Council gave final approval to a one-time 13th check for firefighter retirees (Ord. 2020-2181) and advanced Comprehensive Plan and Land Development Code rewrites covering downtown land-use categories, college zoning, and rezoning procedures on first reading.
20 items on the agenda · 17 decisions recorded
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Pledge of Allegiance
The Pledge of Allegiance was recited followed by a moment of silence in honor of servicemen and women.
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[00:00:12] I'd like to ask you all to please stand, join me in the Pledge [00:00:14] of Allegiance, and then remain standing for a moment of silence [00:00:17] in honor of our servicemen and women at home and abroad. [00:00:21] I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America [00:00:26] and to the Republic for which it stands, [00:00:28] one nation, under God, indivisible,
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Moment of Silence
The council observed a moment of silence following the Pledge of Allegiance.
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[00:00:31] with liberty and justice for all. [00:00:40] Thank you. [00:00:40] You may be seated.
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Approval of February 11, 2020 Work Session Minutes
approvedCouncil approved the February 11, 2020 Work Session Minutes by unanimous voice vote.
- motion:Approve the February 11, 2020 Work Session Minutes. (passed)
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[00:00:43] Next item on the agenda is approval [00:00:45] of the February 11th Work Session Minutes. [00:00:48] Move for approval. [00:00:48] Second. [00:00:50] Any discussion? [00:00:51] Hearing none, all those in favor, [00:00:52] please signify by saying aye. [00:00:54] Aye. Opposed, like sign. [00:00:56] Motion passes.
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Police Pension Board Minutes - January 2020
approvedon consentThe Police Pension Board minutes from January 2020 were approved as part of the consent agenda.
- motion:Motion to approve the consent agenda, including the January 2020 Police Pension Board minutes. (passed)
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[00:03:27] to deal with these nuisance and dangerous animals. [00:03:31] Thank you. [00:03:32] Thank you, John. [00:03:33] Anyone else? [00:03:36] Seeing no one else come forward, we'll close Fox Pop. [00:03:39] Next item on the agenda is the consent agenda. [00:03:43] Move for consent. [00:03:43] Second. [00:03:45] All those in favor, please signify by saying aye. [00:03:47] Aye. Aye. [00:03:48] Opposed, like sign. [00:03:50] Motion passes.
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Parks and Recreation Advisory Board Minutes - January 2020
approvedon consentThe consent agenda, which included the Parks and Recreation Advisory Board Minutes from January 2020, was approved by voice vote.
- motion:Motion to approve the consent agenda. (passed)
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[00:03:27] to deal with these nuisance and dangerous animals. [00:03:31] Thank you. [00:03:32] Thank you, John. [00:03:33] Anyone else? [00:03:36] Seeing no one else come forward, we'll close Fox Pop. [00:03:39] Next item on the agenda is the consent agenda. [00:03:43] Move for consent. [00:03:43] Second. [00:03:45] All those in favor, please signify by saying aye. [00:03:47] Aye. Aye. [00:03:48] Opposed, like sign. [00:03:50] Motion passes.
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Cultural Affairs Committee Minutes - January 2020
approvedon consentThe Cultural Affairs Committee minutes from January 2020 were approved as part of the consent agenda.
- motion:Motion to approve the consent agenda, including the January 2020 Cultural Affairs Committee minutes. (passed)
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[00:03:27] to deal with these nuisance and dangerous animals. [00:03:31] Thank you. [00:03:32] Thank you, John. [00:03:33] Anyone else? [00:03:36] Seeing no one else come forward, we'll close Fox Pop. [00:03:39] Next item on the agenda is the consent agenda. [00:03:43] Move for consent. [00:03:43] Second. [00:03:45] All those in favor, please signify by saying aye. [00:03:47] Aye. Aye. [00:03:48] Opposed, like sign. [00:03:50] Motion passes.
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Purchases/Payments for City Council Approval
approvedon consentCouncil approved the consent agenda, which included purchases/payments for City Council approval, by unanimous voice vote.
- motion:Motion to approve the consent agenda. (passed)
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[00:03:27] to deal with these nuisance and dangerous animals. [00:03:31] Thank you. [00:03:32] Thank you, John. [00:03:33] Anyone else? [00:03:36] Seeing no one else come forward, we'll close Fox Pop. [00:03:39] Next item on the agenda is the consent agenda. [00:03:43] Move for consent. [00:03:43] Second. [00:03:45] All those in favor, please signify by saying aye. [00:03:47] Aye. Aye. [00:03:48] Opposed, like sign. [00:03:50] Motion passes.
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Second Reading, Ordinance No. 2020-2181: Amendments to Firefighters' Pension Ordinance RE: 13th Check
approvedCouncil held the second and final reading of Ordinance 2020-2181, amending the Firefighters' Retirement System to provide a one-time supplemental 13th check benefit to retirees receiving benefits as of October 1, 2009. The city contribution required is $6,187 from the General Fund, and the plan has a healthy 92.6% vested benefit ratio. The ordinance passed unanimously on a voice vote.
Ord. Ordinance No. 2020-2181
- motion:Motion to approve Ordinance 2020-2181 amending the Firefighters' Pension Ordinance to provide a one-time 13th check supplemental benefit. (passed)
Altman13th Check supplemental benefitArticle 3 of Chapter 17Firefighters' Retirement SystemOrdinance 2020-2181Section 17-41▶ Jump to 3:51 in the videoShow transcriptHide transcript
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[00:03:51] Next is public reading of ordinances. [00:03:53] Second reading, Ordinance 2020-2181. [00:03:57] Ordinance number 2020-2181, an ordinance of the City of New Port Richey, Florida, [00:04:01] providing for amendment of Article 3 of Chapter 17 of the Code of Ordinances of the City [00:04:06] of New Port Richey pertaining to the Firefighter's Retirement System, [00:04:09] providing for amendment of Section 17-41, Benefit Amounts and Eligibility to Provide [00:04:14] for Supplemental Benefit, 13th Check, providing for severability of provisions, [00:04:19] providing for codification, repealing all ordinances in conflict here [00:04:22] with and providing an effective date. [00:04:26] As has been indicated by the City Attorney, this is the second reading and a final reading [00:04:31] of an ordinance that effectuates a benefit change, a one-time benefit change in the form [00:04:37] of a supplemental benefit payment to the members [00:04:40] of the New Port Richey Firefighter's Retirement System [00:04:44] that were receiving a benefit from the plan on October 1st, 2009. [00:04:51] The, it should be noted that no form of a cost of living increase has ever been afforded [00:04:58] to this class of retiree. [00:05:01] The one-time check requires a contribution from the city in the amount of $6,187 [00:05:11] and there is appropriate funding available in the City's General Fund [00:05:15] to support the expenditure. [00:05:17] The reason that any amount of funding is required relates to the vested benefit ratio [00:05:23] of the plan, which is currently 92.6, so it's a very healthy plan. [00:05:28] Thank you. [00:05:28] I'll open it up for public comment. [00:05:32] Seeing no one come forward, bring it back to Council. [00:05:34] Move for approval. [00:05:37] Second. [00:05:38] Maker? [00:05:39] Nothing. [00:05:39] Do a second. [00:05:40] No. [00:05:41] Deputy Mayor? [00:05:42] No comments. [00:05:42] Mr. Altman? [00:05:44] In that case, all those in favor, please signify by saying aye. [00:05:47] Aye. [00:05:48] Opposed, like sign. [00:05:49] Motion passes.
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Second Reading, Ordinance No. 2020-2180: Repealing Ordinance No. 2019-2055 RE: Conditional Use Application for 5780 Main Street (eCarve LLC)
approvedCouncil adopted on second reading Ordinance 2020-2180, repealing Ordinance 2019-2055 (referenced in transcript as 2019-2155), which had granted a conditional use for eCarve LLC's scooter rental and sales operation at 5780 Main Street. The applicant vacated that location and obtained a new conditional use permit at 5707 Main Street, making the original ordinance unnecessary.
Ord. Ordinance No. 2020-2180
- motion:Motion to approve second reading of Ordinance 2020-2180 repealing Ordinance 2019-2055 regarding the conditional use application for 5780 Main Street. (passed)
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[00:05:50] Next is second reading ordinance 2020-2180. [00:05:54] Ordinance number 2020-2180, an ordinance of the City of New Port Richey, Florida, [00:05:57] providing for appeal of ordinance number 2019-2155 and providing for an effective date. [00:06:04] As you all are aware, Mr. Mayor, members of the City Council, [00:06:08] an applicant presented themselves to us earlier this year, ECAR LLC, [00:06:14] for the purpose of obtaining a conditional use application for a scooter rental [00:06:22] and sales operation at 5780 Main Street. [00:06:26] Since that time, he has vacated that premise and moved to 5707 Main Street [00:06:33] and subsequently has received a conditional use permit for operation at that address. [00:06:40] The purpose of this ordinance is to repeal the original ordinance for 5780 Main Street. [00:06:47] Thank you. [00:06:48] Open up for public comment. [00:06:51] Seeing no one come forward, bring it back to Council. [00:06:53] Move for approval. [00:06:54] Second. [00:06:55] To the Maker? [00:06:56] Nothing. [00:06:56] Second. [00:06:57] No, sir. [00:06:58] Deputy Mayor? [00:06:58] No comments, thank you. [00:07:00] Councilman? [00:07:00] Nothing. [00:07:01] Okay, so all those in favor, please signify by saying aye. [00:07:04] Aye. [00:07:05] Opposed? [00:07:05] Like sign? [00:07:06] Motion passes. [00:07:07] Next, first reading ordinance 2020-2182.
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First Reading, Ordinance No. 2020-2182: Amendments to Chapter 5, Rezonings, Variances, Special Exceptions of the LDC
approvedCouncil held first reading of Ordinance 2020-2182, which amends Chapter 5 of the Land Development Code to add guidelines for rezonings and LDC amendments, and corrects a codification error related to special exceptions and variances. City Attorney Menz introduced and Earl Hahn presented; the motion for approval passed unanimously on voice vote with no public comment.
Ord. Ordinance No. 2020-2182
- motion:Motion to approve Ordinance 2020-2182 on first reading, amending Chapter 5 of the Land Development Code regarding rezonings, variances, and special exceptions. (passed)
AltmanEarl HahnMenzMurphy2030 Future Land UseChapter 5 Land Development CodeLand Development Review BoardOrdinance No. 2020-2182Section 5.01.00Section 5.01.11Section 5.03.03(B)Section 5.04.00▶ Jump to 7:08 in the videoShow transcriptHide transcript
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[00:07:12] This is ordinance 2020-2182, an ordinance of the City of New Port Richey, Florida, [00:07:16] amending Chapter 5 of the Land Development Code pertaining to rezoning, variances, [00:07:19] and special exceptions, providing for amendment of Section 5.01.00 thereof pertaining [00:07:25] to rezonings by adding Section 5.01.11 thereto, providing for guidelines for granting [00:07:31] a rezoning, providing for repeal of Section 5.03.03 subparagraph B thereof pertaining [00:07:39] to special exceptions, providing for a new Section 5.04.00, providing for guidelines [00:07:46] for amendments to the Land Development Code, providing for conflicts, providing [00:07:50] for severability, and providing for an effective date. [00:07:53] Ms. Menz? [00:07:54] In this respect, Mr. [00:07:56] Mayor, we have a recommendation before you that has been viewed by the Land Development [00:08:02] Review Board. [00:08:04] In short, the purpose of which is to establish guidelines related to rezonings and changes [00:08:13] in the zoning district map. [00:08:16] As I'm sure you may be wondering, we have always used standards, but we have not had [00:08:20] any guidelines in the ordinance, and Mr. [00:08:22] Hahn has prepared a presentation in that respect, which outline the proposed changes. [00:08:31] Thank you. [00:08:32] For the record, my name is Earl Hahn, and the city attorney just read the title of the [00:08:36] ordinance. [00:08:37] And just by way of background, we had received a rezoning application, and when we [00:08:43] looked at it, I noticed that there weren't guidelines in the same way that we had them [00:08:46] for special exceptions and for variances. [00:08:49] So when we looked at those provisions, I did confirm that there are provisions for [00:08:54] variances and special exceptions, but not for rezonings and Land Development Code [00:08:59] amendments. [00:09:00] So what we've done is we've come in with an ordinance that has four substantive [00:09:05] sections, and then the three procedural ones, which are severability, codification, and [00:09:09] effective date. [00:09:11] In the first section, all we're doing there is amending the title to add the words [00:09:14] Land Development Code amendments. [00:09:17] The second part is a sub-consecutive section of the ordinance has the guidelines for [00:09:21] rezoning. [00:09:22] There's a total of 10 of them. [00:09:24] I think the number four here is an important one. [00:09:27] It's whether the proposed zoning district is premature based on the character of the [00:09:32] existing land use pattern. [00:09:34] Sometimes, as you know, the future land use is a future land use, the 2030, and [00:09:38] somebody might come in and say, well, I've got a zoning district, and I want it to be [00:09:42] consistent with the future land use map. [00:09:44] This gives you an opportunity to say no, the characteristics of the area aren't ripe at [00:09:50] this time to be able to do that. [00:09:51] You need to wait a few years for that to occur. [00:09:55] Then there's the other seven that are here. [00:09:58] Another one that's important is number eight, whether there's substantial public [00:10:02] purpose or need. [00:10:06] So many instances, if you want to put in a fire station or some other use, and the [00:10:11] neighbors might complain about it and claim that it's spot zoning, this gives you the [00:10:15] ability to say, yes, although there are other zoning districts that are similar to [00:10:19] that in the neighborhood, there's an outstanding public need that overrides that. [00:10:24] And then the last one, number 10, is the totality of the circumstances. [00:10:28] This is just a list, and it doesn't, it's not like a, that's just because you meet [00:10:34] seven of them and you don't meet four of them. [00:10:36] It doesn't mean like it's a final score, seven to four. [00:10:39] You get to decide how important each one of those factors are. [00:10:42] So you can find that even though it only meets three of the seven, it doesn't meet, [00:10:48] let me step back, even if it meets eight of the factors, but it doesn't meet three of [00:10:51] them, you can say those three outweigh the other seven and you can vote against the [00:10:55] rezoning or in support of it. [00:10:57] So that provides you with some flexibility. [00:10:59] And then the next part is just dealing with the, this one just repeals the, there's a [00:11:08] section here, section B, this one relates to special exceptions when, if you look [00:11:13] back, this section is dealing with variances. [00:11:15] So that's just the codification error that we're cleaning up. [00:11:18] And then finally, we have procedures for amending the land development code. [00:11:24] And I'm not going to spend a lot of time on it. [00:11:25] There's information in your package about it, but basically provides for an [00:11:29] application review, and then there's just two criteria or guidelines, whether you [00:11:33] need it and whether it's consistent with the plan. [00:11:36] And there's a staff report that's required in action on that. [00:11:39] So if you have any questions, I'd be glad to answer them. [00:11:46] Hearing none, thank you. [00:11:48] This is public hearing. [00:11:49] We'll open it up for public comment. [00:11:52] Seeing no one come forward, bring it back to council. [00:11:56] Move for approval. [00:11:59] Second. [00:11:59] To the maker. [00:12:00] Okay. [00:12:01] I think we're going to find rural help here helping us out, getting this straightened [00:12:04] down in quite a few places. [00:12:06] Second. [00:12:07] Thank you. [00:12:07] Thank you. [00:12:09] Mr. [00:12:09] Altman? [00:12:10] No, sir. [00:12:10] Mr. [00:12:11] Murphy? [00:12:12] Nope. [00:12:12] Nothing here. [00:12:13] In that case, all those in favor, please signify by saying aye. [00:12:15] Aye. [00:12:16] Opposed? [00:12:17] Like sign. [00:12:18] Motion passes.
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First Reading, Ordinance No. 2020-2184: Comp Plan Amendment RE: Table FLU 1.1.3., Future Land Use Categories and Revising the Downtown, Downtown Core and Highway Commercial Categories
approvedFirst reading of Ordinance 2020-2184 amending the 2030 Comprehensive Plan future land use element, revising the Downtown, Downtown Core, and Highway Commercial categories. Changes include replacing 'transient accommodation' with 'public accommodation,' allowing parking lots/structures, increasing density via FAR-to-residential conversion (up to 25 du/ac downtown, 50 du/ac downtown core) and transfer of development rights, and creating an exception from the residential component requirement for public/semi-public uses—primarily to facilitate the Kaiser project. Passed on first reading.
Ord. Ordinance No. 2020-2184
- motion:Move for approval of Ordinance 2020-2184 on first reading. (passed)
- vote:Voice vote to approve first reading of Ordinance 2020-2184. (passed)
MadisonRiver RoadCanesSunTrustAldermanDr. CadelDriscollEarl HahnVance2030 Comprehensive PlanBurt Harris claimsDowntown Core categoryDowntown categoryFuture Land Use ElementHighway Commercial categoryKaiser projectLand Development Review Board recommendation (Feb 20, unanimous)Ordinance No. 2020-2184Planned Unit DevelopmentTable FLU 1.1.3Transfer of Development Rights program▶ Jump to 12:20 in the videoShow transcriptHide transcript
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[00:12:20] Next is first reading ordinance 2020-2184, comp prime amendment. [00:12:25] This is ordinance number 2020-2184, an ordinance of the city of New Port Richey, Florida, amending the 2030 comprehensive plan, future land use [00:12:32] element, amending table FLU 1.1.3, future land use categories, and revising [00:12:39] the downtown, downtown core and highway commercial categories by modifying [00:12:43] primary and secondary uses, increasing gross density through the conversion [00:12:47] of floor area ratio and the transfer of development rights, creating an [00:12:51] exception for public, semi-public uses and making editorial corrections, [00:12:55] providing for conflict, providing for severability and providing for an [00:12:58] effective date. [00:12:59] Thank you. [00:13:00] Ms. [00:13:00] Vance? [00:13:01] As Mr. [00:13:02] Driscoll has indicated, there are three purposes attached to this ordinance [00:13:06] and Mr. [00:13:07] Hahn has also prepared a PowerPoint presentation for this agenda item. [00:13:12] Thank you. [00:13:12] For the record, Earl Hahn, the city attorney has already read the title. [00:13:16] This is the change that's being made to this table. [00:13:19] The first change is to the wording where it says transient accommodation. [00:13:24] We know we don't want transient accommodations here. [00:13:26] We had an ordinance that did that. [00:13:28] So we're changing the wording to make that public accommodations also for the [00:13:32] downtown and these amendments are to assist with the Kaiser. [00:13:36] It allows parking lots and structures. [00:13:38] There was nothing in there that said that you had the ability to do that. [00:13:41] And then what we're looking at also is increasing the density here by allowing [00:13:45] a conversion from your floor area ratio, which is your commercial to residential. [00:13:51] And there's a conversion factor for that. [00:13:53] And then there was also a requirement that sites greater than one acre are [00:13:57] required to incorporate a residential component that would prevent the Kaiser [00:14:02] property from a project from coming through. [00:14:04] So we're creating an exception for uses that are public and semi-public uses. [00:14:09] Then the area that it would be applied to is the part that's the downtown. [00:14:13] This is the one that's shown in the, see if I have the pointer here, [00:14:16] this very dark green area. [00:14:20] And the next one is some changes to the downtown core. [00:14:25] Again, we made the same kind of changes dealing with the changing transient to [00:14:29] public accommodation and adding parking lots. [00:14:32] And then we've also have a conversion for residential, commercial to residential. [00:14:41] And this density allows up to 50 dwelling units per acre in the downtown core area. [00:14:45] So you're going to need more density in the downtown if you're going to be able [00:14:49] to keep all the businesses thriving. [00:14:51] Again, the downtown core area is the part here that's shown in the green. [00:15:00] This is the downtown core. [00:15:02] And then finally, we're making changes [00:15:05] to the highway commercial. [00:15:07] Again, this is very similar to the other ones [00:15:09] that there is a change from transient to public [00:15:13] accommodation to add public and semi-public uses, [00:15:16] because that wasn't allowed in there before, [00:15:18] to add parking structures. [00:15:20] And so we've made that, and we've taken away [00:15:22] as a secondary use the public, semi-public, [00:15:25] and made it into a primary use. [00:15:28] And again, you can see that this applies [00:15:31] to the downtown district. [00:15:33] Oops. [00:15:36] Highway commercial. [00:15:37] I'm sorry. [00:15:38] I'm going the wrong way. [00:15:43] And as you can see, the Kaiser includes an element of here [00:15:49] that's downtown, that's highway commercial and downtown. [00:15:52] So these amendments address that, primarily [00:15:54] to assist in moving that site forward. [00:15:57] That concludes my presentation. [00:15:58] Mr. Mayor, it should additionally [00:16:00] be noted that the Land Development Review [00:16:01] Board did consider this matter at their meeting [00:16:04] on February 20, and they recommended unanimously [00:16:07] in favor. [00:16:08] Thank you very much. [00:16:09] Any questions? [00:16:10] Could we look at that last map again, the highway map? [00:16:17] I know the areas that are not painted in [00:16:19] are because they're not the city limits, [00:16:20] so that explains some of those white areas there, which is. [00:16:24] This is all that's showing on there in the downtown, [00:16:27] at the highway commercial, going through here. [00:16:29] And then we highlighted here for the area that's for the Kaiser. [00:16:40] OK. [00:16:43] The area on River Road to the west, [00:16:48] which would encompass the property owned by the city [00:16:52] that we just talked about today earlier at the work session, [00:16:54] that's in a light purple. [00:16:56] Is that future land use map? [00:17:02] That is also this part that's in the light purple, [00:17:06] that is low density residential. [00:17:10] So that's five dwelling units per acre. [00:17:13] So if we've talked earlier today about the fact [00:17:18] that we believe that potentially our city's public property, church [00:17:22] property, may become part of a larger development, why are we not? [00:17:28] Is there a reason why we're not? [00:17:30] I know this is highway commercial, and I [00:17:31] guess that wouldn't be caused highway commercial, [00:17:33] although it backs up to the SunTrust building [00:17:37] and to, I think, a few other commercial. [00:17:40] But effectively, a lot of what's on the west side of River Road [00:17:44] is, in fact, highway commercial, as that width between River and 19 [00:17:50] narrows as you get towards Canes and the corner where the drive-through was, [00:17:54] I think, that we just demolished a while back. [00:17:57] So I'm not sure, have we not thought about that? [00:18:01] Or would that be a future change if we don't get it in our future land [00:18:05] use to make it available for that density? [00:18:08] In response to the question, we have thought about that. [00:18:11] But based on the fact that we don't have a specific development proposal, [00:18:16] we didn't want to change the future land use. [00:18:19] But we do suspect that when a project is proposed for that property, [00:18:25] it likely would be on a planned unit development basis. [00:18:29] Allow you to go into that area. [00:18:31] Thank you. [00:18:32] Any other questions? [00:18:34] Public hearing, I'll open it up for public comment. [00:18:38] Seeing no one come forward, bring it back to council. [00:18:42] Move for approval. [00:18:43] Second. [00:18:44] The maker. [00:18:46] We're increasing density in parking in that area. [00:18:50] Are we increasing the density in the parking downtown as well? [00:18:55] Yes, we're increasing the density in the downtown. [00:18:57] In that whole green area then? [00:18:58] Yes. [00:18:59] OK, thank you. [00:19:01] I just want to make sure it was the whole thing. [00:19:04] We'll just follow up on that. [00:19:06] What's the density going to go to? [00:19:09] The density in the downtown core will go up to 50. [00:19:11] And the way that you would do that is there's still the 25 that's there. [00:19:15] But then you're allowed a floor area ratio of 2, which if you have 1 acre, [00:19:20] it means that you could have 2 acres worth of commercial on there. [00:19:24] Well, if you don't want to use all of that commercial, [00:19:26] if you're only going to use a portion of it, [00:19:28] you can exchange your commercial for residential. [00:19:32] And there's a ratio. [00:19:33] So in one of them, it's 0.1 to 1 unit. [00:19:39] And in the other one, it's 0.1 to 0.75. [00:19:44] So in the downtown area, you can get up to 25 dwelling units per acre. [00:19:49] In the downtown core, up to 50. [00:19:51] There's also a provision for transfer of development rights. [00:19:55] In the downtown core, you can only get up to 40 dwelling units [00:19:58] by making the exchange, the conversion. [00:20:01] But if you want to get those other 10 units, [00:20:03] you need to get that through the transfer of development rights program. [00:20:07] And right now, the one that we have is not very well developed. [00:20:11] But we're looking at some other areas where perhaps that we can award. [00:20:16] And one of the issues that was raised by Dr. Cadel [00:20:21] was that you have all these uses on the other side of the river road that [00:20:26] are not very attractive. [00:20:27] And he feels that they destroy the value of the homes that are on the river. [00:20:32] And he was looking, is there some kind of way [00:20:34] that we create some kind of incentive for those properties to be converted? [00:20:38] And so one of the ways would be to allow a transfer of development rights. [00:20:41] Give those persons extra density. [00:20:45] But it can only be used if you tear down what you've got there now. [00:20:49] And then you take it to an area where you're allowed to use it. [00:20:51] So this would be an area where you wouldn't. [00:20:54] The idea being, if I'm a developer downtown [00:20:57] and I want to get some extra units, what I'll do [00:20:59] is I'll go buy the unit, and then tear it down, build a house, [00:21:03] and then go use those extra density units downtown. [00:21:06] And so that little by little, and this helps [00:21:08] avoid the takings issue and the Burt Harris claims. [00:21:11] Little by little, developers will go in, redevelop nice units [00:21:16] on that side of the river, while at the same time getting extra density. [00:21:21] Thank you. [00:21:22] One other question. [00:21:25] Is this changing anything in the second phase of the central [00:21:31] and their density, as far as parking? [00:21:34] If they choose, it would allow them, yes. [00:21:36] If they chose, they wanted to come back. [00:21:38] And if they're in the downtown district, I don't know if they are or not. [00:21:42] But if they chose to expand their site and get property that's downtown, [00:21:48] they could take advantage of this process. [00:21:50] There's also another person who has a small development on Madison [00:21:55] that's close to the hospital. [00:21:57] And he's looking at building a mixed-use development. [00:22:00] And this would allow him to be able to build with the higher density. [00:22:05] Thank you. [00:22:06] Excuse me. [00:22:07] Thank you for the clarification. [00:22:08] I love Dr. Cato's methodology of using this as a tool, [00:22:14] because all throughout the city, especially in the North, [00:22:16] well, not especially, but in the North River neighborhood, [00:22:19] we have beautiful homes. [00:22:20] And it's where I live, and people that take care, [00:22:23] homeowners that take care of their homes. [00:22:25] And then we have slumlords that own duplexes and triplexes [00:22:29] that are turning a blind eye as long as they're getting rent. [00:22:32] So this is a really, really good tool, from what I'm hearing, [00:22:35] what I've read, to help alleviate those issues. [00:22:38] If we have a developer who wants to develop and use some more density [00:22:41] downtown, buy a triplex, tear it down, a run-down one, put a nice house up. [00:22:46] I love the sound of it. [00:22:48] Thank you. [00:22:49] Mr. Alderman? [00:22:51] Sounds like it's moving forward with progress. [00:22:56] Very good. [00:22:57] There's no further discussion. [00:22:59] All those in favor, please signify by saying aye. [00:23:01] Aye. [00:23:02] Opposed, like sign. [00:23:04] Motion passes.
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First Reading, Ordinance No. 2020-2185: Amendments to Chapter 7, Zoning of the LDC
approvedFirst reading of Ordinance 2020-2185 amending Land Development Code Chapter 7 to allow a university or college in the Highway Commercial zoning district and a single university or college in the Downtown zoning district, and adding a definition of university or college. The change accommodates Keiser University, which currently spans both districts. The ordinance passed unanimously on first reading.
Ord. Ordinance No. 2020-2185
- motion:Motion to approve first reading of Ordinance 2020-2185 amending LDC Chapter 7 to allow university or college uses in Highway Commercial and Downtown zoning districts. (passed)
Keiser UniversityLand Development Review BoardEarl HahnVanceDowntown zoning districtHighway Commercial zoning districtLDC Section 2.01.00LDC Section 7.09.01LDC Section 7.11.01Ordinance 2020-2185▶ Jump to 23:05 in the videoShow transcriptHide transcript
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[00:23:05] Next, first reading ordinance 2020-2185. [00:23:09] This is ordinance number 2020-2185, an ordinance [00:23:12] of the city of New Port Richey, Florida, amending Land Development Code chapter [00:23:15] 7 zoning, amending Land Development Code section 7.09.01 on permitted uses [00:23:21] to allow within the highway commercial zoning district a university or college, [00:23:25] amending Land Development Code section 7.11.01 on permitted uses [00:23:30] to allow within the downtown zoning district a single university or college, [00:23:34] amending Land Development Code section 2.01.00 to add a definition of university [00:23:40] or college, providing for complex, providing for severability, [00:23:43] and providing for an effective date. [00:23:46] Very good. [00:23:46] Ms. Vance? [00:23:47] Mr. Hahn? [00:23:49] Yes, thank you. [00:23:50] For the record, my name is Earl Hahn. [00:23:52] And if we would put the PowerPoint presentation up. [00:23:56] So this is the title that was just read into the record. [00:24:00] And so the change here is that what we're adding here [00:24:03] is the words university or college. [00:24:06] As you know, the Kaiser University has two zoning districts, one highway [00:24:09] commercial, the other one downtown. [00:24:11] So this change would allow a university or college [00:24:15] to occur in the highway commercial zoning district. [00:24:19] And again, there's the map showing the map in the highway commercial zoning. [00:24:24] I'm going the wrong way. [00:24:26] I'm challenged this morning, this afternoon. [00:24:28] OK, then there's the property. [00:24:30] So you can see that's the part that's highway commercial. [00:24:34] And then in the downtown, this one has a long list of items. [00:24:38] But then we go all the way down here, and then we [00:24:40] put university or college, but restricted to one [00:24:42] within the downtown zoning district. [00:24:44] That generated some conversation as to why only one. [00:24:48] The idea being that we want to maintain the integrity of the downtown [00:24:51] as a commercial area. [00:24:52] And so we're going to have 40,000 square feet of non-commercial use in there. [00:24:57] So we wanted to limit it to one. [00:24:59] Now, if I decided that I wanted to open up [00:25:01] Earl's University of Tarot Cards or Occult Sciences, [00:25:08] then you'd say, no, we don't want that, and we're going to keep that. [00:25:11] But if all of a sudden Harvard University said, [00:25:13] we want to open up a school of design, then [00:25:15] you could just remove that one dwelling unit per acre. [00:25:19] The other alternative would have been to go to a special exception process [00:25:23] to have it listed as that, and we didn't [00:25:25] feel that that would show good faith with the Kaiser folks. [00:25:29] So we chose to do it through this mechanism. [00:25:32] And then finally, the last thing that we did [00:25:34] is we added a definition of what a university or college is, [00:25:37] because the Land Development Code does not provide that definition. [00:25:40] And that concludes my presentation. [00:25:42] Questions? [00:25:43] By the way, this was also unanimously approved, [00:25:46] recommended for approval by the Land Development Review Board. [00:25:49] Thank you. [00:25:50] I'll open it up for public comment. [00:25:53] Seeing no one come forward, bring it back to council. [00:25:56] Move for approval. [00:25:57] Second. [00:25:58] To the maker. [00:25:59] Nothing. [00:26:00] Second. [00:26:01] Jobbers are nuts. [00:26:02] University's out. [00:26:06] Deputy Mayor? [00:26:07] No comments, thank you. [00:26:08] Mr. Altman? [00:26:09] No, sir. [00:26:12] Just an observation, this will make Kaiser legal [00:26:14] since they're in the Highway Commercial District now as a university. [00:26:18] So probably a good thing. [00:26:21] If there's no further discussion, all those in favor, [00:26:23] please signify by saying aye. [00:26:25] Aye. [00:26:25] Aye. [00:26:26] Opposed, like sign. [00:26:27] Motion passes. [00:26:28] Next, board reappointments.
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Board Re-Appointments: Lisa Marie Dolcy and Ruth Ann Jackson, Cultural Affairs Committee
approvedCouncil reappointed Lisa Marie Dolcy and Ruth Ann Jackson to the Cultural Affairs Committee for two-year terms expiring March 6, 2022.
- motion:Motion to approve the reappointment of Lisa Marie Dolcy and Ruth Ann Jackson to the Cultural Affairs Committee for terms ending March 6, 2022. (passed)
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[00:26:30] Lisa Marie Dulcey and Ruth Ann Jackson to the Cultural Affairs Committee. [00:26:35] Yes, Mr. Mayor. [00:26:36] Both appointments for the ladies are due to elapse on March 6, 2020. [00:26:43] The terms of office for the Cultural Affairs Committee [00:26:48] is a two-year period of time. [00:26:49] Therefore, if you approve the staff's recommendation on their reappointment, [00:26:55] their term of office would span through March 6, 2022. [00:27:00] Thank you. [00:27:00] Are either of the ladies in the audience? [00:27:03] Ms. Jackson was present at your 5 o'clock meeting, [00:27:06] but needed to leave as a result of the fact that she had a work commitment. [00:27:12] And I don't believe that Lisa Marie Dulcey is in attendance. [00:27:17] You're going to open it up for public comment? [00:27:19] Seeing none, I'll bring it back to council. [00:27:21] Move for approval. [00:27:23] Second. [00:27:24] The maker. [00:27:25] I did thank Ruth Ann, and she's actually volunteering tonight at a school. [00:27:32] Thank you. [00:27:33] Second. [00:27:34] Thank you. [00:27:37] Deputy Mayor? [00:27:38] Thank you for your service. [00:27:39] Yes, let me add my thank you if you happen to be watching it on the internet. [00:27:44] Thank you very, very much for your service to the community. [00:27:48] If there's no further discussion, all those in favor, please signify by saying aye. [00:27:51] Aye. [00:27:52] Opposed, like sign. [00:27:54] Motion passes.
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2020 Chasco Fiesta Alcoholic Beverage Special Event
approvedCouncil reviewed the Chasco Fiesta 2020 application to sell beer and wine in Sims Park on nine event dates between March 27 and April 4, 2020. After extensive discussion regarding fencing of the park, security, the Main Street car show, and the impact on the park, council approved the alcoholic beverage special event permit.
- vote:Approve the Chasco Fiesta 2020 alcoholic beverage special event permit to sell beer and wine in Sims Park on the requested dates and times. (passed)
6041 Florida AvenueCavalier ParkMain StreetRailroad SquareSims LaneSims ParkChasco FiestaGoDaddyRuth Eckerd HallSenator Rubio's officeAllmanBobbyBruce Adam Rohrabach, Jr.ChopperChuck RayDriscollJohn CainMurphyPatti DermerStarkeyBike FestChasco Fiesta 2020Grateful Dead nightHernandez HideawaySET Committee (Special Event Team)▶ Jump to 27:55 in the videoShow transcriptHide transcript
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[00:27:55] Next, 2020 Chasco Fiesta Alcoholic Beverage Special Event. [00:28:00] The special event team, Mr. Mayor, [00:28:02] meant to review the application for the alcoholic beverage special event application for Chasco Fiesta 2020. [00:28:11] They did so at their meeting on January 14th. [00:28:15] And Chasco Fiesta is requesting to sell beer and wine in Sims Park on Friday, March 27th from 5 p.m. to 11 p.m. [00:28:25] On Saturday, March 28th from 1 p.m. to 11 p.m. [00:28:30] On Sunday, March 29th from 1 p.m. to 11 p.m. [00:28:35] On Monday, March 30th from 5 p.m. to 10 p.m. [00:28:40] On March 31st, 5 p.m. to 10 p.m. [00:28:45] Wednesday, April 1st, 5 p.m. to 10 p.m. [00:28:49] Thursday, April 2nd, 5 p.m. to 10 p.m. [00:28:53] Friday, April 3rd, 5 p.m. to 11 p.m. [00:28:56] And on Saturday, April 4th from 1 p.m. to 11 p.m. [00:29:01] They are indicating that they would like to sell beer and wine from three locations in the park [00:29:09] and that they will provide a liquor liability policy, naming the city as additionally assured. [00:29:16] They have worked with two not-for-profit organizations in order to comply with the ordinance [00:29:25] and to allow nonprofits to sell the beer and wine. [00:29:28] And with that being said, the SET Committee has recommended in favor of approval of their request to sell alcohol on the dates and times as stated. [00:29:40] Open it up for public comment. [00:29:47] John Cain, 6041 Florida Avenue. [00:29:51] I remember after the last CHASCO, some work sessions and [00:30:00] I remember the deputy mayor stating something that I thought was pretty significant. [00:30:05] He said that the city would have to make up their mind what they wanted out of the park. [00:30:11] We either want a public park or we want a carnival grounds. [00:30:18] And that to combine the two sometimes is extremely problematic. [00:30:23] Our services get taxed severely. [00:30:28] The issue with the grass has been brought up multiple times. [00:30:32] Public works is as shorthanded as it is and gets more than taxed in this and then later [00:30:39] has to put the park back together. [00:30:42] I guess I have a combination of comments here. [00:30:44] It's not just dealing with the idea of liquor in a public park. [00:30:48] But it's the idea of Chasco and I'm by no means against Chasco. [00:30:53] It seemed like we were coming along with a plan that was going along with everything [00:30:59] else that's been going along in this city. [00:31:01] How we're progressing, how we're breaking out of our trends and we're doing things differently. [00:31:07] And it seems like after all those meetings and work sessions, we're really not. [00:31:13] Because I'm hearing that there's going to be even more food vendors within the park [00:31:18] even though we discussed a lot of different things to do with food vendors. [00:31:23] Because that's the main damage that's done to the grass really or the food vendors. [00:31:29] And we discussed all these areas, these open areas that we don't utilize. [00:31:35] Railroad Square, Cavalier Park. [00:31:39] It just seems to me like there was a plan in motion that went nowhere. [00:31:44] And I don't know how it's really done as far as approval goes with you people. [00:31:49] I don't know if you get at what point, because I usually come to most of the meetings and [00:31:53] work sessions. [00:31:54] I don't remember seeing a Chasco coming here showing you the exact plan. [00:31:58] I know it's in this for you to look at, but I don't know if you know what kind of fence [00:32:03] is going up around the park, how long it will be there, and all the other options that are [00:32:08] coming into play. [00:32:10] So it's really tough to stand here and present everything that's in my head on this as the [00:32:16] clock ticks away. [00:32:17] But we have spent a lot of time on this subject, and I find it really disappointing that we [00:32:22] didn't expand this. [00:32:24] The crowds could have been segregated a little bit more, for lack of a better term, in terms [00:32:30] of people interested in food and vendors selling clothing. [00:32:34] And it would have, I think, created a little more order. [00:32:37] But we didn't go for that plan. [00:32:39] And I do find that disappointing. [00:32:41] And thank you for your time as the clock ticks away. [00:32:44] You've got six seconds. [00:32:47] Anyone else? [00:32:48] Hello. [00:32:49] Sorry. [00:32:50] Hello to the Council. [00:32:51] I'm Patti Dermer. [00:32:52] I'm the Executive Director of the Chasco Fiesta. [00:32:53] I would like to address a few concerns that, I'm sorry, I don't remember his name, but [00:33:04] the gentleman just addressed. [00:33:08] So we have many plans in place for the Chasco this year. [00:33:12] I heard him address the carnival. [00:33:14] As you know, the development that's going downtown around the lake this year will probably [00:33:19] be the last year that we'll be able to have the carnival in the location that we normally [00:33:23] have it. [00:33:24] We're very well aware of that. [00:33:26] And we're looking at future locations. [00:33:29] As far as him talking about the staff that's taxed, the fire department, the police, etc., [00:33:36] we do pay for that as part of our event in costs that we pay back to the city. [00:33:42] We also have a damage deposit that we put down for the park for things that we damage, [00:33:46] such as the grass. [00:33:48] So I just want to address his concerns that we're here to not damage the city. [00:33:54] We're here to provide a positive light to the city. [00:33:57] We're here to support 25-plus nonprofits every year that raise a lot of money for their various [00:34:03] organizations throughout the year. [00:34:05] And it is a pretty much free event that's put on for the whole community, not just New Port Richey residents, but people in the whole Pasco County area. [00:34:14] As far as we typically only sell beer six days of the Chasco Fiesta, the first weekend [00:34:19] and the last weekend. [00:34:21] And this year we are having a Grateful Dead night, and we thought that the additional [00:34:26] three days, that one night that's Tuesday night, would be a good night to offer the [00:34:31] alcoholic beverages. [00:34:32] So we don't anticipate a lot of sales on Monday and Wednesday, but we do anticipate [00:34:37] some on Tuesday. [00:34:39] So I think that's about it, as far as what I have to address, as far as what the gentleman [00:34:44] mentioned and any concerns you may have. [00:34:47] Thank you. [00:34:48] And if you would sit on the front row in case somebody has questions when we go. [00:34:53] Thank you. [00:34:54] Anyone else? [00:34:55] Good evening everyone, my name is Bruce Adam Rohrabach, Jr., my nickname is Brian with [00:35:09] a Y. [00:35:10] I've been working on a project, I feel it's a mistake to bring alcohol into Chasco for [00:35:16] a lot of reasons. [00:35:17] It's a tradition, Chasco is a tradition of the county of New Port Richey for many years. [00:35:25] It's an Indian remembrance at the beginning, and we recall in our history the problems [00:35:32] that the people did to the Indians with alcohol. [00:35:36] Right now I'm working on a program, I just talked to Senator Rubio's office today with [00:35:41] the program of having peace with Afghanistan, all the military coming back. [00:35:49] It's a program I've been working on for several months called Hernandez Hideaway. [00:35:53] It's basically a sober bar concept for the military to get away from alcohol and all [00:35:58] the abusive energy drinks and alcohol so that way the VA, they have fewer family problems [00:36:06] and better lifestyles because of the responsibilities of the military are very difficult. [00:36:14] And many of them turn to alcohol. [00:36:15] I talked to a girl last night with GoDaddy, and her grandfather served in the Philippines, [00:36:23] excuse me, Vietnam, and many people from Vietnam, all the problems they have that we didn't [00:36:31] know about back then with PTSD, and they turned to alcohol. [00:36:37] So I think it's good, I mean, Chasco is a, ever since I moved here, that's one thing [00:36:44] we look forward to every year. [00:36:45] I just think it's a mistake to give it into the community and then we have to worry about [00:36:50] carting and then of course if there's any accidents, then they can come back on the [00:36:56] festival. [00:36:58] I think it's better to come up with non-alcoholic drinks. [00:37:03] I've been trying for a long time to get coconut water imported into the country from the Philippines [00:37:11] instead of Thailand. [00:37:13] It's healthier than bananas as far as potassium, and so to do things like that, you can make [00:37:20] it interesting with the Chasco feeling, but I would suggest keeping it alcohol-free. [00:37:26] Regardless of the money that brings in, the problems it causes for the community just [00:37:33] aren't worth it. [00:37:34] I'm sorry. [00:37:35] That's my opinion. [00:37:36] Thank you. [00:37:37] Thank you. [00:37:38] Anyone else? [00:37:42] Seeing no one else come forward, I'll bring it back to Council. [00:37:45] Mayor, may I? [00:37:46] Yes. [00:37:47] I'll start off. [00:37:48] Just to correct Mr. Kane, number one, you and I are still going to meet up for that [00:37:51] walk through the park and have our discussion instead of these long emails we send back [00:37:54] and forth. [00:37:55] It's a lot easier just to do it face-to-face. [00:37:58] I have been busy, but I will reach out to you. [00:38:01] But you said liquor is not liquor, it's beer and wine, but I agree with your points, right? [00:38:06] We had, you're right, I've been an advocate up here that Sims Park is not a fairground. [00:38:12] It shouldn't be treated as one. [00:38:13] I love Chasco. [00:38:14] I know you're new to the position. [00:38:16] Good luck to you. [00:38:18] It's a huge responsibility and a lot of thankless work that goes into it, but our community [00:38:23] loves the event. [00:38:25] We've had alcohol at the event for quite some time. [00:38:27] I'm okay with the beer and wine sales at Chasco. [00:38:31] But I'm not okay when we have, like Mr. Kane referenced, work sessions and we discuss what [00:38:38] we're comfortable with and what we're not comfortable with. [00:38:42] And I've said more than once that I'm not comfortable with a fence around our park. [00:38:45] You're putting a fence around the park, what's going to happen, you have kids jumping over [00:38:48] the railing at the Sarazen Lookout, you have people coming in boats that aren't checked [00:38:52] because we have docks all along Sims Park, and we have a huge opening right through the [00:38:56] playground so that people that don't want to go through the gates are going to be walking [00:38:59] right through the playground. [00:39:00] So what's the point of putting fences up if it's not around the whole park, number one? [00:39:05] Number two, it's a park. [00:39:06] You don't put fences around a park, period. [00:39:08] I don't care what event you're having. [00:39:10] I'm okay, that's my opinion. [00:39:11] I'm okay with the alcohol, like I said, I'm not okay with fencing our park for an event. [00:39:17] And I also said, as you indicated, we're running out of square, of acreage downtown, and I've [00:39:23] said all of our events, including Chasco, including Bike Fest, stop trying to grow. [00:39:28] Let's work on quality, not size of the event, right? [00:39:32] And then I get a city manager's report saying they want to shut down Main Street for a car [00:39:35] show with 300 cars for more than half a day. [00:39:40] Not a good idea, in my opinion. [00:39:41] We have residents that live here year-round that don't like Chasco. [00:39:45] They put up with it. [00:39:46] Now we're going to shut down our main corridor through our city for a car show. [00:39:50] Not a good idea. [00:39:52] So I'm okay approving this event, the special alcohol beverage permit request, but as the [00:39:59] public didn't see, we talked about dates, but we didn't have slides showing where the [00:40:03] fencing was going to go, as we have on our agenda item, the vacancy, right? [00:40:08] They don't get our city manager's report showing that map. [00:40:11] So my question is, Mr. Driscoll, can we approve this and then address the fencing later, whether [00:40:15] it comes to a vote from council or not, because I'm not okay with the fence. [00:40:18] I want beer in the park here in Chasco, I'm okay with that. [00:40:21] Not okay with the fencing. [00:40:22] And once again, if you could bring it back to your committee, I talk to Chuck Ray on [00:40:26] a regular basis, he knows how I feel. [00:40:29] Our acreage is shrinking. [00:40:31] Stop trying any events. [00:40:33] Stop trying to expand them and make them bigger. [00:40:35] We don't have room. [00:40:36] Let's work on quality. [00:40:37] And you are working on quality. [00:40:39] The music acts that you guys are bringing this year are incredible. [00:40:41] I never thought I'd see such amazing acts during Chasco. [00:40:44] Very thankful for all that you do. [00:40:46] Very thankful for the event. [00:40:48] It is part of our heritage. [00:40:49] I love it. [00:40:50] My kids are going to grow up, remember, in Chasco just like I did. [00:40:53] It's part of growing up in New Port Richey. [00:40:55] I love it. [00:40:57] But I don't love a fence around a park, period. [00:41:01] In answer to your question, yes, you could address it. [00:41:04] The problem will be a matter of timing, I think, because your next meeting is not until [00:41:07] the 18th and this event is coming up pretty rapidly, so I don't know if that will cause [00:41:12] issues with the promoters of the event. [00:41:15] I don't like how this was thrown on us last week in the city manager's report about the [00:41:19] fencing that ties into this permit. [00:41:21] I don't appreciate it. [00:41:22] Mr. Mayor, if you would allow me, for purposes of discussion, I think it's important for [00:41:29] me to tell you that the Chasco Fiesta organizers presented this idea to me several weeks ago, [00:41:39] and I told them that it was a good idea. [00:41:43] I didn't know about the car show until recently, but I would be in support of that as well [00:41:50] because they are bringing people into the downtown area to interface with the local [00:41:58] business community. [00:42:00] The idea of having controlled points into the park is for a couple of different purposes. [00:42:07] One of them is security. [00:42:09] I think the one thing that's being missed on the map, and I should have responded to [00:42:14] your email earlier today, is the fencing that's already around the perimeter of the children's [00:42:21] play area. [00:42:22] There really isn't any way to go into the park from the play structure area unless you [00:42:28] go through a control point. [00:42:32] And the way I understand it, and I'll allow the Chasco representatives to respond, they [00:42:40] are charging admission fees to support the cost of the entertainment that is to take [00:42:48] place at the event. [00:42:52] I should have told you sooner about their plans to enclose the park, but they did it [00:43:02] with my knowledge, and I need to tell you that right off the top. [00:43:07] Thank you for that. [00:43:08] With all due respect, I don't think that you should have personally made that decision [00:43:12] without checking with us first because fencing a park is a big deal, in my opinion, and you're [00:43:17] going to have undesirables walking through the playground trying to get in if there's [00:43:21] an opening to get in there. [00:43:22] So do we want undesirables that aren't paying, that may be up to no good, walking through [00:43:26] our playground where their children are playing? [00:43:28] Probably not. [00:43:29] I think this is something that should have come before us rather than at the 11th hour [00:43:33] like it is right now. [00:43:34] I'm not okay with fencing. [00:43:37] The main street being closed off, I think we [00:43:51] do that for Bike Fest already, but the center aisle will be open. [00:43:55] So for any emergency vehicles to get through, the center aisle is open, the cars are only [00:44:00] to the side of Main Street, and the Missouri and Nebraska will be used also. [00:44:06] Not talking about just emergency vehicles, I'm talking about people who live here who [00:44:09] may not want to make it. [00:44:10] There's ways around. [00:44:11] Yeah, going up to 19, crossing the 19 bridge and coming back, it's a big inconvenience [00:44:15] for a lot of people who live here. [00:44:17] Once again, we've had car shows before at Chasco, never shut down Main Street. [00:44:20] I'm not okay with, how many times have we, I can't remember who keeps bringing it up, [00:44:25] but Bike Fest, they have in Daytona, they don't shut down one street. [00:44:27] Now we're shutting down two main corridors during Bike Fest. [00:44:30] Not a fan of it either. [00:44:31] Okay, but Bike Fest is closed also, so we thought, well, if they can do that, then surely [00:44:36] it'll work out. [00:44:37] And now that's how it works. [00:44:38] Well, they did it. [00:44:39] We're going to keep pushing the envelope, pushing the envelope, pushing the envelope. [00:44:42] But the main reason to do it downtown instead of around the lake, one, it ruins the grass [00:44:47] around the lake. [00:44:48] Two, it brings people to the downtown area. [00:44:50] That was our motive for doing it. [00:44:52] The whole event brings people to the downtown area, not just the car show. [00:44:55] Okay. [00:44:56] Well, I appreciate your opinion, but yours only. [00:45:00] Absolutely. [00:45:01] It sounds like you're representing all of us. [00:45:03] How did I make it sound like that? [00:45:04] I said it's my opinion, Chopper. [00:45:05] Okay. [00:45:06] I just, you know, you've dominated the conversation. [00:45:08] Go ahead, Chopper. [00:45:09] Thank you. [00:45:10] I'm in support of this. [00:45:12] I think the car show does just bring people around the Orange Lake. [00:45:16] I think this is a great idea to bring the people downtown. [00:45:19] And there's not going to be any beer sold down there. [00:45:22] They're going to have to go to the restaurants and bars that are down there. [00:45:25] So I like that whole approach with the bike fest. [00:45:28] Controlling the situation, they're not telling the people they can't come. [00:45:36] They can be able to get in and out of the park all day. [00:45:39] It's just when things go on in the evening, that's when you're going to start, [00:45:43] when you have the bands there, you're going to control to try to pay for this. [00:45:47] So I don't look at it as sealed off. [00:45:51] I just look at it as more of a security and control situation, [00:45:55] which would be a lot better than coming from all directions. [00:45:58] So I'm in support of this, [00:46:00] and I think it's a step in the right direction for nine days of the year. [00:46:08] Thoughts, Mr. Murphy? [00:46:10] Yeah, I think, well, I'm not saying there's not things we can change [00:46:15] or shouldn't not change. [00:46:18] But I just have to, at this point, unfortunately, [00:46:21] I think it's going to be a huge, huge problem for the promoters [00:46:24] and everybody else if you try to change what you have going on now so close to the event. [00:46:29] I mean, this is something we should address directly after the event. [00:46:34] And if we need to make changes, do something, that's the time to do it. [00:46:39] I'm not saying Councilman Starkey is not on point on some things. [00:46:43] I'm just saying I don't think now is going to be the time to address it. [00:46:47] We're going to have to, unfortunately, let this go through [00:46:50] and then talk about it afterwards and address it at that point. [00:46:56] Mr. Allman? [00:46:57] Yes, sir. [00:46:58] Well, full disclosure, I sit on the board of the Chasco Fiesta, [00:47:02] and so I do have some insight that I'd like to share with you all [00:47:05] related to the tug and pull between the fencing and the not fencing particularly, [00:47:11] because I know that's an issue. [00:47:12] And first of all, I know that at this public body we had a discussion about fencing, [00:47:17] and I specifically remember the chief chiming in to say he didn't like fences, [00:47:21] that they were ugly, he didn't like them in parks. [00:47:25] But between us, the other parks all had the same reaction, [00:47:34] according to Bobby, who is the director of the Ruth Eckert Hall. [00:47:39] And it was Bobby, the Ruth Eckert Hall gentleman, after last year's Chasco, [00:47:46] when we lost or had a significant loss, [00:47:51] who said he wouldn't come back with Ruth Eckert Hall unless we got the park under control. [00:47:56] So the purpose of the fencing is so that we can have limited access during the event. [00:48:02] And I seem to remember I was sort of advocating we might want to think about a fence, [00:48:06] and I recall you saying you didn't like fences around the parks. [00:48:10] And if we listen to the tape, I think you said, [00:48:12] not talking about this one particular event, but in general. [00:48:14] So to your general rule about no fences in the parks, [00:48:18] I think that you've got points to make, [00:48:20] and I don't want to put you outside of consideration of that. [00:48:26] But it was Ruth Eckert Hall who said we won't come back [00:48:30] if you can't control the alcohol coming in from all directions. [00:48:34] Now, granted, absolutely people are going to come in off the boat, [00:48:38] they're going to jump over fences, [00:48:40] and so the way in is going to also be managed by a wristband. [00:48:44] And so, you know, we have security that works tightly with our police department, [00:48:49] and it's my understanding from what I've been told by Patty, [00:48:54] that our staff, including our police department, [00:48:58] found the idea of securing this park beneficial [00:49:04] to keep us from being the Chasco fiasco. [00:49:07] So it was somebody from Pinellas County that said, [00:49:10] we don't want to be part of a drunk fest, [00:49:13] and in fact they want to evacuate the park at 5 o'clock [00:49:17] because they don't want the people that were here all day [00:49:20] drinking during the street parade to be still lingering [00:49:25] and to have the folks that are coming from out of town to join in our activity [00:49:30] to be confronted with folks that have been drinking all day and are belligerent. [00:49:36] So there were specific security concerns that led to the request for the fencing, [00:49:43] and I know that we went to great lengths on the committee [00:49:46] to make sure that it was decorative, attractive, and non-obtrusive. [00:49:51] So I think we'll have a chance to see how it goes. [00:49:53] It appears as if that's the way it's going, and then maybe after it's back. [00:49:58] To John's point, it is important, again, [00:50:01] for us to look at what is going to happen next year when we lose space. [00:50:06] So I also obviously support the idea among the committee, [00:50:11] we need to find a way to make revenue to bring those better entertainers in. [00:50:17] But it was not an idea that germinated from within our committee. [00:50:22] It was a requirement, and I think if I see the heads nodding from the folks on the committee, [00:50:27] it was a requirement for them to agree to come back that we provide that security. [00:50:32] So that's kind of why it was the only way we could get them back. [00:50:45] I want to address first the car show. [00:50:51] I participated in it last year, and I was up on Sims Lane. [00:50:57] It was wall-to-wall cars. [00:50:59] There were cars on private property. [00:51:05] In a way, I was a little surprised that some of the neighbors didn't call to have a tow truck come [00:51:10] to get some of the cars that were being shown that were sitting literally on their front yards. [00:51:14] It was a zoo, and to move that car show off of [00:51:19] and around Orange Lake it was as well with hundreds of cars parked all over the grass. [00:51:24] To move it into the side streets of downtown has a lot of benefits. [00:51:32] I had dinner, I guess it was Thursday night, over at Rose's and talked to Rose Moore. [00:51:44] She was ecstatic at the thought of having the car show over there on Railroad Square [00:51:49] where the people could just walk to the restaurants and eat there. [00:51:57] So as opposed to around Orange Lake, I think it's a big improvement. [00:52:03] Whether or not you close Main Street, I could argue that either way probably, [00:52:09] but definitely the side streets, which would be Nebraska and Missouri, [00:52:16] and the little verticals, and I don't even know that those have names, being closed are fine. [00:52:25] This is on the last Sunday of the event, or I guess it's the first Sunday. [00:52:35] The day before, that entire area is going to be shut down for the street parade. [00:52:42] I don't know that it's a whole lot different whether you're having a car show for a few hours on a Sunday morning [00:52:48] or a street parade that basically hoses traffic for the better part of the entire day. [00:52:54] I suspect the car show is less of an issue. [00:52:59] I understand where the Deputy Mayor is coming from with the fencing on the park, [00:53:13] and it is a community park as opposed to a fairground. [00:53:17] I think ultimately if Chasco is interested in growing the event and making a huge production out of it, [00:53:27] they may need to find someplace that's more appropriate than Sims Park, [00:53:35] because there is no way, absolutely no way with the construction that is happening downtown [00:53:43] that you're going to be able to put a carnival in the parking lot. [00:53:49] Quite frankly, I thought we were going to be under construction with the work on that parking lot by now, [00:53:54] and you wouldn't have had the carnival this year. [00:53:57] I'm a little disappointed that we haven't started that construction, [00:54:00] because we approved it back in October or November, so it should have been under construction by now. [00:54:12] You're running out of space, basically. [00:54:15] You've got to make some adjustments. [00:54:23] And I have heard complaints from people that are workers for the non-profits about the gates [00:54:33] and the fact that the gate charges are going to cost them money, [00:54:37] because people are not going to be able to come in to buy their funnel cakes or whatever without paying a fee. [00:54:47] That's an issue, but I suspect that's an issue between you and your non-profits. [00:54:52] If you gut their revenues this year, it will be a self-curing problem next year, [00:54:57] because you won't have any non-profits there to worry about. [00:55:06] I understand there are some other parks in the Tampa Bay area that are completely cordoned off for certain events. [00:55:15] There are, Mr. Mayor. [00:55:18] You know, we try it. [00:55:21] I could go along with that. [00:55:23] I will tell you I'm skeptical. [00:55:31] Sure. [00:55:33] Coachman Park is an example. [00:55:36] They fence it off for the Jazz Festival, but that I know of one, anyhow, and it's for the few days of the Jazz Festival. [00:55:47] But the other thing that this body, back in the 1980s, late 80s and 90s, came to me and said, [00:55:57] Control your own people. [00:55:59] Put your own fence up around your property at Jilly's. [00:56:02] Control your people. [00:56:03] You're selling alcohol. [00:56:04] Control your people. [00:56:06] And I think that's what we're doing if we're going to sell alcohol in the park, [00:56:10] especially during these concerts when the place is packed, [00:56:14] then we're asking the Chaska Fiesta people to take care of your people, control your people. [00:56:19] So I see the park open up most of the time except leading up to these concerts, [00:56:26] and they can go around and the people in the park, and if they want to buy a ticket, fine. [00:56:30] And if not, then they're still going to be under control of the people inside that park and the police and their own people they hire. [00:56:39] So I think there's a security thing that happens. [00:56:43] It happened at Coachman Park. [00:56:45] People used to bring all their own coolers, drink, do whatever they wanted. [00:56:49] Once they closed it off and controlled it, then I think things settled down there at Coachman Park, too. [00:56:55] So I think it's a change, but I think it's a change where security and safety becomes more controlled by the community instead of on and off from all directions. [00:57:07] Just to address my good friend's concern earlier, and Chopper is a good friend of mine, it's a pet peeve of mine. [00:57:13] I may get passionate over certain items that we discuss up here. [00:57:17] I would never, nor have I ever, tried to speak on behalf of this body. [00:57:23] I've seen other elected officials do it in writing and in vocal communication. [00:57:30] I start off my conversation by saying this is how I feel. [00:57:33] So whether I'm passionate or not, I'm not speaking for Councilman Davis. [00:57:36] I'm not speaking for these three colleagues on my left either. [00:57:39] But the mayor reiterated once again, we sat down here during a work session and said we're running out of space. [00:57:44] Stop growing the event. [00:57:46] Don't see it happening. [00:57:49] I hate to throw this out there, but in today's world, you all keep talking about security, security, security. [00:57:54] It's about making money. [00:57:56] That's what the events and the gates are for, so you can charge money. [00:57:59] God forbid we had a, in my opinion, God forbid we had a terrorist type act in the event while a concert or something was going on [00:58:08] and we have very limited exit points now. [00:58:11] I don't know if that crossed anyone's mind because I keep hearing security, security, security. [00:58:15] So once again, I'd like to approve this alcohol special beverage permit, but how do I do that if I'm not in favor of the, [00:58:25] I don't want to take the chance of, I don't know how you're going to vote. [00:58:28] You're going to vote. [00:58:29] Can you vote? [00:58:30] Yes. [00:58:31] Okay. [00:58:32] How you're going to vote and how you're going to vote. [00:58:33] I don't want to take the chance of not passing, but I have to say one last time, [00:58:36] I do not appreciate how this was thrown at us, not thrown at us, [00:58:39] presented to us with this fencing at the last minute at the 11th hour before the event. [00:58:44] It's not how things should work. [00:58:46] I just have one other question. [00:58:48] Wasn't there always a fence inside for the concerts? [00:58:52] That's what the shaded fence was always there. [00:58:55] Right, but not the entire park. [00:58:56] No, but I mean if there was an incident in there where all the people were, [00:59:00] it would have been the same situation. [00:59:02] How are they getting out? [00:59:03] They're going to be running over this. [00:59:05] Anyhow, it's always been kind of secure. [00:59:07] Maybe it's in a larger area now, not just inside the circle. [00:59:11] Mr. Murphy? [00:59:12] No, not my head on the line. [00:59:14] I didn't say. [00:59:16] Mr. Altman, any other thoughts? [00:59:17] Well, I guess since we're fleshing it all out before the motion, [00:59:21] I'll just go ahead and say one more thing, which is my role there is with the Native American activities. [00:59:28] And to the gentleman on the Native American comment, the Native American grounds are alcohol-free. [00:59:34] They do not allow alcohol in the area where the Native Americans are, and that is behind the bandshell. [00:59:41] So one of the goals I have is that when the price comes in that folks are asked to leave [00:59:48] because of the request that we've had, that they are still able to go back [00:59:52] and enjoy the entertainment at the Native American area because it will be behind the bandshell [00:59:57] and they won't be in that larger circle. [01:00:00] was talking about. So I think it gives an opportunity, hopefully, and I'm working [01:00:04] hard with the committee, hopefully, to get this accomplished, that when it's time for [01:00:08] folks to have to pay to be in there, that they can still enjoy the Chasco Fiesta, which [01:00:13] they will be able to do both in Native American and in the outside at the carnival, and they [01:00:19] will always be allowed in the playground. So we're not closing the entire park off. [01:00:25] We are closing the entire park off from access so we can limit what comes into the park, [01:00:31] but I think the idea that fee will be charged really is for the venue, for the musical events [01:00:38] specifically. [01:00:39] And if I could just interject, Mr. Mayor, in response to the Deputy Mayor's question, [01:00:46] if the event is approved as it's presented to you, you are approving all of the aspects [01:00:51] of it, the alcohol and the fencing and all of the other aspects of it? [01:00:54] Thank you for the clarification. At this point, I don't see how I would not approve [01:00:56] it because the organizers were told the city's okay with the fence during the event, so my [01:01:04] hands are tied. So I'll be voting yes. [01:01:07] We have a motion. [01:01:09] Move to approve. [01:01:10] Second. [01:01:11] To the maker. [01:01:12] Nothing further. [01:01:13] Nothing more. [01:01:14] Second. [01:01:15] Mr. Griffin? [01:01:16] I'm looking forward to it. I think it was Chopper, though. [01:01:20] I already got it. [01:01:23] I look forward to the event. [01:01:25] Mr. Altman? [01:01:26] No, thank you. And it should be the best one ever. [01:01:33] At the Dragon Boat Races, we need Dragon Boat Race participants from the City Council. [01:01:40] Oh, from the Council. [01:01:42] I do have concerns about the gate process. I'll be watching it very closely. [01:01:49] I do not want my approval of this to in any way, shape, or form indicate that I would vote in a similar fashion [01:02:00] the next time something like this comes up, be it from Chasco or from anybody else, [01:02:06] until we see how this goes. [01:02:09] Further comments, discussion? Hearing none, all those in favor, please signify by saying aye. [01:02:16] Aye. [01:02:17] Opposed? Like sign. [01:02:18] Motion passes.
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Three Minute Report: Police Department
Police Chief presented the department's 2019 UCR statistics submitted to the Florida Department of Law Enforcement, reporting significant crime reductions: violent crime down 18.3%, property crime down 16.6%, and total index crimes down 16.1%. The department made 1,427 arrests during the year, averaging nearly four per day.
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[01:02:20] Three-minute report, Police Department. [01:02:25] Well, this will be fun following that. [01:02:30] Actually, it's that time of the year when the Police Department is required to turn in our statistics to the Florida Department of Law Enforcement [01:02:39] or for our UCR numbers. [01:02:43] I wanted to share those with you because I think some paint a very good picture. [01:02:53] Now, we're required to submit this data to the state so that it can be compared against agencies all across the country. [01:03:02] It's a standardized way of totaling the types of crimes that we have and our clearance rates on those crimes [01:03:11] and so on. [01:03:12] So, they're broken into a number of categories. [01:03:16] I'm going to keep this brief and simple just because it can be a little bit complicated. [01:03:23] And I'll talk about the violent offenses first. [01:03:28] For 2019, we saw a 12% reduction in robberies, a 20% reduction in aggravated assaults, and there were other crimes in this category as well. [01:03:46] There's rape, but it stayed the same as it did for the previous year, the numbers on that. [01:03:52] And, of course, we had no homicides this year. [01:03:55] Our violent crime rate actually went down 18.3% for the year. [01:04:03] Property offenses, which are burglaries, larcenies, motor vehicle theft, and so on, our burglaries went down 29.5%. [01:04:16] Larcenies went down 10.5%. [01:04:21] Our motor vehicle thefts down 40.6%. [01:04:25] So, that gave our property crime rate, actually went down a total, when you factor all those numbers together, it went down 16.6%. [01:04:39] So, for the total index offenses, which are all these categories I've named, our total index crimes went down 16.1%. [01:04:50] And I think that's largely because of the performance of the police department, both in code and in our enforcement efforts. [01:04:58] In the course of last year, we made 1,427 arrests. [01:05:05] The officers were very, very busy. [01:05:08] And I did a little math on that, and that's almost four arrests on the average per day. [01:05:15] That ends up, we had one day just a week or two ago where there were 12 arrests in one day. [01:05:24] That's a lot, considering that we transport them out to the jail. [01:05:28] You know, we have an hour that way, an hour back, plus the time it takes to write the reports. [01:05:34] That was one midnight shift with four officers, a corporal, and a sergeant. [01:05:41] But they did 12 separate arrests, separate incidents. [01:05:45] So, I think their performance is just absolutely over the top. [01:05:50] And I felt like this was an opportunity for me to be able to brag a little bit about the agency's performance as a whole. [01:05:57] That concludes my report. [01:05:59] Any questions?
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Approval of February 18, 2020 Work Session and Regular Meeting Minutes
Approval of the February 18, 2020 Work Session and Regular Meeting minutes.