Council adopted Resolution 2020-03 letting unpaid code enforcement fines ride on property tax bills, passed rental permit fee changes, and took up a fine schedule rewrite.
17 items on the agenda · 11 decisions recorded
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- 1Call to Order – Roll Call▶ 0:00
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Pledge of Allegiance
Pledge of Allegiance and a moment of silence in honor of servicemen and women.
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[00:00:20] I ask you all to please stand, join me in the Pledge of Allegiance, and remain standing [00:00:21] for a moment of silence in honor of our servicemen and women at home and abroad. [00:00:24] I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for [00:00:29] which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
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Moment of Silence
The council observed a moment of silence as a procedural opening to the meeting.
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Approval of December 3, 2019 Regular Meeting Minutes
approvedCouncil approved the minutes from the December 3, 2019 regular meeting.
- motion:Approve the December 3, 2019 regular meeting minutes. (passed)
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[00:00:48] Next item on the agenda is the approval of December 3rd regular meeting minutes. [00:00:53] Move for approval. [00:00:54] Second. [00:00:55] All those in favor, please signify by saying aye. [00:00:59] Aye. [00:01:00] Aye. [00:01:01] Opposed, like sign.
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- 5Vox Pop for Items Not Listed on the Agenda or Listed on Consent Agenda▶ 1:03
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Purchases/Payments for City Council Approval
approvedon consentCouncil approved the consent agenda with the addition of item 8F, which administration requested be moved from business items since it required no discussion.
- motion:Approve the consent agenda with the addition of item 8F. (passed)
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[00:03:43] bike path. [00:03:44] Nobody on the west coast of Florida would have a bike path like us. [00:03:47] So please consider it. [00:03:48] And thank you. [00:03:49] Thank you, Mr. Cain. [00:03:50] Anyone else? [00:03:53] Seeing no one else come forward, I'll close Vox Pop. [00:03:56] Next item is the consent agenda. [00:03:59] Mr. Mayor, with your permission, the administration is recommending that item 8F be added to the [00:04:04] consent agenda. [00:04:06] It was inadvertently listed as a business item, and since it requires no discussion, [00:04:13] we are requesting that you include it as a consent agenda item. [00:04:19] Move to approve the consent agenda with the addition of item 8F. [00:04:24] Second. [00:04:25] Second. [00:04:27] All those in favor, please signify by saying aye. [00:04:30] Aye. [00:04:31] Aye. [00:04:32] Opposed? [00:04:33] Like sign. [00:04:34] Motion passes. [00:04:37] Next is public reading of ordinance.
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Consideration of Amendments to the FY19 Adopted Budget
approvedItem 8.f, Consideration of Amendments to the FY19 Adopted Budget, was moved from the business agenda to the consent agenda at the administration's request and approved as part of the consent agenda without discussion.
- motion:Move to approve the consent agenda with the addition of item 8F (FY19 Budget Amendments). (passed)
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[00:03:43] bike path. [00:03:44] Nobody on the west coast of Florida would have a bike path like us. [00:03:47] So please consider it. [00:03:48] And thank you. [00:03:49] Thank you, Mr. Cain. [00:03:50] Anyone else? [00:03:53] Seeing no one else come forward, I'll close Vox Pop. [00:03:56] Next item is the consent agenda. [00:03:59] Mr. Mayor, with your permission, the administration is recommending that item 8F be added to the [00:04:04] consent agenda. [00:04:06] It was inadvertently listed as a business item, and since it requires no discussion, [00:04:13] we are requesting that you include it as a consent agenda item. [00:04:19] Move to approve the consent agenda with the addition of item 8F. [00:04:24] Second. [00:04:25] Second. [00:04:27] All those in favor, please signify by saying aye. [00:04:30] Aye. [00:04:31] Aye. [00:04:32] Opposed? [00:04:33] Like sign. [00:04:34] Motion passes. [00:04:37] Next is public reading of ordinance.
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First Reading, Ordinance No. 2020-2178: Amendments to Uniform Fine Schedule
discussedFirst reading of Ordinance 2020-2178 to amend the uniform fine schedule, correcting a prior error where police department fines were adopted by resolution rather than ordinance. The amendment also adds miscellaneous offenses including building/bearing of deposited trash and discharging of arrows, bolts, and projectiles. Staff recommended approval.
Ord. Ordinance No. 2020-2178
- direction:Staff recommended approval of the proposed ordinance with revisions and adoption of the fine schedule at first reading. (none)
Mr. DriscollMr. JoinerOrdinance No. 2020-2178Section 1-14 Chapter 1Section 2-240 Article 8 Chapter 2Section 2-30 Article 8 Chapter 2Uniform Fine Schedule▶ Jump to 4:41 in the videoShow transcriptHide transcript
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[00:04:41] This is first reading of ordinance 2020-2178, and I would like to recognize the fact that [00:04:47] we've got Mr. Joiner in the back of the audience. [00:04:51] Thank you for coming to attend. [00:04:53] He is our property appraiser, and it's always good to see folks from the county working [00:05:00] with us to make things happen. [00:05:03] Mr. Mayor, the agenda item that Mr. Joiner is here to support relates to the use of the [00:05:15] uniform method in respect to the collection of code enforcement fines. [00:05:22] And I thought since we were going to be hitting both that and the uniform fine schedule at [00:05:28] the same time, make sure we recognize the fact that he's chosen to come and spend some [00:05:34] time with us. [00:05:35] Mr. Driscoll. [00:05:36] Ordinance number 2020-2178, an ordinance of the city of New Port Richey, Florida, providing [00:05:41] for amendment of section 1-14 of chapter 1 of the New Port Richey Code of Ordinances [00:05:45] pertaining to penalties for violations of the city code, providing for amendment of [00:05:49] section 2-30 of article 8 of chapter 2 of the Code of Ordinances pertaining to definitions [00:05:54] in chapter 2 of the city code, providing for amendment of section 2-240 of article 8 of [00:05:59] chapter 2 of the Code of Ordinances pertaining to the uniform fine schedule, providing for [00:06:03] an amended uniform fine schedule, providing for conflict, severability, and effective [00:06:06] date. [00:06:07] Yes, ma'am. [00:06:08] Yes, sir. [00:06:09] Mr. Mayor. [00:06:10] When the fee schedule was adopted for the 19-20 fiscal year, the fines for the police [00:06:22] department were included in the resolution to adopt the fee schedule. [00:06:30] That was an error, and fines actually must be adopted by ordinance, therefore, we're [00:06:37] bringing this matter back to you so that we have an ordinance to support the fine schedule. [00:06:47] In addition to correcting the error, we have included additional verbiage so that the building [00:06:56] and bearing of deposited trash, as well as the discharging of arrows, bolts, and projectiles [00:07:05] have been added as miscellaneous offenses in the fine schedule. [00:07:13] With that, the staff is recommending that you approve the proposed ordinance with the [00:07:18] revisions and the adoption of the fine schedule. [00:07:21] Thank you. [00:07:22] I'll open it up for public comment. [00:07:25] Seeing no one, come forward and bring it back to council.
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Second Reading, Ordinance No. 2019-2174 RE: Amendment to Residential Rental Permit Ordinance
approvedCouncil adopted on second reading Ordinance 2019-2174, amending Section 6-130 of the City Code to remove the specific residential rental permit fee from the ordinance and instead allow the fee to be set by resolution. The current fee is $50, up from the original $35.
Ord. Ordinance No. 2019-2174
- motion:Motion to approve second reading of Ordinance 2019-2174 amending Section 6-130 regarding residential rental permit fees. (passed)
AltmanMansonOrdinance 2019-2174Residential Rental Permit Inspection ProgramSection 6-130 Newport Richey Code of Ordinances▶ Jump to 7:27 in the videoShow transcriptHide transcript
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[00:07:30] For approval. [00:07:31] Second. [00:07:32] To the maker. [00:07:33] Nothing. [00:07:34] Second. [00:07:35] Nothing. [00:07:36] Deputy Mayor. [00:07:37] I have no comments on this one at this time. [00:07:40] Thank you. [00:07:41] Mr. Altman. [00:07:42] Nor do I. [00:07:43] In that case, there's no further discussion. [00:07:44] All those in favor, please signify by saying aye. [00:07:46] Aye. [00:07:47] Opposed? [00:07:48] The like sign. [00:07:49] The motion passes. [00:07:50] Next, second reading ordinance 2019-2174. [00:07:53] Ordinance number 2019-2174, an ordinance of the City of New Port Richey, Florida, providing [00:07:57] for amendment of section 6-130 of the New Port Richey Code of Ordinances pertaining to residential [00:08:01] rental permit fees, providing for establishment of the fees by resolution, providing for complex [00:08:06] severability and effective date. [00:08:08] Ms. Manson. [00:08:10] Mr. Mayor, when the city adopted the residential rental permit inspection program, there was [00:08:19] a $35 fee assigned to the annual inspection and registration of rental units. [00:08:29] Since that time, the fee has been amended and it is now $50. [00:08:36] The purpose of this agenda item, in large part, is to remove the reference to the fee [00:08:44] in the ordinance and instead reference the fee as an annual permit fee, which may be [00:08:50] amended by resolution by the City Council from time to time. [00:08:54] Thank you. [00:08:55] I'll open it up for public comment. [00:08:57] Seeing no one, come forward. [00:08:58] Bring it back to Council. [00:08:59] Move for approval. [00:09:00] Second. [00:09:01] To the maker. [00:09:02] It was just administrative. [00:09:03] I have no problem with this. [00:09:04] Second. [00:09:05] Nothing. [00:09:06] Mr. Allman. [00:09:07] I'm good. [00:09:08] Deputy Mayor. [00:09:09] I'm good as well. [00:09:10] In that case, all those in favor, please signify by saying aye. [00:09:13] Aye. [00:09:14] Opposed?
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Resolution No. 2020-03: Uniform Method of Collection for Non Ad-Valorem Assessments
approvedCouncil adopted Resolution 2020-03 authorizing the uniform method of collecting non-ad valorem assessments, allowing unpaid code enforcement fines to be placed on property tax bills via the Pasco County Property Appraiser and Tax Collector. Discussion focused on due process, notifications to property owners, protections for investors purchasing foreclosed properties, and council oversight of which liens get placed on tax bills.
Ord. Resolution No. 2020-03
- motion:Motion to approve Resolution 2020-03 authorizing the uniform method of collection of non-ad valorem assessments for code enforcement fines. (passed)
6041 Florida AvenueArgus buildingCity of Dade CityCity of ZephyrhillsPasco County Property AppraiserPasco County Tax CollectorCouncilman DavisCouncilman StarkeyJohn CainMike FasanoMr. JoynerMr. MarloweMr. MurphyMs. MannsMs. VanceAugust TRIM noticesCode enforcement liensNon-ad valorem assessmentsResolution 2020-03Uniform Method of Collection▶ Jump to 9:16 in the videoShow transcriptHide transcript
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[00:09:16] Motion passes. [00:09:17] Next, resolution 2020-03. [00:09:18] Resolution 2020-03, a resolution of the City Council of the City of New Port Richey, Florida, [00:09:26] authorizing the uniform method of collection of non-ad valorem assessments, authorizing [00:09:30] the Pasco County Property Appraiser to provide notices, authorizing the Pasco County Task [00:09:34] Collector to collect City Code enforcement fines imposed as liens on properties within [00:09:39] the City and other liens as described in Exhibit A attached here to as provided herein. [00:09:44] Ms. Vance. [00:09:45] Yes, sir. [00:09:46] The Florida statutes provide an opportunity for cities with the authority to impose non-ad [00:09:54] valorem assessments for fees which are not based on millage and which can become a lien [00:10:00] on a homestead. [00:10:02] In respect to code enforcement infractions, we have experienced a reluctance on the part [00:10:12] of violators to pay for their code enforcement fines in spite of the fact that multiple methods [00:10:22] of collection have been tried. [00:10:27] Mr. Joyner has been very cooperative with us, as has Mr. Fasano, and they have agreed [00:10:34] to allow us to place code enforcement fines on tax bills. [00:10:42] There have been three letters sent out to property owners in order to provide them an [00:10:52] opportunity to prevent their fees from being placed on their tax bills. [00:10:58] A number of people have paid. [00:11:00] A considerable number of people still have not. [00:11:04] It is our plan, if you approve the resolution and authorize this method of collection related [00:11:14] to code enforcement fines, that a fourth letter will be sent. [00:11:20] The fourth letter will, of course, indicate that the amount owed will be placed on the [00:11:27] October tax bill if payment is not made in advance of the date that those fines need [00:11:36] to be notified to Mr. Joyner. [00:11:43] It will also indicate that no payment arrangements or reduction in fees can occur after it's [00:11:49] been placed on the tax bill, which is important to know. [00:11:57] From the staff's perspective, in addition to an improved rate of collection on these [00:12:04] fines, I think that the imposition via the uniform method will result in a heightened [00:12:12] sensitivity to the appropriate standards of stewardship for people's properties, and therefore [00:12:19] we're recommending that you consider approval of the method. [00:12:22] Thank you. [00:12:23] I'll open it up for public comment. [00:12:27] John Cain, 6041 Florida Avenue. [00:12:31] Okay, so it's going to really sound like I don't know much, I guess, but I probably don't. [00:12:40] I was under the impression that we had a process when there were violations, and so that you [00:12:48] more or less got a day in court in front of a magistrate if you disputed a fine or something, [00:12:57] and that was like a court, even though it's not technically a court, but at that point [00:13:00] you would be deemed whether or not you were responsible, or if you had an excuse, your [00:13:05] fines were waived or whatever have you. [00:13:08] And so at that point when you're fined, it was my understanding what cities usually did [00:13:13] was if you didn't pay your fine, your fine got levied against your house and it got compounded, [00:13:22] and I mean it could stay like that until the day you either died and that went to probate [00:13:27] or that you sold it some way, this city was going to get satisfied. [00:13:33] I don't know if I'm accurate with that or not accurate, and if so, if I am, does this [00:13:41] change that process? [00:13:42] Why are we attaching a fine to a tax bill, and then are the people, I mean I'm assuming [00:13:52] they're notified via certified mail. [00:13:55] If I'm going to be fined let's say for something, I mean would I know it? [00:14:00] Is there still that process to where a certified letter would be delivered to me to where I'm [00:14:05] aware that I'm in violation and how much it's going to be, and I mean is that, I mean it [00:14:12] seems to me that it's real easy sometimes when I hear an ordinance and it seems like [00:14:16] a great resolve for something until you start applying real life situations to it. [00:14:22] And I've seen that when I deliver mail to people and they open up and they find out [00:14:26] or they're not there. [00:14:28] They're gone for three months and they didn't get that piece of mail and now it's, so what [00:14:32] I'm afraid is that once we tag that on, from what I just heard, it's not going to be disputable [00:14:38] anymore once it's on there. [00:14:40] And I don't know, I don't know if that's just simply a good thing to do or not. [00:14:44] That's why I'm questioning the whole process and what's tied into it. [00:14:47] Thank you Mr. Cain. [00:14:49] I'll give you a scenario which actually, because it kind of goes into a question for you as [00:14:53] well, I'll give you a scenario. [00:14:55] I've been approached by investors that are making a good amount of money in our city. [00:15:00] right now and helping to beautify and increase property values around the homes that they're [00:15:04] investing and I've been contacted by more than once on several occasions where, and [00:15:09] correct me if I'm wrong if I'm speaking because it kind of ties into the question for y'all [00:15:14] as to how this is going to work with this certain scenario. [00:15:17] So an investor buys the, what they call buying a property off the courthouse, right? [00:15:21] It's bank owned, owner walked away, walked away from his co-violation fines and whatnot. [00:15:28] There's no, when that happens, there's no disclosures. [00:15:31] A bank for whatever reason doesn't have to disclose these things. [00:15:34] They buy it as seen basically. [00:15:37] They have no idea there's fines there. [00:15:38] Did it come out in a title search or something? [00:15:41] For some reason it doesn't with title search, I'm sure Mr. Joyner can clarify. [00:15:45] So we're having, I've had investors contact me that are doing a really, really good job. [00:15:49] Not just flipping homes and making money, I'm talking the couple that I'm referencing [00:15:55] are doing a phenomenal job purchasing homes that are bank owned, increasing the value, [00:16:01] landscape everything, selling them, making money. [00:16:04] But on more than one occasion, they found out after they purchased the property that [00:16:08] there's sometimes, I mean one was up to $10,000 in accruing violations for co-violations and [00:16:15] just one thing after another where the fines kept increasing. [00:16:18] They were never addressed. [00:16:19] They don't know that until this is, they purchased the property because there's no disclosures. [00:16:23] So my question is, will that solve that problem by having on the tax bill if the house were [00:16:30] to go to foreclosure? [00:16:31] Mr. Joyner, I mean, is that a question for Mr. Joyner? [00:16:35] Because that's an issue that I've had brought to me and I agree with him 100%. [00:16:39] Right, if it was going to correct that, then I could see some sense to the process. [00:16:43] But if it's not, if it's still going to be ambiguous, then my question goes. [00:16:47] Let's let Mr. Joyner address it. [00:16:50] Our goal here was never to change what the city does in your process to get those liens [00:16:55] on there and to get the folks notified. [00:16:57] What my process was and has been a long, Mr. Marlowe knows, I have long ties that I was [00:17:04] born and raised in this city. [00:17:05] So I do want it to go back to the way it was when I was a child. [00:17:09] One way to do that, as I thought, was to, you know, those liens that are outstanding [00:17:13] for 10 years, 20 years where, no offense, you have folks that are never going to pay [00:17:17] them until they die or their kids sell the house down the road. [00:17:21] That's money that you can spend today and not 20 years from now. [00:17:26] So my goal was to put them on the tax bill. [00:17:28] I'm not going to tell you which ones to put on there. [00:17:30] That's up to you to tell us which ones you want on there. [00:17:32] But the minute they pay that, they're over and done. [00:17:35] You'll get your money. [00:17:36] And you're also going to get your money right away. [00:17:38] This isn't a wait and see for 10 years. [00:17:41] This is, if they don't pay their tax bill, say this investor or we'll call them whatever, [00:17:45] this landlord is in Michigan and they own three houses here and they have 10,000 in [00:17:50] code violations. [00:17:51] You're going to get your money right away. [00:17:53] And the reason is, if they don't pay their tax bill, Mr. Fasano is going to sell a tax [00:17:57] certificate on it. [00:17:58] That investor is going to pay and you automatically get your money. [00:18:01] And there's a certificate held and that's somebody else on down the road. [00:18:05] So you automatically are getting your money. [00:18:08] I'm not going to tell you which ones to put on there. [00:18:10] That's all up to you. [00:18:12] We just wanted to find out a way and try this. [00:18:15] I've done a few with the city of Dane City and a few with the city of Zephyr Hills. [00:18:19] For their violations, it's worked really well. [00:18:21] They get their money right away. [00:18:22] They satisfy liens. [00:18:23] They move on. [00:18:25] And not to say that it won't come back in a couple of years because they start all over [00:18:28] again. [00:18:29] But again, we would do it again if we needed to. [00:18:31] So if I may, if I'm understanding you correctly, the city is going to get their money but that [00:18:34] doesn't protect an investor from buying a home with no disclosures on having, because [00:18:39] now he owes Fasano money instead of owing us, correct? [00:18:43] No. [00:18:44] But it depends on when the tax bill is going to be paid. [00:18:46] It depends on when that investor is going to buy the home. [00:18:48] If they're going to buy it prior to the tax sale, they're going to be notified because [00:18:52] it's going to be on the bill. [00:18:53] What I plan to do is put it on the August trim notices also. [00:18:56] So it's a warning well in advance. [00:18:57] It's not a surprise when you get your bill on November 1st, I have a code violation for [00:19:01] New Port Richey that I didn't pay. [00:19:03] We're going to let them know in August because I want someone, your staff, to let us know [00:19:07] in August, hey, here's my list I want on there. [00:19:10] We're going to put them on there then and they're going to know then that it's coming. [00:19:13] So they're going to have several months of well in advance. [00:19:16] It'll be on our website. [00:19:18] We'll have it out there so it's no different than any other non-ad valorem tax. [00:19:21] When you pull up our website, it's going to be listed on there. [00:19:25] The dollar amount and who to contact to pay it. [00:19:28] If they want to pay it separately or it's going to go on the bill and that's up to you. [00:19:31] That would seem to protect the investors. [00:19:33] I mean, it's going to be very transparent. [00:19:36] Like I said, it'll be on the website, it'll be on the August trim notices and on the bill. [00:19:40] So we're going to do it every way we can to make sure it's out there, that there's [00:19:43] no surprises. [00:19:44] But if they're walking away from the house and the tax bill, which has those co-violations [00:19:49] included in the tax bill, that could still go to the investor, correct? [00:19:52] Correct. [00:19:53] Okay. [00:19:54] So it doesn't solve that problem 100%. [00:19:55] It helps. [00:19:56] It helps. [00:19:57] It brings it down to a year and not 10 years. [00:19:58] Yeah. [00:19:59] Exactly. [00:20:00] Yeah, you're not looking at a $10,000 investment. [00:20:03] It may be $1,000 or $1,500 versus or whatever. [00:20:07] I just want to make a motion so we can discuss it. [00:20:10] I'm going to make a motion to approve this ordinance. [00:20:14] I believe I have 40 seconds. [00:20:17] I have 40 seconds. [00:20:20] I have 40 seconds. [00:20:21] Good. [00:20:22] I'm okay with it if you are. [00:20:23] Yeah, fine. [00:20:24] Thank you. [00:20:25] Thank you. [00:20:26] I feel like I'm in Congress now. [00:20:28] So I guess my... [00:20:29] Does that mean we get a raise? [00:20:32] No, go ahead. [00:20:36] Thank you. [00:20:37] So my question to you is that before it goes on to the tax, does it get presented since [00:20:44] it's still a city function, let's say I'm in violation, does it come before a council [00:20:51] before it goes on to the tax records? [00:20:55] Who is the deciding? [00:20:58] Who decides? [00:20:59] Because that's a kind of a hefty kind of thing to have in your hands, the ability to throw [00:21:04] something on someone's tax bill for a violation that maybe could have been verbally straightened [00:21:10] out. [00:21:11] Does somebody come to you? [00:21:12] No, I think she said that they get three notices in the mail. [00:21:16] Is one of them registered or is all three? [00:21:18] And we also conduct a public hearing at which time everyone who is to be named on the roll [00:21:25] transmitted to the appraiser is notified. [00:21:29] Is any of that registered? [00:21:30] Any of those mailings? [00:21:31] Yes, they are. [00:21:32] So there you go. [00:21:33] There you go. [00:21:34] They've got at least three notices or four before it goes on there. [00:21:38] Do you want to subtract the time we've talked from your 40 seconds or you've still got more? [00:21:43] Would you? [00:21:44] No. [00:21:45] That's it. [00:21:46] All right. [00:21:47] Anyone else? [00:21:48] Do we have a second? [00:21:49] We have a motion. [00:21:50] Second. [00:21:51] And a second to the maker. [00:21:54] Okay. [00:21:55] So the action we're being asked to take has been clarified by Mr. Joyner is to have that [00:22:02] ability for us to do this. [00:22:05] There ought to be, and I would agree with John who has posed the question, there ought [00:22:10] to be some continued discussion about which ones we put on, how we put them on. [00:22:16] You know, I had the privilege of being involved in this process when we were trying to send [00:22:22] out those amnesty letters and some of you all were still on it. [00:22:26] I know Councilman Davis and probably Councilman Starkey were also, you as well maybe, Mr. [00:22:33] Mayor. [00:22:34] I'm not sure. [00:22:35] But we had a lot of problem in communicating and there were some that were, you know, again, [00:22:42] $10,000, $20,000 amounts and we were trying to negotiate them down. [00:22:47] I know there was some research that was done at the time that showed that the courts generally, [00:22:51] with respect to liens, if they were litigated, that some of them were seen to be onerous [00:22:59] and so there were some rule of thumbs about how much. [00:23:01] In other words, I don't think that we could expect maybe even an investor to buy a tax [00:23:07] notice if we put a $20,000 or $30,000 lien or tax bill out. [00:23:16] So there is a power of what we're doing and I think what I heard and what I liked what [00:23:21] I heard was the city manager indicating that this is another way for the finance department [00:23:26] in the city to say, this is serious, you better come in and talk to us because our biggest [00:23:31] problem was getting people to come in and talk to us. [00:23:35] And if somebody does have a lien or a code enforcement action for a peeled paint on their [00:23:41] wall and the old gentleman that I can recall, the particular case I recall, he just never [00:23:47] paid attention to it. [00:23:48] It grew and grew and grew. [00:23:51] And when we were happy to try to make an arrangement, I want to be able to have that discussion [00:23:56] with the city council, how we deal with that. [00:23:59] If they came to us and said, you know, would you accept payments? [00:24:03] We have the option to say, yes, and you can pay it over the next 10 years on your tax [00:24:09] bill. [00:24:10] So, you know, if people want to be reasonable and I think that I will be advocating that [00:24:15] some of those big cases come back to us on the city council before we put them on, that [00:24:20] we can have that discussion about the parameters and the authority that we give to the staff. [00:24:26] Because once we see a big giant one go on the tax bill, it could spoil the whole process [00:24:32] for us if we seem to be overreaching and using that power of the tax collection. [00:24:38] I appreciated his comment. [00:24:40] That's my feelings. [00:24:41] Yes, sir. [00:24:42] You know, if you've got a $20,000 bill and you don't want to hit him with the whole 20,000, [00:24:47] if you want to break it up over 10 years, we're going to take whatever dollar amount [00:24:50] you give us. [00:24:51] So, that's your business. [00:24:52] That's the city's business if you break it up over 5 years or 10 years. [00:24:56] That is not on us. [00:24:57] We had problems. [00:24:58] We did make those agreements and then the individuals didn't stick to them. [00:25:02] So, this gives us an opportunity to maybe continue to be a kind and gentle city, but [00:25:09] also get our money and I think it's a good deal. [00:25:12] That's why I made the motion for it. [00:25:14] I've said as much as John did by now, I think, so I'll let it go to the second here. [00:25:20] To the second. [00:25:21] I think we'd have to come up with a better process and this is it. [00:25:25] At least they'll be notified, you know, a year out of any fines. [00:25:29] I can't imagine they get a $20,000 fine in one year, so anybody that did take over property [00:25:34] or didn't catch on there, it wouldn't be that much of a huge amount. [00:25:39] So, I think everybody kind of wins with that. [00:25:42] We get our money and investors are still not blindsided by huge, huge fines, so. [00:25:49] Deputy Mayor. [00:25:50] Just a quick side question. [00:25:52] Like, when I want clarification, are we able to have discussion before a motion is made? [00:25:58] Yes. [00:25:59] Okay. [00:26:00] Thank you for clarifying that. [00:26:01] And then, so the letters that are going out to the residents, those are just going out [00:26:04] to the residents with current unpaid fines, correct? [00:26:09] The letters are going out to those that have unpaid fines for the last 3.5 years. [00:26:15] 3.5 years. [00:26:16] Okay. [00:26:17] I like this. [00:26:18] I think it's a big deal, though. [00:26:20] Putting any kind of fine or anything on someone's tax bill is a big deal, and I think we need [00:26:24] to figure out a very productive way to notify all of our property owners, both homesteaded [00:26:30] properties and non-homesteaded properties, that this is happening. [00:26:34] If you don't pay your code enforcement fines and they accrue, we have the power to put [00:26:38] them on your tax bill. [00:26:40] I don't know if it's just a bridge newsletter, or, you know, I know communication sometimes [00:26:45] seems to be an issue with residents and decisions that we make up here, but with something, [00:26:52] to me, as such a big deal as this one, I'd like to come up with a way to notify our residents [00:26:58] that this is what we're doing and you need to pay your code enforcement fines or this [00:27:01] is what's going to happen. [00:27:02] We'll work with the local property. [00:27:03] My biggest deal was just to give you the method of collecting them. [00:27:06] Absolutely. [00:27:07] Whatever you give them to us and which ones you give us and whatever behind the scenes [00:27:11] you want to do, that's yours. [00:27:12] Right. [00:27:13] I just want to be able to give you a method of way of collecting some of your money, if [00:27:17] not all of it. [00:27:18] And I appreciate you working with us and working with Ms. Manns to get to where we're at right [00:27:20] now. [00:27:21] Like I said, I'm here for whatever you want. [00:27:22] That's up to you, whatever you guys want to do. [00:27:25] Thank you very much. [00:27:26] All right. [00:27:27] Mr. Davis. [00:27:28] I just, I want to bring up an example. [00:27:29] That this had maybe limited the time we had to wait on the Argus building? [00:27:44] Probably not, because that was a compliance issue and in that particular case, I filed [00:27:49] a lawsuit against the owner and that's what finally got them to move. [00:27:53] But I mean, [00:27:54] This might have helped, I guess. [00:27:55] But I mean, in the beginning, when they were not doing anything, then it would be on their [00:27:59] tax bill and they would [00:28:00] Correct. [00:28:01] It doesn't, nothing in this will require anyone to actually improve their property versus [00:28:08] Right. [00:28:09] Well, we would have got their fine money. [00:28:10] Potentially. [00:28:11] And, you know, there could have been a foreclosure, which could have taken place through the tax [00:28:16] bill, you know, a tax sale. [00:28:18] But we filed for a foreclosure and for injunctive relief. [00:28:21] So the injunctive relief gives the court the power to order someone to do the things that [00:28:25] they're required to do. [00:28:27] You don't get that from the tax bill. [00:28:29] I can't make somebody through the tax bill actually improve their property. [00:28:33] But they're seeing the fines and they're being made aware, because we have other properties [00:28:37] like that we're dealing with right now in town. [00:28:39] And I just want to know, that might be just a little jar to get them. [00:28:43] These are all just mechanisms to get people to maintain their property and there's a lot [00:28:47] of different ways to do it. [00:28:48] I will say that in answer to Mr. Cain's question, that there is due process before they get [00:28:53] to this stage. [00:28:54] So everyone's had their day through whatever tribunal is available, and usually it's the [00:28:59] magistrate in these particular cases. [00:29:01] These are liens that are already existing. [00:29:03] So that's what's being enforced. [00:29:05] Those liens are available to find out. [00:29:08] You can request from the development department for a lien status of any city liens. [00:29:14] Some city liens don't have to be recorded. [00:29:16] These happen to be recorded. [00:29:18] They also will show up in a title search. [00:29:20] For any investor that's looking to buy property and doesn't get a title search, then they're [00:29:23] missing the opportunity to find these liens through that mechanism as well. [00:29:27] This will be another way now that they can check, because now they can check with the [00:29:31] property appraiser and find out if there's any liens that are being notified. [00:29:34] So there's a lot of due process going into this. [00:29:38] So there's many opportunities for someone to pay these and curtail this. [00:29:42] The other thing that I see here that helps, too, is that once it makes it to this, you [00:29:47] know, to their tax bill, that it's not negotiable when they finally come back and want, you [00:29:51] know, help or relief on redoing the building, you know, refinancing, doing whatever they [00:29:59] want to do with the building. [00:30:00] or whatever. All right, thank you. I think that actually may encourage them to come forward. [00:30:07] And just to clarify for Mr. Murphy's benefit, some of these fines are up to $500, and my [00:30:15] understanding is they're per day that they are out of compliance. And so, yes, you can [00:30:22] get a $10,000, $20,000, $30,000 fine in relatively short order. So, obviously, there should be [00:30:36] an incentive to the property owner to come in and talk with city staff and say, look, [00:30:43] I actually did fix this back a month ago. Can we make some arrangement to cut this fine? [00:30:50] Because what has happened, and I've had this conversation with Mrs. Mann, is somebody will [00:30:57] get a notice of violation, and they'll go about and fix it, but they don't bother telling [00:31:01] anybody that they fixed it. And then the fines just keep accruing because we don't know to [00:31:06] turn them off. And that sort of thing still has to be dealt with on a case-by-case basis, [00:31:14] hopefully well before we send a dollar figure to Mr. Joyner to add to the tax bill. [00:31:21] Just one last thing I wanted to add to it. You know, part of the goal was, in wanting [00:31:26] to do this, was Chief Bogart can probably attest to this, how many times, how many resources [00:31:32] he has to use, and other city departments have to use, going back to the same homes, [00:31:36] the same businesses, probably over and over and over. They're repeat offenders. Hopefully [00:31:42] this will slow that down. They have plenty of other things to do, just like the rest [00:31:45] of the city departments have plenty of other things to do, besides going back to the same [00:31:49] business, the same house, over and over with the same issues. So that was another goal. [00:31:54] Thank you. Mr. Allman? [00:31:55] Yeah, just two more things. One, I just want to make sure, all of the discussion beforehand, [00:32:01] I like clarifying issues, so I'm all in favor of having as much discussion as we need to [00:32:05] understand the issues. So my jump to put a motion on was just to get to the chance [00:32:14] to get it rolling. So no problem there. But I would like to go back and talk about the [00:32:21] difference between our utility, which under Florida statutes, and I'm not the lawyer, [00:32:27] but I studied it when I was in that position to know that Florida statutes, an unpaid water [00:32:32] bill becomes a lien. And these other code enforcement liens, and some of the old ones [00:32:38] we had that we had the fines underway, were not as well managed because a lien had to [00:32:48] be filed. And so if someone has a code enforcement charge against them on our books, but our [00:32:56] lien was never recorded, or then the title insurance company wouldn't find it. So if [00:33:04] an investor buys something without using a title insurance company, they're all at risk. [00:33:08] If they use a title company and there was a utility lien, I believe that's on the title [00:33:13] company to say they should have found it because that's what lawyers and title companies do. [00:33:18] They call the municipalities and the finance department, I'm sure, regularly gets calls [00:33:24] on these things to say, what do we have on that property that has to be paid? So, you [00:33:29] know, there are ways for investors to cover themselves by questioning and learning beforehand. [00:33:36] And that's just a little extra work has to be done on their end. But again, on the utility [00:33:42] side, we had a problem with renters who didn't pay their utilities. And then was that going [00:33:49] to be a lien against the owner because it was in the renter's name? And there's a whole [00:33:54] lot of stuff for us to talk about how we can improve our collectability. I appreciate that [00:33:59] this motion gives us that option. I think we're all in agreement. I don't need to say [00:34:03] any more, but I do want to have this discussion with the council and make sure we're all on [00:34:09] the same page as to how our process proceeds. [00:34:12] Just one thing to point out, with these investors, they're buying these homes online. There's [00:34:17] about 300 investors looking at these homes. Could be more than that at the same time. [00:34:22] As they come up, they're gone. So you don't have time to do title search as far as that [00:34:27] goes. [00:34:28] Make a phone call to the city real quick. [00:34:29] Yeah, I mean, you could try that real quick. But, you know, that's another problem we can [00:34:32] try to figure out as well. But, yeah, so this helps at least with the code enforcement fines [00:34:35] for sure.
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Board Re-Appointment: Glenwood Pratt, Police Pension Board
approvedCouncil reaffirmed the reappointment of Glenwood (Glenn) Pratt as a board-elected trustee on the Police Pension Board for a four-year term, following the Police Pension Board's November 26, 2019 vote to reappoint him.
- motion:Motion to approve the reappointment of Glenwood Pratt to the Police Pension Board as board-elected trustee for a four-year term. (passed)
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[00:34:37] Any further discussion? Hearing none, all those in favor, please signify by saying aye. [00:34:42] Aye. [00:34:43] Opposed, like sign. Motion passes. [00:34:46] Next is a board reappointment of Glenn Pratt to the Police Pension Board. [00:34:51] The appointment, Mr. Mayor, is for a four-year period of time. The seat that is to be filled [00:35:01] by Mr. Pratt, if you affirm his reappointment, is as a board-elected trustee. And on November [00:35:11] 26th of 2019, the Police Pension Board voted in favor to reappoint Mr. Pratt to serve as [00:35:20] the board-elected trustee. [00:35:22] Thank you. Open up for public comment. [00:35:25] Move approval. [00:35:26] Second. [00:35:27] Bring it back to council. We have a motion and a second. To the maker? [00:35:30] No. [00:35:31] Second. [00:35:32] I would just like to thank Mr. Pratt. I met him as Sergeant Pratt. And, of course, he's [00:35:38] going to look out for our police department and our police pension program because he's a retiree. [00:35:42] Deputy Mayor? [00:35:43] No, thank you for your service, for sure. [00:35:46] Mr. Murphy? [00:35:47] Thank you for your service. [00:35:48] Likewise. If there's no further discussion, all those in favor, please signify by saying aye.
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Second Reading, Resolution No. 2020-02: 2019 Redevelopment Plan Amendment
approvedCouncil held the second reading of Resolution 2020-02, updating and amending the New Port Richey Community Redevelopment Plan to add specifics on current and potential activities under the CRA authority, in response to October 2019 state legislative action. The resolution passed on a voice vote with no public comment.
Ord. Resolution No. 2020-02
- motion:Motion to approve Resolution 2020-02 amending the Community Redevelopment Plan. (passed)
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[00:35:54] Opposed, like sign. Motion passes. [00:35:56] Next, second reading, Resolution 2020-02. [00:35:59] Resolution number 2020-02, a resolution of the City Council of the City of New Port Richey, Florida, [00:36:04] updating and amending the New Port Richey Community Redevelopment Plan, [00:36:07] providing for approval of the amended Community Redevelopment Plan attached hereto, [00:36:11] providing for legislative findings, providing for implementing administrative actions, [00:36:15] providing for conflicts, severability, and sending an effective date. [00:36:18] Ms. Vance? [00:36:19] Yes, sir. Mr. Mayor, as was discussed earlier this evening at your CRA meeting, [00:36:26] the purpose of the agenda item is to add more specifics as it relates to current and potential activities [00:36:39] which may be engaged in under the authority of our Community Redevelopment Plan. [00:36:47] And, Mr. Waters, is there anything else we need to add? [00:36:51] This is basically the companion to the one we did at the Community Redevelopment Plan. [00:36:55] It is, and it's in response to state legislative action taken in October of 2019. [00:37:01] Okay, so I'll open it up for public comment. Seeing no one come forward, bring it back to Council. [00:37:06] Move for approval. [00:37:07] Second. [00:37:08] To the maker? [00:37:09] Nothing. [00:37:10] Second? [00:37:11] No. [00:37:12] Mr. Altman? [00:37:13] No, sir. [00:37:14] Deputy Mayor? [00:37:15] No, we already had our discussion this evening. [00:37:17] In which case, all in favor, please signify by saying aye. [00:37:20] Aye.
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Professional Service Agreement RE: City Engineering Services for 2020
approvedCouncil approved authorizing the city manager to enter a continuing professional services agreement with Heirs and Associates (the city engineer since 2016) for 2020, in an amount not to exceed $40,000, covering engineering services including site inspections and participation on the Development Review Committee and Land Development Review Board.
- motion:Authorize the city manager to enter into a professional services agreement with Heirs and Associates for continuing city engineering services in 2020, not to exceed $40,000. (passed)
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[00:37:23] Next, professional service agreement regarding city engineering services for 2020. [00:37:28] Yes, sir. Mr. Mayor, members of the Council, heirs and associates were hired in 2016 to serve as the city engineer. [00:37:38] They provide a full range of engineering services to include transportation, environmental, structural, and water resources. [00:37:49] Their contract is for an amount not to exceed $40,000. [00:37:55] In large part, they are relied on to conduct site inspections, to perform a role on the City's Development Review Committee, [00:38:06] and additionally with the Land Development Review Board. [00:38:11] They are also used on an as-needed basis for city projects, and we have two representatives in attendance this evening, [00:38:20] Mr. Chris Martin and Matthew Ivey, who we work with with regularity as it relates to various projects, [00:38:29] and we are asking your permission to authorize the city manager to enter into an agreement with the consultant for continuing services. [00:38:37] Thank you. [00:38:38] Any other public comment? Seeing no one come forward, bring it back to Council. [00:38:42] Move for approval. [00:38:44] Do we have a motion? [00:38:46] Second. [00:38:47] Second. To the maker? [00:38:48] I just noticed they have ties on, but one of them already has his sleeves rolled up ready to go to work, so definitely want to vote for him. [00:38:56] All right. Second? [00:38:58] No, welcome back. [00:39:00] Mr. Allman? [00:39:01] No, I think when we get into the budget, if there are needs that the City Council has for additional engineering services [00:39:10] and the more traditional role of a city engineer sitting up here with us and the attorney on a full day, we'll talk about that then, [00:39:17] but this is a service that's needed by the city manager in the day-to-day business, and so I'll go with it. [00:39:25] Deputy Mayor? [00:39:26] Nothing, thank you. [00:39:27] All right, thank you. [00:39:28] In which case, all those in favor, please signify by saying aye. [00:39:31] Aye. [00:39:32] Opposed, like sign. [00:39:33] Motion passes. [00:39:34] Next is recommendation of firm for the 2019 Fleet Maintenance Utility Purchasing Warehouse and Storage Building Construction Project. [00:39:43] Mr. Rivera? [00:39:45] Thank you, Mayor and Council. [00:39:47] The purpose of this item for City Council is to consider for approval the selection and ranking order of three consultant firms for RFQ 2004. [00:39:58] This is for the construction of the Fleet Maintenance and Utility Purchasing Warehouse Storage Building,
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Recommendation of Firm for 2019 Fleet Maintenance/Utility Purchasing Warehouse & Storage Building Construction Project
approvedCouncil approved staff rankings for the Fleet Maintenance/Utility Purchasing Warehouse & Storage Building Construction Project and authorized negotiations with the top-ranked firm McKim and Creed, with HTG Architects as backup if negotiations fail. The existing 1973 metal frame building no longer meets codes and was recommended for demolition or repurposing.
- motion:Approve the firm rankings and authorize staff to begin project cost proposal negotiations with McKim and Creed, with authority to proceed with HTG Architects if negotiations fail. (passed)
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[00:40:04] and we would also ask that you authorize staff to begin project cost proposal negotiations with McKim and Creed, [00:40:11] the number one-ranked firm. [00:40:13] In addition, should those negotiations fail, we would ask that you would also allow us to proceed with the second-ranked firm, which is HTG Architects. [00:40:29] The structural assessment analysis for the building was completed on April 30th, 2019. [00:40:37] There was a recommendation given by the consultant that the existing building be demoed or repurposed and a new construction building be constructed. [00:40:51] The existing building is a metal frame structure that was built in 1973. [00:40:57] It no longer meets building codes or is able to accommodate all the services that the public works operational needs of are today. [00:41:07] In addition to the building structure, the site houses heavy maintenance equipment, ancillary equipment, construction materials, and police seizure vehicles. [00:41:19] And so this project would include redoing the storage areas and accommodating some of those functions. [00:41:27] The three firms that submitted their rankings were McKim and Creed, HTG Architects, and MPAD Architects. [00:41:35] We would recommend that you approve the rankings and allow us to proceed with negotiations. [00:41:41] Very good. [00:41:42] Open it up for public comment. [00:41:44] Seeing no one come forward, bring it back to Council. [00:41:48] For approval? [00:41:49] Second. [00:41:50] To the maker? [00:41:51] Nothing. [00:41:52] To the second? [00:41:53] Negotiations. [00:41:54] Does that mean you'll come back with us with a figure? [00:41:55] We will. [00:41:56] With a fee. [00:41:57] Okay. [00:41:58] Deputy Mayor? [00:41:59] Nothing. [00:42:00] Mr. Allman? [00:42:01] No, I'll give you all the break on this one. [00:42:05] In which case, all those in favor, please signify by saying aye. [00:42:08] Aye. [00:42:09] Opposed, like sign. [00:42:12] Brian, you're up. [00:42:13] Three minutes. [00:42:14] All right. [00:42:16] Pete's not giving you any of his time. [00:42:18] Agreed. [00:42:19] Good evening, Mayor and Council. [00:42:21] As my report's the last report of the year, I just wanted to go through some annual numbers [00:42:24] and talk about some yearly accomplishments. [00:42:27] In 2019, we completed 2,288 service requests from staff. [00:42:33] We continue to update the City's network, this year adding two new storage arrays. [00:42:38] Once that was in place, we migrated 17 virtual servers. [00:42:42] We added 19 servers to the environment this year and retired five legacy servers. [00:42:48] We always are continuing to enhance security protocols. [00:42:52] This year, we completed a network assessment, a penetration test, and phishing testing with staff. [00:42:58] As a result, we'll do some additional training for staff in 2020 [00:43:03] and make some hardware upgrades to improve network security. [00:43:08] Additionally, we did add a new antivirus agent and set up two-factor authentication [00:43:14] for all of our remote connections. [00:43:18] We replaced 32 desktops, 19 laptops, and completed a variety of software upgrades [00:43:25] through the different departments and then completed – Nathan, advance the slide for me –
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Three Minute Report: Technology Solutions
IT Director Brian gave a three-minute report on Technology Solutions accomplishments, including citizen-facing tools like the City app with push notifications and the launch of Tyler Technologies Utilities module. He noted the InterGov module (with code enforcement and building development components) will be the final Tyler module to implement.
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[00:43:32] several projects over the course of the year to the benefit of the departments [00:43:39] with providing additional tools as well as tools that help provide our citizens – [00:43:45] or help provide our staff support our citizens for first responders [00:43:50] and throughout the rest of the departments, Nathan, one more. [00:43:53] And then finally, some public-facing tools such as the City app, [00:43:57] which allows for the push notifications. [00:43:59] I know an item that's been discussed where you can send out information on road closures [00:44:03] or events that are coming up. [00:44:05] And Nathan, the last slide. [00:44:07] Finally, the launch of Tyler Technologies Utilities was last Wednesday. [00:44:11] So far, it's been a smooth transition. [00:44:14] We've posted documentation on the City's website to help residents get set up with their online accounts. [00:44:21] And with that, I conclude my report. [00:44:24] And happy holidays, everyone, and I can answer any questions. [00:44:27] We'll open up for questions. [00:44:29] I just have one. [00:44:30] How many more modules do we have on Tyler? [00:44:33] The InterGov module will be the final module. [00:44:35] So there's a couple different components to it. [00:44:37] It has a code enforcement component and a building development component, [00:44:41] but it's the final module for Tyler. [00:44:43] Finally. [00:44:45] Other questions? [00:44:47] Thank you, Brian. [00:44:48] Thank you, Brian. [00:44:49] We're now to communications and reports. [00:44:52] Mr. Davis, would you like to kick it off here? [00:44:55] I just want to say that I think we presented ourselves. [00:45:00] at a very high level in the Christmas parade. I think that everybody enjoyed it. I think [00:45:05] the parade was well attended and we'll see you next year. Chaskell, everybody that came [00:45:11] in December. [00:45:12] Deputy Mayor? [00:45:13] I agree. I was going to touch on the parade, both parades actually. Thank you for staff [00:45:18] for all the hard work across the board. Thank you for all the volunteers that were out there [00:45:23] hanging garbage bags, picking up garbage the very next morning after the street parade. [00:45:28] Thank you for the sponsors as well. I just have to say it's the end of the year and we [00:45:34] all have our own little things that are important to all of us, but we all have the common goal [00:45:40] of just improving the quality of life for the city of New Port Richey. I just wrote [00:45:44] a Homeowners and a Flood Insurance Policy for a lady who moved here from Tampa with [00:45:48] her husband. She's an assistant principal at an elementary school in, what's the, Tampa [00:45:54] Heights? What's the one where there was a really run down area? It's Tampa Heights, [00:46:00] was it? She works in Tampa Heights. She moved here and just fell in love with the city and [00:46:05] loves everything about it. We're seeing a lot more of that. I am as well, at least, [00:46:10] excuse me. Not just people from outside the city limits moving in the city. We're honestly, [00:46:16] in my opinion, becoming a place where the word is out in the Tampa Bay area and even [00:46:22] outside that area. It's a cool place to live. The golf cart ordinance has done phenomenal [00:46:26] things. The things that we do in the park. Lane, I think you've done a great job with [00:46:31] the concerts in the park and the movies in the park. Things like that build a community. [00:46:37] We love hosting large events and whatnot, but when I first ran, and I used the same [00:46:42] motto as well when I ran for re-election, was take pride in your city. I'm starting [00:46:47] to see people moving here that do take pride in their city. I'm starting to see people [00:46:52] that were thinking about leaving, reversing that idea and staying in our city limits. [00:46:57] There's just so many phenomenal things happening. It's due to all the department heads, to the [00:47:03] hard work that you all put in, excuse me, all of our employees across the board, council [00:47:09] members now and former council members, and really the community. I just want to thank [00:47:15] everyone. Some great things are happening. There's already moving trucks parked outside [00:47:20] of Main Street landings. I toured those apartments. They're absolutely beautiful. There's so many [00:47:25] different models that you can live in. It's ranging from square footage from smaller one-bedroom
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