Council approved a $1.75 million interfund loan from Water & Sewer to the CRA (Community Redevelopment Agency) to buy the former Walgreens at US 19 and Main, and denied a land use change at 5432 Acorn Street.
22 items on the agenda · 18 decisions recorded
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- 1Call to Order – Roll Call▶ 0:00
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Pledge of Allegiance
Pledge of Allegiance and moment of silence honoring servicemen and women.
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[00:00:15] I'd like to ask you to all please stand, join me in the Pledge of Allegiance and remain [00:00:19] standing for a moment of silence in honor of our servicemen and women at home and abroad. [00:00:24] I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for [00:00:30] which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
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Moment of Silence
Brief moment of silence observed at the start of the meeting.
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[00:00:41] Thank you. [00:00:42] You may be seated.
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Approval of December 10, 2019 Work Session Minutes
approvedCouncil approved the minutes from the December 10, 2019 Work Session.
- motion:Approve the December 10, 2019 Work Session minutes. (passed)
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[00:00:45] Next item on the agenda is the approval of the December 10th meeting minutes. [00:00:48] Move for approval. [00:00:50] Second. [00:00:51] Any discussion? [00:00:53] Hearing none, all those in favor, please signify by saying aye. [00:00:56] Aye. [00:00:57] Opposed? [00:00:58] Flag sign.
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Approval of December 17, 2019 Regular Meeting Minutes
approvedCouncil approved the minutes of the December 17, 2019 regular meeting by unanimous voice vote.
- motion:Approve the December 17, 2019 regular meeting minutes. (passed)
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[00:00:59] Next, approval of the December 17th minutes. [00:01:03] Here. [00:01:04] Move for approval. [00:01:05] Second. [00:01:06] We have a motion and a second. [00:01:09] Any discussion? [00:01:10] Hearing none, all those in favor, please signify by saying aye. [00:01:13] Aye. [00:01:14] Opposed? [00:01:15] Flag sign. [00:01:16] Motion passes. [00:01:17] I'd just like to ask Del Deschamps to meet me at the podium, please.
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Proclamation - Arbor Day
approvedMayor Rob Marlow read a proclamation declaring Friday, January 17th as Arbor Day in the City of New Port Richey, highlighting the city's Tree City USA participation and the annual tree planting with Genesis School at Francis Avenue Park.
Francis Avenue ParkEnvironmental Committee of the CityGenesis SchoolTree City USACrystalDaleJ. Sterling MortonRob MarlowAnnual Arbor Day Tree Planting with Genesis SchoolArbor Day proclamationTree City USA▶ Jump to 1:18 in the videoShow transcriptHide transcript
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[00:01:20] Hi, Del. [00:01:29] Good to see you all. [00:01:31] You want a part-time job up here? [00:01:34] We're going to stay on this side of the podium. [00:01:41] It's safer. [00:01:42] Crystal's feeling sick. [00:01:46] We're going to get her out of here as quick as we can. [00:01:50] Proclamation. [00:01:51] Whereas in 1872, J. Sterling Morton proposed to the Nebraska Board of Agriculture [00:01:55] that a special day to be set aside for the planting of trees, [00:01:58] whereas the holiday called Arbor Day was first observed with the planting of more than a million trees in Nebraska, [00:02:03] whereas Arbor Day is now observed throughout the nation and the world, [00:02:06] whereas trees can reduce the erosion or plush topsoil by wind and water, [00:02:11] lower our heating and cooling costs, moderate the temperature, clean the air, [00:02:15] produce oxygen, provide habitat for wildlife, [00:02:18] whereas trees are a renewable resource giving us paper, wood for our homes, fuel for our fires, [00:02:23] and countless other wood products, [00:02:25] and whereas trees, wherever they are planted, are a source of joy and spiritual renewal, [00:02:29] and whereas the City of New Port Richey is an active participant in Tree City USA, [00:02:34] and whereas the City of New Port Richey partners with other individuals [00:02:39] and agencies for tree giveaways and plantings, [00:02:42] such as with the annual Arbor Day Tree Planting with Genesis School, [00:02:46] now therefore I, Rob Marlow, Mayor of the City of New Port Richey, [00:02:49] do hereby proclaim Friday, January 17th as Arbor Day in the City of New Port Richey [00:02:54] and urge all citizens to celebrate Arbor Day by attending the annual Arbor Day program [00:02:59] with students from the Genesis at 11 o'clock in the morning at Francis Avenue Park [00:03:04] for the annual tree planting ceremony, [00:03:06] and I urge all citizens to support efforts to protect our trees and woodlands. [00:03:10] Further, I urge all citizens to plant and care for trees to gladden the heart, [00:03:14] promote the well-being of this and future generations, [00:03:17] and as a side, I have still not killed those two loquat trees, [00:03:21] and they do look like they may bear some fruit this year. [00:03:23] So, there you go. [00:03:28] And a short note, I want to thank the City Council for the support of the Arbor Day events [00:03:33] and all the other activities the Environmental Committee of the City participates in. [00:03:37] So, thank you all. [00:03:38] And I'll see you all at the Arbor Day Festival, I hope. [00:03:41] Thank you, Dale. [00:03:42] Very good. [00:03:43] Thank you.
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Parks and Recreation Advisory Board Minutes - November 2019
approvedon consentThe Parks and Recreation Advisory Board minutes from November 2019 were approved as part of the consent agenda with no discussion.
- motion:Motion to approve the consent agenda, including the November 2019 Parks and Recreation Advisory Board minutes. (passed)
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[00:15:15] Next is the consent agenda. [00:15:18] Move for approval. [00:15:19] Second. [00:15:20] Any discussion? [00:15:21] Hearing none, all those in favor, please signify [00:15:23] by saying aye. [00:15:24] Aye. Opposed, like sign. [00:15:26] Motion passes. [00:15:27] I'm going to move item 11E up to next,
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Purchases/Payments for City Council Approval
approvedon consentThe consent agenda, which included Purchases/Payments for City Council Approval, was approved unanimously by voice vote without discussion.
- motion:Motion to approve the consent agenda. (passed)
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[00:15:15] Next is the consent agenda. [00:15:18] Move for approval. [00:15:19] Second. [00:15:20] Any discussion? [00:15:21] Hearing none, all those in favor, please signify [00:15:23] by saying aye. [00:15:24] Aye. Opposed, like sign. [00:15:26] Motion passes. [00:15:27] I'm going to move item 11E up to next,
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Resolution No. 2020-06: Authorizing Interfund Loan Between the Water & Sewer Fund and the CRA
approvedCouncil adopted Resolution 2020-06 authorizing an interlocal agreement and interfund loan from the city's Water & Sewer Fund to the CRA to finance the $1,750,000 purchase of the former Walgreens property at US 19 and Main Street. The three-year loan carries 1.8% interest with no prepayment penalty, recommended as the least expensive and least restrictive of three funding options.
Ord. Resolution No. 2020-06
- motion:Motion to approve Resolution 2020-06 authorizing the interlocal agreement and interfund loan from the Water & Sewer Fund to the CRA. (passed)
US Highway 19 and Main StreetBryant, Miller and OliveFord and AssociatesWalgreensAltmanDeputy MayorCRA interfund loanCommunity Redevelopment AgencyResolution 2020-06Water and Sewer Fund▶ Jump to 15:28 in the videoShow transcriptHide transcript
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[00:15:34] and that is CRA Resolution 2020-06. [00:15:42] Give me one second. [00:15:46] That's exactly what I'm doing. [00:15:54] In deference to our finance director who's [00:15:57] okay, we're going to get her out of here before we all put masks on. [00:16:13] Okay. [00:16:13] This is Resolution 2020-06, a resolution of the city council of the [00:16:18] city of New Port Richey, Florida, authorizing the execution of an [00:16:21] interlocal agreement with the city of New Port Richey, Florida Community [00:16:24] Redevelopment Agency, CRA, providing for approval of a loan from the [00:16:28] city's water and sewer fund to the CRA for redevelopment activities, [00:16:32] providing certain other matters in connection here with, and [00:16:35] providing an effective date. [00:16:38] Yes, sir. [00:16:38] Mr. [00:16:39] Mayor, members of the city council, as was indicated to you earlier [00:16:44] this evening at the CRA meeting, the city entered into a purchase [00:16:49] agreement for the former Walgreens property located at US Highway [00:16:53] 19 and Main Street on October 29th. [00:16:57] The agreed upon purchase price was $1,750,000. [00:17:05] The city worked with our financial advisor, Ford and Associates, as [00:17:09] well as Bryant, Miller, and Olive in their capacity as a bond council [00:17:15] and determined three funding options in relationship to this purchase. [00:17:22] The first and the preferred method is an inter-fund loan between the [00:17:26] water and sewer utility fund and the CRA. [00:17:31] There are sufficient funds available in that fund to supply a loan to [00:17:36] the CRA for the purchase without jeopardizing the integrity of [00:17:40] the fund or its activities. [00:17:44] The recommendation is to enter into a three-year loan and it involves [00:17:49] the payment of interest in the amount of 1.8%. [00:17:54] If the loan was to be paid off in advance of the three-year period of [00:17:59] time, there would be no penalty associated with it. [00:18:05] This was the funding mechanism that was the least expensive as [00:18:13] well as the least restrictive. [00:18:16] And with that, we are recommending that you consider [00:18:20] approval of the finance agreement. [00:18:25] Thank you. [00:18:26] Open up for public comment. [00:18:29] Seeing no one come forward, bring it back to council. [00:18:32] Move for approval. [00:18:33] Second. [00:18:34] To the maker. [00:18:35] Nothing more. [00:18:36] Second. [00:18:36] Nothing more. [00:18:37] Mr. Altman. [00:18:38] I think it's appropriate. [00:18:40] Deputy Mayor. [00:18:41] Still makes me nervous. [00:18:42] I don't mind acquiring land with CRA funds that we're going to use [00:18:45] as a city, but I'm still trying to figure out why some of us are so [00:18:49] very excited to spend so much money without having any kind of security [00:18:53] as to how long we're going to be holding that parcel of land or parcels of land. [00:18:57] It's, I pray it works out, but I'm just trying to understand the excitement, [00:19:04] I guess, when we have nothing secure at this point to alleviate us holding [00:19:10] that property for any extended period of time. [00:19:13] I share that same concern and certainly hope we can get some assurances on that
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First Reading, Ordinance No. 2020-2177: Conditional Use Application for 5707 Main Street (eCarve LLC)
approvedCouncil held first reading of Ordinance 2020-2177 to approve a conditional use permit for eCarve LLC, a scooter and one-wheel vehicle sales/retail/rental store, to relocate from 5780 Main Street to 5707 Main Street. The motion to approve passed with the six conditions from the prior approval, except no tours allowed and the return time amended from 8:30 p.m. to one hour after sunset (with starting time one half hour before sunrise).
Ord. Ordinance No. 2020-2177
- motion:Approve Ordinance 2020-2177 granting conditional use for eCarve LLC at 5707 Main Street with the six conditions from the prior approval, no tours, and rental hours amended to one half hour before sunrise to one hour after sunset. (passed)
5707 Main Street5780 Main StreetSims ParkFitzgerald'sFlorida OrchestraGet OutsideHess Fine BuildingJane and BarbershopWright's NutritioneCarve LLCCrystalDavisEarl HanMurphyScott CarboneConditional use permitDRC (Development Review Committee) recommendation of denialOrdinance 2020-2177Ordinance 2020-2177C▶ Jump to 19:18 in the videoShow transcriptHide transcript
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[00:19:18] before we get to a point where we're ready to vote to close on this thing. [00:19:24] If there are any further discussion? [00:19:27] Hearing none, all those in favor, please signify by saying aye. [00:19:30] Aye. [00:19:31] Aye. [00:19:31] Aye. [00:19:31] Opposed? [00:19:32] Like sign? [00:19:32] Nay. [00:19:34] At the risk of exceeding my authority as Mayor, Crystal, go away. [00:19:38] Don't go away mad. [00:19:39] Just go home. [00:19:41] Please. [00:19:42] Next is first reading ordinance 2020-2177. [00:19:54] This is ordinance 2020-2177C, an ordinance of the city of New Port Richey, Florida, providing for approval of a conditional use for a [00:20:02] scooter and one-wheel vehicle sales, retail, and rental store in the [00:20:05] downtown zoning district for the property located at 5707 Main Street, [00:20:10] as legally described herein, providing for any necessary conditions on said [00:20:14] use and providing for an effective date. [00:20:17] Yes, sir. [00:20:17] Mr. [00:20:18] Mayor, this may sound a bit familiar to you. [00:20:21] I'm the applicant for this conditional use application is Mr. [00:20:26] Scott Carbone. [00:20:27] He is in attendance this evening. [00:20:30] And you'll recall that he proposed to us at the end of last year. [00:20:38] It was in December of last year that a scooter and single wheel vehicle [00:20:44] sales and operations center be established at 5780 Main Street. [00:20:50] And that was approved by you. [00:20:53] Since that time, the applicant has learned that there are other plans for [00:21:01] the property where he was to serve as a sub tenant. [00:21:06] And therefore, he found another building in the downtown and that is at 5707 [00:21:14] Main Street, and he is now seeking an application for another conditional use [00:21:21] permit, it's appropriate to note that he is currently in operation at 5780 Main [00:21:29] Street, he intends to operate there for at least a two month period of time, [00:21:34] one month period of time. [00:21:37] If this conditional use permit for 5707 Main Street is approved by you, once he [00:21:44] has made the move across the street, we will come back to you and ask that you [00:21:50] repeal the conditional use approved for 5780. [00:21:55] With that being said, Mr. [00:21:56] Han has prepared a PowerPoint presentation in relationship to this matter. [00:22:05] Yes, thank you for the record. [00:22:06] My name is Earl Han, I'm the development director. [00:22:09] This is the location of the property, it's at 5707 Main Street. [00:22:13] It's basically across the street from the existing location. [00:22:18] And here's some pictures here showing the front and the back of the building. [00:22:24] This shows the zoning is downtown and the future land use is downtown core. [00:22:29] These are the three conditions that you must find to recommend the conditional [00:22:34] use, and the DRC had recommended denial because it did not meet two of the three [00:22:39] conditions. [00:22:40] That concludes my presentation. [00:22:42] I'll entertain any questions you might have. [00:22:44] What were the two conditions that were not approved? [00:22:50] The DRC committee, if you'll allow me, did not feel that the use was compatible [00:22:59] with other zoning classifications that are allowed in that district. [00:23:04] And also did not feel that it was in character with the city's downtown. [00:23:16] Could you go back and show that on that map again? [00:23:34] Is that part of the old municipal building that we're looking at? [00:23:38] I'm not certain whether it is or not, but the current tenant, I believe, is [00:23:41] like an Ameritrade company. [00:23:45] It's next to the Hess Fine Building. [00:23:48] Jane and Barbershop has purchased the building. [00:23:50] They're doing renovations right now. [00:23:51] They're going to occupy half the building, from what I'm told. [00:23:54] And the scooter rental place is going to run out of the other half of the property. [00:24:04] Mr. [00:24:05] Mayor, it might additionally be appropriate for me to note that if you were to approve [00:24:13] this conditional use permit, we would be applying the same standards as we did [00:24:19] that were associated with the approval that took place by you in November. [00:24:24] Okay. [00:24:24] I was on the wrong block. [00:24:26] It's not directly across the street from the other location. [00:24:30] It's actually a block down. [00:24:33] Okay. [00:24:33] I know where it is. [00:24:35] All right. [00:24:39] Any other questions before I open it up for public comment? [00:24:44] This is a public hearing. [00:24:47] We'll open it up for public comment. [00:24:49] Anyone wishes to address council on this? [00:25:00] Good evening. [00:25:00] I'm Scott Carbone, owner, operator of eCarve LLC. [00:25:04] Like Ms. [00:25:05] Mance had said, we're going to operate for the remainder of the month at our current [00:25:10] location. [00:25:11] The Get Outside, unfortunately, they're closing their business. [00:25:16] That leaves me with no business. [00:25:19] This particular building is going to be more conducive because of the park. [00:25:24] Sims Park is directly behind that area, and we have plans to do something in the back [00:25:30] as well to make it more inviting. [00:25:32] We opened up on December 6th at the 5780 Main Street, and it has been phenomenal. [00:25:40] We've had a lot of success, a lot of interest, and I would like you guys to approve [00:25:47] this to continue this new thing in the city. [00:25:51] I have had not had one problem or incident reported to myself, my staff, or the police [00:26:01] or fire rescue. [00:26:03] Everyone is operating in a safe manner. [00:26:05] I'm following the rules as you've bestowed upon me, and just wish you would continue [00:26:11] with this relationship with my business. [00:26:16] How old is your son? [00:26:18] Say that one time, sir? [00:26:19] How old is your son? [00:26:20] I don't have a son. [00:26:22] Oh, I didn't, I forgot to add. [00:26:25] We don't just do rentals, right? [00:26:28] So, we sold over 12 scooters within the first month. [00:26:33] So, a lot of the people that you might see out there are people who purchased, and I [00:26:37] believe we discussed someone that owns their own electric scooter. [00:26:41] They don't fall under the ordinance on E-CARB LLC, i.e., meaning they don't have to [00:26:49] return an owned scooter at 830 at night. [00:26:54] They can ride with a helmet or without a helmet if they own them. [00:26:57] So, what we do, we still provide the helmets. [00:27:01] They come back at 830. [00:27:03] I don't know if it's appropriate to bring this up now, but I would like to maybe lift [00:27:07] some of those restrictions. [00:27:09] I don't know if that's something I need to take up at another time. [00:27:14] I'm asking this because there was a young gentleman, I would say somewhere between 12 [00:27:19] and 14, that had got his machine from you. [00:27:24] And he was running up and down Nebraska about 7 o'clock. [00:27:29] It was dark out with just a small taillight in the back and no other lights and no [00:27:34] helmet. And the tags were hanging down like it was a brand new machine. [00:27:38] And I asked, where did you get it? [00:27:39] And he told me where he got it. [00:27:40] He says, I got it, my father owns the store. [00:27:43] OK, that's good that you brought that up. [00:27:45] That is one of the issues why we're no longer going to be operating out of there. [00:27:49] That is the owner of Get Outside. [00:27:51] He has a 12 year old son and we're not there. [00:27:55] They're utilizing or using our equipment without our knowledge. [00:27:59] So that is unfortunate. [00:28:01] It's an unfortunate event. [00:28:02] Mr. Davis, it's just out of my control when I'm not there. [00:28:07] Thank you. Anyone else? [00:28:11] Seeing no one else come forward, bring it back to counsel. [00:28:13] Mr. Mayor, before you do, can I just make a couple of comments? [00:28:16] Number one, this application, one of the differences between this approval and the last [00:28:20] one at the other location is this will not allow tours. [00:28:24] The gentleman has withdrawn that from his application for this particular facility. [00:28:28] I do want to make sure that the property owner or the business owner is aware [00:28:33] that scooters can still be regulated by a city council in some form or fashion, [00:28:37] and which may include either prohibiting them in the streets, [00:28:41] prohibiting them on sidewalks or prohibiting them in specific areas of the city, [00:28:46] including perhaps the downtown area where he's located. [00:28:49] And so nothing in this application will excuse anyone from following that [00:28:55] regulation if the city were to adopt that. [00:28:58] So I want to make sure he understands that, that if these get regulated by the city [00:29:03] council, irrespective of this conditional use, your customers may not be able to [00:29:08] operate them in the front of your store or anywhere near your store or in certain [00:29:13] particular areas. So I want to make sure he's aware of that. [00:29:15] And if there is a concern with the conditions that are on the application, [00:29:19] now would be the time for you to address the city council as to those conditions. [00:29:23] If you have any comments about the six conditions that were placed on the [00:29:28] application and which are recommended to be placed on this approval as well. [00:29:35] Just so I'm clear, you said these are the same conditions as passed previously, [00:29:38] correct? [00:29:39] Correct. [00:29:39] Okay. [00:29:39] I didn't understand exactly what you were saying. [00:29:46] I had a comment that you wanted to relax some of the conditions that were imposed [00:29:49] on you. [00:29:50] Yes, sir. [00:29:50] Prior to that, you said there was a part of the conditional use that possibly my [00:29:55] customers couldn't ride. [00:29:57] Sir, as you'll recall at the last, last approval. [00:30:00] that you got and made the same comment, that the City Council can establish an ordinance [00:30:05] that would prohibit the use of scooters, mobility devices, one-wheel devices in certain areas [00:30:11] of the city, which may include either prohibiting them to be ridden on the street, prohibiting [00:30:15] them to be ridden on a sidewalk, or prohibiting them in certain areas of the city, including [00:30:20] the downtown area. So if that were the case, your customers would have to physically remove [00:30:24] them and not operate them in one of those areas if that is how it's regulated. There [00:30:29] is no regulation now, but that is something that's available. So I want to make sure you [00:30:33] understand that you're operating a business where the lifeblood of your business may be [00:30:37] outlawed in particular areas of the city, including right where you're located. [00:30:40] I understand that now. Thank you for clarifying that. Just a few things, I believe there was [00:30:47] three. Right now I believe we have a 10-scooter allotment that we're only allowed to rent. [00:30:57] I believe that was the number that the council approved. I would like to try to move that [00:31:01] up to possibly 20. We don't, there is no limitation on the number of rentals, no. I'm sorry, I [00:31:07] was misinformed. I thought there was a, scratch that one then, aren't we? All right, the time [00:31:14] frame though, I believe we wanted, or the council recommended 8.30 p.m. for the scooters [00:31:20] to be returned. I would like to try to move that to 9.30 upon your approval. And the age [00:31:30] limit, currently no one under the age of 18 can rent or ride one of my scooters without [00:31:35] a parent's consent and be with the parent. So I would like to lift that to maybe 16 years [00:31:45] old. And the reason why I'm saying 16, 16, if they're driving vehicles, I believe 16-year-olds [00:31:53] mostly are responsible. And then possibly 13 to 15-year-olds, also parents consent, [00:32:00] but be chaperoned by one of our staff. The reason why I'm saying that, a lot of parents [00:32:10] are coming in that want their young kids to ride scooters, but they don't want to [00:32:16] accompany them. Understandable, I mean, but that's the rules. That's what we're following. [00:32:22] And I noticed with our staff, we could always chaperone them while they're on their ride. [00:32:32] Those are the only things I would like to get your approval on tonight. [00:32:42] May I make a motion? [00:32:43] I'll please do. [00:32:44] I'm going to move that we approve the resolution as presented. [00:32:51] Second. [00:32:54] Clarification, the resolution as presented is based on what the DRC passed or what was presented? [00:33:12] It would be an approval with the six conditions that were the same conditions that were approved [00:33:17] on the prior conditional use with the exception of there being no tours conducted from this [00:33:22] facility. [00:33:24] This is an ordinance in our resolution. [00:33:25] Correct. [00:33:26] Sorry. [00:33:27] It's technically, yes. [00:33:28] I'll amend my motion to reflect accurately. [00:33:29] Thank you. [00:33:30] To the Mayor. [00:33:31] Yes, I mean, the circumstances of the business changing at such a short period of time, they [00:33:38] got their business up and running. We put some restrictive covenants into this ordinance. [00:33:45] Certainly understand the request for more. I certainly understand the concerns of fellow [00:33:49] council members and of the city, but I think the location does provide for an opportunity [00:33:58] around the park and I'm really not ready to see our young folks have such mobility unsupervised [00:34:08] throughout our downtown. [00:34:09] There's an awful lot of reasons why I think I would like to continue to monitor and see [00:34:16] this and see how it goes. Folks that own them are out there now. Let's see how it [00:34:26] goes. [00:34:27] To the second. [00:34:28] Council, correct me if I'm wrong, if a 16-year-old wants to ride it, their parents can buy them [00:34:32] one, right? [00:34:33] Correct. [00:34:34] Yes. [00:34:35] Just can't rent them that atrium. I know what you're saying, but it's still new, so we can [00:34:38] revisit it down the road. [00:34:39] To the second. [00:34:40] That's all I have, yeah. [00:34:41] Mr. Davis. [00:34:42] I'm not against the commerce end of this thing. My concern is the safety end of it. I'd like [00:34:53] you to explain, I asked you earlier, about where the liability is if they're in an accident [00:34:59] or if they're part of an accident, caused an accident, or in an accident, and where [00:35:03] the age divides there. [00:35:06] Well, if it's a minor that's operating it, the parents would have responsibility for [00:35:11] that minor. If it's an adult, then the adult would be responsible for any damage or injury [00:35:16] that they cause. To a certain extent, the business owner is going to have liability [00:35:20] when it's dealing with rentals, whether he improperly rented something to somebody that [00:35:24] shouldn't have been riding it. Once he sells them, however, he's not going to probably [00:35:28] have much liability beyond once they go out his door. They belong to someone else at that [00:35:33] point. [00:35:35] The other thing I ask you is about the insurance end of it. If they cause the accident, where's [00:35:41] the insurance and where that lies? [00:35:43] Well, he has, the business owner is required to maintain insurance, and to the extent that [00:35:49] – [00:35:50] I mean, the liability of the driver of the – [00:35:51] The liability of the driver would be subject to that person's, most likely, if they have [00:35:56] a personal umbrella policy or a homeowner's policy, that would cover that, and there would [00:36:00] be some liability coverage in that. Some automobile policies will cover liability coverage [00:36:05] for people that are insured drivers and vehicle owners. So those would be some of the areas [00:36:10] they would go to. None of those issues are of concern in terms of having the city have [00:36:15] any liability, because there's no basis for any liability against the city under any [00:36:19] of this. [00:36:22] My other concern is your question of hours. I have a problem with the hours. I would rather [00:36:30] have a half hour before sunrise and a half hour after sunset, or maybe even use sunrise [00:36:37] and sunset, because these vehicles that are out there have one taillight that's about [00:36:43] the size of a silver dollar, and so you can't see them at night if they're coming towards [00:36:49] you with a different – now, they are available with lights, but the ones that I've seen [00:36:54] downtown have not had lights on, or not all of them have had lights on. So I have some [00:37:00] questions about the timing. You know, I don't – it's a time of year. Sure, I'd give [00:37:04] you a 9.30 in the summertime, but I can't give you a 9.30 in December. So, yeah, I'd [00:37:09] like, you know, I'd like the sunrise and sunset or half hour before sunrise and a half [00:37:13] hour after sunset, something along that line. [00:37:16] I'm just going to say this out, you know, I have not seen any safety ideals – road [00:37:24] safety – the people that I've seen out there riding, and I'll give you a few examples. [00:37:29] First of all, the 14-year-old or 12-year-old kid running up and down, he just thought Nebraska [00:37:33] was his play yard, and he just was running around. The other night, I saw somebody coming [00:37:38] out of the parking lot between Wright's Nutrition and Fitzgerald's, and somebody [00:37:43] also was – a car was coming out of the parking lot across the street from Fitzgerald's, [00:37:50] and the scooter had to scoot in between the vehicles – this is going west – he had [00:37:56] to scoot in and weave his way around those chairs and tables in front of Wright's Nutrition. [00:38:03] So he didn't stop coming out of that parking lot, and then once he saw a car there, he [00:38:06] had to divert off. I have yet to see any one of these scooters make any one of the four-way [00:38:12] stops on a corner of Adams and Nebraska. I have yet to see one stop at Nebraska and Grand [00:38:22] Boulevard. I was walking, actually, to the Florida Orchestra presentation on the Circle, [00:38:37] and I parked up along by the Central, and I walked down Central, and I was standing [00:38:42] at the corner, and I saw a father and a son – I would guess the son, 17, 18, father, [00:38:47] and they both blew by that stop sign on the Circle. So we're going to have a regulatory [00:38:52] problem with the police department to settle this down, because it's not safe. And I [00:38:57] actually yelled at the father, because he was the second through there, and he looked [00:39:00] at me like I was the wrong – he was right. He could just blow through that stop sign. [00:39:05] So we're going to have some problems here. I don't know how you can present to your [00:39:10] people that rent them out that they have to obey by the street laws. You don't need [00:39:16] to say – I mean, you can tell them, and you can present it, but I think we're going [00:39:21] to have a problem, and we're going to have to deal with that. [00:39:25] I would not like – I would like to see them off Main Street and off of Grand Boulevard. [00:39:31] It's just too close with the parallel parking and the width of the street that those two [00:39:35] streets, I think I would like to see. 19 to, you know, Madison and from, you know, Circle [00:39:43] down to at least Delaware. [00:39:47] I will say, it crossed my mind, your point with the timing. So at wintertime, 8.30, that's [00:39:52] basically two-plus hours of pure darkness, right? So would you be willing to amend your [00:39:57] motion to have them back by an hour after dusk, or after sunset, and tie that in, because [00:40:03] you made the motion? [00:40:04] Yeah. [00:40:05] Well, let me just, you know, throw one thing in there. As far as in aviation, you can consider [00:40:12] it dark an hour – you consider night flying an hour after sunset and an hour before sunrise, [00:40:18] so you're getting into darkness. So that's why I mentioned a half hour or a sudden rise [00:40:22] of sunset. [00:40:23] Is that okay also with the second? [00:40:26] He needs to amend his motion. [00:40:27] For what time frame after sunset? [00:40:28] One hour, as your suggestion is fine with me. [00:40:32] And I'll amend my second as well. [00:40:34] Be agreeable. [00:40:35] Councilman Murphy. [00:40:36] I'll agree with that also. I think some of the issues we have with the scooters, what [00:40:44] Councilman Davis was talking about, we've had them with the golf carts, too. So I think [00:40:49] it's going to be a matter of, you know, you see them, they're going to have to get a ticket. [00:40:52] And then they'll start realizing, oh yeah, I've got to pay attention. I mean, I don't [00:40:56] know what else, you know, what else you can do. They're not going to take it seriously [00:41:01] until, you know, something happens. So it may be something we may have to, you know, [00:41:06] crack down on. I know you've got better things to do than regulate scooters, but we [00:41:10] may have to make an example and, you know, put it out there that, hey, you know, you've [00:41:15] got to obey the laws. [00:41:16] And I'm sure Mr. Carbone, I would assume, when you rent these out, you let people know [00:41:19] it's just like riding a bike or a skateboard or in a golf cart or in a car, you stop at [00:41:23] the stop sign. You have to adhere to the rules of the road. So I'm sure when you're, [00:41:28] I'm assuming when you rent these out, they know that, correct? Okay. [00:41:31] And I will say that I really haven't heard any negative stuff. I mean, on the plus side, [00:41:37] I did have a deal with a couple last night and they had rented and they had the best [00:41:42] time with them. And they're actually considering about buying a couple now. So that was positive [00:41:49] news I heard. [00:41:51] I'm going to ask once again for a clarification. And admittedly, it's been a very long day [00:41:56] for me already. But what is in front of us, Ordinance 2020-2177B, is an ordinance of the [00:42:05] City of New Port Richey providing for denial of a conditional use for scooter and one-wheel [00:42:10] vehicle. [00:42:11] No, the one that you should be looking at is 2020-2177C, which is the ordinance approving [00:42:20] it with the six conditions. That's the one that was handed out. [00:42:26] Okay. [00:42:27] That might be why. [00:42:28] Yeah, and I'm sitting here reading it on. [00:42:30] Yeah, I apologize. [00:42:31] Okay. [00:42:32] On that. [00:42:33] I just wanted to make sure I knew what he was voting on. [00:42:36] And then the only change to that is in paragraphs five and six on page three of the ordinance. [00:42:41] Instead of saying 830 at night in paragraphs five and six, it would say one hour. One hour [00:42:46] after sunset. [00:42:47] Can I have another shot under this new amended ordinance here? [00:42:50] You need one hour before sunrise. [00:42:52] I might as well add that. [00:42:56] Yeah, the picture. Is the picture, should it be the picture of where it's going to be? [00:43:01] That's the picture we want for where it used to be. Because I think if we pass this, we [00:43:05] might want to put the address and the picture correct to the requested spot. [00:43:09] Yeah, that's where it is now. [00:43:11] So it would be, hopefully, understanding that we would put the appropriate photograph behind [00:43:18] the resolution, behind the ordinance. [00:43:20] This picture is not the same as the one that was up on the. [00:43:22] No, this is where they are now. [00:43:24] So that'll be corrected. That's a scrivener's error or whatever we want to call it. [00:43:31] Perfect. That's all right. So I'm not totally confused. This is okay. [00:43:36] I just would like to add that, you know, because they could have, you know, he could get a [00:43:40] group of people that come here and I would like that one hour before sunrise as one, [00:43:45] you know, that they're operating one hour before sunrise and one hour after sunset. [00:43:50] Before and after. [00:43:52] What time is your shop open? [00:43:54] Well, let's say he could have a private party. [00:43:58] Have we voted on this? [00:44:00] No, we haven't. I'm just trying to get it clear. [00:44:03] To answer your question, our hours of operation are 10 a.m. to 9 p.m. [00:44:12] We're under a motion, so all I can say is that that's fine. You were asked to come up, [00:44:17] but if it helps to clarify it, I will amend the amended motion to suggest that it would [00:44:24] be one hour before and after that witching hour, whatever it is that you're calling it, [00:44:32] when the sun is coming down. What's the word we're using? [00:44:35] Sunrise and sunset. [00:44:36] Oh, that's a tough one, isn't it? [00:44:37] One hour before sunrise, one hour after sunset. [00:44:39] You know, that thing happens every day. [00:44:41] That's the one. [00:44:43] If that's all right with you, may I? [00:44:45] He said his business wasn't even open before sunset. [00:44:48] But if we're doing a law here, he's not pledging that he's going to be open. [00:44:54] So if we're doing this now, we've done it twice already, let's cover it. [00:45:00] Open it earlier. [00:45:00] Is that okay with the second? [00:45:03] Absolutely. [00:45:04] Absolutely. [00:45:04] Let me make sure I understand now. [00:45:06] So it's one hour before sunrise? [00:45:09] One hour before or after sunset. [00:45:12] Thank you. [00:45:12] If Mr. Carbone wants to have an early bird special [00:45:14] at some time in the future, you're covered. [00:45:16] No problem. [00:45:18] All right, is there any further discussion? [00:45:22] Hearing none, all those in favor, [00:45:24] please signify by saying aye. [00:45:26] Aye. [00:45:27] Opposed, light sign. [00:45:29] Motion passes.
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- 10.b
First Reading, Ordinance No. 2020-2176: Future Land Use Map Amendment for 5432 Acorn Street
deniedCouncil considered a small-scale Future Land Use Map amendment to change a 0.27-acre parcel at 5432 Acorn Street from low density residential to downtown. Staff and the Land Development Review Board recommended denial as inconsistent with comprehensive plan policies, and the applicant was not present. Council moved to deny the request, citing lack of a specific plan for the property despite interest in seeing a complementary use like a kayak launch or small retail.
Ord. Ordinance No. 2020-2176
- motion:Motion to deny the future land use map amendment for 5432 Acorn Street. (passed)
5432 Acorn StreetBeefer Brady'sGet OutsideMain Street LandingSpoonbill'sAltmanDebbieEarl HahnMurphyPaul ClarkComprehensive Plan Policy 1.33DRC (Development Review Committee)Land Development Review BoardOrdinance No. 2020-2176Section 163.3187 Florida Statutes▶ Jump to 45:31 in the videoShow transcriptHide transcript
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[00:45:31] Next, first reading ordinance 2020-2176. [00:45:37] This is ordinance 2020-2176, an ordinance [00:45:40] amending the city of New Port Richey's comprehensive plan [00:45:45] future land use map for a small scale future land use [00:45:48] amendment pursuant to section 163.3187 Florida statutes [00:45:52] to amend the future land use category for a 0.27 acre [00:45:56] property located at 5432 Acorn Street, [00:45:59] as more particularly described herein, [00:46:02] from low density residential future land use category [00:46:04] to downtown future land use category, [00:46:07] providing for severability, providing [00:46:08] for an effective date. [00:46:10] Mr. Hahn? [00:46:12] Yes, for the record, Earl Hahn, development director. [00:46:16] This is a small scale future land use amendment, [00:46:18] meaning that it's a land use amendment for less than 10 [00:46:21] acres. [00:46:22] This is the location. [00:46:23] You can see it's right behind the landings. [00:46:25] And there is Acorn Street separates the two. [00:46:31] The property is 0.277 acres. [00:46:35] It contains a single family home. [00:46:37] The future land use is low density, [00:46:39] and they're proposing to go to downtown. [00:46:43] Here again, you can see the red is the downtown, [00:46:46] showing the downtown zoning, the land use. [00:46:49] And the yellow is the residential, [00:46:52] showing some of the surrounding land uses. [00:46:55] And the DRC, at their meeting, found [00:46:57] that it's inconsistent with two different policies [00:47:01] in the comprehensive plan, that being 1.33, which [00:47:05] requires land uses to be consistent with the type [00:47:09] and scale of surrounding development. [00:47:12] And Acorn Street, as was mentioned, [00:47:16] provides a separation from the downtown core [00:47:20] and to maintain consistency. [00:47:22] And we sent out the public notices. [00:47:23] No public notices were returned. [00:47:26] And we're recommending the LR, the Land Development Review [00:47:31] Board, recommended denial of this also. [00:47:36] And this application is related to the next one that comes on. [00:47:40] So if you deny the land use amendment, [00:47:43] then the next item would be moved. [00:47:46] That concludes my presentation, and I'll [00:47:48] be glad to answer any questions you might have. [00:47:50] This is quasi-judicial. [00:47:51] If anyone's got any ex parte communications, [00:47:54] please so indicate. [00:47:57] Hearing none, opened up. [00:48:00] Is the applicant in attendance? [00:48:04] No, Mr. Mayor. [00:48:05] Any substantially affected parties? [00:48:10] Any members of the general public [00:48:11] wish to address counsel on this? [00:48:16] Seeing none, I will bring it back to counsel. [00:48:19] I guess I have a question. [00:48:20] Has there a certain type of business been referred [00:48:25] or been brought up that would fall under the downtown land [00:48:28] use as to why they're wanting to do this? [00:48:31] I don't recall if he mentioned that he [00:48:33] had made a number of improvements to the house [00:48:35] and that the new apartment buildings were affecting [00:48:40] his ability to use the property as it [00:48:43] was for single family uses. [00:48:44] And he thought it would be a better transition [00:48:46] to some kind of, I believe it was [00:48:49] some kind of commercial office. [00:48:51] But I could be mistaken. [00:48:52] It might have been some kind of small scale retail. [00:48:55] But I do believe it was some kind of office that he used. [00:48:57] Mr. Mayor, if you'll allow me, the applicant [00:49:01] was not interested in establishing an office use, [00:49:06] but rather a retail use at the facility. [00:49:09] Although he did not indicate a specific retail use, [00:49:12] he wasn't prepared to do so. [00:49:14] He felt that the zoning classification was liberal [00:49:17] enough, though, that he would be able to find something [00:49:20] that might be suitable. [00:49:22] Well, and Councilman Altman, if I could ask you, [00:49:24] because you had a similar venture across the river [00:49:27] back in the day. [00:49:28] So where Spoonbill's was, that used [00:49:30] to be a residential property, zone residential, [00:49:32] I would assume. [00:49:33] So it was built as a single family dwelling, correct? [00:49:35] If only we could slide it over. [00:49:36] It's in the downtown. [00:49:37] It was in a funeral home. [00:49:38] It's where Beefer Brady's was. [00:49:40] It was in downtown. [00:49:40] It's in the red. [00:49:41] It was in the downtown. [00:49:42] It was in downtown, all right. [00:49:43] So this doesn't have to be. [00:49:45] But it was adjacent to a residential, as you said. [00:49:46] Right. [00:49:46] That's why I'm asking, because to me, this parcel, [00:49:49] I'm very familiar with it. [00:49:50] A lot has changed as a property owner, in my opinion, [00:49:53] since Main Street Landings went up. [00:49:54] And that's why, I guess, I was hoping that he or she had [00:50:00] a business idea in mind when they presented to the city. [00:50:04] Because a place like Get Outside could maybe [00:50:08] do a really, really awesome job being in a parcel like this [00:50:12] on the river, or a bait shop, or a tackle shop, [00:50:15] or something that coincides with paddle boarding, kayaking, [00:50:18] getting bait, which is very close to the current boat [00:50:23] launch. [00:50:23] But we can't use the board of realtors there. [00:50:26] And it's been spoke about having something [00:50:28] similar in that area. [00:50:31] I think I personally am probably OK with this. [00:50:34] Because if I had a little home, I [00:50:36] know exactly what this home looks like. [00:50:37] And they built Main Street Landing next to me. [00:50:39] And there's been talk about ecotourism and all that [00:50:42] on the west side of the county. [00:50:44] I think this particular parcel would [00:50:46] be a great parcel for something like that. [00:50:50] Obviously, we don't want a 7-Eleven or anything. [00:50:53] Commutes or anything like that on the river [00:50:55] wouldn't be allowed anyway. [00:50:56] But I just wish we had a little bit more information [00:50:59] as to what their plans might be. [00:51:01] May I, Mr. Mayor? [00:51:03] Just make a suggestion. [00:51:06] I had no ex parte conversations related to the application. [00:51:10] But I did meet the owner who had recently purchased it [00:51:13] from the original family that had owned it. [00:51:16] And the history for me, having been involved in Main Street [00:51:19] Landing, was I was advocating for that property [00:51:21] to be acquired for the very purpose that you mentioned it. [00:51:25] It would be perfect for a canoe launch or a kayak [00:51:27] launch to those people that are on the other west [00:51:30] side of the river. [00:51:32] When I spoke to the individual, it's a small house [00:51:36] that he did renovate. [00:51:37] And it's quaint looking. [00:51:39] And if the house didn't change, it [00:51:42] would probably make a good. [00:51:43] And he made some discussion about a tea shop or a bake [00:51:47] shop or something of that sort. [00:51:52] I'm an advocate for having our redevelopment director [00:51:56] go and speak to him. [00:51:57] If the city or the city, if you're interested, [00:52:01] there are funds for boat ramp, boat delivery. [00:52:08] And it would be possible we could do a private venture [00:52:12] if he's interested in doing something like that. [00:52:14] I think it would be a great business to be there. [00:52:17] But if you call it downtown, then you're [00:52:18] opening it up for anything. [00:52:21] So I would love to see your vision there, [00:52:23] because it's the same one I have. [00:52:25] I think the more out of the river, [00:52:27] the more we let the non-motorized boats get [00:52:29] in and out, it's fine to have it in Sims Park. [00:52:34] I've always thought that that Acorn Street ought [00:52:36] to be part of that, and us have a small launching pad there. [00:52:42] And I know it's a request of the people. [00:52:44] The number of people moving in, I'm sure it [00:52:46] would be very active. [00:52:49] But as to the zoning, I think I would agree with the staff. [00:52:52] And I've got no problem. [00:52:54] I agree. [00:52:54] I just had to get off my chest. [00:52:55] But it's just too broad a zoning classification. [00:52:58] But I would like to see something similar. [00:53:02] Mr. Murphy? [00:53:05] It's worthy of consideration. [00:53:06] But I think that you need a plan. [00:53:10] If you want to change zoning for something, [00:53:12] you need to come forward with a plan on what you plan on doing [00:53:15] with it, not just, I think I can fit something in there. [00:53:17] So tools of plan, I'm against it. [00:53:22] And quite honestly, I think if he gets to zoning, [00:53:25] all of a sudden his value of his property went up, [00:53:28] and now he's just going to sell it. [00:53:35] It's an odd parcel. [00:53:37] I did drive by there and take a look at it. [00:53:39] It's got the little house and a detached garage on it. [00:53:43] But what would you use it for? [00:53:45] It's all facing, basically, the back of Main Street Landing. [00:53:53] I'll move to deny their request, but thank you [00:53:55] for the discussion. [00:53:56] Second. [00:53:57] For point of information from the attorney, [00:53:59] if we deny this, does that preclude us [00:54:03] from looking at this parcel for any period of time [00:54:08] afterwards for a different decision? [00:54:12] No, this is a land use decision. [00:54:14] You can certainly take a look at it any time. [00:54:18] So we have a motion to deny, and we have a second. [00:54:22] All right, to the maker. [00:54:23] Nothing further. [00:54:24] Thank you for the suggestion. [00:54:25] To the second. [00:54:26] Nothing more. [00:54:27] Mr. Altman. [00:54:28] No. [00:54:28] Paul Clark, please. [00:54:30] Mr. Murphy. [00:54:31] No, we're good. [00:54:32] I'd love to see something there. [00:54:34] Maybe you should become an investor down there. [00:54:39] Give you something else to do, right? [00:54:41] Yeah, exactly. [00:54:41] No. [00:54:46] It's a parcel that begs having something done with it, [00:54:49] but this isn't it. [00:54:52] If there's no further discussion, all those in favor, [00:54:54] please signify by saying aye. [00:54:56] Aye. [00:54:56] Aye. [00:54:57] Opposed, like sign. [00:54:59] Debbie, what's this neighbor?
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- 10.c
First Reading, Ordinance No. 2020-2175: Rezoning for 5432 Acorn Street
deniedFirst reading of Ordinance 2020-2175, a companion rezoning of approximately 2.7 acres at 5432 Acorn Street from R-2 district to downtown district. Because the related land use change was not approved, the council denied this rezoning as moot.
Ord. Ordinance No. 2020-2175
- motion:Motion to deny Ordinance 2020-2175 as moot since the companion land use change was not approved. (passed)
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[00:55:05] Next is first reading ordinance 2020-2175, [00:55:09] which is the companion to this. [00:55:11] Right, this is ordinance 2020-2175, [00:55:13] an ordinance amending rezoning approximately 2.7 acres [00:55:17] property located at 5432 Acorn Street, approximately 20 feet [00:55:21] of River Road from our two district [00:55:23] to downtown district, further described here [00:55:25] in an exhibit A, providing for severability, [00:55:27] providing for an effective date. [00:55:30] In this, you could certainly just entertain a motion [00:55:34] to deny this as moot, because you can't have, [00:55:38] you can't approve a zoning that would be incompatible with [00:55:40] the land use, and you've already made the decision not [00:55:42] to approve the land use. [00:55:43] I would entertain such a motion. [00:55:46] Moot to deny as amended. [00:55:47] Second. [00:55:48] Any discussion? [00:55:50] Hearing none, all those in favor, [00:55:52] please signify by saying aye. [00:55:53] Aye. [00:55:54] Aye. [00:55:54] Opposed, like sign.
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Second Reading, Ordinance No. 2020-2178: Amendments to Uniform Fine Schedule
approvedCouncil adopted on second reading Ordinance 2020-2178, which amends the city's uniform fine schedule. The amendment was needed because the fine schedule had previously been adopted by resolution but legally must be adopted by ordinance.
Ord. Ordinance No. 2020-2178
- vote:Adopt Ordinance 2020-2178 on second reading, amending the uniform fine schedule. (passed)
AltmanMs. VanceFY 19-20 budgetOrdinance 2020-2178Section 1-14 of Chapter 1Section 2-240 of Article 8 of Chapter 2Section 2-30 of Article 8 of Chapter 2▶ Jump to 55:56 in the videoShow transcriptHide transcript
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[00:55:56] Motion passes. [00:55:57] Next, second reading ordinance 2020-2178. [00:56:00] This is ordinance 2020-2178, an ordinance [00:56:03] of the city of New Port Richey, Florida, [00:56:04] providing for amendment of section 1-14 of chapter 1 [00:56:07] of the New Port Richey Code of Ordinances, [00:56:09] pertaining to penalties for violations of the city code, [00:56:11] providing for amendment of section 2-30 of article [00:56:13] 8 of chapter 2 of the code of ordinances [00:56:15] pertaining to definitions in chapter 2 of the city code. [00:56:18] Providing for amendment of section 2-240 of article 8 [00:56:20] of chapter 2 of the code of ordinances [00:56:22] pertaining to uniform fine schedule, [00:56:24] providing for an amended uniform fine schedule, [00:56:26] providing for conflict severability [00:56:27] and an effective date. [00:56:31] Very good. [00:56:31] Open it up for Ms. Vance. [00:56:33] Certainly, Mr. Mayor. [00:56:35] As I'm sure that you will recall from the discussion [00:56:38] at our last meeting, the fine schedule [00:56:42] was adopted in conjunction with the fee schedule, which [00:56:48] was adopted at the time that we considered [00:56:53] the adoption of the 19-20 fiscal year budget. [00:56:58] We have since learned that we were in error [00:57:00] and that the fine schedule needs to be adopted by ordinance [00:57:04] rather than by resolution. [00:57:06] And so we have brought this matter back before you [00:57:09] so that the fines and penalties, as noted in the city code, [00:57:15] will have the appropriate fine schedule associated with them. [00:57:19] Very good. [00:57:20] Open it up for public comment. [00:57:22] Seeing no one come forward, bring it [00:57:23] back to council. [00:57:26] Second. [00:57:27] To the maker. [00:57:28] To the second. [00:57:29] Mr. Altman. [00:57:30] No, sir. [00:57:31] Deputy Mayor. [00:57:31] Comments. [00:57:32] In that case, all those in favor, [00:57:33] please signify by saying aye. [00:57:35] Aye. [00:57:36] Opposed, like sign. [00:57:37] Motion passes.
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Interlocal Agreement with Pasco County Property Appraiser for Collection of Non-Ad Valorem Assessments
approvedCouncil approved an interlocal agreement with the Pasco County Property Appraiser to place delinquent code enforcement fines and demolition liens on the tax roll for collection by the tax collector. After three notice letters, a fourth and final letter will be sent before fines are added to the tax bill. Councilmember Bill Phillips raised whether other fines (e.g., utility liens) might also be collected this way in the future.
- motion:Approve interlocal agreement with Pasco County Property Appraiser to collect delinquent code enforcement fines and demolition liens via the tax roll. (passed)
Pasco County Property AppraiserWaffle HouseWalden PondsAltmanGary JoynerMurphyCode enforcement finesDemolition liensInterlocal Agreement for Non-Ad Valorem AssessmentsOctober 2020 delinquent code enforcement collection▶ Jump to 57:38 in the videoShow transcriptHide transcript
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[00:57:38] Next, interlocal agreement, Pasco County property appraiser [00:57:41] for collection of non-ad valorem assessments. [00:57:44] Yes, sir. [00:57:46] As you're also aware, the property appraiser [00:57:50] has the ability to include fees which [00:57:52] are not based on millage on the tax roll for collection [00:57:58] by the tax collector. [00:58:00] In this instance, we are asking your permission [00:58:05] to enter into an interlocal agreement with Gary Joyner [00:58:09] in his capacity as property appraiser [00:58:12] to place code enforcement fines on the tax roll for collection [00:58:18] by the tax collector in conjunction with the October [00:58:22] 2020 delinquent code enforcement tax or, pardon me, [00:58:30] code enforcement tax fines. [00:58:32] As you may recall from the discussion [00:58:35] that we had at your last meeting, [00:58:37] there have been three letters sent out to property owners [00:58:41] indicating that failure to pay the fines would result [00:58:47] in this fine being placed on the tax bill. [00:58:52] Several people have opted to pay. [00:58:56] Others have not. [00:58:57] But we will be sending a fourth letter [00:59:01] if you determine it's appropriate to approve this [00:59:04] agenda item indicating that they have one final opportunity [00:59:07] to pay or to negotiate for payment. [00:59:11] Thank you for opening up for public comment. [00:59:14] Seeing no one come forward, bring it back to council. [00:59:18] Move for approval. [00:59:19] But I have one question. [00:59:20] We have a motion. [00:59:21] Do we have a second? [00:59:22] Second. [00:59:23] To the maker. [00:59:25] This four-letter process, how long does that take? [00:59:32] Eight months? [00:59:34] Six months? [00:59:35] Well, it depends on the regularity [00:59:39] with which they are sent. [00:59:42] In this case, I would suggest that it was probably [00:59:46] a four-month period of time. [00:59:49] So they originally got their fine or their citation. [00:59:57] Then there was, what, a couple months to? [01:00:00] Oh, no, it would be much more time than that before they would receive the final notice. [01:00:07] No, the first, the first, before they got their first letter. 30 days? 60 days? [01:00:11] No, it would be much more than that. It would probably be in excess of 120 days before it came to a letter from the city. [01:00:22] Okay, so we got, so we have four months that they're waiting around, then they get four letters, so there's another four months. [01:00:28] So I'm just trying to say if we got somebody that, you know, didn't pay, you know, the first month after ad valorem, you know, their tax bills due, [01:00:37] then they would be, you could be 11 months before they actually paid it, you know. Is that true? [01:00:43] If they, you know, if they never paid it, it would be up until their next ad valorem tax bill. [01:00:49] That's correct. [01:00:50] So there's a possibility we might get our money earlier, but there could be up to that time. [01:00:55] That's correct. [01:00:56] Well, at least that they're going to be tied to their tax bill, so then they're going to be awake. [01:01:00] That's the security that we're looking for. The code enforcement fines, traditionally, we have had a difficult time collecting those, [01:01:11] and in spite of the fact that we have employed a myriad of tactics to get people's attention, this will ensure that payment is made. [01:01:20] And a lot of these are going to rental properties. Is that true? [01:01:25] I don't know that. [01:01:26] Well, some of them must be going to, 46% of our, you know, residential residents are probably, 46% are probably going to. [01:01:36] That's correct. [01:01:37] Okay. All right. Thank you. [01:01:39] To the second. [01:01:41] Nothing. [01:01:42] Whoever it was. [01:01:43] It was Mr. Murphy. [01:01:44] I'm sorry. [01:01:45] Deputy Mayor. [01:01:46] Nothing. Thank you. [01:01:47] Mr. Altman. [01:01:49] Just a question on the fact that this is covering code enforcement fines. [01:01:54] Are there not other fines or costs that the city may want to pose that the property appraiser is allowing us, [01:02:03] or did we only ask permission for code enforcement? [01:02:05] As an example, utility fines, I know they're a lien on the property. [01:02:12] We've had some really large ones on some large properties with promises for a long time to pay them. [01:02:17] Are we not asking to have the ability to collect that way as well? [01:02:22] This only includes code enforcement fines and demolition liens. [01:02:27] Is that all we want to do or is that all we've asked to do? [01:02:31] Well, the utilities, you have other avenues because you can disconnect services and you have that ability as well. [01:02:38] By example, the mobile home park on the other side of where a number of our councilmen live, [01:02:46] 19 across from, I don't know, the Waffle House. [01:02:54] Walden Ponds. [01:02:55] Walden Ponds. [01:02:57] Huge fines. [01:02:59] Code enforcement part of it, unpaid water bills and expenses is the other part. [01:03:04] The entity doesn't care about the water anymore. [01:03:07] They're not hooked up to the water. [01:03:09] There was a point that I can recall they were asking us to negotiate that down with them, which we don't have to do. [01:03:15] I don't know where those kind of things go, but, yeah, in tradition I would agree with you, [01:03:21] but my really question is I heard Mr. Joyner say I'm offering this as an opportunity for you to collect, [01:03:29] not I only want you to collect this type of thing. [01:03:32] So whether it causes us to expand this at another time, [01:03:37] I would ask that maybe we look at the outstanding bills [01:03:42] and see if there's any additional use of this unique or this, you know, dependable collection mode if it's useful. [01:03:52] But it's not in this, so it's a bit off topic, but I wanted to know how it got confined. [01:04:01] Any further discussion?
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Interlocal Agreement with Pasco County Tax Collector for Collection of Non-Ad Valorem Assessments
approvedCouncil approved an interlocal agreement with Pasco County Tax Collector Mike Fasano authorizing collection of unpaid code enforcement fines via the uniform method for non-ad valorem assessments, with a 2% administrative fee charged by the tax collector.
- motion:Motion to approve the interlocal agreement with the Pasco County Tax Collector for collection of non-ad valorem assessments. (passed)
Pasco County Tax CollectorAltmanGary JoynerMike FasanoCode Enforcement Fines CollectionInterlocal Agreement with Pasco County Tax CollectorNon-Ad Valorem Assessments▶ Jump to 1:04:04 in the videoShow transcriptHide transcript
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[01:04:04] Hearing none, all those in favor, please signify by saying aye. [01:04:07] Aye. [01:04:09] Motion passes. [01:04:10] Next, interlocal agreement with Pasco County Tax Collector for collection of non-ad valorem assessments. [01:04:16] Yes, sir, members of the Council. [01:04:20] This is the companion agreement to the interlocal agreement that you just approved with Gary Joyner. [01:04:28] This is with Mike Fasano in his capacity as the Pasco County Tax Collector, [01:04:34] and it authorizes him to collect unpaid code enforcement fines using the uniform method of collection for non-ad valorem assessments, [01:04:47] which you approved at your last Council meeting. [01:04:52] In the case of the tax collector, there will be a charge of an administrative fee of 2% of the amount collected [01:05:03] for them to provide the service of collection and processing of the fees, [01:05:10] and we are hopeful that you will allow us to go forward with this method [01:05:17] and enter into the interlocal agreement with the tax collector's office. [01:05:22] Thank you. [01:05:23] I'll open it up for public comment. [01:05:25] Seeing no one come forward, bring it back to Council. [01:05:28] Move for approval. [01:05:29] Second. [01:05:30] To the maker. [01:05:31] Nothing. [01:05:32] To the second. [01:05:33] Nothing. [01:05:34] Mr. Altman. [01:05:35] No. [01:05:36] Deputy Mayor. [01:05:37] Nothing. [01:05:38] In that case, all those in favor, please signify by saying aye. [01:05:39] Aye. [01:05:40] Opposed, like sign. [01:05:41] Motion passes.
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2017 Wayfinding Project Phase 2 – Change Order No. 1
approvedCouncil approved Change Order No. 1 for the 2017 Wayfinding Project Phase 2 in an amount not to exceed $50,991 from Pablocki Sign Company. The change order includes a $10,000 owner's contingency, additional signposts and bases, a Sims Park kiosk sign, letter modifications, a gateway monument sign at U.S. Highway 19, and an LED board on a monument sign at Main Street and River Road. Total project cost remains within the $400,000 budgeted.
- motion:Approve Change Order No. 1 for the 2017 Wayfinding Project Phase 2 in an amount not to exceed $50,991 from Pablocki Sign Company. (passed)
Main Street by River RoadSims ParkU.S. Highway 19Pablocki Sign CompanyMr. RiveraMr. Ullman2017 Wayfinding Project Phase 2Capital Improvement ProgramChange Order No. 1▶ Jump to 1:05:42 in the videoShow transcriptHide transcript
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[01:05:42] Next, 2017 Wayfinding Project Phase 2, Change Order No. 1. [01:05:48] Mr. Rivera, if you could present. [01:05:51] This item for your consideration is Change Order No. 1 in the amount not to exceed $50,991 from Pablocki Sign Company. [01:06:01] This change order is part of the Wayfinding Phase 2 project. [01:06:05] The change order includes a $10,000 not to exceed owner's contingency. [01:06:12] We're getting close towards the end of the project. [01:06:14] We don't really expect there to be any additional requests for funds for this project, [01:06:19] but we wanted to put something in there just in case a surprise comes up at the end and we didn't want to delay it any further. [01:06:28] The change order includes additional signposts and bases. [01:06:33] A lot of these signposts are custom made. [01:06:36] It's cheaper to make them in a bulk form. [01:06:40] So what we wanted to do was have a few of those in stock to where if a vehicle hits them, [01:06:45] we'll be able to have those in stock and not have to pay extra money and also wait for additional fabrication timeline. [01:06:53] It also includes a Sims Park kiosk sign. [01:06:57] It included letter modifications on a lot of the signs to more of a 3D look. [01:07:02] It included a gateway monument sign located at U.S. Highway 19. [01:07:07] And then it also included an LED board on the monument sign that would be right there on Main Street by River Road. [01:07:16] And so we would recommend that you approve the change order. [01:07:19] Thank you. [01:07:20] And the last thing I wanted to tell you was the funds are identified in the capital improvement program. [01:07:26] The initial contract that we came to you was for $326,700. [01:07:32] The additional $52,000 or whatever it is that we're asking will still fall within the $400,000 that we had budgeted for the project. [01:07:42] Very good. [01:07:43] Open it up for public comment. [01:07:45] Seeing no one come forward, bring it back to council. [01:07:48] Move for approval. [01:07:53] Second. [01:07:54] To the maker. [01:07:55] No, I'm liking the way that we're identifying and putting up the signs. [01:08:00] It's really starting to look really nice. [01:08:02] The second? [01:08:03] No, hopefully it'll look good. [01:08:04] It seems like $400,000 for signs. [01:08:06] It seems nothing's cheap anymore. [01:08:09] That's all. [01:08:11] No. [01:08:12] Mr. Ullman? [01:08:13] No, sir. [01:08:14] Deputy Mayor? [01:08:15] I have gotten a lot of good comments about the signage is going up because it doesn't look good. [01:08:19] But you were right. [01:08:20] None of this stuff is cheap anymore. [01:08:23] There's no further discussion. [01:08:24] All those in favor, please signify by saying aye. [01:08:26] Aye. [01:08:27] Opposed? [01:08:28] Like sign.
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Resolution No. 2020-04: Supporting SB182 Re: Regulation of Auxiliary Containers, Wrappings or Plastic Bags or Use or Sale of Polystyrene
approvedCouncil adopted Resolution 2020-04 supporting Florida Senate Bill 182, which would repeal state preemption and allow local governments to regulate single-use plastic bags and polystyrene materials. One citizen spoke in favor; the resolution passed unanimously.
Ord. Resolution No. 2020-04
- motion:Motion to approve Resolution 2020-04 supporting SB 182 regarding regulation of auxiliary containers, plastic bags, and polystyrene. (passed)
6041 Florida AvenueJohn CainMr. MurphyMs. MansonFlorida Statutes Section 403.7033Florida Statutes Section 500.90Resolution 2020-04Senate Bill 182▶ Jump to 1:08:29 in the videoShow transcriptHide transcript
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[01:08:29] Motion passes. [01:08:30] Next, Resolution 2020-04, supporting Senate Bill 128, RE Regulation of Auxiliary Containers, Wrappings, Plastic Bags, or Use and Sale of Polystyrene. [01:08:43] This is Resolution 2020-04, a resolution of the City Council of the City of New Port Richey, Florida, [01:08:49] strongly encouraging the State Legislature to approve Senate Bill 182 and any companion House bills [01:08:54] relating to the preemption of recyclable and polystyrene materials by amending Section 403.7033 and Section 500.90, [01:09:03] Florida statutes repealing the preemption of local laws regarding the use or sale of single-use plastic bags and polystyrene materials. [01:09:12] Ms. Manson, do you? [01:09:16] The purpose of the agenda item is so that the City can enact appropriate legislation, [01:09:23] legislation that's consistent with its goals of waste reduction and recycling. [01:09:29] It relates specifically to single-use bags and polystyrene containers. [01:09:35] It is twofold. [01:09:36] It is both asking to repeal two sections of the Florida statute as well as supporting a resolution related to proposed Senate Bill 182, [01:09:50] which would allow the City to regulate those materials. [01:09:56] Thank you. [01:09:57] Open it up for public comment. [01:10:04] John Cain, 6041 Florida Avenue. [01:10:07] I would just like to say I would encourage you all to, I'm hoping for a unanimous vote to get this through. [01:10:15] A lot of other cities are doing it. [01:10:17] I'm sure you all heard that. [01:10:19] I mean, there's a big push now. [01:10:21] We're realizing that what was a good idea when I was a kid, everything was in a paper bag. [01:10:29] And we thought it was a great idea when plastic came out in these lighter bags and you could fit so much in there. [01:10:36] And now we're finding out when so many of them are churning up in the stomachs of marine animals and different things [01:10:44] and plastics don't seem to dissipate the way paper does, that it's really not such a good idea. [01:10:51] All we're trying to do, I think, as a people is maybe save our planet for our kids and our grandkids and everybody [01:10:59] and try and get all these things in line. [01:11:03] We often talk about business decisions is going to hurt a business. [01:11:06] I think a lot of that stuff has been hashed out. [01:11:09] It's pennies. [01:11:10] It's really pennies. [01:11:11] And the way the science is anymore, it's really not a difference. [01:11:18] So a lot of these products are being made to be biodegradable. [01:11:24] And they're even less expensive than plastic. [01:11:28] So this is just a step in that direction. [01:11:31] I mean, you're going to have things that are going to come before you to actually vote on. [01:11:35] But this would be shows that we at least are concerned. [01:11:40] Thank you, Mr. Cain. [01:11:41] Anyone else? [01:11:43] Seeing no one else come forward, bring it back to Council. [01:11:47] Move for approval. [01:11:48] Second. [01:11:49] To the maker. [01:11:50] To the second. [01:11:51] Yes, sir. [01:11:52] Mr. Murphy. [01:11:54] Let us decide. [01:11:57] Deputy Mayor. [01:11:58] No comments. [01:11:59] Thank you. [01:12:00] This is one of my pet items, which is the preemption of city governments by the state. [01:12:12] And this is basically asking the state to remove the preemption that previously had been added to the Florida statutes. [01:12:21] This is the sort of decision that ought to be made in a local community. [01:12:26] It does not need to be made in Tallahassee. [01:12:29] So with that, if there's no further discussion, all those in favor, please signify by saying aye. [01:12:34] Aye. [01:12:35] Opposed, like sign.
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Three Minute Report: Finance
tabledThe three-minute finance report was deferred because the finance staff member was sent home earlier due to illness. The Mayor directed that in the future, ill staff should call in by phone rather than appear in person.
- direction:Council directed that staff who are ill should be brought in by phone for presentations rather than required to attend in person. (none)
- direction:The three-minute finance report was deferred to be rescheduled when the finance presenter is feeling better. (tabled)
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[01:12:36] Motion passes. [01:12:39] We're going to dispense with the three-minute report from finance since we sent finance home earlier. [01:12:45] We'll reschedule that when she's feeling better. [01:12:49] And as I mentioned to Ms. Manns, not wishing the flu on any of our staff, but please, the next time this happens, [01:12:58] if they need to make a presentation, let's bring them in by phone and don't make them come out here.
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