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   Pledge of Allegiance

   Pledge of Allegiance and moment of silence in honor of servicemen and women.

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   [00:00:20] Very good. [00:00:21] I would like to ask all of you to please stand and join me in the Pledge of Allegiance and [00:00:22] remain standing for a moment of silence in honor of our servicemen and women at home [00:00:24] and abroad. [00:00:25] I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for [00:00:32] which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

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   Moment of Silence

   A moment of silence was observed.

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   [00:00:44] Thank you. [00:00:45] You may be seated.

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   Approval of January 4, 2022 Work Session, Special Meeting and Regular Meeting Minutes

   approved

   Council approved the minutes from the January 4, 2022 Work Session, Special Meeting, and Regular Meeting.

   • motion:Approve the January 4, 2022 Work Session, Special Meeting, and Regular Meeting minutes. (passed)

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   [00:00:47] Next item on the agenda is the approval of the January 4th Work Session Special Meeting [00:00:51] and Regular Meeting minutes. [00:00:52] Move for approval. [00:00:54] Second. [00:00:55] Any discussion? [00:00:56] Hearing none, all those in favor, please signify by saying aye. [00:00:59] Aye. [00:01:00] Aye. [00:01:01] Opposed? [00:01:02] Like sign.

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   Proclamation - School Choice Week (By Title Only)

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   Council read by title only a proclamation designating the week of January 23–29 as School Choice Week.

   #School Choice Week

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   [00:01:03] Motion passes. [00:01:04] We have a couple of proclamations. [00:01:05] This is by title only, designating the week of January 23rd to the 29th as School Choice [00:01:12] Week. [00:01:13] And I will pass that back to the City Clerk.

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   Proclamation - Arbor Day

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   Mayor Marlow read a proclamation declaring Friday, January 21st as Arbor Day in the City of New Port Richey, marking the city's 33rd year of Arbor Day celebrations. The event will include a tree planting at Francis Avenue Park at 2pm and a tree giveaway in cooperation with Keep Pasco Beautiful in downtown New Port Richey at 3pm.

   • direction:Mayor proclaimed Friday, January 21st as Arbor Day in the City of New Port Richey. (passed)

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   [00:01:16] And I would like to ask Mr. DeChant and any of his Environmental Committee people that [00:01:23] would like to join us at the podium. [00:01:25] Okay. [00:01:26] Great. [00:01:27] This is for Arbor Day, the 33rd and Arbor Day Proclamation. [00:01:43] You stay up here. [00:01:46] And I'm glad you're letting me do this presentation in spite of killing one of my two loquats. [00:01:53] We get to the loquat festival, we'll do that. [00:01:57] Whereas in 1872, J. Sterling Morton proposed to the Nebraska Board of Agriculture that [00:02:01] a special day be set aside for the planting of trees, and whereas the holiday called Arbor [00:02:06] Day was first observed with the planting of more than a million trees in Nebraska, and [00:02:12] whereas Arbor Day is now observed throughout the nation and the world, and whereas trees [00:02:16] can reduce the erosion of our precious topsoil by wind and water, lower our heating and cooling [00:02:21] costs, moderate the temperature, clean the air, produce oxygen, and provide a habitat [00:02:27] for wildlife, and whereas trees are a renewable resource giving us paper, wood for our homes, [00:02:33] fuel for our fires, and countless other wood products, and whereas trees, wherever they [00:02:39] are planted, are a source of joy and spiritual renewable, whereas the City of New Port Richey [00:02:44] is an active participant in Tree City USA, and whereas over the years the City of New Port Richey [00:02:49] has partnered with other individuals and agencies for tree giveaways and plantings, [00:02:55] such as the annual Arbor Day tree planting with the Genesis School, and whereas this [00:03:00] year's event will include the annual tree planting at 2 o'clock in the afternoon at [00:03:05] Francis Avenue Park, and in cooperation with Keep Pasco Beautiful, a tree giveaway at 3 [00:03:11] o'clock in downtown New Port Richey, now therefore I, Rob Marlow, Mayor of the City of New Port Richey, [00:03:16] do hereby proclaim Friday, January 21st, as Arbor Day in the City of New Port Richey, [00:03:22] and urge all citizens to celebrate Arbor Day to support efforts to protect our trees and [00:03:27] woodlands and to plant and care for trees to gladden the heart and promote the well-being [00:03:31] of this and future generations. [00:03:34] Wonderful, great. [00:03:37] Thank you very much, Mayor Marlow, and I did understand that you might not be there and [00:03:50] that Deputy Mayor Chopper Davis will be there on Friday, and I know Chopper's been at so [00:03:54] many of these over the years, and it'll be good to see you again at that. [00:03:58] The time is a little bit different than we've done in the past, it will be at 2 o'clock, [00:04:02] and I do want to note that this is, I don't know if it was in the proclamation or not, [00:04:08] but this is our 33rd year of Arbor Days in the City of New Port Richey, and makes us [00:04:12] one of, I know Robert's doing the math right now, makes us one of the oldest cities in [00:04:19] the state of Florida to hold an Arbor Day, and this year we're teaming up with Keep Pasco [00:04:25] Beautiful and they're going to have a tree giveaway in downtown New Port Richey at Ordinance [00:04:31] One on Main Street, and they'll be giving away elderberry trees and firebush plants [00:04:38] as part of our Arbor Day celebration, so we're expanding out a little bit beyond what we've [00:04:42] done in the past, and I did want to acknowledge that Kristen King is here, who is the chair [00:04:47] of Keep Pasco Beautiful, and she is very happy to work with the city to try to expand our [00:04:53] reforestation efforts in the city, and especially the celebration of Arbor Day. [00:04:57] So thank you again, Mayor Marleau, City Council, thank you all for your great help, City Manager [00:05:02] as always. [00:05:03] Thank you all. [00:05:04] Thank you.

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   Presentation by the Environmental Committee RE: Prohibition of Polystyrene Containers at City Events

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   The Environmental Committee, represented by Rev. Deschamps with presenter Noah Denny and support from Kristen King of Keep Pasco Beautiful, presented a proposal to prohibit polystyrene/styrofoam containers at city-approved events. The proposal was framed as ecological rather than economic and modeled on a Tallahassee ordinance. Council asked questions about county practices, recycling, and cost impacts on events like Chasco Fiesta; no formal action was taken, with council indicating they would consider it further.

   • direction:Council received the presentation and indicated it would consider the proposal and welcome further comments; staff may research the Tallahassee ordinance as a model. (none)

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   [00:05:05] Don't go too far away, Del, the next item is a presentation by the Environmental Committee [00:05:15] regarding the prohibition of polystyrene containers at city events. [00:05:19] Ms. Mance, did you have anything? [00:05:21] No, the presentation is by the Environmental Committee, Mr. Mayor. [00:05:28] You're off. [00:05:29] Yeah, no rest for the weary, right? [00:05:31] And I'm not weary at all, I'm happy. [00:05:34] So good evening, Honorable Council Members, again, City Manager and staff. [00:05:40] Thank you all for participating in the good work of the city and listening to our presentation. [00:05:48] The proposal that you have, and I believe it is in the packet, the agenda packet, the [00:05:52] proposal you have is from the City Environmental Committee, and I do want to recognize at least [00:05:58] one member of the committee who's with us, and that's Linda Blake, who's in the back [00:06:02] right there, the Secretary of the Committee. [00:06:04] I don't think there's any other committee members, although there is a former member, [00:06:10] and that's Johanna, who is there. [00:06:14] This proposal would pertain only to city approved functions and events, and the way [00:06:24] the proposal, if approved, would work would be very much like the way other requirements [00:06:31] for public events work, events that we would be holding typically in the parks of the city. [00:06:40] The substance of the proposal was developed by Noah Denny, who is with me tonight, and [00:06:47] it was reviewed and endorsed by the Environmental Committee of the city and advanced to you [00:06:52] in that spirit. [00:06:55] Subsequent to our submission of the proposal, and the summary of it's up on the board, subsequent [00:07:01] to our submission, there was a response from the Chasco Fiesta that was submitted essentially [00:07:13] as what appeared to be a comment on our proposal and recommendation. [00:07:20] The committee responded to the comments from the Chasco Fiesta representative, and we have [00:07:26] that response for you, and I believe Judy got that to the council in advance of the [00:07:32] meeting tonight. [00:07:34] You have a copy of that proposal, and the proposal itself as well as our response is [00:07:40] available for your review. [00:07:42] I'm going to turn the floor over very briefly to Mr. Denny tonight to present the proposal, [00:07:49] and following that, I'll offer a few thoughts on the comments that came from the representative [00:07:57] of the Chasco Fiesta. [00:07:58] Without further ado, I'm going to turn it over to Mr. Denny, and then I'll say a few [00:08:02] words after he's done. [00:08:04] Good evening. [00:08:07] When I went to the Cody River Bike Fest, I had a great time viewing all the motorcycles [00:08:11] and vendors at the event, but one thing that I did not have a great time viewing was the [00:08:15] piles of styrofoam, red Solo cups, and other polystyrene waste in the disposal bins placed [00:08:21] throughout the streets to compensate for the large amount of waste. [00:08:26] Knowing that none of this waste was recyclable in Pasco and was essentially a one-time-use [00:08:30] product, I decided to approach the environmental committee regarding this waste. [00:08:35] I remember that the city council had previously expressed interest in creating an ordinance [00:08:39] to prohibit the use of polystyrene at city events. [00:08:43] Even though that was back in 2019, it is never too late to take action and implement [00:08:47] beneficial ordinances to reduce pollution and waste. [00:08:53] Polystyrene is a wide group of products from red Solo cups, as mentioned, used for alcohol, [00:08:58] styrofoam containers used for carry-out food, and products with the No. 6 recycling code. [00:09:05] The simple fact is that there are many alternatives to polystyrene products that are recyclable, [00:09:10] reusable, or more easily disposable and quickly degrade. [00:09:14] This proposal does not mandate that vendors or businesses participating in city events [00:09:19] must use a certain product in lieu of polystyrene or styrofoam, but that they must use other [00:09:24] products during city-approved or sanctioned events. [00:09:27] Overall, this proposal would significantly reduce unrecyclable waste and pollution generated [00:09:33] from our city-approved events and have a beneficial impact on the environment and our culture. [00:09:38] Thank you. [00:09:39] Thank you, Mr. Denny. [00:09:40] You can hang out here and we may have some questions. [00:09:50] I asked Noah to be available, too, if there were some questions after that, after the [00:09:55] presentations are over, and we're happy to answer those questions as well. [00:09:59] I brought along a substitute container, just to show the council, that's a non-styrofoam [00:10:11] container, and those are available. [00:10:15] They're on the market for you to look at. [00:10:17] I'm sure you have seen them all before. [00:10:20] I do want to note that members of the committee have carefully vetted Mr. Denny's proposal, [00:10:27] and we are aware that a proposal like this came to the council a while ago, gosh, almost [00:10:31] two years ago, I think now, almost two years ago, or early on, in the efforts of the committee [00:10:40] to make a difference in terms of styrofoam waste in the area. [00:10:45] Over the past two years, if anything, the situation has probably gotten worse, and certainly [00:10:49] the ecological crisis facing our planet has gotten worse, so we're still a little bit [00:10:55] behind the game, but it's never too late. [00:11:00] I did want to, before we open it up for any questions, I did want to make two observations. [00:11:06] One is, first, there are alternatives that are available. [00:11:11] There are certainly alternatives that are available, and the alternatives, while they [00:11:16] may not be as cost-efficient as styrofoam is at this point, the proposal that we're [00:11:26] making is not an economic argument. [00:11:30] It's an ecological argument. [00:11:32] It's not an economic argument. [00:11:33] It's an ecological argument, and as some of you may know, the root word for ecology is [00:11:44] the same root word as economy. [00:11:49] Ecology and economy both come from the Greek word oikos, like the yogurt, right? [00:11:56] Which means home, and in a way, what we're faced with in our culture and in our little [00:12:02] city is kind of a struggle with our two homes. [00:12:09] One home is the home of the ecology, which is the natural world that sustains us all, [00:12:14] and the other world is the world of our economy, which tends to dominate our thought process [00:12:20] on virtually everything. [00:12:22] This argument, this proposal, is indeed based on ecology, not necessarily on economy, and [00:12:32] at a certain point, as the saying goes, you can pay us now or pay us later, at a certain [00:12:38] point, there will be a price to pay for not recognizing the first home in which we all [00:12:44] live, which is the home of our ecology. [00:12:48] In that context, I do want to call attention to the response that we have to the comments [00:12:55] from the Chasco Fiesta, and everybody, I think, has a document, it should look something like [00:12:59] this. [00:13:00] I'm not going to read through the whole thing, and I realize that it did come to you relatively [00:13:04] late today, so I do apologize for that, but I do want to call attention to just a couple [00:13:09] parts of this response. [00:13:12] The first part is the very first paragraph, which I will read. [00:13:17] In response to Al Renito from Chasco Fiesta and concerns regarding the committee's proposal, [00:13:24] it appears that Mr. Renito has provided an assessment based on economic impact, while [00:13:31] our proposal is focused on ecological concerns. [00:13:35] That's kind of the substance of this proposal, and it's up to the council to make the call, [00:13:40] make the decision as to whether the economic concerns outweigh the ecological concerns. [00:13:48] This is a great topic, and one that would be wonderful to spend extended time on. [00:13:54] It would be great to have even a debate about the merits of this proposal in contrast with [00:14:01] the economic concerns, but this is not the time for that. [00:14:05] The main point, and now I'm going to move down to what would be the fourth paragraph, [00:14:11] and just the first line in the fourth paragraph, which you can read along with me. [00:14:16] The main point of the committee's proposal is to prevent city-approved events from generating [00:14:23] more styrofoam and polystyrene waste, which cannot be processed through recycling faculties [00:14:32] in Pasco County. [00:14:34] Then finally, the very last paragraph, which is essentially two sentences. [00:14:43] Finally, whatever the basic cost may be, with these products there is an externality, which [00:14:52] is a hidden cost, the hidden cost of using any amount of styrofoam or polystyrene. [00:15:00] Manufacturing process, distribution, and after use effects of these materials are each and [00:15:08] all together unsustainable, harmful to humans, damaging to ecosystems, and culturally unappealing. [00:15:20] And that's our argument. [00:15:21] That's the substance of the argument. [00:15:24] Below that, on the sheet that you have, and you should have on this one a double line [00:15:30] with some citations, those are actual quotes from the article that Chasco Fiesta representative [00:15:43] used in his article. [00:15:46] These are the quotes that were not included in his response to our proposal. [00:15:53] Those quotes per se, and you can read them for yourself, reveal clearly that in that [00:16:00] academic article from Science Daily, that the researchers concluded that styrofoam cannot [00:16:09] be considered sustainable packaging. [00:16:13] As styrofoam is not recycled at a mass level, and often ends up in landfills, and I would [00:16:19] also observe not just landfills, but where else? [00:16:24] On our city streets, in our river, on our shorelines, and really everywhere else in [00:16:33] creation. [00:16:34] And so, on that basis, we propose to you that we consider a minor adjustment to the application [00:16:43] form that we use for city events, and that would be to include the prohibition on the [00:16:51] use of styrofoam containers. [00:16:53] I do want to note that with us tonight again is Kristen King, who is from Keep Pasco Beautiful, [00:17:00] and she is a specialist in designing initiatives that directly relate to the elimination of [00:17:09] plastic and styrofoam containers and other non-recyclables. [00:17:14] And I did acknowledge her earlier during the Arbor Day presentation, there's Kristen, and [00:17:19] she would be available also to work with the council, the city, the environmental committee, [00:17:25] in looking for alternatives to the use of styrofoam. [00:17:30] So thank you all for considering this request. [00:17:32] Thank you all for being great leaders of our city, and representatives of the people. [00:17:37] And really, I affirm and trust supporters of the environment. [00:17:42] Thank you all. [00:17:43] Thank you. [00:17:44] Any questions for Mr. Deschamps? [00:17:49] I have one for Kristen. [00:17:51] Does the county have this on their books? [00:18:02] The county does not, that I know of, have this on its books. [00:18:06] But what we are working on from a county perspective, along with Keep Pasco Beautiful, Keep Pasco [00:18:11] Beautiful partners with the Pasco County Department of Public Works on a lot of different things. [00:18:16] And we have a new program that we've rolled out called Companies for a Cause. [00:18:20] And what we are trying to do, we have focused on restaurants, and we are trying to make [00:18:24] them more sustainable by educating them. [00:18:27] We do have some businesses downtown, Lake Rose's Bistro and Ordinance One, that are [00:18:31] partners with us. [00:18:33] And what we're actually doing right now is we're working with a company called Auburn [00:18:37] Supply. [00:18:38] They provide eco-friendly products. [00:18:39] They're located out of Clearwater. [00:18:41] We are working on having some meetings with them. [00:18:45] They actually have cooperative pricing through Ocean Allies, which is a large program down [00:18:50] in Clearwater and St. Petersburg. [00:18:52] So we're actually trying to work with them to bring that program up to Pasco County and [00:18:58] New Port Richey. [00:19:00] A lot of times, people hear eco-friendly options, and they automatically think it's much more [00:19:05] expensive. [00:19:06] And frequently, it can actually be the same price, if not cheaper. [00:19:10] And we're hoping that if we can look at bulk buying, that we can actually get those prices [00:19:15] reduced. [00:19:16] And we would be more than happy to help with any events that want to participate in something [00:19:20] like that. [00:19:21] Is your county commission at all work sessioning this, or even considering it? [00:19:27] No. [00:19:28] Is there any other city of the five cities in Pasco County that are doing this proposal? [00:19:34] Not to my knowledge, but I... [00:19:35] Are you guys familiar with any city in Florida? [00:19:38] Yes. [00:19:39] City of St. Petersburg, I would think. [00:19:40] I don't know if St. Petersburg has it, but... [00:19:44] And I do, again, recognize one of the representatives from the Environmental Committee. [00:19:49] Tallahassee passed an ordinance that is remarkably similar to what we are proposing. [00:19:54] Now, Tim, I don't know if you would be familiar with that ordinance in Tallahassee, but that [00:19:59] would be the model for what we are thinking of doing here. [00:20:03] It only pertains to city-sponsored and approved events. [00:20:08] It's not wholesale, it's not large-scale for all businesses in the city, but just pertaining [00:20:15] to city-sponsored events. [00:20:18] So Tallahassee would be a source for a potential ordinance. [00:20:22] Linda, did you have anything further on that? [00:20:24] No, that's pretty much it, but we're trying to get closer to the actual... [00:20:29] Yeah. [00:20:30] We're doing the research right now ourselves, but I certainly welcome City Manager Tim and [00:20:34] the staff if they wanted to see if they could pull that ordinance, that would be a model. [00:20:37] I'm considering, what I'm thinking about is I'd just like to know some cities that are [00:20:41] our size. [00:20:42] Tallahassee is a little bigger than we are. [00:20:44] It is. [00:20:45] You know, and a Tallahassee event, if they're doing it a city-wide, that's a huge event. [00:20:49] I mean, you brought up Chasco, Chasco's a multi-million dollar event for this city. [00:20:54] So I would like some kind of working together type of thing if there was. [00:20:59] So pricing's definitely going to be a factor when it comes to working with Chasco or any [00:21:03] city event. [00:21:04] Thank you. [00:21:05] Well, not to preempt Kristen again, but there certainly are economies of scale that are [00:21:10] building in with both recyclable material as well as compostable materials that while [00:21:17] it is not an exact offset for styrofoam, I think that it's getting very, very close [00:21:22] right now and potentially could get much closer if, again, the council is willing to step [00:21:27] forward and create the opportunity and the incentive for the Chasco Fiesta and any of [00:21:33] the other events to do it. [00:21:34] And I do know that there's some events that are being planned, such as the Loquat Festival, [00:21:38] some events that are being planned that are definitely going to follow this model, whether [00:21:41] or not the city takes the initiative on it. [00:21:44] And we actually have the Upcycle Festival. [00:21:47] Key Pass for Beautiful has the Upcycle Festival on some charts. [00:21:50] Pull the microphone. [00:21:52] When we actually had it with the food trucks, we actually, three years ago I believe it [00:21:59] was, we partnered with a food truck company out of Tampa, and that was one of the requirements [00:22:03] we gave them, is that no styrofoam was allowed. [00:22:06] That's actually a requirement that we give our vendors, is that no styrofoam is allowed. [00:22:10] Is that Michael Blasco? [00:22:13] Are you dealing with him? [00:22:14] No. [00:22:15] It was the Tampa Bay Food Truck Company. [00:22:18] Yeah, that's Michael. [00:22:19] That's not who I dealt with, though. [00:22:21] It was a female that I dealt with. [00:22:22] Okay. [00:22:23] Again, it was like three years ago. [00:22:24] But I do think, again, that we could look at it as a partnership, that it wouldn't have [00:22:29] to be punitive necessarily for the events. [00:22:32] And I think it could be beneficial for the events as long as, as would the city, because [00:22:36] then the events themselves could build themselves as being more eco-friendly, and that could [00:22:41] attract different people as well to those events. [00:22:43] So I think it could be beneficial for everybody concerned. [00:22:48] Is there, a couple questions, is, are there recycle facilities for styrofoam? [00:22:54] The only type of recycling for styrofoam is going to be something like Publix that's going [00:22:57] to do the trays. [00:22:59] The problem with, as it was mentioned with the number six, Pasco County does not recycle [00:23:05] number six plastic. [00:23:07] So if you turn the bottle, like water bottles are typically number two. [00:23:10] So number six is not recycled in Pasco County. [00:23:12] And any of the recycling coming from the city is going to go to the Pasco County MRF that's [00:23:17] then processed in Pinellas County. [00:23:19] So. [00:23:20] The reason I ask, is there a place over in Plant C or something, it seems like I remember [00:23:25] reading about some place over there that does recycle, I just wonder if the, you know, the, [00:23:29] you know, to really to make a difference is to, you know, maybe set it up so Pasco County, [00:23:38] collect recyclables, collect that, sort it out and ship it off to the recycler. [00:23:44] So the problem with a lot of these products is that it's, you can recycle anything. [00:23:50] It's the back end of what do you use that raw material for then. [00:23:53] And that number six plastic is not being used to produce other items, which is why it's [00:23:58] not being recycled because there's no market for it. [00:24:01] So even if you recycle it, it's nowhere for it to go. [00:24:05] That's why it's not recycled on a mass scale. [00:24:09] I would also observe very quickly in the same regard, I would also observe very quickly [00:24:15] in this regard, I am alert to your time, so we want to be respectful of that. [00:24:20] Another item that's not recycled in Pasco County, but could be recycled is glass. [00:24:26] Now that's off topic a bit from the styrofoam, but glass, there is actually a market for [00:24:31] glass and it could be recycled. [00:24:34] The other observation about styrofoam, whether or not we actually get to the point of trying [00:24:38] to recycle it, the challenge with styrofoam is that it is not compostable nor biodegradable. [00:24:46] And that continues to be a lingering challenge within the entire ecosystem. [00:24:51] That cardboard will eventually break down, paper will eventually break down, but styrofoam [00:24:56] does not. [00:24:58] And styrofoam, like all the other plastics, remains in the ecosystem. [00:25:02] How long, Noah? [00:25:03] 500 years. [00:25:04] Noah said 500 years, I think it's probably even longer than that. [00:25:09] But there's many other issues related to that. [00:25:11] That's why at some point along the line, it'd be great to continue this discussion and see [00:25:17] if we can make some really positive and constructive progress, not just on styrofoam, but with [00:25:23] all recyclables and moving in the direction of compostable and also including glass in [00:25:28] that reflection too. [00:25:29] There is a glass recycling center in Sarasota, and there's also, Pinellas County also recycles [00:25:37] their glass, which we don't do in Pasco County. [00:25:40] We don't have that option available here. [00:25:42] Noah, did you have one last thought on this? [00:25:46] I just wanted to address the economic impact regarding the Chasco Fiesta, and what Mr. [00:25:52] Renetto sent as a comment to our proposal. [00:25:57] He gave some figures stating that it was going to be this much per 1,000 takeout containers, [00:26:03] yet in another line in his comments, he states that the vendors at the Chasco Fiesta don't [00:26:08] generate a large amount as compared to the annual waste of local restaurants and food [00:26:12] trucks. [00:26:13] So, if the Chasco Fiesta, the manager or whoever Al is, whatever his position at Chasco Fiesta [00:26:22] is there, the director, is stating that they don't generate as much of a large amount as [00:26:27] compared to the local restaurants and food trucks, then they shouldn't have much to worry [00:26:31] about when it comes to the economic cost of just using an alternative. [00:26:35] Again, we're not mandating in this proposal that they have to use a compostable container [00:26:42] or a cardboard or paper. [00:26:44] They just have to use a different type of plastic that can be recycled. [00:26:48] I would just like to add one other thing. [00:26:53] Mr. Davis, you mentioned asking what the county does. [00:26:57] One thing I absolutely love about the City of New Port Richey is that you guys are so [00:27:00] innovative on so many things. [00:27:02] Sometimes I think you're almost ahead of the county on what you're doing. [00:27:05] The fact that you guys have a yard waste program, you have a composting program, the county [00:27:09] would absolutely love to be able to put something like that in place. [00:27:12] We haven't to date because it's just a scale issue. [00:27:15] It's such a large geographic area that sometimes the county struggles with how to put those [00:27:20] processes in place. [00:27:21] With the city being a smaller geographic area, it's just the ability to run different types [00:27:26] of pilot programs, different types of environmental partnerships and programs that could be really, [00:27:31] really exciting. [00:27:32] You guys could actually be the innovative piece for Pasco County and take the lead by [00:27:37] showing by example what could actually work and be beneficial, again, for everybody not [00:27:41] being punitive. [00:27:42] Very good. [00:27:43] Thank you. [00:27:44] Any other questions? [00:27:47] Thank you all very, very much. [00:27:48] Thank you. [00:27:49] We're considering this and look forward to further comments on it.

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   Purchases/Payments for City Council Approval

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   [00:33:55] at that section. So, I mean, this is nothing new. And now I'm supposed to go through how [00:34:00] many more years? I'm 76. I'm not going to live another 40 years in trying to deal with [00:34:05] the drainage problem there. I want to know what's going to happen. We can't start chopper

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    Second Reading, Ordinance No. 2022-2253 RE: Property Exchange w/Pasco County

    discussed

    Second reading of Ordinance No. 2022-2253 authorizing a property exchange with Pasco County: the City would acquire county property at 5640 Main Street (including a portion of the Nebraska Avenue parking lot) and convey Pine Hill Park (6220 Pine Hill Road, 9.93 acres plus two lots) to the county. The City Manager presented the item and requested authority to execute the exchange and an extended occupancy agreement.

    Ord. Ordinance No. 2022-2253

    • motion:Motion to approve the consent agenda. (passed)

    📍5640 Main Street📍6220 Pine Hill Road🏢Pasco County👤Ms. Mance#Extended Occupancy Agreement#Nebraska Avenue parking lot#Ordinance No. 2022-2253#Pine Hill Park

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    [00:34:11] all over again, like you told me in the hall, with engineers and all kinds of things. This [00:34:16] has gone on for too long. Other people have had problems. And they may want to speak to [00:34:21] that. [00:34:22] Thank you. Anyone else? Seeing no one else coming forward, we'll close Vox Pop and go [00:34:33] to the consent agenda. [00:34:35] Move for approval. [00:34:38] Second. [00:34:39] All those in favor? [00:34:40] Aye. [00:34:41] Aye. [00:34:42] Opposed? Like sign. Motion passes. [00:34:44] Next, public reading of ordinances. Second reading ordinance 2022-2253. [00:34:51] This is ordinance number 2022-2253, an ordinance of the city of New Port Richey, Florida, providing [00:34:56] for the exchange of surplus city property with Pasco County, providing for the acquisition [00:35:00] from the county of the property generally located at 5640 Main Street, as legally described [00:35:06] herein, providing for the conveyance to the county of the Pine Hill Park property generally [00:35:10] located at 6220 Pine Hill Road, as legally described herein, providing authorization [00:35:15] to the city manager to execute all documents in accordance herewith and providing for an [00:35:19] effective date. [00:35:20] Ms. Mance? [00:35:21] Certainly, Mr. Mayor. As was presented to you at your last meeting, the purpose of this [00:35:28] agenda item, in large part, is to garner your support for the transfer of property as described [00:35:39] by the city attorney. The county's property is situated, as indicated, at 5640 Main Street [00:35:49] and does include a portion of the Nebraska Avenue parking lot. The city's property is [00:35:58] generally located at 6220 Pine Hill Park. It is comprised of 9.93 acres and two lots [00:36:07] across the street, the northeast corner of the park. The specific authority that I'm [00:36:16] asking in relationship to the property exchange is the authority to enter into the agreement [00:36:24] for the exchange of real property and to enter into the agreement for the extended occupancy [00:36:31] agreement. The appraisals on the properties, as well as the surveys and copies of the [00:36:42] agreements are attached to your agenda item. And I'm prepared to respond to whatever questions

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    Second Reading, Ordinance No. 2022-2251: New Private Property Rights Element for Comprehensive Plan

    Second reading of Ordinance 2022-2251, adopting a new Private Property Rights Element into the city's comprehensive plan as required by 2021 state legislation (F.S. 163.3177). Staff recommended adopting four statutory statements addressing property owners' rights to possess, control, use, develop, and improve their property.

    Ord. Ordinance No. 2022-2251

    👤Governor DeSantis👤Ms. Manns#2021 legislative session#Comprehensive Plan#Florida Statutes Section 163.3177#Ordinance No. 2022-2251#Private Property Rights Element

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    [00:36:48] you have of me. [00:36:49] Thank you. We'll open up for public comment. Seeing no one come forward, bring it back [00:36:56] to Council. [00:36:57] Move for approval. [00:36:58] Second. [00:36:59] To the maker? [00:37:00] Nothing more. [00:37:01] To the second? [00:37:02] We talked about it last meeting. Not one to give up real estate ever, but in this situation, [00:37:09] I think it really will benefit the city and not distract from the use of the ball fields. [00:37:16] Mr. Murphy? [00:37:17] Oh, I'm good. I just had one question. The two lots on the north side, how did those [00:37:22] get combined in? [00:37:24] They actually were acquired by the city for the purpose of establishing additional parking [00:37:34] for use by attendees to the ball field. And the county, as part of their plans to improve [00:37:44] the ball field, very much would like to establish the parking on those lots as well. [00:37:48] The extra parking we never put in. [00:37:50] Right. [00:37:52] Any other questions, comments? Hearing none, all those in favor, please signify by saying [00:37:57] aye. [00:37:58] Aye. [00:37:59] Opposed, like sign. Motion passes. Next is second reading ordinance 2022-2251. [00:38:06] This is ordinance number 2022-2251, an ordinance of the city of New Port Richey, Florida, providing [00:38:11] for amendment of the city's adopted comprehensive plan, providing for adoption of a new private [00:38:15] property rights element in accordance with section 163.3177 Florida statutes, providing [00:38:21] for protection of private property rights, providing for conflict, severability, and [00:38:24] an effective date. [00:38:25] Ms. Manns? [00:38:26] As indicated by the city attorney, this is the second reading, and it relates to new [00:38:31] private property rights elements that must be incorporated into our city's comprehensive [00:38:38] plan based on some action that was effectuated during the 2021 legislative session and signed [00:38:51] into law by Governor DeSantis. In short, the legislation or the law requires that the city [00:39:03] take into consideration private property rights when considering planning and development [00:39:13] decisions and that it's reflected in our comprehensive plan. They allow us a good number of ways [00:39:22] in which to do that, but they have advanced four statements that if we incorporate those [00:39:33] statements into our comprehensive plan meet the requirements of the law. And so we are [00:39:40] specifically recommending that we adopt the four statements, and they're as follows, that [00:39:46] the right of a property owner to physically possess and control his or her interest in [00:39:51] the property, including easements, leases, and mineral rights will be considered. The [00:39:58] right of a property owner to use, maintain, develop, and improve his or her property for [00:40:03] personal use or for the use of any other person subject to state law and local ordinances

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    2015/2016 Sewer Improvements Project/2019 Orangewood Lakes Pump Station and Force Main Project Change Order No. 1 Close Outs

    approved

    Council approved a deductive change order and project closeout for the 2015/2016 Sewer Improvements Project and 2019 Orangewood Lakes Pump Station and Force Main Project with Augustine Construction Company. The work included lift station rehabilitation/demolition/construction and installation of force main and gravity sewer lines, including extensions into the Orangewood Lakes area to divert flows. The deductive change order was $88,312.46 with a final pay request not to exceed $311,029.65.

    • motion:Approve the deductive change order of $88,312.46, the contractor's final pay request not to exceed $311,029.65, and the closeout of the project and change order. (passed)

    📍Avery and Court Street📍Azalea and Marine Parkway📍Golf Drive📍Magnolia Valley📍Olsteen Road (Old Steam Road)📍Sunrunner Drive📍between Hemlock and Tangelo Drive🏢Augustine Construction Company👤Mr. Rivera👤Ms. Manns#2015/2016 Sewer Improvements Project#2019 Orangewood Lakes Pump Station and Force Main Project#Change Order No. 1#Water and Sewer Construction Fund

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    [00:40:10] will be considered. The right of the property owner to privacy and to exclude others from [00:40:16] the property to protect the owner's possessions and property. And the right of property owner [00:40:22] to dispose of his or her property through sale or gift. And so to maintain the consistency [00:40:29] of the state law, these private property elements are recommended to be adopted as part of our [00:40:39] comprehensive plan, and I'm prepared to respond to any questions you have related to the proposed [00:40:46] ordinance. [00:40:47] Thank you. I'll open it up for public comments. [00:40:56] John Cain, 6041 Florida Avenue. My comment's in form of a question. How does this private [00:41:09] property clause, does it have any effect on ordinances such as the parking on the grass [00:41:19] ordinance on people's property where prior you were allowed to do that and then we passed [00:41:24] an ordinance? Would that be in conflict at all, Mr. Driscoll, with the state's? [00:41:32] This really is just a codification of existing law. We've been recognizing private property [00:41:37] rights like this for many, many years. So this really doesn't change anything, and it [00:41:42] certainly doesn't make an ordinance like that unlawful. [00:41:45] Thank you. [00:41:46] Thank you. Any other comments? Seeing no one else coming forward, bring it back to council. [00:41:55] Move for approval. [00:41:56] Second. [00:41:57] To the maker? [00:41:58] No, nothing. [00:41:59] To the second? [00:42:00] No. [00:42:01] Mr. Peters? [00:42:02] Yes, sir. [00:42:03] In case all those in favor, please signify by saying aye. [00:42:04] Aye. [00:42:05] Aye. [00:42:06] Motion passes. Next is the 2015-2016 Sewer Improvements Project, 2019 Oakwood Lake Pump [00:42:14] Station and Force Main Project Change Order Number 1 Closeouts. Ms. Manns? [00:42:20] Yes, we do have a negative change order for you in a project closeout with Augustine Construction [00:42:28] Company, and Mr. Rivera will be presenting the agenda item and he has prepared a PowerPoint [00:42:35] in that respect. Thank you, Ms. Manns. Yes, ma'am. [00:42:46] So as we had just talked about, this is the 2015-2016 Sewer Improvement Project is what [00:42:51] we started off with, and just wanted to add to that the years in front of the projects [00:42:58] are the years that we started in design. If you remember, we did purchase the Orangewood [00:43:05] Lake system, utility system that included water and sewer, and so we ended up taking [00:43:11] and adding that project to this one, the 2015-2016, and had the contractors submit a proposal [00:43:20] making it the change order number 1 that you had approved previously. [00:43:25] And so the scope of work that we've had in this project is lift station rehabilitation [00:43:30] with an existing station, lift station demolition, the construction of a new lift station, the [00:43:37] installation of force main and gravity sewer lines, and then our change order installed [00:43:43] force main and constructed a new lift station. Now the area maps that you see all describe [00:43:50] the work. We had an existing lift station at Avery and Court Street that was rehabilitated. [00:43:58] If you remember Marine Parkway, this was where the project began. We had an existing [00:44:04] lift station, an old can system, that was demolished at Azalea and Marine Parkway. We [00:44:11] installed 600 feet of 10 inch gravity line and installed a new lift station that was [00:44:19] just to the east that was in between Hemlock and Tangelo Drive. [00:44:26] We have been talking over the years about diverting our flows and getting some of it [00:44:30] over to the south end of the town, so we tied into the existing system at Golf Drive and [00:44:37] installed approximately 2,700 feet of 10 inch force main and came south and tied that into [00:44:43] the newly constructed Marine Parkway lift station. [00:44:50] And so then when we added our change order, we ended up taking in, as part of that system, [00:44:58] we did have the opportunity to purchase [00:45:00] their wastewater treatment plant. We declined that. We didn't feel like we wanted to go [00:45:04] through that closure process, so we ended up doing some modeling. We tied into our existing [00:45:12] system at Magnolia Valley and came down Olsteen Road. We installed approximately 7,800 feet [00:45:18] of 8-inch force main, then went over to Sunrunner Drive, and where their existing wastewater [00:45:26] treatment plant was at, we disconnected an existing lift station, turned it into a manhole, [00:45:32] and constructed a new lift station to be able to take those flows and get them into our [00:45:38] system. And so the funding that we did use for these two projects come out of the Water [00:45:46] and Sewer Construction Fund, and the request, as well as our recommendation, would be that [00:45:51] you do approve the deductive change order in the amount of $88,312.46, and then we have [00:45:58] the contractor's final pay request in amount not to exceed $311,029.65, and we would also [00:46:08] ask you to approve the closeout of the project, as well as the change order. [00:46:17] Thank you. I'll open it up for public comment. Seeing no one coming forward, I'll bring it back to Council. [00:46:24] Move we approve. [00:46:25] Second. [00:46:26] The maker. [00:46:29] Just a question. That area where we've installed the main over in the Orangewood area, are [00:46:37] all the homes in that general facility that's in the county, right, that we service, right, [00:46:42] that's outside the city limits, right, so it's in the county, all those homes there, [00:46:47] are they on sewer now, or are there still a considerable amount of septics in that area? [00:46:53] There are still septics in that area that we've talked about. We're in the process of [00:46:58] doing a master plan right now that includes modeling of our existing system. We need to [00:47:04] do that first before we start the process of bringing those customers online, so there [00:47:09] is quite a few areas over there that do have to be converted. [00:47:16] And so this is, from what I understand, this is like one of the first steps to allow that [00:47:21] to happen, right? [00:47:22] Correct. This is the beginning. [00:47:23] So I think it's a good step. Thank you. [00:47:24] But we were, there are a bunch of trailers that along Old Steam Road we were able to [00:47:28] connect and tie all the existing sewer customers into our system. [00:47:34] You answered my question. We don't take questions from the office. [00:47:39] I just want to know if I can have my three minutes not because it has to do with water systems. [00:47:43] No. [00:47:44] Mr. Murphy? [00:47:45] No, I'm good. [00:47:46] Okay. [00:47:47] No. [00:47:48] Anything else? [00:47:49] No. [00:47:50] Hearing none, all those in favor, please signify by saying aye. [00:47:54] Aye. [00:47:55] Opposed, like sign. Motion passes. [00:47:58] Next, we've got discussion on the continued closure of Railroad Square. Ms. Manns, would

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    Discussion Regarding the Continued Closure of Railroad Square

    tabled

    Council discussed whether to continue the weekend closure of Railroad Square, originally implemented in May 2020 for COVID-era social distancing and outdoor business use. Members observed the space is underutilized but agreed to table the matter until feedback is received from affected businesses, directing staff to follow up and re-agenda the item for a February meeting.

    • direction:Council directed staff to continue outreach to Railroad Square businesses, including Rosie's and Derek Potlant, and re-agenda the item for a February meeting. (passed)
    • consensus:Council consensus to table the decision on continued Railroad Square closure until business owner feedback is received. (passed)

    📍Grand Boulevard📍Railroad Square🏢Rosie's🏢Wanna Taco👤Altman👤Debbie Manns👤Derek Potlant👤Murphy#COVID-19 outdoor dining accommodations#Railroad Square walkability/shade structure future plans#Railroad Square weekend closure#expedited special event approval process

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    [00:48:03] you like to? [00:48:04] I would. As was suggested at your last meeting, we are due to have some continued discussion [00:48:17] or some discussion related to whether or not we want to continue to close Railroad Square [00:48:24] on the weekends. As you'll recall, we started to do that in May of 2020 to allow some space [00:48:34] for social distancing to afford the businesses that front Railroad Square an opportunity [00:48:41] for some expanded opportunities to serve restaurants and other forms of customers, their customer [00:48:54] base. It appears, though, as if the use may be somewhat limited or more limited than what [00:49:02] we would expect. And so Councilman Altman suggested that we have some discussion. It [00:49:10] was also suggested that we receive some input from some of the business owners that front [00:49:19] Railroad Square. And in that respect, a letter went out last week, probably later in the [00:49:25] week than what should have been the case. It did go out last week. We haven't received [00:49:31] any responses yet. So I don't have any input to provide to you today from any of the members [00:49:39] of our business community. The purpose tonight is for you to have discussion about whether [00:49:47] or not you think it's an appropriate practice or not for us to continue to close Railroad [00:49:52] Square on weekends and to direct staff as to what you think the appropriate course of [00:49:58] action should be. [00:49:59] If anybody has any comments on Railroad Square closure? Seeing no one coming forward, I'll [00:50:07] bring it back to Council. Let me just kick this off. You know, it was really important [00:50:14] that we do this back when the bars and the restaurants were being severely shortened [00:50:22] on how much they could have inside to the point of the bars, they couldn't have anybody [00:50:28] inside, and it was basically a crisis for those businesses. And we opened it up, and [00:50:35] they used it back when that was going on. I don't see it getting used much now. Personally, [00:50:43] I don't mind if somebody wants to do something that spreads out into the street. I'd like [00:50:52] to toss out the idea, maybe some sort of expedited approval process if Wanna Taco or [00:51:01] one of the other places wants to put a band out in the street and have a party at night. [00:51:11] You know, so they don't have to go through the whole special event thing, but they can [00:51:14] just get Railroad Square specific shut down for a few hours so that happens. I would have [00:51:20] no problem with that if that works for everybody else. [00:51:25] Thoughts? [00:51:26] I would like to, I'd like this table until we hear from the businesses. I think that's, [00:51:30] you know, kind of, you know, they're the one that's put us up here, and I'd like to, you [00:51:35] know, if they live in the city, but, you know, I'd like to get their input, and if you said [00:51:40] you got it out a little late, let's give them another two weeks to get back to us. [00:51:45] I'd be okay to wait and hear that. I, you know, my personal observations is much like [00:51:50] yours, Mayor, you know, is that it's just not being utilized. I think, you know, I'd [00:51:57] love to see, you know, throngs of people up and down there visiting, you know, the business [00:52:01] and so forth. Some of the businesses have changed since that time, and some, and obviously the [00:52:08] allowance of people back into their facilities has allowed people to do that, and they don't [00:52:13] need to be outside, but I, my observation indicates that maybe the usefulness of what [00:52:22] we initially set that up has run its course. I do like the idea of having availability [00:52:28] for those businesses. They want to have a special event to have something easy to do [00:52:32] that. I don't know that there's a, some businesses have complained about the road being [00:52:39] closed, but I don't, I think they've adapted to that, and it's not a big deal, particularly [00:52:47] if it wasn't on a regular basis. So I'd like to, you know, hear from the businesses, and [00:52:53] if they have an objection, I'd like to maybe look to open it up again, if we could find [00:52:58] it. I like the idea of having an easy way. [00:53:00] Mr. Murphy, any thoughts? [00:53:01] Yeah, I agree that we should probably wait until we get some feedback from the businesses [00:53:05] and the people that are affected. My personal opinion is I think that, I don't think it's [00:53:11] hurting anything being closed, maybe not during the day, but in the evenings, that way the [00:53:16] people on that block know that it's always closed. I know we started during COVID, but [00:53:21] that's something we're talking about with Railroad Square and that whole area there [00:53:25] is going to be walkability and talking about putting, you know, shade structures and different [00:53:29] things for events, and it's going to be, it will be closed if that's what we do. So this [00:53:34] is something that's going to happen eventually anyways. So I don't really see the big deal. [00:53:40] It's something that we're looking forward in the future to actually do. So, but, I mean, [00:53:46] you know, if that's a couple years off, you know, we'll see, but I'll be glad to listen [00:53:52] to the businesses and see what they have to say. [00:53:54] Ms. Manns, can we re-agenda this for the March, one of the March meetings? [00:54:00] Yes. [00:54:01] February. [00:54:03] I'm doing my best to get through them the next month. What can I say? Yeah, at one of [00:54:08] the February meetings, and just revisit it, see if you've gotten any responses back. [00:54:14] We'll make sure that we do. [00:54:15] Okay, that's fair enough. [00:54:17] Even if we don't hear from them. [00:54:21] We'll initiate personal contact if we haven't heard from them. [00:54:24] Yeah, there you go. There you go. Thank you. Fair enough. I don't want to do anything. [00:54:28] And also, I'd like you to consider Rosie's, even though their address is Grand Boulevard. [00:54:34] They were included. [00:54:35] Okay, good. [00:54:37] Okay, we're now to... [00:54:39] How about Derek Potlant, was he included? [00:54:46] I don't remember specifically. [00:54:48] Look at him, because he's given me his opinion, too. [00:54:51] I would get anybody that backs up to him. [00:54:54] Yeah, he should have been, but I'll double check. [00:54:56] Okay. [00:54:57] That makes sense. [00:54:59] We're now to communications. Mike, anything?

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14. 12Communications▶ 55:09
15. 13Adjournment▶ 1:00:50