First reading on rezoning 2.82 acres at the former First Baptist Church site (6571 Circle Boulevard) for an 85-unit apartment development by People Places, LLC.
23 items on the agenda · 12 decisions recorded
On the agenda
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Pledge of Allegiance
Procedural item: Pledge of Allegiance and moment of silence honoring servicemen and women.
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[00:00:21] Thank you. [00:00:22] I'd like to ask you all to stand and join me in the Pledge of Allegiance and remain [00:00:23] standing for a moment of silence in honor of our servicemen and women at home and abroad. [00:00:29] I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for [00:00:34] which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
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Moment of Silence
Pledge of Allegiance and a moment of silence held in honor of servicemen and women at home and abroad.
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[00:00:22] I'd like to ask you all to stand and join me in the Pledge of Allegiance and remain [00:00:23] standing for a moment of silence in honor of our servicemen and women at home and abroad. [00:00:29] I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for [00:00:34] which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
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Approval of April 18, 2017 Regular Meeting Minutes
approvedCouncil approved the minutes of the April 18, 2017 regular meeting by voice vote.
- motion:Approve the April 18, 2017 regular meeting minutes. (passed)
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[00:00:46] Thank you. [00:00:47] You may be seated. [00:00:52] The next item on the agenda is approval of the April 18th regular meeting minutes. [00:00:56] Move for approval. [00:00:58] We have a motion and a second. [00:00:59] Any discussion? [00:01:00] Hearing none, all those in favor, please signify by saying aye. [00:01:03] Aye. [00:01:04] Opposed, the like sign. [00:01:05] Next is the Library Advisory Board report.
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Library Advisory Board Report
discussedMrs. Hook, chair of the New Port Richey Library Advisory Board, presented a letter to council requesting inclusion of library expansion and additional staff in the 2017-2018 budget. She cited a state ROI study showing $10.18 returned per library dollar, growth in library usage, the 26-year-old building's cramped conditions, and an 83.5% community survey response favoring expansion.
- direction:Council acknowledged receipt of the Library Advisory Board's letter and indicated recommendations would be considered during the upcoming budget season. (none)
New Port Richey LibraryNew Port Richey Library Advisory BoardCarol CaseyDiane AyersKatrina HopkinsKelly HackmanLiz HarfMark VanderbrookMrs. HookMs. ManzRose Moore2010-2017 long-range plan2012-2017 long-range plan2017-2028 budgetAmericans with Disabilities ActLibrary ROI studyState of Florida Library Association standards▶ Jump to 1:06 in the videoShow transcriptHide transcript
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[00:01:07] Ms. Manz. [00:01:08] Yes, sir. [00:01:09] Mr. Mayor, we have Mrs. Hook present this evening on behalf of the Library Advisory [00:01:17] Board to report to you this evening. [00:01:20] Thank you. [00:01:21] Good evening, Mrs. Hook. [00:01:28] I'm on the agenda. [00:01:29] Do you want me to write it? [00:01:30] No, you're fine. [00:01:31] Okay. [00:01:32] You might pull the mic down a little. [00:01:36] I have lots of paper, but it's a short report. [00:01:38] Pull the mic. [00:01:39] Okay. [00:01:40] There you go. [00:01:41] Thank you. [00:01:42] All right. [00:01:43] Thank you. [00:01:46] I come before you tonight as chair. [00:01:48] Excuse me. [00:01:49] I'm recovering. [00:01:50] Good morning. [00:01:51] No, I have. [00:01:52] Thank you. [00:01:53] Thank you. [00:01:54] I come before you tonight as chair of the New Port Richey Library Advisory Board. [00:01:59] We're concerned over the lack of inclusion of funds for library expansion and staff. [00:02:06] In the past 2012 to 2017 long-range plan, very little was expended to achieve the library [00:02:14] extension plans, so we respectfully request that this letter become a part of the record. [00:02:22] The Library Advisory Board consists of Diane Ayers, Carol Casey, Liz Harf, Mark Vanderbrook, [00:02:30] who's here today, Kelly Hackman, Rose Moore, and Katrina Hopkins. [00:02:36] I'm serving as the chair. [00:02:44] Dear council members, wouldn't it be exciting to learn that a business in New York [00:02:50] Sorry. [00:02:51] In New Port Richey is showing a return on investment, ROI, of $10.18 and that that same [00:02:59] business has as its goals the very same goals articulated by the city. [00:03:05] Those being reducing crime, improving living standards, and nurturing a thriving business [00:03:12] community. [00:03:14] What is this business? [00:03:16] None other than the New Port Richey Library. [00:03:19] Yes, although the library is a not-for-profit entity, a state of Florida study showed that [00:03:25] the return on investment, the ROI, for every library dollar invested averages $10.18. [00:03:37] From 2006 to 2016, the number of registered library borrowers increased by more than 40%. [00:03:45] The number of library visits increased by 30%, and the total circulation of library [00:03:51] materials more than tripled. [00:03:54] Yet over the same period, no library expansion is incurred in terms of either physical space [00:04:01] or library staff. [00:04:03] In particular, additional staff is needed in order to increase library hours. [00:04:10] The numbers clearly show that the library is being utilized as intended as a community [00:04:15] resource, for both educational and entertainment purposes, both of which are vital to the city, [00:04:22] which is currently undergoing positive economic change and growth. [00:04:28] It is imperative that our library be part of the improvement plans being developed and [00:04:32] instituted by the city council. [00:04:36] And we ask your assistance with both short- and long-term financial commitments and an [00:04:41] approved expansion plan. [00:04:45] The library building opened 26 years ago. [00:04:48] It's cramped and overflowing. [00:04:51] In a recent library survey, 83.5% of the community respondents indicated that it's time for the [00:04:59] library to expand. [00:05:02] Despite expansion and approval in several capital improvement plans, and as recently [00:05:07] as the 2010-2017 long-range plan, expansion has been delayed. [00:05:13] We implore you to consider the valuable contribution the library makes to New Port Richey Goals [00:05:20] and include the library expansion in the upcoming 2017-28 budget. [00:05:26] Many citizens who were born in the city have indicated how proud they are of their library. [00:05:32] It's won many awards throughout the years. [00:05:35] To continue this, the library must expand to be progressive and to comply with Americans [00:05:42] with Disabilities Act regulations and the State of Florida Library Association standards. [00:05:50] The library board looks forward to working with the city council to achieve these objectives, [00:05:55] most sincerely. [00:05:57] Thank you. [00:05:58] Thank you. [00:05:59] If you could provide that letter to the city clerk. [00:06:02] I know you can't see it from here, but for your benefit, I would point out I'm wearing my library book. [00:06:10] I'm so pleased. [00:06:12] Thank you. [00:06:13] It's very handsome. [00:06:14] We will certainly keep the recommendations of the library advisory board in mind as we go into budget season this summer. [00:06:21] That's what prompted this. [00:06:22] Thank you very much. [00:06:23] Thank you very, very much. [00:06:25] Next, we have three proclamations.
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Proclamation - Women's Lung Health Week
approvedThe Mayor read three proclamations by title only, including Women's Lung Health Month, Older Americans Month, and Kids to Park Day (May 6th at the Gray Preserve). Staff also announced a Women's Wellness Month talk hosted by Dr. Wanda Torres in the Oak Room, open to the public from 1 to 3.
Gray PreserveOak RoomMyNetworkOneParks and Recreation DepartmentElaineWanda TorresKids to Park DayNational Women's Wellness MonthOlder Americans MonthWomen's Lung Health Month▶ Jump to 6:26 in the videoShow transcriptHide transcript
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[00:06:29] They're all by title only, so we don't have to spend a whole lot of time on them. [00:06:36] The first of them is for Women's Long Health Month. [00:06:40] The second one is Older Americans Month. [00:06:44] The third one is Kids to Park Day, which will actually be this Saturday, May 6th, at the Gray Preserve. [00:06:53] I would encourage all of you guys to come out and join us there. [00:06:57] With that, I will pass these on to the city clerk. [00:07:00] Mr. Mayor, if I may insert into the National Women's Wellness Month, in honor of that, [00:07:06] the Parks and Rec Department is hosting a Women's Wellness Month talk. [00:07:15] Dr. Wanda Torres is hosting it. [00:07:17] It's open to the general public, and we want to thank Elaine for providing the Oak Room for us. [00:07:22] We appreciate the MyNetworkOne folks handing this off to you for that and appreciate that. [00:07:29] So we look forward to that, and that is open to the public from 1 to 3. [00:07:35] Thank you. [00:07:36] Thank you.
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Proclamation - Older Americans Month
approvedThe Mayor announced a proclamation recognizing Older Americans Month.
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[00:06:40] The second one is Older Americans Month. [00:06:44] The third one is Kids to Park Day, which will actually be this Saturday, May 6th, at the Gray Preserve.
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Proclamation - Kids to Parks Day
Brief follow-up announcement during the proclamation period noting that the Parks and Recreation Department is hosting a Women's Wellness Month talk by Dr. Wanda Torres in the Oak Room, open to the public from 1 to 3.
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[00:06:53] I would encourage all of you guys to come out and join us there. [00:06:57] With that, I will pass these on to the city clerk. [00:07:00] Mr. Mayor, if I may insert into the National Women's Wellness Month, in honor of that, [00:07:06] the Parks and Rec Department is hosting a Women's Wellness Month talk. [00:07:15] Dr. Wanda Torres is hosting it. [00:07:17] It's open to the general public, and we want to thank Elaine for providing the Oak Room for us. [00:07:22] We appreciate the MyNetworkOne folks handing this off to you for that and appreciate that. [00:07:29] So we look forward to that, and that is open to the public from 1 to 3. [00:07:35] Thank you. [00:07:36] Thank you.
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Police Pension Board Special Meeting Minutes - March 22, 2017
approvedon consentThe consent agenda, which included the Police Pension Board Special Meeting Minutes from March 22, 2017, was approved by unanimous voice vote.
- motion:Motion to approve the consent agenda. (passed)
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[00:08:07] Next item is the consent agenda. [00:08:12] Move for approval. [00:08:13] Second. [00:08:14] We have a motion and a second. [00:08:15] All those in favor, please signify by saying aye. [00:08:17] Aye. [00:08:18] Opposed? [00:08:19] The like sign. [00:08:20] Next is first reading of Ordinance 2017-2109.
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Parks and Recreation Advisory Board Minutes - March 14, 2017
approvedon consentParks and Recreation Advisory Board minutes from March 14, 2017 were approved as part of the consent agenda.
- motion:Motion to approve the consent agenda, including the Parks and Recreation Advisory Board minutes of March 14, 2017. (passed)
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[00:08:07] Next item is the consent agenda. [00:08:12] Move for approval. [00:08:13] Second. [00:08:14] We have a motion and a second. [00:08:15] All those in favor, please signify by saying aye. [00:08:17] Aye. [00:08:18] Opposed? [00:08:19] The like sign. [00:08:20] Next is first reading of Ordinance 2017-2109.
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Purchases/Payments for City Council Approval
approvedon consentThe consent agenda, including purchases/payments for City Council approval, was moved, seconded, and approved unanimously by voice vote.
- motion:Motion to approve the consent agenda. (passed)
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[00:08:07] Next item is the consent agenda. [00:08:12] Move for approval. [00:08:13] Second. [00:08:14] We have a motion and a second. [00:08:15] All those in favor, please signify by saying aye. [00:08:17] Aye. [00:08:18] Opposed? [00:08:19] The like sign. [00:08:20] Next is first reading of Ordinance 2017-2109.
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First Reading, Ordinance No. 2017-2109: Rezoning - 6571 Circle Boulevard & Ordinance No. 2017-2110: Vacation of a Portion of Central Avenue Right-of-Way
discussedFirst reading of Ordinance 2017-2109 to rezone approximately 2.82 acres at the former First Baptist Church site (6571 Circle Boulevard area) from R2, Downtown, MF14, and right-of-way to PDD/RPD for an 85-unit, three-phase apartment development by People Places, LLC (Frank Starkey), and companion Ordinance 2017-2110 vacating a portion of Central Avenue right-of-way to construct a landscape median. Staff and LDRB recommended approval; residents raised concerns about parking, traffic, speeding, and pace of development, while others spoke in support.
Ord. Ordinance No. 2017-2109; Ordinance No. 2017-2110
- direction:Council held first reading and public hearing on the rezoning and right-of-way vacation ordinances; no final vote at this reading. (none)
5822 Indiana Avenue, New Port Richey, Florida6345 Grand Boulevard6571 Circle BoulevardCentral AvenueFirst Baptist ChurchMyNetworkOne LLCPasco County Public TransitPeople Places, LLCUniversity of Michigan Transportation Research InstituteZimmerman/Volk AssociatesChief BogartFrank StarkeyGreg SmithJennifer MeltonLisa PierceMarioMr. DriscollMr. RiveraRichard MeltonRod WorthamCapital Improvements Plan parking garage projectDowntown Core comprehensive plan amendmentLand Development Review Board (LDRB)Main Street LandingOrdinance No. 2017-2109Ordinance No. 2017-2110PDD planned development districtRPD residential planned development districtResidential market study (500 units / 315 rentals)Sims ParkTransportation Concurrency Exception Area▶ Jump to 8:21 in the videoShow transcriptHide transcript
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[00:08:25] Mr. Driscoll. [00:08:26] Ordinance number 2017-2109, an ordinance rezoning approximately 2.82 acres of property [00:08:32] generally located east of Circle Boulevard, west of Adams Street, [00:08:35] and north and south of Central Avenue, [00:08:38] and located south of Central Avenue and east of Adams Street, [00:08:41] and including 30 feet of vacated Central Avenue right-of-way [00:08:44] located east of Circle Boulevard and west of Adams Street. [00:08:47] From R2 residential district, .743 acres, downtown district, 1.77 acres, [00:08:55] MF14 multi-family residential district, .173 acres, [00:09:00] and right-of-way, .143 acres to PDD planned development district, [00:09:06] RPD residential planned development district subcategory. [00:09:10] Further described herein in Exhibit A, providing development standards in Exhibit B, [00:09:15] and providing an effective date. [00:09:18] Thank you. [00:09:19] This is a public hearing on this ordinance. [00:09:22] We'll open it up for public comment. [00:09:25] Seeing no one come forward, bring it back to Council. [00:09:29] Sorry, come on down. [00:09:38] Jennifer Melton, live on Central Avenue. [00:09:40] Husband Richard out of town, but I have a letter which I'll give to the city clerk. [00:09:44] We all went to the workshop that was provided by Mr. Starkey, [00:09:47] and since we all live on Central Avenue, we do have some concerns. [00:09:50] We have a brief letter here that just outlines some of the key points. [00:09:54] I'm not going to read the whole letter just because of the length of time. [00:09:56] We don't want to hold up all the nice people, but really the first issue is parking. [00:10:01] As we all know, downtown is booming. [00:10:03] We love it, but parking is a huge, huge issue in town. [00:10:08] Living on Central Avenue, I've talked to our wonderful chief of police over here, Mr. Bogart, [00:10:15] about traffic and speeding, and now we have to also worry about the parking issue. [00:10:20] We're taking all these new cars and all these new people coming into town, [00:10:25] but our system is still small. [00:10:27] We have little streets, little alleyways, so parking has become a huge issue. [00:10:31] We'd like to have this looked at before the rezoning is passed. [00:10:38] It was for parking for the apartments, for the residents and guests and events. [00:10:42] Seafood Festival was just here. [00:10:44] The parking lot to the north of Central was packed. [00:10:47] If we build apartments over there, we'll lose that space. [00:10:51] We don't agree with the median. [00:10:55] Although it's cool, it blocks all of our view. [00:10:57] We love to look at Orange Lake. [00:10:59] The alleyways, we feel like more traffic is going to become using alleyways now [00:11:03] because everybody's going to try and get around the roads. [00:11:05] We'd like them paved, if that's going to be the case, and maybe made one way [00:11:08] to just keep traffic moving. [00:11:12] Again, the construction traffic, there's limitations Monday through Friday, 7 to 5. [00:11:17] There's just some light items here, which is very concerning to us [00:11:20] as residents of our great city of New Purity and specifically on Central Avenue. [00:11:26] Thank you very much for bringing those to our attention. [00:11:28] If you'd give that to the city clerk. [00:11:30] I'm sorry. [00:11:32] Mr. Mayor, we do have a staff presentation for you this evening. [00:11:35] I'm sure that the city attorney wanted to advise you this is a quasi-judicial proceeding [00:11:40] and any ex parte communication needs to be disclosed at the present time before the hearing. [00:11:48] Okay. [00:11:50] Having said that, I will go ahead and present. [00:11:54] If we could get the slides. [00:11:55] Thank you. [00:12:00] This is an aerial view of a portion of the downtown, and north is at the top. [00:12:06] This aerial view, Main Street is here, and Adams Street is this piece right here, [00:12:16] and then Central is located here. [00:12:19] The subject property is 2.82 acres, and it is the combined three pieces that you see that are outlined in yellow. [00:12:30] This property is the former site of the First Baptist Church, [00:12:34] and in this aerial you can actually make out the outline of the former buildings that were on the southern piece along Central. [00:12:42] The city's CRA owns the site and entered into a sales agreement last October intending to sell it to People Places, LLC, [00:12:51] and Frank Sturkey, the president of that corporation, has plans to develop it with residential multifamily dwellings. [00:13:00] So this is a rezoning, and the map shows the existing zoning on the site. [00:13:05] The northern piece is currently zoned R2 District, which allows single family dwellings. [00:13:11] The southern piece is zoned Downtown District, which allows a multitude of uses, [00:13:17] and the eastern piece is zoned MF14 District, and the proposal is to rezone the property to the planned development district. [00:13:28] The PDD provides an alternative method of land development, [00:13:31] which does help facilitate a number of the comp plan goals, objectives, and policies. [00:13:37] It is design-driven, and that's why you have a copy of the site plan in your packet, [00:13:42] because a site plan approval is required with this rezoning application, and it also allows for design flexibility. [00:13:50] The proposal also includes the zoning of a portion of the Central Avenue right-of-way, [00:13:56] which is currently unzoned and is to be vacated. [00:14:02] So this is a view of what the site may look like when it's developed, [00:14:06] and it's proposed to be done in three phases for a total of 85 apartment units. [00:14:13] The first phase would be on the north side of Central Avenue with 23 units. [00:14:19] Phase two would be 59 units on the south side of Central, [00:14:23] and then the southeast corner of Central and Adams would house three more units. [00:14:32] So this is a more close-up version of phases one and two. [00:14:37] The plan features buildings that are oriented towards the street, [00:14:41] and it puts the parking behind the buildings out of sight. [00:14:44] The sidewalks will continue around each phase, [00:14:47] and there is a pedestrian way through phase two, [00:14:55] which would connect pedestrians from Florida and... [00:15:00] Florida Avenue and Adams to Circle Boulevard. [00:15:07] The rezoning includes the very detailed development standards. [00:15:10] They're in exhibit B of the ordinance. [00:15:13] They address density, setback, architecture, building materials, lighting. [00:15:18] The Land Development Review Board held a public hearing to discuss the ordinance and recommended [00:15:24] approval at its April 20th meeting. [00:15:27] There were comments from several residents that spoke, and some of those are here tonight, [00:15:33] and the comments were primarily based on parking, traffic, and speeding. [00:15:39] In this case, the developer is proposing a parking standard of one space per unit. [00:15:47] He's proposing to construct more than one space with 97 on site, 85 would be required [00:15:55] based on one space per unit. [00:15:57] He's also constructing 32 on street spaces. [00:16:02] He doesn't get credit for those in terms of his parking calculation, because they will [00:16:06] be available on a first come, first serve basis, but there is a net gain of on street [00:16:12] parking with this development. [00:16:14] The plan is to market this to millennials and empty nesters based on current trends [00:16:22] that show that both of those are driving less than maybe the rest of us. [00:16:30] Millennials are those that were born between 1977 and 1994, and then the empty nesters [00:16:36] are the folks that are parents of children who have left the home. [00:16:42] There was a study done from the University of Michigan Transportation Research Institute [00:16:46] that supports this concept. [00:16:49] It identified a decrease over the past several decades in the number of people who have been [00:16:54] getting driver's licenses. [00:16:56] According to the study, only 69% of 19-year-olds had a driver's license in 2014, and that's [00:17:03] compared with almost 90% of those who had licenses in 1983. [00:17:10] The percentage of 20-somethings with driver's licenses has also fallen over the past 30 [00:17:15] years by 13%, according to the study, and fewer Americans in their 30s and 40s now have [00:17:21] driver's licenses. [00:17:23] Ultimately, we think that not having enough parking will impact the developer's ability [00:17:30] to rent the units, but he understands that this concept is not for everyone, so if you're [00:17:37] a renter that needs more than one parking space, then perhaps this is not the right [00:17:42] location for you. [00:17:46] Residents at the LDRB meeting were also concerned about where spectators would park during special [00:17:51] events, as was mentioned by the last speaker. [00:17:55] We think the city will need to be very strategic about planning for future events, perhaps [00:18:02] looking at some alternatives, because we understand that we will be displacing those folks that [00:18:07] currently enjoy the paved lot, as well as the unpaved lot. [00:18:12] So by way of example, the city certainly could look into partnering with commercial property [00:18:18] owners and make available remote parking with potential use of shuttles. [00:18:25] Excuse me, Ms. Pierce, I'm sorry, could you just answer a quick question, because I might [00:18:30] lose track of that. [00:18:32] So the parking lot that is unpaved, not the parking lot, the land that is unpaved, difficult [00:18:37] to know a number, but the parking that is paved, what kind of numbers are we displacing [00:18:42] in terms of cars? [00:18:43] That I don't know. [00:18:44] I don't know. [00:18:45] Thank you. [00:18:46] I wasn't prepared for that. [00:18:47] I can provide it to you another time. [00:18:48] Okay, no problem. [00:18:49] The other thing I wanted to mention about parking is that the city is planning for a [00:18:54] parking garage downtown, and it has been identified as a key project in the current capital and [00:19:01] improvements plan, and we are in the site acquisition phase, if you will, and if funding [00:19:11] is approved through this year's budget, we'll be hopefully looking at engineering in the [00:19:14] next fiscal year. [00:19:17] In terms of traffic, based on the number of units that are being proposed, there was no [00:19:23] traffic study required for this proposal. [00:19:28] The site is also located in what we call our transportation concurrency exception area, [00:19:34] which recognizes that it will develop with more intensity than the rest of the city, [00:19:40] and expects that, because of that, that residents will rely on some other modes of transportation, [00:19:47] including buses, walking, and cycling, and this site is within a block of the Pasco County [00:19:55] public transit bus route. [00:19:59] We also did hear from residents about speeding, and in a meeting that I had with both Mr. [00:20:06] Rivera and Chief Bogart, we discussed their efforts to deal with the issue, and Mr. Rivera [00:20:13] said that there was a traffic and speed study that was conducted about a year ago that showed [00:20:19] out of 3,800 cars that were traveling on Central, the average speed was between 28 and 29 miles [00:20:26] per hour. [00:20:27] The posted speed is 25. [00:20:30] From an engineering perspective, it would not be classified as speeding. [00:20:36] Chief Bogart has had the occasion to set up a speed reader for several weeks on different [00:20:43] occasions and has posted officers on the street, and Public Works has committed to [00:20:50] continue to provide the police department with identifying peak times so they can provide [00:20:57] directive enforcement in the future. [00:21:01] The other thing I wanted to mention about speeding is, with the addition of the landscape [00:21:06] median that's along the center of Central Avenue, that is a way of calming traffic, [00:21:13] and in the current capital improvements plan, there is a plan to do that continued streetscaping [00:21:23] with the median between Adams Street and Madison, which does not show up on the screen, but [00:21:29] it would be that stretch of Central which now currently experiences the speeding, so [00:21:36] we hope that that expanded landscape median would do similar traffic calming in the future. [00:21:42] So Ms. Pierce, I was at the LDRB meeting and Mr. Melton was actually here, and I've heard [00:21:48] him say this more than once, that he doesn't want the medians to go all the way up Central [00:21:54] Avenue. [00:21:55] No one addressed it at that meeting. [00:21:56] From every plan that I've seen, it only goes to Adams, correct? [00:21:59] It's just at the end of Central, because that's Adams right there? [00:22:02] So yes, I'm going to find a pointer here really quickly. [00:22:05] So in this slide, I'm going to point to the northern slide, this is the only landscape [00:22:11] median that is being discussed as part of this rezoning. [00:22:15] What I was just mentioning as part of your capital improvement plan is to extend that [00:22:19] median to the east all the way to Madison, where we still have either perceived or real [00:22:26] speeding along Central Avenue, because it is a very wide right of way. [00:22:31] I understand, but that's separate from this development, correct? [00:22:33] Correct, that's right. [00:22:34] Okay, thank you. [00:22:35] And then, continuing east on that road, the next portion of Central is already got the [00:22:42] landscaping in that, is that correct? [00:22:44] East of Madison, there is already a landscape median, correct? [00:22:48] East to Madison, right, thank you. [00:22:53] So there's some ground slides to show you, in case you're not familiar with the property, [00:22:58] which is highly unlikely, but nonetheless, this is a view of where Phase 1 would be constructed. [00:23:03] This is looking northwest from Adams and Central. [00:23:08] This is a view of Phase 2, looking northwest from Adams. [00:23:13] And this is a view of the final phase, Phase 3, looking northeast from Adams Street. [00:23:21] The design of the buildings is intended to be a mansion style. [00:23:27] They will all feature entrances along the street frontages. [00:23:32] This building type would have one-bedroom units. [00:23:37] Again, they're all similar, yet different. [00:23:41] This is a different style building, and this one shows that there would be some balconies [00:23:47] for this style. [00:23:48] This one would have one and two-bedroom units. [00:23:52] And then this shows what it might look like at the intersection of Central and Circle, [00:23:59] where there will be a taller tower structure to define the intersection. [00:24:07] This one will have two-bedroom units. [00:24:09] So the goal is not to have a cookie-cutter design, but to have coordinated architecture, [00:24:14] but not exactly the same. [00:24:18] This is a view looking to the west along Central Avenue. [00:24:23] And it says before, because that's the current situation we have right out there, you can [00:24:27] see it's a very wide right-of-way. [00:24:30] It's 80 feet right now. [00:24:32] It's pretty wide, given the urban context of its location in the downtown. [00:24:38] The plan is to vacate the northern 15 feet of that right-of-way, as well as the southern [00:24:44] 15 feet of that right-of-way, and construct a landscape median down the middle with some [00:24:54] computer-generated design. [00:24:56] This is what it may look like when it's said and done. [00:24:58] You can see the buildings would be situated close to the street. [00:25:03] The median down the center of it will enhance an otherwise expansive asphalt space, and [00:25:10] will improve the key vista, or view, into the park. [00:25:18] And this is a view looking south on Circle Boulevard, currently from the Phase I development. [00:25:25] And with the development proposal, this is what it might look like in its after case. [00:25:36] It's important to remember that the city's been looking to have this site develop since [00:25:41] it purchased the property back in 2005. [00:25:44] The city amended the comprehensive plan to increase density. [00:25:50] We actually created a new downtown core for this reason in particular. [00:25:56] We hired a consultant a couple years ago to prepare a residential market study. [00:26:02] And that study calls for 500 new residential units in the downtown core. [00:26:08] And of that 500, 315 were slated to be rentals. [00:26:13] And we also have several goals, objectives, and policies in the comp plan which support [00:26:20] this type of residential development. [00:26:24] As I mentioned before, the LBRB did recommend approval of this rezoning application. [00:26:28] And they did so with the condition that there be a unity of title completed in order to [00:26:33] kind of tie all the phases together. [00:26:37] The rezoning does meet the concurrency requirements. [00:26:41] It's consistent with the policies of the comp plan. [00:26:44] And those include using the plan development district, creating more increased density [00:26:50] in the downtown core, promoting a mixture of housing types, and constructing a landscape [00:26:56] median to calm traffic. [00:26:59] So tonight before you are two ordinances. [00:27:02] One is the rezoning ordinance 2017-2109. [00:27:07] And the other one is the companion vacation request for the right of way along Central [00:27:13] 2017-2110. [00:27:16] Thank you. [00:27:17] We'll vote on each of these separately. [00:27:18] But I will accept public comment on both if anyone else wishes to address counsel. [00:27:27] Mr. Smith, if you'd give us your name and address for the record. [00:27:32] Good evening, everyone. [00:27:39] I'm Greg Smith from 5822 Indiana Avenue, New Port Richey, Florida. [00:27:45] And I really appreciate all the effort that has been put into this project. [00:27:49] But I do have some real concerns. [00:27:53] And my biggest thing is, what is the rush? [00:27:57] And why more apartments? [00:27:58] That's sort of the theme. [00:28:00] So should we not stand still for a little bit and let the Main Street landings get built [00:28:07] first? [00:28:08] Get them 50% filled and see if that need is still there before we progress into another [00:28:13] project that could possibly take 13 years? [00:28:17] Who knows? [00:28:18] This one's landings has taken 13 years and isn't completed yet. [00:28:23] And no one even has talked about the new three-story apartment building being built on Washington. [00:28:30] There's more apartments that are going to be taken after that same market that we're [00:28:33] looking to try to get on this new project. [00:28:36] So we have to look at those things. [00:28:37] That's going to be open this fall. [00:28:39] And also in the report that was put together that Lisa mentioned by Zimmerman and Folk [00:28:45] was done in 2015, those numbers reflect mainly Tampa, some Palm Harbor, and West Chase. [00:28:54] I could find nothing in New Port Richey except out in the farther parts of the county, mainly [00:29:00] the east side, that even come close to the $1,100 that Mr. Starkey told us will be a [00:29:06] one-bedroom apartment in New Port Richey. [00:29:08] I find that very hard to find people to fill that in New Port Richey. [00:29:13] Also some of my concerns are even what's going on with Pasco County and New Port Richey. [00:29:19] And I know Mario works hard to bring us business, but we're not seeing any growth here in the [00:29:23] business side of the world except for the VA project that we're all concerned about. [00:29:27] There's no businesses to give these people jobs to stay in these apartments at these [00:29:31] type of rates. [00:29:33] In fact, we've actually lost a lot of things in State Route 54, Sprawl even took our airport [00:29:40] that helped the people that were in the industrial park out there. [00:29:45] We still have so many basics we need to take care of, like we still have dirt alleys and [00:29:49] sidewalks that don't connect and don't even exist in many places in our community. [00:29:54] So why do we have such a rush to get this done so quickly when we have so much that [00:29:58] isn't done? [00:30:00] Also, even the streetlights, you know I was very involved in showing everyone the trouble [00:30:05] with the streetlights. [00:30:06] And we still have dark areas. [00:30:07] We have alleys with no lighting. [00:30:09] We have in the streets with no lighting. [00:30:10] I see it every day. [00:30:11] I'm going to start on that again because we still have problems. [00:30:14] Even some of our new LEDs have burned out. [00:30:17] And the neighborhoods still have blighted neighborhoods with old junk rentals and rental [00:30:22] houses and problems in those too to deal with. [00:30:25] But the most important thing is we haven't really looked at the history. [00:30:29] And I was told this by someone you all know very well as an engineer in town that in the [00:30:33] 50s and 60s he told me one of the biggest mistakes they did was build apartments in [00:30:38] residential areas. [00:30:40] Exactly what we're marching to do here and talk about. [00:30:43] So I hope you see that I did a lot of work and showed you a lot of numbers. [00:30:46] I went and looked at a lot of rental property and statistics about our area. [00:30:51] And I just hope you take that in mind before you jump and rush to do this again. [00:30:55] So I'm going to end as I started. [00:30:58] Why do we have to rush? [00:30:59] Thank you very much for your time. [00:31:00] Thank you Mr. Smith. [00:31:02] Anyone else? [00:31:13] Hi, my name is Rod Wortham, owner of MyNetworkOne LLC. [00:31:17] We're a new business at 6345 Grand Boulevard. [00:31:20] And I want to speak on behalf of Mr. Starkey. [00:31:22] I think the project is great for the city. [00:31:25] I think that the type of apartments that will draw the millennials here. [00:31:30] For us, we're a technology company. [00:31:33] And we know that the people that work for us want to live in those types of apartments. [00:31:38] Both there and both on Main Street Landing. [00:31:41] They want to live in places where they can actually walk to work. [00:31:44] And then support the other businesses that are downtown. [00:31:47] I've heard some talk about the traffic problems and I'm sure that, and parking, I'm sure that [00:31:52] we can work those out, the city can work those things out. [00:31:55] But I think the city of New Port Richey needs to grow. [00:31:57] And I think that's a big step towards that. [00:32:00] The more of those people that live there, the more money they're going to spend in the [00:32:03] downtown area. [00:32:04] The more that the residents that live in those types that have the dispendable income will [00:32:08] attract more businesses here. [00:32:11] I grew up outside of St. Louis, Missouri. [00:32:14] And one of the most beautiful skylines across the river. [00:32:17] And I see that skyline here, I mean we have something special across from Sims Park and [00:32:21] I think that we need to take advantage of that. [00:32:23] I applaud the city for what they've done at the park and the revamping because it is gorgeous. [00:32:28] I sit there every day and I see how that's used. [00:32:30] But I also see what happened when I was a young adult in this space across the river [00:32:36] from St. Louis, which is one of the most beautiful skylines in this country. [00:32:42] And they passed on actually developing that because people were fighting it. [00:32:47] And that didn't stop the development, the development just moved further down the river [00:32:50] to St. Charles, Missouri. [00:32:52] You can go to East St. Louis, Illinois today, it's a war zone. [00:32:56] Nobody will do business there, nobody wants to live there. [00:32:58] And I just felt like that they missed it. [00:33:00] I was there, I lived apart, my father was a pastor in that community. [00:33:04] And we didn't take advantage of that. [00:33:06] I think both of these projects that are going on are great for the city, it will allow us [00:33:09] to grow. [00:33:10] And I think it will bring people in here. [00:33:13] I think we have people now that travel from Tampa, that travel from Zephyr Hills, that [00:33:17] if these apartments were built here, they would live there. [00:33:20] I can guarantee you that, we've already talked about it. [00:33:23] And I just think it's great for the city. [00:33:25] I hope that the city moves forward with that. [00:33:28] The apartments are gorgeous. [00:33:30] And that's all I have, thank you. [00:33:32] Thank you. [00:33:33] Anyone else? [00:33:36] Dale Webb, 5647 Kentucky Avenue. [00:33:51] Little concerned about this, we're talking about one parking space per unit. [00:33:55] I mean, who are we kidding with this? [00:33:59] This is in the 50s, there's not one car per household. [00:34:03] Part of the problem we've had with our parking in the city and having people having to build [00:34:07] driveways was because these houses were built in the 50s where people had one car. [00:34:16] So we've had talk of having to build a parking garage. [00:34:21] This is certainly going to expedite that problem. [00:34:27] Right now, behind Johnny Gritz, where this proposed project is, there are people stuck [00:34:32] every day behind there, parking in that dirt for lack of parking. [00:34:37] I don't know if anybody else has seen that, but I've pulled out numerous people. [00:34:42] Twice a week, I pull people out over there. [00:34:45] So this going by one space per unit just doesn't, it don't fly with me. [00:34:49] I mean, the builders should be responsible for more parking than that, not us as the [00:34:54] taxpayers. [00:34:56] Thank you. [00:34:57] Thank you, Mr. Webb. [00:35:00] Thank you. [00:35:11] Mary Moran, 5738 Kentucky Avenue. [00:35:15] I live close to this area, and I am on the LDRB. [00:35:21] My biggest concern and my biggest heartache over this project is I moved here because [00:35:29] it was small town feeling. [00:35:32] I'm not opposed to something like nice little townhomes, two-story maybe going in there [00:35:39] with enough parking, with enough architecture, with enough aesthetics that it looks nice, [00:35:45] not like a box. [00:35:47] That's just starters. [00:35:48] The traffic is a major concern for me. [00:35:51] The parking, who the heck wants to live on Central and have your nice house sitting on [00:35:55] your front porch with cars and cars of people, and you can't tell me that they'll walk and [00:36:00] take the buses. [00:36:01] There is no place to walk in New Port Richey. [00:36:04] It's the cart before the horse. [00:36:06] Yes, we would love to have a town that has a lot of business where people can walk to [00:36:12] work, but we don't have that right now. [00:36:14] We have a major apartment building that's not even finished, so we don't even know how [00:36:21] many of those apartments are going to be rented. [00:36:23] The city of New Port Richey in the past few years, and I've been here for 20 years, in [00:36:28] the past few years ever since the real estate depression, has turned into a city of rentals. [00:36:34] There's a major loss of pride for your own homes, and I just don't see more rentals adding [00:36:42] pride and small hometown feeling to the city that most of us love. [00:36:48] And that's it. [00:36:49] Thank you, Mr. Moran. [00:36:56] Anyone else? [00:36:57] Mr. Starkey, do you wish to say anything? [00:37:07] Thank you. [00:37:08] Frank Starkey, 5742 Main Street is my business location. [00:37:13] I appreciate the good work on the part of Ms. Fierce and Mr. Mettler and Robert Rivera [00:37:20] and the rest of the staff and the DRC in working through this. [00:37:24] We've had very good collaboration and hammered through a lot of big issues in a good way, [00:37:33] and I really appreciate the work, especially on some of the pieces that Lisa and Chris [00:37:42] were able to pull together. [00:37:43] I'll address a couple of the items that have come up. [00:37:47] With regard to parking, and I appreciate the study that she cited, we're familiar with [00:37:57] a number of those that we've seen over the last several years. [00:38:00] Do I need a time limit? [00:38:03] I'm new at this. [00:38:04] I was just checking. [00:38:05] Since you're the developer, you've got a little extra. [00:38:09] We're providing above 1.1 spaces per unit on site. [00:38:15] We're then also creating some additional on-street spaces, as well as formalizing the on-street [00:38:24] parking spaces and adding one or two on central. [00:38:27] Then there's also the parking spaces along Circle. [00:38:33] The magic of on-street spaces versus... [00:38:37] We could build spaces until the cows come home off-site, but they don't benefit the whole town. [00:38:44] With regard to the situation behind Johnny Grits in particular, we're actually building... [00:38:53] I forget the number off the top of my head. [00:38:55] Six or eight? [00:38:56] Maybe it's six spaces along that, which is about the number of cars that I typically see there. [00:39:02] They'll actually be paved parallel spaces on Florida Avenue that'll be open to the public. [00:39:11] What's nice about it is that as residents leave in the morning to go to work, if they happen to be parked there, [00:39:18] then that opens up that space to a restaurant user during the day or an office user. [00:39:25] Those actually become used more efficiently throughout the day. [00:39:31] When you count just the spaces that are in front of this site, just the way all residents mostly think of the spaces [00:39:43] on the street right in front of their house as kind of theirs, even though they're open to the public. [00:39:47] If we count those, in addition to these, we're at more like one and three-quarters spaces per apartment, [00:39:54] which is the upper end of what typical suburban apartment developers will tell you they need for all of their parking. [00:40:00] For apartments that have a much higher mix of three-bedroom apartments than two-bedroom apartments, [00:40:07] we're mostly one-bedrooms and two-bedrooms aimed more at couples and singles than at families. [00:40:16] It's a different apartment renter makeup. [00:40:22] Another contrast is there was a reference to the new apartments that are going up on Washington Avenue. [00:40:30] I'm not very familiar with that, but I did see a sign on it that says new affordable apartments. [00:40:37] I don't know if that's a tax credit project or something, [00:40:41] but my guess is that it's positioned to meet an affordable market, which is good. [00:40:48] That's not affordable with a capital A, meaning defined as people within certain income brackets. [00:40:55] Ours is targeting the market that was identified in the Zimmerman-Volk study, [00:41:01] which are households that have a household income of $50,000 or more, and that's what supports that $1,100. [00:41:08] If ZVA didn't say that there was a market for that, we wouldn't be believing it. [00:41:13] But I'm familiar with enough of ZVA's studies, Zimmerman-Volk and Laurie Volk, who spoke to you all a couple years ago. [00:41:21] I'm familiar with enough studies of theirs where the problem has been that they've done studies in places that nobody believed in, [00:41:33] and once they caught fire, then the developers had a hard time keeping the prices as low as they were projecting, [00:41:43] as opposed to the problem being getting up to them. [00:41:46] I know a lot of people have expressed concern that, well, nobody's going to show up to rent these expensive fancy apartments, [00:41:52] and they're going to turn into low-income housing, or we're just going to drop the rents and let the whole thing go to hell. [00:42:00] That's just not at all what we have any intent of doing, [00:42:06] and I hope that my track record speaks for itself in delivering what I set out to do. [00:42:13] So I don't think that 12 years is a hurry. [00:42:19] This has been a property that the city has been sitting on, hoping, as I understand it, [00:42:25] bought it specifically to redevelop in order to jumpstart the redevelopment of downtown and residential. [00:42:34] It's a different world now than it was in 2005 when the city bought the property, [00:42:38] and the economic forces and where the market is are just different. [00:42:44] These days it's rental, which is not a compromise, [00:42:48] and it's not the same thing as scattered duplexes and triplexes in single-family neighborhoods, [00:42:56] which I believe is what the engineer was referring to, [00:43:00] and it's not the same thing as individually-owned properties like that that are not professionally managed. [00:43:11] This is professionally managed at a much larger scale, [00:43:13] where all of the economic incentives are really aligned to keeping the best product available, [00:43:22] as opposed to the economic incentives that we see with a lot of the duplexes and triplexes, [00:43:30] where there's actually an incentive to be a slumlord. [00:43:34] With this kind of property, the incentive is the exact opposite. [00:43:39] I believe that if you look at the underlying economic fundamentals and see where that's pushing you, [00:43:48] that's where you get more comforting. [00:43:53] The final thing is with regard to the overall renaissance of the city. [00:43:59] It's well-known among developers, particularly in redeveloping areas as well as in new suburban development, [00:44:10] that rooftops lead. [00:44:12] Commercial, whether it's office spaces, office uses, or retail, [00:44:18] cannot lead into a new place where there's not an existing market. [00:44:23] However, residential will go into a new place because early residents can drive [00:44:29] or can get to the places where the retail and the offices are. [00:44:35] Once those residences are there, then the retail and the offices will follow. [00:44:40] Residential is what leads the renaissance of a place. [00:44:46] In this case, that's what we're about. [00:44:50] As you all know, myself and my partners on this are also involved. [00:45:00] And we've bought the 5800 Main Street building to help work at both ends of that spectrum. [00:45:11] And we're hopeful, we're confident that bringing new residential and new retail down, [00:45:18] refreshened retail to downtown at the same time will be helpful and that will start really [00:45:23] priming the pump for additional investment by others to come in to town with additional [00:45:29] businesses. [00:45:30] So we think that there's, and incidentally we've bought one of those cruddy duplexes [00:45:35] and we fixed it up, as I was saying during the LDRB meeting, we've put more money into [00:45:40] it than is reasonable in order to make that into a nice duplex and really finish off what [00:45:50] is otherwise a really nice street. [00:45:52] I think John Hacks here, he lives on there, he has a beautiful house, takes great care [00:45:56] of it, has a lot of pride in it. [00:45:58] There was one cruddy eyesore on that street. [00:46:01] A little bit off topic, but I'm wanting to just demonstrate that we've got a commitment [00:46:06] to the whole mechanisms of helping New Port Richey get itself off the ground. [00:46:15] Thank you. [00:46:16] Mr. Starkey, I don't know if you or perhaps Mary would be the right one to answer, this [00:46:20] study that you referred to, how many of these higher end apartments did it indicate a need [00:46:29] for? [00:46:30] 315 rentals over 5 years, of which 2 years are already gone and we haven't built one. [00:46:39] So that main street landing is 80 or 90 and we're 85, so even with these two projects [00:46:47] which seem enormous, they're not even going to touch half of that market potential. [00:46:55] Moreover, the city had a retail gap analysis done, which also showed a strong potential [00:47:06] for a retail market in downtown, but those things have to happen together, the residential [00:47:12] and the retail. [00:47:13] Any other questions? [00:47:14] Mr. Starkey? [00:47:15] Go ahead. [00:47:16] Thank you. [00:47:17] Mr. Starkey, so what is your, I've got actually 3 questions. [00:47:23] So what is your timeline on, because it was phase 1, phase 2, phase 3, what is your timeline [00:47:28] for start up and finish and are you just the builder of this project and you move on or [00:47:35] what is the overall, how are you going to rent it or lease it or whatever? [00:47:39] We are building it to hold long term. [00:47:44] From an investment standpoint, New Port Richey is a long term play. [00:47:49] It wouldn't make sense for us to, from an investment standpoint, it wouldn't make sense [00:47:53] for us to build this and think that we were going to flip it in any short time frame and [00:47:57] get our money out of it. [00:47:59] However, we also are, this is personal investment money for us and our goal is to set up an [00:48:08] income property for our own portfolio. [00:48:12] So our goal is to hold it long term. [00:48:15] To your first question. [00:48:16] Actually, and thank you for that information because that's important. [00:48:19] It could have been a third question, but by timeline I meant in building and the construction [00:48:24] piece of it. [00:48:25] Yeah. [00:48:26] The timeline is as soon as we can get it going with phase 1, which is 23 apartments on the [00:48:34] north side of Central Avenue. [00:48:36] The reason for that fairly small phase 1 is so that we have an opportunity to test the [00:48:41] market, get a good introduction to it, a good feel for it, and make any adjustments that [00:48:47] we need in phase 2. [00:48:49] So if we find that, oh my gosh, that kitchen just needs, the sink just needs to be moved [00:48:56] over and it just needs to be reconfigured or something like that, we can make those [00:49:01] adjustments in phase 2. [00:49:03] So we're stepping cautiously and conservatively into the process. [00:49:08] We also want to get a phase that's a reasonable investment without getting too overextended [00:49:16] if something dreadful should happen to the market, as we all know can happen, so we don't [00:49:21] end up with a partially completed project. [00:49:24] Phase 2 would follow, so phase 1 timing, as soon as we can close on the property, we have, [00:49:32] we've received our SWFMUD permit, we've received our, just this week, at the end of last week, [00:49:40] we've received our school concurrency letter of determination, we're concurring, and with [00:49:46] this we've basically got all of our overall site development permits in place and we can [00:49:51] move forward. [00:49:52] Architecturally, we're at 90% construction drawings, our contractor is pricing out everything [00:49:59] right now, once he gets the pricing back to us, we'll get a final round of comments [00:50:04] to the architect to finish up the permit set, which we hope to be done within a month, so [00:50:10] we can get construction going this summer. [00:50:13] On phase 1, phase 2, our goal is to see how phase 1 goes, we will most likely put it up [00:50:21] for pre-leasing, if it pre-leases well and strong, then we would roll into phase 2 quickly. [00:50:28] If it's not so fast, then we'll sit on phase 2 until it makes sense, and if, heaven forbid, [00:50:36] it's just a flat-out disaster, then we've got to rethink phase 2, but it'd be easier [00:50:42] to rethink it when it's a piece of raw ground than when it's got half-built buildings on [00:50:46] it, I think we could probably all agree on that. [00:50:49] And your phase 3, if I'm remembering correctly, it's 3? [00:50:53] Yeah. [00:50:54] Okay. [00:50:56] Because it's a lot type that is more, and this is where Frank the urbanist comes out, [00:51:03] and architect, it's a lot type that's more like the rest of Central Avenue, which are [00:51:09] single-family lots, I didn't think it was appropriate to just think of it as another [00:51:16] apartment building, but to think of it as more of a mansion, smaller scale, they're [00:51:24] all mansion apartment buildings, but they are kind of long and skinny. [00:51:29] The other thing is the number of units that are still available, that are available for [00:51:35] phase 3, will depend on if there are any adjustments made in phase 2. [00:51:39] So, for example, if we make some adjustment that pushes us to more two-bedroom, this is [00:51:45] a hypothetical, but if something, if the market tells us that we need more two-bedrooms than [00:51:51] one-bedrooms, and that squeezes out some extra units, then we might have four units [00:51:57] that go to phase 3 instead of three, or conversely, if we go to one-bedrooms and we can fit more [00:52:03] in, keeping the ratios of parking and everything the same, then we might have only one or two [00:52:10] units on phase 3. [00:52:12] So we're just kind of leaving that as our pressure valve release, so to speak, and we'll [00:52:18] develop the architecture for that at the time, and we'll have to bring that into the [00:52:25] city for site plan review. [00:52:27] We do have development standards and setbacks set for that that are like the rest of the [00:52:33] street. [00:52:34] So we've got those set at this point, and a designation that parking has to enter off [00:52:39] of the alley from that and not from Adams or Central. [00:52:42] Thank you, and I just have one final question. [00:52:44] So the design of the apartments, those entryways that you see from the street, that enters [00:52:49] into an apartment, or is that into a vestibule that then opens up onto doors? [00:52:53] It's into a central hallway that also has an entrance on the back parking lot side, [00:53:01] and then stairs. [00:53:02] It's a stair hallway, so there's stairs that go up one side and then hallways, so you can [00:53:05] walk all the way through the building there. [00:53:07] They are gated, they'll have a prox card, a prox fob entry for each, so the gating is [00:53:17] at the entrance to the buildings themselves, and then those stairs go up, and each of those [00:53:22] staircases serves six apartments, typically, three on each side. [00:53:27] Basically a Cracker-style dog truck between them. [00:53:31] Exactly. [00:53:32] And not townhouse, where it's, so the apartment is all on the floor, second floor, third floor. [00:53:38] How's Mr. Starkey? [00:53:39] Did you have anything to add? [00:53:42] Just, let me make this clear, I'm sure everyone knows this, but Mr. Starkey and I are in no [00:53:46] way related. [00:53:47] I've known him for a long time, but we have no relation, I have no interest in this project [00:53:50] other than wanting New Port Richey to prosper. [00:53:54] Can you tell us all why you're so confident in the Zimrin-Munvo study? [00:53:59] Because I've seen their studies come to fruition. [00:54:02] Sorry? [00:54:03] You've seen their studies come to fruition? [00:54:05] Yes. [00:54:06] Yeah. [00:54:07] All over the country and in all sizes of places. [00:54:12] It's a husband and wife firm, Todd Zimmerman and Laurie Volk. [00:54:17] Laurie really developed a methodology for doing studies that looks at future potential [00:54:24] for a market as opposed to current or past demand and supply and demand analysis. [00:54:32] If you do a conventional, which is the way conventional market studies are done, a conventional [00:54:36] market study using a supply and demand analysis for New Port Richey would show zero demand [00:54:43] because there is zero supply of new construction. [00:54:46] So it's a rear view mirror look at the market. [00:54:51] HERD methodology looks at potential because it looks at fundamental drivers in the demographics [00:54:59] of a place, economics, jobs, cultural demographic trends. [00:55:08] It's a much more nuanced and particular way of looking at markets. [00:55:15] This methodology she uses in in-town redevelopment locations like New Port Richey. [00:55:24] She's done these studies in places that now are cool, but when she did the studies they [00:55:30] just didn't have it going on and were kind of down and out places. [00:55:35] So it's not like she just only works in places that are, you know, she doesn't just work [00:55:38] in Brooklyn in 2014 when it's already done. [00:55:43] She's worked in small towns all over the country. [00:55:46] Her husband, Todd, uses the same methodology for market studies in new traditional neighborhood [00:55:53] developments such as Longleaf or, I don't know, there's not any new ones around in this [00:56:01] area. [00:56:02] So he didn't do the study for Longleaf, but they do that same methodology where you're [00:56:08] looking at what would sell if it was available. [00:56:12] And interestingly, when they do the studies for places like a new traditional neighborhood [00:56:17] development, they actually look at the nearby traditional towns and look at what sells and [00:56:21] what rents in those places. [00:56:22] So it's safe to say you're not just going on a hunch here with your own money. [00:56:26] Right. [00:56:27] Right. [00:56:28] And I think that the problem we've had as a city for so long is Frank's a different [00:56:33] type of investor in my opinion. [00:56:35] He and his investors are putting their own money up on this. [00:56:37] They're not borrowing money from the bank. [00:56:38] They're putting their hard-earned money. [00:56:40] We are borrowing money from the bank, but we're putting up our own equity. [00:56:44] Equity, okay. [00:56:45] So instead of just waiting to see what the market's going to do, they're creating the [00:56:49] market. [00:56:50] And that's what I admire about them. [00:56:52] They're putting a ton of money into the building they bought on Main Street. [00:56:55] He has a vision for downtown. [00:56:56] He's a great partner in my opinion, as are people, places, your company with the city [00:57:02] of New Port Richey. [00:57:03] This is, in my opinion, this is what we've been waiting for. [00:57:05] I understand this is a big deal. [00:57:07] I understand that people not into, many of which are my friends, have apprehensions. [00:57:11] I had apprehensions at first. [00:57:13] You run this by my dad. [00:57:14] He told me it was the dumbest thing he's ever heard of. [00:57:17] A lot of the older New Port Richey residents that I speak to have the same reaction. [00:57:23] It's safe to say that New Port Richey residents as a whole do not adapt well to change. [00:57:29] I don't, I have a hard time with it myself. [00:57:30] Humans. [00:57:31] Humans. [00:57:32] Humans. [00:57:33] But especially New Port Richey residents from the ones that I work with when we're trying [00:57:37] to introduce new ideas. [00:57:38] But then after it's done, the things we've been doing up on council, in my opinion, the [00:57:42] last few years, and this kind of reminds me when we were having the Sims Park discussions [00:57:46] and we talked about shutting down Grand Boulevard and people were saying, are you crazy? [00:57:52] Why would you do such a thing? [00:57:53] Why would you make Orange Lake, the Circle Boulevard, one lane? [00:57:56] Why do we have to accompany the Orange Lake into the park? [00:58:01] But after it's done, everyone was so, so very, very pleased. [00:58:05] I have a strong feeling, I am in support of this project. [00:58:08] Anyone that's spoken to me, I've made that clear. [00:58:13] Like you said, I don't think, I know it's going on at the same time as Main Street Landings [00:58:17] is going on, but I think that's, a lot of it has to do with that Zimmerman-Volk study. [00:58:21] I'm sure the investor, Dr. McGurn, saw that study as well and determined it was the right [00:58:26] time to proceed with that. [00:58:28] And like you said, you combine the number of units, we're still not even barely half [00:58:31] of what they say it calls for. [00:58:33] And this is a very, very good company, Zimmerman-Volk, I mean, like you said, they've done projects [00:58:39] all throughout the nation. [00:58:41] And I know this is what you do for a living, new urbanization, so to me, thank you. [00:58:45] Thank you for putting your money in New Port Richey and for having this vision and working [00:58:49] with the city in such a positive fashion. [00:58:52] Three stories, it may look like a lot at first, but I love the design, I actually like this [00:58:56] design more than the Mediterranean style design you were first talking about. [00:58:59] I think there's plenty of room for that in other parts of the city, but why did you go [00:59:04] with this? [00:59:05] I'm on your website right now, it says, a nod to a classic southern architecture. [00:59:08] Why did you veer off from the Mediterranean to this style? [00:59:11] The Mediterranean is predicated on masonry construction to really look authentic. [00:59:19] When you put stucco on, because Mediterranean architecture is a stucco style, when you put [00:59:28] stucco on frame A, well, number one, you're asking for water infiltration problems. [00:59:34] I have a developer friend, colleague, who swears up and down that, oh, everything's [00:59:40] better now, you can put stucco on frame and not worry about it and sleep well at night. [00:59:45] I'm not quite there, and my architect flat set, I'm just not going to do it. [00:59:50] Because we changed the construction type from all masonry to masonry ground floor and wood [00:59:57] frame above, wood siding. [01:00:00] wood frame is the more responsible material to do. That changes the architectural vocabulary [01:00:06] or style, if you will, to something that's more akin to the frame structures. Actually, [01:00:13] if you did a census of all of the traditional buildings in New Port Richey, there's more [01:00:17] frame structures than there are Mediterranean Revival. That was a short-lived ... Their [01:00:22] prominent buildings are Mediterranean Revival, but there's really a lot more frame houses [01:00:27] like Rex's house. It ties to a lot more of that domestic architecture vocabulary. The [01:00:36] real reason was because we changed the construction type. [01:00:40] Like you said, Mr. Smith said, why rush it with the other project going on? You addressed [01:00:48] when you first came up, and nothing against Mr. Smith's opinion, but I mean, Greg's a [01:00:51] friend of mine, and I think he's an awesome guy, and he does phenomenal things for the [01:00:54] city and the community as a whole, but on this one, we just have different opinions. [01:00:59] We've been trying to get an investor like yourself to come along and do this project [01:01:03] for 12 years now. Now you're here, and I guess it's just nerves of the residents and people [01:01:09] living on Central Avenue. I don't live on Central, trying to put myself in their shoes [01:01:13] as well, but the bottom line is I think it's going to be an asset to the city, and I think [01:01:18] it's really going to help our economy just take off and go in the direction it needs [01:01:21] to go. [01:01:22] Councilman Davis, do you have any questions for Mr. Sarkin? [01:01:28] I just, you keep talking about millennials and emptiness, but I think you're going to [01:01:34] have a senior component too that wants a walkable downtown, and then we have that maybe in some [01:01:44] of the larger houses that will end up selling their houses and moving into the rental situation [01:01:49] too, so there's another third factor, and we definitely have some seniors in town, [01:01:53] so not all of them are on fixed income. [01:01:56] I thought baby boomers were seniors now. [01:01:59] Well, Bill's not here, but I guess I am senior up here. But I think that's, you know, every [01:02:06] senior in this community is on a fixed income, so I think we'll have that addition to this [01:02:12] complex too. I'm looking forward to it. I think people will want to look out their apartments [01:02:17] and look into the lake, towards the lake, and be out there walking around and enjoying [01:02:23] some spark every day and go along with what Jeff says. You know, we're looking, we all [01:02:29] have reservations, but I think we're looking down the road and going to be happy with the [01:02:33] project when it's done. Thank you. [01:02:36] Thank you, Mr. Sarkin. If there's no other public comment, I'm going to bring this, yes [01:02:40] ma'am. You need to come down to the podium and give us your name and address for the [01:02:46] record. [01:02:47] I just taught a yoga class. I'm still in my yoga clothes. Linda Blake, 5743 Illinois Avenue. [01:03:03] I don't think we are particularly averse to change. I think that we have some post-traumatic [01:03:10] stress disorder here in this town, because when it comes to the city government, we rock [01:03:16] when it comes to the best parks. I would put our town up against any city in the country [01:03:20] with the beautiful parks that we have. When it comes to our city government getting involved [01:03:25] in real estate, I don't think there's a person in this room that doesn't feel that post-trauma, [01:03:32] that distress of what we've had to live with for years. And so we're nervous. We are nervous. [01:03:40] And if this apartment complex, which the vision is beautiful, there's no denying that the [01:03:45] vision is beautiful. What concerns us all is that this doesn't become just another bunch [01:03:51] of slumlord. This could be the mother of all slums if it ends up being that way. It's realistic [01:03:58] to think that I could live another 30 years in this town. What's this place going to look [01:04:03] like in 10 years, 15 years, and so on? What's it going to look like in 30 years? I think [01:04:09] a lot of people are really concerned about that above all else. So it's not that we're [01:04:15] averse to change. It's that we've had some really bad experiences that we've had to deal [01:04:20] with. I think you all have felt the same thing. Let's get some guarantees. Let's make sure [01:04:25] we lock it in so that we have some control over the future of this project. This is a [01:04:32] lovely vision. It truly is. And I think it's truly sincere. I think we all want to see [01:04:37] it work. But it's scary. It really is scary for very realistic reasons. So let's lock [01:04:45] in whatever controls we have and make sure they're going to last for decades. [01:04:50] Thank you. And I can assure you all of us up here have had the same traumatic stress [01:04:57] after watching the implosion back in the early 2000s. I'm going to bring it back to Council. [01:05:04] At this time, we were asked to make any disclosures of ex parte communications. I spoke to Mr. [01:05:14] Smith and I had an email from Ms. Moran. Both of them have expressed essentially the same [01:05:22] comments tonight that they did either in person or in email. I have also received the emails [01:05:33] and thank you for writing. I knew we were going to be here tonight. You both expressed [01:05:36] that you would be. I was tied up. I apologize for not responding back to you. Usually I [01:05:41] respond right back to you, at least to let you know that I've received it. So I ask you [01:05:46] for forgiveness on that and I've had no other conversation with anyone else. [01:05:50] Mr. Smith and I spoke about this at Rotary and other locations. I actually toured Orange [01:05:58] Lake when Mr. Starkey first became very interested in downtown and walked around it and he said, [01:06:04] wouldn't this be a great idea to have basically his vision. That was portrayed years ago. [01:06:10] How many years ago? Probably two or three years ago now. Since then, we haven't had [01:06:15] any detailed conversations about the project. Mr. Davis, did you need to? I've been a friend [01:06:23] of Frank's since the mid-90s, so discussions he and I have had over the years range from [01:06:30] a lot of different things and I'm sure some of this came up in this project here, but [01:06:35] I also got the emails too. Thank you. Now that that's all on the record, we're okay [01:06:41] to proceed? Yes. Very good. I have some comments to make, but we can wait. Is it time to make [01:06:50] a motion? If you would like, yes. I'd like to make a motion to move forward to approve [01:06:55] this and go forward with it. I did want to make some comments. Can we confirm that that [01:07:02] is for Ordinance 2109? There's two separate ordinances. So the motion is to approve Ordinance [01:07:10] 2017-2109, correct? Correct. Thank you. Mr. Stark, did you want to second that? I did [01:07:16] second it, yes. Okay, very good. Well, I confine my first part of this with just questioning [01:07:24] because I needed those questions answered. I guess I've lived in the town for 40 years [01:07:31] and I've lived and worked in the city for 40 years. That was a decision that we made [01:07:36] early on, although there was the call of the siren to go to Tampa, bigger money, whatever. [01:07:42] But we chose to stay in the city because we loved the city. I loved the idea that we were [01:07:47] able to walk into our downtown, have our business in the downtown, and so I want to put that [01:07:54] on the table. It's troublesome to me that it seems like I don't want the albatross of [01:08:01] Main Street Landings to be on our shoulders every time we have an opportunity to move [01:08:06] forward. That was a perfect storm situation and whatever missteps were made, we know with [01:08:15] no blame here, but that was and now we are here. I think for myself, this is probably [01:08:22] one of the most exciting times to live in the city. I think that we need to move forward [01:08:28] on this, particularly because we do not want any grass to grow under our feet because we [01:08:34] need to stay with this momentum and continue to move forward. [01:08:39] Some of you have heard me share. I own three millennials. I can tell you that not one of [01:08:44] them was interested in buying a house immediately. One of them lives in Austin, car to go, Uber. [01:08:53] They have one car between the two of them and more often than not, they are walking, [01:08:57] bicycling, or this car to go idea rather than even the interest of owning a car, the uptake [01:09:04] of it, the insurance, etc., etc. The areas of the country that I've been going to over [01:09:12] the last seven years are the epitome of this concept. Irvine and Lake Forest in California, [01:09:20] this is the buildings that they're doing, this type of building. They're apartments. [01:09:28] They are bordering on a park. If the park is not there, the builder builds the park, [01:09:34] all with the intention and idea of walking and having feet on the street, that they are [01:09:39] then able to walk into the downtown. I truly believe with this type of project, [01:09:49] that we are on the cutting edge and why folks that would be coming to the town and renting [01:09:58] this property are just exactly the type of folks that we want to have in our city. [01:10:05] Somebody mentioned something about Brooklyn. I'm amazed. My son said to me he has more [01:10:10] kids that he graduated with, University of Florida, who have gone to Brooklyn because [01:10:17] it has this element of it, where it's apartment living in a town that they can walk in. [01:10:27] It's even areas, I don't know what your concept of Brooklyn is, but I grew up in a neighborhood [01:10:32] that was classically like what we're talking about, that had a mix of street parking, ownership [01:10:38] of homes, rentals, this concept that we have of community, that you knew your neighbors [01:10:44] and you walked downtown, you walked to the avenue at that time, is what it was. [01:10:49] I think that I'm excited to be part of this next step and this next phase, I guess, in [01:10:57] the life and the history of the city. I think that this project, along with the Main Street [01:11:04] Landings and whatever other things are going to be happening, are just exactly what we [01:11:09] need in order to fulfill a vision. I do believe that this is going to be a very positive thing.
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Second Reading, Ordinance No. 2017-2111: Refuse Collection Services
discussedCouncil held a public hearing on second reading of Ordinance 2017-2111, which amends the city code regarding refuse collection by setting collection hours of 6 a.m. to 7 p.m. for both residential and commercial pickup, requiring all residential properties to maintain garbage service (with seasonal exceptions), and requiring refuse vendors to report customers to the city. Public comments raised concerns about early-morning commercial dumpster noise and mandatory service for seniors/seasonal residents, while a hauler urged earlier start times for safety. Discussion was extensive but the transcript was truncated before a final vote was recorded.
Ord. Ordinance No. 2017-2111
5023 Almer Street, Newport Ritchie5832 Indiana Ave7017 Park DriveJ.D. Parker & Sons Garbage CompanySouthgate Shopping PlazaDave ParkerDavisDeb MorrisJeffrey SaragossiLisa TinkerMs. ManceSharkeyOrdinance 2017-2111Pledge of CivilitySections 1024 and 1025 of New Port Richey Code of Ordinances▶ Jump to 1:11:11 in the videoShow transcriptHide transcript
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[01:11:18] We have a phenomenal hospital that is just steps away from this project. That hospital [01:11:25] is spending millions of dollars, multi-million dollars. The folks that are going to be working [01:11:30] that are working that hospital now want to live and work in their own community. I believe [01:11:36] that, coupled with the other business entities that are in our city, the idea that we don't [01:11:43] have places to walk to, I'd have to dispute that because there's loads of folks that are [01:11:48] walking in and around our downtown. Anyway, I'm excited about the vibrancy, the youthfulness, [01:11:55] and the exuberance that is going to come into our city as a result of this project. I heartily [01:12:00] agree that we should move forward on it. [01:12:02] Thank you. Mr. Sharkey. [01:12:04] Very well said. Mr. Bottoms, I agree 100%. Ms. Blake, you had excellent, excellent comments. [01:12:11] Thank you for being respectful and positive with your comments, as with everybody. Sometimes [01:12:16] people come up here and just say they don't really follow the Pledge of Civility and everyone [01:12:21] did tonight. Like I've said in the past, and I'll continue to say it, we don't have a crystal [01:12:29] ball. I wish I could assure everybody, yeah, it's going to be 100% success. Don't worry [01:12:33] about it. No one can do that. So as council members, we have to go with our best decision [01:12:39] on what we think is the best for Newport Ridge. And I think voting yes on both of these ordinances [01:12:44] is, in my opinion, the best decision. I understand and I respect everyone else's opinions. And [01:12:52] I hope five years from now, we're looking back saying, man, I'm so glad we did that. [01:12:55] I'm confident that we will. But like I said, no one has a crystal ball. But I just couldn't [01:13:01] pick a better developer to be partnering with with the city of Newport Ridge. And now [01:13:04] that Mr. Darkey has a phenomenal track record, a great vision, this is what he does for a [01:13:09] living. And I'm just very excited about it. Thank you. Councilman Davis. I'm in favor [01:13:17] of this project. I will take the time, though, Greg, to go through your information. And [01:13:22] this is the first reading. And I'll probably reach out to you with some questions. But [01:13:28] I'm going to go ahead with it for the first reading. Thank you. I can't speak for millennials. [01:13:38] I'm far enough out of that demographic. But it's hard for me to sometimes relate to what [01:13:45] they do and do not do. And I'm a bona fide car nut. So you may be taking my car away [01:13:53] from my cold, dead fingers, to steal a phrase from the NRA. But that being said, my wife [01:14:03] and I are empty nesters and have been for a while. And we're bouncing around a very, [01:14:08] very large house on a large plot of land. And as I look at what we pay for all of the [01:14:16] expenses associated with our house, I could see us moving into a two-bedroom apartment [01:14:25] and saving a boatload of money in the process, not to mention not having to deal with a yard [01:14:30] and everything else that's associated with it. And actually being able to walk to work. [01:14:35] It would take me two minutes on a bad day to get from the far side of Mr. Starkey's [01:14:41] proposed project to my front door at my office. I think there is a market for it, seeing what [01:14:51] Mr. Wertham and his folks have been doing with their building, seeing what Mr. Starkey [01:15:00] What is happening downtown with the potential of being able to walk a block beyond my store [01:15:07] and get to a place where we can buy groceries is exciting as well. I think this is part [01:15:15] of a transformation process. We saw some of the transformation with the park. We've seen [01:15:21] that transformation as the downtown has started to change its complexion. [01:15:30] The ability to have nice apartments right there at the park, I'd be surprised if they [01:15:38] don't sell out with a waiting list very shortly after you start collecting money for them. [01:15:45] I am going to be in support of this on first reading and like Councilman Davis, Mr. Smith, [01:15:50] I will read your documentation and give it full consideration before we get to second [01:15:56] reading. If there are no further questions or discussions, all those in favor please [01:16:03] signify by saying aye. Aye. Opposed, like sign. Next is Ordinance 2117-2110, Vacation [01:16:11] of a Portion of the Right-of-Way. Ordinance 2117-2110, an ordinance vacating 2.071 acre [01:16:17] portions of Central Avenue between Circle Boulevard and Adams Street, more fully described [01:16:20] herein in an Exhibit A, and reserving unto the City of New Port Richey, Florida, utility [01:16:25] easement in, under, on, over, and above said right-of-way, more fully described herein [01:16:30] providing for severability on an effective date. Thank you. Entertain a motion. I make [01:16:34] a motion to move forward on the Vacation of a Portion of Central Avenue to approve 2110-2017. [01:16:42] Do we have a second? Second. Second to the maker. No, I do want to thank you as well, [01:16:50] Greg, for the products and all of your comments tonight. Certainly, as Jeff said, we don't [01:16:57] have a crystal ball, but I'm excited about what we are going to do. And, you know, I [01:17:02] have an investment in this city as well. Lived here, work here, expect to retire and remain [01:17:08] here. So, thank you so much for all of your input. To the second. I have no further comments. [01:17:12] Thank you. Councilman Davis. Nothing. I have nothing further on this as well. There's no [01:17:17] further discussion. All those in favor, please signify by saying aye. Aye. Opposed, the like [01:17:21] sign. Next is second reading ordinance 2017-2111. Ordinance number 2017-2111, an ordinance of [01:17:29] the City of New Port Richey, Florida, providing for the amendment of sections 1024 and 1025 [01:17:33] of the New Port Richey Code of Ordinances pertaining to duties of garbage collectors [01:17:37] and customers in the hours and days of garbage collection in the city, providing for required [01:17:41] garbage collection agreements and reporting thereof, providing for complex severability [01:17:45] and effective date. Thank you. This is a public hearing on the second reading of this [01:17:51] ordinance, opened up for public comment, and I know for a fact we've got some folks that [01:17:55] want to talk to us about it, so come on down. If you'd like to come down to the front row, [01:18:02] that'd be great. [01:18:16] Good evening. Jeffrey Saragossi, 5023 Almer Street, New Port Richey. One of the reasons [01:18:22] why I'm here has to do with the pertaining to the noise of the dumpsters, basically. [01:18:31] I represent a couple of the communities that are adjacent to the area directly behind the [01:18:36] Southgate Shopping Plaza, and the dumpster noise is, to say the least, quite disturbing. [01:18:46] I'd like to request that the hour of collections would commence at 7 o'clock rather than 6 [01:18:53] o'clock through 7 p.m. in the evening. I sent the assistant to the city manager a video [01:19:00] of a dumpster truck picking up three different dumpsters. I only took one video, but it was [01:19:07] quite disturbing, and it was after 8 o'clock in the evening. I don't think it's civil, [01:19:12] and it certainly disturbs the quality of life of the individuals who happen to be all [01:19:17] over 55 communities, so I'm requesting that it be changed to that time. [01:19:25] Thank you. Next. [01:19:31] Deb Morris, 5832 Indiana Ave. I just want to say that they start at 3 a.m., and it's [01:19:42] very disturbing when you want to get a good night's sleep and get up and go to work. I [01:19:46] think 3 a.m. for them to roll into the city, a garbage truck, it's very loud, and then [01:19:51] they idle at every stop sign, and then they back up. Sometimes I can count 37 beep, beep, [01:19:59] beeps, the clanging of the – it's very loud, so I'm really asking you guys to change [01:20:05] it so that they cannot come into town at 3 a.m. in the morning. [01:20:10] Next. [01:20:19] Dave Parker, J.D. Parker & Sons Garbage Company. I've spoken with most of you. We've been [01:20:28] in business for 68 years. We're still a locally owned company, and our office is in [01:20:33] the city of New Port Richey. In addition, we are a service industry. In addition to [01:20:38] customer service, we also – safety is also the number one key as far as doing our business, [01:20:47] not just for my men, but for the public in general. We are one of the top five dangerous [01:20:54] jobs, so getting our work done, there's many, many ways for my men to get hurt, killed, [01:21:00] and whatnot doing this job. Three weeks ago, we lost one of our men, tragically, to an [01:21:08] incident at work, which just serves to underscore the need for safety in our job. The reason [01:21:16] why I'm up here speaking this evening is we've had several close calls over the years [01:21:22] in the city limits. Like I said, safety – we start early in the morning for a reason. Traffic [01:21:29] – we try to keep our guys out of the sun. You work in the sun a long time, you get lethargic [01:21:37] and whatnot, it leads to safety conditions. We also try to stay out of school zones. We [01:21:43] have many school zones. Our whole key is to get in and out of everybody's way. Our trucks [01:21:51] don't have mechanical stop signs like school buses do, and there are no laws on the books [01:21:57] to protect my men. When the laws – the ordinance that's on the books right now is 6 a.m. [01:22:07] to 5 p.m., that puts us right in rush hour. It also puts us in the school zones with kids, [01:22:12] school bus stops, things of that nature. Again, our whole thing is to get in and out of everybody's [01:22:18] way. There are also other benefits to us working the hours we work. We also work as a community [01:22:26] watch. Our drivers and crews work the same routes twice a week. They get used to the [01:22:33] areas, they get used to the homes. We have worked with the New Port Richey Police, New Port Richey Police and the Sheriff's Department reporting crimes because they report back [01:22:44] to me in the office things they see that are out of nature and I do call it in. My main [01:22:52] job is to get my men home safe to their families. It's very difficult every evening letting [01:22:59] these trucks go, hoping they all come back. My request would be to move the residential [01:23:08] from 6 a.m. to 4 a.m. so we could get into some of these high traffic areas and some [01:23:12] of these school zones and get them out of the way before they start. The street cleaners [01:23:17] in New Port Richey start early, sweeping the streets for the same obvious reason, and [01:23:22] they start long before 6 a.m. to get the streets cleaned. We would like to do the same thing. [01:23:28] Like I said, in 68 years, we've had a 1 a.m. starting time. That's in other parts of the [01:23:34] county. If you check with the county records, we have very few noise complaints. The noise [01:23:38] complaints that we do have, I handle directly and I have 100% satisfaction with treating [01:23:46] whatever I need to treat and pleasing the customer, whether rerouting or whatever we [01:23:53] need to do. The only other thing I would like to say is you would actually have to come [01:23:59] out and see what we do at night. We spend an average of 3 to 8 seconds at each stop [01:24:03] and then we're gone. You don't hear the truck again. Other than that, I appreciate everyone's [01:24:08] time tonight and your consideration to this matter. Thank you. [01:24:13] What is the time now? [01:24:18] Lisa Tinker, 7017 Park Drive. I actually wasn't going to speak on the time that the garbage [01:24:25] trucks come, but I personally think in that industry to have them start and work in the [01:24:31] heat of the day is ludicrous. I think 3 a.m. start when the weather's cooler, these guys [01:24:37] are throwing our garbage, which had your garbage sit for a couple of days, it doesn't smell [01:24:42] very good, especially in the 97 degree weather. 3 a.m. start, everybody's got their windows [01:24:47] closed in the summertime for the air conditioning, you're not going to hear the garbage trucks. [01:24:51] But what my concern is the mandatory garbage service. I have a business in town, I have [01:24:58] a house in town, we have service at both places. My concern is the winter residents, which [01:25:03] I understand you're going to make accommodations for, but also the senior citizens. My grandmother [01:25:08] had one little garbage bag of garbage for two weeks. To force them to pay for biweekly [01:25:14] pickup when they don't, it's not necessary. Plus you're going to have the traffic, the [01:25:18] garbage trucks on the roads, which were having trouble with the roads, you're getting potholes, [01:25:23] so now you're going to have garbage trucks, more traffic going if you do the mandatory [01:25:27] pickups for people who have found other places to put their garbage. I understand there are [01:25:32] people disposing of garbage in places that they shouldn't, but if I don't have garbage [01:25:38] service, the last thing I'm going to do is put my garbage in my debris pile. I'm going [01:25:42] to drop it off somewhere else on the other side of town or by my office. The people who [01:25:48] are disposing of that garbage in places they shouldn't aren't the residents that are living [01:25:52] right there. So to find those, force a rental to have garbage service, I can see that, but [01:25:58] a permanent resident, you know, a lot of us have businesses in town and homes. Which [01:26:03] place do you pay? Both? Or some people take their home garbage to their business because [01:26:08] they don't have that much. But that's all I have to say. [01:26:12] Thank you. Anyone else? Seeing no one else come forward, bring it back to council. [01:26:19] Ms. Mance, could you address, Ms. Tinker and I have been emailing back and forth, can you [01:26:23] address your concerns with this ordinance as far as seasonal residences and, like she [01:26:28] said, senior citizens that may not be occupying the homes every week of the year? [01:26:34] I certainly can try, Mr. Deputy Mayor. The ordinance does not distinguish between whether [01:26:41] you're a renter or a property owner. We are setting forth a requirement that every residential [01:26:51] property in the city retain the services of a disposal company. Certainly you don't [01:26:59] have to get into a contract where you're required to pay every month of the year. There are [01:27:07] seasonal exceptions to this. But what we're prompted by in large part is the number of [01:27:16] people that do not currently have service in the city with any refuse collection company. [01:27:24] The last time we checked the records, there were in excess of 600 properties in the city [01:27:30] where no trash service was used. As Mrs. Tinker, if you'll allow me, she raises a good point [01:27:43] that some people do have businesses in the city, some people do like to take this ordinance, [01:27:49] doesn't by any means contemplate every scenario that might exist, and so it really isn't addressed. [01:27:59] But I'm certain that if she were to provide evidence that she has service somewhere else, [01:28:05] that would be acceptable. [01:28:07] This is one of those ordinances I wish we didn't even have to discuss. I mean, [01:28:10] we have 600 homes in the city that don't have a pickup service. I have debris piles in my [01:28:15] neighborhood where people literally just take their garbage bags and throw them on top of the [01:28:22] landscape debris piles and leave them there on a regular basis. It's absurd to me that we even [01:28:27] have to have this discussion. Unfortunately, we do. That's just some of the residents we have [01:28:32] living in our city and some of the landlords that don't care what their tenants do. So as long as [01:28:39] we can look at everyone individually, like you said, I mean, if they're living here seasonally, [01:28:44] obviously we're not going to require you to have a garbage pickup when you're not here. [01:28:47] If you have a business in the city, you take your garbage, you know, a buddy of mine used [01:28:50] to manage a marina. He had a truck. He'd take his garbage to work at the marina and throw it away. [01:28:54] That we can deal with, right? I don't think it has to be black and white. [01:29:00] I don't think it has to be black and white. We have to put something in writing though to combat [01:29:04] the fact that we have 600 homes without pickup service. Once again, it's just absurd to me we [01:29:10] even have to have the discussion, but we do. And I don't see another way of going about doing this. [01:29:15] As far as the pickup time, you know, Mr. Parker, I understand you've been doing this for a long [01:29:21] time and you've been able to start it, you know, based on the middle of the night. But [01:29:25] like I told you on the phone, unfortunately, I get a tremendous amount of complaints as far as [01:29:29] garbage trucks going through residential neighborhoods at three in the morning. [01:29:33] I hear the one, and I don't know if it's on your route or not, but at the city plaza, [01:29:37] they pick it up between 3, 330 and four in the morning. And it's, you know, I have windows are [01:29:41] shut in the summertime and it's about probably 100 yards from my house and it wakes me up, [01:29:46] you know, every week when they do it. So, you know, it's one of those things we can't make [01:29:51] everyone happy. I understand your concerns, but I just feel that a lot of complaints from [01:29:56] city residents are in the pickup time. [01:30:00] Basically, same story, if somebody rolls down my street and picks up my rubber garbage cans [01:30:07] at any hour of the day or night, I really don't much care. [01:30:11] On the other hand, when you can hear the dumpsters clanging at ODARC 30, that seems to be the [01:30:20] issue, but it's a commercial pickup at that point that is really obnoxious, and we've [01:30:31] got some folks in the refuge collection business that are picking up these commercial dumpsters [01:30:41] in the wee hours of the morning and waking up neighbors for a considerable distance around [01:30:46] them. [01:30:47] That's the issue that I would like to see us try to address. [01:30:50] Yes, and I was not here for the first portion of the vote. [01:30:57] If you could just clarify. [01:30:58] So this is addressing residential pickup, hours to start and service, as well as the [01:31:04] days. [01:31:05] This also includes that little thing about the recycling, eliminating. [01:31:12] The residential time period is not changing. [01:31:16] That's already been set. [01:31:17] There is no commercial time period, and that's what this ordinance does. [01:31:20] It sets that. [01:31:21] What time? [01:31:22] I'm sorry. [01:31:23] 6 a.m. to 7 p.m., so they'll both be the same. [01:31:27] It does provide for the requirement that each resident have a pickup service, and it requires [01:31:34] the vendors, the refuge companies, to report periodically to the city who their customers [01:31:40] are so we can check that against any complaints that we get to make sure that we're enforcing [01:31:45] the ordinance. [01:31:46] Well, the piece about having service, it's true. [01:31:49] It's too bad that we even have to discuss this. [01:31:52] I remember when I first ventured into the landlord, I didn't even think to ask my tenant [01:31:58] to sign up for trash. [01:32:00] I just made the assumption that he would, and just happened to come upon him one day [01:32:04] when he was bundling up his trash and taking it to his car. [01:32:07] I said, where are you taking your trash? [01:32:10] He was taking it to his office where he was an employee. [01:32:14] That was a temporary situation, and I made a point that when I rented the second time [01:32:18] around, that was just part of they had to do that. [01:32:21] People get very creative, and I can tell you that, having lived in different locations [01:32:25] in the city, they're very creative with where they put their trash. [01:32:29] That piece of it, it's unfortunate. [01:32:31] We have to address it. [01:32:35] I think it's almost a shame that we have to lump the residential with the commercial. [01:32:42] I think the trash truck on my block, tippy-toes down the block, I never hear them picking [01:32:47] up the trash, but I can hear, when I had a conversation with Mr. Parker, there are times [01:32:53] in the morning, like maybe four-ish, where I'll wake up and I'll hear that unmistakable [01:32:59] clang of the commercial. [01:33:02] I know it's not necessarily even in the city because we live near the river and the noise [01:33:07] travels, but I do have a heart for what Mr. Parker is saying. [01:33:11] I actually have a brother who lives up north and is in this business, and having conversations [01:33:15] with him, that is really essentially what the companies want to do. [01:33:21] They want to be efficient, and they want to be quick, and they want to be out of the weather [01:33:24] because that is a concern, whether, of course, up north they're dealing with the different [01:33:28] weather. [01:33:31] I actually was thinking that a one o'clock start time for that quiet truck that goes [01:33:37] down my block and picks up the residential, that really does make some good sense. [01:33:42] How to tie that in with the commercial, I don't know. [01:33:45] I am actually thunderstruck that we are in the 21st century and they're still picking [01:33:49] up trash with that noise level. [01:33:52] I don't know what the company is or how they do it, but I was in St. Petersburg, I have [01:33:58] a brother that lives there, and again, I don't know what it is, if it's the type of equipment [01:34:04] they use or whatever, I don't know if it's the way they pad the trucks or the dumpsters. [01:34:09] That's the piece that I would like to think, if putting this type of an ordinance in place [01:34:17] spurs the industry on to getting creative in that piece of it, it just seems like nothing [01:34:23] has changed in the last 40 years that I've lived here in the city about how trash is [01:34:27] picked up. [01:34:30] With that said, I'm fine with the piece about requiring everyone to carry the insurance, [01:34:38] I'm just not, I mean, sorry, the trash pickup, but I'm not convinced that that necessarily [01:34:46] is the best idea about the time. [01:34:52] I'm remembering back as a kid when you'd hear the milk bottles clinking at night and it [01:34:58] would wake you up, so I just think that if this kind of ordinance spurs the industry [01:35:05] into making changes, then that would be a very good thing, and then maybe we can come [01:35:09] back and revisit the time for start, because they've eliminated the noise issue, which [01:35:14] is a big part of the commercial portion of it. [01:35:18] Thank you. [01:35:19] I go along with that idea. I'm for this commercial time frame, because they just like to bounce [01:35:26] those dumpsters and make sure they get everything out. To put throw rubber trash cans in the [01:35:32] back of a trash can in a neighborhood where you've got kids on the way to school, especially [01:35:39] in my neighborhood where just about everybody walks to school, whether it's over to Marlow [01:35:43] or over to Gulf Middle or even Gulf High School, there's a lot of walking going on and there's [01:35:51] a lot of people trying to get to work up and down Madison. You know what's going on in [01:35:59] Madison. So I'd like to pass this as far as the commercial, but I'd like us to revisit [01:36:05] the time, because I think it's the same times for the residential and make sure we take [01:36:13] care of the safety, not only for the drivers, but for the kids on the way to school. [01:36:18] Mr. Driscoll. [01:36:19] Yes, please. [01:36:20] So wouldn't we pass this as is and then revisit the residential dumping at another time? We [01:36:25] approved that, what, two years ago? [01:36:28] Yeah, that's been in place. I don't know exactly for how long. I don't have that in front of [01:36:33] me, but that has been in place. [01:36:36] Well, it's been on council. It reminds me of the gardening ordinance where people are [01:36:39] saying they don't want gardens in the front yard, but it was already approved and just [01:36:44] going along with an amendment to the ordinance. So I mean, I don't want to not be able to [01:36:49] pass this due to lack of votes with Councilman Phillips right here. So we pass as is. Can [01:36:54] we just revisit that and have a discussion at a later time? [01:36:57] Yes. [01:36:58] Like I said, it's already how it is in place right now. [01:37:00] Exactly. There's no change being made to the residential time period. [01:37:03] Entertain a motion. [01:37:04] Move to approve. [01:37:05] We have a motion. [01:37:06] Second. [01:37:07] Second to the maker. [01:37:08] Now, like I said, I'm more than happy to have the discussion and get input from the residents [01:37:13] again, but like I said, I don't see how it affects this ordinance. [01:37:16] Second. [01:37:17] Yeah, I'm just concerned about the safety of our kids and the drivers and the people [01:37:22] going to work. And that's residential. That's not commercial. [01:37:26] Thank you. Councilwoman? [01:37:27] So what I think I hear you saying is that you're wanting to move this forward, but we [01:37:31] would like to revisit it again as potential... [01:37:34] Revisit the residential hours. [01:37:36] Commercial, I mean the residential hours. [01:37:37] That's correct. [01:37:38] Okay. I would... Oh, I'm sorry. We're not voting yet. [01:37:41] Not yet. [01:37:42] Yeah, okay. Thank you. [01:37:43] And I feel the same way. I understand what Mr. Parker is saying. And as far as the residential [01:37:50] is concerned, like I said, I couldn't care less when they come down my neighborhood because
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Recommendation of Firm for Annexation and Feasibility Strategy Study RFQ 17-003
approvedCouncil authorized the City Manager to enter into a professional services agreement with PMG Associates for an amount not to exceed $54,650 to conduct an annexation feasibility and strategy study. The study, limited to the city's utility service area, will identify potential annexation areas, address state statute requirements, and analyze impacts on revenues, expenditures, and residents. Completion is expected in two to two-and-a-half months.
- motion:Authorize the City Manager to enter into a professional services agreement with PMG Associates not to exceed $54,650 for the annexation feasibility and strategy study. (passed)
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[01:37:54] we don't have any dumpsters anywhere near us. I do have a lot of sympathy for the folks [01:37:59] that are getting rousted out of bed with the dumpsters firing. [01:38:03] So with that, all those in favor, please signify by saying aye. [01:38:07] Aye. [01:38:08] Opposed, the like sign. [01:38:10] What time is the street sweepers? [01:38:13] Do we need to take a... Does anybody need to take a break, or can we continue on? [01:38:18] Let's keep going. [01:38:19] Okay, next item on the agenda is the recommendation of a firm for annexation and feasibility study. [01:38:24] Ms. Manns? [01:38:25] Yes, sir. Mr. Mayor, members of the City Council, we have a request before you to enter into [01:38:34] a professional services agreement, and Mr. Murphy will represent the agenda item this evening. [01:38:40] Thank you. [01:38:41] Thank you, Ms. Manns. A request for qualifications was let for the proposed annexation feasibility [01:38:49] and strategy study. The study is designed to provide information regarding the impacts [01:38:56] on revenues and expenditures from the provision of municipal services to the study area. [01:39:02] The report will also identify the impacts to the residents of the study area, [01:39:07] and the study area itself is limited to the utility service area of the city. [01:39:14] We received five proposals to undertake this effort. [01:39:22] Myself, the development director, and the public works director reviewed those five proposals [01:39:29] and narrowed the list down to two, and we invited those two firms in for an interview. [01:39:37] After interviewing those two firms, it was the consensus of the group that we recommend [01:39:49] the City Council authorize the city manager to enter into a professional services agreement [01:39:55] with PMG Associates in an amount not to exceed $54,650 for professional planning services [01:40:05] in relationship to the annexation feasibility and strategy study. [01:40:15] Any other information? [01:40:18] No additional comments, Mr. Mayor. [01:40:20] Open it up for public comment. Seeing no one come forward, bring it back to council. [01:40:27] So we're looking for ways to maybe square off the city a little bit. Is that the point here? [01:40:30] Yes, we are. [01:40:31] Hopefully heading west with that. [01:40:38] Entertain a motion. [01:40:39] Move for approval. [01:40:40] Second. [01:40:41] Second to the maker. [01:40:43] Oh, no further comments. No, thank you. [01:40:45] Just curious, what kind of time are we looking at from the start of this until we actually have the product in our hand? [01:40:53] The firm has proposed about a two to two and a half month time frame to complete their work. [01:41:02] Thank you. [01:41:03] Councilman Davis. [01:41:05] What precludes these people from saying, no, I don't want to be in the city? [01:41:11] Well, one of the things that the firm will look at is ensuring that all the state statutes are met, [01:41:22] especially regarding the adjoining area. [01:41:25] In some instances, it may very well be that the residents of a particular area, [01:41:31] if given the opportunity by referendum to vote, may have the option of not being annexed. [01:41:39] But there are several instances where there are small enclaves within the city that are much easier to annex [01:41:48] and would not necessarily require a referendum. [01:41:52] Did we just tell them that, hey, you're in the city? [01:41:55] Well, it's not that easy. [01:41:58] But generally speaking, those that are surrounded by corporate boundaries of the city really have little option. [01:42:07] If it proves financially viable for the city to accept those areas. [01:42:14] I just can't see how somebody's in the county, doesn't want to stay in the county, says no, [01:42:20] and doesn't pay their you say yes and they say no. [01:42:23] Where does it go then? [01:42:26] If it's an enclave, enclaves are annexed through interlocal agreement with the county. [01:42:31] The only parties that have to agree to that is the city and the county, if it's truly an enclave. [01:42:37] Okay. [01:42:39] So going down mass, there's two bars right next door to the Spartan. [01:42:45] One's in the city and one's not in the city. [01:42:48] So we try to square that up. [01:42:51] We can't. [01:42:52] They say no. [01:42:54] It's not really an enclave then. [01:42:55] It's not an enclave. [01:42:57] So they say no, they remain no. [01:43:00] Well, there will be, if it's included in the study area and it's considered not to be an enclave, [01:43:08] there will be other state statutes that would have to be met. [01:43:11] And if one of them is a referendum, [01:43:14] then it would be the property owners of that area that could vote not to be annexed in. [01:43:21] There are additional rules relating to non-voter areas where you have commercial properties. [01:43:28] There are certain percentage rules and tests. [01:43:30] So what these firms do is they help you to draw out the area [01:43:34] and figure out where you might have the most success in getting annexation [01:43:39] and drawing it in such a way that you hope that the numbers will play out so that you'll get the referendum. [01:43:45] They're going to pick out the places we think we have a chance. [01:43:47] We're not giving them places we're looking at, or is it a combination? [01:43:51] Well, actually, the first step in the process is to designate individual study areas, [01:43:57] ensuring that the state statutes are met, especially regarding the adjoining areas. [01:44:03] So initially we'll prioritize which areas they should focus on initially. [01:44:11] Have you already done that? [01:44:12] Have you already got those ideals? [01:44:14] In a very rough draft that the consultant had prepared as part of their presentation. [01:44:19] The consultant hasn't. [01:44:20] We haven't. [01:44:21] We have not. [01:44:22] Okay. [01:44:23] That's what I'm asking. [01:44:24] I thought it sounded like you said we have. [01:44:26] All right. [01:44:29] I can tell you there's some interest. [01:44:32] We recently picked up some water customers on the east side of Rowan Road, [01:44:41] and one of them in that area that we just picked up in one of those three new water areas [01:44:55] we just got done buying. [01:44:57] They're on the far east. [01:45:00] One of the people that lives on the far east side of that service area actually contacted [01:45:06] me and asked, what does it take to get annexed into the city? [01:45:10] They would love to be in the city. [01:45:14] I had to explain to the gentleman that there's a lot of land between us and him that would [01:45:20] wind up having to get annexed before we could entertain his request to be annexed into the [01:45:26] city of New Port Richey. [01:45:27] As recently as this morning, I had somebody, one of my clients, that lives out on, and [01:45:35] I've lost the name of the subdivision, but out on the coast, out behind the old Kmart [01:45:44] and that area, that asked essentially the same question, when are you going to be able [01:45:51] to annex us because we want to be part of the city? [01:45:54] There is some interest out there, and if we do the annexation study, we'll know what's [01:46:01] feasible and then we can approach people if they like the idea of being annexed, great, [01:46:06] we'll move forward. [01:46:07] If they don't, then no. [01:46:12] The enclaves being a special exception to that general rule of thumb. [01:46:17] I don't think we should get too far ahead of ourselves. [01:46:19] There are people that have inquired, we'd like to be in the city, that a couple of you [01:46:22] met with on Oldsner, and there are areas, not to bring up a sore subject again, but [01:46:26] Leisure Lane and Van Doren, there's areas like that that, you know, it's just like a [01:46:30] jigsaw puzzle with the county and New Port Richey, New Port Richey, and who's policing what, [01:46:34] who's code enforcement, so if we could square it off a little bit in certain areas, and [01:46:39] it's feasible to do so, and the residents are in favor of it, I don't see why this hurts [01:46:43] to explore options. [01:46:44] Like I said, I don't think we're telling anyone right now we're taking over by any means, [01:46:48] this just gives us options on what areas might help our police department better, code [01:46:52] enforcement better, the city as a whole, explore those options, and then go from there and [01:46:57] see if, you know, it's beneficial for the city and the residents, you know, to agree [01:47:03] on that at that time. [01:47:04] This is just a study to kind of see what our options are, right? [01:47:08] And including the poor lady on Oldsner who said that if her husband died in the backyard, [01:47:12] which is in the county, she'd drag him to the front yard before she called 911, because [01:47:17] the front yard and the house are inside the city limits. [01:47:19] It's a perfect example, let's square things off. [01:47:23] I believe I need a motion. [01:47:29] You have one. [01:47:30] Do we? [01:47:31] You have one. [01:47:32] We have one, okay. [01:47:33] We have a motion and a second. [01:47:35] Any further discussion? [01:47:36] All those in favor, please signify by saying aye. [01:47:38] Aye. [01:47:39] Opposed, like sign. [01:47:40] Next is First Amendment to the lease of the West Pasco Chamber. [01:47:42] Yes, sir, Mr. Mayor. [01:47:44] The City of New Port Richey has leased space to the West Pasco Chamber of Commerce since [01:47:50] 1971. [01:47:53] On March 18th of 2014, the City and the Chamber entered into a new lease agreement which terminated [01:48:02] all previous agreements, the term of which expired on June 30th, 2017. [01:48:09] The request before you this evening is in conformance with Section 3 of the lease agreement, [01:48:16] which allows for the term to be renewed for a one-year period of time upon the written [01:48:21] agreement of mutual parties. [01:48:25] In that regard, the current fee being paid by the Chamber of Commerce for the lease space [01:48:32] is $250 a month, and I have recommended to them and it has been approved, and the recommendation [01:48:44] before you this evening is to increase the rent by $150 per month so that the rental [01:48:52] or lease space amount is $400 per month going forward. [01:48:58] With that, the staff is recommending that you consider approval of the recommendation [01:49:03] for a one-year period of time. [01:49:05] Thank you. [01:49:06] I'll open it up for public comment. [01:49:08] Seeing no one come forward, I'll bring it back to Council. [01:49:10] Move for approval. [01:49:11] I'll second it with a question. [01:49:14] To the maker. [01:49:17] Was there a question? [01:49:18] Has it always been a one-year lease? [01:49:20] No, it has not always been a one-year lease, and most recently it was a three-year lease, [01:49:27] but the lease contained a provision for a one-year renewal. [01:49:31] Okay, is it our choice or their choice, or is it by mutual consent? [01:49:37] That they just want a one-year lease? [01:49:39] I'm sure they would like more than that, but the current lease agreement only allows for [01:49:50] a one-year renewal of the lease from the original three-year terms. [01:49:55] Okay, thank you. [01:49:58] To the maker. [01:49:59] I don't think we can afford a welcoming center at $400 a month, and in the condition that [01:50:04] they've upgraded the building and the new signage, God bless them for $400 a month. [01:50:10] I'll give them another three years. [01:50:13] I second. [01:50:14] That's fine. [01:50:15] Councilman Starkey? [01:50:16] I like the sign as well. [01:50:17] I think it looks good. [01:50:18] The sign is very nice. [01:50:19] There's no further discussion. [01:50:20] All those in favor, please signify. [01:50:22] Aye. [01:50:25] Opposed? [01:50:26] I like the sign. [01:50:28] Next is 2016-2017 roadway striping project closeout? [01:50:31] Yes sir, Mr. Mayor, the purpose of the agenda item this evening is twofold. [01:50:39] First it's a final deductive change order in the amount of $4,735.62. [01:50:46] Additionally, we're asking you to approve a final pay request in the amount of $55,264.38 [01:50:59] to Whiteleaf LLC doing business as traffic solutions for the completion of our 2016-17 [01:51:09] roadway striping project. [01:51:11] If you have any specific questions, Mr. Rivera is prepared to respond. [01:51:17] Thank you. [01:51:18] Open it up for public comment. [01:51:19] Seeing no one, come forward and bring it back to council. [01:51:22] Move for approval. [01:51:23] Second. [01:51:24] Move to the maker. [01:51:25] Nothing. [01:51:26] Second. [01:51:27] No, thank you. [01:51:28] Mr. Starkey? [01:51:29] Likewise. [01:51:30] No further discussion. [01:51:31] All those in favor, please signify by saying aye. [01:51:32] Aye. [01:51:33] Opposed? [01:51:34] Likes? [01:51:35] I know. [01:51:36] Next is the 2016 stormwater lining project closeout? [01:51:39] Mr. Mayor, members of the council, this is the final pay request from Lane & Liner LLC [01:51:46] in the amount of $55,000 for stormwater drainage pipe rehabilitation. [01:51:54] Mr. Rivera, is there something that you'd like to add in respect to this agenda item? [01:52:01] These are standard projects that we do as far as the guys in the stormwater utility [01:52:07] going out and doing inspections according to our NPDES permit once they identify certain [01:52:13] pipes that are in decline or that have defects. [01:52:16] This is one of the ways that we can rehabilitate those lines instead of doing standard construction. [01:52:22] We have a contractor that comes in and he does a lining of the interior of that pipe
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First Amendment to the Lease with West Pasco Chamber of Commerce
approvedCouncil approved the First Amendment to the Lease with West Pasco Chamber of Commerce on a motion that passed unanimously by voice vote with minimal discussion.
- motion:Motion to approve the First Amendment to the Lease with West Pasco Chamber of Commerce. (passed)
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[01:52:28] to where we don't have to disturb any ground. [01:52:31] Thank you. [01:52:32] Open it up for public comment. [01:52:36] Seeing none, bring it back to council. [01:52:37] Move for approval. [01:52:38] We have a motion. [01:52:39] Second. [01:52:40] Second to the maker? [01:52:41] No. [01:52:42] To the second? [01:52:43] No. [01:52:44] Thank you. [01:52:45] Thank you, Mayor. [01:52:46] No comment. [01:52:47] Thank you. [01:52:48] If there's no further discussion, all those in favor, please signify by saying aye. [01:52:51] Aye. [01:52:52] Opposed? [01:52:53] Likes? [01:52:54] Aye. [01:52:55] Motion passes. [01:52:56] Next is Recreation and Aquatic Center 90 days of summer membership sale? [01:52:59] Ms. Manns? [01:53:00] The purpose of this agenda item is to seek authorization on the sale of three-month memberships [01:53:06] to the Recreation and Aquatic Centers. [01:53:09] It is an annual sale and it is typically referred to as 90 days of summer. [01:53:16] The sale, if approved by you, will be offered from May 3rd to June 30th, 2017 and will be [01:53:25] good for three months from the date of purchase. [01:53:31] The Director of Parks and Recreation indicated in her May 2nd agenda item to you that last [01:53:39] year the sale generated $28,949. [01:53:40] Thank you. [01:53:41] I'll open it up for public comment. [01:53:46] Seeing no one come forward, bring it back to council. [01:53:49] I have a question, Ms. Smith. [01:53:52] So when people purchase this, I see there's a fee or a resident discount fee, the $115.20. [01:53:59] So at the end of the time, which I guess if they purchased it as late as June 30th, it [01:54:03] would be good through September 30th? [01:54:05] Yes, that's correct. [01:54:07] Most people do purchase it during the month of May or early June, though. [01:54:13] And then at that point, what can they do to continue their membership? [01:54:18] They could, since we don't offer three-month memberships beyond this, they would either [01:54:25] purchase daily or monthly or an annual membership. [01:54:27] And at that point, if they're a resident with the resident discount, what would an annual [01:54:32] membership be? [01:54:33] And is that from that September 30th to the following year, let's just say, if they purchase [01:54:37] it? [01:54:38] Correct. [01:54:39] The annual membership is good for a year from the date of purchase. [01:54:42] And for example, a youth resident purchasing an annual pass would be $135. [01:54:50] And to give you an idea of the discount on the sale, a youth resident is a savings of [01:54:56] $3.20 a month during the sale. [01:54:59] So the family went with the $115.20 as a resident, do you have any idea what a family membership [01:55:06] is? [01:55:07] Which one was that again? [01:55:08] Family. [01:55:09] Resident. [01:55:10] Family resident? [01:55:11] Yeah. [01:55:12] One year. [01:55:13] One year? [01:55:14] Yes, I can tell you that. [01:55:15] Household. [01:55:16] I think it's household. [01:55:17] Yeah, household. [01:55:18] Oh, a household? [01:55:19] These families, household. [01:55:20] Yeah, household. [01:55:21] Household for annual resident household is $403 for residents for a year. [01:55:27] Okay. [01:55:28] All right, thank you very much. [01:55:30] Thank you. [01:55:31] On a Friday note, can we get a breakdown of the four categories of the $28,000? [01:55:41] I sense it's a lot of youth taking advantage of the summer program, that's why I'd just [01:55:47] like to know. [01:55:48] Yes, sir, Mr. Councilman. [01:55:49] I'm Mike Church in the City Manager's Report. [01:55:51] Thanks.
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2016/2017 Roadway Striping Project Close Out
This transcript segment does not actually cover the 2016/2017 Roadway Striping Project Close Out. Instead it contains the tail end of a prior item (a 90-day sale motion) and the reappointment of Lou Perlow to the Land Development Review Board, followed by the start of an Economic Development Department report.
- motion:Approve a 90-day sale (carryover from prior item). (passed)
- motion:Reappoint Louis Perlow to the Land Development Review Board with a term through May 6, 2020. (passed)
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[01:55:57] Do we have a motion? [01:55:58] I'll make a motion to approve the 90-day sale. [01:56:02] Okay, second. [01:56:03] I'll second it. [01:56:04] Maker, any further? [01:56:05] No, can people purchase this as gifts? [01:56:08] Yes, they can. [01:56:09] Absolutely, we do gift cards. [01:56:10] Okay, awesome. [01:56:11] Thank you. [01:56:12] Thank you, Elaine. [01:56:13] For the second. [01:56:14] Nothing. [01:56:15] Deputy Mayor? [01:56:16] No, just public comments. [01:56:19] No further discussion. [01:56:20] All those in favor, please signify by saying aye. [01:56:22] Aye. [01:56:23] Opposed, like sign. [01:56:24] Next is board reappointment of Lou Perlow to the Land Development Review Board. [01:56:28] Ms. Manns? [01:56:29] Yes, sir, Mr. Mayor. [01:56:30] It's a pleasure to recommend the reappointment of Mr. Louis Perlow to the Land Development [01:56:35] Review Board. [01:56:36] He has been serving since 2014 and has demonstrated himself to be a valuable member of the board. [01:56:43] If this appointment is approved by you, his renewal term will span until May 6th of 2020. [01:56:54] We're asking your consideration of his reappointment. [01:56:57] Thank you. [01:56:58] Open up for public comment. [01:57:00] Seeing no one, bring it back to council. [01:57:02] Move for approval. [01:57:03] Second. [01:57:04] To the maker. [01:57:05] Thank you for your service so far and looking forward to seeing you at the meetings until [01:57:08] 2020. [01:57:09] Second. [01:57:10] Yes, Mr. Perlow does an excellent job on the Land Development Review Board and I'm happy [01:57:14] to have him back. [01:57:16] Councilwoman? [01:57:17] Yeah, it's actually delightful to see people that have been serving on our boards continue [01:57:23] to come back and continue to stay with it. [01:57:27] So I think that speaks highly of the people that are city staff liaisons with these different [01:57:33] groups and also their commitment to the city. [01:57:35] So we appreciate that. [01:57:36] And I would echo Mike. [01:57:37] Thank you. [01:57:38] If there's no further discussion, all those in favor, please signify by saying aye. [01:57:42] Aye. [01:57:43] Opposed, the like sign. [01:57:44] Next is a three-minute report from Economic Development Department. [01:57:47] Thank you very much, Mayor and City Manager. [01:57:54] I have about four items here. [01:57:59] For fiscal year 2017, the Business Incentive Grant, as of this point, we finalized 11 grant
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2016 Stormwater Lining Project Close Out
Brief mention at the tail end discussing the commercial facade/matching grant program statistics (3 applications, $400K induced capital; 19 in process, $1.57M) and tracking of CRA legislation (HB 13, SB 1770). The actual stormwater lining project close out content is not present in this transcript excerpt.
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[01:58:05] applications this year totaling $400,000 in induced capital with $52,000 in matching grant [01:58:12] funds. [01:58:13] We have 19 applications that are classified as work in process totaling $1.57 million [01:58:20] in induced capital that would be matched with approximately $215,000 in grant funds. [01:58:27] Additionally, I think this program is highly effective in the fact that one of the things [01:58:32] we've tried to do in economic development is open up the supply chain and really try [01:58:36] to access to realtors who try to promote the city. [01:58:40] For example, today, my phone rang, and it was an individual who was looking to utilize [01:58:44] the grant program to purchase a building in town that probably should be purchased. [01:58:49] And so we're really excited about this program and think it's highly effective in terms of [01:58:56] bringing people into the room so we have good discussions with them of making investments [01:58:59] in our private sector infrastructure. [01:59:03] Been following very closely the CRA legislative status. [01:59:06] We've been reading that bill constantly. [01:59:08] As of yesterday at 5 p.m., neither House Bill 13 or Senate Bill 1770 are moving. [01:59:15] The 1770 actually was voted down in the Transportation Committee, and they have until May 5th to [01:59:23] kind of get this out. [01:59:25] The thing that probably is most concerning there is that House Bill 13 requires a supermajority vote [01:59:30] in order for a CRA to continue to exist. [01:59:34] Been following the language very closely.
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Recreation and Aquatic Center - 90 Days of Summer Membership Sale
discussedDespite the agenda title referencing the Recreation and Aquatic Center summer membership sale, the transcript covers CRA reporting, Hacienda Hotel grant updates and carpentry work, Friends of the Hacienda donations, and a request from the Deputy Mayor to schedule a workshop on the volume and type of events held at Sims Park.
- direction:Council direction to schedule a workshop to discuss the types and volume of events held at Sims Park. (none)
Bank Street doorsSims ParkBenner AssociatesDepartment of Historic ResourcesFriends of the HaciendaGreater New Port Richey Main StreetNew Trinity RotaryCouncilman DavisCouncilman PhillipsJose CardenasJudyMs. Mance2017 historic preservation grant2018 Small Matching Grant2018 Special Category grantBike WeekCRA plan updateChasco FiestaHacienda Hotel rehabilitationNational Wellness Month proclamation▶ Jump to 1:59:36 in the videoShow transcriptHide transcript
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[01:59:36] It's been trimmed down and modified quite a bit, and I have real confidence in the fact that [01:59:42] the CRA will be very complementing requirements there. [01:59:46] I think there's going to be about 13 reporting standards, but at this point in time, [01:59:50] the legislation has not passed, and we'll be watching that closely. [01:59:54] On the Hacienda front, we've submitted to the 2018 Small Matching Grant. [02:00:00] that's a year from now. Right now we're looking at July funding for the 2017, so [02:00:04] we're actually a year out looking at our second round of grant funding is what [02:00:08] we're working. That's how much of a lead time that is required and we've [02:00:12] submitted that. On May 15th, the 2018 Special Category grant application [02:00:18] period opens again and we'll be trying to pursue that. The carpentry work is [02:00:25] expected to begin next week on the balconies and the Bank Street doors. The [02:00:28] reason why it didn't start sooner was the carpenters out on this honeymoon in [02:00:32] Italy and we'll be back to work. And so the the the general contra deal Porter [02:00:40] really tries to line everybody up so they can get things done appropriately [02:00:44] and this is the next phase there and so we're anxious to try to get that started [02:00:49] also. We're actually still waiting the July 1st legislative budget approval [02:00:55] historic preservation grant submitted and approved in 2016, so we'll be [02:00:59] watching that closely. Those are the two Special Category grants that have been [02:01:02] approved. They're ranked very high, the big one ranking eighth out of 51 grant [02:01:08] submissions, so that would be the windows and door portion of that. And the last [02:01:13] thing is hopefully on Monday we'll have the completion of the scope of work for [02:01:17] the CRA plan update and be trying to proceed on that shortly. Thank [02:01:21] you very much. Thank you. Next we have communications and reports. Councilman [02:01:28] Davis. I just have one question. I happen to notice that the donations to the [02:01:37] Friends of the Hacienda is setting at $20,000. Are they going to spend the $20,000 [02:01:41] or they wait until it gets up higher because it seemed like they have [02:01:43] different funding levels in their church. They're going to spend $20,000. One of the [02:01:48] things that, the first project would be the construction of the historic wall [02:01:52] and Benner Associates had to submit to the Department of Historic Resources for [02:01:57] approval on that. As soon as they get approval on that, we're going to be [02:02:00] trying to pull some bids to see what that costs and see if this funding is [02:02:03] sufficient for that, but no, that would be the first project. They wouldn't, we [02:02:08] won't be waiting to build upon it. We'll try to move forward as quickly as [02:02:11] possible once we hear back from DHS. I have nothing else. Thank you very much. [02:02:21] Deputy Mayor. More communications or questions? Both, to start with. Thank you, Mayor. [02:02:26] Any questions you got? Communications? No, just communications. Did you want to go? I apologize, I [02:02:32] thought you were asking about the response. I just wanted to clarify one [02:02:36] thing, I'm sorry. Earlier in the meeting, I think it was the first part of the [02:02:39] meeting, when we talked about the proclamations that were made. I apologize, [02:02:45] I know it says Americans, I mean Women's Lung Month. I was referring to National [02:02:51] Wellness Month, so I just wanted to clarify that. Thank you. I promise I'm [02:02:59] going to do a better job on the clock for now and I'm so used to writing the [02:03:02] person's name as they come up and then starting to write notes and I've just, [02:03:06] that was an absolute failure on the clock this evening, so I'm going to work [02:03:09] diligently to do better from here on out. And I brought this up, Judy, I know this is [02:03:15] very close to your heart being so involved throughout the years with [02:03:18] Greater Newport to Main Street. I'd like to have a discussion, not right away. We [02:03:24] have a beautiful park. Sims Park is awesome. I love it. I love that people [02:03:29] want to have events there, but I really think we need to sit down with people [02:03:33] that are having events there with council, have a laid-back work session on [02:03:37] it, and talk about what's best for the residents of New Port Richey and Sims [02:03:43] Park, because the parks, Councilman Phillips has brought it up before, it's [02:03:47] taking a beating. I mean it really, really is. I'm not saying I don't want to hold [02:03:51] Chasco in the park, I'm not saying the Bike Week is not welcome, not going there [02:03:55] at all right now, but I'm all about quality, not quantity, and I'd like to see, [02:04:00] yeah, people ask me all the time here, are they gonna have that wine tasting and [02:04:03] the craft beer down by the river like they did last year? I said, I wish we [02:04:06] could. That was just the new Trinity Rotary members, they are in charge of [02:04:10] doing a fundraiser every year, and Jose Cardenas is going to put that [02:04:13] together. Those, I'd like to see more events like that, smaller events that are [02:04:20] going to want, that are going to attract people, not just to come here from all [02:04:23] over the county and surrounding areas to come to the park and then leave, but [02:04:27] they're going to attract people that want to live here and have cool events [02:04:31] like that in the park. It's a very, very broad discussion we need to have, and I'm [02:04:35] not making any allegations as to what I want, what I don't want, what I think is [02:04:39] best, but what I am saying right now is that we're having a lot of large events [02:04:45] in the park throughout the year, and there's more people lining up wanting to [02:04:47] do it, and it's not a fairground. We have a great concert venue, we're [02:04:53] gonna have two screens, I'm all about having concerts and whatnot, but I think [02:04:56] we need to look at maybe some smaller, higher quality events that's more geared [02:05:00] towards the residents of New Port Richey, and outside people that want to come as [02:05:04] well, but I can't come up with a better comparison, but like I said, it's not, it [02:05:09] shouldn't be a fairground for nonprofits to raise money, and that, and that'd be [02:05:14] the primary goal. I don't think that's fair to the, to the residents of New Port Richey, so I just think we need to have the discussion and talk about some [02:05:21] options, and what we, what type of events we want to see in Sims Park going [02:05:25] forward, because we did a phenomenal job in the park, and it's attracting a lot of [02:05:29] people that want to have events there, and it's great having events there, but [02:05:32] it needs time to breathe, to take a quote from from Councilman Phillips, and I'd [02:05:37] like to see some different type of events in the park. Me personally, I'm not [02:05:41] going to impose my opinion on anybody and say this is what we're going to do, I [02:05:44] want everybody's opinion, residents, people that put on events, council [02:05:48] members, staff, it's something I'd like to do though in the last, next six months or [02:05:53] so, and sit down and get everyone's input on what type of events we want to see in [02:05:57] the park, how can we have events where we're not having to replace grass in the, [02:06:01] in the park, and just go from there, and see what people think, and, and just open [02:06:06] up for discussion, and if everyone says, no, I'm happy with the way it's going [02:06:09] right now, then that's fine, but I just think it's worth having the discussion. I [02:06:13] would concur, Ms. Mance, if we can schedule a workshop to sit down and kick [02:06:19] that around, it's, it's an, it's an issue that needs to be addressed. We touched on
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Board Re-Appointment: Louis Parrillo, Land Development Review Board
discussedCouncil discussion touched on the Seafood Festival as a fundraiser for New Port Richey Main Street, noting it did not take advantage of the river or Greenway features, and concerns were raised about turf damage in the concert circle from back-to-back large events. The transcript excerpt does not actually address the Parrillo board re-appointment.
New Port Richey Main StreetDeBella-ThomasLouis ParrilloMs. DaisyGreenwayLand Development Review BoardSeafood Festivalconcert circle▶ Jump to 2:06:24 in the videoShow transcriptHide transcript
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[02:06:24] it very briefly during the work session before Councilman DeBella-Thomas got [02:06:31] there, which was, pointed out that we had a seafood festival that, with the [02:06:38] exception of Ms. Daisy, had precious little to do with the river, and I think [02:06:44] it's, it's a valid point to the extent that the seafood festival is a fundraising [02:06:48] event for the New Port Richey Main Street, that's all well and good, but it [02:06:54] did not take advantage of some of the, the features of the park, of our Greenway [02:07:02] that goes right past it, and we probably do need to have that discussion and kick [02:07:07] around where we're all sitting together and figure out, you know, what, what makes [02:07:12] sense. I am as concerned as both my colleagues are about the, the, the damage [02:07:19] that is being done by the fact that we've got some very large events that [02:07:27] are back-to-back, and the, the grass is, quite frankly, almost non-existent in the [02:07:36] concert circle right now as a result. You know, it was bad enough we had nine days
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Three Minute Report: Economic Development Department
discussedCouncil discussed concerns about overuse of Sims Park causing damage to grass from large back-to-back events like Chasco, suggesting either building sod replacement into rental costs or encouraging events at less-used areas. The City Manager also formally introduced Adam Darling, who will be pinned as Deputy Chief of the Fire Department at the next meeting.
- direction:Council directed that a future discussion be scheduled regarding park usage, sod replacement costs, and event policies at Sims Park. (none)
Grape ReserveAdam DarlingElaineMs. MannsBanned Books ConcertChasco FiestaFire Department Deputy Chief promotionLittle AmphitheaterSims ParkWine and Cheese event▶ Jump to 2:07:40 in the videoShow transcriptHide transcript
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[02:07:41] of Chasco where people were on it basically continuous, but then almost [02:07:47] immediately we come into a whole other series of events, and there's no [02:07:52] recovery time. So unless we are willing to build into the cost of renting the [02:07:59] park out, the replacement of a whole bunch of sod on a regular basis, then I [02:08:05] think we do need to have that discussion, because it's just, it's not fair to have [02:08:11] a beautiful park and then turn major portions of it into a sandlot, because [02:08:17] we're, we're over utilizing it for some very large, large events. And, you know, [02:08:24] the, not picking on the, the library, but we had the banned books concert, which was [02:08:31] supposed to be down in the Little Amphitheater by the bridge, which doesn't [02:08:36] get used much at all, and then this past month we had it in the concert circle, [02:08:41] which, you know, was, was, the band was thrilled, but that was one more day that [02:08:47] we had people all over grass that hadn't recovered yet. So yeah, let's, let's get [02:08:53] that set out so we can, we can chat about it, and look at some of the other things [02:08:58] that maybe we ought to be encouraging. I, I did like the wine and cheese event. [02:09:03] That was, that was pretty cool, and it was down by the river, so again, it wasn't [02:09:08] using the parts of the park that were, were being abused by some of the other [02:09:14] events. We do have an event in the park Saturday, but it's a different park. It's [02:09:22] at the Grape Reserve, and I will be there, Elaine. That sounds like a fun event, and [02:09:27] would encourage everybody in attendance, including my colleagues, to plan on [02:09:33] showing for that. If there's anything else for us, Ms. Manns? [02:09:40] I would like to take an opportunity to formally introduce to you Adam Darling, [02:09:49] who is here this evening serving in the capacity of Deputy Chief of the Fire [02:09:53] Department. It's certainly an honor and a privilege whenever we can promote one of [02:09:58] our own. In the case of Mr. Darling, it's a source of particular pride for me, as [02:10:07] he's a hard-working, very devoted, talented, and well-deserved [02:10:12] advancer in the organization, and we are pleased to have him on board at your [02:10:21] next meeting. We'll formally pin him as Deputy Chief, but tonight he got to sit [02:10:27] in on behalf of the Chief, and it's a pleasure to have him on board. [02:10:30] Very well. Welcome, Adam. Welcome aboard. If there's no further business on the [02:10:35] regular City Council agenda, I would entertain a motion to adjourn.
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