to suggest that we zero fund them. [01:00:54] I think that would be unfair. [01:00:59] But I really believe Chasco Fiesta and the Holiday Street Parade are the two big events [01:01:04] that we ought to be concentrating on. [01:01:08] Any further discussion? [01:01:11] Hearing none, all those in favor, please signify by saying aye. [01:01:14] Aye. [01:01:15] Aye. [01:01:16] Opposed, like sign. [01:01:17] Motion passes. [01:01:19] Next, 2021 Grand Boulevard multi-use path project. [01:01:24] The purpose of this agenda item is to discuss the architectural and engineering services [01:01:31] for the first phase of the Grand Boulevard path, which will span from Marine Parkway [01:01:38] to Gulf Drive. [01:01:40] Mr. Doe has a PowerPoint presentation for you, which will feature the 10-foot [01:01:48] wide path and will outline for you the... [01:01:55] I'll let him show the PowerPoint and then we'll talk a little bit more about what's [01:01:59] included in the task order. [01:02:01] Go ahead, Mr. Doe. [01:02:02] Thank you, Ms. Manns, Mayor and Council. [01:02:05] So the request of staff for Council is to review and consider for approval the task [01:02:10] order mentioned in the amount not to exceed $159,370 submitted by HAF and Associates Incorporated [01:02:20] for the 2021 Grand Boulevard multi-use path project architectural and engineering services. [01:02:28] So that being said, I do have a brief presentation here. [01:02:31] Keep in mind, this is conceptual. [01:02:33] However, we did base this off of some survey work that we did perform. [01:02:39] So this is roughly what we're looking to see come to reality here. [01:02:47] So this is beginning at Marine Parkway and Grand Boulevard, and the key here is that [01:02:55] we have opted to utilize the east side of Grand Boulevard for a few reasons. [01:03:04] Existing utility conflicts were taken into account, and here, as I'm sure you all know, [01:03:09] Grand Boulevard Street is a tricky intersection. [01:03:12] So moving that path, continuing that path, I should say, on the east side we thought [01:03:17] would be the best option. [01:03:20] You can see continuing north on Grand Boulevard to the right would be the north. [01:03:25] We've got some landscaping. [01:03:26] We've got that buffer there between the multi-use path and Grand Boulevard crosswalks. [01:03:34] There will be some new lights installed matching what we have downtown. [01:03:37] Those are called out, landscaping, trees, continuing north. [01:03:43] Pretty much more of the same, keeping it on that east side 10-foot path. [01:03:51] Continuing on to where we meet at Gulf Drive here. [01:03:55] So this would be where this phase of the project would come to an end. [01:04:00] Again, as Ms. Mann said, this is going to be a few phases, but this is the initial first [01:04:05] part of the project. [01:04:09] So here's a rendering of what that buffer would look like, how we envision it, and you [01:04:14] could see the multi-use path there, some folks on their bicycles or out walking their family. [01:04:22] The tree line, the buffer, does provide that good separation. [01:04:26] And here's a look at some of the plants, trees, and shrubbery that we're looking to have along [01:04:34] that. [01:04:35] Again, this is very conceptual, but this was based off of surveys that we did perform. [01:04:42] So with that, I will say that the task order includes construction plan prep, permitting, [01:04:50] utility coordination, signs, pavement markings, bidding assistance, and construction contract [01:04:58] administration assistance for the path. [01:05:01] Staff and associates, you're all familiar with, we've worked with them on the street [01:05:05] improvement project that we've done over the years. [01:05:07] So they're very familiar with us. [01:05:10] The proposed project is included in the Parks and Rec 2020 Trails Feasibility Study. [01:05:17] As shown, the project will connect the existing multi-use path on Marine Parkway to the downtown [01:05:23] eventually, as well as over to Madison Street, connecting it to that existing multi-use path. [01:05:28] So this is the first phase of achieving that. [01:05:33] Another key is that this includes the reduction of four lanes on Grand Boulevard eventually [01:05:36] to two lanes. [01:05:38] And what I just showed you, of course, will include landscaping, the new street lighting, [01:05:42] as I mentioned, and stormwater drainage improvements. [01:05:46] Half and associates will take into account what we have there existing and what they [01:05:51] can do at the same time putting in this multi-use path, but to also improve our stormwater and [01:05:56] our drainage in that area. [01:05:59] Funds for this project are identified in the city's current CIP and approval of the task [01:06:04] order is recommended. [01:06:06] I'll be happy to answer any questions you might have. [01:06:08] One question. [01:06:09] Does this cover, you talk about going from four lanes to two, is this covering that section [01:06:14] of Grand or just the part from Gulf South? [01:06:17] This is just up to Gulf Drive. [01:06:19] This is the first phase of getting to that end game. [01:06:22] So this does not include the... [01:06:24] This is going up to Gulf Drive and the bridge, but this is the first phase of this project [01:06:29] to where we will eventually get towards that point. [01:06:32] Other questions? [01:06:35] Seeing none, I'll open it up for public comment. [01:06:39] Seeing no one come forward, bring it back to council. [01:06:42] We've got one. [01:06:45] We've got a resident along the path. [01:06:49] There's a couple of things. [01:06:52] And if you've been around as long as I have, since 1969, I'm not sure if some people remember, [01:07:00] but that piece of property directly across from Leaning Tower was donated to the city [01:07:05] in perpetuity as a park. [01:07:09] And the reason why it has never been paved over by the hospital was because that was [01:07:14] preserved to do that. [01:07:16] If you're going to do this, it might be wise to go back into the old records. [01:07:20] That used to be a blackberry farm. [01:07:22] Do you remember? [01:07:23] I mean, Matt, you've been around a while, maybe not as long as I have. [01:07:27] You remember that. [01:07:28] Blackberry wine in the garage there. [01:07:30] Yes, they did. [01:07:31] But that was donated. [01:07:32] Now, you need to go back into the records, and only us old timers who've been here for [01:07:36] over 50 years would remember that. [01:07:39] That's where we bought our blackberries, and that couple donated that to be preserved as [01:07:44] a park in perpetuity. [01:07:47] So when you go making your plans, you need to look up that information. [01:07:52] That's where we all got our blackberries. [01:07:54] The other thing that is there is the old Clemmie Butler House, which I don't know why somebody [01:08:00] took the sign down, but that is also preserved as a historical house. [01:08:04] And believe it or not, I remember Clemmie. [01:08:08] And anybody who's around, she was known as the Clemmie Butler Laundry House because she [01:08:13] did laundry for all of us. [01:08:15] And there was an old ice house that was real close to there that they took down. [01:08:20] Somebody moved it onto their property. [01:08:23] But when you're making those plans, who is ever doing that, the architecture needs to [01:08:27] realize that that piece of property has been preserved in perpetuity. [01:08:31] It'd be the perfect place to make a small park if you're going to do a walkway through [01:08:35] there, but it does have to be preserved. [01:08:38] Thank you. [01:08:39] Anyone else? [01:08:40] Okay, Marlo Jones, 6141 Pine Hill Road. [01:08:58] I just wanted to ask, when these plans, they're not set in stone, correct? [01:09:05] Correct. [01:09:06] Correct. [01:09:07] I guess I'll talk to you. [01:09:08] It's so many new faces in here, I'm sorry, it's hard to get to know people. [01:09:14] Excuse me, Mr. Jones, if you've got questions, can you meet him after the meeting, please? [01:09:18] Yeah, well, it was pertaining to what he just spoke about. [01:09:22] This is not a time for questions. [01:09:24] Anyways, I was just wondering, sir, when you guys are developing these plans, I just want [01:09:31] to say, please don't forget about the low-income communities that have been terribly neglected [01:09:37] for many, many years in this community, and you all know that. [01:09:43] I mean, you've lived here forever, you've lived here forever. [01:09:47] Some of you are just here because I don't even know why, but at the end of the day, [01:09:52] we must make sure we focus on the residents. [01:09:55] We can't just keep thinking about developer money, developer money, because that's something [01:09:59] I'm seeing a lot in the information that I have been privileged to read. [01:10:05] There's a lot of developers in a lot of your inboxes, and it's very startling with the [01:10:11] conflicts of interest, and I just want to make sure, I want to see my city flourish. [01:10:15] As you know, I tell you time and time again, my family's been here for a century when black [01:10:21] people couldn't even walk outside when the street lights went out, if that puts it in [01:10:26] a context for you, how long we've been here, because I know a lot of you say, well, you [01:10:30] guys come up here and you talk, you don't even live in the city, and then you turn around [01:10:34] and write to the city attorney and say, oh, you don't even live in the city. [01:10:37] I believe the deputy mayor said that if I at last recall at one of the last meetings, [01:10:42] but make sure when these plans are being solidified, and let's make sure the public is notified. [01:10:48] We don't want to make sure this is some special meeting we all sneak on a day after a hurricane [01:10:53] where nobody's really in town, because I'm seeing a lot of special meetings happening [01:10:58] where lots of money is being thrown away, and the people don't know about it, and it's [01:11:03] pretty sad. There should be more transparency in this building. It should be not one or [01:11:09] two people that hold all the power onto where the dollars flow. For too long, people have [01:11:17] been neglected while you all have been enjoying the high sienda and all your other lavish
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2021 Grand Blvd. Multi-Use Path (MUP) Project – Architectural and Engineering Services
approvedCouncil approved architectural and engineering services for the 2021 Grand Blvd. Multi-Use Path (MUP) Project. Members expressed enthusiasm for the bike/pedestrian path connecting southern parts of the city to downtown, and suggested incorporating historical markers (e.g., the Kowalik property, Gene Sarazen's invention of the sand wedge) along the trail. Discussion also touched on potential interim restriping to slow traffic before the full two-laning project.
- motion:Motion to approve architectural and engineering services for the 2021 Grand Blvd. Multi-Use Path Project. (passed)
Craft Street bridgeGraham BoulevardGrand Blvd.Highway 19Main StreetMarine ParkwayAltmanGene SarazenJudith AllenKowalikMr. BallMr. DoMurphy2021 Grand Blvd. Multi-Use Path (MUP) ProjectAccessory Dwelling Units (ADUs) / granny flats zoning changesCultural Affairs CommitteeFlorida League of Cities conferenceMPO board Zoom meeting practicesResiliency planning post-hurricane▶ Jump to 1:11:19 in the videoShow transcriptHide transcript
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[01:11:24] activities that you spend your time doing. So let's think about the people when we're [01:11:30] making these plans in this process. Thank you, sir. Thank you. [01:11:35] Thank you. Anyone else? Seeing no one else coming forward, bring it back to council. [01:11:42] Move approval. [01:11:43] Second. [01:11:44] Do we make it? [01:11:45] Yeah, a couple of things. One, the property in question was Mr. Kowalik, and Mr. Kowalik [01:11:51] did donate the property to the city, and it is the site of our fire station, I believe, [01:11:56] coming up. [01:11:57] Because it's dedicated for use as a public purpose, not a park. [01:12:01] So I would suggest, however, though, that when we have a bike path that's running through, [01:12:06] not only does the Kowalik property have some historical significance, but near where the [01:12:14] little pizza place is now was the site where Gene Saracen invented the sand wedge, which [01:12:21] changed the whole course of golf. And in his book about our city's history, he reflects [01:12:30] on inventing it in a little shop right there near there. [01:12:33] So what is kind of interesting is there might be an opportunity for some little cultural [01:12:38] signs, whether we could put Mr. Kowalik's family name on the building, or we could recognize, [01:12:46] as they do in the park system, with some things that create interest. [01:12:50] As we see these folks walking around the city looking to find out what's interesting [01:12:53] in our city, there are some interesting features, and they're worthy of being remembered and [01:12:59] brought forward. [01:13:03] That being said, I think it's to the comment about helping people, this is a bicycle path. [01:13:12] If you look at the people riding bicycles in our city, you'll see those are the folks [01:13:17] who many don't have a car, and many folks who want to enjoy living in our city. [01:13:22] So we've heard this refrain from some of the discussions we've had, don't forget the blue [01:13:29] collar, Pasco, you know, who we are. And I think supporting this sort of outdoor cultural [01:13:37] activities and physical activities and interaction with each other is a great positive community [01:13:43] building step. So I'm excited to hear it and to see it, and just to remind the picture [01:13:52] you had was a picture farther downtown about our ultimate location. And we did hear at [01:14:00] earlier workshop about our path when we had our last discussion, complaints about people [01:14:08] not being able to see past cars and wishing that they would do something. But I'm very [01:14:14] happy to see you're trying to connect the Marine Parkway coming back. And hopefully [01:14:20] the only other question I have, when you stop at Craft Street, the bridge, the design, this [01:14:28] is all going to be factored into that design I'm expecting. [01:14:31] Correct. [01:14:32] So that's what makes it timely and important. And thank you. [01:14:37] Deputy Mayor, you were in second. [01:14:40] Yes, you know, I'm excited for this project. I think it's, I think we are on the cusp of [01:14:48] a, you know, a really insurgence of bikes. I don't know if anybody's had an opportunity [01:14:55] to spend some time in Europe, places like Amsterdam or anything where there's more bikes [01:14:59] than there are bikes. [01:15:00] people. But I think with the advent of the electric bikes and and so forth [01:15:06] that there's going to be more and more people utilizing that, particularly on [01:15:11] those days when it's not 100 degrees and 100% humidity. But so I'm excited about [01:15:16] that. I think this path will help lead some of those residents in our southern [01:15:22] part of our city into our downtown. So I look forward to that and the completion. [01:15:26] So I'm glad to see we're getting going on it. Mr. Murphy. Yeah I agree with both [01:15:32] of my colleagues on their comments. This is this is a project when when it's [01:15:36] completed it's going to be just a huge addition to our downtown and and our [01:15:41] city. It's really going to open up a lot of doors for different things. So I'm [01:15:45] really looking forward to seeing those designs and my my other questions about [01:15:48] the the options. So I think that's been asked and answered already. So we'll get [01:15:52] to see some different designs and kind of be able to talk about a little bit. [01:15:55] Okay very good. Councilwoman. Absolutely I agree. I mean I think it's really [01:15:59] important our families. That was one of the big things that I saw when I was [01:16:02] campaigning was that I saw a lot of families that couldn't walk together on [01:16:06] a sidewalk. And so the wider sidewalks, the paths, the paths that are more safe [01:16:11] with the barrier between the road. I think that does a lot for our families [01:16:15] in order for them to get out and do things outside together. I just had to [01:16:21] deal with that today actually where people were trying to walk down an [01:16:25] undersized sidewalk and were spilling out into the street with traffic coming [01:16:29] from both directions. So this this definitely will help. The part that I [01:16:34] think is going to be the the most significant was the reason I asked Mr. [01:16:39] Do about that second section is the the stretch going north from the bridge to [01:16:48] the downtown bringing that from a four-lane freeway into two lanes with [01:16:54] bike paths and hopefully better drainage and everything else along that is going [01:16:59] to be I think very welcome by the people that live down that way because it will [01:17:05] it will definitely improve their their living conditions and property values [01:17:12] and everything that goes along with that. But this is certainly a good good start [01:17:17] and you know one of the things just tossing out and going leading on from [01:17:26] Mr. Altman's comments where we've got some of these historical structures or [01:17:33] things that were there maybe we ought to be looking at some historical markers [01:17:37] and you know right up next to the the trail so people can can ride along and [01:17:43] say okay well here was where the the berry farm was and this is where you [01:17:48] know Gene Saracen did is his thing with the sand wedge and all the other things [01:17:54] that we've got a lot of history about I think would be be really good to [01:18:00] incorporate into into that as we're getting it built not just this segment [01:18:05] that we're we're talking about tonight but the whole section all the way up [01:18:08] into into Main Street. Any further discussion? Yes sir just as you [01:18:14] mentioned the two-laning of the remainder both with the upcoming bridge [01:18:21] which may still be two years out three years however long it is and this [01:18:26] construction work that's being done there was some discussion with the [01:18:31] consultant who was here which the same consultants were talking to that were [01:18:37] here talking to us about when we brought the comment of doing something [01:18:41] almost more immediate in terms of restriping or narrowing as you did on [01:18:46] Main Street I remember having some concerns when you first suggested one [01:18:52] laning it in from Highway 19 but it does seem to be working and the sooner we [01:18:59] start training people to slow down with the complaints we've had about speed and [01:19:03] to recognize that this is going to be a two-lane road before it becomes one I [01:19:09] would I would like to hear some feedback about whether or not there are some [01:19:13] temporary fixes that would start to restripe that I don't know what that is [01:19:19] an agreement with you all but I know we had that discussion I wanted to bring it [01:19:23] up. I would certainly agree with that. Any further discussion? Hearing none all [01:19:30] those in favor please signify by saying aye. Aye. Opposed like sign. Motion passes. [01:19:37] We're now to communications. I want to thank my colleagues that were able to [01:19:44] make our workshop last night to talk about the stuff that we had thoughts and [01:19:50] things we had picked up as part of the Florida League of Cities conference and [01:19:56] and also the fact that it the discussion straight into a I think a [01:20:03] more broad-ranging discussion including the the issues of resiliency which after [01:20:11] the hurricane and quite frankly I am I feel for the folks in southwest Florida [01:20:18] but that could have been us so you know to start talking seriously about the [01:20:24] resiliency steps we can take to to harden our city to make it better able [01:20:30] to survive those sorts of events in the future I think is is something we need [01:20:36] to to do. Another part of the discussion for those that weren't here asked staff [01:20:45] staff is working on some changes that will be presented to us hopefully in [01:20:50] the not-too-distant future on zoning specifically to allow ADUs or so-called [01:20:57] granny flats to be more widely constructed in the city of New Port Richey that will provide significant opportunities both for low-income [01:21:11] housing and it will also provide a revenue source for the property owners [01:21:17] and I think it it's time we go back to where we were in the 20s 30s and 40s [01:21:24] when granny flats were were actually fairly common the the changes that were [01:21:32] made as everything became more car centric in hindsight probably haven't [01:21:39] served us as well as they might so I'm looking forward to us having that [01:21:43] discussion so that we can can address some of those issues with people that [01:21:48] just flat can't afford a full freestanding house today one of the ADUs [01:21:55] may well be what it takes to get them indoors and properly sheltered and and [01:22:04] last but not least we did talk about as part of the resiliency discussion [01:22:09] drainage issues and mr. do I know you got the information from mr. ball but if [01:22:17] we could definitely take a look yeah she and Judith Allen are both reasonably [01:22:23] close to each other there on Graham Boulevard but let's take a look at it I [01:22:27] don't know that we can fix the the seven-inch deluges that come down in the [01:22:33] course of a couple hours but we certainly need to to see what what it is [01:22:38] we can do to to help ameliorate it I I hate to say it but I'm afraid we're [01:22:43] going to see more of those not less going forward so let's take a look at it [01:22:49] mr. Murphy I think the only thing I'll add is is we had some talk about the [01:22:57] zoom meetings I'm not sure what the I guess what the rules are for committees [01:23:01] but I mean I know it's very common now the zoom meeting and and I mean even on [01:23:05] the MPO board you know make a lot of big decisions there and we were able to [01:23:09] do zoom we just have requirements saying so many people have to actually be [01:23:14] physically there and then the rest can be by zoom meeting so I'm not sure what [01:23:19] the what the issue is but I would think that it would be okay but I'll let you [01:23:23] range one this month for the Cultural Affairs Committee so I'm not certain [01:23:27] what happened I'll find out okay just to facilitate a quorum right so that they [01:23:33] could get the attendance of the volunteers that were interested in [01:23:39] joining the group but I'll round up and find out what happened there I thank
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- 1Call to Order – Roll Call
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Moment of Silence
Moment of Silence.
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