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City CouncilTue, Aug 17, 2021

Council adopted a $8.38 million American Rescue Plan spending plan and awarded a $460,800 Orangewood Lakes water system contract to Harbor Contracting.

13 items on the agenda · 9 decisions recorded

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  1. 1Call to Order – Roll Call0:00
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    Pledge of Allegiance

    The Pledge of Allegiance was recited.

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    [00:00:19] I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for [00:00:26] which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

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    Moment of Silence

    Brief procedural moment of silence at the opening of the meeting.

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    [00:00:45] Thank you. [00:00:46] You may be seated. [00:00:47] Do I know what this is? [00:00:53] Okay.

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    Approval of Work Session and Regular Meeting Minutes

    approved

    Council approved the minutes from a prior work session and regular meeting.

    • motion:Motion to approve the work session and regular meeting minutes. (passed)
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    [00:00:55] The next item is approval of the work session regular meeting minutes from some time. [00:01:03] Move for approval. [00:01:04] Second. [00:01:05] Any discussion? [00:01:06] Hearing none, all those in favor, please signify by saying aye. [00:01:13] Aye. [00:01:14] Opposed, like sign. [00:01:15] Motion passes.

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    Proclamation - Volunteer Recognition Day (By Title Only)

    approved

    A proclamation recognizing Volunteer Recognition Day on August 25th was read into the record by title only.

    • consensus:Proclamation for Volunteer Recognition Day (August 25th) read into the record by title only. (passed)
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    [00:01:16] We only have one proclamation. [00:01:19] It is for Volunteer Recreation Day, which is going to be on August the 25th, and this [00:01:26] is being read into the record by Titan Homely, so I will pass that down to the City Clerk. [00:01:33] Next is Fox Pop.

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  6. 6Vox Pop for Items Not Listed on the Agenda or Listed on Consent Agenda1:36
  7. 7.a

    Purchases/Payments for City Council Approval

    approvedon consent

    Council approved the consent item for purchases/payments without discussion.

    • motion:Motion to approve purchases/payments for City Council approval. (passed)
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    [00:08:29] Move for approval. [00:08:31] Second. [00:08:33] There's no discussion. [00:08:34] All those in favor, please signify by saying aye. [00:08:37] Aye. [00:08:38] Opposed, like sign. [00:08:39] Motion passes. [00:08:40] Next, business items.

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  8. 8.a

    Board Re-Appointment: Anna Mae McNally, Cultural Affairs Committee

    approved

    Council reappointed Anna Mae McNally to the Cultural Affairs Committee for a two-year term ending September 3, 2023.

    • motion:Reappoint Anna Mae McNally to the Cultural Affairs Committee through September 3, 2023. (passed)
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    [00:08:42] Board reappointment of Anna Mae McNally to the Cultural Affairs Committee. [00:08:47] Yes, Ms. McNally. [00:08:51] McNally has been on the Cultural Affairs Committee since 2019. [00:08:56] The terms of office for the Cultural Affairs Committee is for a two-year period of time. [00:09:02] Her current term is due to elapse on September 3rd, and she has requested reappointment to the board. [00:09:10] If you determine that it's appropriate to reappoint her, her renewal would be through September 3rd of 2023. [00:09:22] Move for approval. [00:09:24] Second. [00:09:25] To the maker. [00:09:26] Nothing more. [00:09:27] Second. [00:09:28] Thank you for serving. [00:09:29] Mr. Allman. [00:09:30] Mr. Peters. [00:09:31] No, sir. [00:09:32] Thank you. [00:09:33] In that case, thank you for serving. [00:09:34] All those in favor, please signify by saying aye. [00:09:36] Aye. [00:09:37] Aye. [00:09:38] Opposed, like sign. [00:09:39] Motion passes.

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  9. 8.b

    2020 Orangewood Lakes Water System Improvements – ITB 21-007 Bid Award

    approved

    Council awarded the low bid for the 2020 Orangewood Lakes Water System Improvements project (ITB 21-007) to Harbor Contracting, LLC in the amount of $460,800. The project involves installing approximately 3,100 linear feet of 12-inch water pipe, 930 linear feet of 6-inch, 150 linear feet of 4-inch, and five hydrant assemblies, funded through water and sewer construction funds.

    • motion:Motion to approve award of the low bid for ITB 21-007 to Harbor Contracting, LLC in the amount of $460,800. (passed)
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    [00:09:40] Next, 2020 Orangewood Lake Water System Improvements, ITB 21-007 bid award. [00:09:47] Sir, Mr. Mayor, members of the Council, Mr. Rivera has been working on the project, [00:09:55] and he has prepared a PowerPoint presentation for you this evening related to the low bid for the project. [00:10:04] Thank you, Ms. Manns. [00:10:07] So the request of staff for City Council is to consider for approval the low bid that was submitted by Harbor Contracting, LLC, [00:10:16] in the amount of $460,800. [00:10:21] On July 2nd, 2021, Harbor Contracting was the lowest bidder out of six bids that were submitted. [00:10:30] Their low bid, the original low bid that they submitted was $459,300 compared with the high bid of $689,800. [00:10:42] Subsequent to staff's review, we found that there were two minor mathematical errors, [00:10:47] and that's what brought that bid amount to the $460, and actually was still lower than the second lowest bidder that had submitted. [00:10:57] We have not worked with Harbor Contracting previously, [00:11:02] but the owner and a couple of the high management people have worked with the city under a different company name, [00:11:09] so we're very familiar with them. [00:11:11] We feel confident that they can go ahead and complete this project as designed. [00:11:16] And so when we look at the scope of the work, it's approximately 3,100 linear feet of 12-inch water pipe, [00:11:24] approximately 930 linear feet of 6-inch, and then approximately 150 linear feet of 4-inch, and then five hydrant assemblies. [00:11:35] The location of the project is the Orange Lake area, or Orangewood Lakes area, [00:11:42] that is just west off of Olsteen Road and south of Massachusetts Avenue. [00:11:49] If you recall, we had acquired that utility system a few years ago, and so these are the upgrades that we called out for. [00:11:59] And so with that, we've identified the funding as water and sewer construction funds, [00:12:03] and we would recommend that you approve the low bid and award the contract to Harbor Contracting, LLC. [00:12:11] Thank you. [00:12:12] We'll open it up for public comment. [00:12:14] Seeing no one come forward, bring it back to Council. [00:12:17] Move for approval. [00:12:20] Second. [00:12:21] Thank you. [00:12:22] Do we to the maker? [00:12:23] No. [00:12:24] Second? [00:12:25] No. [00:12:26] Mr. Altman? [00:12:27] No, sir. [00:12:28] Mr. Peters? [00:12:29] Just one question. [00:12:31] On these contract bids such as this, do we often, or do we and when do we require performance bonds? [00:12:40] On all of them. [00:12:41] On all of them? [00:12:42] Okay. [00:12:43] That's all I have. [00:12:44] Thank you. [00:12:45] In that case, there's no further discussion. [00:12:47] All those in favor, please signify by saying aye. [00:12:49] Aye.

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    Quarterly Cash & Investment Performance Report

    discussed

    Mrs. Feast presented the quarterly cash and investment performance report for the quarter ending June 30, 2021. The city's portfolio closed at $38,575,927 with $10,726 in quarterly earnings, with the decrease in checking account balance attributed to pay applications for the parking garage and library renovation projects.

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    [00:12:50] Opposed, like sign. [00:12:51] Motion passes. [00:12:53] The question is 56 and 75. [00:12:58] The next item is the quarterly cash and investment performance report. [00:13:02] And Mrs. Feast will be presenting the summary analysis of the status of our current investments on the portfolio [00:13:12] and the transactions over the last quarter. [00:13:16] Thank you. [00:13:18] Included in your packet was a report ending June 30, 2021 of the city's investment performance. [00:13:27] What I'm presenting to you tonight is a summary of that report. [00:13:34] So as of June 30, 2021, which was the end of the third quarter, [00:13:39] the city closed out its cash and investment portfolio at $38,575,927. [00:13:52] 13.9% of that amount came from the city's checking account, which totaled $5,374,617. [00:14:05] The investment portion of the portfolio closed out at $33,201,310. [00:14:16] With those funds being invested in the State Board of Administration, our Florida Prime, $13,310,751. [00:14:31] The next investment was in the Florida Municipal Investment Trust, which we held $4,392,029. [00:14:42] And our largest investment was in U.S. Treasury obligations, which closed out at $15,498,530. [00:14:53] The earnings for this quarter totaled $10,726. [00:15:00] which compared to last quarter is about $6,000 lower. [00:15:07] Over the past year, the city has not earned [00:15:11] as much historically as previous years, [00:15:15] and it's mainly due just to economic conditions [00:15:18] and the type of investments that we have our funds in. [00:15:24] They're very conservative governmental trust funds, [00:15:27] and so during these times, we do earn a little bit less [00:15:32] than some of the more volatile investments, [00:15:36] but they are safe and not as risky. [00:15:41] So during this time, though, you can see that [00:15:45] for the quarter, $10,726 is what was earned. [00:15:53] This next slide just provides you with a visual [00:15:55] of the composition of the portfolio. [00:15:58] You'll see that the largest portion [00:16:00] was in our U.S. Treasury obligations, [00:16:02] which consist of two T-bills, [00:16:05] one for $10 million and one for $5.5 million. [00:16:10] Once those mature, that would be [00:16:12] what the city would have earned, [00:16:15] and the maturity, the principal and the interest [00:16:18] would be at about $5.5 million. [00:16:23] The next largest composition is [00:16:26] in our State Board of Administration at 35%, [00:16:31] followed by the city's checking account at 5.4 million. [00:16:37] And lastly, we have 11% of the portfolio [00:16:40] is in our Florida Municipal Trust Fund. [00:16:45] Comparing this quarter to the prior quarter, [00:16:49] you'll see that the change is $3,794,862. [00:16:58] Most of that coming from a reduction [00:17:01] in the city's checking account [00:17:04] compared to the previous quarter. [00:17:07] It did go down about 3.8 million, [00:17:09] and that's largely due to the funds used [00:17:13] to cover the pay applications for the parking garage [00:17:16] and the library renovations, [00:17:17] those big construction projects. [00:17:23] The change in the investment accounts [00:17:25] is just the interest earned for the quarters. [00:17:29] I do want to point out that in U.S. Treasury obligations, [00:17:33] the $15.5 million, one of those T-bills [00:17:38] did mature at the beginning of the following month, [00:17:42] so early July, and that money was transferred [00:17:46] back into the checking account. [00:17:48] So that would get our checking account balance [00:17:50] back up to historical balances, [00:17:53] or what we're accustomed to seeing. [00:17:56] And that's all I have. [00:17:58] Any questions? [00:18:00] Hearing none, thank you very much.

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    Resolution No. 2021-58: American Rescue Plan Act Spending Plan

    approved

    Council considered Resolution 2021-58 adopting a spending plan for $8,382,786 in American Rescue Plan Act funds, increased from the originally projected $7,033,259. Finance Director Crystal Feist presented a five-category plan (revenue loss, staffing/payroll, programs, projects, purchases/preventative measures) split across two distribution years, with increases to affordable housing, business assistance, and downtown area improvements. The resolution passed unanimously.

    Ord. Resolution No. 2021-58

    • motion:Adopt Resolution 2021-58 authorizing acceptance and use of American Rescue Plan Act funds per the spending plan in Exhibit A. (passed)
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    [00:18:03] Next item is Resolution 2021-58. [00:18:07] This is Resolution number 2021-58, [00:18:10] a resolution of the City Council [00:18:11] of the City of New Port Richey, Florida, [00:18:13] authorizing acceptance and use of funds [00:18:15] provided to the City [00:18:16] pursuant to the American Rescue Plan Act of 2021, [00:18:19] providing for approval of expenditures [00:18:21] provided in Exhibit A attached to year two, [00:18:23] and providing an effective date. [00:18:27] This agenda item represents, [00:18:32] as the City Attorney indicated, [00:18:36] a proposed appropriation [00:18:39] of the American Rescue Plan Act funds. [00:18:44] The, it is different than the one [00:18:48] that was originally proposed to you, [00:18:51] as we learned over the last few days [00:18:54] that the city was to receive an additional $1,349,527. [00:19:05] That would be over the two-year period, [00:19:09] but because of the additional revenue, [00:19:14] we made some adjustments in the appropriations [00:19:18] that we were recommending to you, [00:19:20] as you'll, and I'll allow Mrs. Feist [00:19:23] to more fully present the program to you [00:19:27] as she has prepared a PowerPoint, [00:19:29] but in short, as you'll recall [00:19:32] from our original presentation to you, [00:19:36] the city had an opportunity [00:19:39] based on the revenue calculations [00:19:44] to accept more revenue than we were recommending to you [00:19:51] at the time to reflect the revenue loss [00:19:54] that we experienced as a result of COVID-19. [00:19:58] We bumped up both the numbers [00:20:02] in year one and year two to include for that, [00:20:08] and additionally, we appropriated additional funds [00:20:13] into three programs that you all collectively spoke [00:20:18] to us about and indicated interest [00:20:22] in seeing additional work being done in those areas, [00:20:26] and they were affordable housing development, [00:20:30] business assistance programs, [00:20:32] and the downtown area improvements. [00:20:37] And I'll, again, allow Crystal [00:20:39] to fully present the PowerPoint to you, [00:20:41] and we're prepared to respond to specific questions [00:20:45] that you may have of us. [00:20:47] All right. [00:20:50] So a lot of what I'll go over at the beginning [00:20:52] is background information, [00:20:54] a recap of the American Rescue Plan, [00:20:56] and we'll include some of the details [00:20:58] that City Manager Manns has already shared. [00:21:02] As you know, the American Rescue Plan Act passed [00:21:05] on March 11, 2021, and it provides a total [00:21:08] of $360 billion in relief to states and local governments. [00:21:13] Of that amount, municipalities are set [00:21:16] to receive $65.1 billion. [00:21:19] The city was originally projected [00:21:21] to receive $7,033,259, [00:21:26] but the final determination is that the allocation [00:21:30] will be $8,382,786. [00:21:36] The distribution will remain in two, [00:21:40] will still be two separate transactions. [00:21:43] The first half we can expect in October of 2021, [00:21:49] and the second half in October of 2022. [00:21:54] Just to go over a summary of the eligible use of funds, [00:22:00] it was passed and the guidance provided states [00:22:05] that these funds can be used to support public health [00:22:09] by funding COVID-19 mitigation efforts, [00:22:12] assist businesses in replacing lost revenue, [00:22:15] including the city, cover costs associated [00:22:18] with rehiring staff to pre-pandemic levels, [00:22:21] and provide premium pay to essential workers. [00:22:26] Additionally, these funds can be used [00:22:28] to address economic impacts, providing worker assistance, [00:22:33] household nutrition, rent, mortgage, or utility assistance, [00:22:37] and small business assistance. [00:22:40] It can also be used to improve access to clean water [00:22:43] by supporting the installation of wastewater [00:22:45] and stormwater infrastructure, and finally, [00:22:47] expand access to broadband internet [00:22:49] and protect vital IT resources. [00:22:52] Thank you. [00:22:56] So a summary of the proposed spending plan, [00:22:59] you'll see we've divided the spending into five categories, [00:23:06] and also divided it up into two years, [00:23:12] consistent with the distribution [00:23:15] of the American Rescue Plan money. [00:23:17] The first category is revenue loss, [00:23:20] and if you remember during the work session on July 29th, [00:23:26] I presented to you how the guidance used [00:23:31] to calculate revenue loss for the city. [00:23:34] Originally, we've estimated the revenue loss [00:23:39] in year 2020 to be $1,893,259, [00:23:43] and originally, we proposed to fund [00:23:50] that revenue loss over the two years. [00:23:53] The first portion was $1,393,093, [00:24:03] with the remaining 500,000 distributed in year two, [00:24:07] and we forego, we decided not to, [00:24:13] estimate revenue loss in the future years, [00:24:17] using that, the remaining American Rescue Plan money [00:24:20] to fund some of these other categories. [00:24:23] Well, now that we are receiving additional funds, [00:24:28] you'll see that we've increased the revenue loss [00:24:31] to be closer to what we've calculated in year one, [00:24:35] and then also provide an estimate [00:24:37] of what we think the revenue loss will be in 2021, [00:24:41] and we're funding a small portion of that in year two. [00:24:45] The next category is staffing and payroll, [00:24:48] totaling 215,000 in year one, 75,000 in year two, [00:24:53] and I'll go over the details of each [00:24:55] of these remaining categories on subsequent slides. [00:24:59] Programs, we're proposing to spend 975,000 in year one, [00:25:05] and 280,000 in year two. [00:25:07] Projects, 1,378,000 year one, 2,925,000 in year two. [00:25:16] Purchases and preventative measures, [00:25:18] 30,000 year one, 95,000 in year two. [00:25:22] The total of these years will exhaust [00:25:25] all of the American Rescue Plan funds [00:25:27] that we anticipate receiving. [00:25:31] So the details of our staffing and payroll category, [00:25:35] you'll see that COVID-19 related overtime, [00:25:40] we're still kept at 50,000 in year one, [00:25:44] and not requesting any additional in year two. [00:25:49] Unemployment claims, $40,000 in year one to this category, [00:25:54] none in year two. [00:25:56] Behavioral health care worker, [00:25:58] we've reduced slightly in year one, [00:26:01] anticipating that it will take some time [00:26:06] to actually fund this position or fill this position. [00:26:10] So we're proposing to fund it at 50,000 in year one, [00:26:15] 75,000 in year two. [00:26:17] And then hazard pay for essential workers [00:26:19] remain the same at 75,000 in year one, [00:26:22] and none in year two. [00:26:27] The next category is programs. [00:26:29] The first being affordable housing development. [00:26:35] Originally we proposed 200,000 in this category, [00:26:40] we've increased that to 250 in year one, [00:26:43] and added 100,000 to year two. [00:26:47] Business enhancement activities, [00:26:49] we've kept the same at 50,000, [00:26:52] but added 30,000 in year two. [00:26:55] Business assistance programs, [00:26:57] we've increased by 2,000 in year one, [00:27:02] and added- [00:27:03] 200,000. [00:27:04] I'm sorry, yes, 200,000 in year one, [00:27:07] and added 150,000 in year two. [00:27:12] Utilities assistance remain the same [00:27:14] at 50,000 in year one, and none in year two. [00:27:17] Advanced education programs remain the same, [00:27:20] year one at 25,000, and none in year two. [00:27:23] Downtown area improvements, [00:27:28] we've increased by 153,000 in year one, [00:27:34] and 150,000 in year two. [00:27:38] Increase in construction costs remain the same [00:27:41] at 350,000 year one, none in year two. [00:27:45] Stormwater improvement projects [00:27:47] for the downtown area remain the same. [00:27:51] Septic to sewer conversion also remain the same [00:27:55] with funding in year two. [00:28:00] Finally, under projects, [00:28:01] cybersecurity upgrades has $100,000 funded in each year [00:28:07] with no changes from what was originally proposed. [00:28:12] The last category, purchases and preventative measures. [00:28:16] We first proposed hand sanitizing stations in the park. [00:28:20] We're still gonna purchase those, [00:28:22] but we've found an alternative funding source for this, [00:28:25] so we won't be using American Rescue Plan money [00:28:29] for that purchase. [00:28:32] HVAC filters in all public facilities remain the same [00:28:35] with 30,000 funded in each year. [00:28:39] And then finally, technology-friendly locker systems [00:28:42] for the library remain the same [00:28:44] with 65,000 funded in year two. [00:28:49] There you go. [00:28:50] So that ends the presentation. [00:28:51] I will entertain any questions [00:28:53] along with City Manager Manns. [00:28:57] Open it up if there's any public comment. [00:29:10] George Roman Yoli, 6235 Warren Avenue. [00:29:14] I can't argue with the projects on this list, [00:29:17] but I can argue with... [00:29:26] But I can argue with some of the allocations of this. [00:29:29] First thing, I would ask the city to check [00:29:32] with the county on the Utilities Assistance Program. [00:29:34] I think they're covering that, [00:29:36] so that might be an expense you don't have to cover. [00:29:38] I know that's specifically for New Port Richey Utilities, [00:29:40] but you may wanna double check that. [00:29:44] If you remember during the recession [00:29:46] that we had last century, no, this century, [00:29:52] Pasco County was one of the largest recipients [00:29:54] of funds for housing. [00:29:57] In fact, Pasco County rehabilitated more... [00:30:00] family homes than any other community in Tampa Bay. Almost 1,000 purchased and rehabilitated. [00:30:07] With the price of housing as it is today, you're funding maybe one and a half houses because if [00:30:13] you want to rehabilitate the homes where they should be, if you want to get rid of the jealousy [00:30:17] windows and make wind-borne windows, if you want to make the roofs secure, if you want to create [00:30:24] energy efficiencies, you're going to have to spend a lot more money than you're expecting. [00:30:29] When I bought my house, I looked at about a dozen houses in the city. Just about every house did a [00:30:35] lot of improvements on those houses. They were all done by flippers. None of them got building [00:30:39] permits, and none of them went to the systems that really needed the work, electrical, plumbing, [00:30:46] HVAC, and the like. If you really do a housing rehabilitation program, you want to [00:30:50] rehabilitate the house to bring it up to code, and so it will last for at least 40 or 50 years [00:30:57] without major maintenance issues. That will cost money. Now, when we were doing rehabilitation [00:31:03] back in the 2010s, of course, the average house was a lot cheaper. You could buy a house in the [00:31:09] city very easily for $40,000, $50,000, $60,000, but we averaged in rehabilitation $80,000 to $90,000. [00:31:17] What the cost is today with the cost of construction, I think might be a lot more. [00:31:21] The other thing you may want to consider, besides increasing the allocation for that, [00:31:26] is if you want to make it specifically for low and moderate income families, [00:31:31] make it permanently for low and moderate income families. As you know, I was a community development [00:31:36] director for the county. I think my biggest failure was not making the homes that we rehabilitated [00:31:41] permanently affordable, and there's a way you can do that. It's called community land trust. [00:31:47] What that does is that the community and trust owns the land, and the buyer buys the building. [00:31:55] So when the next person, when they sell the building, they don't get as much appreciation, [00:31:59] but the next buyer, first they have to be low or moderate income, and second, [00:32:04] they will get a cheaper price on their home that they can afford. There are non-profits in Tampa [00:32:10] Bay that can manage this for you, so you don't have to worry about the management and administration [00:32:14] of that. So I would just encourage you to look at expanding the funding for this, maybe up to [00:32:19] half a million dollars for each year, and looking to make a community land trust of that. And I am [00:32:26] available to the city manager and others for any ideas on the administration and the construction [00:32:31] of this program. Thank you. Thank you. Anyone else? Seeing no one else come forward, bring it [00:32:39] back to council. A couple questions. First being that what's being presented to us is for us to [00:32:48] approve a resolution identifying these projects and stating in the resolution that we find [00:32:56] to meet the requirements of the Act, which still hasn't made its final rulings. [00:33:07] So I'm not sure. When I look at the projects, the only one that I'm trying to identify from what was [00:33:19] described as the intent of the Act and how it fits relates to the, I think, response from the [00:33:28] federal government that they won't approve a project unless it meets one of the needs. So [00:33:34] I'm not in any way against paying the extra $350,000 for the steel. My question is, is this [00:33:41] fund, how do we identify that it meets the requirements of the Act? Because I'm not sure [00:33:52] what you would categorize that under. Mr. Driscoll? [00:33:59] Can you want to try to address it? We have, in recent weeks, spent a lot of time talking [00:34:09] to contractors and comparing bid prices on materials and labor, both pre-COVID and post-COVID, [00:34:20] and we are using that as a basis to determine the elevation. And the contractors that we are [00:34:30] working with are also willing to sign sworn statements indicating that the elevated prices [00:34:38] are due to COVID-related conditions. And we are going to use that to substantiate [00:34:47] the price increases for metals, for woods, for labor, [00:34:56] as it relates to our construction projects. Actually, [00:35:04] it is, the fact is, it's much more than that. We're only asking for $350,000. [00:35:11] Mr. Alvin and I were both in a presentation on the ARA, and they had a... [00:35:17] I got there, too. [00:35:19] Okay, and Chopper. The speakers were making a point that while it is key that we get all of [00:35:32] the initial paperwork completed and into the state as quickly as possible, [00:35:40] we're not necessarily wed to specific items, so long as when we do the items, they are [00:35:51] within the guidelines of the program. And as Councilman Altman pointed out, [00:35:58] they've released some preliminary rules, but they're still putting guidance out at this point. [00:36:04] They are. [00:36:07] And to prove, my question is, are we approving set numbers of items that are [00:36:14] going to happen real fast? I mean, there's going to be things that come down that don't give us two [00:36:28] weeks to have our next meeting. So are we approving basically for you to go ahead with these [00:36:35] items, but can we actually move the money at some other point? [00:36:38] I will be proceeding with caution. We continue to monitor the decisions or the rules, I should say, [00:36:53] as they're promulgated by the Department of Treasury. And the city attorney will advise me [00:37:01] when a change needs to be made, and we will come back before you when it's appropriate to do so. [00:37:09] I just, from what I gather too, they didn't have the answers. [00:37:13] No. [00:37:13] They didn't have the answers themselves. But I just say, I don't want to get stuck behind the [00:37:18] eight ball because we are waiting two weeks for a meeting and all of a sudden the date comes. [00:37:24] We won't, but we believe everything that we're proposing to you this evening is consistent [00:37:30] with the rules that have been set forth to date. [00:37:34] And if we want to change the dollars a little bit, would that be a problem down the road? [00:37:39] To a different category? I mean, within the same... [00:37:45] If it hasn't been obligated or appropriated otherwise. [00:37:56] If I may add, if approved tonight, we will incorporate this into the budget being proposed [00:38:02] to you at the public hearing. And so at that point, once adopted, it would follow [00:38:08] the normal process for approving projects, and we would have to go through the normal process. [00:38:15] Yeah, okay. So as long as it's still in those, I don't know, eight categories, [00:38:19] and we move the money around a little bit, because we see somewhere we really want to go that way. [00:38:24] Councilman Altman? [00:38:25] Right. So the comment that it becomes a budget item and we follow the budget rules is there. [00:38:29] I think that the resolution itself, and I don't want to get hung up on that, but [00:38:35] if I had the opportunity to suggest any language change at all, I would put something in as we [00:38:41] understand it or whatever, because you're asking me to make a comment that I understand that this [00:38:46] meets all of those requirements. And from what you described in the general terms, I don't see [00:38:52] the use of money for projects to be accepted, even if it's allowable, even if it's because of the [00:38:59] COVID. So because of the COVID was affected to the revenue side to give us those $2 million. [00:39:07] But I don't want to belabor that point, because I have a couple of questions to ask related to the [00:39:12] projects and the two-year cycle. So looking at the two big ones, the stormwater and the septic [00:39:21] to sewer projects, and showing that you're going to use that money in year two, my sense is [00:39:28] that it says it's partially funded. I understand and I'm grateful to understand that the city [00:39:34] manager is also planning to apply for more grants and to try to help and, you know, leverage this [00:39:40] money and particularly the sewer funds the state is offering and the stormwater funds or the [00:39:46] resilience funds. And I think that's great. I know that in those types of projects and the [00:39:52] American Rescue Plan allows for some of that to incorporate the planning. So if we could shift [00:40:00] some money for planning over into the, then it doesn't fall on the Public Works Department to [00:40:09] plan and hopefully the partial funding comes from matches and doesn't, because these projects are [00:40:17] not, as I understand it, part of what was provided to us in the Capital Improvement Plan. So to the [00:40:23] degree we can do some money in those categories to foster the professional development of this [00:40:29] plan, I think particularly as they affect the downtown stormwater or the potential annexation [00:40:35] of land, there's going to have to be some money spent to try to identify that project and prepare [00:40:40] for it. So Robert always gives us a plan that shows a year. Included in that is land acquisition, [00:40:49] so if we needed to pick up a piece of property. So again, to go back to Chopra's comment, a [00:40:58] budget adjustment that moved a little from one category because we need to do it this year versus, [00:41:04] for example, the downtown area improvements, maybe that whole, or the business assistance programs [00:41:13] with $600,000, that's going to require a lot of commitment and from some of the businesses, if [00:41:20] you're going to assist them, we could find that we only have 200,000 applications or whatever and we [00:41:28] have those funds available. So identifying the projects is great. The idea that it's going to [00:41:35] be exclusive I think would cut out the new two city councilmen who come here next year if they [00:41:40] want to review and modify. So I would say when you have a plan, you want the manager to be able to [00:41:47] implement the plan and not have you change the plan all the time. So I appreciate what you're [00:41:51] putting before us. But again, it's possible as numbers change, whatever they might be, [00:42:03] whether it's the utility assistance program which is smaller, how much of that, I don't know if [00:42:07] you've identified the $50,000 that you're going to give out or how it's going to be given out, but [00:42:14] if you have a plan, you can show us regularly or quarterly or every six months how it's going. [00:42:19] And so that's my request. I guess if the rest of you all agree with that approach, [00:42:26] I don't have any problem approving it, but I'd love to see a little bit more money for planning [00:42:31] on those big projects than to just push them off in a year. So councilman, I'm trying to understand [00:42:38] exactly what you're looking to do. Are you looking to move money from one year, you know, swap [00:42:43] monies around from year one to year two on some of these projects? Or are you looking to select [00:42:48] some other expenses to use the money for? No, no. I think the projects are good that [00:42:53] we're focused on. I'm not trying to add new projects. I'm only saying that when you get [00:42:57] two more members of council next year, you're going to have only one of you up here is going [00:43:01] to be required for it to cause any change of direction. And cities, it's good to have a plan [00:43:07] to say we're sticking to it. But when you get three votes, that can probably do about anything. [00:43:12] I'm not sure that we're committing to the federal government that we're going to spend this. We're [00:43:16] just telling ourselves, if I'm not mistaken, that we've agreed that they're to protect ourselves [00:43:21] legally to say we found them to be legal. And that's why I'm saying subject to any future [00:43:30] regulation that might come out, obviously, you'd have to come back and say, hey, [00:43:34] we found out we can't do that. So I'm just making myself feel good about voting for this. [00:43:40] And these funds will come from the federal government. So they will fall under [00:43:44] single audit grant requirements. And we will get audited on these funds. So there are certain [00:43:50] reporting requirements and compliance requirements that we have to follow. And so we do have to [00:43:56] establish how we're going to spend the money. And that's what this was going to accomplish. [00:44:01] I also want to point out year one and year two references the distributions that we're going [00:44:07] to receive. So year one would be next fiscal year. We're going to receive half. And then fiscal year [00:44:13] 22-23 would be year two. That doesn't necessarily mean we have to spend all of that money in those [00:44:18] years. We actually have until 2026 to spend it all. So if I'm following you, Councilman Altman, [00:44:30] the stormwater projects, those big projects that are dedicated to year two's distribution, [00:44:39] they may get started in fiscal year 22-23, but they may go out to the next fiscal year. [00:44:45] No, I think they need to get started now because the stormwater improvement project needs to be [00:44:50] identified if it's part of a master plan so that we can get out to the private sector to say, hey, [00:44:57] we've got Kaiser University. We've got the [00:45:00] We've got this waterfront that we've bought, and we have a master plan that tells us to [00:45:06] do some things. [00:45:07] So we've got to develop that master plan, and I think that we should be working on that [00:45:12] now. [00:45:13] If what you're saying is that you don't even want to, that we shouldn't think about that [00:45:16] project or start it for a year, I think that is what I'm saying. [00:45:20] There's no reason, since we always have a two-year segment, just because we can spend [00:45:25] it three years out, doesn't mean we can't start those projects, have those discussions. [00:45:30] Right. [00:45:31] And we can start it using other funding. [00:45:34] It doesn't have to be, I mean, this just identifies the American Rescue funds that we're going [00:45:39] to spend on that project in year two, but if you see fit, then we can allocate some [00:45:46] money from other funds or even from these funds to start. [00:45:49] I would just make a, to respond to Councilman Peters, I would say take some money at your [00:45:56] own, what you would ask. [00:45:59] I mean, this is how you do public improvement projects, is you put some money up front. [00:46:04] I would say that we could look at some of the business assistance programs, for example, [00:46:10] and move $150,000 into the second year. [00:46:15] I don't know how, if those are all prepped and ready to go. [00:46:19] We've got another $928,000 in downtown area improvements of our own as well. [00:46:24] If you know something, I don't, that's good, but I would like to see us begin the planning [00:46:30] strategy and be prepared to at least get started on those projects. [00:46:36] Thank you. [00:46:37] Mr. Murphy? [00:46:38] Is there any kind of preliminary approval that the government gives us for these things [00:46:43] that we submit? [00:46:44] No. [00:46:45] So we're just kind of, we're hoping that it falls in that category and then we spend [00:46:50] the money. [00:46:51] Yeah, you missed a really good explanation of that at the conference, which is basically [00:46:58] the IRS is in the process of releasing out FAQs and general guidance, but you won't know [00:47:07] for sure that it is approved until after you've done it and submitted the report. [00:47:14] They did FA, every letter of the alphabet, didn't they? [00:47:19] Yeah, a big chunk of change that we're responsible for. [00:47:22] We're being very conservative in the projects, the programs, and the activities to ensure [00:47:30] that we are proposing things that are consistent with the directives that they have released. [00:47:37] Oh, and I feel comfortable with all the projects. [00:47:41] I know when you look to see what your actual increases are, you've got letters from contractors, [00:47:46] I'm sure, but at the same time, lumber was going at $1,600 per foot and it is now down [00:47:57] to $483 per foot. [00:48:01] So it's back lower than it has been for a year. [00:48:04] But they still have inventory to get rid of. [00:48:07] Well, that's here and there if you buy it from the mill, which you're not going to buy [00:48:13] it from Home Depot. [00:48:15] But anyway, I would ask if we could shift some money because I don't want to see us [00:48:21] wait for a year to begin to do those kinds of designs and projects, especially if we're [00:48:26] going to put requests in for grants, it's going to take some work to figure out what [00:48:35] it is we're doing or what we're asking to do. [00:48:40] Okay. [00:48:41] Mr. Peters, any thoughts? [00:48:42] Yeah. [00:48:43] I think if I just may express what my thoughts are here, we're basically trying to allocate [00:48:52] some money in general categories, all right? [00:48:55] And sure, we all want to get them started as quickly as we can. [00:48:58] We've got to get the paperwork in order to get the funds to begin with, but we do have [00:49:03] some leeway and depending on what the project is, we want to make sure it's well-planned [00:49:08] whether we start it tomorrow or next year, but we have a certain period of time. [00:49:13] So I think that, you know, from what I've seen thus far, the city does a great job in [00:49:19] planning and preparing these various projects. [00:49:22] I don't think we'll do anything differently with these as well. [00:49:26] So I think in dust, we're just, we're approving a general idea of how these funds, we want [00:49:29] to allocate these funds, these things, and we're going to work out the details as quickly [00:49:34] as we can. [00:49:35] Is that fair enough? [00:49:36] Am I summarizing that correct? [00:49:39] We will identify the funding necessary to implement all the programs and all the projects [00:49:48] to include the concept that Councilman Altman has suggested as well. [00:49:58] Do you need a move for approval? [00:49:59] We do need a motion. [00:50:00] I make a motion. [00:50:01] Do we have a second? [00:50:02] Second. [00:50:03] To the maker? [00:50:04] Nothing more. [00:50:05] To the second? [00:50:06] Mr. Altman? [00:50:07] Mr. Peters? [00:50:10] In that case, yeah, I think this will be a couple work sessions. [00:50:17] I was going to say work in progress, but it's, nothing that we're doing tonight is going [00:50:23] to put anything in absolute stone because until that guidance is finalized, it's really [00:50:32] not going to be. [00:50:33] I do like some of the ideas George came up with, you know, looking at the money there [00:50:38] and that community land trust. [00:50:40] I would like to sit down sometime with you and learn more about it because we do have [00:50:47] some issues with affordable housing that it would be nice to address, whether from this [00:50:52] bucket of money or some other bucket down the road, trying to do something to improve [00:50:59] the housing stock. [00:51:01] But I think this is a good start. [00:51:03] So Ms. Mance, will this give you everything you need to send all the paperwork that the [00:51:09] state is waiting for? [00:51:11] It gives me everything I need for now, Mr. Mayor. [00:51:13] Thank you. [00:51:14] Okay. [00:51:15] My understanding from the conference was that once that is deemed complete at the State [00:51:22] Department of whatever it is, that gets the paperwork from us, that within eight or ten [00:51:30] days that will get transmitted over to the finance guys and they will cut a rather large [00:51:37] check for us. [00:51:38] We are not certain at this point, they have already asked for an extension of 30 days. [00:51:45] This is as of last week what their representative was telling us. [00:51:49] I hope that is accurate. [00:51:51] And we definitely want to get it in as quickly as possible because the sooner it is in, the [00:51:56] sooner we will see the money. [00:51:58] Mr. Mayor, just a clarification, I don't believe that this is a requirement for you to get [00:52:03] the money. [00:52:04] No, it is not. [00:52:05] I just wanted to make that clear. [00:52:08] Having a resolution, I believe, is, even though the allocation perhaps not. [00:52:13] I don't believe that we are getting the money. [00:52:17] They haven't officially come out with those requirements, but based on our research with [00:52:22] other states, and some states are ahead of the state of Florida with being proactive [00:52:29] in setting guidelines, they have required resolutions, and so we are being proactive [00:52:35] in that sense in getting this done, but it is not a requirement so far by the state. [00:52:40] But they have, I think what you are referring to is a funding agreement, so that is what [00:52:45] we are waiting on. [00:52:46] We have met all the requirements and done what we need to do to, in essence, let them [00:52:52] know that we are ready to receive the funds, and so we are just waiting on them to send [00:52:56] that funding agreement, which will get signed and sent back to them as soon as we receive [00:53:02] it. [00:53:03] Yes, we definitely need to turn that around as quickly as possible once it is here. [00:53:08] Any further discussion on the motion? [00:53:10] Hearing none, all those in favor, please signify by saying aye.

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