Council denied a rezoning at 5406 Cotee River Drive, tabled appointing a married couple to the Environmental Committee, and weighed a tobacco retail license.
22 items on the agenda · 19 decisions recorded
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Pledge of Allegiance
Council recited the Pledge of Allegiance.
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[00:00:15] City Attorney Driscoll. Here. Thank you. If you could all stand, join me in the Pledge of Allegiance.
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Moment of Silence
Moment of silence in honor of servicemen and women, followed by the Pledge of Allegiance.
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[00:00:20] Remain standing for a moment of silence in honor of our servicemen and women at home and abroad. [00:00:25] I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
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Approval of November 5, 2019 Work Session and Regular Meeting Minutes
approvedCouncil approved the minutes from the November 5, 2019 Work Session and Regular Meeting.
- motion:Motion to approve the November 5, 2019 Work Session and Regular Meeting minutes. (passed)
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[00:00:42] Thank you. You may be seated. Next item on the agenda is the approval of the November 5th work session and regular meeting minutes. Move for approval. Second.
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Proclamation - Small Business Saturday
approvedMayor Rob Marlow read a proclamation declaring November 30, 2019 as Small Business Saturday in the City of New Port Richey, encouraging residents to support local businesses. Liz Meismer of Main Street described downtown activities including sales, face painting, free gift wrapping, arts and crafts, and hot chocolate.
- vote:Approve/issue the Small Business Saturday proclamation (passed)
Main StreetUnited States Small Business AdministrationLiz MeismerRob MarlowShop Small SaturdaySmall Business Saturday▶ Jump to 0:51 in the videoShow transcriptHide transcript
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[00:00:51] Any discussion? Hearing none, all those in favor, please signify by saying aye. Aye. Opposed, like sign. Motion passes. I would like to ask Liz Meismer and any of her fellow Main Street folks to join me at the podium, please. [00:01:21] Where as the City of New Port Richey celebrates our local small businesses and the contributions they make to our local economy and community, and whereas according to the United States Small Business Administration, there are currently 30.2 million small businesses in the United States, representing 99.7% of all businesses with employees in the United States, responsible for 65.9% of the net new jobs in the United States. [00:01:48] And whereas small businesses employ over 47% of all businesses with employees in the United States, and whereas 90% of consumers in the United States agree that small businesses contribute positively to the local community by supplying jobs and generating tax revenue and are critical to the overall economic health of the United States, and whereas the City of New Port Richey celebrates our local small businesses and the contributions they make to our local economy, and whereas according to the United States Small Business Administration, there are currently 30.2 million small businesses in the United States, representing 99.7% of all businesses with employees in the United States, responsible for 65.9% of the net new jobs in the United States. [00:02:18] And whereas the City of New Port Richey supports our local businesses that create jobs, boost our local economy, and preserve our neighborhoods, and whereas advocacy groups as well as public and private organizations across the country have endorsed the Saturday after Thanksgiving as Small Business Saturday, now therefore I, Rob Marlow, Mayor of the City of New Port Richey, do hereby proclaim November 30th, 2019, as Small Business Saturday in the City of New Port Richey, and urge all the residents of our community and community members to join us in celebrating this small business Saturday. [00:02:48] And I would go further and say save yourself the stress of trying to beat the crowds down on Black Friday, take it easy, relax, and then come out and support our local businesses on Saturday. [00:03:07] I wanted to just talk a little more about the Shop Small Saturday. This November 30th, Main Street has set up a few different activities downtown. Many of the merchants are offering some great sales, customer appreciation events. We'll have face painting, free gift wrapping, arts and crafts for the kids, and hot chocolate. So if you can tell your friends, we'd love to have you down here and shop in beautiful downtown. [00:03:36] What about a dunk tank with the mayor in it? That'd be a great idea. [00:03:39] Oh, we may be able to arrange that, though. Thank you very much. [00:03:44] If the mayor can't make it, the deputy mayor probably can. [00:03:47] Noted. Thank you. [00:03:49] Thank you. [00:03:51] Get my sense of humor after six years. [00:03:53] It's rubbing off. [00:03:55] No, no. [00:03:57] Next, we have a presentation by the Florida Department of Health regarding tobacco and vaping.
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Presentation by Florida Health Department RE: Tobacco and Vaping
discussedRepresentatives from the Florida Department of Health's tobacco program presented on Students Working Against Tobacco (SWAT) and asked the city to consider adopting a Tobacco Retail License (TRL), potentially as a downtown New Port Richey pilot, to regulate vape and nicotine product sales near schools and to youth. Council directed the city attorney to look into the matter and gather information from Volusia and Alachua counties.
- direction:Council directed the city attorney to research tobacco retail licensing, including pulling information from Volusia and Alachua counties. (none)
AHECFDAFlorida Department of HealthSafe Teens Against Drugs (SAND)Students Working Against Tobacco (SWAT)Tobacco Free FloridaAndrea DaigleKaylaAlachua County Tobacco 21 ordinanceFamily Smoking Prevention and Tobacco Control ActTobacco 21Tobacco Retail License (TRL)Volusia County TRLdowntown New Port Richey TRL pilot proposal▶ Jump to 4:03 in the videoShow transcriptHide transcript
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[00:04:05] Mr. Mayor, we're due to have Andrea Daigle here for a presentation. [00:04:16] Hi, I'm Andrea Daigle. I work with the Florida Department of Health. I'm our SWAT coordinator, Students Working Against Tobacco, and I work in the tobacco program. This is my colleague. Do you want to introduce yourself? [00:04:26] Hi, my name is Kayla. I'm actually from Volusia County. I used to be a SWAT coordinator, and now I'm the tobacco prevention specialist. [00:04:35] I just wanted to give you guys a background about SWAT. SWAT is Students Working Against Tobacco. [00:04:43] Our mission is, SWAT is Florida's statewide youth organization working to mobilize, educate, and equip Florida youth to revolt against and deglamorize big tobacco. [00:04:53] SWAT is a united movement of empowered youth working towards a tobacco-free future. [00:05:00] It's youth-led. We let youth lead the group and empower them to work against big tobacco companies. [00:05:06] So, kind of why we're coming here today is to talk to you guys about tobacco retail licenses. [00:05:12] Do you guys know what a tobacco retail license is? [00:05:17] For those of you who don't know, a tobacco retail license would prevent these vape companies from being able to sell vapes to our youth at local retailers. [00:05:33] Do you want to jump in, Kayla? [00:05:38] How are you guys doing this evening? It's been a long evening. [00:05:42] Tobacco retail licensing is basically something that helps youth. It's a youth component. It's used for youth. It has different avenues. [00:05:50] One of the avenues and benefits is it can cap the number of retailers in a geographic area, meaning that a lot of our tobacco retail sellers are basically next to the schools. [00:06:00] They're next to places like recreational parks, and that's something that a tobacco retail license can do. [00:06:06] I'm not sure if you guys are informed, but electronic nicotine devices, which we also call them vapes, jewels, that's something that's on the rise right now with our youth. [00:06:14] So, that's something we're trying to put a cap on. [00:06:18] Andrea just actually had a citation course today, and we had how many attendants? [00:06:22] About 15. [00:06:24] About 15 attendants, and we have that every, I'm sorry, I'm actually really new, two weeks in. [00:06:28] So, once a month. [00:06:30] When I came from Volusia County, I used to have at least probably 30, so there is an issue with electronic nicotine devices. [00:06:36] So, the tobacco retail license also can prohibit sales of tobacco products at pharmacies and other retailers. [00:06:42] It requires a minimum distance between retailers. [00:06:46] There's also been, I'm not sure in Pasco County, but I know in Volusia County, we've always had, there's a vape shop right here, and then you go up a mile, and there's another vape shop. [00:06:56] So, if you create that tobacco retail license, it would have to, one of the actual, excuse me, one of the actual retailers would have to close down or either come back in. [00:07:08] Stores cannot be within, sorry, excuse me. [00:07:12] Where are we going from? [00:07:13] I lost my train of thought. [00:07:17] Okay, so some of the benefits of having a tobacco retail license, we'll just go straight there. [00:07:25] Is that most TRLs include a yearly fee, which is going to generate revenue to help the city or county cover the costs of inspection and enforcement of minimum age laws, tax laws, and compliance with the Family Smoking Prevention and Tobacco Control Act. [00:07:41] Raising the cost of an existing license fee can help ensure that monitoring and enforcement costs are sufficiently covered. [00:07:49] And restricting how close, we can also restrict with these tobacco retail license how close each tobacco retail license, I think you said that, is to each retailer, but we can also make sure that they're not super close to the schools. [00:08:02] So kids don't have, or youth don't have an easier access to these products and can't just buy them whenever they please. [00:08:11] And then another benefit is you can also allow the ability to suspend a license. [00:08:17] So if someone is not following their license correctly, we can suspend it and they cannot sell the products. [00:08:25] Those are some of the main benefits. [00:08:27] Is there anything else that you wanted to add? [00:08:29] The only thing I would like to add is vape stores are not required to have this license. [00:08:33] So that's really why we're pushing towards it. [00:08:35] So like I can sell, you can sell, anyone can sell a vape product to anyone. [00:08:40] You don't have to have any form of anything. [00:08:43] Is the state addressing that to some degree? [00:08:45] Are they looking into that? [00:08:46] Do you know? [00:08:47] Tobacco-free Florida is. [00:08:49] It's kind of hard to say just because the FDA hasn't approved these. [00:08:52] They're not regulated. [00:08:54] So we can't really speak on too many things associated with these items, but they're working as hard as they can and as fast as they can. [00:09:01] Are they trying to do an age? [00:09:02] Yes. [00:09:03] Tobacco 21, which is a part of tobacco retail licensing. [00:09:07] Alachua County is the first county to actually adopt that. [00:09:10] So 21 is the age for Alachua County. [00:09:13] It's kind of hard to get that passed. [00:09:16] That's eventually our goal, but right now we're trying to start slow. [00:09:19] So we want to try to tell you guys what we can do and maybe get some resolutions from the city. [00:09:27] We would like to start a tobacco retail license pilot in the city of downtown New Port Richey. [00:09:32] But it's starting small. [00:09:35] So we can eventually get it to 21. [00:09:38] That license you're referring to, that does apply to vape stores because vaping is not tobacco, right? [00:09:43] No. [00:09:44] So it would not then? [00:09:46] Not right now. [00:09:47] At this moment, they're not required to have that license. [00:09:49] If we were to start a tobacco retail license, then they would be required. [00:09:53] How would they be required if it's not tobacco? [00:09:56] Okay. [00:09:57] So that's the tricky part about these items. [00:10:00] Some of the components inside of like Juuls, like benzoic acid, is a tobacco component. [00:10:06] Okay. [00:10:07] But since they're not regulated, we can only say they're nicotine products. [00:10:10] But the different avenues with tobacco retail licensing, you can take any approach. [00:10:15] So you can say vape stores have to be included, nicotine and tobacco. [00:10:19] So tobacco retail license has like a huge, it's a huge entity with small little avenues within it. [00:10:26] So the way we actually would start that off, because we got one passed in Volusia County, [00:10:30] well, I was able to get one passed in Volusia County, is with a product placement law, [00:10:33] where a lot of our retailers had to place their items 25 feet behind. [00:10:38] So that's how we kind of started it. [00:10:40] And then I moved over here, so. [00:10:43] So we're helping to get one started with her here. [00:10:46] But, yeah, so basically what we would need is if we could get some resolutions, [00:10:51] we can provide any kind of quit line information. [00:10:54] We partner with AHEC a lot of times, so we have that information here available for you all. [00:10:59] And then to encourage, like, your youth to join SWAT clubs, students working against tobacco. [00:11:07] They're really fun. [00:11:08] They look really good on college applications. [00:11:10] We also partner with SAND, which we have some of our SAND people here with us, [00:11:13] which SAND is Safe Teens Against Drugs, and we have very similar missions. [00:11:17] So we work very closely with them, and they get to do a lot of, like, the fun stuff that we get to. [00:11:23] So if you do have youth, encourage them. [00:11:27] And I think that's pretty much everything. [00:11:29] Is there anything else you wanted to add? [00:11:30] The only thing I would like to add, just coming from Volusia County and dealing with them for three years [00:11:34] and seeing how everything has transitioned, I feel like this would be extremely beneficial. [00:11:39] We would just need support, and the support would lead from letters of support, which are resolutions, [00:11:44] which is what we would probably – when I reached out to the community, [00:11:47] we had a lot of our SWAT students reach out to the community and ask them for letters of support, [00:11:51] where we actually brought to the city council in Volusia County. [00:11:54] I'm sorry. [00:11:55] So we just would need some support because we need as much help as we can get. [00:12:01] Let's have our attorney look into this and see what might. [00:12:06] I was thinking the same thing, pull the information from Volusia and Alachua. [00:12:10] I'll be glad to. [00:12:13] Just a good question. [00:12:14] Being as that cigarettes have been around forever and the vaping products are fairly new, [00:12:18] is there any numbers, statistics on the health side of it from the vaping? [00:12:24] So we could probably get that for you. [00:12:26] We did bring with us that – and this isn't really the health, but it's kind of just to show the numbers increasing. [00:12:32] But in 2018, about 25% of Florida high school students reported current use of vapes [00:12:38] or like electronic nicotine delivery systems. [00:12:41] And then there was a 58% increase compared to 2017. [00:12:46] They're still running data, so I'm sure it's probably just climbing. [00:12:49] Yeah. [00:12:50] But I can get you the health information if you'd like. [00:12:53] Okay, yeah, please. [00:12:54] And then – okay. [00:12:57] Great. [00:12:58] Anything else? [00:12:59] The city manager, I guess, has all your information to get a hold of you, right? [00:13:02] We do. [00:13:03] And if you guys need any – I'm sorry – any information from Volusia County, I'll be happy to provide that. [00:13:09] Thank you very, very much. [00:13:10] Thank you. [00:13:11] Did you want any of our information or do you want us to leave it? [00:13:14] Do you want us to leave it with the clerk? [00:13:15] That would be great.
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Purchases/Payments for City Council Approval
approvedon consentCouncil approved the consent agenda containing purchases/payments for City Council approval by unanimous voice vote.
- motion:Motion to approve the consent agenda. (passed)
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[00:23:52] Seeing no one else come forward, we'll close Vox Pop. Next item is the consent agenda. [00:23:58] Move for approval. Second. All those in favor, please signify by saying aye. Aye. Opposed, [00:24:05] like sign. Motion passes. Next, public reading of ordinances. First reading ordinance 2019-2170.
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First Reading, Ordinance No. 2019-2170: Rezoning of 5406 Cotee River Drive from R-1 to R-2
deniedCouncil considered a first reading of Ordinance 2019-2170 to rezone a 0.30-acre property at 5406 Cotee River Drive from R-1 to R-2, requested by applicant Thomas Lloyd IV to split the lot and build a second home for his mother. Staff and the Land Development Review Board recommended denial as spot zoning. Council moved to deny the rezoning request, with members expressing sympathy but citing the need to follow zoning rules and concerns about precedent.
Ord. Ordinance No. 2019-2170
- motion:Motion to deny the rezoning request for Ordinance 2019-2170 (5406 Cotee River Drive from R-1 to R-2). (passed)
5406 Cotee River DriveCouncilman StarkeyElizabeth LloydMr. MurphyMs. ManceThomas Lloyd IVAccessory Dwelling Units (ADU)Land Development Review BoardOrdinance No. 2019-2170Spot zoning▶ Jump to 24:12 in the videoShow transcriptHide transcript
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[00:24:12] Ordinance number 2019-2170, an ordinance rezoning approximately .30 acres of property [00:24:19] generally located east of US Highway 19, south and west of Cody River Drive, north of Cedar [00:24:26] Lane from R1 residential district to R2 residential. Further described herein in an exhibit A providing [00:24:32] for an effective date. Ms. Mance. Yes, sir, Mr. Mayor. The applicant for this rezoning [00:24:38] request is Mr. Thomas Lloyd. The property in question is 5406 Cody River Drive. We do [00:24:45] have a PowerPoint for this presentation. The property is currently zoned R1. The applicant [00:24:54] has requested an R2 zoning classification. As you can see from the subject property map, [00:25:02] the property is located west of Cody River Drive and north of Lark Lane. The purpose [00:25:09] of the rezoning request is to divide the property into two parcels. There currently is an existing [00:25:20] structure on the property. The current zoning designation allows for the construction of [00:25:30] one home on the property within a minimum lot size of 7,500. The request is to go to [00:25:38] R2, which only requires 5,000 square feet, the purpose of which would be to establish [00:25:45] a second home on the property. That's the zoning map. This is the future land map. They're [00:25:51] consistently showing R1 as the zoning classification. This is a front view of 5406 Cody River Drive. [00:26:06] The side view, the rear view, and the Land Development Review Board met on September [00:26:19] 19th to consider the rezoning application. And based on a large part of recommendation [00:26:29] from me as the lead to the Development Review Committee, the recommendation was to deny [00:26:37] the rezoning request. That's prompted on the basis of the fact that it would be spot zoning [00:26:44] in the area. Mr. Lloyd? [00:26:48] Good evening, Council. Thomas Lloyd IV. I had the opportunity to invest my money anywhere [00:26:59] in Pasco County. I've been an investor for 25 years, and I'm looking for a home for myself. [00:27:05] I came across this parcel and this property, and it's my intent to make this my primary [00:27:10] residence. Within the last five months, my core family has changed a bit where we lost [00:27:18] my father, my mother's husband. On the parcel that we'd like to split, I'd like to build [00:27:24] a home for my mother, Elizabeth Lloyd, a 75-year-old woman who is now a resident of Pasco County, [00:27:32] and build that to accommodate her in her ongoing years. We have to be up 12 feet above sea [00:27:38] level. We'd like to put an elevator in. We'd like to make it handicap accessible. We'd [00:27:44] like to put that together so if in later years we do need a caretaker, that it's comfortable [00:27:50] and convenient for her. The idea is to keep this property within the family. This is not [00:27:55] a resale play. I didn't bring this up to the Development Council because I didn't want [00:27:59] to take pity on them. But I had so many of the neighbors approach me that they were against [00:28:05] it. That would ruin their view. These million-dollar houses that face the river, my property's [00:28:10] in back of theirs, and they didn't want it there for whatever reason. Here's the reason. [00:28:16] We need more space. To build an addition onto the existing structure just won't look right [00:28:21] with how high you're going to have to build it. It won't jive. In addition, in our parcel [00:28:28] as you can see, if we could bring the map back up, there's been several different types [00:28:34] of zoning on our street. There's actually been two 5,000-square-foot parcels that a [00:28:39] new construction home was just built within four houses away of mine. So it's typical [00:28:46] for the street. There's commercial zoning which allowed a residential home to be built [00:28:50] on. There's multifamily zoning in smaller lots than mine. So it's not like we're asking [00:28:56] for something that doesn't already exist. It does exist and is going right now. As a [00:29:01] matter of fact, one of the homes just closed, which is great for our community. We've had [00:29:05] people come up to you today and say, you know, what can we do to improve the area? Well, [00:29:09] let's bring capital into the area. Let's bring infrastructure to the area. Bring new ideas. [00:29:15] And I feel that, you know, I'm an innovator myself. I'm self-employed. I create jobs. [00:29:21] I want to be a resident of the city of New Port Richey. I intend to be, and my mother [00:29:25] will be too. Now, of course, if this can't happen, then we'll have to go somewhere else [00:29:29] and do it. But we'd like to do it here. We already own the property. Thank you very much [00:29:34] for your time. If you have any questions. [00:29:36] Thank you. [00:29:37] Thank you. This is a quasi-judicial matter, and I would ask if there are any substantially [00:29:43] affected parties in the audience that would wish to address counsel on this. Seeing none [00:29:51] come forward, any other individuals that wish to comment on this? [00:29:59] Thank you. [00:30:00] Seeing none, I will bring it back to Council. If we have any ex parte [00:30:04] communications that need to be declared, now would be a good time? Nope. In that case, [00:30:10] I will open it up for discussion. Could you remind me the size of the lot as it [00:30:19] exists now before it would be split? Did you say 75? 13,068 square feet, and the [00:30:30] minimum lot size in the R1 zoning classification is 7,500, in R2 it is 5,000. [00:30:37] So it's just a little smaller than the... Can we go back to that picture where it shows the lot? [00:30:49] What are the sizes of the lots to the north? They're all legal [00:30:56] conforming R1. As Mr. Lloyd, though, indicated, the yellow that you see on the map, [00:31:05] those are actually R3. They've been there forever as well. Yes. And then the ones in [00:31:14] the... And what are the square feet? What's the size of those, the R3s? [00:31:22] I mean, his is the red lot, right? Okay, so what size are the yellow lots? [00:31:28] What size are the cream-colored lots? All of the cream-colored lots are a minimum [00:31:34] of 7,500, and I do not have access currently to the square footage for the [00:31:42] R3 lots. I'm sorry, I don't know that off the top of my head. So you want to... [00:31:48] You've got how many square foot? 13,068 square feet. You've got a 7,500 lot and [00:31:59] you've got a 5,000... And you're 12,000. He's close to being able to split it. [00:32:06] He's got a primary structure at 1,022 square feet. The request is to include a [00:32:15] second structure on the property. And it would not fit in the R1 zoning [00:32:23] classification. What size is the structure you want to put on? Would you come up to the [00:32:29] speaker, please? Or the microphone, I'm sorry. The concept would be to mirror the [00:32:36] size of the property that's currently there within the setback limitations of [00:32:40] a corner property. It would be about a thousand square foot, give or take. Two [00:32:43] bedroom, two bath. Elevated. Well, I'm, you know, I'm against this. The lot's not big [00:32:48] enough for two homes. I live in the neighborhood. I grew up in the [00:32:52] neighborhood, and you mentioned all these multi-unit housing that we have all [00:32:56] sporadic throughout the city. Things like that have caused a detrimental effect on [00:33:01] neighborhoods today. They were zoned that way 20, 30, 40, 50 years ago, and we're [00:33:05] trying to address that problem now. To add to that and put another house where [00:33:09] it's not zoned properly and there's not enough space, I'm against. So I won't be [00:33:12] supporting this. That's where I stand. Yeah, I think that, you know, one of my [00:33:21] frustrations has been the inability of us to get to a conclusion that allows [00:33:29] for granny housing, mother-in-law housing. I know there was an attempt by the [00:33:34] Planning Department, I think, to go through that process. There was some [00:33:38] objection by the Land Development Review Code. Those folks really never heard, [00:33:44] I don't think, the concepts that had been recommended that I listened to at [00:33:52] one of these Talk of the Towns some time ago. You know, to me, you know, if we [00:34:00] had the ability for a single lot to have a mother-in-law suite or a, you know, [00:34:09] secondary unit, I would consider it. But in front of us right now is a zoning [00:34:16] request and we're being asked to follow the law. It's so close that you [00:34:21] can't split it. I don't know if it was a site plan, you know, to split it. Then [00:34:29] that would require either a variant, if it's even allowable, to a size of a lot. [00:34:33] So, to me, the next course of action I would take, if you really love to be [00:34:42] here and you sound like a, you know, the kind of gentleman we'd like to have in [00:34:48] town, and my condolences to your mother on the loss of your father as well, it's [00:34:56] a story that happens all the time in this city and it's a story I'd like to [00:35:01] try to talk about how we could accommodate. I don't know if it's worth [00:35:06] the effort on your part to try to split it up or to see if we would consider it [00:35:10] turning into two lots. Councilman Starkey says it probably wouldn't happen. It [00:35:14] would take some architectural renderings and to show how it would fit into the [00:35:21] neighborhood. I think that's a key and we've really been opposed to duplexes [00:35:25] because of the way that has downgraded many of our one neighborhoods. So, I [00:35:30] understand the Deputy Mayor's concerns. I don't think I can support the request, [00:35:38] but I'm sympathetic to it and I think there may be another way for it to [00:35:45] come back to us. I can accept that. My only concern is what's being allowed up [00:35:51] the street on the three or three lots. New construction. Our city is approving [00:35:57] building permits on these 5,000 square foot lots of new construction homes, four [00:36:02] doors away from mine. Right next to US 19 that are already zoned that [00:36:07] way. So, when you purchase the property, you know how it's zoned. Mr. Murphy, any comments? [00:36:14] I share my colleagues concerns. We've been kicking around the idea of [00:36:22] accessory dwelling units for some time and this strikes me as being the [00:36:31] exact sort of situation where an ADU would make some sense. I'm not sure where [00:36:36] we are in that planning process to get something back. We are studying the matter, [00:36:46] Mr. Mayor, but even if accessory dwelling units were permitted, they [00:36:52] would still have to meet the minimum square footage requirements of the [00:36:56] zoning class. We're not talking about building. This isn't an AE flood zone. You [00:37:00] see, you add more than 50% to the existing structure, you have to elevate it, right? [00:37:03] We're not talking about a 2,000 square foot home on a large lot that wants to [00:37:07] build a 500 square foot in-law suite in the back. We're talking about adding a [00:37:11] second structure on a smaller lot that's going to be elevated, that's not going to [00:37:15] match the house that's right next to it. It's not an accessory structure. It's [00:37:18] building a new home on a lot that's not zoned for that size. That's [00:37:21] how I view it. And it definitely would be spot zoning. That R3 [00:37:31] development at the end there has been R3 for as long as I can remember. So I'll [00:37:38] make the motion to deny the request. We have a motion and a second to the [00:37:44] maker. Only that I feel this sympathy for you and affection for your desire to [00:37:49] live here and wish that there was an opportunity, but I think that the [00:37:54] argument in our quasi-judicial role, we have to follow our own rules. You know, [00:38:00] and as it comes to what any prospective future rule would be, you know, that'll be [00:38:05] up to us to decide. But we haven't gotten there yet, so we can't act on that [00:38:08] function. So that's all I can say really. Second? Nothing further. Mr. Mayor, if I [00:38:19] could just point out for the record, too, that if you look at this map, you can see [00:38:23] that the property immediately adjacent to this property, and the two properties [00:38:27] are across the street from it, are similar in size. So to grant this request [00:38:33] would also probably give those property owners some incentive and potentially [00:38:38] some rights to seek the same type of rezoning. So I just want to point that [00:38:43] out for the record. Mr. Murphy, anything? Just that if it was some way of doing it [00:38:49] with it, well, splitting the property and keeping it whole would be one thing, but [00:38:52] to split the property so you'd be able to sell it as a separate property. That's [00:38:56] the part that... That would be my next procedure. This way protects the [00:39:00] family's assets. If anything would ever happen to me, my mother would be able to [00:39:05] sell my portion. If anything would happen to her, her portion could be sold. [00:39:09] Right. That's exactly... That's the intent. Longevity. I'm not going to take money [00:39:13] from her to build a house on the same property and make something that you may [00:39:17] never be able to sell for the longevity of the family. So it doesn't make any sense [00:39:20] down the road. But immediately, right now, it's something we have to do. We will do [00:39:24] it somewhere. It's just where is the question, you know? I just don't want to [00:39:27] have to commute down the holiday to see my mother. I want her with me. When she [00:39:32] goes to the Senior Center, you know, with all those elected, you know, all those [00:39:35] votes at the Senior Center, you know, she... God knows what they're going to say [00:39:38] tomorrow at Bingo. Thank you very much. Thank you. Do we have any other [00:39:42] discussion? Hearing none, all those in favor of the motion, please... That's a [00:39:47] motion to deny. Please say aye. Aye. Opposed, like sign. Motion passes. Next, we'll go
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Board Appointments: Linda and Donald Blake, Environmental Committee
tabledCouncil considered appointing Linda Blake (regular member) and Donald Blake (alternate) to the Environmental Committee to fill seats vacated by John Teets and Lawrence Levy. After discussion of Sunshine Law concerns about appointing a married couple to the same committee, Council tabled the item and directed staff to communicate with the Blakes about possibly serving on different committees.
- motion:Motion to approve appointment of Linda and Donald Blake to the Environmental Committee. (tabled)
- direction:Council directed staff (Mr. King) to communicate with the Blakes about serving on separate committees due to Sunshine Law concerns about married couples on the same board. (none)
6041 Florida AvenueDonald BlakeJohn CainJohn TeetsLawrence LevyLinda BlakeEnvironmental CommitteeSunshine Lawtwo-year term expiring November 19, 2021▶ Jump to 39:52 in the videoShow transcriptHide transcript
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[00:39:56] to business items. Board appointments. Linda and Donald Blake to the [00:40:01] Environmental Committee. Mr. Mayor, Linda Blake and Donald Blake have submitted an [00:40:10] application to serve on the City's Environmental Committee to fill seats [00:40:17] vacated earlier this year by John Teets and Lawrence Levy. Mrs. Blake, if you [00:40:25] determine that the appointments are appropriate, would serve as the regular [00:40:30] member and Mr. Donald Blake would serve as an alternate member to the group. They [00:40:36] have been in attendance at meetings of the Environmental Committee, affirming [00:40:41] their interest to serve. They seem well qualified for a position on this [00:40:47] committee. Therefore, we are recommending that you consider a two-year term, which [00:40:55] will be up for renewal on November 19th, 2021. Are they either in attendance [00:41:05] tonight? I don't believe they are in attendance, Mr. Mayor. Anyone wish to [00:41:09] address Council on this? John Cain, 6041 Florida Avenue. I believe they wanted to [00:41:23] be in attendance tonight, but there was a something that they had to attend that [00:41:27] was already in the workings. I know both these people. They're both both retired [00:41:32] teachers for un-teen years here and they're both they're both really [00:41:40] upstanding people. I wouldn't be hesitant at all to to give them any kind of [00:41:49] endorsement in any way. They're both they're really wonderful people and [00:41:53] they're not just well educated, but they're very active and they've done a [00:41:57] lot for going out of their way as teachers, doing things for their students [00:42:02] that they really weren't compelled to do, but did because of their real [00:42:07] concern. They have a concern about the environment as well. Being I serve [00:42:12] on that committee, I have to tell you it would be a plus to get quality people [00:42:17] like this on that committee, so I would love to see you consider that. Thank [00:42:23] you. Any further comments? Seeing none, bring it back to Council. Move for [00:42:28] approval. Second. Discussion? Anyone? I just have one question which has that relates [00:42:33] to the Sunshine Law with what are the obligations under the Sunshine Law for [00:42:42] members of the committee to discuss their recommendations to the City [00:42:45] Council privately? Do they do they get a lesson in the Sunshine Law? Does the [00:42:53] Sunshine Law approve to committee members when it comes to the things that [00:42:57] they're going to recommend to the city? Yes, they are subject to the Sunshine Law, [00:43:00] so they can't talk amongst themselves. They can talk to you individually. [00:43:05] Individual members of that committee can talk to members of this. So I just see an [00:43:10] inherent, you know, difficulty and I would just suggest that they're [00:43:18] related. They're husband and wife. To the degree they're teachers and [00:43:28] they're as educated and as committed as I hear they are, they would really have [00:43:34] to, you know, they would really have to be instructed in this in my view. I mean [00:43:39] we look for proper, you know, discharge of duties of everybody and I would see [00:43:46] it be a hard case. The honor system would have to be in full effect here with a married couple. [00:43:51] Because they could do without even realizing they're, you know what I mean? [00:43:54] And I think the bigger problem that you have with a married couple is that [00:43:59] they have a husband and wife privilege so they can't testify against each other [00:44:02] as to what they say. So there would be no way to ever establish. I saw you laboring out and your wife was out there supervising. I'm sorry, I did not realize they were married. [00:44:29] I have normally recommended against having married people serve on the same [00:44:33] committee for that reason. You certainly could. Could we maybe, Mr. King, could you [00:44:37] maybe bring this back? Do we have to move tonight? Communicate with them and let [00:44:41] them know where our concerns are and see if maybe one or the other would like to take the role? [00:44:45] Get each of them on different committees maybe? Yeah, that was my suggestion is if [00:44:49] we have other openings, let's get them active if they're willing to. Then they can give [00:44:54] each other advice all they want. [00:45:00] to try to enforce government sunshine in somebody's bedroom. [00:45:04] You don't want to be on the rec board? [00:45:07] No. [00:45:09] In that case, do we have a motion to do anything? [00:45:12] We're just tabled. [00:45:14] OK, we're going to table it. [00:45:15] Next is board reappointment of Ed Beckman [00:45:17] to the police pension board. [00:45:18] And I don't believe Ed is here either. [00:45:20] No, Mr. Beckman is not in attendance. [00:45:23] His term on the police pension board [00:45:29] lapsed on November 10, 2019. [00:45:32] The terms of office for the police pension board [00:45:35] are four-year terms. [00:45:37] He has indicated his interest in renewing his term. [00:45:41] Therefore, if you determine that it [00:45:44] is appropriate to reappointment, it [00:45:47] would be through November 19, 2023. [00:45:51] And Mr. Beckman does serve as one of the city representatives [00:45:54] on the board. [00:45:55] Very good. [00:45:57] Public comment? [00:45:59] Seeing none, bring it back to council. [00:46:00] Move for approval. [00:46:01] Second. [00:46:02] Discussion? [00:46:04] Thank you. [00:46:04] Yes, thank you, Ed, for your service. [00:46:07] Hearing no other discussion, all those in favor, [00:46:09] please signify by saying aye. [00:46:11] Aye. [00:46:11] Opposed, like sign. [00:46:13] Motion passes. [00:46:14] Next, board reappointment of Justin Billings [00:46:16] to the Park and Rec Advisory Board. [00:46:18] It's my pleasure to present Mr. Billings' name to you [00:46:23] for reappointment on the Parks and Recreation Advisory Board. [00:46:27] He is a longstanding and valuable member to the group. [00:46:32] His term is due to expire on December 20, 2019. [00:46:37] The terms of office for the advisory board [00:46:42] is for a three-year period of time. [00:46:44] Therefore, if you accept our recommendation [00:46:47] and reappoint Mr. Billings, his term [00:46:50] would span through December 20 of 2022. [00:46:56] Public comment? [00:46:57] Seeing none, I'll bring it back to council. [00:47:00] Move for approval. [00:47:01] Second. [00:47:02] Discussion? [00:47:03] Thank you. [00:47:05] Just a question. [00:47:05] With these boards, since I've been up here, [00:47:07] and I appreciate everyone donating their time and service [00:47:10] to the city on these boards, but I guess my question is, [00:47:13] when these positions come up for reappointment, [00:47:15] we have some people who have been on these boards for decades. [00:47:20] Is there any kind of notice that goes out to the public saying, [00:47:22] hey, we have smoke leaves coming up on such and such board [00:47:26] if you're interested, please come fill out an application [00:47:29] rather than just the same people just renewing every time? [00:47:33] Nothing against anyone individually, [00:47:36] but sometimes attrition can be a positive thing, [00:47:39] as it is with us. [00:47:40] We can't stay up here for decades at a time. [00:47:42] So it's just a question. [00:47:44] So it's a question that I have. [00:47:45] Is that something we do as a city, or is it just like, [00:47:47] I'm up, I'm going to reapply, and I'm in? [00:47:50] There is effort to recruit new members to boards [00:47:53] and commissions. [00:47:54] A couple of the mediums that we've used in the past [00:47:57] are the city newsletter and the city website, [00:48:00] and we introduce the functions of each group [00:48:05] and ask qualified candidates to submit [00:48:08] their letter of interest. [00:48:09] So, for example, Ms. Smith, let's [00:48:12] say someone was interested in the Parks and Rec Advisory Board, [00:48:15] but there's no openings. [00:48:17] I have an opening. [00:48:18] Let's say there wasn't. [00:48:19] I'm glad you have an opening. [00:48:20] We'll get that filled. [00:48:21] Say there wasn't, and they came to you. [00:48:23] Would you then advise them, here's [00:48:27] the next opening dates that we have. [00:48:29] Fill out your paperwork. [00:48:30] Have it to me by this date, if you want to have it looked at. [00:48:33] Absolutely. [00:48:33] OK. [00:48:34] Thank you. [00:48:36] Did John Tietz finish his term? [00:48:37] John Tietz moved outside of the city. [00:48:41] And on the Environmental Committee, [00:48:43] you are required to be a resident of the community [00:48:46] to serve. [00:48:48] Any further discussion? [00:48:50] Hearing none, all those in favor, [00:48:51] please signify by saying aye. [00:48:53] Aye. [00:48:53] Aye. [00:48:54] Opposed? [00:48:54] Like sign. [00:48:55] Next is the board reappointment of Carolyn Marlowe [00:48:58] to the Parks and Rec Advisory Board. [00:49:00] We have another valuable member that we [00:49:02] would like to reappoint. [00:49:04] Mrs. Marlowe's current term is due to expire [00:49:08] on December 20th of 2019. [00:49:11] As previously indicated, the terms [00:49:14] of office for the advisory board are for a three year [00:49:17] period of time. [00:49:19] Therefore, if you accept the staff's recommendation [00:49:21] to reappoint Carolyn Marlowe, her term [00:49:24] will span through December 20th of 2022. [00:49:28] Open it up for public comment. [00:49:31] I'll bring it back to council with the disclaimer [00:49:34] that I am, as is my custom when her name shows up, [00:49:38] going to declare a conflict of interest, [00:49:40] even though there may or may not actually be one. [00:49:43] And I will be abstaining from this. [00:49:45] And Judy, if you will get me the proper paperwork to do so. [00:49:49] Doesn't want to demonstrate that you have a vote against this. [00:49:53] I am in an awkward position, no matter what I say or do on this. [00:49:59] So I think best for me to just not. [00:50:03] Honestly, not to poke fun here, but we [00:50:05] caught just a couple agenda items ago. [00:50:10] A married couple that, if they're on the same board, [00:50:12] are subject to the Sunshine Law. [00:50:14] So is Mayor Marlowe and his wife
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Board Re-Appointment: Carolyn Marlowe, Parks and Recreation Advisory Board
approvedCouncil reappointed Carolyn Marlowe to the Parks and Recreation Advisory Board for a three-year term expiring December 20, 2022. Mayor Marlowe declared a conflict of interest and abstained; the motion passed 4-0 with one abstention.
- motion:Reappoint Carolyn Marlowe to the Parks and Recreation Advisory Board for a term ending December 20, 2022. (passed)4–0
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[00:48:55] Next is the board reappointment of Carolyn Marlowe [00:48:58] to the Parks and Rec Advisory Board. [00:49:00] We have another valuable member that we [00:49:02] would like to reappoint. [00:49:04] Mrs. Marlowe's current term is due to expire [00:49:08] on December 20th of 2019. [00:49:11] As previously indicated, the terms [00:49:14] of office for the advisory board are for a three year [00:49:17] period of time. [00:49:19] Therefore, if you accept the staff's recommendation [00:49:21] to reappoint Carolyn Marlowe, her term [00:49:24] will span through December 20th of 2022. [00:49:28] Open it up for public comment. [00:49:31] I'll bring it back to council with the disclaimer [00:49:34] that I am, as is my custom when her name shows up, [00:49:38] going to declare a conflict of interest, [00:49:40] even though there may or may not actually be one. [00:49:43] And I will be abstaining from this. [00:49:45] And Judy, if you will get me the proper paperwork to do so. [00:49:49] Doesn't want to demonstrate that you have a vote against this. [00:49:53] I am in an awkward position, no matter what I say or do on this. [00:49:59] So I think best for me to just not. [00:50:03] Honestly, not to poke fun here, but we [00:50:05] caught just a couple agenda items ago. [00:50:10] A married couple that, if they're on the same board, [00:50:12] are subject to the Sunshine Law. [00:50:14] So is Mayor Marlowe and his wife [00:50:15] subject to the Sunshine Law regarding discussions [00:50:17] around the park and whatnot? [00:50:19] Because I don't want to have a double standard here. [00:50:21] No, no. [00:50:23] Different members of different boards can talk to each other. [00:50:25] We can talk to anyone. [00:50:27] Just so everyone's clear, I can talk to anybody, [00:50:29] even if I'm married to them or my brother's sister, [00:50:32] on the advisory board, as long as I am not [00:50:34] on that board with them, correct? [00:50:36] Perfect. [00:50:36] Thank you. [00:50:37] That being said, I'll move approval. [00:50:38] And I'll second it. [00:50:39] There you go. [00:50:40] Discussion? [00:50:42] I don't want to. [00:50:44] All those in favor, please signify by saying aye. [00:50:47] Aye. [00:50:48] Opposed, like sign. [00:50:50] It passes four to nothing with one abstention, please.
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Board Re-Appointment: Edward Beckman, Police Pension Board
approvedCouncil re-appointed Edward Beckman to the Police Pension Board, passing 4-0 with one abstention.
- motion:Motion to approve the re-appointment of Edward Beckman to the Police Pension Board. (passed)4–0
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[00:50:15] subject to the Sunshine Law regarding discussions [00:50:17] around the park and whatnot? [00:50:19] Because I don't want to have a double standard here. [00:50:21] No, no. [00:50:23] Different members of different boards can talk to each other. [00:50:25] We can talk to anyone. [00:50:27] Just so everyone's clear, I can talk to anybody, [00:50:29] even if I'm married to them or my brother's sister, [00:50:32] on the advisory board, as long as I am not [00:50:34] on that board with them, correct? [00:50:36] Perfect. [00:50:36] Thank you. [00:50:37] That being said, I'll move approval. [00:50:38] And I'll second it. [00:50:39] There you go. [00:50:40] Discussion? [00:50:42] I don't want to. [00:50:44] All those in favor, please signify by saying aye. [00:50:47] Aye. [00:50:48] Opposed, like sign. [00:50:50] It passes four to nothing with one abstention, please. [00:50:56] Next is a special hearing on waste hauling applications. [00:51:00] Ms. Manns? [00:51:01] Mr. Mayor, the staff is requesting [00:51:03] that you postpone this public hearing [00:51:06] and defer it to your next meeting [00:51:08] as a result of an advertising error that was made. [00:51:12] In that case, we will table it till the next meeting. [00:51:16] Next is appeal to order to demolish 5937 River Road. [00:51:22] Thank you. [00:51:23] Mr. Dryden, who serves as the city's building official, [00:51:28] has moved himself to the front. [00:51:30] And we're going to go through a PowerPoint presentation [00:51:33] that we have for you. [00:51:35] It is a quasi-judicial proceeding. [00:51:38] And it is an appeal of an order to demolish 5937 River Road, [00:51:44] which is the former location of a banking and deposit center. [00:51:52] Marvin Dryden, building official, floodplain manager, [00:51:54] city of New Port Richey. [00:51:57] We have a slum and blight case with an appeal of order [00:52:00] to demolish for 5937, as you stated. [00:52:04] So I'll start to work through it. [00:52:06] This is the property between 19 and River. [00:52:08] It's just south of Maine a little bit, [00:52:11] maybe a quarter mile or so. [00:52:13] And you can see the entire property
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Public Hearing, Special Waste Hauling Applications for the 2020 Calendar Year
tabledStaff requested postponement of the public hearing on Special Waste Hauling Applications for the 2020 Calendar Year due to an advertising error. The Mayor tabled the item to the next meeting.
- direction:Table the public hearing on Special Waste Hauling Applications for the 2020 Calendar Year to the next meeting due to an advertising error. (tabled)
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[00:50:56] Next is a special hearing on waste hauling applications. [00:51:00] Ms. Manns? [00:51:01] Mr. Mayor, the staff is requesting [00:51:03] that you postpone this public hearing [00:51:06] and defer it to your next meeting [00:51:08] as a result of an advertising error that was made. [00:51:12] In that case, we will table it till the next meeting.
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Appeal of Order to Demolish - 5937 River Road
deniedCouncil heard an appeal of an order to demolish the former bank building at 5937 River Road. Building Official Marvin Dryden recommended denial because substantial improvement calculations exceeded the 50% FEMA threshold (over 54%) given the property's location in flood zone AE10. The owner's representative John Walsh presented a Livestone Consulting report arguing the trusses were sound and repairs would fall below 50%, but council voted to deny the appeal, upholding the demolition order.
- motion:Motion to deny the appeal of the order to demolish 5937 River Road. (passed)
5937 River RoadFour Leaf AdvisorsLivestone ConsultingAllmanJohn WalshMarvin DrydenMurphyFEMA 50% substantial improvement ruleFlood zone AE10Section 6185.3Section 6185.4▶ Jump to 51:16 in the videoShow transcriptHide transcript
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[00:51:16] Next is appeal to order to demolish 5937 River Road. [00:51:22] Thank you. [00:51:23] Mr. Dryden, who serves as the city's building official, [00:51:28] has moved himself to the front. [00:51:30] And we're going to go through a PowerPoint presentation [00:51:33] that we have for you. [00:51:35] It is a quasi-judicial proceeding. [00:51:38] And it is an appeal of an order to demolish 5937 River Road, [00:51:44] which is the former location of a banking and deposit center. [00:51:52] Marvin Dryden, building official, floodplain manager, [00:51:54] city of New Port Richey. [00:51:57] We have a slum and blight case with an appeal of order [00:52:00] to demolish for 5937, as you stated. [00:52:04] So I'll start to work through it. [00:52:06] This is the property between 19 and River. [00:52:08] It's just south of Maine a little bit, [00:52:11] maybe a quarter mile or so. [00:52:13] And you can see the entire property [00:52:15] is in a flood zone, AE10. [00:52:18] I think it's important to note, as a result of the fact [00:52:21] that it is located in the flood zone, [00:52:25] it triggers the 50% rule for substantial improvements. [00:52:30] This is just a timeline that we presented of the case [00:52:33] with all the facts in there. [00:52:34] The only thing that's significant in here [00:52:36] is we did extend a period of time for the applicant [00:52:39] to submit substantial improvement calculations for us [00:52:42] because he didn't submit it with his original appeal. [00:52:45] And then he revised his totals when he resubmitted. [00:52:49] I think that it might be additionally appropriate [00:52:51] to note that this case was originally originated in August. [00:52:58] Originated in August of 2019. [00:53:03] The property owner was notified in September of 2019 [00:53:08] of the building deficiencies. [00:53:11] The appeal deadline was October 21st of 2019. [00:53:17] Nothing was submitted at that time. [00:53:20] A four-day extension was given to the applicant at that time [00:53:24] so that they could submit a substantial improvement package. [00:53:30] They did so on two occasions. [00:53:34] The first time was on December 23rd, [00:53:37] at which time their roof estimate [00:53:39] was in the amount of $24,000. [00:53:42] October 23rd? [00:53:43] I'm sorry, yes. [00:53:46] Thank you for the correction. [00:53:48] And then a second time on October 25th, [00:53:51] at which time the same roofing company [00:53:54] indicated that it would cost $5,500 [00:53:58] to replace the roof, [00:54:00] citing an extremely discounted rate [00:54:03] because they're a friendly customer. [00:54:06] Next slide, please. [00:54:09] Okay, so this is just the justification [00:54:11] for the original order. [00:54:13] The structure is in very bad shape, [00:54:16] as you can see from the photos that are associated with it, [00:54:18] and collapse is possible on this structure. [00:54:22] This is a posting of the order on September 20th. [00:54:27] These are the rules of appeal by the municipal code. [00:54:31] Let's see how we apply it. [00:54:33] This is a letter that came from their engineer [00:54:35] because I challenged the foundation of the structure, [00:54:39] stating that I noticed a lot of sinking [00:54:41] around the foundation and so forth. [00:54:43] And the engineering firm came back and stated [00:54:46] some basic repairs that would be required, [00:54:48] which included a ceiling, [00:54:50] and also the roof as well. [00:54:53] And you'll see in the proposals that were submitted to us, [00:54:56] there are no roof repairs included in that as well. [00:54:59] So, or excuse me, ceiling repairs. [00:55:02] I apologize for that. [00:55:04] And these are the photos of the structure [00:55:07] as it is right now. [00:55:08] I made sure I took current photos [00:55:10] and kept them current as the case was moving along. [00:55:14] This is the ceiling. [00:55:15] You can see the areas where the ceiling is separating, [00:55:18] and it's no longer level, [00:55:20] which would indicate at least at a minimum [00:55:23] structural truss damage inside of the system. [00:55:28] Continuation, you can see on the fascia, [00:55:31] there's a separation of the ceiling away, [00:55:33] so that would indicate some settling in the structure [00:55:36] for that two or three inch separation to happen. [00:55:41] There's a photo of the roof in the lower right-hand corner [00:55:43] that's collapsed in already, [00:55:45] so it's subject to the weather. [00:55:47] And on the left-hand side, [00:55:48] you can see we have standing water on the roof as well. [00:55:54] And the staff's recommendation on this is denial [00:55:56] based on noncompliance with the FEMA substantial improvement [00:56:00] because when you run the numbers on it, [00:56:02] you're not allowed to discount materials or labor. [00:56:06] It has to be the actual cost [00:56:07] because FEMA's calculation is based on [00:56:10] what it would cost them to repair the building. [00:56:13] Not even for friendly customers, you can't do that? [00:56:16] Not even for friendly customers. [00:56:18] So it has to be the actual cost, [00:56:21] and even if they submit something as a building official, [00:56:23] it's my responsibility to state [00:56:25] that that number is not acceptable, [00:56:27] and then it has to be the original value. [00:56:29] So when you do the substantial improvement, [00:56:31] you find out that they're at over 54% [00:56:34] without even including the ceiling repairs. [00:56:37] So this structure is really not eligible [00:56:40] for approval of the appeal. [00:56:43] Mr. Mayor, Mr. John Walsh is in attendance this evening. [00:56:46] He was contracted by the owner of the property [00:56:51] to represent a case for your consideration this evening. [00:56:56] And if the owner's representative would like [00:56:58] to come forward. [00:57:03] Good evening, good to see everybody again. [00:57:05] John Walsh, Four Leaf Advisors. [00:57:08] Yes, I was engaged by the property owner [00:57:10] to come in and work on this, [00:57:13] and trying to digest all this information [00:57:16] in this period of time has been challenging, [00:57:17] but I think we have some information [00:57:24] from another consulting company [00:57:25] that inspected the building this morning, [00:57:27] which really helps put into focus [00:57:30] what the change in the cost of the repairs was. [00:57:35] First of all, the original roof repair [00:57:38] was to replace the entire roof. [00:57:40] As far as what we see now, [00:57:42] there's only a portion of the roof [00:57:43] that needs to be repaired, [00:57:45] and today they inspected the trusses, [00:57:49] and the truss integrity remains. [00:57:51] So trusses don't need to be replaced. [00:57:56] The truss system, so this, [00:57:58] and I've got this, which is not in your packet. [00:58:00] It just was delivered today. [00:58:03] I can give it to you all if you want to receive it. [00:58:06] The clerk, she can take it. [00:58:10] Do each of you want a copy? [00:58:13] I brought enough. [00:58:14] If you could give them all to her. [00:58:16] I don't want to short anybody. [00:58:19] Yeah, if you present that to the clerk, [00:58:21] she'll distribute them appropriately. [00:58:36] So just going through with what I just handed out [00:58:40] to you, Livestone Consulting. [00:58:44] They address the different references made [00:58:48] for approving or for looking for the demolition. [00:58:53] In section 6185.3, it says that the structure [00:58:56] or portion thereof as a result of decay, [00:58:58] deterioration, or dilapidation [00:59:00] is likely to be fully or partially collapsed. [00:59:03] Livestone Consulting with their inspection today [00:59:08] said that that is incorrect. [00:59:09] The truss system of the structure has been found [00:59:13] to be sound by basic engineering. [00:59:15] Additionally, while the ceiling system [00:59:17] does not require repair, it is in no danger of collapse. [00:59:23] The second is the condition of the, that's 61854. [00:59:27] The condition of the structure or portion thereof [00:59:30] poses an immediate threat to the life property [00:59:32] of the fire or other causes. [00:59:35] They say that that is incorrect. [00:59:38] The structure as is, prior to any repair work being done, [00:59:41] is not a threat to life or property. [00:59:43] There are no bare wires or other dangerous [00:59:45] building elements exposed. [00:59:48] They further talk about the difference [00:59:51] in the cost of the roof. [00:59:53] The scope of work had changed, [00:59:55] and the new costs are [01:00:00] directly reflect what's being offered in the market. [01:00:03] And as far as the ceiling repairs, [01:00:05] I mean, you can just see it, [01:00:07] those ceiling repairs need to be made, [01:00:08] and that cost would be about $1,500 [01:00:12] to do those ceiling repairs. [01:00:14] So when you look at the modifications that were sent in, [01:00:17] we're definitely below the 50% threshold for the FEMA. [01:00:22] I'd like to have an opportunity [01:00:24] to be able to go through all these with Mr. Dryden [01:00:28] so that he would be comfortable [01:00:30] with what it is we want to do with the building. [01:00:34] You know it's a former bank building. [01:00:36] There's a series of systems within that building [01:00:41] that match or connect to the existing building, [01:00:46] the former bank building as well. [01:00:49] So there's a huge asset there [01:00:50] when it comes to the pneumatic systems [01:00:52] that are in there to be able to transfer [01:00:55] those bank deposits from one building to the other [01:00:59] without having it to go across the road. [01:01:03] If in the future that building were to, [01:01:04] once again, become an operational bank building, [01:01:06] that would be a great asset to be able to use [01:01:09] to attract another bank there. [01:01:12] So we would really love the opportunity [01:01:14] to be able to work with the city, [01:01:16] bring the building into compliance, [01:01:18] and make sure that we also work, [01:01:22] in a conversation I had with the city manager [01:01:25] about the vagrancy issues, [01:01:28] we'll definitely work on a regular basis [01:01:30] to make sure that we're keeping people out of there [01:01:32] and securing the site. [01:01:35] Why hasn't that been done up till now? [01:01:37] I get constant calls on this building. [01:01:40] Literally people living underneath it, living. [01:01:44] Not just stopping by, spending the night. [01:01:46] We're talking empty food cans, [01:01:48] places where they're cooking their food. [01:01:50] It's absurd. [01:01:52] And I can't speak to that. [01:01:53] I wasn't a part of that. [01:01:54] I went by it today and there's nothing there now. [01:01:59] They certainly gave me a commitment yesterday afternoon [01:02:02] that they would be policing that on a regular basis. [01:02:08] Any other questions for Mr. Walsh? [01:02:11] Thank you, John. [01:02:13] Do we have any substantially affected parties [01:02:15] that wish to address counsel on this? [01:02:18] Seeing none, do we have any members of the general public [01:02:20] that wish to address counsel on this issue? [01:02:25] We'll bring it back to counsel. [01:02:26] Do we have any ex parte communications [01:02:28] that need to be declared? [01:02:30] No. [01:02:31] In that case, open it up for discussion. [01:02:34] Yeah, go first. [01:02:35] Can we bring the photos up, please? [01:02:37] I mean, you quote it and it says in here, [01:02:38] there's no danger of collapse on the roof. [01:02:41] It's already collapsing. [01:02:42] Look at that bottom right photo. [01:02:44] I mean, how do you say there's no danger [01:02:45] of collapse on the roof? [01:02:46] It has collapsed. [01:02:48] If you'll allow me. [01:02:50] Am I saying that wrong? [01:02:51] I mean, it's a hole in the roof. [01:02:52] Are you talking about the whole roof collapsing [01:02:54] or part of it? [01:02:55] We're talking about, there's a collapse [01:02:57] up on the roof portion. [01:02:59] What I was referring to was the collapse of the ceiling. [01:03:04] So when you look underneath, there are some ceiling tiles [01:03:07] that, as Mr. Dreyer pointed out, [01:03:10] that have some separation, [01:03:12] but those can just be brought down [01:03:13] and new ceiling tiles put back up. [01:03:16] Yeah. [01:03:17] Where's the water go when it goes in there? [01:03:19] It's going in and settles inside. [01:03:24] But this morning, they said they went [01:03:26] and inspected those trusses [01:03:27] and the integrity of the trusses remain. [01:03:29] So we can still redo the ceiling [01:03:32] and put that portion of the roof back on [01:03:34] to repair the roof area that needs to be repaired. [01:03:38] This is sad for me. [01:03:39] I mean, this building's been there forever. [01:03:42] I can't tell you how many lollipops I got [01:03:43] sitting in my mom's station wagon. [01:03:45] I'm serious, going through this bank. [01:03:47] Okay, so the bank's not operating. [01:03:48] This is there. [01:03:49] It's been sitting there. [01:03:50] If you watch city council meetings in the past, [01:03:53] this is a huge pet peeve of mine. [01:03:55] When property owners let their property [01:03:58] go into such disrepair, [01:03:59] what about the neighbors across the street [01:04:01] that bought riverfront homes that have to look at that [01:04:04] and have to get up in the morning, go get their paper [01:04:06] and have vagrants living across the street [01:04:09] using the bathroom? [01:04:10] I'm just, I'm speaking publicly here. [01:04:12] Using the bathroom, it's unacceptable. [01:04:14] And then the city finally comes down on them. [01:04:16] We build our case and all of a sudden, [01:04:18] oh, we need to, we're gonna fix this. [01:04:21] To me, I mean, banks are changing so much. [01:04:24] I mean, I have friends in the banking industry. [01:04:26] So much is done electronically and online now. [01:04:28] I don't see the need for a huge building like this [01:04:31] for tellers anymore. [01:04:32] I really don't. [01:04:33] I would assume as a property owner, [01:04:35] this is just my assumption, [01:04:35] it would probably be worth more money, that parcel of land, [01:04:38] with this not on there. [01:04:39] I can't fathom as to why now [01:04:42] we're trying to restore this building. [01:04:43] So I'm gonna support staff's decision on this [01:04:46] based on the 50% FEMA guidelines [01:04:47] on what it would take to bring this [01:04:49] to where it needs to be in compliance. [01:04:51] And I'm not gonna approve, or I'm gonna, [01:04:54] we'll state the verbiage properly when we come to vote. [01:04:58] But. [01:04:59] Okay, is that a motion? [01:05:00] Let me see, let me read the actual. [01:05:02] I would just say that the real numbers for the repair [01:05:04] will be significantly less than that 50%, 50%. [01:05:08] I'm going to agree with staff's denial [01:05:10] of the appeal to keep this from being condemned [01:05:15] or taken down, and what's the best verbiage to use? [01:05:18] You just move to deny the appeal. [01:05:20] Move to deny the appeal. [01:05:21] Do we have a second? [01:05:22] Yes. [01:05:23] To the maker, anything further? [01:05:25] No, once again, it's just take care of your stuff. [01:05:27] Drives me nuts. [01:05:28] Neighbors and residents of the city [01:05:30] have to live around this. [01:05:32] It's not right. [01:05:33] Do we have a second? [01:05:35] Ditto. [01:05:37] Mr. Murphy? [01:05:39] Yeah, the bottom line is, and I'm not beating you up, [01:05:41] because I know you're just representing them, [01:05:43] but had the city not initiated anything, [01:05:46] nothing would have been done, period. [01:05:47] And it would have furthered women's disrepair. [01:05:50] And for it to get to that state anyways [01:05:52] means they weren't looking at it or didn't care. [01:05:55] So I just, yeah, can't go with that. [01:05:58] Mr. Allman? [01:05:59] I'm just not sure what the expertise is [01:06:05] of Lifestone Consulting and the document [01:06:07] that was handed to us, [01:06:09] but I'd be hard-pressed to find any repair [01:06:14] of that ceiling that would be $1,500. [01:06:16] And I am discouraged, but interested in learning more [01:06:21] about the idea that the non-structural elements [01:06:26] of a building don't count when it comes to its valuation, [01:06:29] because I think a building is valued on what it is. [01:06:33] And the argument is being, [01:06:35] I'm sorry, there's a motion on the floor. [01:06:36] I'm sorry, yeah, you're right. [01:06:38] And the value, I want to get educated more on this. [01:06:44] This is the second time we've had these kind of questions [01:06:46] related to calculations, [01:06:49] but I'm going to defer to the expertise of the staff [01:06:52] and join them on the motion. [01:06:55] Any further discussion? [01:06:57] Hearing none, all those in favor? [01:06:59] Mr. Mayor, before you call, [01:07:00] I'm sorry, we had your discussion. [01:07:04] This is at council. [01:07:06] Well, I was just going to see [01:07:07] if there would be any opportunity [01:07:09] to just ask for a continuous to work with Mr. Dryden [01:07:12] and maybe come back in two weeks. [01:07:14] This is already in front of council [01:07:16] with a motion and a second. [01:07:18] John, I'm sorry.
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Board Re-Appointment: Justin Billings, Parks and Recreation Advisory Board
deniedThis item was actually a quasi-judicial appeal hearing regarding a condemnation/demolition order on a former bank building in a flood zone (AE10), which triggered FEMA's 50% substantial improvement rule. Staff recommended denial of the appeal because repair costs exceeded 54% of the structure's value even without ceiling repairs, while the owner's representative argued revised estimates put it under the 50% threshold. Council voted to deny the appeal, upholding staff's order.
- motion:Move to deny the appeal of the condemnation/demolition order on the former bank building, upholding staff's determination of noncompliance with FEMA substantial improvement (50%) rule. (passed)
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[00:52:15] is in a flood zone, AE10. [00:52:18] I think it's important to note, as a result of the fact [00:52:21] that it is located in the flood zone, [00:52:25] it triggers the 50% rule for substantial improvements. [00:52:30] This is just a timeline that we presented of the case [00:52:33] with all the facts in there. [00:52:34] The only thing that's significant in here [00:52:36] is we did extend a period of time for the applicant [00:52:39] to submit substantial improvement calculations for us [00:52:42] because he didn't submit it with his original appeal. [00:52:45] And then he revised his totals when he resubmitted. [00:52:49] I think that it might be additionally appropriate [00:52:51] to note that this case was originally originated in August. [00:52:58] Originated in August of 2019. [00:53:03] The property owner was notified in September of 2019 [00:53:08] of the building deficiencies. [00:53:11] The appeal deadline was October 21st of 2019. [00:53:17] Nothing was submitted at that time. [00:53:20] A four-day extension was given to the applicant at that time [00:53:24] so that they could submit a substantial improvement package. [00:53:30] They did so on two occasions. [00:53:34] The first time was on December 23rd, [00:53:37] at which time their roof estimate [00:53:39] was in the amount of $24,000. [00:53:42] October 23rd? [00:53:43] I'm sorry, yes. [00:53:46] Thank you for the correction. [00:53:48] And then a second time on October 25th, [00:53:51] at which time the same roofing company [00:53:54] indicated that it would cost $5,500 [00:53:58] to replace the roof, [00:54:00] citing an extremely discounted rate [00:54:03] because they're a friendly customer. [00:54:06] Next slide, please. [00:54:09] Okay, so this is just the justification [00:54:11] for the original order. [00:54:13] The structure is in very bad shape, [00:54:16] as you can see from the photos that are associated with it, [00:54:18] and collapse is possible on this structure. [00:54:22] This is a posting of the order on September 20th. [00:54:27] These are the rules of appeal by the municipal code. [00:54:31] Let's see how we apply it. [00:54:33] This is a letter that came from their engineer [00:54:35] because I challenged the foundation of the structure, [00:54:39] stating that I noticed a lot of sinking [00:54:41] around the foundation and so forth. [00:54:43] And the engineering firm came back and stated [00:54:46] some basic repairs that would be required, [00:54:48] which included a ceiling, [00:54:50] and also the roof as well. [00:54:53] And you'll see in the proposals that were submitted to us, [00:54:56] there are no roof repairs included in that as well. [00:54:59] So, or excuse me, ceiling repairs. [00:55:02] I apologize for that. [00:55:04] And these are the photos of the structure [00:55:07] as it is right now. [00:55:08] I made sure I took current photos [00:55:10] and kept them current as the case was moving along. [00:55:14] This is the ceiling. [00:55:15] You can see the areas where the ceiling is separating, [00:55:18] and it's no longer level, [00:55:20] which would indicate at least at a minimum [00:55:23] structural truss damage inside of the system. [00:55:28] Continuation, you can see on the fascia, [00:55:31] there's a separation of the ceiling away, [00:55:33] so that would indicate some settling in the structure [00:55:36] for that two or three inch separation to happen. [00:55:41] There's a photo of the roof in the lower right-hand corner [00:55:43] that's collapsed in already, [00:55:45] so it's subject to the weather. [00:55:47] And on the left-hand side, [00:55:48] you can see we have standing water on the roof as well. [00:55:54] And the staff's recommendation on this is denial [00:55:56] based on noncompliance with the FEMA substantial improvement [00:56:00] because when you run the numbers on it, [00:56:02] you're not allowed to discount materials or labor. [00:56:06] It has to be the actual cost [00:56:07] because FEMA's calculation is based on [00:56:10] what it would cost them to repair the building. [00:56:13] Not even for friendly customers, you can't do that? [00:56:16] Not even for friendly customers. [00:56:18] So it has to be the actual cost, [00:56:21] and even if they submit something as a building official, [00:56:23] it's my responsibility to state [00:56:25] that that number is not acceptable, [00:56:27] and then it has to be the original value. [00:56:29] So when you do the substantial improvement, [00:56:31] you find out that they're at over 54% [00:56:34] without even including the ceiling repairs. [00:56:37] So this structure is really not eligible [00:56:40] for approval of the appeal. [00:56:43] Mr. Mayor, Mr. John Walsh is in attendance this evening. [00:56:46] He was contracted by the owner of the property [00:56:51] to represent a case for your consideration this evening. [00:56:56] And if the owner's representative would like [00:56:58] to come forward. [00:57:03] Good evening, good to see everybody again. [00:57:05] John Walsh, Four Leaf Advisors. [00:57:08] Yes, I was engaged by the property owner [00:57:10] to come in and work on this, [00:57:13] and trying to digest all this information [00:57:16] in this period of time has been challenging, [00:57:17] but I think we have some information [00:57:24] from another consulting company [00:57:25] that inspected the building this morning, [00:57:27] which really helps put into focus [00:57:30] what the change in the cost of the repairs was. [00:57:35] First of all, the original roof repair [00:57:38] was to replace the entire roof. [00:57:40] As far as what we see now, [00:57:42] there's only a portion of the roof [00:57:43] that needs to be repaired, [00:57:45] and today they inspected the trusses, [00:57:49] and the truss integrity remains. [00:57:51] So trusses don't need to be replaced. [00:57:56] The truss system, so this, [00:57:58] and I've got this, which is not in your packet. [00:58:00] It just was delivered today. [00:58:03] I can give it to you all if you want to receive it. [00:58:06] The clerk, she can take it. [00:58:10] Do each of you want a copy? [00:58:13] I brought enough. [00:58:14] If you could give them all to her. [00:58:16] I don't want to short anybody. [00:58:19] Yeah, if you present that to the clerk, [00:58:21] she'll distribute them appropriately. [00:58:36] So just going through with what I just handed out [00:58:40] to you, Livestone Consulting. [00:58:44] They address the different references made [00:58:48] for approving or for looking for the demolition. [00:58:53] In section 6185.3, it says that the structure [00:58:56] or portion thereof as a result of decay, [00:58:58] deterioration, or dilapidation [00:59:00] is likely to be fully or partially collapsed. [00:59:03] Livestone Consulting with their inspection today [00:59:08] said that that is incorrect. [00:59:09] The truss system of the structure has been found [00:59:13] to be sound by basic engineering. [00:59:15] Additionally, while the ceiling system [00:59:17] does not require repair, it is in no danger of collapse. [00:59:23] The second is the condition of the, that's 61854. [00:59:27] The condition of the structure or portion thereof [00:59:30] poses an immediate threat to the life property [00:59:32] of the fire or other causes. [00:59:35] They say that that is incorrect. [00:59:38] The structure as is, prior to any repair work being done, [00:59:41] is not a threat to life or property. [00:59:43] There are no bare wires or other dangerous [00:59:45] building elements exposed. [00:59:48] They further talk about the difference [00:59:51] in the cost of the roof. [00:59:53] The scope of work had changed, [00:59:55] and the new costs are [01:00:00] directly reflect what's being offered in the market. [01:00:03] And as far as the ceiling repairs, [01:00:05] I mean, you can just see it, [01:00:07] those ceiling repairs need to be made, [01:00:08] and that cost would be about $1,500 [01:00:12] to do those ceiling repairs. [01:00:14] So when you look at the modifications that were sent in, [01:00:17] we're definitely below the 50% threshold for the FEMA. [01:00:22] I'd like to have an opportunity [01:00:24] to be able to go through all these with Mr. Dryden [01:00:28] so that he would be comfortable [01:00:30] with what it is we want to do with the building. [01:00:34] You know it's a former bank building. [01:00:36] There's a series of systems within that building [01:00:41] that match or connect to the existing building, [01:00:46] the former bank building as well. [01:00:49] So there's a huge asset there [01:00:50] when it comes to the pneumatic systems [01:00:52] that are in there to be able to transfer [01:00:55] those bank deposits from one building to the other [01:00:59] without having it to go across the road. [01:01:03] If in the future that building were to, [01:01:04] once again, become an operational bank building, [01:01:06] that would be a great asset to be able to use [01:01:09] to attract another bank there. [01:01:12] So we would really love the opportunity [01:01:14] to be able to work with the city, [01:01:16] bring the building into compliance, [01:01:18] and make sure that we also work, [01:01:22] in a conversation I had with the city manager [01:01:25] about the vagrancy issues, [01:01:28] we'll definitely work on a regular basis [01:01:30] to make sure that we're keeping people out of there [01:01:32] and securing the site. [01:01:35] Why hasn't that been done up till now? [01:01:37] I get constant calls on this building. [01:01:40] Literally people living underneath it, living. [01:01:44] Not just stopping by, spending the night. [01:01:46] We're talking empty food cans, [01:01:48] places where they're cooking their food. [01:01:50] It's absurd. [01:01:52] And I can't speak to that. [01:01:53] I wasn't a part of that. [01:01:54] I went by it today and there's nothing there now. [01:01:59] They certainly gave me a commitment yesterday afternoon [01:02:02] that they would be policing that on a regular basis. [01:02:08] Any other questions for Mr. Walsh? [01:02:11] Thank you, John. [01:02:13] Do we have any substantially affected parties [01:02:15] that wish to address counsel on this? [01:02:18] Seeing none, do we have any members of the general public [01:02:20] that wish to address counsel on this issue? [01:02:25] We'll bring it back to counsel. [01:02:26] Do we have any ex parte communications [01:02:28] that need to be declared? [01:02:30] No. [01:02:31] In that case, open it up for discussion. [01:02:34] Yeah, go first. [01:02:35] Can we bring the photos up, please? [01:02:37] I mean, you quote it and it says in here, [01:02:38] there's no danger of collapse on the roof. [01:02:41] It's already collapsing. [01:02:42] Look at that bottom right photo. [01:02:44] I mean, how do you say there's no danger [01:02:45] of collapse on the roof? [01:02:46] It has collapsed. [01:02:48] If you'll allow me. [01:02:50] Am I saying that wrong? [01:02:51] I mean, it's a hole in the roof. [01:02:52] Are you talking about the whole roof collapsing [01:02:54] or part of it? [01:02:55] We're talking about, there's a collapse [01:02:57] up on the roof portion. [01:02:59] What I was referring to was the collapse of the ceiling. [01:03:04] So when you look underneath, there are some ceiling tiles [01:03:07] that, as Mr. Dreyer pointed out, [01:03:10] that have some separation, [01:03:12] but those can just be brought down [01:03:13] and new ceiling tiles put back up. [01:03:16] Yeah. [01:03:17] Where's the water go when it goes in there? [01:03:19] It's going in and settles inside. [01:03:24] But this morning, they said they went [01:03:26] and inspected those trusses [01:03:27] and the integrity of the trusses remain. [01:03:29] So we can still redo the ceiling [01:03:32] and put that portion of the roof back on [01:03:34] to repair the roof area that needs to be repaired. [01:03:38] This is sad for me. [01:03:39] I mean, this building's been there forever. [01:03:42] I can't tell you how many lollipops I got [01:03:43] sitting in my mom's station wagon. [01:03:45] I'm serious, going through this bank. [01:03:47] Okay, so the bank's not operating. [01:03:48] This is there. [01:03:49] It's been sitting there. [01:03:50] If you watch city council meetings in the past, [01:03:53] this is a huge pet peeve of mine. [01:03:55] When property owners let their property [01:03:58] go into such disrepair, [01:03:59] what about the neighbors across the street [01:04:01] that bought riverfront homes that have to look at that [01:04:04] and have to get up in the morning, go get their paper [01:04:06] and have vagrants living across the street [01:04:09] using the bathroom? [01:04:10] I'm just, I'm speaking publicly here. [01:04:12] Using the bathroom, it's unacceptable. [01:04:14] And then the city finally comes down on them. [01:04:16] We build our case and all of a sudden, [01:04:18] oh, we need to, we're gonna fix this. [01:04:21] To me, I mean, banks are changing so much. [01:04:24] I mean, I have friends in the banking industry. [01:04:26] So much is done electronically and online now. [01:04:28] I don't see the need for a huge building like this [01:04:31] for tellers anymore. [01:04:32] I really don't. [01:04:33] I would assume as a property owner, [01:04:35] this is just my assumption, [01:04:35] it would probably be worth more money, that parcel of land, [01:04:38] with this not on there. [01:04:39] I can't fathom as to why now [01:04:42] we're trying to restore this building. [01:04:43] So I'm gonna support staff's decision on this [01:04:46] based on the 50% FEMA guidelines [01:04:47] on what it would take to bring this [01:04:49] to where it needs to be in compliance. [01:04:51] And I'm not gonna approve, or I'm gonna, [01:04:54] we'll state the verbiage properly when we come to vote. [01:04:58] But. [01:04:59] Okay, is that a motion? [01:05:00] Let me see, let me read the actual. [01:05:02] I would just say that the real numbers for the repair [01:05:04] will be significantly less than that 50%, 50%. [01:05:08] I'm going to agree with staff's denial [01:05:10] of the appeal to keep this from being condemned [01:05:15] or taken down, and what's the best verbiage to use? [01:05:18] You just move to deny the appeal. [01:05:20] Move to deny the appeal. [01:05:21] Do we have a second? [01:05:22] Yes. [01:05:23] To the maker, anything further? [01:05:25] No, once again, it's just take care of your stuff. [01:05:27] Drives me nuts. [01:05:28] Neighbors and residents of the city [01:05:30] have to live around this. [01:05:32] It's not right. [01:05:33] Do we have a second? [01:05:35] Ditto. [01:05:37] Mr. Murphy? [01:05:39] Yeah, the bottom line is, and I'm not beating you up, [01:05:41] because I know you're just representing them, [01:05:43] but had the city not initiated anything, [01:05:46] nothing would have been done, period. [01:05:47] And it would have furthered women's disrepair. [01:05:50] And for it to get to that state anyways [01:05:52] means they weren't looking at it or didn't care. [01:05:55] So I just, yeah, can't go with that. [01:05:58] Mr. Allman? [01:05:59] I'm just not sure what the expertise is [01:06:05] of Lifestone Consulting and the document [01:06:07] that was handed to us, [01:06:09] but I'd be hard-pressed to find any repair [01:06:14] of that ceiling that would be $1,500. [01:06:16] And I am discouraged, but interested in learning more [01:06:21] about the idea that the non-structural elements [01:06:26] of a building don't count when it comes to its valuation, [01:06:29] because I think a building is valued on what it is. [01:06:33] And the argument is being, [01:06:35] I'm sorry, there's a motion on the floor. [01:06:36] I'm sorry, yeah, you're right. [01:06:38] And the value, I want to get educated more on this. [01:06:44] This is the second time we've had these kind of questions [01:06:46] related to calculations, [01:06:49] but I'm going to defer to the expertise of the staff [01:06:52] and join them on the motion. [01:06:55] Any further discussion? [01:06:57] Hearing none, all those in favor? [01:06:59] Mr. Mayor, before you call, [01:07:00] I'm sorry, we had your discussion. [01:07:04] This is at council. [01:07:06] Well, I was just going to see [01:07:07] if there would be any opportunity [01:07:09] to just ask for a continuous to work with Mr. Dryden [01:07:12] and maybe come back in two weeks. [01:07:14] This is already in front of council [01:07:16] with a motion and a second. [01:07:18] John, I'm sorry.
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2019/2020 Street Improvement Project Task Order No. 5565-044 - Engineering Services
approvedCouncil approved Task Order 5565-044 with Genesis Half Group in the amount of $155,400 for engineering services (design, bidding, and construction phases) supporting the 2019-2020 Street Improvement Project. Streets to be addressed include Mahan Court, Mandy Lane, Bandora Avenue, Kentucky Avenue, Crossbow Lane, Indiana Avenue, George Street, and streets in the Hazel Dawn neighborhood.
- motion:Approve Task Order 5565-044 with Genesis Half Group for $155,400 in engineering services for the 2019-2020 Street Improvement Project. (passed)
Bandora AvenueCrossbow LaneGeorge StreetHazel Dawn neighborhoodIndiana AvenueKentucky AvenueMahan CourtMandy LaneGenesis Half GroupMr. MurphyMr. RiveraMs. Manns2019-2020 Street Improvement ProjectHazel Dawn neighborhoodJasmine Hills neighborhoodTask Order 5565-044paving program▶ Jump to 1:07:20 in the videoShow transcriptHide transcript
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[01:07:20] Any further discussion? [01:07:22] Hearing none, all those in favor, [01:07:24] please signify by saying aye. [01:07:26] Aye. [01:07:27] Opposed, like sign. [01:07:29] Motion to deny passes. [01:07:32] Next, street improvement project task order 5565-044. [01:07:40] Yes, sir, Mr. Mayor. [01:07:41] The project task order in front of you [01:07:45] is to support the 2019-2020 street improvement project, [01:07:51] the design, bidding, and construction phases. [01:07:54] The recommendation from the staff [01:07:57] is to hire the Genesis Half Group [01:08:01] in the amount of $155,400 for the project, [01:08:05] and Mr. Rivera has prepared a PowerPoint presentation [01:08:08] for your review. [01:08:10] Thank you, Ms. Manns. [01:08:11] I just wanted to give you the project limits, [01:08:14] and we ended up taking some pictures [01:08:17] of some of the road conditions so that you could see it. [01:08:20] The first set of roads that we have [01:08:22] is Mahan Court and a portion of Mandy Lane. [01:08:27] And you can see from this photo here, [01:08:30] you've got a lot of the areas of the roads [01:08:33] that's starting to deteriorate and get into the sub-base. [01:08:37] There's a huge patch here, [01:08:38] and as you continue on, there's even more. [01:08:41] And then, of course, you can see this. [01:08:43] That goes up in some of our right-of-way. [01:08:46] Our next street is Bandora Avenue. [01:08:49] This is between Congress Street and Rowan Road. [01:08:53] We would consider this a collector road. [01:08:55] And you can see where we've performed maintenance [01:08:58] on some of the standard expansion cracks, [01:09:01] but you can see some depressions [01:09:02] that are opening up in the sub-base. [01:09:05] And right here, you can see where a pothole's just opened up. [01:09:08] And as you go further down, [01:09:10] you can see what we call alligator cracking, [01:09:12] where it's a combination of expansion, [01:09:15] but the road basically is falling apart. [01:09:18] Our next street is Kentucky Avenue [01:09:20] between Madison Street and Davis Street. [01:09:25] And this street, pretty much the whole length of it, [01:09:28] is falling apart in the portion. [01:09:31] This road is designed what we would call an inverted crown. [01:09:34] Most of your standard roads have a crown to them, [01:09:38] and the road ends up taking and draining [01:09:40] to both sides of the road. [01:09:43] In this case, these inverted crowns, [01:09:45] the water, stormwater, goes down the center of the road. [01:09:49] And in this case, this portion is deteriorating. [01:09:53] The next set of streets that we have [01:09:55] is in the Jasmine Hills neighborhood. [01:09:58] That is just south of Massachusetts Avenue [01:10:00] and west of Rowan Road, east of Congress Street. [01:10:06] This is Crossbow Lane, and this picture, [01:10:10] it depicts the conditions of all the roads [01:10:14] in this neighborhood. [01:10:15] And you can see where we've made several patches, [01:10:20] and you can see where we've had to come back and repatch. [01:10:24] And then, of course, this is an example [01:10:26] where it just keeps expanding and expanding. [01:10:33] And so this section is Indiana Avenue. [01:10:36] This is between Madison Street, I believe, [01:10:39] all the way to the eastern city limits. [01:10:42] This intersection right here is at Van Buren. [01:10:46] And you can see right here where Pothole is opened up. [01:10:49] There's patchwork here. [01:10:51] We've got some alligator cracking that's starting, [01:10:54] and it just continues all the way down the road. [01:11:00] The street here is George Street. [01:11:02] This is just west of Gulf High School. [01:11:07] And you can see where the road is falling apart, [01:11:10] all the alligator cracking. [01:11:11] And it just, as you move towards Cecilia Street, [01:11:16] the road is just falling apart. [01:11:20] And this set of streets is in the Hazel Dawn neighborhood. [01:11:25] It is just west of Briar Patch. [01:11:32] And the characteristics on this street [01:11:35] are all along these edge works here, [01:11:39] where you've got your Miami Curb, [01:11:41] where, again, you have drainage, [01:11:42] and you can see where it's eating away the road. [01:11:45] Can you go back a slide to the description [01:11:49] of where it is again? [01:11:51] Yeah. [01:11:52] It's right off of Trouble Creek, just south of Trouble Creek. [01:11:54] That's all city limits within it. [01:11:56] Or north of Trouble Creek, yes, sir. [01:11:58] Thank you. [01:12:02] Recommend that you approve the task order. [01:12:04] I don't know if you have any questions. [01:12:06] Open it up for public comment. [01:12:09] Seeing none, bring it back to council. [01:12:11] Move approval. [01:12:12] Second. [01:12:13] To the maker. [01:12:15] That's great. [01:12:16] I mean, it's very clear that what the council [01:12:19] did some time back to create this paving program [01:12:24] was the right thing to do. [01:12:26] And the picture tells a thousand words. [01:12:29] And I know we gotta let the clerk get home [01:12:33] because you're not feeling too well, [01:12:34] so I'll try not to do a thousand words. [01:12:37] Thank you. [01:12:38] Mr. Murphy, you had a second. [01:12:40] I'll keep that in mind. [01:12:42] Regularly? [01:12:43] Yeah, just look forward to getting all the roads repaired. [01:12:46] That's all. [01:12:47] Deputy Mayor? [01:12:48] No, it's great to see progress like this, for sure. [01:12:50] I just have one question. [01:12:52] Are we actually saving money by backing up [01:12:55] on this year's and next year's program? [01:12:58] Well, in response to the question, [01:13:02] we were able to secure the same bid prices [01:13:05] for a second year on the contract, [01:13:07] so the answer would be yes.
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2019 – Library HVAC System Replacement Project
approvedCouncil approved the removal and replacement of the library's HVAC system at a cost of $340,900 from Air Mechanical Service Corporation via piggyback pricing. The replacement upgrades the system from 55-ton to 70-ton with redundancy (two-fan air handler, two-compressor unit) as part of the 2019 library renovation project.
- motion:Motion to approve the library HVAC system replacement project with Air Mechanical Service Corporation for $340,900. (passed)
Air Mechanical Service CorporationAllmanAndyRivera2019 Library Renovation ProjectCity CIP ProgramLibrary HVAC System Replacement▶ Jump to 1:13:11 in the videoShow transcriptHide transcript
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[01:13:11] There's no further discussion. [01:13:12] All those in favor, [01:13:13] please signify by saying aye. [01:13:14] Aye. [01:13:15] Opposed, like sign. [01:13:16] Motion passes. [01:13:17] Next, a library HVAC system replacement project. [01:13:24] Mr. Mayor, members of council, [01:13:26] the agenda item before you [01:13:30] relates to the library renovation project. [01:13:35] And we are recommending a removal and replacement [01:13:40] of the library's HVAC system. [01:13:43] And the cost of the project is $340,900 [01:13:50] from Air Mechanical Service Corporation [01:13:53] in conformance with the pricing terms [01:13:57] and conditions of a piggyback. [01:13:59] Mr. Rivera, do you have more comments [01:14:01] about this agenda item? [01:14:03] Just wanted to add that this was identified [01:14:06] in the 2019 renovation project schematic design submittal, [01:14:12] and it called out that the existing HVAC system [01:14:15] was identified that it was in need of replacement. [01:14:19] Two reasons for that was due to the age [01:14:22] and condition of the equipment. [01:14:24] The second reason for the call of its replacement [01:14:27] is because with the proposed renovations, [01:14:30] it would create an undersized system condition. [01:14:33] So they recommended going from a 55-ton unit [01:14:37] to a 70-ton unit size. [01:14:40] When we talked with the consultants, [01:14:42] we had explained to them about the need [01:14:44] for a redundancy system as well. [01:14:47] And so they've added into the system [01:14:50] a two-fan air handling unit [01:14:53] and a two-compressor unit system. [01:14:57] And this would also include controller, [01:15:00] grades as well and we identified this project in the city's current CIP program and we would [01:15:06] recommend approval. [01:15:09] Thank you. [01:15:10] I'll open it up for public comment. [01:15:13] Seeing no one come forward, bring it back to council. [01:15:14] I just have a question. [01:15:15] Does that mean a dual system so if one side shuts down, then we've still got AC going [01:15:21] to the unit? [01:15:22] Yes, sir. [01:15:23] We're going to make Andy happy. [01:15:27] Andy suffered. [01:15:28] She's smiling ear to ear there. [01:15:32] Move for approval. [01:15:33] We have a motion and a second to the maker. [01:15:37] Nothing more. [01:15:38] To the second. [01:15:39] Mr. Allman. [01:15:40] Yes, sir. [01:15:41] Deputy Mayor. [01:15:42] Nothing. [01:15:43] In that case, all those in favor, please signify by saying aye. [01:15:44] Aye. [01:15:45] Opposed, like sign. [01:15:47] Motion passes.
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Bid Award - ITB20-003 2019 Gloria Swanson Parking Lot Improvements
approvedCouncil awarded the bid for the 2019 Gloria Swanson Parking Lot Improvements project to Augustine Construction for $992,000 (sole bidder). The project adds 35 parking spaces (123 total), two EV charging stations, streetscaping, hardscape crosswalks, and landscaping near the Hacienda Hotel and Sims Park. Funding gaps will be covered by deferring city hall improvements and pulling forward Francis Avenue Park funds, all to be completed before the Hacienda Hotel opens.
- motion:Motion to approve award of ITB20-003 to Augustine Construction for the 2019 Gloria Swanson Parking Lot Improvements at $992,000. (passed)
Francis Avenue ParkGloria Swanson parking lotIllinois AvenueAugustine ConstructionHacienda HotelNew Port Richey Community CooperativeNew Port Richey Historical SocietyNew Port Richey Rotary ClubDavisJim GundersonMarilyn DuchantMr. RiveraMr. StarkeyCIP programChasco steering committeeDowntown parking implementation studyITB20-003Penny for Pasco▶ Jump to 1:15:49 in the videoShow transcriptHide transcript
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[01:15:49] Next is bid award ITB 20-003, Gloria Swanson. [01:15:53] Yes. [01:15:54] Mr. Rivera will present the agenda item. [01:16:00] Thank you. [01:16:01] This request for council to review and consider is approval of the attached sole bid in the [01:16:06] amount of $992,000 and award the 2019 Gloria Swanson parking lot improvement project to [01:16:14] Augustine Construction. [01:16:17] If you recall during the downtown parking implementation study, the Gloria Swanson parking [01:16:23] lot was identified as an area in need of parking that it was called out that it would [01:16:31] become deficient with the reopening of the Hacienda Hotel. [01:16:34] There were several options, conceptual options that were discussed with council, this one [01:16:39] being the one that was selected. [01:16:42] Basically the proposed parking lot improvements create 123 vehicle spaces or 35 additional [01:16:50] spaces to the existing 88 that are currently available. [01:16:55] It would also include two electronic vehicle charging stations. [01:17:03] In this conceptual plan that we've got, I just wanted to let you know, it would include [01:17:06] the expansion of the existing streetscape area on this side of the parking lot as well, [01:17:12] this side of the Hacienda Hotel. [01:17:15] We would have additional parking, parallel parking here, installation of landscape palms [01:17:21] along the Hacienda portion, landscaping here on both sides of the entrance of Sims Park. [01:17:29] We would have hardscape, crosswalks in the three areas here in front of the Hacienda [01:17:35] Hotel, the main entrance to the park, and then over here near the incubator where we [01:17:43] have this new addition of parking spaces that are up here on this side with additional [01:17:49] landscaping. [01:17:50] Of course, the project would include, I said hardscaping, but it would also include some [01:17:59] additional lighting improvements as well. [01:18:03] We would recommend that you accept it simply because not only have we worked with Augustine [01:18:10] Construction in the past, and they've done excellent work, but the engineering estimate [01:18:16] for the project was right around a million dollars. [01:18:20] So even though it was a sold bid, it did come within that realm of what the expected cost [01:18:25] would be. [01:18:27] The funding that we have is identified as penny for Pasco dollars. [01:18:32] The budget amount that we have in here is $640,000. [01:18:37] I think that was budgeted in the CIP program, so we would recommend that we would, with [01:18:44] your approval of course, would be to utilize the $200,000 that was in the CIP document [01:18:51] for city hall improvements, which included restroom upgrades as well as some interior [01:18:59] block wall improvements. [01:19:02] That project would still be expected to occur. [01:19:05] We would just push it back to October of 2020, and we would expect that the project, [01:19:13] if we got started, we might have a last pay request to where we would go over into the [01:19:18] next budget year. [01:19:20] If not, we have pulled up the Francis Avenue Park amount of $192,000 to be able to utilize [01:19:29] this construction and get it done before the Hacienda Hotel opens up. [01:19:34] Again, with that project, we would just push that into October 2020. [01:19:38] We would still, as a matter of fact, it's in the design phase now, so we would still [01:19:44] do the design work for the Francis Avenue project. [01:19:48] It would just, construction would just be pushed back. [01:19:51] Thank you. [01:19:52] I'll open it up for public comment. [01:19:53] Please come on down and give us your name and address for the record. [01:20:03] I have a question about the plaque and the pillar. [01:20:13] Let the record show it's Marilyn Duchant. [01:20:15] Oh, Marilyn Duchant, Illinois Avenue. [01:20:18] Thank you. [01:20:20] Yes, the existing parking lot has the pillar with stones and a plaque, and that was put [01:20:28] up in 1988 with the New Port Richey in cooperation with what was then the New Port Richey Community [01:20:36] Cooperative, and I was the executive director at that time, and we worked in partnership [01:20:41] with them. [01:20:42] Now, obviously, with all these changes, it won't be a project of the New Port Richey [01:20:46] Rotary Club, so I'm just curious about that particular pillar. [01:20:50] What happens? [01:20:51] We'd be accepting funds from the Rotary Club if they'd like to donate. [01:20:57] Oh, aren't you clever? [01:21:00] Yes, okay. [01:21:01] It's an old plaque that we'd have to redo. [01:21:06] Yes. [01:21:07] Okay. [01:21:08] All right. [01:21:09] That's a good idea. [01:21:10] I just was curious. [01:21:11] It was a nice project back all those years ago. [01:21:13] Thanks so much. [01:21:14] Thank you. [01:21:15] Anyone else? [01:21:16] Seeing no one else come forward, bring it back to council. [01:21:19] I have two. [01:21:20] I have a question. [01:21:21] How many additional spaces are we adding? [01:21:23] Thirty-five. [01:21:24] Thirty-five. [01:21:25] Thirty-five. [01:21:26] Thirty-five. [01:21:27] Thirty-five or thirty-three. [01:21:28] Thirty. [01:21:29] I have a question. [01:21:30] What's the width of the crosswalk over to the Hacienda? [01:21:34] Because that's going to be their main entrance, the grand entrance. [01:21:38] I don't know that answer offhand. [01:21:40] It is probably three times the size of a regular crosswalk. [01:21:44] We're actually planning on having the pavers and stuff, and it's going to be almost like [01:21:48] an egg shell shaped. [01:21:51] I just want to make sure that Jim's happy with the width and stuff. [01:21:55] Yes. [01:21:56] I've shared the plan with Mr. Gunderson, and he is satisfied with the improvements as they're [01:22:02] being proposed. [01:22:03] Okay. [01:22:04] And also, redoing that sidewalk along the front of that? [01:22:07] Yes. [01:22:08] Okay. [01:22:09] Now, I brought this up to you, and we've taken it to the Historical Society. [01:22:12] Am I correct? [01:22:13] Yes. [01:22:14] Did the possibility of putting stars there for recognizing some of the history of New Port Richey, Johnny Cash, Sorensen, those type of things that would have dressed it up and [01:22:25] maybe attract people to the front door? [01:22:27] Davis. [01:22:28] No, not Davis. [01:22:29] No. [01:22:30] Not Davis ever. [01:22:31] Not Davis ever. [01:22:32] When I walk away, there's going to be no marks on this town. [01:22:36] Visual things, but not my name. [01:22:39] I want that to continue to move forward with the Historical Society. [01:22:45] Possibly Avery, possibly Sims. [01:22:48] Those type of names. [01:22:49] Mr. Starkey. [01:22:50] So, this does include the streetscaping in front of the Hacienda on the west side, or [01:22:55] it does not? [01:22:56] It does. [01:22:57] Okay. [01:22:58] Put it in the picture. [01:22:59] We need additional parking spaces with the hotel opening. [01:23:03] I'm sure I'm going to vote in favor. [01:23:06] I'm just having a really, really hard time with this cost. [01:23:10] We're talking, with the streetscaping, $28,342 per additional parking spot, spaces. [01:23:16] That's a lot. [01:23:17] I mean, there's no way to cut costs at all here and still have it nice. [01:23:20] It just seems like so much money for this project. [01:23:23] It's paving and some sidewalks. [01:23:26] It's not my first time getting sticker shock up here, believe me, but this is a lot of money. [01:23:32] It's much needed for the project, but I'm just really surprised with the cost being so high. [01:23:37] We'll do value engineering where we can. [01:23:41] Yeah. [01:23:42] I'm not trying to cut corners. [01:23:43] I'm just thinking out loud here. [01:23:46] It's a lot of money. [01:23:47] It's needed, but I'm very, very surprised this cost this much. [01:23:50] Just bring your friends with your golf carts and get two to one. [01:23:53] I'm just kidding. [01:23:54] May I make a motion? [01:23:55] If you would like to make a second to your motion. [01:23:58] Yeah. [01:23:59] Move for approval. [01:24:00] And we have a second. [01:24:01] To the maker? [01:24:02] Nothing more. [01:24:03] To the second? [01:24:04] Yeah. [01:24:05] I think that, from a priority standpoint, we've set this as a priority. [01:24:09] I appreciate that. [01:24:11] From a budget standpoint, the projects that may be wanted for our own digs are being deferred and not taken out of the plans. [01:24:25] But you've identified the funding source. [01:24:29] It's complementary to the kind of dollars that have been spent in the park and elsewhere. [01:24:36] The only question that I would have is sometime in the future, [01:24:39] I would like to take up the issue of our vending license because I think we've not really been applying the rules of the vending licenses. [01:24:49] And I don't know where or if there's going to be some sense of ownership. [01:24:54] But these are parking spaces. [01:24:56] I think they need to stay parking spaces. [01:24:59] And I think that we should not have expectations that we're going to have vendors in this particular lot, given the amount of traffic that we have, [01:25:08] and not to put them out of business, but I'm not so sure. [01:25:14] I think I would like to see that discussion separately and off the topic of the motion. [01:25:18] My apologies. [01:25:19] Before we vote, may I ask one more question? [01:25:21] Yes. [01:25:22] How does this tie in? [01:25:23] You're on the Chesco steering committee with the carnival and everything. [01:25:26] We'll have that there, do you know? [01:25:28] I don't know, but I think that my hat as a city councilman is kind of taking precedence. [01:25:34] No, I'm just wondering if this was presented to the board or the Chesco steering committee and they know we're doing this. [01:25:40] They've been advised that there would be changes that would be made, [01:25:43] and I think that from the looks of the parking lot and the way that it's structured, [01:25:49] with, you know, this brand-new parking lot, what goes on it, if anything, from a standpoint of to that point, [01:25:57] I would say that just last Saturday I went to the Dunedin craft show that they have. [01:26:03] I was amazed. [01:26:04] That thing is like ten blocks long with just an incredible amount of foot traffic, and it went down their main road.
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Quarterly Cash & Investment Performance Report
discussedFinance staff (Mrs. Feast) presented the quarterly cash and investment report as of 9/30/2019, showing the city held $30,399,600 across checking and investment accounts and earned $134,234 in investment income for the quarter. Council requested that future reports include the rate of return on each investment.
- direction:Council requested staff include the earnings rate/rate of return for each investment in future quarterly reports. (none)
Florida Municipal Investment TrustFlorida PrimeMrs. FeastFY19 water and sewer bond proceedsQuarterly Cash & Investment Performance Report as of 9-30-2019SBA accountU.S. Treasury obligations▶ Jump to 1:26:08 in the videoShow transcriptHide transcript
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[01:26:13] So I know that it's possible to set certain things up in roads [01:26:17] and not to the degree that there's any input that would be required for electricity if there's an anticipation of using it. [01:26:26] But I know we have that discussion coming up, and we as a council kind of helped to design this thing. [01:26:32] I feel some sense of pride that we sat here and worked with a pencil and a work session. [01:26:38] So to me this is a good example of us giving some direction and staff taking it. [01:26:45] So I appreciate it. [01:26:47] Mr. Murphy? [01:26:48] This is a project that we really need to get done quickly to benefit everybody involved. [01:26:55] So I'm looking forward to seeing completion. [01:26:58] Just kind of on your question about the committee, [01:27:02] the people that I've talked to on the committee, they're well aware that that's pretty much going to be not a location for the carnival period. [01:27:10] So I think they are aware of that. [01:27:12] Timing-wise, when will construction and rip-up and stuff be underway? [01:27:18] We've talked with the contractor and had some preliminary discussions [01:27:23] and told them that if it was approved that we wanted to immediately sit down [01:27:27] and start working out a schedule around those events. [01:27:30] So it might be something that they're doing a portion of it, [01:27:35] and then they flip-flop after Chasco or something like that. [01:27:39] But they are aware of it, and we are going to work out. [01:27:42] I appreciate the desire of Chasco to be able to use the lot, [01:27:48] but at the same time I would like to avoid the mainstream landing effect of waiting until the monsoon season to start paving. [01:27:57] We need to do this during the dry season if at all possible. [01:28:02] Further discussion? [01:28:05] Anyone? [01:28:07] Hearing none, all those in favor, please signify by saying aye. [01:28:10] Aye. [01:28:11] Opposed? [01:28:12] Like sign. [01:28:13] Motion passes. [01:28:14] Next, quarterly cash and investment performance report. [01:28:18] Mrs. Feast will be presenting the cash and investment report to you as of September 30th, 2019. [01:28:27] Good evening. [01:28:29] Included in your agenda packet, you received the quarterly cash and investment report as of 9-30-19 for your review. [01:28:39] Tonight I'll just provide you with a brief summary of that report. [01:28:45] So as of 9-30-2019, the city had a total of $30,399,600 in checking and various investment accounts. [01:28:59] In checking, there was a total of $5.2 million. [01:29:02] In our government investment pools, you can see that we had in our Florida prime account $15,347,889. [01:29:14] And this includes the water and sewer bond proceeds that we received during fiscal year 19. [01:29:20] That's why that dollar amount is higher than it has been in past quarters. [01:29:25] Also, in our Florida Municipal Investment Trust, we have $4.2, $4.3 million. [01:29:31] And U.S. Treasury obligations were at $5.5 million. [01:29:36] For the quarter, the city earned a total of $134,234 in investment income. [01:29:48] The city's portfolio is made up of the following. [01:29:53] The investments are in checking and investment accounts that I just went over, [01:29:57] but the percentage breakdown or percentage allocation. [01:30:00] is as follows, 18% in our treasury obligations, [01:30:05] 18% in checking, 14% in our Florida Municipal Trust Fund, [01:30:10] and 50% in our SBA account. [01:30:13] Those percentages are in compliance [01:30:15] with our investment policy. [01:30:20] My final slide provides you with the change [01:30:22] from the previous quarter. [01:30:24] You can see that in checking, [01:30:26] it did decline by approximately 700,000, [01:30:30] and that's due to just year-end closeout of projects [01:30:34] and other year-end expenditures that are common. [01:30:39] And then in our government interest pools, [01:30:43] our investment pools, and the U.S. Treasury, [01:30:46] the only change from last quarter is the interest earned. [01:30:50] And that's all I have. [01:30:51] Questions, anyone? [01:30:53] I would just say, if it's possible, [01:30:55] it'd be of interest to know what the earnings rate is [01:30:59] in some of those, you know, [01:31:01] are we getting a third of a percent interest, [01:31:03] a half a percent, 1%, what are we current earning? [01:31:08] You're giving us financial information, [01:31:09] but it doesn't really tell us what the return is [01:31:13] on any of those investments. [01:31:15] That'd be interesting, thank you. [01:31:16] Thank you, good suggestion.
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Three Minute Report: Public Works
Public Works staff delivered a three-minute activity update covering 50 agenda items, 37 DRC reviews, 31 CIP projects, neighborhood cleanup day results showing declining tires/TVs but increasing computers/monitors, water treatment plant maintenance, lift station platform safety, police boat dock dredging, decorative street signs on Madison Street, City Hall courtyard tile work, dumpster enclosure at Recreation and Aquatic Center, Congress/Indiana Avenue intersection improvements, Sims Park grading and sodding, and wastewater treatment plant repairs.
City Hall CourtyardCongress and Indiana Avenue intersectionMadison Street between Massachusetts and Main StreetRecreation and Aquatic CenterSims ParkRobertCIP projectsDRC reviewsNeighborhood Cleanup Day (Nov 2)SCADAlift station platform safety standardspeed feedback signs grantwastewater treatment plant ruptured pipe repair▶ Jump to 1:31:19 in the videoShow transcriptHide transcript
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[01:31:19] Anything else? [01:31:21] Hearing none, Crystal, thank you very, very much. [01:31:24] Next is three-minute report from Public Works. [01:31:30] At the time of two minutes and 40 seconds. [01:31:37] All right, this is the Public Works activity update. [01:31:40] Since the last time we presented to you, [01:31:43] we have brought to you 50 agenda items. [01:31:47] The administration has worked on 37 DRC reviews, [01:31:52] which included 13 projects, nine variance applications, [01:31:56] five rezoning applications, and then 10 miscellaneous items [01:32:00] such as sidewalk cafes, extension of premises, et cetera. [01:32:05] We have been involved in 31 CIP projects. [01:32:09] 13 of them are in design phase [01:32:11] and 18 in the construction phase. [01:32:15] We just had our neighborhood cleanup day on November 2nd. [01:32:20] These are the totals that we collected [01:32:22] and I just wanted to bring attention to a couple items. [01:32:26] You'll see that there's the 92 number over there [01:32:29] on tires and then 31. [01:32:31] 92 was the amount that we had back in 2017 [01:32:36] and previous to that. [01:32:38] And then where the TVs are at, we had 102 [01:32:41] and now we're down to about 43. [01:32:44] And what we're seeing is a steady decline in those items. [01:32:47] So that's basically telling you that these events [01:32:51] that we are having are having a major impact [01:32:55] on what we have going on out there. [01:33:00] You'll also see down at the bottom [01:33:01] where it says 13 computers and 19 monitors. [01:33:05] Back when we first started, [01:33:06] those numbers were maybe three and two. [01:33:09] So we've seen a decrease in TVs and tires [01:33:15] but we've seen an increase in the other items [01:33:17] that we've had. [01:33:19] Our dumpsters that we have out there, [01:33:22] they're the roll-off ones, [01:33:23] the large ones you're familiar with. [01:33:25] Those numbers have stayed pretty well consistent [01:33:27] with all the cleanups that we've had. [01:33:31] The shredding that we always do, [01:33:33] we weren't able to get those numbers for you [01:33:36] but those have always been a real high number. [01:33:40] Crews with the water treatment plant [01:33:42] have been busy going out to the different well houses [01:33:45] that we have and maintaining those. [01:33:49] This year we've been changing out the roofs where needed [01:33:53] and doing painting of the structures. [01:33:58] We've implemented into our standards platform safety. [01:34:03] These platforms will be installed [01:34:05] in all future lift stations that are installed. [01:34:08] And then of course the guys will be installing these [01:34:11] on our existing stations. [01:34:13] Back in the day, you either didn't have anything [01:34:16] preventing a fall over there [01:34:17] or you had like a little bit of some netting. [01:34:21] We've been very fortunate. [01:34:22] We've designed most of ours [01:34:24] to where the maintenance worker isn't standing behind them [01:34:29] with his back to that opening. [01:34:32] But this is the thing of the future [01:34:34] and we're excited about it. [01:34:36] We completed the dredging [01:34:38] and where at the police boat dock [01:34:42] at low tide or extreme low tides, [01:34:44] the police boat had a little bit of difficulties [01:34:46] getting to the dock. [01:34:48] That's been resolved. [01:34:50] We completed the decorative street signs [01:34:53] and post installations for Madison Street [01:34:57] between Massachusetts and Main Street. [01:35:01] We started working on pressure washing [01:35:04] and sealing of the tile at City Hall Courtyard [01:35:07] and then addressing a lot of the tile [01:35:09] that wasn't level and had come loose [01:35:12] that needed to be grouted again. [01:35:15] We completed the dumpster enclosure [01:35:18] at the Recreation and Aquatic Center. [01:35:21] We are in the middle of doing improvements [01:35:24] at the intersection of Congress and Indiana Avenue. [01:35:27] This intersection has been a troubled intersection [01:35:31] to say the least when it comes to vehicle conflicts. [01:35:34] We've installed our crosswalks that you see here. [01:35:37] We've taken and removed a couple trees [01:35:40] that we felt might be a problem [01:35:43] with the vision of people that are stopped, [01:35:46] relocated stop signs and stop bars. [01:35:50] And the grant that we came before you over the summer, [01:35:54] we're waiting on these types of speed feedback signs [01:35:57] to come in and we'll be installing those on Indiana Avenue [01:36:00] as well as Congress Street to let the motorists know [01:36:05] they need to slow down before they hit the intersection. [01:36:08] We just completed the grading of Sims Park [01:36:12] and throwing down new sod. [01:36:13] This is a slide from, if you're at the center of the park [01:36:17] and you're looking towards Bank Street, [01:36:20] this is where the amphitheater is. [01:36:22] The areas that we didn't get sod put down, [01:36:25] we went ahead and placed seed down, the rye grass. [01:36:29] And then Monday we started pressure washing [01:36:34] the canopies, the shelters, [01:36:37] as well as the playground equipment at Sims Park. [01:36:42] And our update on our wastewater treatment plant, [01:36:45] this is where we started with the ruptured pipe. [01:36:49] It has since been capped on both ends [01:36:51] and filled with flowable fill. [01:36:54] We have installed our surveillance camera [01:36:57] that's hooked up to the SCADA [01:36:59] where our plant mechanic monitors the plant. [01:37:04] We were able to finish cleaning out the aeration basin. [01:37:08] And then right now we're installing pipe. [01:37:12] And that's all I have. [01:37:14] Very good. [01:37:15] Questions, anyone? [01:37:18] Robert, thank you very much. [01:37:20] Tell your folks, job well done. [01:37:23] Next is communications and reports. [01:37:24] Mr. Murphy? [01:37:26] I'll start off with, went to League of Cities [01:37:31] legislative conference, [01:37:33] and they did come out with a couple of things, [01:37:37] which I'll pass on to Ms. Manz [01:37:38] she can distribute to you guys. [01:37:40] Some of it's some of the areas they want to look at, [01:37:44] you know, property rights, tax law, [01:37:49] cybersecurity, and kind of some talking points [01:37:51] and things like that on those subjects. [01:37:53] Looking at, and also a list of legislative bill summaries [01:37:58] basically that are against a home rule [01:38:02] that they want to look at and try to work on [01:38:05] and stop those basically, or change them one. [01:38:09] So, but that's all I really have, [01:38:13] but I'll get that to Ms. Manz [01:38:14] she can give it to you guys. [01:38:15] Mr. Allman? [01:38:17] I just want to let you know [01:38:18] to enjoy your slippery straws here. [01:38:22] These non-plastic do have a different [01:38:28] taste to them, I guess, [01:38:31] but they came from the resiliency coalition [01:38:34] and reminding you that in January, early in January, [01:38:37] there's a resiliency summit. [01:38:39] That's going to be a big deal. [01:38:40] It's the culmination of a year's worth of scientific study [01:38:45] on the flood and the perils of flood. [01:38:48] And hopefully we get that information out [01:38:52] to anyone who's interested. [01:38:53] It's at the Carolyn, I think in Pinellas, [01:38:58] and it's a two day event, [01:38:59] but I would encourage you to look at that [01:39:05] as something that talks about [01:39:09] how we're going to be resilient to flood in the future [01:39:11] and long-term planning. [01:39:13] I'll also pass along to the city manager [01:39:17] a request when we do relook at our CRA, [01:39:20] particularly we're talking about [01:39:21] maybe contracting some of the areas, [01:39:24] that the topic of our compliance [01:39:27] with the peril of flood statutes [01:39:30] would be also looking at how our plan [01:39:32] addresses future development. [01:39:35] I hate to see us spend a lot of money [01:39:36] on anything that isn't designed to be lasting [01:39:40] long in the future. [01:39:42] Cities don't remodel themselves that often. [01:39:45] It's been a hundred years [01:39:46] and we're well underway with it, [01:39:48] but my time is up apparently. [01:39:51] So. [01:39:52] No, it's not at all. [01:39:54] We got a councilman. [01:39:55] We're not timing it. [01:39:57] We're not timing it. [01:39:59] I'm done. [01:40:00] You should. [01:40:01] Put it back on. [01:40:02] Hey, you're a close second there. [01:40:05] Me? [01:40:06] Speaking of councilman Davis. [01:40:10] Just to reiterate, [01:40:12] Matt pretty much summed up with some of the things [01:40:13] that I was going to talk about. [01:40:15] And again, we'll pass it on to Debbie. [01:40:19] She'll get it out to us.
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