First readings on multifamily design guidelines (Ordinance 2021-2233) and a special exception for Lighthouse Baptist Church at 6016 Delaware Avenue (Ordinance 2021-2232).
19 items on the agenda · 10 decisions recorded
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Pledge of Allegiance
Pledge of Allegiance and a moment of silence in honor of servicemen and women.
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[00:00:21] I'd like to ask you all to please stand and join me in the Pledge of Allegiance and remain [00:00:22] standing for a moment of silence in honor of our servicemen and women at home and abroad. [00:00:28] I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for [00:00:34] which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
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Moment of Silence
Procedural moment of silence.
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[00:00:49] Thank you. [00:00:50] You may be seated.
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Approval of May 18, 2021 Work Session and Regular Meeting Minutes
approvedCouncil approved the minutes from the May 18, 2021 work session and regular meeting.
- motion:Approve the May 18, 2021 work session and regular meeting minutes. (passed)
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[00:00:52] Next item on the agenda is the approval of the May 18th work session and regular meeting [00:00:57] minutes. [00:00:58] Move we approve. [00:00:59] Second. [00:01:00] Any discussion? [00:01:01] Hearing none, all those in favor, please signify by saying aye. [00:01:05] Aye. [00:01:06] Opposed, like sign.
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Library Advisory Board Minutes - March 2021
on consentProcedural transition to the consent agenda; brief tail of prior discussion about park access and alley improvements.
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[00:18:38] as access to the park, and maybe find our way to get them [00:18:41] in shape because we could certainly put shelves, [00:18:45] do some compaction, do something to make the alleys work, [00:18:50] and I think that would be my answer. [00:18:54] Thank you, gentlemen. [00:18:56] Next is the consent agenda. [00:18:59] Mayor Marlow?
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Parks and Recreation Advisory Board Minutes - April 2021
on consentProcedural acceptance of the Parks and Recreation Advisory Board minutes from April 2021. Brief discussion referenced improving park access, possibly through adding shells, compaction, or similar work to make alleys functional.
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[00:18:38] as access to the park, and maybe find our way to get them [00:18:41] in shape because we could certainly put shelves, [00:18:45] do some compaction, do something to make the alleys work, [00:18:50] and I think that would be my answer. [00:18:54] Thank you, gentlemen. [00:18:56] Next is the consent agenda. [00:18:59] Mayor Marlow?
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Police Pension Board Minutes - February and April 2021
on consentPolice Pension Board minutes from February and April 2021 were included on the consent agenda.
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[00:18:38] as access to the park, and maybe find our way to get them [00:18:41] in shape because we could certainly put shelves, [00:18:45] do some compaction, do something to make the alleys work, [00:18:50] and I think that would be my answer. [00:18:54] Thank you, gentlemen. [00:18:56] Next is the consent agenda. [00:18:59] Mayor Marlow?
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Purchases/Payments for City Council Approval
on consentProcedural transition from prior discussion about park access and alley improvements into the consent agenda.
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[00:18:38] as access to the park, and maybe find our way to get them [00:18:41] in shape because we could certainly put shelves, [00:18:45] do some compaction, do something to make the alleys work, [00:18:50] and I think that would be my answer. [00:18:54] Thank you, gentlemen. [00:18:56] Next is the consent agenda. [00:18:59] Mayor Marlow?
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First Reading, Ordinance No. 2021-2232: Special Exception for 6016 Delaware Avenue
discussedFirst reading of Ordinance 2021-2232, a special exception to allow Lighthouse Baptist Church to operate within the R3 zoning district at 6016 Delaware Avenue (former American Finnish Club site). Staff and DRC recommended approval contingent on bringing the parking lot and landscaping up to current city standards. The item also included a lengthy preceding presentation from Main Street regarding an upcoming Florida Main Street/Florida Trust joint conference July 21-24.
Ord. Ordinance No. 2021-2232
- direction:Council heard first reading of Ordinance 2021-2232 for a special exception to allow a church at 6016 Delaware Avenue, with staff/DRC recommending approval contingent on parking lot and landscaping improvements. (none)
- motion:Motion to approve the consent agenda. (passed)
6016 Delaware AvenueAmerican Finnish ClubCleveland CavaliersCody River Brewing CompanyFlorida Main StreetFlorida TrustHaciendaLighthouse Baptist ChurchMountaineerQuality InnRichey Suncoast TheaterSchwetmanWay TrimBarrettBrad CorneliusBrianCouncilman DavisCouncilman PetersDebbie ManzJudy MurphyLeBron JamesMelissa SmithPatrickRepresentative MarianoDRC review May 6Florida Main Street / Florida Trust Annual Conference July 21-24Low-medium density future land use classificationOrdinance No. 2021-2232Parking garage completion (end of June)R3 zoning districtSection 5.02 special exception standards▶ Jump to 19:00 in the videoShow transcriptHide transcript
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[00:19:00] Yes. If I may, I wanted to remind City Manager Manz [00:19:03] about Ms. Murphy's presentation. [00:19:08] That would be a great time, Mr. Mayor, if you'd allow me [00:19:11] to introduce Ms. Murphy for an introduction [00:19:18] from the Main Street Board of their upcoming conference. [00:19:23] That would have been nice on the agenda. [00:19:25] I thought it was. [00:19:27] I'm sorry. [00:19:28] No, it's not. [00:19:28] Sorry about that. [00:19:30] But that's welcome. [00:19:31] Well, thank you. [00:19:32] Thank you. [00:19:33] And okay, I was going to say, before I go into the conference [00:19:37] that we have, Patrick wanted to make a slight announcement [00:19:41] for everyone. [00:19:42] Yes. I wanted to let everyone know that we came [00:19:45] to an agreement with a new executive director, [00:19:47] and we've hired Melissa Smith, and we're very excited. [00:19:51] She has great community involvement. [00:19:53] She's very excited to be on board, has a lot [00:19:56] of experience with nonprofits, and before she moved [00:20:00] to New Port Richey, she lived in Cleveland and worked [00:20:02] with a few people like the Cleveland Cavaliers [00:20:05] and LeBron James and was PR for him. [00:20:08] So I think that she's got a nice pedigree [00:20:11] that was just sort of hidden, and we're going [00:20:13] to very much enjoy her leadership. [00:20:16] So I wanted to let the council know, [00:20:18] and on to our exciting news about the conference. [00:20:24] Thank you. [00:20:25] That just came out today, so I wanted everyone [00:20:27] to hear that right up front. [00:20:29] But thank you for having me here. [00:20:31] I want to announce I did not have time [00:20:33] to put a slideshow together, so I did pass out packets for you [00:20:37] so you would have a little bit of information for those [00:20:40] that are in the audience. [00:20:41] The Florida Main Street and the Florida Trust are getting [00:20:45] together this year and finally having an annual conference. [00:20:49] They've never had a joint annual conference. [00:20:50] We were supposed to do it last year, [00:20:52] but COVID kind of destroyed that. [00:20:55] So this year we are joining together. [00:20:57] We're expecting about 300 attendees into downtown [00:21:01] over July 21st through the 24th. [00:21:05] Actually, we have some people starting [00:21:06] on July 19th they'll be here. [00:21:09] So far we have 73 attendees already signed [00:21:11] up with preregistration. [00:21:14] And the first round of room blocks [00:21:17] at Quality Inn have been taken up, so I have to call them [00:21:19] to get another round. [00:21:21] So that's phenomenal news. [00:21:23] Councilman Davis got us on the tourism agenda, [00:21:26] and so Patrick and I went over and gave a presentation. [00:21:30] And they have granted us up to $3,000 based on the heads [00:21:33] and beds that we do. [00:21:35] For anyone that doesn't know, for every night of stay [00:21:38] in a hotel room, they can give you up to $5 for that room. [00:21:43] So that's going to be some nice dollars. [00:21:45] What else is happening? [00:21:46] If you look at your agenda, for those in the audience, [00:21:51] July 20th we will have our early birds coming in. [00:21:55] We expect to have about 100 people come in the first night. [00:21:58] And we've done a couple events for them. [00:22:01] We're going to have Cody River Brewing Company open up, [00:22:03] and then we have a ghost tour happening. [00:22:06] And if you look through the rest of the week, [00:22:08] from July 21st, 8.15 in the morning, we're going to start [00:22:13] out at Peace Hall, and then we'll do some [00:22:16] welcoming remarks. [00:22:17] The Ritchie Suncoast Theater has been wonderful, [00:22:20] and so that we can move their children over to Peace Hall [00:22:24] and go in for our keynote address and welcoming. [00:22:27] So that's very wonderful. [00:22:29] And then we will go down to Schwetman. [00:22:31] The school board has been kind enough to open Schwetman up [00:22:35] and delay their move. [00:22:36] I don't know if you know, but they're moving [00:22:37] out of that building, but they're delaying it [00:22:39] so that we can use their AV. [00:22:41] So everyone in the community has been phenomenal. [00:22:45] And from our perspective, because our job as Main Street is [00:22:48] to bring people into downtown, we are utilizing all [00:22:53] of the different businesses. [00:22:55] So for coffee one day, we're going to go to Mountaineer [00:22:58] and buy their coffee and have [00:23:00] that available for our coffee clatch. [00:23:02] Then another day we'll go down to the little bakery. [00:23:05] But we're trying to get everyone involved [00:23:08] and not use someone twice until we have used one [00:23:11] of the restaurants or businesses downtown. [00:23:13] So as you see, we've made it so that even on Saturday, [00:23:19] if they stay, they can pay for a Stilt House tour just to try [00:23:24] and keep people here. [00:23:26] And I'll tell you, they're very excited. [00:23:28] The most exciting thing, though, is the ghost tours, [00:23:30] just so you know, if you ever want to have a party, [00:23:32] people really love those. [00:23:34] And the rest of your packet is just kind of information as to, [00:23:38] because of course, we're going to be getting sponsorships [00:23:41] from other outside businesses, and I wanted you to see the type [00:23:44] of sponsors that this group brings into a city. [00:23:48] So that's why I put the rest of that packet together. [00:23:51] Early Bird cost for this is $1.75 a person. [00:23:56] After that, it's $2.50. [00:23:58] But for city officials and government employees, [00:23:59] it's only $75, and you can attend any of the meetings. [00:24:04] And there's some really great meetings to look over. [00:24:08] Another thank you to the museum. [00:24:10] Brian will be doing some of our tours [00:24:13] because the Florida Trust is interested [00:24:16] in historic preservation. [00:24:18] So he's going to take them around to some of the buildings [00:24:20] and show what we have here in our city and do a sacred tour. [00:24:26] That's about it. [00:24:27] I do say we're bringing in a parklet vendor, [00:24:30] going to set that up, and then there's another lighting vendor [00:24:32] that wanted to set up at the Hacienda. [00:24:34] They're going to work with them to show some type [00:24:36] of city lighting, I don't know, for a business. [00:24:41] And I do have some conversation about the electric vehicles. [00:24:47] I am sorry that I did not get my second proposal in yet, [00:24:51] but I've asked for trolleys, limos, and golf carts [00:24:55] in one package to see what it costs. [00:24:57] Our first one came out at $6,000, so we'll see [00:25:00] if this other company is any better. [00:25:03] But it would be kind of cool to get a variety of vehicles [00:25:05] in for this to show what it does, because my idea is [00:25:10] that the city will be able [00:25:11] to use them while we're in meetings. [00:25:14] Any questions? [00:25:16] I know I talk very fast, but I have a lot. [00:25:18] I've been doing this for a lot. [00:25:20] I'm really excited that we have an executive director. [00:25:22] This certainly looks very exciting. [00:25:28] Judy, if you'll sign me up to attend some of the sessions, [00:25:31] I think that it does sound like it's going to be a lot of fun. [00:25:34] And congratulations to both you and to Ms. Smith [00:25:37] on making that arrangement as well. [00:25:40] Yes, yes. [00:25:42] And we do have Representative Mariano is coming in, [00:25:46] at least for the Young Professionals Dinner, [00:25:48] and maybe the State, the Secretary Dinner. [00:25:51] So hopefully some of you will be able to pop in and out [00:25:54] since we have them. [00:25:55] I mean, all day long we'll be here. [00:25:57] Okay. [00:25:58] Mr. Mayor, I will not be able to attend because it's the one week [00:26:03] that my fiancee has off for a vacation. [00:26:06] So, she's, I know she loves Newport, but I think it will [00:26:15] help your conference to go smoother [00:26:16] because I have a tendency to say something generally [00:26:19] when I'm in a meeting. [00:26:20] I don't know if my colleagues might agree with me. [00:26:21] Yeah, we get a little cardboard face or. [00:26:23] But, yeah, congratulations for all that. [00:26:25] And I know we brought it up a while back, and just this was, [00:26:30] a comment over to the City Manager. [00:26:32] I know I had supported us making sure that we did something [00:26:37] as a city to participate and welcome, [00:26:39] whether it's assisting you with any of your transportation [00:26:42] or if there's some evening. [00:26:45] I know one of those nights that people are staying in town, [00:26:48] if there's anything that we can do [00:26:50] to help make the city more active, hopefully, [00:26:53] if it requires action, we'll hear about it before the time. [00:26:57] Yes, Ms. Manson, I'll be meeting again to go over. [00:27:00] Yeah, but we want to make sure it's successful, [00:27:02] and as you look, so does the city look. [00:27:05] And this is our chance for folks around the state and vendors [00:27:07] to get interested in us, so. [00:27:09] Yeah, we're very excited. [00:27:10] Very, very excited. [00:27:12] Is there anything specific that you need the city to help with, [00:27:15] other than it's a smooth process? [00:27:17] We have had a smooth process this whole time. [00:27:21] No, I mean, when we get the next proposal [00:27:27] in for the electric stuff, I can send that over and meet [00:27:31] with you guys just to talk about what that looks like. [00:27:33] That's going to be our biggest expense, [00:27:36] and I know we've gotten one sponsorship [00:27:37] for $1,000 toward that. [00:27:40] But so it might be that we just go out and look [00:27:42] for individual sponsorships to try and cover those costs. [00:27:45] Because we'll match. [00:27:47] All right, I like that. [00:27:50] Yes, because that's really, you know, we just don't want [00:27:53] to ask the businesses for anything else. [00:27:57] You know, they've had COVID, so we're trying to. [00:27:59] So to that point, the park and the bandshell, [00:28:04] I know you're doing some stuff around the Hacienda one night. [00:28:07] I know we've had some, we've been slow to get out [00:28:10] and do any entertaining, and most of the nightlife happens [00:28:14] on Friday, Saturday, Sunday. [00:28:15] So to the degree, I think the city manager hopefully will help [00:28:19] to make it fun. [00:28:21] Well, yes, because the Hacienda is not even going to be open [00:28:25] for us to be in their grass area. [00:28:27] We're going to have to take the Hacienda party [00:28:30] out to the bandstand, so. [00:28:31] Surprise. [00:28:32] That's right. [00:28:32] We got this. [00:28:34] We will make that happen. [00:28:38] I'm taking my harmonica up to the mountains, [00:28:40] so I won't be able to play. [00:28:43] Well, me and Councilman Peters will stand in your place [00:28:45] and play the harmonica. [00:28:48] Yeah, you don't want me to sing or dance or play instruments. [00:28:50] Did you, you know, that coincides [00:28:54] with our scallop season. [00:28:55] That might be something you could tie into this to, you know, [00:28:58] encourage them to stay, maybe. [00:29:00] And also to get their hotel rooms in time, right? [00:29:04] Right. That's how we're trying to get them [00:29:05] to do early registration, because I can't guarantee boats. [00:29:10] I can guarantee a couple of the boats [00:29:11] that don't go out for scalloping. [00:29:13] But yes, I have informed them all [00:29:16] that we will be in scallop season. [00:29:17] It's going to be crazy around here. [00:29:21] Ms. Manz, if Barrett may know the answer, [00:29:24] we're expecting the parking garage [00:29:26] to be finished well in advance of this. [00:29:29] Yes, we are. [00:29:30] It is the end of June [00:29:32] that the parking structure will be completed. [00:29:34] Am I correct that there will be charging facilities [00:29:36] in the garage? [00:29:37] Yes, you're correct. [00:29:38] And that information probably needs to be communicated [00:29:42] to the Main Street people so they can let folks [00:29:46] who are coming know that they've got some options [00:29:48] to get their cars charged while they're in their meetings. [00:29:53] When will the parking lot behind, like the social, be done? [00:29:57] We have a, I know we're incentivizing. [00:30:00] but not before yeah that's scheduled to be done in August I think if we're able [00:30:09] to help with some of the transportation stuff of food parking because obviously [00:30:12] there's no parking behind there so well because right now we're using the [00:30:16] parking lot across from Schwetman right since the most of its down there so it's [00:30:20] going to be getting them from here to downtown for lunches and that kind of [00:30:25] thing and getting them back okay yeah well good good luck thanks [00:30:31] sounds exciting yes okay back to the consent agenda do we have a motion in a [00:30:40] second to approve the consent agenda I move we approve second all those in [00:30:47] favor please signify by saying aye aye opposed like sign motion passes next is [00:30:53] first reading ordinance 2021-2232 this is ordinance number 2021-2232 an [00:31:00] ordinance of the city of New Port Richey Florida providing for approval of a [00:31:03] special exception for a church to be allowed within the r3 zoning district [00:31:07] and low-medium density future land use classification for a property located at [00:31:12] 6016 Delaware Avenue as more particularly described herein providing [00:31:17] for conditions of approval providing for conflict severability and an effective [00:31:21] date mr. mayor members of the City Council the property in question is [00:31:27] located at the southeast corner of Delaware and Madison streets currently [00:31:34] there is a five thousand one hundred and forty nine square foot building located [00:31:40] on the property which is less than one acre in size it was most formerly used [00:31:46] by the American Finnish Club which has become a non-conforming zoning use [00:31:53] because it was abandoned for a period in excess of 12 months the property as [00:32:00] indicated by the city attorney is zoned R3 and any new use of the property must [00:32:09] be developed in conformance with the zoning of the property the current [00:32:15] zoning also as indicated by the city attorney is R3 the applicants for this [00:32:25] special exception use are the Lighthouse Baptist Church along with their realtor [00:32:33] and they have a current congregation of 96 members their expectation is that [00:32:43] they would have 60 members attending services on Sunday and two weekday [00:32:51] morning services the DRC reviewed the applicants request at a regularly [00:32:59] scheduled meeting on May 6 and they recommended that the application be [00:33:07] considered favorably contingent on two requirements one that the parking lot be [00:33:14] developed and two that the parking lot landscaping be developed the [00:33:21] recommendation also would be based on certain criteria and mr. Brad Cornelius [00:33:31] the city's planning consultant I'm sure wants to talk about the criteria by which [00:33:37] the application was considered so that you can further consider and deliberate [00:33:44] on this matter and determine whether or not you feel it's appropriate to issue [00:33:49] and and conduct your first conduct your first reading on the special exception [00:33:57] permit thank you mr. Cornelius thank you for the record my name is Brad Cornelius [00:34:03] with Way Trim and I serve as the city's contracted planner and Ms. Mann did a [00:34:08] fantastic job giving you the background and as she said I'll go through the [00:34:11] standards and the requirements for a special exception so again just real [00:34:16] quickly as Ms. Mann said this property is zoned R3 as you all know [00:34:20] that's a residential zoning district however the residential zoning district [00:34:24] does allow through a special exception approval by the City Council uses such [00:34:30] as places of worship churches as well as bed and breakfasts so there are other [00:34:33] uses that are allowed within a residential zoning this zoning district [00:34:37] subject to your approval so that's why it's before you this evening so within [00:34:42] your code in section 5.02 it has the standards for a special exception that [00:34:46] we have to evaluate this request for and there are seven of those standards and [00:34:52] I'll go through them fairly quickly because they are pretty straightforward [00:34:55] so the first is we have to look is this exception being requested is it allowed [00:35:00] within the zoning district and yes it is this requested use as a church is it [00:35:04] allowed as a special exception within that district so it does meet that first [00:35:08] criteria and that's just a black and white criteria the next is will the [00:35:12] grant is the granting of the exception will not adversely affect the public [00:35:15] health safety or welfare of the community when we looked at this from [00:35:20] the staff level in the DRC level we did see it to be compatible with that [00:35:23] surrounding area as you all know around this property it is residential in [00:35:28] development makes a single-family and duplex and triplexes on there but it's [00:35:32] also located on Madison Avenue which is a major roadway here in the city as we [00:35:36] heard earlier that has large which a relatively high amount of traffic on it [00:35:40] so it's not within the middle of a neighborhood but it's actually on a [00:35:43] major road relatively major road here in the city so we do not think that the use [00:35:49] of this property as a church really has a significant impact on the surrounding [00:35:54] residential area because it is a church it's a low-impact type of use it's a [00:35:59] relatively small congregation a small operation and in our opinion looking at [00:36:04] it it's not that dissimilar from the use that was previously there with the [00:36:08] Finnish American Club as a social club so there is some some relationship there [00:36:12] with that so from the staff perspective look at we did find it to be compliant [00:36:16] or consistent with the area around it the next standard is the granting is [00:36:22] consistent with the intent of the zoning district again we find that it is [00:36:26] consistent your staff does in DRC because a place of worship a church is [00:36:31] allowed there if it's granted the special exception again it's subject to [00:36:34] your approval so it is consistent with the intent through the special exception [00:36:40] the next standard is the requirements of the district in which they used to be [00:36:44] located shall be complied with as Miss Mann said if this would be approved the [00:36:49] conditions are they'll have to bring the parking up to current standard for [00:36:53] their use as well as the current design standards for the parking lot because [00:36:56] the lot that's there now the stripes are gone it's not meeting current [00:37:00] standards it also have to bring brought up to landscaping not only around the [00:37:04] parking lot but the buffering to the adjacent residential so it'll come up to [00:37:08] current city standard and also you know for the building part of it if it gets [00:37:13] to that point the building official and the fire marshal for the city they'll [00:37:17] also do the inspections to make sure the building meets all current codes and [00:37:20] requirements so yes it will be complied with all the required requirements of [00:37:26] the city if this were to be approved the next relates to traffic and it says will [00:37:30] excessive traffic excessive traffic will not be generated on residential streets [00:37:35] that's the standard we have to look at so again when we look at this request [00:37:39] the anticipated traffic being generated by this use is somewhere between 30 and [00:37:43] 40 cars on a Sunday with with their services as you all know churches are [00:37:49] not a traffic generator seven days a week you know like like an office would [00:37:54] or five days a week like an office would or a retail would it's very specific [00:37:58] times based on their operations based on what happens so it's it's one of these [00:38:03] things it's it's it's it's just it generates with their events but in the [00:38:07] number of potential trips here are relatively small again looking about 30 [00:38:12] to 40 on a Sunday and then they say on two days a week during the week about 10 [00:38:17] cars a day when we look at it compared to the overall traffic on Madison it's a [00:38:22] very small amount it's less than 1% of the existing traffic on Madison so we [00:38:27] don't see this having a significant impact on the existing traffic that's [00:38:31] out there because it is a relatively low impact in terms of the amount of traffic [00:38:34] that could be generated from this site so that was staff's finding here the next [00:38:41] is the proposed use will not have adversely affect the residential [00:38:44] character of existing neighborhoods as I said earlier when we look at this we [00:38:49] find that with appropriate buffering with you would coming bringing it to [00:38:52] standards we believe it is compatible with the area will not have an adverse [00:38:57] effect on the residential area again it's sitting on a major road it's [00:39:00] sitting on Madison it's not kind of tucked back in the middle of a [00:39:03] residential area it's on a major city road and also generally churches and [00:39:09] just the general planning paradigm of looking at communities they are [00:39:13] typically something that's encouraged as part of your community and it doesn't [00:39:17] matter what the church is what the place of worship is it doesn't that doesn't [00:39:19] play into it but it does provide a sense of character for the sense of community [00:39:24] and fries a central point for the community so it does tend to have [00:39:28] positive impacts within a community just from a general statement and standpoint [00:39:32] I will not say that in every case because we can't prejudge anything but [00:39:36] generally that's the way churches are looked at in terms of coming into a [00:39:40] residential area and the last standard is a vehicular parking or traffic [00:39:46] problem is not created we've already talked about the traffic in terms of the [00:39:51] parking because this won't be fixed seating this will be you know chairs the [00:39:55] code requires it based on the the size of the assembly area so right now that [00:40:00] the size of the assembly area is about 1,400 and square feet so based on on the [00:40:06] requirement of the code which is one space for 35 square feet in the [00:40:11] auditorium it would require 40 spaces on the property in terms of what's on there [00:40:17] now the existing paved area I don't believe all 40 could necessarily fit [00:40:21] there but there is sufficient room on that property to expand to accommodate [00:40:25] that additional parking that if it would be needed however if they reduce the [00:40:29] size of the assembly area that would also reduce the size of the required [00:40:32] parking so we think the parking can be appropriately provided on the site and [00:40:37] again as the condition says it would have to meet the city standard for [00:40:40] parking lots if it were to be expanded which includes the buffering around the [00:40:45] area so that's our analysis of the standards and again the development [00:40:49] review committee we did review this on May 6 and we didn't make the [00:40:52] recommendation of approval with those two conditions that miss man stated sir [00:40:56] in addition I'd like to indicate that we did receive an email object objection [00:41:04] and two letters of objection that were put at your place this evening okay [00:41:12] we'll open this up for public comment is the applicant here please you could give [00:41:22] us your name and address for the record please my name is John Fundacles I'm the [00:41:31] pastor of the Lighthouse Baptist Church I live at 2809 Featherstone Drive in [00:41:37] holiday Florida I would like to say that it's a it's an honor to be able to come [00:41:43] and join your city we were located in holiday we started a church about 18 [00:41:49] years ago and we've been located in that area and at our current location that we [00:41:54] just recently sold we we decided that we needed to move a little further north we [00:42:01] sold it primarily because our area that we were on was sitting right on 19 and [00:42:07] 19 keeps getting faster and faster and more and more cars and it's hard to [00:42:11] attract people also the area is becoming more commercial then it's just not [00:42:18] there for residential and inviting people in so we felt led to sell and [00:42:24] then we started looking for a property and we found this property sitting on [00:42:28] this corner that set back off the road and really had the atmosphere of being a [00:42:33] place of warmth a place that we can invite people to come and worship and we [00:42:37] could come and worship so that's what we were looking at when we ended up with [00:42:41] trying to secure this property to open a church we hope to be in the neighborhood [00:42:47] to be as the gentleman just testified that we're a place that people can come [00:42:51] they can worship they feel the the presence of God and feel peaceful there [00:42:56] and we can enjoy worshipping there we don't want to upset anybody I know there [00:43:02] was some letters that disapproved us coming in but we would try to show them [00:43:07] we would be good neighbors and we don't want to in any way affect their quality [00:43:12] of life in their neighborhoods at all we don't want to do that but we do think we [00:43:16] can bring a quality there too we are a Southern Baptist Church we belong to a [00:43:23] big conference of over 44,000 churches in our country and so we're well [00:43:31] established we can do all the modifications that you're asking for to [00:43:35] the grounds and to the building to meet all codes and we want to meet all codes [00:43:39] we want to be a good citizen plus we want to be safe and present you know a [00:43:44] good appearance on that property I don't have a lot of other things to say to you [00:43:51] and I don't want to take up a lot of your time but do you have any questions [00:43:54] about our church or anything that we're doing I can gladly answer them for you [00:43:58] any questions for the pastor oh I was gonna say in with the required stuff you [00:44:05] have to do for the parking and the landscape perimeter and the code stuff [00:44:10] is there any other additional upgrades that you're planning on doing I would [00:44:16] say cosmetic stuff sir inside the building is of course aged it's an older [00:44:20] building it'd be mostly cosmetic stuff to you know do some stuff to bring it up [00:44:26] so it has a different appearance when you go into it it's more of a hall that [00:44:30] catered to dances and so forth we'd like to change that atmosphere when you walk [00:44:34] in we'll take the ceiling ball down and stuff like that that would be the only [00:44:42] Southern Baptist Church I can think of that would happen yeah mostly it'll be [00:44:48] cosmetic stuff sir in that way this problem yeah I think well first of all [00:44:56] best wishes to you and your congregation [00:45:00] I know that it was suggested that there would be 40 vehicles there, so it doesn't sound [00:45:03] like it's a large congregation at this point. [00:45:06] But as I've looked at the building and imagined the use of that building for the community, [00:45:13] you know, we've got the need for maker spaces. [00:45:16] We've got the need for youth training. [00:45:18] It's right on the track between Gulf High School, Gulf Middle School, and then towards [00:45:25] our town. [00:45:26] And, you know, the demographics of that area are in need of support. [00:45:32] I'm sure that your church would do everything you could in the way of outreach to help and [00:45:36] support other folks. [00:45:38] But there's a large kitchen there. [00:45:40] It's like an industrial kitchen. [00:45:43] You say you would do cosmetic improvements. [00:45:46] I was imagining fish fries and different civic clubs keeping that property occupied and busy. [00:45:54] So the only disappointment that I can say is that to have that property, that very prominent [00:46:01] location in an area that's in need of community activity and youth services and training and [00:46:10] all those sorts of things, in my view, a boys and girls club or something along those lines [00:46:16] or a maker space to help people to be trained to do things would keep the property more [00:46:21] regularly active. [00:46:23] So the hesitation I have is just to say our city is becoming so popular and there's so [00:46:30] much need and interest in things happening here that it sounds like you're identifying [00:46:40] a sort of a rural setting church with maybe, I don't know, 100 or some parishioners or [00:46:47] members of the congregation wouldn't have been the top thing on my list in an area that [00:46:54] needs so much attention. [00:46:56] Well, that's an excellent point you make, that there is a need in the area. [00:47:04] We're not just going to be dormant in the area, sir. [00:47:07] We're not just coming really to die in the area. [00:47:11] We're coming to do outreach. [00:47:13] We hope when we arrive there that we can reach children through some of our programs [00:47:18] and that we would also be able to reach more people to come in. [00:47:22] Now we're not talking large numbers of jumping in our congregation and so forth, but we do [00:47:31] want to reach out into the neighborhood and become good neighbors. [00:47:34] One of the reasons we want to be there is we want to know the people across the street. [00:47:38] We want to know the kids down the street and have opportunities. [00:47:41] We want to reach out for them. [00:47:43] I don't know if we can be as effective as you were talking about, but we will be reaching [00:47:49] out and we hope to start some programs to reach the children. [00:47:53] We did the demographics too, and if we did them correctly, within a circular mile of [00:47:59] that building, there's 11,000 people, and that's a lot of people. [00:48:05] We do want to reach into the community, but we'd have to do it at a pace that we can handle [00:48:11] the load of people coming in and being effective. [00:48:14] That's what we want to do. [00:48:15] Thank you. [00:48:16] If you could sit down at the front just in case somebody has a question as we go through [00:48:19] the discussion. [00:48:21] Anyone else wish to address council on this? [00:48:29] John Cain, 6041 Florida Avenue. [00:48:31] I have a question. [00:48:35] At one point, I was under the impression that we had bought that building, the city, no. [00:48:43] So the church will be purchasing the building. [00:48:46] Okay, so I'm kind of backed in because I thought there were some talks on that. [00:48:55] Not at this level. [00:48:56] Not at this level. [00:48:59] And my question being, besides that too, is, as I understand in the state of Florida, [00:49:07] so if you are an educational facility or if you're a church, what is the status as far [00:49:17] as taxes to the city? [00:49:19] You don't pay them. [00:49:20] You don't pay them. [00:49:21] Okay. [00:49:22] So, you know, this is kind of like a big decision, I think. [00:49:26] We have this kind of a nice meeting. [00:49:28] It's kind of mellow and we don't have a lot of people here. [00:49:31] But I'm kind of thinking that this may be something that you may want to advertise to [00:49:43] the residents in the area to have a special, as we've done in the past for other things, [00:49:49] to get a consensus, you know, to a little bit of the citizen's power there. [00:49:55] Not everybody comes to the meetings or follows the agenda. [00:49:59] My concern, without sounding too superficial about it, is somewhat money. [00:50:06] We are a growing city. [00:50:08] We've, in the past, when one of you were the mayor, we had a little bit of a concern because [00:50:14] we had lots and lots of churches for our size of our city and our tax revenue wasn't really [00:50:22] balancing well. [00:50:24] So, there's a lot of things that come into question that I feel maybe rather than just [00:50:31] voting on this tonight, maybe you could explore it a little bit and get a consensus, a little [00:50:37] more of a consensus about this. [00:50:39] Obviously, you've got a couple of letters. [00:50:41] I don't know if they're good letters, bad letters, if they give you any kind of exploration [00:50:46] on this. [00:50:47] But certainly, I would think maybe that this calls for that, you know, at this point. [00:50:54] That's, you know, and my big questions are those two things. [00:50:59] And I kind of do feel bad because I thought we were going to get that and do something [00:51:04] with it as far as what Mr. Altman was talking about. [00:51:08] He talked about it once previously. [00:51:09] That's why I remembered it was the idea of an outreach and some other things that we [00:51:16] could make do with it. [00:51:18] But there you go. [00:51:21] Thank you, Mr. Cain. [00:51:22] Anyone else? [00:51:23] Hi. [00:51:24] My name is Michelle Pianski and I live at 6034 Delaware Avenue. [00:51:42] I'm the neighbor of the American Finnish Club. [00:51:45] So when they were serving the property, a survey in the property the other day, I went [00:51:50] over and questioned them because now they're in my yard past my fence line quite a bit. [00:51:55] And when I bought the property 16 years ago, there was never an issue with the survey. [00:52:01] And the guy said, well, you'll have to go to the meeting, you know, and ask questions. [00:52:07] So that's one of my questions there. [00:52:09] Another question is, I know that fence has been there for 33 years because I used to [00:52:15] own the house out back. [00:52:17] And then my other question is, the drainage ditch from the parking lot of the American [00:52:25] Finnish Club isn't actually on Madison, it's on Delaware. [00:52:30] And the drainage ditch where all the drainage used to run now backs up and comes into my [00:52:37] yard. [00:52:40] And I've called the city several times. [00:52:41] They've come out and looked at it, but they said it was a problem for the American Finnish [00:52:45] Club. [00:52:46] Like private property, there wasn't much they could do. [00:52:48] They said, you know, if it was an emergency to call them. [00:52:52] So that's one of my things. [00:52:54] And another thing, I didn't understand really why it was getting like a specialty license [00:52:59] because when LootNet advertised the facility, it was advertised under a religious facility. [00:53:09] So I didn't really understand that. [00:53:11] So that was another one of my questions. [00:53:14] And we have a church right down the street at Delaware and Congress. [00:53:19] We have another facility down there. [00:53:22] And I know when it was, well, Pastor Dixon used to be there with the New Beginnings Christian [00:53:29] Church. [00:53:30] And they tried to do outreaches to the community, you know, like feed the hungry people and [00:53:35] try to do the best. [00:53:36] And then the church that was there before that used to bring up a portable trailer for [00:53:42] showers for the homeless. [00:53:45] And then they weren't allowed to do that anymore. [00:53:48] So like, what are the rules about that? [00:53:50] Like they tried to reach out to the community, the church down the street by bringing in [00:53:54] the portable showers on Tuesday from like they'd serve them breakfast. [00:53:58] And they bring it there till like noon and it was all self-contained, but then they weren't [00:54:02] allowed to have it down there. [00:54:04] They used to take in the homeless and set up cots so they'd have a place when it was [00:54:08] cold in the wintertime to sleep. [00:54:11] And then all of a sudden, they weren't allowed to do that. [00:54:16] So like, what are the rules if it was to be a church? [00:54:20] You know, like, what are the rules of the city to do outreaches like that? [00:54:28] And I mean, when they had their church down there and they did outreaches, it wasn't [00:54:32] like it wasn't, they were not accompanied. [00:54:37] People from the church were there, the cots were set up. [00:54:41] They had a certain time that they had to be in there, there was no drugs and alcohol allowed [00:54:45] in the church. [00:54:46] So that's my question too. [00:54:48] And I wanted to see, you know, about the property line. [00:54:52] So if we could get some of those questions answered, I'd be appreciative. [00:54:58] Thank you. [00:54:59] Okay, thank you. [00:55:00] Anyone else? [00:55:01] We'll close public comment. [00:55:06] Mr. Driscoll, do we have information on the property lines since that was an issue that [00:55:12] was brought up? [00:55:13] I assume that they filed something. [00:55:16] Right. [00:55:17] There is, we have a survey, but if there's a dispute on property line, that's between [00:55:22] neighbors with their, we go on what the professional survey provides us as the city. [00:55:27] So we, you know, we can't just, we can't mediate a property line dispute between property [00:55:32] owners. [00:55:33] We go on what a surveyor provides us. [00:55:36] Now when they come through the development, if this is approved and they come through [00:55:39] the development review process, we will have a new survey. [00:55:43] We'll be able to verify, you know, the lines and the property lines with that. [00:55:47] Also the concern about drainage could be addressed through that development review process if [00:55:51] with the improvements to the parking lot. [00:55:54] So many of these concerns could be addressed, will be, could be, would be addressed as part [00:56:00] of that development review process if they were to be approved. [00:56:05] Just real quick, on the loop net, realtors can say whatever they want to say. [00:56:09] It has no obligation to the city what a realtor says about a piece of property. [00:56:14] So I hope that answered most of the questions. [00:56:17] Thank you. [00:56:18] Yes. [00:56:19] Mr. Peters. [00:56:20] Yeah, a couple questions. [00:56:21] I'm not sure who's going to answer them all, but first of all, I indicated it's a 5,000 [00:56:25] square foot building, right? [00:56:26] Okay. [00:56:27] So it's over 5,000 square feet and we're talking about the assembly area going to be 1,000 [00:56:31] square feet. [00:56:32] It was always planned. [00:56:33] That's how you based the parking lot of 40? [00:56:36] It's roughly 1,400 square feet is the assembly area. [00:56:39] So assembly area that side would support a congregation of how many people if you matched [00:56:44] it out? [00:56:46] The number that we have, and we spoke with Mr. Darling, Assistant Fire Chief Darling [00:56:50] about that, and we believe at this point the maximum seating occupancy there is 70 based [00:56:57] on fire code and building code. [00:56:59] Again, if this were to move forward, we would verify that, but at this point we believe [00:57:03] it's 70 and that's what we believe the maximum seating would be. [00:57:07] The building with 5,000 square feet, I guess it could be modified inside to make a larger [00:57:11] assembly area which would result in maybe a need potentially for more parking as well. [00:57:17] Correct. [00:57:18] Correct. [00:57:19] Correct. [00:57:20] And does the property support additional parking if it's required? [00:57:23] There is sufficient room on the property. [00:57:25] I can't tell you how many more spaces that could be provided, but there is room there [00:57:31] adjacent to the existing parking lot. [00:57:35] Potentially it could be, but we can't give you an actual count and that would be something [00:57:39] they would have to go through that analysis when they would come through with their development [00:57:43] review plans. [00:57:44] And so the building's currently vacant, is that right? [00:57:48] That's correct, yes. [00:57:49] And so if we were looking at this building today and the American Finish Club wanted [00:57:52] to come in and utilize it for their purposes, would they also be asking for a rezoning exception [00:58:00] in that R3? [00:58:02] Most likely they would, yes. [00:58:04] Yes, sir. [00:58:05] So what I'm trying to get at is this is a matter of not whether it's going to be a church [00:58:09] or not, but necessarily it's a zoning question and of course the church would have to have [00:58:14] a special exception. [00:58:15] So would the American Finish Club or American Legion wants to come in and buy the same situation [00:58:22] they'd be looking at, right? [00:58:23] Yes, sir. [00:58:24] That is correct. [00:58:25] Yes, sir. [00:58:26] May I interject? [00:58:27] Some information I heard because the realtor and the owner had shown this property to me, [00:58:32] so in full disclosure, I'm the guy that had an interest in trying to see if there was [00:58:37] some community. [00:58:38] You're going to buy it? [00:58:39] I was looking at it, yeah, right, with some other folks to try to generate, you know, [00:58:46] there are a lot of non-profits out there, whether it's the Garden Club, the Wilters [00:58:50] Club, the clubs go on. [00:58:52] But also out of interest to see that it was available and what would its use be. [00:58:57] But I was told by the owner, again, who says it's a church or whatever, but I was told [00:59:03] by the owner that they had kept their license for the Civic Club intact to preserve the [00:59:11] grandfathering of it to be available for a civic group. [00:59:16] So told me they bought the occupational license, the electricity was on, the air conditioning [00:59:20] was on. [00:59:21] So whether they were functional or not, I'm just responding to your comment. [00:59:24] That was the explanation I was given. [00:59:27] Yeah, I'm not aware of that information. [00:59:29] So if something was a non-conforming use and continuous use and grandfathered in, that [00:59:34] was the argument that they made. [00:59:37] I wouldn't have bought it, the argument, but. [00:59:41] You all had told us before that there was a school running, it had been opened, it had [00:59:46] been emptied and completely emptied and it was still the school. [00:59:49] So I don't know if they've kept their license here to run the school. [00:59:53] And I'm not, it's an argument not even worth making because I don't really care, I'm just [00:59:58] following up your comment. [01:00:00] I appreciate that, Pete. And the last question I had regarding that was, and I understand [01:00:08] about the outreach, but I know many churches sometimes will look into maybe incorporating [01:00:13] daycares. They've got facilities that are there during the week and so forth. And if [01:00:19] I'm, if a church wanted to run a daycare there, for example, would they have to apply for [01:00:26] any additional exceptions for that? It would just be building permitting and permitting [01:00:31] if there's any changes to the building that would be required for that. Can I follow up [01:00:35] with that? Is that something that might be, you think, in the church's plans? Not a complete [01:00:43] daycare, but we may reach out to parents like for mothers that are, you know, they're home. [01:00:49] We may bring their children in for three or four hours in the morning and give them a [01:00:53] break. Stuff like that. But not a full-blown daycare at this point. No, sir. Not thinking [01:00:57] that. And may I address one other thing since I'm back up here, sir? We're not looking to [01:01:02] really become a homeless shelter or any of that type in that area at all. We're more [01:01:10] looking to minister to the residents of that home and the children of that area. We would [01:01:17] do like programs in the afternoon after school. We'd have maybe a program once a week where [01:01:23] we'd have the children for two or three hours, and then they would go back home. That type [01:01:28] of stuff, we would be doing that. The other thing that's, you talk about taxes, and of [01:01:33] course every city needs all the money it can raise. You're looking to pave alleyways, and [01:01:39] by the way, there is one right by that church. It would be that church. And you need money. [01:01:45] There's no doubt about it. But a church brings intangible value. When we raise, we incorporate [01:01:54] into a community and people start coming, you see that whole community changing. You [01:02:00] have less problems. You have less police calls. You have less problems, and you see a more [01:02:06] united community. So yes, you don't gain the money, but you gain other things that you [01:02:12] can't measure in cost. You gain a stronger community. It's what you gain. And I understand [01:02:19] cost. Believe me, I got to deal with cost all the time. But there's other things besides [01:02:25] the cost. And even if you brought in, as you were saying, sir, and I don't know your name [01:02:30] and I apologize for that. Yeah, but I can't see it that good. I'm sorry. My eyes aren't [01:02:35] good. Hearing's good, but the eyes aren't good. That even if you brought in these clubs [01:02:40] to help have social things, they're going to be pretty much tax-free too. They're not [01:02:45] going to give you a lot of taxes. Thank you. Mr. Murphy, did you have any? No, I answered. [01:02:52] I think we're at the point I would entertain a motion on this. Oh, before we do that, we [01:02:59] did have several emails and letters that came in. They were all negative, by the way, for [01:03:07] whatever it's worth. But I'll entertain a motion on the ordinance, first reading. For [01:03:15] the first meeting, I will move that we approve the special exception. Do we have a second? [01:03:22] I'll second. Okay. To the maker, any further discussion? Not other than that, you know, [01:03:30] a lot of times you look at this, and I base it on my own personal experience. I'm in a [01:03:34] commercial neighborhood. There's a church down the street that I find I would indicate [01:03:38] to be a good neighbor. They keep their landscape up. They keep their parking lot up. Not a [01:03:45] lot of traffic. On Sundays when I see the traffic, it's not speeding traffic. So, you [01:03:51] know, sometimes you relate your personal experiences to that, and I would find that maybe a church [01:03:58] would be a good neighbor. Mr. Murphy, do you have a second? I agree with the Councilman. [01:04:04] They're going to make improvements to that area, which has been needed for a long time. [01:04:10] There's nothing else really going on there now. Not to say there might be something in
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First Reading, Ordinance No. 2021-2233: Design Guidelines for Multi-Family Projects
discussedFirst reading of Ordinance 2021-2233 establishing multifamily design guidelines for projects of 10+ dwelling units or 1+ acre, following a December 2020 moratorium. The ordinance amends Chapter 7 of the Land Development Code to address site design, building design, mass and scale, materials, colors, amenities, open space, and compatibility with surrounding neighborhoods. Brad Cornelius presented the ordinance, which was developed with the Land Development Review Board over four public hearings.
Ord. Ordinance No. 2021-2233
- direction:Council heard the first reading of Ordinance 2021-2233 establishing multifamily design guidelines. (none)
Wade TrimBrad CorneliusMr. AlmondMr. PetersMs. MannsChapter 7 Land Development CodeDecember 2020 multifamily moratoriumDevelopment Review Committee (DRC)Land Development Review Board (LDRB)Multifamily design standardsOrdinance 2021-2233Section 7.04.01Section 7.05.01Section 7.06.01Section 7.09.02.2Section 7.16.07Section 7.27.00The Central (multifamily project in process)▶ Jump to 1:04:14 in the videoShow transcriptHide transcript
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[01:04:14] the future, but I think it would be a good addition to that spot. And any kind of community [01:04:20] outreach and things you can do to help the community would be awesome. Mr. Almond? Yes. [01:04:28] To disclose what's on the letter and the argument that was made in opposition to it [01:04:34] for those that are not here to explain why they signed this, it says that there doesn't [01:04:40] appear to be anyone in the neighborhood who's a member of the community seeking to establish [01:04:47] a meeting place in a location considered for special exception. And the other statement [01:04:55] which concerns me a bit, but it says there's potential incompatibility of the mission of [01:05:01] the religious community with the culture of the neighborhood and possibly individual residents. [01:05:06] And man, that's kind of sad to hear that being said, because I would agree with my colleagues [01:05:12] that, you know, having a church in a community is a positive thing, and I'm sure that all [01:05:19] of what they have said I can agree with. I will say that the number of tables that are [01:05:25] in there and chairs well exceed the number that you're estimating to be used. So if you [01:05:30] have extra tables and chairs in the city, you could probably, no, we could use them [01:05:35] for some of our events that we don't have tables and chairs for. But there is a big [01:05:40] kitchen in it, and that's probably almost the same size as the meeting room. So assuming [01:05:46] that they first go to church and then go to eat, it's the same people in the thing. [01:05:51] But I would hope you would take advantage of that kitchen. It's a beautiful kitchen, [01:05:55] and I can imagine if nothing else that you could try to do some fundraising or breakfasts [01:05:59] or something, because I think it has some potential. And it is a historic building of [01:06:05] sorts, as much history as we can find in the less than 100 years we've been around here. [01:06:11] So I'll support the motion, but the ideas of using, of having things for our youth are [01:06:17] still alive in my head, and I've got another site in mind for you to consider. [01:06:24] I live a bit down the street from Mr. Peters, but within half a dozen blocks of my house, [01:06:36] I've got four churches. The one on River gets pretty crowded on Sunday mornings, and [01:06:46] I suspect there is some traffic going by Mr. Peters' house when they let out. But other [01:06:52] than that, you almost wouldn't know that those churches were there. They're empty most of [01:06:59] the time. They do have evening and weekend stuff, but it's not a major traffic generator, [01:07:10] and certainly with Madison Street being right next to it, I can't imagine that you would [01:07:19] even notice the additional traffic on Madison, given how much traffic there already is there. [01:07:25] So I'm going to support this on first reading as well. Any further discussion? [01:07:31] Since she's already missed her 8 o'clock time frame, I would say yes, sir. I have one more [01:07:36] thing to say, which is, if you fix the parking lot up, and we get some of those trolleys [01:07:43] we were talking about, we have a number of churches in the city who make good money parking [01:07:49] cars during some of our big events, and it's pretty close to what would be a nice little [01:07:54] part of our route. So if we're going to welcome you into town, we may have a few things we [01:08:00] could use your assistance with along time as well. Thank you. [01:08:04] We have a bigger parking lot, but the men's club at the church I go to routinely makes [01:08:13] $500-$600 parking for some of the big events downtown. So there is money to be made. [01:08:20] If there's no further discussion, all those in favor, please signify by saying aye. Aye. [01:08:28] Opposed, like sign. Motion passes. Next is first reading, Ordinance 2021-2233. [01:08:34] This is Ordinance number 2021-2233, an ordinance of the City of Newport, Virginia, Florida, [01:08:39] providing for amendment of Chapter 7 of the Land Development Code by adding Section 7.27.00 [01:08:44] thereto, providing for amendment of Section 7.0401, 7.05.01, 7.06.01, 7.09.02.2, and [01:08:56] 7.16.07 of Chapter 7 of the Land Development Code pertaining to multifamily design standards [01:09:02] within various zoning districts, providing for building and site design standards for [01:09:06] new multifamily projects with ten dwelling units or more, or which are located on one acre [01:09:12] or greater properties, providing for severability, providing for conflicts, providing for [01:09:16] complication, and providing an effective date. Thank you. [01:09:20] Mr. Mayor, members of the Council, I'll start to introduce this agenda item, and then I'll rely [01:09:28] on Mr. Cornelius to introduce the specifics of the ordinance, but all of you will recall that back [01:09:37] in December of 2020, I asked you to declare a moratorium on the issuance of building permits [01:09:46] as it relates to the issuance of permits on multifamily housing developments. The purpose of that [01:10:03] was to afford the staff an opportunity to come up with some design and construction guidelines [01:10:12] relating specifically to multifamily residential developments because our Land Development Review [01:10:21] Code did not contain any. What we were trying to address specifically was properties that were [01:10:31] one acre in size or larger and those containing ten dwelling units or more, and it did not apply to projects [01:10:42] that were being implemented in multi-phases and that had already been initiated. The proposed standards [01:10:51] are intended to achieve and provide guidance on the design of the building, the size, the site layout, and the [01:11:03] amenities that are provided at projects, the integration of existing neighborhoods, and the linkages to community [01:11:17] facilities as well. The Land Development Review Board has worked very hard with Brad Cornelius and I. We've in fact [01:11:27] had three public hearings with them. Four has it been? I missed the last one. I left Brad in there by himself for the last one. [01:11:35] And they have provided us with great input on the standards. It's comprehensive, no question about it, but quite simply [01:11:46] absent the standards, the objectives of an integrated quality and walkable community are easily lost, and we thought it was too [01:11:59] important to not to allow our left undeveloped properties, which are just ripe for multifamily developments, to be left vulnerable [01:12:14] to less than suitable development. So with that being said, Mr. Cornelius, what did we propose? [01:12:22] Thank you. Thank you, Ms. Manns. Again, I'm Brad Cornelius with Wade Trim, your contracted planner. So I have a short presentation, [01:12:28] relatively short, and I'm not going to read the ordinance. I'm going to give you the highlights of the major points of the ordinance, and [01:12:36] I'm open for any questions as we go through this. And I think, do we have the presentation? [01:12:42] Yeah, we do, but that was the wrong one, so we're searching for it. [01:12:45] Well, that's okay. I can move on, and if he finds it, we will do that. As Ms. Manns said, again, I won't reiterate this point. [01:12:50] Back in December, you did do the moratorium, so this ordinance that's before you this evening is to meet your need and why you did this [01:12:59] ordinance to implement multifamily design guidelines. And again, I just want to say up front, your Land Development Review Board was fantastic. [01:13:09] They took the initial draft, and four meetings later, we had one that was 100 times better, with very good input, and also input from the public [01:13:18] and folks that were there. It wasn't just them that we got comments from. We also received comment from folks that attended the meeting. [01:13:24] And the other thing I want council to know as well is, Ms. Manns and I, we've had several meetings with potential multifamily developers over this [01:13:31] six-month period, and we've shared this with each of them as we've talked to them as they're preliminary looking at coming to the city, and we've [01:13:38] gotten very positive responses from the developers looking at coming into the city. So far, we haven't had anybody say to us, [01:13:45] this won't make it happen. We can't work with this. We've had very, very positive response. Thank you, sir. So I did want to say that early on here. [01:13:54] So we got through that. So in terms of what are the primary objectives for this, and as Ms. Manns said, it's really livability and neighborhood [01:14:03] compatibility. We want to be sure that the multifamily that's coming into the city is compatible with the city and what is here. [01:14:12] We want to have a vision and creativity in architectural styles and details, and I think that's something very important here to also remember. [01:14:18] We're not being a cookbook. We're not telling the designers, this is what you absolutely have to do. We're more giving them the standards and the [01:14:27] guidelines and what the outcomes that we need to give them the opportunity to design the best project for the city, to meet the needs of the city as well [01:14:35] as for the developer. But they have the standards that they have to meet. But this will not create, and I know that was an early on concern, cookie-cutter [01:14:44] development. Everything's not going to look the same. Everything's going to still look different, but it's going to be compatible with the character of the [01:14:50] area and with the city and give that opportunities. Enhancing the relationships between multifamily development and adjacent land uses. [01:15:00] We have many areas here in the city where multifamily abuts single family, so to deal with that issue. [01:15:07] And also the integration of transportation, automobile, transit, bicycle, and pedestrian. [01:15:12] That's all part of these standards. [01:15:16] Next is, again, the appropriate scale, again, compatible with our existing neighborhoods. [01:15:22] We also have a big focus on public and private open spaces within the developments. [01:15:26] We don't just want them to be buildings, we want to have open spaces, areas for recreation within these developments. [01:15:32] Where we have streetscapes, make them attractive and walkable. [01:15:36] And as Ms. Mann said and the attorney said, this would apply to projects that are ten units or greater, [01:15:42] or more than one acre, or adding new projects. [01:15:47] How we got to the ten units and the one acre, that is your minimum multifamily density within your comprehensive plan and within your zoning. [01:15:55] So that's how we got to the ten. [01:15:58] Ten units per acre is your minimum multifamily density. [01:16:01] So that's what picks it up. [01:16:03] And to get to ten, you need at least an acre. [01:16:05] So that's how the ten and the one came into play within the standard. [01:16:09] And this will not apply to existing projects, such as the central that's in process, building out in phases, [01:16:15] because they've already been through the approval. [01:16:17] It does not retroactively affect those kind of projects. [01:16:23] The way the ordinance is structured, I think it's pretty simple. [01:16:26] We start out with definitions. [01:16:28] Then we speak about site guidelines, building guidelines, landscape, [01:16:33] and then the worst part of writing a code is making sure you have internal code references correct and no conflicts in there. [01:16:40] That's the last part of it, of the structure of the ordinance. [01:16:45] So in terms of site design guidelines, the idea of context and compatibility, [01:16:51] what we were trying to do is provide a range of housing type that respects the privacy of the neighbors [01:16:56] and also connectivity of the neighborhood. [01:16:58] So, again, we don't want to impose this on surrounding properties. [01:17:01] We want it to respect the surrounding areas and connect to the neighborhood, [01:17:06] not be isolated to these neighborhoods as they develop. [01:17:10] We want to avoid incompatible building scale and setbacks. [01:17:13] If we have larger things, we get bigger setbacks. [01:17:16] So it's compatible with the area. [01:17:19] And also the stride and bicycle connectivity. [01:17:22] We don't want to have just an artificial break if there's the opportunity to connect a trail [01:17:28] or connect a sidewalk or some other pedestrian way or bike way between an existing area and a new development. [01:17:35] And this would require that or have that occur. [01:17:38] In terms of placement and orientation of a building, [01:17:41] generally if it's oriented toward the public streets or courtyards or other public spaces within the development. [01:17:47] Again, this will alter depending on the size and the character of the development, [01:17:51] but those are the general standards for it. [01:17:53] If we have courtyards and open space, to have them grouped around these open spaces within there. [01:17:58] And, again, the specifics of it is going to depend on the specific project on how this would happen. [01:18:05] But we give them the guidance and the standards that they have to meet. [01:18:09] In terms of pedestrian and vehicular circulation, [01:18:13] one of the things we want as they design their parking lots is they design, [01:18:17] if they have internal driveways or roadways, things like that, that make the neighborhoods identifiable. [01:18:24] Make them define the area, not just be something that just happens to be there. [01:18:28] But it helps give identity to that community, to that development. [01:18:32] We have a focus on pedestrian safety. [01:18:35] Assuring its safety, and that actually goes to bicycles as well. [01:18:38] Friendly, safe, and provide amenities that protect that to make sure it's safe. [01:18:42] And also the linkages to pedestrians and trails and things like that. [01:18:45] So we have that accounted for within the ordinance. [01:18:51] In terms of site amenities and common open spaces, [01:18:54] in terms of the open spaces, we want them to have well-defined edges. [01:18:58] You know, they're identifiable. [01:19:00] You can use landscaping, walkways, buildings, [01:19:02] different ways just to identify where those open spaces are within the project. [01:19:07] In terms of amenities, how we structured the amenities requirement, [01:19:12] these are minimums, these aren't maximums. [01:19:14] They have to provide at least this number. [01:19:17] We based it on the size of the project, [01:19:19] because not every project is going to be large enough to have the same amount of amenities as a larger project. [01:19:25] So the standards that we came up with and are recommending is for a small project, [01:19:29] which is something less than 50 dwelling units, so between 10 and 49, it's one amenity. [01:19:35] Now, amenity can be many things. [01:19:37] It can be a playground, it could be a basketball court, it could be a swimming pool, [01:19:41] it could be a pickleball court. [01:19:43] We're not telling them what that amenity needs to be. [01:19:46] We give them examples of what they could be. [01:19:48] But again, it's for them to tell us what is that amenity you're going to provide, [01:19:52] at least one if you're less than 50. [01:19:55] If you're between 50 to 100 dwelling units, [01:19:57] then you need to provide two amenities within your development. [01:20:00] And if you were defining large, if you're over 100 dwelling units, [01:20:03] that's three amenities within your development. [01:20:06] And again, those amenities also will be guided by who are the residents going to be. [01:20:11] And this was actually a discussion we had at the Land Development Review Board. [01:20:14] And that's why we didn't want to define what the amenities are, [01:20:17] because it's going to be driven by who the residents would be. [01:20:20] If you have a family complex, it's going to be different than one for seniors, [01:20:23] in terms of what the amenities would be. [01:20:27] So we're providing the number, the minimum number that they'd have to provide. [01:20:31] And also with the mid to large size, so anything over 50 dwelling units or above, [01:20:36] they also have to provide a community gathering space, [01:20:38] whether that's a clubhouse or something like that, or a community garden, [01:20:42] some kind of community gathering space within that project, [01:20:45] because these are relatively large projects. [01:20:48] And those are the amenities. [01:20:50] And that's the public common open spaces. [01:20:52] Then we address private open spaces. [01:20:54] So these are the balconies or the patios that are on the back of the units, [01:20:57] as part of the units. [01:20:59] And we provided this recommendation because we felt it's important that individual owners [01:21:04] also have a sense of privacy and of some kind of ownership into the property. [01:21:09] So the requirement in this ordinance is that at least 50% of the units in the development, [01:21:16] so half of the units in the development, [01:21:18] have to provide at least 80 square feet as either a yard, patio, or balcony with each unit. [01:21:23] So basically if you're a ground floor unit, you'd have a patio that's 4 by 20 [01:21:29] or whatever comes up to the 80 square feet, any configuration. [01:21:33] Multi-story, you'd have a balcony. [01:21:35] But we did it at 50%. [01:21:36] And this is an area that changed also, just so the council is aware. [01:21:39] We started at 100%. [01:21:41] And through the feedback we received through the Land Development Review Board [01:21:44] and through interests of parties, that was a term that wasn't realistic, to say 100%. [01:21:50] So we ended up at the 50%, which is what the LDRB did approve for that. [01:21:58] In terms of site furnishings and utilities, this adds to the character of the area. [01:22:02] So the common open space, they're going to have site furnishings. [01:22:05] The fencing and wall materials are going to be similar materials to the building [01:22:09] and complementary in color. [01:22:10] Again, so everything ties together. [01:22:11] There's a unified development theme that's within these projects. [01:22:15] If there's utilities, the utility boxes, the AC handlers, things like that, [01:22:21] they should be integrated into the building architecture. [01:22:24] But if they're not, if they're exterior, they must be fully screened. [01:22:27] We don't want to be able to see them from the outside. [01:22:30] So again, kind of protecting that character of that development. [01:22:36] Now we move on to building design guidelines. [01:22:38] In terms of context and compatibility, what we're telling developers here [01:22:44] is we want you to look at the existing architectural context [01:22:47] of the area where you're developing. [01:22:49] And we want you to be consistent. [01:22:51] Not be the same. [01:22:52] Ms. Mann's one of the comments she had earlier. [01:22:55] If it's ugly, we don't want you to be ugly. [01:22:57] But be consistent with that. [01:23:00] Which was a very good comment. [01:23:04] So to take it in concern. [01:23:05] And really where that helps is here in your downtown. [01:23:08] When projects come into downtown, take into account the downtown design guidelines [01:23:11] you already have in effect. [01:23:13] So look at the downtown. [01:23:14] Look at the architecture that's here. [01:23:16] So you're not conflicting with what's going on in the area. [01:23:20] And also that you have transitions outside of that immediate area [01:23:24] where you're developing. [01:23:26] So we have that recognition of being compatible with the area [01:23:30] that's being developed. [01:23:32] In terms of mass and scale, or I'll say the size of the buildings [01:23:36] or of the structures, one of the things to address that, [01:23:40] we're not saying you can't be so big. [01:23:42] But we're saying that we want you to design the building [01:23:45] where the buildings don't feel so big when you look at them. [01:23:48] Being things like similar building elements to give consistency [01:23:52] within the project. [01:23:54] And more importantly is building forms. [01:23:57] So you don't have just a flat facade. [01:24:00] Just a flat face to the front or side or back of the building. [01:24:03] So we want these buildings to have recesses or projections [01:24:06] and varying heights and roof forms. [01:24:09] The sides of the buildings have some character to them. [01:24:12] Not just a flat facade that you see on some older multifamily units [01:24:17] around the state of Florida, not just here in the city. [01:24:21] In terms of building materials and architectural details, [01:24:24] I will say this is probably the one part where we got most specific. [01:24:28] But we also put in a big out as part of that. [01:24:32] We did identify acceptable facade materials. [01:24:35] So materials to go on the outside of the building. [01:24:38] And what we've identified are stucco, vinyl siding, lap siding, [01:24:43] cement board siding, wood siding, board and batten wood, [01:24:46] native stone or brick. [01:24:48] But we know we can't identify every one of them [01:24:50] because there's other ones we don't know what they are. [01:24:52] So we do give the opportunity and the ability for the [01:24:54] Development Review Committee, because they're the ones that will be [01:24:56] reviewing these, to approve other materials if it's acceptable [01:24:59] and consistent with the intent of this ordinance. [01:25:02] But we do have the acceptable ones defined, [01:25:05] but we do have the opportunity for other ones if it is consistent [01:25:08] with the intent of the ordinance. [01:25:10] The other part of the building design is that we don't want to have [01:25:13] just boring sides and backs of buildings. [01:25:16] Take account for the design of the sides and back. [01:25:19] It doesn't have to match the front, but be similar. [01:25:22] Have some character to it. [01:25:24] Have some of those architectural details to the sides and backs [01:25:26] of these buildings. [01:25:28] Again, to give it a good character of what we see from the outside. [01:25:32] We also identify acceptable roof materials. [01:25:35] I won't go through them all. [01:25:37] But we have the same provision in there that other materials could also [01:25:40] be approved through the approval of DRC. [01:25:43] One of the issues came up, what if it's a flat roof? [01:25:45] None of these would really work in that case. [01:25:47] So we do have that ability to, the DRC has that ability to approve [01:25:51] other types of materials. [01:25:53] Again, consistent with the intent of the ordinance. [01:25:56] In terms of colors, we're not telling you what color to paint your building. [01:26:01] But we're saying we don't want to see a single color building. [01:26:04] Just one big old gray wall or just one old color. [01:26:08] We want to see, you know, multicolor but not garish. [01:26:14] That was actually a misman's suggestion, was the garish part. [01:26:17] We don't want to, I got to give you credit here on the good changes. [01:26:22] The puke green. [01:26:23] Correct, correct, correct. [01:26:25] So as part of the design review, we will know the colors. [01:26:28] We will see the pattern and palette that will be going and we can make [01:26:31] that determination to look at the consistency with the city and with [01:26:35] that surrounding area is what we're doing here. [01:26:39] And if we have garages or carports, again, [01:26:42] they would have similar architectural style as the principal buildings. [01:26:46] Again, we're not just throwing structures away. [01:26:48] We're making sure they meet that overall architectural character. [01:26:54] In terms of landscape design, the natural features. [01:26:58] So as it's already identified within your comprehensive plan, [01:27:02] when we look at sites, when developers look at sites, you know, [01:27:05] significant natural features or cultural resources are a priority for [01:27:08] preservation and protection. [01:27:10] As we look at that, we don't just want to bulldoze a site just for the sake [01:27:13] of bulldozing it. [01:27:14] We need to take a hard look at what are those resources that are on the [01:27:18] property that need to be protected through this process. [01:27:22] In terms of the land disturbance, [01:27:23] we just want to say minimal disturbance of the natural topography. [01:27:26] You know, we don't want to have massive grading and things like that to [01:27:29] happen on these properties. [01:27:31] Again, we want this to be consistent with the character of the city. [01:27:36] In terms of the landscaping materials and standards, [01:27:38] this is in and over above what you already have for landscaping within your [01:27:42] land development code related to multifamily development in terms of the [01:27:46] landscaping. [01:27:47] We're providing additional detail to what you already have. [01:27:50] And here we're saying we want to see a wide variety of plant materials. [01:27:53] We want the parking islands covered in live plant materials. [01:27:57] We want to be sure you have appropriate irrigation for your landscaping [01:28:02] materials that you are putting in. [01:28:04] And also use the landscaping, again, [01:28:06] to define your property lines and your public and private spaces on your [01:28:09] property. [01:28:10] Again, so the landscaping is not an afterthought. [01:28:13] It's part of your design element of your project. [01:28:17] A little bit more on landscape. [01:28:20] In terms of parking lot, [01:28:21] this is very similar to what's in your code already. [01:28:23] Parking lots are required to be screened from adjacent streets, [01:28:27] public spaces, [01:28:29] and adjacent properties with landscaping and fences or walls. [01:28:32] So we want to have the screening of these parking areas. [01:28:36] We did get specific on the lighting. [01:28:39] And what we have here regarding lighting is looking at pedestrians. [01:28:45] Low and glare-controlled fixtures. [01:28:48] If there's a light pole or build-mounted or tree-mounted lighting that it [01:28:52] can't be any higher than 20 feet. [01:28:54] If it's the bollard lighting, the lighting, you know, [01:28:56] low lighting on the ground, no more than four feet high. [01:28:59] The light fixtures must use full cutoff lenses or hoods. [01:29:02] And also the light fixtures are color-correct types, halogen or metal, [01:29:07] for visual comfort of pedestrians. [01:29:09] So we are addressing lighting with multifamily within this ordinance. [01:29:14] In terms of stormwater management, [01:29:16] we have some general standards that we put here. [01:29:19] Again, that's going to be generally mostly driven by the Southwest Florida [01:29:22] Water Management District and the stormwater permitting and the other parts [01:29:25] of your code. [01:29:27] But we do say in here we want to encourage the use of green roofs, [01:29:30] permeable pavement, rain barrels, rain gardens, vegetative soils. [01:29:34] So doing kind of green development opportunities. [01:29:36] We're not saying you have to do it, [01:29:38] but we're encouraging you to look at the opportunity to do those kinds of [01:29:41] opportunities to do more green type of development. [01:29:44] Same with this last bullet here. [01:29:46] We're asking developers as they come in, [01:29:48] because this is a requirement generally within your comprehensive plan, [01:29:51] show us how you're promoting energy efficiency, water conservation, [01:29:55] and addressing resiliency as part of your project. [01:29:58] We're not telling you how to do it. [01:30:00] We're saying, show us how you're doing it. [01:30:02] Demonstrate to us that you are addressing these concerns [01:30:05] because these are important concerns that we have. [01:30:10] I am just about done here. [01:30:11] And then the last part of the ordinance, again, [01:30:13] is just references in the zoning districts, [01:30:15] how we did this working with your city attorney, [01:30:18] is identified all the other zoning districts [01:30:20] that allowed for multifamily, [01:30:22] put the reference to these new standards, [01:30:24] because this will be a new section, [01:30:26] to make sure that we had the right connection [01:30:28] between multifamily and these standards. [01:30:30] So that's just an administrative exercise, [01:30:34] that part of the ordinance. [01:30:36] And my last slide. [01:30:38] So as Ms. Mann said, staff has, [01:30:41] we do recommend approval of this ordinance. [01:30:44] The Land Development Review Board, [01:30:45] at their May 20th public hearing, [01:30:47] voted to recommend approval of the ordinance [01:30:50] by a vote of five to zero. [01:30:52] And your second reading of this ordinance, [01:30:54] if it's to move forward after tonight, [01:30:56] is scheduled for June 15th of 2021. [01:30:59] So that is my presentation. [01:31:00] I'd be happy to answer any questions. [01:31:04] Open up for public comment. [01:31:08] Seeing no one come forward, bring it back to council. [01:31:12] I'll move for approval. [01:31:14] Second. [01:31:15] To the maker. [01:31:16] Yeah, one question. [01:31:17] And when you went through the color little dialogue, [01:31:21] and you said that they had an out, [01:31:23] they could go to the, was that the LDRB? [01:31:27] The DRC. [01:31:27] Development Review Committee. [01:31:28] The DRC. [01:31:29] Staff Review, yes sir. [01:31:30] So, is there anything in the ordinance, [01:31:35] so they are the final determinant? [01:31:38] A lot of these things they have, [01:31:39] not that we're looking forward [01:31:41] to more people making appeals to us, [01:31:42] but is there an appeal process? [01:31:44] Absolutely, the standard appeal process [01:31:46] for staff to determine it would be in place. [01:31:48] And the other thing that could also happen, [01:31:49] and will probably happen many times, [01:31:52] is if a project triggers the plan development process. [01:31:55] Because many of these multifamily projects [01:31:57] that we are talking to now will most likely [01:31:59] trigger the plan development process. [01:32:01] That will then provide the opportunity, [01:32:03] not only for the DRC, [01:32:04] but also for the Land Development Review Board [01:32:06] and the City Council to look at those PDs [01:32:09] in light of these standards as well. [01:32:12] On the plan unit development side of things, [01:32:16] I believe the law passed, I'm not sure, [01:32:18] but it expanded the size of acreage [01:32:22] for small-scale comprehensive plan amendments. [01:32:27] Are you familiar with that? [01:32:28] Yes, I don't know if the governor has signed it yet, [01:32:30] but for small-scale future land use map amendments, [01:32:32] the legislature approved a bill [01:32:34] that would increase it from 10 acres to 50 acres, [01:32:37] I believe it was. [01:32:38] But yeah, it has not been signed yet, it's not. [01:32:40] Oh yeah. [01:32:41] But. [01:32:42] I think it may be coming, [01:32:43] unless he decides not to sign it, [01:32:45] because it sounds like something he would sign. [01:32:48] But in a nutshell, that would allow for us, [01:32:52] if we see a development that wants to come into our city [01:32:56] and we have a comprehensive plan issue, [01:33:00] that we can do a small-scale modification to move it. [01:33:06] I'm particularly thinking about some of our issues [01:33:09] where we have excess density rights, [01:33:12] and now we're talking about multifamily [01:33:14] over 100 units in some cases. [01:33:16] If they want to locate in the half of our city [01:33:18] that's in the coastal high hazard area, [01:33:21] and they need that additional density, [01:33:24] my understanding, our comprehensive plan [01:33:26] isn't really consistent with our strategy there [01:33:28] to, in a thoughtful way, [01:33:35] be able to grow in areas [01:33:38] with all the right bells and whistles. [01:33:41] Does that have anything to do with that? [01:33:43] Well yes, if we have properties, [01:33:46] in particular, I'll say an annexation that comes in [01:33:49] where we need to do an amendment, [01:33:51] if that law is signed into law, [01:33:54] anything up to 50 acres would be a small-scale amendment, [01:33:58] meaning a much quicker, less reviewed process, [01:34:01] as opposed to 10 acres as it is as we stand here today. [01:34:04] But I will say, just so it is clear, [01:34:05] that doesn't affect your planned unit development process. [01:34:08] That's a local zoning approval, [01:34:10] so that would not be affected. [01:34:11] Thank you kindly. [01:34:12] Yes sir. [01:34:13] Good job, thanks for all the hard work from everybody. [01:34:16] Second? [01:34:17] Yeah, and I think this is something [01:34:19] we're needing and lacking. [01:34:20] I think my take on it is we don't want [01:34:23] a cheap, boring development project [01:34:24] that doesn't complement our community. [01:34:26] Instead, we want quality investment in our community, [01:34:29] and I don't see anything wrong with that. [01:34:31] Right, thank you. [01:34:34] Yeah, I had an opportunity to sit in [01:34:36] on a couple of the LDR meetings [01:34:38] when this ordinance was reviewed, [01:34:39] and they did an outstanding job.
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Board Re-Appointments: Bonnie Martin and Marcia Mihall, Library Advisory Board
Transcript content does not match the agenda item; the recorded discussion concerns a comprehensive ordinance on building/housing standards (unit size, outdoor area, energy efficiency, EV conduit stub-outs) rather than the Library Advisory Board re-appointments of Bonnie Martin and Marcia Mihall.
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[01:34:41] This is a very comprehensive ordinance, [01:34:45] and the challenge was to, [01:34:50] I think everybody working on it would say, [01:34:52] okay, can we design something [01:34:54] that still can be affordably built? [01:34:56] Because, I mean, you've really done an outstanding job [01:35:00] in trying to establish standards of that. [01:35:04] I think that almost any city residence [01:35:06] would be proud to have in our city. [01:35:09] And so, still to work on that, [01:35:11] to try to get it to be affordable. [01:35:13] That's the plan of having only 50% of the units [01:35:16] having the 80-foot, square-foot outdoor area. [01:35:20] So, you know, I was, you know, my thoughts [01:35:24] as I was listening to the ordinance [01:35:26] being worked on and revised, [01:35:28] I said, this is fantastic. [01:35:30] How soon can we start on an ordinance [01:35:32] to talk about units size of under 10? [01:35:36] So, I'm very supportive of the ordinance. [01:35:44] Thank you. [01:35:46] I like the way you had the ordinance dance [01:35:50] around the energy efficiency and resiliency standards. [01:35:55] Since our state legislature, [01:36:00] part of one of the things they're consistently trying to do [01:36:04] is gut the ability of local communities, [01:36:07] cities, and counties to try to get ahead of climate change. [01:36:13] And the other issues that affect us directly, [01:36:17] even if not them when they're in their ivory tower [01:36:20] up in Tallahassee. [01:36:24] I would think that one of the things [01:36:26] that might be looked upon, [01:36:31] or hopefully be looked upon favorably by the DRC [01:36:35] when they were looking at some of these things [01:36:38] that they were proposing [01:36:41] would be, for instance, and Matt, correct me [01:36:45] if I'm doing the wording wrong, [01:36:49] stubbing out the conduiting [01:36:54] to get electric connections out to where the parking is. [01:36:58] Close enough. [01:36:58] Not necessarily running wires, [01:37:02] but at least running the conduit to stub it out [01:37:07] so that if at some point in the future
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Board Re-Appointment: Beverly Barnett, Land Development Review Board
approvedCouncil voted on a board reappointment for Beverly Barnett to the Land Development Review Board. The transcript segment primarily captures the tail end of a prior discussion about EV charging infrastructure before the motion passed by voice vote.
- motion:Motion to reappoint Beverly Barnett to the Land Development Review Board. (passed)
Stonehaven at Main StreetBeverly BarnettMurphyEV charging infrastructureLand Development Review Board▶ Jump to 1:37:08 in the videoShow transcriptHide transcript
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[01:37:09] they discover they've got a demand for EV charging, [01:37:13] they can do it. [01:37:17] The complex formerly known as Main Street Landing, [01:37:21] and I keep losing, Stonehaven. [01:37:25] At Main Street. [01:37:26] At Main Street. [01:37:28] Has actually a whole bunch of 220 plugs [01:37:34] in their parking garage [01:37:36] for the benefit of their residents. [01:37:38] That's an example where they actually went the next step. [01:37:41] But if they stub the things out with conduiting, [01:37:46] it's dirt cheap to do it when it's being built. [01:37:50] It's not necessarily inexpensive [01:37:53] if they wait until after the thing's completely built [01:37:56] and then go rip out holes in walls [01:37:58] and everything else to try to do it. [01:38:00] So did I say that the right way? [01:38:03] Yeah. [01:38:03] Mr. Murphy. [01:38:04] Okay. [01:38:05] Being a non-electrician, [01:38:07] I don't know all the details, [01:38:11] but that's my understanding [01:38:13] is it's a heck of a lot cheaper to do it [01:38:16] or at least get prepared for it [01:38:18] before you finish the construction [01:38:21] rather than coming back after the fact. [01:38:25] But other than that, I thought it was excellent. [01:38:27] Thank you. [01:38:28] We have a motion and a second. [01:38:29] Is there any further discussion? [01:38:32] Hearing none, all those in favor, [01:38:33] please signify by saying aye. [01:38:36] Opposed, like, sign. [01:38:37] Motion passes. [01:38:39] Thank you very much. [01:38:40] Next we'll go to business items, [01:38:43] board reappointments, Bonnie Martin and Marcia Mahal. [01:38:49] We have several members of the library advisory board [01:38:52] present this evening for this exciting evening
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2021 Cotee River Bike Fest Alcoholic Beverage Special Event
approvedCouncil approved the alcoholic beverage special event application for the 2021 Cotee River Bike Fest, organized by Feral Cares Incorporated, allowing beer sales in Sims Park on October 8-10, 2021. Estimated peak attendance was noted at 16,500 people.
- motion:Approve the 2021 Cotee River Bike Fest alcoholic beverage special event application for beer sales in Sims Park on Oct 8-10, 2021. (passed)
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[01:38:57] where we consider reappointments. [01:38:59] And we made them sit all the way through this. [01:39:01] We did. [01:39:02] This is the point where we give you the opportunity [01:39:05] to run screaming no out the back door [01:39:08] if you don't want to be reappointed. [01:39:11] Reappointments, Mr. Mayor. [01:39:13] Very good. [01:39:15] And they will be up for renewal if they, [01:39:19] if you reappoint and they accept these reappointments [01:39:23] through June 5th of 2024. [01:39:26] In that case, and since I see neither of them [01:39:30] racing for the back door, I'd entertain a motion. [01:39:34] I move we approve the appointments. [01:39:35] Second. [01:39:37] Any discussion? [01:39:39] Thank you very much for your continued service. [01:39:41] All those in favor, please signify by saying aye. [01:39:44] Aye. Aye. [01:39:45] Opposed, like, sign. [01:39:47] Motion passes. [01:39:48] Next we have a board reappointment of Beverly Barnett [01:39:51] to the Land Development Review Board. [01:39:55] Mrs. Barnett has served on the Land Development Review Board [01:39:59] since 2018. [01:40:00] She has indicated an interest in continuing to serve [01:40:05] the terms of office for the Land Development Review Board [01:40:08] or also for three years. [01:40:10] And so if you determine that you would like to reappoint [01:40:13] Mrs. Barnett, her renewal would be up in June 1st of 2024. [01:40:19] Move approval. [01:40:20] Second. [01:40:23] Further discussion, anyone? [01:40:25] All those in favor, please signify by saying aye. [01:40:28] Aye. [01:40:29] Opposed, like, sign. [01:40:31] Motion passes. [01:40:33] Next is the 2021 Cody River Bike Fest [01:40:37] alcoholic beverage special event application. [01:40:42] Yes, sir, Mr. Mayor, the request before you this evening [01:40:47] is for, as you indicated, the Cody River Bike Fest [01:40:53] and Feral Cares Incorporated, [01:40:55] the organizers of the Cody River Bike Fest [01:40:59] are asking specifically for the opportunity [01:41:02] to sell beer in Sims Park on Friday, October 8th, [01:41:06] from 5 p.m. to 11 p.m. [01:41:09] On Saturday, October 9th, from 12 p.m. to 11 p.m. [01:41:14] And on Sunday, October 10th, from 1 p.m. to 5 p.m. [01:41:20] Open it up for public comment. [01:41:23] Seeing no one come forward, I'll bring it back to council. [01:41:28] Move approval. [01:41:33] Second. [01:41:35] Thank you. [01:41:37] I was wondering there. [01:41:38] We're one short up here today, aren't we? [01:41:40] I know. [01:41:41] Yes, we are. [01:41:42] A little late. [01:41:43] Bottom's up, Mr. Mayor. [01:41:44] Thank you, Mr. Murphy. [01:41:46] I'm good. [01:41:47] Mr. Peters. [01:41:50] Yeah, you know, the thing, I looked at this [01:41:54] and I've attended the bike fest in previous years, [01:42:00] but I didn't quite, what took me by surprise here [01:42:06] about the estimated attendance at peak time, [01:42:10] and it was shown to be 16,500 people. [01:42:16] Probably is. [01:42:17] And I just, you know, [01:42:21] that just kind of hit me right there. [01:42:24] They're very efficient coming in [01:42:25] on those little motorcycles, though. [01:42:27] They are. [01:42:29] Less cars. [01:42:31] As I have shared, I think, [01:42:33] every time we've approved one of these things, [01:42:35] when the very first one was issued, [01:42:38] we were told we had a bike fest [01:42:41] and that everybody was going to ride their bikes downtown. [01:42:45] So I jumped on mine and came on downtown [01:42:48] and realized to my horror, I was the only one in spandex. [01:42:52] Everybody else was in leather. [01:42:53] Everybody else was in horror, too. [01:42:56] Yeah, exactly. [01:42:58] So you made it out with your life. [01:43:00] I made it out with my life. [01:43:02] But there are, for anybody in the audience [01:43:06] that has not been to one [01:43:07] or anybody that's watching on the broadcast, [01:43:11] seriously, there are some incredible custom bikes. [01:43:15] You don't have to be a motorcycle owner to appreciate them. [01:43:20] I understand that a number of those bikes [01:43:26] run well into six figures. [01:43:28] These are, this is not your classic motorcycle gang [01:43:35] on beat-up old used Harleys. [01:43:37] These are professionals that are coming in [01:43:40] with some very, very expensive and very cool rides, [01:43:46] many of them customs. [01:43:49] So even if you don't ride, it's worth coming down [01:43:51] just to check out the bikes. [01:43:53] They're pretty neat. [01:43:55] And the outfits. [01:43:56] And the people watching is definitely good, too. [01:44:04] So we have a motion and a second. [01:44:06] Is there further discussion? [01:44:09] Hearing none, all those in favor, [01:44:10] please signify by saying aye. [01:44:12] Aye. [01:44:13] Opposed, like sign. [01:44:14] Motion passes.
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Quarterly Cash & Investment Performance Report
discussedFinance staff presented the Q2 FY2021 cash and investment performance report as of March 31, 2021, showing total cash and investments of $42,370,789, down $2.4 million from the prior quarter due to capital project expenditures including the parking garage. Staff also noted the investment policy update is underway with a consultant and the annual audit is on track for June 30 issuance.
- direction:Council tabled discussion on discontinuing the weekend closure on Railroad Square to the next meeting. (tabled)
Councilman AltmanCrystal SpeistDebbie MannsMikeMr. DavisMr. DoeMs. MannsMs. VanceAmerican Rescue FundsFY2021 AuditFlorida Municipal Investment Trust FundFlorida Prime Investment FundInvestment Policy UpdateState Board of AdministrationU.S. Treasury obligations▶ Jump to 1:44:16 in the videoShow transcriptHide transcript
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[01:44:16] Looking forward to seeing that. [01:44:18] That's going to be, I think, [01:44:19] our first really huge event post-COVID. [01:44:22] So it should be exciting. [01:44:25] Next, we have a quarterly cash [01:44:26] and investment performance report. [01:44:28] Ms. Manns? [01:44:29] Mr. Speist will be presenting the report to you, [01:44:30] Mr. Mayor. [01:44:32] Good evening. [01:44:35] I will provide you with a brief summary [01:44:37] of the city's cash and investments [01:44:40] as at the end of quarter two, [01:44:42] which would be March 31st, 2021. [01:44:49] As of March 31st, 2021, [01:44:53] the city had a total of $42,370,789. [01:45:00] in their checking and investment portfolio. [01:45:06] That balance is comprised of 9.2 million in checking, [01:45:12] 13.3 million in the State Board of Administration, [01:45:17] our Florida Prime Investment Fund, [01:45:21] 4.4 million in our Florida Municipal Investment Trust Fund, [01:45:27] and about 15.5 million in U.S. Treasury obligations. [01:45:32] The income earned during this quarter [01:45:35] was approximately 16,800. [01:45:39] If we compare that to the previous year, March of 2020, [01:45:43] it is significantly lower, [01:45:45] but comparing it to the previous quarter [01:45:48] ending December 31st, 2020, it has increased gradually. [01:45:53] And so we expect that to continue to increase [01:45:57] now that economic conditions are improving. [01:46:00] We're near the end of the pandemic, [01:46:02] or the pandemic has ended. [01:46:04] And so we do expect our income, [01:46:08] our interest income to increase moving forward. [01:46:13] Unless we have another pandemic, but. [01:46:17] I'll say that. [01:46:18] I hope that doesn't happen. [01:46:20] Um, this slide provides a visual [01:46:23] of the information I just provided in a summary. [01:46:27] So you'll see that in total, [01:46:30] the portfolio is comprised of 37% [01:46:33] coming from those U.S. Treasury obligations, [01:46:36] 31% from our Florida Prime, 22% from checking, [01:46:41] and 10% from the Florida Municipal Investment Trust. [01:46:45] And so this composition is in line [01:46:49] with the city's current investment policy. [01:46:54] And the final slide provides a change [01:46:56] from the previous quarter. [01:46:58] And you'll see that in total, [01:47:00] cash and investments did decline by 2.4 million. [01:47:06] And that's mainly, the biggest piece of that [01:47:09] is in the checking account. [01:47:11] And this past quarter, [01:47:13] we did expend funds for capital projects, [01:47:18] parking garage, obviously. [01:47:19] So we did have some big payments on capital projects. [01:47:23] So that would be the reason for the decline there. [01:47:26] And then the U.S. Treasury obligations [01:47:28] declined by about a million. [01:47:30] And during the quarter, our Treasury bills matured, [01:47:34] and then we reinvested about a million less [01:47:38] than what we had previously invested. [01:47:41] And that's just to account for, again, [01:47:43] those big capital projects that we're gonna be paying for [01:47:47] in the next quarter. [01:47:49] And I wanna end by just giving an update [01:47:52] on our investment policy update. [01:47:55] We're working with a consultant, [01:47:57] and they're about halfway through. [01:47:59] And so I should be receiving a review, a draft of that, [01:48:02] which I will provide to City Manager Manz to review. [01:48:06] And then we expect by the end of the summer [01:48:08] to have something before you. [01:48:10] I'll take any questions. [01:48:12] Thank you. [01:48:13] Where are we on audit? [01:48:14] We are in the deep of it. [01:48:19] This part here, we're going through [01:48:21] like final field work, reviews. [01:48:26] You know, a lot of my time during this period [01:48:28] is spent just dealing with the audit questions [01:48:31] and getting through it. [01:48:32] And so we're moving along and expect to have it issued [01:48:36] as we did last year, June 30th, on time. [01:48:39] Excellent. [01:48:39] Okay. [01:48:41] Thank you very much. [01:48:41] Any questions for Crystal? [01:48:44] I think the audit that you brought up, [01:48:45] it's just topically is important in the calculation [01:48:50] of the shortage of money because of the COVID. [01:48:55] You commented cash for cash, [01:48:57] although to simplify the very complex transactions [01:49:03] and funds and uses and sources of money in the city [01:49:07] by looking at our cash in the bank, [01:49:09] it's kind of, it makes me crazy [01:49:11] to try to even reconcile that in my head. [01:49:14] So I appreciate the stewardship and that, [01:49:17] but I think having less money or more, [01:49:20] it could be one quarter to next, [01:49:23] as you mentioned, capital money going out, [01:49:26] bonding coming in, taxes all collected [01:49:28] in November, December. [01:49:30] There's a million reasons for it, [01:49:33] but you've done a good job of explaining it. [01:49:36] One of the most liberal opportunities [01:49:41] for the city's use of the American Rescue Funds [01:49:43] is the differential between the revenue [01:49:47] that was collected in the fiscal year ended in 2019 [01:49:50] and the revenue collected in the fiscal year ended 2020. [01:49:54] So whatever shortage we got in sales taxes or whatever [01:49:59] comes back to this. [01:50:01] So when you get the audit done [01:50:03] and you make that calculation, [01:50:05] again, I'm going to be interested to see that [01:50:07] because the objective is to make things happen [01:50:11] as quickly as we can to help our recovery. [01:50:13] And so filing onto the earlier discussion, [01:50:17] that money doesn't have all the restrictions. [01:50:20] There's a lot more opportunity for you to say, [01:50:22] we need more maintenance crew, we need more, [01:50:25] we need to do whatever it is that you need to do. [01:50:29] So I'm really looking, again, [01:50:32] to giving you the authority to take that differential [01:50:36] and apply it in the current year in whatever way [01:50:38] will help us to keep moving forward. [01:50:40] And that may be whether it's in the planning area [01:50:44] or strategizing. [01:50:47] In my mind, working hard to understand things [01:50:50] we might go after more projects for [01:50:53] because we have three or four years [01:50:54] to use the bulk of that money [01:50:56] means that this year's budget is critical. [01:51:01] If you go apply for a grant, [01:51:03] you want to have some of these projects [01:51:04] envisioned in the budget, whatever they might be, [01:51:08] especially in the stormwater resiliency utility areas [01:51:12] where there's a billion dollars that's being [01:51:16] doled out to those who are ready to use it. [01:51:19] And I know we're just finishing that utility, [01:51:21] that sewer plant master study. [01:51:27] We got all these master studies coming in [01:51:30] and the ability for us to try to position ourself. [01:51:34] Mike, one of your early comments [01:51:36] was loving to go out and get that grant money [01:51:39] or that other stuff that's out there and available. [01:51:41] So I spoke to somebody else the other day [01:51:45] and this is the most exciting time ever [01:51:48] for us to be able to actually implement [01:51:52] strategies and plans that we've had [01:51:54] and I look forward to it, so thank you. [01:51:59] Thank you. [01:52:01] Ms. Vance, the next item is the discontinuing [01:52:04] closure on Railroad Square on weekends. [01:52:05] I believe that was the one Mr. Davis had asked. [01:52:07] We delayed that. [01:52:08] We table until your next meeting. [01:52:10] Next meeting, if we could, yeah. [01:52:13] Next is the three minute report [01:52:14] from the Public Works Department. [01:52:16] Mr. Doe is prepared to present that to you this evening. [01:52:19] Thank you, Ms. Vance. [01:52:20] Thank you, Mr. Mayor and Council. [01:52:22] And thank you for the opportunity [01:52:24] to share our Public Works activity update with you tonight. [01:52:32] So to date, for the calendar year, [01:52:35] we brought to you 33 Council agenda items [01:52:39] and have brought or participated in 11 work sessions. [01:52:44] I actually personally serve as the representative [01:52:47] for Public Works on the DRC and have reviewed [01:52:51] all 25 of the items that have been brought to DRC. [01:52:56] And I'm gonna touch on a couple of the capital [01:52:59] improvement projects just to give you all an update [01:53:01] as to where we're at with those. [01:53:03] Right now we have 22 going on, 14 in design, [01:53:07] and eight in the construction phase. [01:53:11] So as I'm sure you're all aware, [01:53:14] we've got the Nebraska Avenue parking lot [01:53:16] improvement project happening. [01:53:18] While it is definitely inconvenient [01:53:20] and it's tight over there with the temporary parking [01:53:25] and having to move a couple of the dumpsters [01:53:28] for the businesses there, they are moving fast [01:53:31] and they're on schedule to be complete in August. [01:53:36] Next shot, here's a pretty cool drone shot [01:53:39] of the parking structure. [01:53:41] And as Ms. Manns touched on, this is scheduled [01:53:43] to be finished in June. [01:53:45] So they, I mean, once that thing got going, [01:53:48] they were moving quick. [01:53:49] So a lot of progress there. [01:53:54] Next is the library renovations project. [01:53:56] Here's a shot of the outside of it [01:53:59] and they are on schedule. [01:54:00] And I looked and it's looking like December, [01:54:04] possibly November though. [01:54:05] I know that they are on schedule for completion. [01:54:08] Here's a shot of the inside. [01:54:10] Just so you all can see what's been going on in there. [01:54:13] It's a big difference and they are moving quick [01:54:16] on that project too. [01:54:17] So very exciting there. [01:54:21] And next we have Jasmine Seawall improvement project. [01:54:25] I'm sure you have all seen this [01:54:26] from one side of the river or the other. [01:54:29] And we're looking to have this job complete [01:54:32] by the beginning of September, [01:54:34] but I believe they're ahead of schedule. [01:54:36] So we're really excited to see this project [01:54:39] come to fruition and get that part [01:54:42] back up and running again. [01:54:46] As you're all aware, we just had the work session [01:54:49] on the fleet maintenance, the purchasing warehouse. [01:54:53] This is one that's currently in the design phase. [01:54:55] So we're actually, we're having a meeting tomorrow [01:54:59] in-house to go over everyone's comments [01:55:01] and on the 50% plan set and get those [01:55:04] to the engineer to incorporate those comments [01:55:07] into the plan set. [01:55:08] So really excited to get that going. [01:55:11] Because as you all saw when we were out there, [01:55:12] we definitely need the room and we need the improvement. [01:55:16] So, and then as Councilman Altman touched on, [01:55:21] one of our sewer utility projects, [01:55:24] the Orangewood improvement project, [01:55:25] you can see out here, this is a crater [01:55:28] that the contractors have. [01:55:29] And this is where one of our new lift stations, [01:55:32] one of our wet wells is going to go. [01:55:34] That's why it has to be so deep. [01:55:35] So working on and expanding the capacity [01:55:39] and hopefully getting some folks switched over [01:55:43] from septic to sewer here. [01:55:45] So lastly here, a tennis court improvement project, [01:55:51] another cool drone shot we have. [01:55:53] This project is moving right along. [01:55:55] And today they were supposed to have done the striping. [01:55:58] So some work out there on the courts themselves, [01:56:01] you should be able to see a big difference with that. [01:56:05] And they are moving right along [01:56:06] and scheduled to be done mid-July with this project. [01:56:10] So we're excited that a lot of these projects [01:56:12] are big projects, they're highly visible, [01:56:16] they're out there for the public to see, [01:56:18] but they're moving quickly [01:56:19] and they're getting done to our satisfaction. [01:56:23] So lastly, just a couple items I wanna touch on, [01:56:26] the street improvement project [01:56:29] for the 2021 Street Improvement Project. [01:56:33] We just got those plans today. [01:56:35] We're working on the review of those plans. [01:56:38] And just because we talked about it
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Discontinuing the Closure of Railroad Square on Weekends
Brief mention of street closures relating to Railroad Square weekend closures, but the transcript excerpt does not contain substantive discussion or a decision on the agenda item.
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[01:56:41] a little bit earlier in this meeting, [01:56:42] I figured I'd bring up that Kentucky Avenue, [01:56:45] Van Buren Street, Adams, Delaware, Illinois, [01:56:48] Georgia, Louisiana, some streets up River Road, Carlton,
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Three Minute Report: Public Works Department
Public Works staff gave a three-minute report covering planned road improvements (including possibly River Road), the Fire Station 2 plans going out to bid with opening July 2nd, and the hiring of new utility manager Thomas Morelli who will help review SOPs and address unfunded mandates on lead/copper and stormwater. No action was taken; council then transitioned into communications and reports.
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[01:56:54] and some of those parts of sections of Palmetto [01:56:58] are all scheduled to be, [01:57:02] those roads are scheduled to be improved [01:57:05] as you've seen in the past here, [01:57:06] similar to the other projects. [01:57:08] And I know Councilman Peters, [01:57:09] you touched on River Road, we spoke on that earlier. [01:57:13] I will look into seeing if we can incorporate [01:57:15] some of that into this year's project. [01:57:16] I'm not sure, but I'll certainly look into it for you. [01:57:20] Another big one of note is that the Fire Station 2 plans, [01:57:26] that's all out to bid. [01:57:27] So July 2nd, I believe it is, [01:57:29] is when we're going to have the bid opening in here. [01:57:31] So we're making progress on that. [01:57:35] And lastly, we have a new utility manager we've hired [01:57:40] and very encouraged after the week and a half [01:57:43] that he's been here, brings a lot of experience. [01:57:46] Him and I, his name is Thomas Morelli, [01:57:48] and him and I are going to be working on going ahead [01:57:52] and reviewing and revising a lot of our SOPs. [01:57:56] And there are some unfunded, unfortunately, [01:57:59] mandates coming down the line pertaining to utilities, [01:58:02] lead and copper, stormwater stuff [01:58:05] that we need to get ahead of the game on. [01:58:10] So going to be working with him on those items. [01:58:12] So that concludes my presentation [01:58:16] and I will do my best to answer any questions [01:58:18] you all might have. [01:58:19] Questions, anyone? [01:58:24] You get off the hook this time. [01:58:26] Thank you very much. [01:58:27] Thank you. [01:58:29] Hour two. [01:58:31] One of the most enjoyable parts of the meeting, [01:58:33] which is communications and reports, [01:58:35] which is one of the few times [01:58:37] we actually get to talk to each other. [01:58:41] Let me kick it off just with a couple of things. [01:58:44] The Chasco Fiesta car show was absolutely phenomenal. [01:58:50] And I loved the location. [01:58:54] I think far better than what we've historically done, [01:58:59] which has been to go around Orange Lake and up Sims Lane. [01:59:04] It was right downtown, the bars and restaurants [01:59:08] got the benefit of some business out of the deal. [01:59:11] And I think it was just, all in all, a much nicer place. [01:59:14] And I lucked out and actually managed to find, [01:59:18] get a spot under an oak tree. [01:59:20] So I was not totally burned by the end of the day, [01:59:24] but it was great. [01:59:25] I would ask Mr. Altman to relay to the Chasco folks [01:59:31] that that was a really, really great location, [01:59:36] really great price. [01:59:37] And I hope next year when Chasco does it [01:59:41] as part of the regular Chasco, [01:59:44] that we do it in the same place. [01:59:46] I thought it was just really, really good. [01:59:49] And we'd never really given much thought to that before, [01:59:52] but this was sort of a special one-off deal and it worked. [02:00:00] love it. In 2019, the city sponsored a Drive Electric Cruise Inn during Drive [02:00:08] Electric Week. That's from September the 25th to October the 3rd. I'd love for us [02:00:14] to sign up and do that again. Given the proximity with hurricane season, I would [02:00:21] suggest October 3rd would be the great Saturday to do that, or the second [02:00:28] whatever that Saturday is before Bike Fest. First Saturday in October. [02:00:35] If we're going to do it, it's about time to at least do the initial [02:00:42] registration with the Drive Electric folks so we get on their calendar. Two [02:00:48] years ago, I think we had 50 or 60 of cars cruise in, and it was the same [02:00:54] thing. We did it downtown. It was in the parking lot to the east of the Verizon [02:01:03] building, and then on Railroad Square. Again, it was a great way to [02:01:08] get people to come in and check out some of our local businesses. But that's it. [02:01:16] I'm still just grinning ear-to-ear from the comments that I [02:01:27] heard during the bike or the car show about how much people were loving the [02:01:33] way New Port Richey is shaping up. Mr. Peterson, anything? Not a lot, Mayor, but [02:01:39] thank you. I concur on the car show. It was wonderful. [02:01:45] From some understanding, I've gotten feedback from the Corvette Club who [02:01:51] helped put it on and so forth. They really enjoyed it, and the participants enjoyed [02:01:55] it. So, you know, I can see that thing just continue to build in future years. [02:02:00] And special thanks to the Chasco Group and all their work in getting it [02:02:06] put together and coming together is really cool. I'd just like to shout [02:02:12] out a little bit to, you know, some folks that probably don't get a lot of thanks. [02:02:21] They get more complaints than thanks, and there's some of our zoning enforcement [02:02:25] officers, right? They're not always the most welcome people when they knock on [02:02:29] your door, but sometimes when you see them knock on your neighbor's door, [02:02:35] they're very welcoming to you, right? So, just like to, you know, just let [02:02:42] those folks know that we appreciate the work they do. We know it's not always [02:02:46] easy, and we, you know, also have our residents understand when they get [02:02:51] calls and comments from those folks that, hey, it's just really the [02:02:56] betterment for the entire city and our neighbors. And so, just pass that [02:03:01] along to those folks. We appreciate their work. Thank you. Mr. Murphy. Yeah, I [02:03:06] agree with everybody on the car show. All the people that I talked to [02:03:11] loved it. They loved to have it on Grand Boulevard. It was just, I hope they [02:03:17] do it again next year, the same place. And so, I hope, you know, Patty McDermott [02:03:21] and Al listening that, you know, this construction on the parking lot in the [02:03:24] back kind of forced them out there. So, maybe they can thank us for that, and [02:03:28] they got a better spot now. Yeah, they really did. It wouldn't have been half as [02:03:32] much fun in that parking lot. No. It was really good. Pete. Yeah, as to that, I [02:03:38] think certainly Al carries a lot of the water for the Chasco Fiesta in terms [02:03:49] of being in the logistics and having to get that all set up. And particularly [02:03:54] what made it work was the cooperation of the old Shuffleboard Club, the [02:04:02] Gatsby's parking lot, the Bourbon on Main parking lot. Folks who have traditionally [02:04:07] sort of resisted. Jimmy's. Jimmy's restaurant as well. And so, there was the private [02:04:14] parking that made that fit into the scenario. And I think it's [02:04:22] probably, it's been a discussion for some time of us to get more involved in [02:04:27] the Main Street program's sort of goals and objectives so that we can line up [02:04:33] and not be, you know, accused of taking business away, you know, from the [02:04:40] downtown. And along those lines, when you talk about being forced to rethink the [02:04:47] loss of the brand-new parking lot from the Hacienda of the carnival, has a [02:04:54] number of the committee seriously considering what I've been advocating [02:05:00] for a long time, which is going back to the quaint old town type of carnival or [02:05:05] where we can maybe get our nonprofits and others to establish some of the [02:05:09] games and really make you feel like when you come to Chasco, when you lose your [02:05:14] money to the Ducks or to the Ring Toss or to whatever it might be, that it's [02:05:19] going to something positive versus having to put folks up in a parking lot [02:05:27] sitting in a horse trailer or whatever happens. Unfortunately, those [02:05:32] carnies don't have the best environments to sleep in or to hang out in as they [02:05:38] travel. So, I think rethinking the whole thing is something that's going to [02:05:42] happen in the fall, and it's probably going to be due for another visit back [02:05:46] to the council to discuss how and where some of the stuff is. But working with [02:05:52] the business community went great, and that was really a lot to do with the [02:05:58] success of it, getting that extra parking. So, I want to be an advocate for a [02:06:07] little time of us to have maybe a retreat or something. We've talked about [02:06:13] it before, but when this Muldrow plan comes out in another week or two and we [02:06:18] see all this enormous, you know, potential plans, we go to Highway 19, we've got the [02:06:25] property acquisitions that the county's going to switch with us for the bank [02:06:30] building. You know, I'm very interested in seeing us get the old West Pasco
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