Council tabled a refuse collection overhaul (Ordinance 2017-2111) adding Wednesday recycling pickup, but passed first reading on impounded-vehicle rules (Ordinance 2017-2113).
23 items on the agenda · 23 decisions recorded
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- 1Call to Order – Roll Call▶ 0:00
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Pledge of Allegiance
Pledge of Allegiance and a moment of silence in honor of servicemen and women.
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[00:00:24] I would ask that everybody stand, join me in the Pledge of Allegiance, and remain standing [00:00:25] for a moment of silence in honor of our servicemen and women at home and abroad. [00:00:30] I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for [00:00:36] which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
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Moment of Silence
The council recited the Pledge of Allegiance and observed a moment of silence in honor of servicemen and women at home and abroad.
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[00:00:24] I would ask that everybody stand, join me in the Pledge of Allegiance, and remain standing [00:00:25] for a moment of silence in honor of our servicemen and women at home and abroad. [00:00:30] I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for [00:00:36] which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
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Approval of March 7, 2017 Regular Meeting Minutes
Council took up approval of the March 7, 2017 regular meeting minutes.
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[00:00:49] Thank you. [00:00:50] You may be seated. [00:00:51] The first item of business is approval of the March 7th regular meeting minutes.
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Proclamation - Eva Franco
approvedMayor Rob Marlowe presented a proclamation recognizing Eva Franco of Franco Motorsports for organizing a volunteer cleanup of the Woodrow Gay property and two adjacent properties off Pine Hill Road on February 18, 2017. Volunteers from across West Pasco spent over eight hours removing trash and clearing brush.
- vote:Motion to approve (preceding agenda item, likely the agenda/minutes). (passed)
Woodrow Gay property, along with two adjacent properties off Pine Hill RoadFranco MotorsportsElaineEva FrancoRob MarloweWoodrow GayVolunteer cleanup event February 18, 2017West Pasco▶ Jump to 1:08 in the videoShow transcriptHide transcript
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[00:01:08] Move for approval. [00:01:09] Second. [00:01:10] We have a motion and a second. [00:01:13] Any discussion? [00:01:14] Hearing none, all those please signify by saying aye. [00:01:17] Aye. [00:01:18] Opposed? [00:01:19] Like sign. [00:01:20] The motion passes. [00:01:21] Next is proclamations, and I believe I sent all the proclamations back to you instead [00:01:25] of doing what I was supposed to, I think. [00:01:46] First proclamation, I'd like to have Ava Franco meet me at the podium. [00:02:08] Mr. Mayor, we have a few photos we can show as well. [00:02:11] Oh, okay. [00:02:12] And just to begin, I ask that this item be on the agenda this evening as Mrs. Franco [00:02:18] has demonstrated great community stewardship. [00:02:22] We'd like to show you a few photos that were taken at a site adjacent to her property, [00:02:29] which became quite an eyesore, and she took it upon herself, as you'll note in the resolution, [00:02:38] to amass a group of volunteers to clean up the site, and it's on Pine Hill Road. [00:02:50] We'd like to thank her. [00:03:02] Let me, first of all, read the proclamation for you. [00:03:25] Whereas the City of New Port Richey is grateful for its numerous volunteers upon whom the city [00:03:29] is dependent and who strive to make New Port Richey a desirable place for all citizens and visitors, [00:03:35] and whereas it is imperative that the city recognize all volunteers and encourage others [00:03:39] to follow their example, and whereas Eva Franco, on behalf of Franco Motorsports, approached [00:03:45] the city with an offer to organize a cleanup of the Woodrow Gay property, along with two [00:03:50] adjacent properties off Pine Hill Road, after an overwhelming amount of trash and debris [00:03:55] had accumulated, and whereas Eva Franco spent countless hours of hard work planning, securing, [00:04:01] other sponsors, and organizing volunteers for the cleanup event, and whereas on February [00:04:06] 18th, 2017, volunteers from all over West Pasco joined together for an overwhelming [00:04:12] show of support to participate in the cleanup, and whereas the volunteers spent over eight [00:04:17] hours removing trash and clearing the property of excess tree and brush growth, now therefore [00:04:22] I, Rob Marlow, Mayor of the City of New Port Richey, do hereby recognize Eva Franco for her tireless [00:04:28] efforts in organizing the cleanup event, and further commend all of the volunteers who [00:04:33] contributed their time and talents to help clean up Mr. Gay's property and the two adjacent [00:04:38] properties. [00:04:39] Thank you very much. [00:04:40] Thank you. [00:04:41] Thank you. [00:04:42] And if we could have... [00:04:43] It's a team effort. [00:04:51] And also, if you'd like to say a few words, that can be done, too. [00:04:56] Elaine, why don't you grab their camera, please? [00:04:58] Well, I just want to thank everyone for helping out, because it really did make a difference. [00:05:02] Use the microphone so people at home can hear you. [00:05:04] These are some of the people? [00:05:05] Yes. [00:05:06] Spin that around. [00:05:09] This is... [00:05:10] These are just some of the people that helped out, and I just really appreciate them. [00:05:14] I hope we can continue to clean up Pasco County. [00:05:18] So thank you very much for allowing me to come here. [00:05:21] Thank you. [00:05:22] Stay there. [00:05:23] Elaine's going to take your picture. [00:05:24] Sure. [00:05:25] Wow. [00:05:26] Okay. [00:05:27] Thank you. [00:05:28] One more. [00:05:29] Thank you. [00:05:30] One more. [00:05:31] Next
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Proclamation - Florida Loquat Day
approvedMayor Rob Marlow proclaimed April 8, 2017 as Florida Loquat Day in New Port Richey, encouraging residents to attend the 4th annual Florida Loquat Festival at Francis Avenue Park hosted by Ecology Florida and Friendship Farms and Fair. Mr. Tietz accepted the proclamation and thanked the city and event sponsors.
- direction:Mayor proclaimed April 8, 2017 as Florida Loquat Day in New Port Richey. (passed)
Francis Avenue ParkEcology FloridaFriendship Farms and FairHook Law GroupNewport Richey RotaryPeople Places IncorporatedSI ElectricSuncoast Credit UnionWright's Natural MarketDel DeschantMr. TietzRob Marlow4th Annual Florida Loquat FestivalEcology CommitteeFlorida Loquat Day▶ Jump to 6:01 in the videoShow transcriptHide transcript
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[00:06:01] I believe Mr. Tietz is here and he's going to accept this proclamation on behalf of himself [00:06:11] and his entire crew of hard workers. [00:06:15] Whereas the loquat tree is an ornamental tree that produces small yellow fruit that are [00:06:21] full of important nutrients, whereas the loquat tree, a member of the rose family, is commonly [00:06:26] mistaken for the kumquat tree, a member of the citrus family, and whereas the loquat [00:06:31] tree needs little water to thrive and can withstand the extremes of Florida's winter [00:06:35] cold and summer heat, and whereas the loquat tree can produce 100 pounds or more of fruit [00:06:41] on a given season, and whereas on April 5, 2014, Ecology Florida and Friendship Farms [00:06:49] and Fair hosted the first ever Florida Loquat Festival, an education event featuring local [00:06:55] professionals who shared the loquat's history, the importance of urban agriculture, and several [00:07:00] different ways to create loquat compotes, preserves, pies, garnishes, and other specialties [00:07:06] for tasting and sale, and whereas due to the overwhelming popularity of previous year's [00:07:11] festivals, Ecology Farm and Friendship Farms and Fair will be hosting the fourth annual [00:07:16] Florida Loquat Festival on Saturday, April 8, from 9 a.m. to 2 p.m. at Francis Avenue [00:07:22] Park. [00:07:23] Now therefore, I, Rob Marlow, Mayor of the City of New Port Richey, do hereby proclaim [00:07:27] April 8, 2017 as Florida Loquat Day in New Port Richey, and urge the residents of our community [00:07:34] to participate in the fourth annual Florida Loquat Festival and discover the great taste [00:07:39] of one of our tiniest fruits, and I have been assured by one of our Ecology Committee members, [00:07:48] Mr. Del Deschant, that he will help me find a loquat that will actually live in my front [00:07:53] yard and that will be very resistant to my best efforts to kill it, so thank you, if [00:08:02] you'd like to say a few words. [00:08:05] As Mayor Marlow said, the event which is the Florida Loquat Festival, it is the fourth [00:08:09] annual event, will be on April 8, that's two Saturdays from now, and I just want to take [00:08:14] a quick moment to thank, in addition to the City of New Port Richey, which has been very [00:08:17] supportive of the event each and every year, our premier supporter this year is the Sun [00:08:22] Coast Credit Union, and they've been really great about supporting us, they'll be out [00:08:26] there if you want to talk with them, and we also have other major supporters including [00:08:32] the Hook Law Group, and the New Port Richey Rotary, as well as Rights Natural Market, [00:08:38] People Places Incorporated, and SI Electric, and we have some flyers out on the podium [00:08:43] outside if you'd like some, and I also have some to pass out if you'd like any, and we [00:08:46] do have some posters if you have a business or somewhere you'd like to post those, but [00:08:49] hopefully we'll see you in a couple of Saturdays out and come out and try a Loquat if you never [00:08:53] have before, thank you.
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Proclamation - Water Conservation Month
approvedThe Mayor read by title only a proclamation designating April as Water Conservation Month in the City of New Port Richey, at the request of Tampa Bay Water. The proclamation will be sent on to Tampa Bay Water.
- direction:Designate April as Water Conservation Month in the City of New Port Richey and forward the proclamation to Tampa Bay Water. (passed)
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[00:09:05] The last one I have is by a proclamation by title only, Water Conservation Month, at the [00:09:11] behest of the Tampa Bay Water, which I am on the board of directors of, we have been [00:09:17] requested to designate April as Water Conservation Month in the City of New Port Richey, and [00:09:23] we are going to do so, and we will send this on to Tampa Bay Water, thank you.
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- 8Vox Pop for Items Not Listed on the Agenda or Listed on Consent Agenda▶ 9:40
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Library Advisory Board Minutes - November 2016 through January 2017
approvedon consentThe Library Advisory Board minutes were approved as part of the consent agenda. During discussion, a councilmember requested that financial advisors from the Police Pension Board be invited to the April 4th meeting to brief council on upcoming decisions, fund assumptions, and recommendations.
- motion:Approve the consent agenda, including the Library Advisory Board minutes from November 2016 through January 2017. (passed)
- direction:Staff directed to invite the Police Pension Board's financial advisors/consultants to the April 4th council meeting. (none)
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[00:15:00] Seeing no one else come forward, I'll close Vox Pop and we'll go on to the consent agenda. [00:15:05] Move for approval. [00:15:07] Second. [00:15:07] We have a motion and a second. [00:15:08] Any discussion? [00:15:10] Yes, sir. [00:15:10] Ms. Manns, can you please do your best to see if we could have the financial advisors [00:15:19] from the Police Pension Board at our April 4th meeting, please? [00:15:24] I will extend an invitation to the consultants, yes. [00:15:27] If you would, because they have some upcoming decisions on that board. [00:15:32] And I, when it comes to money elements, as well as some assumptions that are being made [00:15:41] and some recommendations that have been made to that board, [00:15:45] and this is my fourth time talking about it since last fall. [00:15:50] And the present value in that fund is $24.2 million as of 12-31-06. [00:15:59] And they've done a fine job in managing it and bringing it back from where it was [00:16:05] when we first started in 2012, Mr. Mayor. [00:16:09] I just want to make sure that we're all informed and what that pension board does, [00:16:17] as well as in conjunction with the city and the city council. [00:16:21] Because any shortfalls has been relayed over and over again. [00:16:26] We have to make up the difference. [00:16:28] And it's on experience, on what's happening. [00:16:30] There was a consolidation of their board or their financial people last year. [00:16:36] They're two companies merged into one. [00:16:38] And I want to make sure that exactly where we are, and they have been asked [00:16:44] by their financial folks a couple of times recently to make some, you know, [00:16:52] transfers of some equity and some other things, as well as at the last meeting, [00:16:57] there was discussion about their Johnny Cash Fund and about putting [00:17:02] that into a bank account and some other things. [00:17:04] I really am not up to date on what their Johnny Cash Fund is and what the net benefits are. [00:17:11] I know that Ms. Feast made some comments at that meeting. [00:17:16] So before their next meeting, because they've been asked to make some decisions, [00:17:21] I just would like to make sure from my board position on the city council [00:17:27] that I kind of understand what's going on. [00:17:29] Like I said, they've done a nice job as a board. [00:17:32] They have great passion on there. [00:17:34] I'm just wanting to make sure, due to the fact that we have ultimate responsibility [00:17:40] for those funds and taking care of our law enforcement officers that are retired, [00:17:46] the ones that are still working, and the ones that are accumulating an obligation [00:17:52] that we are required and have put into place long-term for our city employees. [00:18:00] Thank you. [00:18:02] If there's no other discussion, all those in favor of approving the consent agenda, [00:18:05] please signify by saying aye. [00:18:07] Aye. Aye. [00:18:08] Opposed, like sign. [00:18:09] Next is public reading of ordinances.
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Police Pension Board Minutes - January 24, 2017
approvedon consentCouncil approved the Police Pension Board minutes as part of the consent agenda. A councilmember requested that the Police Pension Board's financial advisors/consultants be invited to the April 4th council meeting to brief council on upcoming decisions, fund assumptions, and recommendations, noting the fund's present value of $24.2 million.
- motion:Approve the consent agenda, which included the Police Pension Board minutes of January 24, 2017. (passed)
- direction:Staff directed to invite the Police Pension Board's financial consultants to the April 4th council meeting. (none)
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[00:15:00] Seeing no one else come forward, I'll close Vox Pop and we'll go on to the consent agenda. [00:15:05] Move for approval. [00:15:07] Second. [00:15:07] We have a motion and a second. [00:15:08] Any discussion? [00:15:10] Yes, sir. [00:15:10] Ms. Manns, can you please do your best to see if we could have the financial advisors [00:15:19] from the Police Pension Board at our April 4th meeting, please? [00:15:24] I will extend an invitation to the consultants, yes. [00:15:27] If you would, because they have some upcoming decisions on that board. [00:15:32] And I, when it comes to money elements, as well as some assumptions that are being made [00:15:41] and some recommendations that have been made to that board, [00:15:45] and this is my fourth time talking about it since last fall. [00:15:50] And the present value in that fund is $24.2 million as of 12-31-06. [00:15:59] And they've done a fine job in managing it and bringing it back from where it was [00:16:05] when we first started in 2012, Mr. Mayor. [00:16:09] I just want to make sure that we're all informed and what that pension board does, [00:16:17] as well as in conjunction with the city and the city council. [00:16:21] Because any shortfalls has been relayed over and over again. [00:16:26] We have to make up the difference. [00:16:28] And it's on experience, on what's happening. [00:16:30] There was a consolidation of their board or their financial people last year. [00:16:36] They're two companies merged into one. [00:16:38] And I want to make sure that exactly where we are, and they have been asked [00:16:44] by their financial folks a couple of times recently to make some, you know, [00:16:52] transfers of some equity and some other things, as well as at the last meeting, [00:16:57] there was discussion about their Johnny Cash Fund and about putting [00:17:02] that into a bank account and some other things. [00:17:04] I really am not up to date on what their Johnny Cash Fund is and what the net benefits are. [00:17:11] I know that Ms. Feast made some comments at that meeting. [00:17:16] So before their next meeting, because they've been asked to make some decisions, [00:17:21] I just would like to make sure from my board position on the city council [00:17:27] that I kind of understand what's going on. [00:17:29] Like I said, they've done a nice job as a board. [00:17:32] They have great passion on there. [00:17:34] I'm just wanting to make sure, due to the fact that we have ultimate responsibility [00:17:40] for those funds and taking care of our law enforcement officers that are retired, [00:17:46] the ones that are still working, and the ones that are accumulating an obligation [00:17:52] that we are required and have put into place long-term for our city employees. [00:18:00] Thank you. [00:18:02] If there's no other discussion, all those in favor of approving the consent agenda, [00:18:05] please signify by saying aye. [00:18:07] Aye. Aye. [00:18:08] Opposed, like sign. [00:18:09] Next is public reading of ordinances.
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Purchases/Payments for City Council Approval
approvedon consentCouncil approved the consent agenda. Prior to the vote, a councilmember requested that the financial advisors/consultants from the Police Pension Board be invited to the April 4th council meeting to brief the council on pending decisions, fund assumptions, and recent recommendations, noting the fund's present value is $24.2 million as of 12-31-16.
- vote:Motion to approve the consent agenda. (passed)
- direction:Direction to staff (Ms. Manns) to invite the Police Pension Board's financial consultants to the April 4th council meeting. (none)
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[00:15:00] Seeing no one else come forward, I'll close Vox Pop and we'll go on to the consent agenda. [00:15:05] Move for approval. [00:15:07] Second. [00:15:07] We have a motion and a second. [00:15:08] Any discussion? [00:15:10] Yes, sir. [00:15:10] Ms. Manns, can you please do your best to see if we could have the financial advisors [00:15:19] from the Police Pension Board at our April 4th meeting, please? [00:15:24] I will extend an invitation to the consultants, yes. [00:15:27] If you would, because they have some upcoming decisions on that board. [00:15:32] And I, when it comes to money elements, as well as some assumptions that are being made [00:15:41] and some recommendations that have been made to that board, [00:15:45] and this is my fourth time talking about it since last fall. [00:15:50] And the present value in that fund is $24.2 million as of 12-31-06. [00:15:59] And they've done a fine job in managing it and bringing it back from where it was [00:16:05] when we first started in 2012, Mr. Mayor. [00:16:09] I just want to make sure that we're all informed and what that pension board does, [00:16:17] as well as in conjunction with the city and the city council. [00:16:21] Because any shortfalls has been relayed over and over again. [00:16:26] We have to make up the difference. [00:16:28] And it's on experience, on what's happening. [00:16:30] There was a consolidation of their board or their financial people last year. [00:16:36] They're two companies merged into one. [00:16:38] And I want to make sure that exactly where we are, and they have been asked [00:16:44] by their financial folks a couple of times recently to make some, you know, [00:16:52] transfers of some equity and some other things, as well as at the last meeting, [00:16:57] there was discussion about their Johnny Cash Fund and about putting [00:17:02] that into a bank account and some other things. [00:17:04] I really am not up to date on what their Johnny Cash Fund is and what the net benefits are. [00:17:11] I know that Ms. Feast made some comments at that meeting. [00:17:16] So before their next meeting, because they've been asked to make some decisions, [00:17:21] I just would like to make sure from my board position on the city council [00:17:27] that I kind of understand what's going on. [00:17:29] Like I said, they've done a nice job as a board. [00:17:32] They have great passion on there. [00:17:34] I'm just wanting to make sure, due to the fact that we have ultimate responsibility [00:17:40] for those funds and taking care of our law enforcement officers that are retired, [00:17:46] the ones that are still working, and the ones that are accumulating an obligation [00:17:52] that we are required and have put into place long-term for our city employees. [00:18:00] Thank you. [00:18:02] If there's no other discussion, all those in favor of approving the consent agenda, [00:18:05] please signify by saying aye. [00:18:07] Aye. Aye. [00:18:08] Opposed, like sign. [00:18:09] Next is public reading of ordinances.
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First Reading, Ordinance No. 2017-2111: Refuse Collection Services
tabledCouncil considered a first reading of Ordinance 2017-2111 amending refuse collection sections 10-24 and 10-25, which would add a third pickup day for recycling (Wednesday), set commercial/multi-family pickup hours (6 a.m.–7 p.m.), require quarterly vendor reporting, and require all residential properties to subscribe to refuse service. After concerns about enforcement, a third day of trash cans, and landlord responsibility, the item was tabled to the next meeting for further fact-gathering.
Ord. Ordinance No. 2017-2111
- motion:Motion to table Ordinance 2017-2111 to the next meeting for further fact-gathering. (passed)
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[00:18:12] First reading of Refuse Collection Services 2017-2111. [00:18:17] Item number 2017-2111, an ordinance of the city of New Port Richey, Florida, [00:18:23] providing for the amendment of sections 1024 and 1025 of the New Port Richey Code [00:18:27] of Ordinances pertaining to duties of garbage collectors and customers and the hours and days [00:18:32] of garbage collection in the city, providing for required garbage collection agreements [00:18:36] and reporting thereof, providing for an additional day of garbage collection in the city, [00:18:41] providing for conflict severability, and an effective date. [00:18:44] And Mr. Mayor, I'd like to point out that you have a revised ordinance in front of you, [00:18:48] and the two revisions that were required was one was the addition of occupant [00:18:57] in the reporting requirements for the vendors that had been inadvertently left [00:19:01] out of the prior version that you received, and the other is to provide for hours of collection [00:19:05] in the commercial and multi-family residential areas, which is not currently provided in our code. [00:19:10] I'm sorry, in addition, do we have some additional information? [00:19:18] One item. [00:19:18] Okay. [00:19:19] In addition to the changes outlined by the city attorney, we are also requiring, [00:19:25] as part of this ordinance, that all residential properties located [00:19:28] within the city subscribe to a refuse removal service. [00:19:33] Thank you. [00:19:35] I'm going to open this up for public comment. [00:19:37] Anybody in the audience wish to address council on this matter? [00:19:44] Seeing no one, come forward and bring it back to council. [00:19:46] Let me ask a question. [00:19:47] Regarding the last caveat that you just mentioned, as far as everybody, whether you're renting [00:19:55] or owning a home in the city, is going to be required to have some kind [00:19:59] of disposal service for their garbage, how are we going to enforce that? [00:20:03] I can't even imagine how we would... [00:20:05] I mean, I think I'm not against the idea, but... [00:20:09] It is something that would be handled principally by the ordinance officers [00:20:14] and through the rental inspection staff, whom we'll ask at the time [00:20:19] of inspection to verify that a service is in place. [00:20:25] And one of the provisions of the ordinance is that the vendors have to report [00:20:29] to the city quarterly who their customers are. [00:20:32] So we should be able to use those lists to determine if there's a property [00:20:37] that is not on any vendor's list. [00:20:43] I agree with Mr. Charky, I don't know how you police it. [00:20:47] You've got issues in the insurance industry very similar to this. [00:20:51] They get insurance for a month, it goes away, comes back again. [00:20:56] Some of the homes may be vacant, then you're still requiring the landlord [00:21:01] to carry garbage service even when the home isn't being occupied. [00:21:07] So, like I said, your policing mechanism would be interesting, and you can set those hours. [00:21:17] I just would like a better verification on commercial and multifamily areas in New Port Richey. [00:21:26] Because of our poor development pattern, what defines multifamily? [00:21:31] We've got duplexes, triplexes on a majority of the streets. [00:21:41] And it's nice to tell them they can't start until 6, but I can sure tell you at 515 [00:21:48] in the morning at Gulf Middle School, they're pounding the bejesus [00:21:53] out of that dumpster, getting it in the middle of the night. [00:21:56] So, you know, I just, you know, it's nice to put it in an ordinance, [00:22:05] but policing that is always going to be, it's always been tough. [00:22:11] Councilman Davis. [00:22:12] I'd just like to take another look at this ordinance too, but in a different light. [00:22:19] We've done a lot of work with ordinances to try to clean up some neighborhoods [00:22:25] and, you know, their houses and the way they look. [00:22:28] And I think offering two days a week of trash pickup is sufficient. [00:22:32] I don't really want to see trash cans out three days a week, you know. [00:22:36] And then if somebody puts them out to pick up their, you know, collectibles, their recyclables, [00:22:41] and then we've got trash cans out a third day, and this is supposedly one [00:22:44] of the larger customers in town, and I've already talked to Ms. Manns [00:22:51] about we have a collection problem on the front end with them paying their 10% [00:22:57] or 15%, wherever we are, 10% to 15%. [00:23:00] So I just think we need to look at this again, and I don't really want three days [00:23:04] of trash cans sitting on my street. [00:23:06] Just so I'm clear on your point, you're talking about the recycled pickup [00:23:12] on Wednesday that we're adding? [00:23:13] Yes. [00:23:14] You'd rather them do it on one of the days where they're picking up trash already? [00:23:16] Why are we benefiting one company over the other four? [00:23:21] Do the other companies want to pick up recyclables? [00:23:23] Well, they already do, and they pick up either, you know, one of them I know picks [00:23:27] up every Thursday with normal pickup, and another one picks up every other Thursday. [00:23:32] So that's two of them that I know they're, you know, adjusted their schedule. [00:23:35] So I don't really think that we need to go out of our way [00:23:37] to have another set of trash cans up there. [00:23:39] A third day. [00:23:40] With the largest, and I think you said they're the largest commercial, [00:23:46] you know, garbage disposal in the town. [00:23:48] So I just don't see us bending over for them. [00:23:52] Two days is enough of trash cans. [00:23:53] Thank you. [00:23:54] Councilwoman? [00:23:55] Yeah, well, I think that is the issue because they have the largest collection in the city. [00:24:01] The other trash haulers that are doing recycling are doing, are picking up less [00:24:07] because, excuse me, there are fewer clients. [00:24:12] And this actually, I believe, came to us as a result [00:24:15] of Progressive doing their due diligence, [00:24:19] recognizing that Wednesday was a recycle day that, excuse me, [00:24:24] that didn't comply with our ordinance. [00:24:29] I think that they are probably the most effective in recycling, [00:24:34] and I applaud them for their recycling efforts. [00:24:36] I think that to accommodate them for this is an accommodation for our residents as well. [00:24:44] And I think that of the companies that I've had an experience with, [00:24:50] whether it was commercial or personal, I think they do a very effective job, [00:24:54] and I think they're committed to working with the city. [00:24:58] I know that they work with several of the non-profits in the community [00:25:04] to provide refuse pickup during their events. [00:25:08] So I think that this is an accommodation that we should look to [00:25:12] and accommodate. [00:25:14] I think that encouraging people to recycle and having an effective method [00:25:20] of recycling is something that we should applaud them for. [00:25:25] In looking at this ordinance, the part that jumped out at me was the restriction [00:25:31] of the commercial pickups to between the hours of 6 a.m. and 7 p.m. [00:25:35] As recently as a week ago, I got a complaint from somebody, admittedly, [00:25:40] in the county, but in one of the condos back behind Southgate that is getting rousted [00:25:49] out of bed at 3.30, 4 o'clock in the morning when the trash pickups happen [00:25:54] on the dumpsters back behind Southgate. [00:25:56] So I think that part we need to address. [00:26:00] The other parts, I can understand where my fellow councilmen are coming from on not wanting [00:26:06] to have a third day out there, forcing them not to start [00:26:12] until 6 would help the dumpster issue at Gulf Middle too. [00:26:16] Councilman? [00:26:17] I was going to reiterate that. [00:26:19] The fine folks that own Westside Deli live downtown, [00:26:22] and they live strategically pretty much in between Main and Grand Boulevard and the hospital. [00:26:30] So they get the dumpster noise from the church across the street, from the hospital, [00:26:34] and from downtown bars and restaurants. [00:26:37] And they literally, I go there for lunch, and they ask me to please bring it [00:26:42] to the city manager's attention, which I did. [00:26:44] And I don't think either of us realized it didn't even pertain to commercial pickups. [00:26:49] Now we do, but they're getting woken up three nights a week. [00:26:52] And my question is, what's the plan of attack? [00:26:54] Are we going to just send a nice letter to these garbage companies and ask them not to do it? [00:26:59] And then if they continue to do it, are we going to pull them over [00:27:01] and give them a ticket, or what's the plan? [00:27:03] In response to your question, Councilman Starkey, [00:27:08] the plan is to advise the waste hauling companies of the ordinance. [00:27:15] If you determine that it's appropriate and a second reading occurs, [00:27:20] at which time they will be advised of the pickup times. [00:27:26] If there is a complaint after that time, then we would follow up and issue tickets. [00:27:33] So it's my understanding that we were not addressing commercial in our ordinance, [00:27:39] and that's why we're doing this now. [00:27:41] That's correct, Councilwoman. [00:27:45] The other thing that we aren't addressing in the ordinance that I've asked your consideration [00:27:49] of this evening is to establish a requirement [00:27:52] that residential properties in the city do have service. [00:27:57] What I didn't communicate to you in my writing on this matter is [00:28:03] that we have approximately 700 units of residential property in the city [00:28:08] that do not subscribe to a waste hauling service. [00:28:12] Are they occupied? [00:28:14] I cannot determine specifically how many of them are unoccupied, [00:28:18] but I'm certain that a good number of them are occupied, [00:28:23] which creates a public health and welfare and quality of life matter [00:28:30] for other residents of the community. [00:28:34] And it's one of the reasons, although not a perfect system, [00:28:38] we are requesting that you consider the requirement [00:28:41] that all residential properties maintain refuse service during times of occupancy. [00:28:47] Councilman Davis? [00:28:48] Well, could we enforce this at the time they turn their water on? [00:29:00] We could ask for evidence at that time, yes, [00:29:05] but we could not hold their water service in abeyance as a result [00:29:11] of their subscribership to a waste hauler. [00:29:15] So we could address it at the time they turn their water on, [00:29:18] and say, hey, you've got 30 days to get some kind of service. [00:29:22] We could provide public notice, and that would be helpful, I'm sure. [00:29:26] Okay. So we can approach that. [00:29:28] I mean, there's a lot of this that I like, you know, [00:29:31] but I just don't want three days of trash cans. [00:29:33] Well, one more question, if I may, to address your concern. [00:29:36] Ms. Manns, is it Progressive? [00:29:37] Is that the company that wants to do it on Wednesday or WSI? [00:29:40] Is it one of the same? [00:29:41] Progressive currently picks up recycling materials on Wednesday. [00:29:45] As I understand it, that's been the longstanding tradition in the city. [00:29:50] The purpose of the ordinance is to allow them to continue that practice absent your approval. [00:30:00] of this agenda item, they will have to reroute [00:30:03] all of their Wednesday recycling pickups. [00:30:07] So they're currently doing it, it's just not in an ordinance where we're approving them to do it? [00:30:11] That's correct. [00:30:12] I also wanted to address, [00:30:15] I think someone said something about if the properties [00:30:21] are rented and then they become [00:30:24] vacant, it's very easy to suspend [00:30:28] the service on a rental property, and I wonder if that's something that we can [00:30:32] tie into the landlord's [00:30:34] requirement when we have a landlord, the rental [00:30:37] application, that that becomes part of that, that they're able to provide that [00:30:43] their renters, making certain that their renters... [00:30:45] I agree 100 percent, it should fall back on the landlord. [00:30:48] Anything that happens at a house, if you're renting it and you're the landlord, you're responsible, [00:30:52] as far as I can see it. So I think that responsibility should fall on the landlord, [00:30:55] not the tenant. The landlord can put in their lease. If you're going to live here, you're going to have [00:30:59] garbage service. Simple. I'd like to make a motion that we table this to our next [00:31:03] meeting. I'd like a little more time [00:31:05] for some fact-gathering. [00:31:08] There's other questions that I'd like [00:31:12] to ask over and above [00:31:16] the collection side, [00:31:19] but I'd like a little more time with this because [00:31:24] obviously Wednesdays were in place with blue bags and the county went away from [00:31:28] their recycling and [00:31:29] even took their recycling facility away from the corner of the city, so we've got [00:31:35] some internal challenges, [00:31:37] and I know we have other cities around us that [00:31:40] have subscribed to having just one [00:31:44] trash carrier. I'm not advocating that, I'm just saying that [00:31:47] that's how they've dealt with the issues, so [00:31:51] I would appreciate if we could get another two weeks or so, [00:31:54] because I just think that to do this and say, oh, we'll deal with it at second reading, [00:31:59] sets up a situation where it's... [00:32:03] We've turned a blind eye to it for quite a while, so I'm [00:32:07] making a motion. We have a motion to table. You've got a second. You have a second. [00:32:10] That's non-debatable. All those in favor of tabling the ordinance
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- 10.b
First Reading, Ordinance No. 2017-2113: Amending Chapter 23 of the City Ordinances Relating to Disposition of Impounded Vehicles
approvedCouncil held first reading of Ordinance 2017-2113, amending Chapter 23 to expedite disposition of impounded vehicles, repeal sections 23-76 through 23-83, and establish an administrative fee. No public comment was received, and the motion to approve passed.
Ord. Ordinance No. 2017-2113
- motion:Motion to approve first reading of Ordinance 2017-2113 amending Chapter 23 regarding disposition of impounded vehicles. (passed)
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[00:32:15] motion, please signify by saying aye. Aye. Opposed, like sign. [00:32:19] We'll bring it back in a couple weeks. Ms. Mance? [00:32:22] Yes, sir, Mr. Mayor. Thank you. [00:32:27] Next item is first reading of Ordinance 2017-2113, amending Chapter 23 of the City [00:32:33] Ordinance relating to the disposition of impounded vehicles, sir. [00:32:36] Ordinance number 2017-2113, an ordinance of the City of New Port Richey, Florida, [00:32:41] providing for the amendment of Section 23-183 of the New Port Richey Code of [00:32:45] Ordinances [00:32:46] pertaining to liens against and sale of impounded vehicles, providing for more [00:32:51] expedited disposition of said vehicles, providing for disposal of unsold vehicles, [00:32:56] providing for an administrative fee, providing for repeal of Article 4 of [00:33:00] Chapter 23, Sections 23-76 through 23-83 pertaining to removal and impoundment of [00:33:07] certain vehicles, providing for conflict, severability, and an effective date. [00:33:12] Thank you. This is a public reading. Anyone in the public that would wish to [00:33:15] comment on this, please come forward at this time. Seeing no one come forward, I'll [00:33:20] bring it back to Council. Move for approval. Second. We have a motion and a [00:33:23] second. To the maker. All you have to do is go behind those nice big walls of the [00:33:27] Police Department. You'll see why we need this. We don't even have room for [00:33:30] officers to park their cruisers. It's insane. Second. [00:33:35] Deputy Mayor? No comment. Councilman? None. In that case, all those in favor, please [00:33:41] signify by saying aye. Aye. Opposed, like sign. Motion passes. Next is an appeal of an
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- 11.a
Appeal of Order to Demolish - 6143 Cecelia Drive - Freitas Property
approvedCouncil heard an appeal of an order to demolish a dilapidated, vacant single-family home at 6143 Cecelia Drive. The property recently sold via tax deed to ARK Properties LLC, whose representative Carlos Aguado committed to repairing the structure. Council affirmed the building official's demolition determination but allowed the new owner 90 days to repair the structure with 30- and 60-day progress reports.
- motion:Affirm the building official's determination that the structure meets criteria for demolition but require the owner to repair or restore the structure within 90 days, with 30- and 60-day progress reports. (passed)
3194 Whooping Crane Run, Kissimmee, Florida6143 Cecelia Drive6149 CeciliaARK Properties LLCServProCarlos AguadoCouncilman StarkeyFrances ChamberlainJeff FreitasJudyLisa FierceMrs. SpearsMs. ManzWayne ChamberlainOrder to DemolishTanglewood Terrace subdivisionTax deed sale▶ Jump to 33:45 in the videoShow transcriptHide transcript
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[00:33:47] order to demolish 6143 Cecilia Drive. [00:33:52] Mayor, in that respect, Mrs. Spears has a PowerPoint presentation and we should [00:33:59] additionally remind you that this is a quasi-judicial hearing. Very good. [00:34:06] Thank you, Ms. Manz. So this is an appeal of an order to demolish a property and [00:34:13] the property is located at the, on the north side of Cecilia Drive, which is [00:34:19] east of Madison and west of Greenwood. It is within the Tanglewood Terrace [00:34:24] subdivision and the site contains a single-family dwelling that was built in [00:34:28] 1973. This is what the property looks like from the street. It was the subject [00:34:36] of several code enforcement cases regarding residential maintenance and it [00:34:42] has been vacant for several years. The code provides that the building official [00:34:48] must find existence of one or more of seven criteria to determine [00:34:53] whether the structure meets the slum and blighted requirements and whether it [00:34:59] should be demolished. And in this case, there was evidence of three criteria on [00:35:04] the property and they related to the unsanitary conditions, the decaying of [00:35:08] the structure, and the dilapidation of the structure. So this is the front of [00:35:15] the porch and you can see it's full of debris. The under portions of the front [00:35:21] roof are missing and there's trim that's falling. This is also part of the [00:35:27] front elevation. You can see that there are dirty walls with mold and mildew. [00:35:32] Along the west side of the structure, there's a portion of the stucco that's [00:35:39] missing and there's warped siding. Around toward the rear of the structure, I'll [00:35:46] point this one out, the roof along this portion of the structure is missing to [00:35:53] some extent and there had been a tree growing through that portion of the [00:35:57] property. Also part of the rear of the property, you can see there's an [00:36:04] abandoned jet ski. There's a tree that's fallen on the property and again you can [00:36:09] see the additional evidence of the dirty molded portion of the structure. [00:36:16] Another view of the rear of the property. This is along the northeast [00:36:22] corner of the property. Again to the rear, you can see even greater evidence of the [00:36:27] mold. Along the east elevation, there is a there's missing electrical meter. A small [00:36:37] peek inside. This is along the back of the building where the tree had been [00:36:43] growing through it. You can see all kinds of damage in the interior and there was [00:36:46] evidence of rodents having been in there. The building official posted the order [00:36:53] to demolish the property. We sent the notice to demolish to the owner and [00:36:59] interested parties and we posted the property and published it in the paper [00:37:03] for two weeks and the notice required that the owner demolish the structure by [00:37:08] March 28th, which was 60 days from the posting of the order. The then property [00:37:15] owner appealed with this application with the intent to repair the structure. [00:37:23] The appeal regulations require that the petitioner show that the structure can [00:37:28] be reconstructed and has to include a list of the work to the structure, the [00:37:33] cost and the timetable for getting the permits. All the information was [00:37:37] submitted to the staff. We felt comfortable with the applicant's ability [00:37:42] to go forward with the improvement. Since the time of the appeal, the property has [00:37:48] changed hands and it was sold in a tax deed sale. The new owner, the current [00:37:55] owner is ARK Properties LLC. Staff contacted the representative of the [00:38:04] company and we met with Mr. Carlos Aguada today to discuss the improvements [00:38:10] that he intended to make on the property. He has submitted to us today [00:38:15] evidence that he owns the property and he has submitted a new estimate which [00:38:19] includes all the work we believe necessary to improve the property. If he [00:38:25] is able to have you approve his appeal, he has committed to getting a permit [00:38:30] this week and he was requesting 60 days to perform the work. I have copies [00:38:36] of that in case you want to review that since it wasn't in your packet. [00:38:40] Council has three alternatives in this case and you can [00:38:44] either affirm, modify or reverse the order to demolish. Again, staff is [00:38:49] recommending that Council give this new property owner the time to repair the [00:38:54] structure and we're suggesting 90 days to give him a little extra time to do [00:38:59] so. He is here tonight in case you have questions for him directly. I have [00:39:04] questions for whoever sold it or owned it. It's deplorable. I don't believe he's [00:39:08] here tonight. This is a quasi-judicial hearing. The [00:39:15] owner has the first opportunity to come forward if they would like to address [00:39:19] Council on this. Is this the owner? The owner of the property. And that's correct. [00:39:33] You can give us your name and address for the record. Carlos Aguado. [00:39:41] Address is 3194 Whooping Crane Run, Kissimmee, Florida. [00:39:49] 3474641. I'm sorry. I don't know. I don't have anything to say. [00:39:59] How long have you owned the property, sir? I just bought it four days ago, five days [00:40:05] ago through the tax ease. And that's pretty much it. And now I find out that [00:40:11] this is happening. We weren't able to figure out exactly what was going to [00:40:15] happen with the property. And the same day that I got it, that's the day [00:40:21] that I was informed that I was supposed to show up today. So that's the reason [00:40:24] why I was here. And I was also informed because I came here and they [00:40:29] explained to me that I had to come up with everything and be ready with all [00:40:33] this info, which I had to bring a contractor, the one that does some work [00:40:38] for me in GEC, that does some work for me in Orlando. So we came down, we set a [00:40:43] plan. He spent the weekend, I mean, a few hours there taking a look at everything. [00:40:47] And we came up with a plan. And I explained everything to the city. And [00:40:52] it's going to look great. It's going to come up to a really nice home. [00:40:55] Quite a surprise, isn't it? You buy the tax deed. Next thing you show up, you come down and [00:41:00] welcome to New Port Richey. We completely understand that. What other, you know, [00:41:07] obviously Ms. Fierce just highlighted to us that you've probably made more [00:41:12] motion on this property in five days than we've seen since 2014, if you look [00:41:18] at the history. So thank you very much for being responsible enough to take the [00:41:24] extra time. That demonstrates a great deal. Thank you. We may, I don't know, I may [00:41:31] ask for some additional caveats to what they're asking, but I very much [00:41:35] appreciate your time. I know investors that do what you do and kind of buy [00:41:43] these homes online, kind of on the court steps, and you don't always know [00:41:47] what you're getting. Did you have any idea when you purchased this that it was [00:41:49] in this kind of condition? Well, see, the thing is that from the front, it looked [00:41:53] pretty good, very decent. So you purchased it based on a picture of the front of the house. [00:41:56] You didn't go see it or anything? Well, see, with some properties, you're able at [00:41:59] least to take a look to the property. If you see that it's completely empty, this [00:42:03] one from the outside, sometimes you see a sign that they don't remove, which I saw [00:42:07] from far away. It was when I was walking, there was a school down there, so there [00:42:11] was a lot of kids and traffic going on. So it's a little bit busy, the street, [00:42:15] like for me to just to park and be able to take a look. And then I also saw a [00:42:20] boat that it was next to the property. And then when you see things like that, [00:42:25] you don't want to take a chance and start going around the houses and you [00:42:28] never know who's inside, right, because you run into a lot of surprises. So I [00:42:32] pretty much judged it based on Google and just driving by. It looked very [00:42:37] decent, it looked just like it was cosmetic. But then I realized that when I [00:42:41] came into the property, I saw what happened in the back and yes, it was a [00:42:45] completely mess. There's no roof on the back of it basically, right? It's broken. [00:42:48] Yes, you have a big hole in there. Yeah, the photo we have, I don't even think was [00:42:51] part of your photos with the hole in the roof in the back. It's unbelievable. Thank [00:42:55] you. But then again, can I say one more thing? Okay, sure. All right, like in [00:42:59] downtown Kissimmee, we have houses that are even older and we bought them, we [00:43:04] fixed them, and they look amazing. But I'm 100% sure we can [00:43:09] really make a nice property right here. I'd like to make a proposal we give him [00:43:13] 90 days. Okay, I believe we've got some other people that want to address [00:43:16] council before we do that. I wanted to ask a question as well. Looking at the [00:43:21] pictures that we were looking at, some of them look like they're back to 2016, but [00:43:26] one of them that Ms. Fierce showed was debris in the front of that. So I'd be [00:43:33] curious to know what is your immediate, you know, what is the first thing that [00:43:37] you're going to do with that? First thing, you're going to see a huge container in the front [00:43:40] probably next week and we're going to start cleaning everything, number one [00:43:43] thing. Then right after we clean everything, we will start working on the [00:43:47] roof because the first thing you want to do is stop the water damage. You know, we [00:43:51] don't want to create any more. And then once we have that, we have done that, we [00:43:54] start finishing, removing whatever was bad, replacing it with new. And then we [00:43:59] start going through like minor details, you know, more cosmetic work after we do [00:44:03] the heavy. But it will be like, it will be just right away. It will be [00:44:08] done right away, I'm sorry. Okay, and then I just want to ask the question of the [00:44:11] building department or Lisa, whoever. So the building, is there like a defined [00:44:17] that it is repairable, that it can be repaired? I mean, it looks [00:44:22] horrific from the pictures that are on our cat. It looked even more awful than [00:44:29] what you just showed. So yeah, everything's repairable with enough [00:44:33] time and money and so we think that his estimate that he went through, there are [00:44:37] 11 pages of the estimate that he provided to us from his contractor. We [00:44:41] believe that he can fulfill the requirement to get it back to a [00:44:45] occupiable structure and we want to give him the chance to do that because we [00:44:48] don't want to use our money to take it down when he could otherwise repair it. [00:44:51] That would be our goal. And then one last question is, is there a, you know, can [00:44:58] we vet the gentleman? [00:45:00] He's done this before in Kissimmee and has done it, you know. [00:45:03] Part of it's you're going to have to take a little bit of a chance. [00:45:05] We don't know him other than our brief encounter today. [00:45:08] We did verify that he does have a licensed contractor, [00:45:13] a general contractor, as well as a roofing contractor to do the work. [00:45:17] So we are side-by-side with that. [00:45:20] And I apologize for that, but, you know, we have had folks come before us [00:45:26] and share all, you know, wonderful things and then turned out to not be so. [00:45:29] So I applaud you for what you're going to do. [00:45:32] And we're just going to hold your feet to the fire to make sure that it gets done. [00:45:35] Yes, I'm sure. [00:45:36] Thank you. [00:45:38] Thank you. [00:45:38] I believe we've got some other folks that want to address counsel on this matter [00:45:41] that are neighbors and otherwise affected parties. [00:45:52] Yes, Wayne Chamberlain. [00:45:53] We live at 6149 Cecilia, next door to the house in question. [00:45:58] And this is my wife, Frances. [00:46:00] We moved down here in 2005. [00:46:03] And Jeff Renties was our neighbor. [00:46:06] And at that time, he was living there. [00:46:10] And he said that he was going to replace the roof. [00:46:15] Hasn't been done yet. [00:46:16] It's been 12 years. [00:46:20] The house has been vacant approximately five, six years, I believe. [00:46:25] And nothing has been done to it. [00:46:27] About four years ago, three years ago, we came back from up north. [00:46:32] And there was a policeman on the property. [00:46:35] And we asked him, what's going on? [00:46:38] And apparently, the people that lived behind him broke into the house, [00:46:42] stole his kitchen cabinets, washer, dryer, et cetera, et cetera. [00:46:46] And then they had a garage sale. [00:46:48] And their neighbors called the cops and everything got settled. [00:46:51] That was the last time we'd seen Jeff. [00:46:54] Now, the house has been in limbo. [00:46:57] It's trashed inside. [00:47:00] You didn't see the pictures inside. [00:47:01] We were in there Friday, first time in I don't know how many years. [00:47:09] Anyhow, it's trashed inside. [00:47:12] But we did get this letter beginning of March from the county stating [00:47:17] that there's going to be an auction. [00:47:19] And we were delighted about that. [00:47:22] So finally, something's going to happen to the house. [00:47:26] Well, community development came there last week. [00:47:31] And we asked them what's going on. [00:47:32] And they said it was going to go to the council [00:47:34] at the end of the month about something about being demolished. [00:47:38] I said, well, the county said that it's going up for auction on the 16th. [00:47:45] Well, which it did. [00:47:46] And Carlos came over the next day. [00:47:50] Well, we didn't know him. [00:47:52] But he knocked on a door and introduced himself. [00:47:54] He said, I just purchased a house next door. [00:47:56] And he told us everything he was going to do with it. [00:47:59] And we said that it was quite bad. [00:48:01] He said, not a problem. [00:48:03] I'm going to do this, this, and this. [00:48:05] Yesterday, there was a gentleman on our roof [00:48:09] apparently checking it out to give Carlos an estimate [00:48:15] as to how much it's going to cost. [00:48:16] So something is happening. [00:48:18] And Carlos, the impression I got, probably with you, [00:48:24] is I think he's going to do it. [00:48:26] He has to do it. [00:48:27] Then community development was there yesterday [00:48:31] and said that there's a meeting tonight, which we intended, [00:48:35] so that we can express our thoughts on it. [00:48:41] Go ahead, because you want to do it. [00:48:45] I was raised on a farm. [00:48:46] And I was inside that house. [00:48:47] And I can tell you, a pigsty, chicken coop, and everything [00:48:50] was a lot better than the inside of that house. [00:48:53] I had helped Jeff a lot to get the yard cleaned up, [00:48:57] and this and that. [00:48:58] And he would be a no-show, this and that. [00:49:03] And then I called him. [00:49:04] And I said, Jeff, a limb fell through the family room. [00:49:07] There's a big hole in the roof. [00:49:09] The tar paper was hanging and everything. [00:49:12] He told me, he says, OK, this weekend, [00:49:14] I'm going to get everything, the supplies and everything. [00:49:17] And I'll be there. [00:49:18] Well, I waited and waited and waited. [00:49:19] And I said, Jeff, you've lied to me for the last time. [00:49:23] I'm not going to help you anymore, [00:49:25] because I was going to help him with the roof. [00:49:28] And that is about three to four years ago. [00:49:32] And that's how long that rain's been getting in there. [00:49:35] I am concerned about the black mold. [00:49:37] We don't know the status of it, if it's the dangerous one [00:49:42] or what. [00:49:43] And there's rat fishes in the house. [00:49:45] And like I said, our pigsty was better [00:49:48] than the inside of that house. [00:49:50] It really was. [00:49:51] All right, thank you very much. [00:49:53] Thank you. [00:49:55] Councilman Starkey. [00:49:57] Is there anyone else? [00:49:57] I'm sorry. [00:49:58] Did you have any questions for these women? [00:50:00] I don't have a question. [00:50:01] I just want to say I'm sorry. [00:50:02] You shouldn't. [00:50:04] I'm addressing both of you. [00:50:05] I'm sorry. [00:50:06] You should not have to live next door to those conditions, [00:50:08] nor should anybody that lives in the city of New Port Richey. [00:50:11] It's absolutely deplorable. [00:50:12] What disappoints me, and I'm not pointing fingers, [00:50:15] but the way the system, I guess, works [00:50:17] is these pictures are from 2015. [00:50:19] I wish Jeff was here, because I'd like to tell him [00:50:22] what I think about it. [00:50:23] It's absolutely just unacceptable. [00:50:27] I use that term a lot up here. [00:50:28] But it blows my mind that someone [00:50:31] would let a house go to deteriorate [00:50:33] to what I'm looking at here on my iPad in these photos [00:50:36] and have no thought or care for their next door neighbors [00:50:41] and people that live in the area. [00:50:43] It's one of my biggest pet peeves up here. [00:50:44] And we listen to people come up here and give us [00:50:47] excuse after excuse after excuse. [00:50:49] The mobile home's half burned down. [00:50:50] I'm going to rebuild it. [00:50:52] You deserve better. [00:50:53] And I'm sorry you've had to live with this for so long. [00:50:55] It's absolutely deplorable. [00:50:57] But I agree with you. [00:50:58] From what I've heard from Carlos, I believe Carlos. [00:51:01] I think that it's a block home. [00:51:03] I think if he gets in there and takes [00:51:05] care of the mold with ServPro or any company like that that [00:51:09] knows what they're doing and clears the house of mold, [00:51:13] feces, all that, it's a block home, new roof. [00:51:16] I think, like you said, when you look at the photo [00:51:18] from the front, it doesn't look all that bad. [00:51:20] But I think it doesn't need to be demolished if we have [00:51:26] the right person doing the work. [00:51:27] So I wish you luck. [00:51:28] And I'm going to give you 90 days once we vote as well. [00:51:31] Carlos, I mean, he seemed sincere. [00:51:36] And he's got these plans in his head. [00:51:38] And I hope he goes through them. [00:51:41] Councilman? [00:51:42] Can we request that we see progress [00:51:45] on a report on this, Lisa, prior to the full 90 days? [00:51:48] Sure can. [00:51:49] We'd be happy to provide it to you. [00:51:50] That'd be excellent. [00:51:51] Thank you. [00:51:52] It's not directly related to this specific case. [00:51:56] But I am concerned that a building like this [00:51:59] could sit in this condition for as long [00:52:02] as this particular one apparently [00:52:04] has without coming up in front of us for a demolition order. [00:52:08] Because if that hole in the roof has been there, [00:52:11] and we've had pictures of it since 2015, [00:52:13] we should have been issuing a notice to demolish in 2015, not [00:52:18] today. [00:52:24] I'll still bring my proposal. [00:52:26] I believe we are ready for a motion. [00:52:28] My motion is that we give them 90 days [00:52:30] and add Judy's comment that we'd like to see 30 day updates. [00:52:36] I'll second that. [00:52:37] We have a motion and a second. [00:52:38] Anything else to make or? [00:52:39] No, but I have a problem in the house next door to me. [00:52:43] And one thing that I can say, your neighbors were quiet. [00:52:48] That's about all. [00:52:49] Might not have been very clean, but they were quiet. [00:52:53] Councilwoman? [00:52:55] No, as I said, I know that we are [00:52:57] going to hold feet to the fire. [00:52:59] And I think your neighbors are going to probably stay [00:53:01] on top of that as well. [00:53:02] So with the 30 days, we expect to see good work [00:53:08] within that time. [00:53:09] Councilman Starkey? [00:53:10] No further comments, thank you. [00:53:11] Deputy Mayor? [00:53:12] I'm fine, Mr. Mayor. [00:53:13] Thank you. [00:53:14] Mr. Mayor, if I could just make one comment. [00:53:16] The motion is for the recommendation number two, [00:53:19] correct? [00:53:21] That's the list again. [00:53:23] To affirm the building official's determination [00:53:25] that the structure meets the criteria for demolition [00:53:27] but require the owner to repair or restore the structure [00:53:30] by obtaining the required permits [00:53:32] and completing the work, including final inspections [00:53:34] within 90 days. [00:53:35] That is correct. [00:53:36] And the addition of 30 days. [00:53:38] And the progress reports. [00:53:39] 30 and 60 days. [00:53:41] There's no further discussion. [00:53:43] All those in favor of the motion, [00:53:44] please signify by saying aye. [00:53:46] Aye. [00:53:47] Opposed? [00:53:47] Like sign. [00:53:48] Motion passes. [00:53:49] Next is an emergency resolution 2017-12.
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Emergency Resolution No. 2017-12: Abatement and Removal of Unsafe Structure at 6821 Garden Drive
discussedCouncil considered Emergency Resolution 2017-12 declaring a fire-damaged mobile home at 6821 Garden Drive a nuisance after two recent arson fires destroyed the structure. Property owner Ron Howarth had already obtained a demolition permit and substantially cleared the site; staff recommended approving the resolution but holding it in abeyance for 16 days to allow removal of remaining construction debris, the mobile home base frame, and an RV.
Ord. Resolution No. 2017-12
- direction:Staff recommended approval of the resolution declaring the structure a nuisance but holding it in abeyance for 16 days to allow the owner to remove remaining construction material, the mobile home base frame, and the RV. (none)
6821 Garden DriveMrs. SpearsMs. PierceRon HowarthWilliam Lansbury12 arsons in the community over two yearsEdgewater Gardens subdivisionEmergency Resolution No. 2017-12FEMA flood zone elevation requirementsSection 6151 of the city code▶ Jump to 53:53 in the videoShow transcriptHide transcript
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[00:53:53] Mrs. Spears? [00:53:54] Thank you. [00:53:55] Another PowerPoint? [00:54:01] In this case, the subject property [00:54:08] is on the west side of Garden Drive within Edgewater Gardens. [00:54:17] And the subdivision is north of Green Key Road [00:54:20] and it's west of US 19. [00:54:22] And this property is owned by Ron Howarth. [00:54:26] There were two recent fires that damaged the mobile home that [00:54:30] was on the property. [00:54:33] You can see the effect of that. [00:54:36] In this photo, you can see to the right is an existing [00:54:39] RV on the property. [00:54:41] There's nothing left inside of it. [00:54:43] Luckily, there were no injuries. [00:54:46] It was vacant at the time of the fires. [00:54:49] The building official determined that the structure [00:54:51] was an immediate hazard and he is [00:54:54] authorized to condemn it under section 6151 of the code. [00:54:59] And he posted the property as condemnable [00:55:03] and he also sent a notice to the property owner, Mr. Howarth. [00:55:08] Mr. Howarth came in last week and he [00:55:11] requested approval of a demolition permit. [00:55:16] That was issued the next day on March 14 [00:55:19] and it was done so with provision [00:55:21] that the work be completed by today. [00:55:25] It also specified that all construction be removed, [00:55:28] that the lot be scraped and cleaned, [00:55:30] and the RV be removed as well. [00:55:33] These photos were taken yesterday [00:55:35] that showed the dismantling of the mobile. [00:55:40] Today, this is how the property looks. [00:55:42] The construction material does remain, [00:55:45] as well as the base of the mobile [00:55:47] that you can kind of see in the middle of the picture. [00:55:50] And the RV is still there. [00:55:52] Staff would recommend approval of the resolution [00:55:56] declaring the structure to be a nuisance, [00:55:59] but hold it in abeyance for 16 days [00:56:02] to allow the owner to remove all of the construction material [00:56:06] and the base frame of the mobile and the RV. [00:56:10] And I believe he's here tonight as well. [00:56:13] Thank you. [00:56:13] Is Mr. Howarth in attendance? [00:56:15] Yes, he is, Mr. Mayor. [00:56:17] If you'd wish to address counsel on this. [00:56:20] Thank you. [00:56:25] Please come on down. [00:56:40] Do you have any questions for me? [00:56:43] I have a quick one. [00:56:46] My memory's failing a little bit. [00:56:47] Are you the same gentleman that had another mobile home burnt [00:56:50] down last year? [00:56:51] Yes, I have. [00:56:53] Arson? [00:56:54] Another one. [00:56:54] There's been 12 arsons in the community. [00:56:57] So you've had, there's been 12 mobile homes set on fire. [00:57:00] And how many of you have been set on fire? [00:57:03] Two. [00:57:04] Two. [00:57:05] And do you know if they were by your tenants, [00:57:07] or did they ever find who did it? [00:57:08] No, the neighbor on the two properties, I suspect, [00:57:11] has done it by the name of. [00:57:17] By the name of William Lansbury. [00:57:20] No proof. [00:57:20] I mean, it just blows my mind. [00:57:21] 12 arsons on mobile homes in the same community in, what, [00:57:25] 10 years, five years? [00:57:26] Two years. [00:57:27] Two years. [00:57:29] Something's going on. [00:57:30] Something is going on. [00:57:31] Yes, go ahead, sir. [00:57:32] We've asked for lots of assistance from the city, [00:57:34] but received no joy. [00:57:41] Mr. Howarth, are you OK with the recommendation of staff? [00:57:45] I don't see why it doesn't pose a nuisance right now. [00:57:53] It's not an emergency. [00:57:56] We're doing our best to remove the debris. [00:58:01] We've already moved everything out. [00:58:03] Land is cleared from the, except for the base. [00:58:07] And the garbage department is going [00:58:12] to pick it up on Thursday. [00:58:14] They've already picked up about half of it. [00:58:18] It's a standard procedure that I received a permit before [00:58:24] for demolition of another house. [00:58:31] It was for six months. [00:58:33] Standard operating procedures for six months. [00:58:35] I can give you a copy, if you'd like, of that permit. [00:58:40] I was charged $30 for that one. [00:58:42] For some reason, I was charged $130 for this one. [00:58:48] I feel that I'm asking the city council's assistance, [00:58:53] because I feel that when these drug addicts and whoever, [00:58:58] neighbors, burn torch places, I feel that I get singled out, [00:59:06] and I become the target when possibly we [00:59:09] should do something about who's setting the fires, [00:59:13] rather than targeting me, and also [00:59:16] do something about the drugs in the community that [00:59:23] are being prescribed. [00:59:24] And it's one of the causes that a lot of these people, [00:59:28] they take this, I don't know if you folks are up [00:59:33] on what's going on here, but they [00:59:34] take the spice, which is sold widely available. [00:59:39] I can go on the street corner and buy some if I was to want [00:59:42] to, and they do this spicing, and they [00:59:44] go into these destructive fits. [00:59:51] And they do things like this. [00:59:54] But aside from that, I would like to be able to. [01:00:00] I don't have enough time to adequately exercise a normal demolition permit. [01:00:14] Like I said, normally it's six months and it poses no emergency. [01:00:18] Currently, I have a couple pictures here that you could clearly see what it looks like. [01:00:26] I'd like to submit it as evidence, actually. [01:00:28] I'd like you to hand those to the clerk, please. [01:00:36] This is a current picture of how it looks. [01:00:39] If you could pass it around, I have a couple if you'd like to see what it really looks like. [01:00:46] One more question, Mr. Horvath, if I may. [01:00:48] What are your plans for the second unit there, we'll call it? [01:00:53] I plan to move that to another location. [01:00:57] Do you plan on running that out at another location? [01:01:01] It's going out of the city of New Fort Ritchie. [01:01:08] I have a second picture here. [01:01:10] This is a picture that the city demolished. [01:01:16] They demolished it. [01:01:19] I think it'll show you that it's the same as you see in that picture, or very similar, [01:01:24] which was adequate for the city to do something. [01:01:30] It seems that it's a double standard if I have to do more than what the city has done to fulfill a demolition. [01:01:40] This is a picture of that, which is right within a block away. [01:01:51] This has been sitting for more than a year. [01:02:04] Mr. Horvath, if I'm understanding you correctly, the other building or RV or whatever that is on the property, [01:02:12] you're removing it to another location outside the city. [01:02:15] What's your plan for this property? [01:02:18] This property is uncertain what I'm going to do with it. [01:02:21] It's very difficult to make a decision because if I am forced to put another mobile on there and elevate it, [01:02:36] number one, can you imagine having a mobile home or a structure up in the air, its own mobile home, [01:02:45] can you imagine having a structure in the air 10 feet or 8 feet? [01:02:53] It's a real eyesore. [01:02:54] Number two, it's quite cost prohibitive when similar mobiles can be purchased for $10,000 or $12,000, [01:03:06] when the cost for the foundation alone to elevate a mobile home is at least $25,000. [01:03:20] Furthermore, by elevating a mobile home, you're taking away the trailer category [01:03:34] because you're putting it up on some foundation where it is no longer a trailer. [01:03:41] Therefore, it wouldn't fall under the guidelines as per the Department of Motor Vehicles, [01:03:49] which are actually the governing authority over mobile homes and trailers and RVs and automobiles, [01:03:57] whereby they govern what requirements are to repair or rebuild them. [01:04:06] So I don't know specifically if what I'm saying is totally accurate, [01:04:16] but my understanding is where there are other laws that supersede the laws that the city is trying to enact, [01:04:34] if those laws, the city laws, actually would take precedence. [01:04:40] But this is not necessarily a matter of arguing that at this point. [01:04:45] I'm merely asking for a reasonable and normal permit to complete the demolition, [01:04:56] which I don't know why, but on another exact similar situation, [01:05:05] I was given six months and charged $30. [01:05:11] Why now, it doesn't make sense to me, why would we be charged $130 for that same permit, [01:05:22] yet given six days? [01:05:25] It seems like there must, I don't know, maybe I'm paranoid, I don't think so, [01:05:29] but maybe that I would be single out to be given six days to do something that is totally unreasonable to me. [01:05:39] Any other questions for Mr. Hartmuth? [01:05:41] No, I have questions of the building department. [01:05:43] Just one more comment regarding, I think you hit the nail on the head as far as what guidelines supersede city guidelines. [01:05:49] When you're talking about elevating mobile homes or any structure, [01:05:51] you're getting the FEMA guidelines, it's what I do for a living. [01:05:54] If you're in a flood zone and whatever structure is damaged more than 50%, [01:05:58] correct me if I'm wrong, building department, you have to elevate it. [01:06:01] It's not our rule, that's a federal rule. [01:06:04] I'd like to submit this, sir, that many cities and persons have opted out of that rule [01:06:16] and I can understand where you're coming from, [01:06:21] that FEMA has dictated, say, that if you want to have the insurance at a discounted rate, [01:06:28] that you must elevate, but I submit to you that I will sign a waiver [01:06:37] that this property will never be insured [01:06:42] and that should be reasonably, [01:06:45] that should take away any necessity to prevent a possible repair of the RV. [01:06:55] And as I said before, it's not necessarily arguable at this point, [01:07:02] unless you really want to, [01:07:03] but I believe that the RVs and the trailers, [01:07:11] it doesn't seem reasonable that the city would govern what a higher authority has already... [01:07:21] Thank you, Mr. Horvath. [01:07:25] Is there anyone else that is an affected party by this parcel? [01:07:30] Seeing no one come forward, [01:07:34] we have questions for the development department. [01:07:39] Ms. Pierce, is this in a flood zone? [01:07:42] Yes, it is. [01:07:44] Assuming that a structure were built on this, would it have to be elevated? [01:07:48] It would. [01:07:51] I am aware that Mr. Horvath seems to have had a massive stroke of bad luck [01:08:03] with arsonists over the years with mobile homes. [01:08:09] I've had two only, and there's been 12. [01:08:12] Mr. Horvath, if you could have a seat, please. [01:08:15] The issue that I've got is that whole area is... [01:08:22] It's dragging down property values for the whole city, [01:08:25] and as far as I'm concerned, [01:08:29] we would do better if we could find a way to deal with all of the blight in there, [01:08:34] not just the ones that happen to get torched. [01:08:38] Is that area suitable for redevelopment? [01:08:48] Absolutely, considering it's basically a waterfront subdivision. [01:08:53] It's actually a great piece of land. [01:08:56] It's maybe not at the highest and best use currently. [01:08:59] That was what I was getting at. [01:09:01] It has great development potential. [01:09:03] Having a derelict and run-down mobile home [01:09:06] sitting on prime waterfront real estate [01:09:08] seems to be an incredible waste of property. [01:09:12] Any other questions or comments from my colleagues? [01:09:16] When was the fire? [01:09:18] March 1st and 8th, I believe. [01:09:20] There were two fires that were within a week of each other. [01:09:23] So he's done all this work in two weeks? [01:09:26] Since last Friday. [01:09:29] So he's done all that in six days. [01:09:32] And you would recommend to give him 16 more days? [01:09:35] Correct. That's how the resolution was originally written. [01:09:38] We thought we were comfortable giving him just a little more time to complete the work. [01:09:42] Are the lots in this subdivision all owned individually? [01:09:48] They're individually owned. [01:09:52] Just real quick, my colleagues. [01:09:54] Is everyone familiar with, apparently the mayor is, [01:09:56] Councilman Davis, have you been through this subdivision? [01:09:59] You know what we're talking about then. [01:10:05] So the property, what you're looking for within the 16 days [01:10:10] is the removal of that other property and also the pad that is there? [01:10:15] That's right. It's to remove the base on which the mobile sat [01:10:20] as well as any of the material that you saw from the last slide [01:10:24] that was still on the property and as well as the RV, [01:10:27] which Mr. Howard says he'd be removing from the city. [01:10:30] If I saw that picture correctly, that's not actually a pad [01:10:33] like the one that Mr. Harvest showed on the city. [01:10:35] That's actually the frame of the mobile home that's sitting there [01:10:38] still on the property. [01:10:40] Okay, thank you for that, because that was my next question. [01:10:43] We're asking to remove the slab? [01:10:46] No, it's not a slab. It's like a base or a frame on which the mobile sat. [01:10:51] The pad would have been where the... [01:10:55] Okay, thank you. [01:10:58] Councilman Starkey, any other? [01:11:04] I'm saying Starkey, but you're looking in this direction. [01:11:07] I'm sorry. [01:11:10] He's got more hair than I do. [01:11:13] Yes, he does, and I was trying to ask for the Deputy Mayor, [01:11:16] so it's been one of those days. [01:11:19] I'm Starkey Davis now, so that's... [01:11:22] Can I ask a question? [01:11:25] We're working on this, sir. [01:11:28] Deputy Mayor. [01:11:31] I'm looking at what the authorizations and the authority that we've given [01:11:39] the building officials through the ordinance [01:11:42] that gets them to this emergency procedure. [01:11:45] I can see where Mr. Horvath feels as though he's being [01:11:50] unduly singled out, [01:11:53] because we do have other like-kind elements in the city. [01:11:59] Not all of them have been set on fire, [01:12:01] but we do have like-kind structures in the city. [01:12:05] In this case, obviously, the two fires drove that much quicker. [01:12:15] Like I said, I'm reading the ordinance again, [01:12:18] so I can understand what kind of authorizations we've allowed
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Resolution No. 2017-13: Opposition to HB 13 Regarding Community Redevelopment Agencies
approvedCouncil adopted Resolution 2017-13 opposing Florida House Bill 13, which would severely restrict and phase out Community Redevelopment Agencies (CRAs). Council members characterized the bill as a state power grab and emphasized CRAs' importance for local redevelopment, particularly in economically challenged times.
Ord. Resolution No. 2017-13
- motion:Motion to approve Resolution 2017-13 opposing House Bill 13 regarding Community Redevelopment Agencies. (passed)
DavisDeval ThomasMs. VanceStarkeyChapter 163, Part 3, Florida StatutesCommunity Redevelopment Agencies (CRAs)House Bill 13Resolution 2017-13tax increment financing▶ Jump to 1:12:21 in the videoShow transcriptHide transcript
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[01:12:23] our building officials to have, [01:12:26] but when we ask them a question about other facilities, [01:12:29] it doesn't meet the test. [01:12:32] I believe that Mr. Horvath, in six days, has shown good. [01:12:40] I think 16 days is a little arbitrary, [01:12:45] and a little over the top, [01:12:48] so I would be more inclined for 30 days. [01:12:54] I understand where, in a previous condition, [01:12:57] I'm not sure if there was a fire in place on that one [01:13:00] that drove the six-month removal permit or not. [01:13:05] It's the same. [01:13:07] So on the last one that was burned, [01:13:09] you got six months to get it off the property [01:13:11] and get the heck out of Dodge and do whatever it was. [01:13:14] That one was not torched. [01:13:15] That was an owner error. [01:13:20] Was there a fire? [01:13:21] Yeah, there was a fire. [01:13:23] Chief, is there a difference between a fire and a fire? [01:13:27] There's a difference between an arson and a fire. [01:13:29] Well, has this been determined this is arson? [01:13:32] Yeah. [01:13:33] So it has been determined it's arson, [01:13:34] and does that create a different criteria for our emergency procedures? [01:13:40] Not on my end. [01:13:42] I don't know about the Development Department, [01:13:44] but both of these fires that we are talking about have determined to be arson, [01:13:48] and they are under investigation by the State Fire Marshal's Office. [01:13:51] All right. [01:13:52] I mean, if Mr. Horath had just basically said, [01:13:55] have a good time, you know, I'm not doing anything with it, [01:13:59] I think he's shown great decorum not coming here [01:14:04] and telling us what he really feels about having to do this in six days. [01:14:09] And I can tell you if I was standing in your shoes right now, [01:14:12] I probably would have had a different point of view. [01:14:16] But I understand the ordinance, the way it reads. [01:14:19] We're trying to implement. [01:14:20] We're trying to get the issue resolved. [01:14:24] Like I said, 16 days, 30 days. [01:14:28] I think we're at a point where I'd make a motion that we allow him 30 days [01:14:32] to finish the process of removing this with updated photographs in 15 days. [01:14:42] Second. [01:14:43] We have a motion and a second. [01:14:44] I'm sorry. [01:14:45] I'm sorry, Mr. Horath. [01:14:47] Please have a seat. [01:14:48] For the sake of due process, I would like to say something. [01:14:50] I'm sorry. [01:14:51] This is being discussed at the council level at this point. [01:14:54] I would like to have due process. [01:14:55] You have had your due process, sir. [01:14:57] Please sit down. [01:15:00] questions. I will sit down. Please sit down. I respectfully request Mr. Horvath, you are [01:15:06] out of order. To the maker. No, I've stated that I think giving him 30 days to complete [01:15:15] this and with an update. Thank you. To the second. I would agree, I do want to thank [01:15:20] you Mr. Horvath. I think in the last six days or the, when was the fire? Eight. You've done [01:15:28] a tremendous amount of work. I appreciate that. A lot of people would just let it sit [01:15:30] there for months and months and months until we force your hand. So I do appreciate what [01:15:34] you've done thus far, but I am good with 30 days as well. Councilman. The fire was the [01:15:42] eighth and we gave him until the 21st to get the property done and it's only the last six [01:15:46] days that he did whatever needed to happen. The fires were the first and the eighth. There [01:15:52] were two. And so we got involved in it with the timeline ticking. So he requested the [01:15:58] demo permit. We decided to give him until today because we thought we'd have this discussion [01:16:02] with you and if you wanted to give more time, it was well within your rights to do so. And [01:16:07] is that pretty typical then to do a demolition within a 30 day time frame? Well, it depends [01:16:14] on how motivated you are. So now we're, by doing it 30 days, essentially he's had 45 [01:16:20] days to get this done. That's right. Okay. And by the photos as well, Councilwoman, in [01:16:25] my opinion, it's a hazard. I mean, someone could walk in there, the remaining roof could [01:16:30] fall on them and it's a very dangerous thing. So the 30 days and he's already pretty much [01:16:34] torn it down, correct? I mean, except for the base and an additional trailer. So. Deputy [01:16:39] Mayor. No, I was, I made the motion. Councilman Davis. I'm fine. Yeah, I, Mr. Horvath, I appreciate [01:16:46] what you've done to get the place cleaned up. I think 30 days should be more than adequate [01:16:50] to get the remaining frame in the mobile home that is still on the property off of [01:16:55] it. I think that's, that's fair. I agree with my colleagues. 16 days is a bit tight. So. [01:17:05] With that, all those in favor of the motion. Mr. Mayor, first I need to read the title. [01:17:08] Read the title. Resolution 2017-12, a resolution requesting the nuisance abatement of a structure [01:17:13] subject to a condemnation order of the building official pursuant to section 6-171 through [01:17:18] section 6-183 of the Code and Affordances of the City of New Port Richey. Finding a [01:17:23] hazard to the safety of persons or property in the subject property, condemning the subject [01:17:27] property and authorizing the demolition and removal of the nuisance of the subject property. [01:17:32] Finding the subject property to consist of parcel ID 0626160030000000690 located at 6821 [01:17:39] Garden Drive, legally described as Edgewater Gardens, Unit 1, Plat Book 6, Page 96, Lot [01:17:50] 69, OR Book 8592, Page 1479, Public Records of Pasco County, Florida, together with mobile [01:17:57] homes situated thereon, and all improvements and pertinences thereto. Also known as 6821 [01:18:03] Garden Drive, New Port Richey, Florida, and shown on Exhibit A and for other purposes [01:18:06] and relief. Thank you. There's no further discussion. All those in favor, please signify [01:18:11] by saying aye. Aye. Opposed, like sign. Motion passes. Next is Resolution 2017-13. Ms. Vance. [01:18:21] Mr. Mayor, members of the Council, the purpose of this resolution is to serve as an opposition [01:18:26] to House Bill 13, which severely restricts the ability of community redevelopment agencies [01:18:33] to perform in accordance with their intended purpose and establishes a process by which [01:18:38] to terminate all CRAs in Florida. Under Chapter 163, Part 3 of the Florida Statutes, municipalities [01:18:47] are granted the authority to establish community redevelopment agencies to influence the redevelopment [01:18:55] of blighted areas through a tax increment financing tool. The proposed House Bill seeks [01:19:05] to prohibit or limit local uses of government's use of CRAs. Local units of government have [01:19:14] both the right and the responsibility to mobilize reinvestment in economically challenged areas. [01:19:21] Therefore, CRAs are effective tools and as such, we are requesting that you pass the [01:19:28] attached resolution in opposition of House Bill 13. Thank you. I'll open this up for [01:19:33] public comment. Seeing no one come forward, I'll bring it back to Council. Move for approval. [01:19:38] Second. We have a motion and a second. To the maker. It's been longstanding that CRAs, [01:19:44] especially in a city setting, have had monumental effect on redevelopment in their own backyards [01:19:54] and that's home rule. It doesn't surprise me that on the state level, they would like [01:20:03] to continue to move authority and oversight up to Tallahassee and then not provide enough [01:20:14] funding, enough tools so you can deal with your own communities, but they continue to [01:20:20] want to be reelected. I just think it's not like CRAs have been a black eye. We take great [01:20:33] care on putting in place, making it and reinvesting those dollars back in our communities in such [01:20:40] a way that we would have to not only go to the county to ask for that money, but then [01:20:47] to go back to the state house and ask for the money again from two separate bodies, [01:20:52] to me, could be defined as insanity due to the fact that by the time you got to the third [01:20:59] one, they'd find another use for the dollars. It's a great tool for us to reinvigorate small [01:21:07] cities, cities like New Port Richey, especially in economically challenged times. If we didn't [01:21:15] have the CRA back in the downturn, there are a lot of things that would not have been done, [01:21:21] a lot of things that would not be in place that allows you to springboard once the economy [01:21:28] changes. [01:21:29] Thank you. Councilman Davis. [01:21:31] I just want to kind of back that up with the money gets reinvested in the city that we [01:21:35] have here, and I can't believe they want to take their chunk out at the state level, [01:21:40] so I'm definitely for this. [01:21:43] Councilman Starkey. [01:21:44] I'm going to vote for it, but I have no comments. Thank you. [01:21:47] Councilman Deval Thomas. [01:21:48] I agree. I think we should have that opportunity to make these decisions for ourselves. [01:21:53] The Community Redevelopment Agency, at least in the city of New Port Richey, has provided [01:21:57] the city over many, many years an opportunity to try to improve our community and to make [01:22:05] it better. This is, quite frankly, a power grab by the state legislature, so I will vote [01:22:13] in favor of the motion to oppose this. [01:22:17] Any further discussion? [01:22:18] Would you like me to read it, Mr. Mayor? [01:22:20] Resolution 2017-13, a resolution of the City Council of the City of New Port Richey, Florida, [01:22:25] opposing any state legislation that would prohibit the creation of new community redevelopment [01:22:29] agencies after a date certain, providing a phase-out period for existing community redevelopment [01:22:34] agencies, provide a limited exception for community redevelopment agencies with certain [01:22:38] outstanding bond obligations, require the Department of Economic Opportunity to declare [01:22:42] inactive community redevelopment agencies that have reported no financial activity for [01:22:46] a specified number of years, require municipal community redevelopment agencies to provide [01:22:50] an annual budget to the County Commission, and providing for an effective date. [01:22:55] Thank you. [01:22:57] No further discussion. All those in favor, please signify by saying aye. [01:23:00] Aye. [01:23:01] Opposed? Like sign. [01:23:03] Motion passes. Next is Resolution 2017-14.
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Resolution No. 2017-14: Opposition to HB 17 Regarding the Preemption of Municipal Home Rule Powers
approvedCouncil adopted Resolution 2017-14 opposing Florida House Bill 17, which would preempt municipal home rule powers to license and regulate businesses. The resolution will be forwarded to Governor Rick Scott, Speaker Richard Corcoran, and the Pasco County Legislative Delegation.
Ord. Resolution No. 2017-14
- motion:Approve Resolution 2017-14 opposing HB 17 and direct the city clerk to forward copies to Governor Scott, Speaker Corcoran, and the Pasco County Legislative Delegation. (passed)
Richard CorcoranRick ScottSteve SherdellHouse Bill 17Pasco County Legislative DelegationResolution 2017-14▶ Jump to 1:23:05 in the videoShow transcriptHide transcript
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[01:23:07] Resolution 2017-14, a resolution of the City Council of the City of New Port Richey, Florida, [01:23:11] opposing any state legislation that would preempt local regulation to the state by prohibiting [01:23:15] local governments from imposing or adopting certain ordinances, regulations, rules, licenses, [01:23:20] permit or other requirements, including associated fees, opposing any state legislation that [01:23:24] would preempt and repeal by operation of state law any existing local regulations, opposing [01:23:28] any state legislation that would limit local governments in modifying or imposing additional [01:23:32] regulations and providing an effective date. [01:23:36] Thank you. [01:23:37] Mr. Mayor. [01:23:38] Yes. [01:23:39] Mr. Mayor, members of the City Council, this is another attempt by the state to undermine [01:23:43] the efficacy of the home rule powers given to you in our state constitution. The current [01:23:51] legislation being considered under House Bill 17 would preempt local units of government [01:23:58] from licensing and regulating businesses without specific approval from the state. [01:24:05] The types of businesses that they would like to regulate and relieve the city of responsibility [01:24:14] deal with noise regulations, adult entertainment and sexually oriented businesses, medical [01:24:21] marijuana siting and security regulations, building height restrictions, parking of commercial [01:24:26] vehicles in residential districts, and home-based business regulations. From the staff's perspective, [01:24:35] these are home rule powers that need to be protected. We are asking you to pass a resolution [01:24:41] in opposition of House Bill 17 and direct the city clerk to forward copies of the resolution [01:24:47] to Governor Rick Scott, Speaker of the House Richard Corcoran, and members of the Pasco [01:24:51] County Legislative Delegation. [01:24:53] Thank you. [01:24:54] Any other public comment? Seeing no one come forward, bring it back to Council. [01:24:59] Move for approval. [01:25:00] Second. [01:25:01] To the Maker. [01:25:02] I just don't understand the logic behind a House Bill like this. I mean, I'm trying to [01:25:06] look at it from both sides. I just don't see who it benefits, except just power trips. [01:25:10] I mean, why would someone in Tallahassee that's never been to our city tell us we're not allowed [01:25:15] to regulate what types of businesses we have in our certain districts? It's absurd. It [01:25:20] baffles me that they would even want to do such a thing. I just can't grasp the logic [01:25:25] behind a bill like this. [01:25:26] To the Second. [01:25:27] Baffling. [01:25:28] I just want to add that no two cities look alike, and the local home rule is what dictates [01:25:34] how a city should look. And I'd like to work with my city and let New Port Richey and Dade [01:25:40] City and Zephyr Hills all work with their cities. [01:25:43] Very good. Deputy Mayor. [01:25:46] Comments well made. I don't have anything else, Mayor. [01:25:49] Thank you. [01:25:51] Yeah, I'm as perplexed and, you know, shame on me that I didn't find out from my legislatures [01:25:57] where they were coming from on this. But it just seems that, you know, it's a very strong [01:26:02] ethic, I guess, about the home rule issue. So I will be voting against this as well. [01:26:12] Thank you. It was interesting that in the detail discussion comes up, the first item [01:26:18] was noise ordinance, which is something we've had to deal with here in New Port Richey, [01:26:23] where we have bars in the downtown that have had absolutely zero respect for their neighbors, [01:26:31] running loud, obnoxious music at all hours of the day and night. And I think they've [01:26:36] taken some exception to that. But we have passed noise ordinances to try to crack them [01:26:42] down a little bit so they'll turn the volume down so people can get a decent night's sleep. [01:26:47] That is a responsibility of the city. That is not something that somebody in Tallahassee [01:26:52] is going to know about or care about. And it's ludicrous for them to tell us that we [01:26:57] should not be allowed to do that. Interestingly enough, our legislators would be the first [01:27:03] ones to scream bloody murder if the federal government told them that they couldn't make [01:27:09] decisions affecting the state of Florida. And I think this is exactly the same thing. [01:27:14] This is home rule. It is very important for the City Council and the City of New Port Richey [01:27:19] to make the decisions about what is best for the City of New Port Richey, not somebody [01:27:24] all the way up in Tallahassee. So I'm going to vote in favor of this resolution to oppose [01:27:29] this. Is there any further discussion? Hearing none, all those in favor, please signify by [01:27:34] saying aye. Aye. Opposed? Like sign. Motion passes. Do we need to take a break before [01:27:41] we get into the next item? Are we good? Okay. Next is recommendation for in-kind support [01:27:47] for special events. Ms. Manns. Yes, sir, Mr. Mayor. The request before City Council is [01:27:53] to approve recommended in-kind support of annual special events hosted by local not [01:27:59] for profit organizations. As you are aware, there is a tradition in the city to support [01:28:05] those special events that are hosted by local non-profits. And also, as you know, an appropriation [01:28:15] was established in your budget this year in the amount of $50,000 to support those type [01:28:22] of in-kind services, which typically are police, fire, and public safety setup and operation [01:28:29] costs associated with the planned special events. In my communication to you in respect [01:28:38] to this matter, I included a recommendation matrix. The values were based in large part [01:28:46] on the gross revenue of the special events as well as the surplus revenue being used [01:28:54] to further achieve the mission of the organization. Earlier this year, applications were sent [01:29:03] to all of the not-for-profits that host annual events in the city. The respondents were the [01:29:11] West Pasco Chamber of Commerce, the Chasco Fiesta Incorporated, and Greater New Port Richey [01:29:18] Main Street. The requests, as you might expect, exceeded the amount of funding that was available [01:29:27] to support the events, and so the staff looked at them and developed a recommendation for [01:29:37] your consideration. The recommendation is for the Cody River Bike Fest in the amount [01:29:45] of $6,000, the Holiday Street Parade in the amount of $2,000, Chasco Fiesta in the amount [01:29:53] of $33,000, the Cody River Seafood Festival in the amount of $4,000, and the West Pasco [01:30:00] and Main Street Blast in the amount of $5,000, the total of which is $50,000. [01:30:08] I have been in communication with the organizers of all of the events and advised them of the [01:30:18] 2017 recommendation for their support. [01:30:23] Thank you. [01:30:24] We'll open it up for public comment. [01:30:26] Anyone wish to address council on this? [01:30:30] Mr. Sherdell, come on down and give us your name and address for the record. [01:30:39] My name is Steve Sherdell. [01:30:41] I live at 4003 Rutter Way in New Port Richey, Florida, but not within the city limits. [01:30:46] I'm involved with several organizations, with the West Pasco Chamber of Commerce on behalf [01:30:51] of Bike Fest and with Greater New Port Richey Main Street, now New Port Richey Main Street. [01:30:56] The only question that I had, I just wanted to clarify that there were really only three [01:31:00] groups that would benefit. [01:31:01] It would be the Bike Fest, Chasco, and what was the third? [01:31:07] There were three respondents to the city's request. [01:31:11] New Port Richey Main Street did not respond? [01:31:13] Yes, they did, for three events. [01:31:16] Oh, three events, okay. [01:31:18] The first event is the Seafood Festival, the second is Main Street Blast, and the third [01:31:22] request, which was not funded, was for the River Lights Parade and Festival. [01:31:28] Okay, and I was just curious about the proportional funding for the different events, and I know [01:31:34] that some events are maybe more long-standing than others, but when you look at an event [01:31:40] like Bike Fest that over two days brings in the economic benefit to the city, very [01:31:46] well attended over two days, and then a protracted event like Chasco that's over nine days, [01:31:52] that's a longer event. [01:31:53] It's been discussed before that it's an event that could very well be presented in [01:31:58] four days, or five days, or three days, over nine days. [01:32:02] And the only thing that I've seen is over time there seems to be almost a sacred cow [01:32:07] given to the one festival where it's overfunded to the detriment of other festivals. [01:32:12] So I'm not anti-Chasco, but my question is, will that always continue? [01:32:16] And is there a point where maybe we can say that a festival promoter that desires to have [01:32:21] a nine-day festival that can be conducted over four days or five days, maybe that should [01:32:26] not be the city's responsibility for the funding. [01:32:29] If it means that other, more diverse events, other events that could benefit the city all [01:32:34] year round, bring other people into the area could benefit as well. [01:32:37] So that's something I would like people to consider. [01:32:40] I don't know that it'll ever be seriously considered, but I think it'd be a great thing [01:32:44] to look at, is how is it allocated and why is it allocated? [01:32:48] It's like the old story about the woman that cuts the end off the ham when she cooks it [01:32:51] in the oven. [01:32:52] And the end of the story was because her mom's oven was too small. [01:32:55] That's why the mom did it. [01:32:56] So they just kept doing it that way over years and years and years later. [01:32:59] And I think we might be in that same position right now when it comes to our festivals and [01:33:03] our entertainment in the area. [01:33:05] So I'd just like to leave that as food for thought. [01:33:07] Mr. Mayor, in response to the questions that Mr. Sherdell is raising, there was some consideration [01:33:14] in the funding decisions to the variables of promoting the city as a destination to [01:33:25] visitors, result in economic impact to local businesses, and providing family-friendly events. [01:33:32] In addition to that, other forms of city support were considered.
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Recommendations for In-Kind Support for Special Events
approvedCouncil discussed staff recommendations for in-kind support of special events funded from a $50,000 budget. After extensive debate about the process, fairness among organizations (Chasco Fiesta, Chamber of Commerce, Main Street), and the need for long-range planning, council moved to fund only the three events occurring in the current fiscal year (Chasco Fiesta, Cody River Seafood Festival, Main Street Blast) at last year's appropriated levels, deferring the rest to the FY2018 budget process.
- motion:Fund only the three special events occurring in the current fiscal year (Chasco Fiesta, Cody River Seafood Festival, Main Street Blast) at the same levels appropriated in FY2016, and address remaining events during the FY2018 budget process. (passed)
Grand BoulevardUS Highway 19Chasco FiestaGreater New Port Richey Main StreetTourist Development CouncilWest Pasco Chamber of CommerceCouncilman DavisCouncilman PhillipsCouncilman StarkeyCouncilwoman DeBell-ThomasMr. SchudelMs. DillingerMs. MannsSniger$50,000 in-kind events budgetChasco FiestaCody River Bike FestCody River Seafood FestivalCotee River TriathlonFY2017 budgetFY2018 budgetHoliday Street ParadeMain Street BlastPeace Hall rentalRiver Lights Boat ParadeWrap River Run▶ Jump to 1:33:35 in the videoShow transcriptHide transcript
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[01:33:38] You suggested that one group receives a disproportionately high amount of support, and they are the longest-standing [01:33:47] support, but they also don't receive some of the benefits that the other two organizations [01:33:53] do. [01:33:54] And, for instance, I'll reference the Main Street Program, which receives free rent in [01:33:59] a city facility, and also this fiscal year received a full-time position to support the [01:34:06] Main Street Program. [01:34:08] The Chamber of Commerce also has a very favorable deal from the city in which they receive rent [01:34:14] to a building for $250 a month. [01:34:17] So those are other factors that might be taken into consideration in that it would [01:34:23] seem less disproportionate. [01:34:25] I think so, but I also think it's reciprocal of what those organizations provide over the [01:34:30] course of the year. [01:34:31] I think the West Pasco Chamber of Commerce has proven itself to be business-driven, has [01:34:37] been involved with some of the members on the beautification along US Highway 19, has [01:34:42] been involved in assisting local businesses, and that's an annual ongoing commitment to [01:34:47] the area. [01:34:48] And, again, I get into this argument or this conversation every time I ever question funding [01:34:53] for Chasco, and it's not that I'm anti-Chasco. [01:34:55] I think it's great, but I think at some point it needs to look at a direct cause and effect [01:35:00] of benefit versus the favorable treatment that it's given. [01:35:03] Thank you. [01:35:04] Anyone else? [01:35:07] Seeing no one come forward, I'll bring it back to Council. [01:35:11] May I? [01:35:12] Yes. [01:35:13] Go ahead, Councilman Davis. [01:35:14] I have a lot of problems with this, and we address this kind of problem at the Tourist [01:35:20] Development Board. [01:35:21] There's events, and Chasco is one of them, that comes every year and has been given a [01:35:26] lot of money. [01:35:27] And we address this one and quite a few others, and this matrix is opinionated and doesn't [01:35:36] have a long-range goal. [01:35:39] It doesn't have a three-year, a five-year, a seven or ten, whatever number you want to [01:35:43] put on it, goal to this. [01:35:44] This just has a one-year goal. [01:35:46] And I think that we should take a look at this in the budget session and not a few days [01:35:51] before Chasco and some of these other events are coming up or are already passed and trying [01:35:58] to do this. [01:35:59] I think this needs a lot more work, a lot more time at the work session level. [01:36:07] But what we did at the Tourist Development Board is we took a look at, you know, let's [01:36:12] give Chasco as an example, even the bike fest. [01:36:15] And we said that we're going to wean these people off over a amount of years, but we're [01:36:20] not just going to like dump, you know, whatever, ten percent from Chasco. [01:36:25] And then we took a look at another one here, and it's an increase. [01:36:29] The seafood festival is an increase from 2,500, you know, to 4,000. [01:36:34] This doesn't, you know, it doesn't fit in my mind just right. [01:36:39] You know, and another one, you know, the Cody River Bike Fest goes from, you know, 5,000, [01:36:47] you know, up, you know, 200 bucks. [01:36:49] So let me say that the matrix of this doesn't make sense. [01:36:52] It's more, well, let's just, you know, we got this figured and that figured and stuff. [01:36:56] We just need to do more work at this. [01:36:58] And I talked to Ms. Manns today about this, and I told her I just would rather find $10,000 this year, [01:37:06] cover these things like we have been, because we put this, maybe it was our mistake, [01:37:11] and when we put the budget at $50,000, we might have should have put it at $60,000. [01:37:16] You know, but we made a mistake, and I don't think these, you know, organizations, [01:37:21] you know, all of them are pretty much, you know, help the nonprofits in the community. [01:37:26] The Bike Fest and the Chasco Fiesta, they promote 25, 50 businesses downtown. [01:37:34] Twenty-five nonprofits benefit from these. [01:37:37] And so to start yanking this out right at the time the event's going on, I have a real problem with it. [01:37:42] Also, what I found out today, too, is the Cody Mann Triathlon costs us about $2,000, and it should be listed here. [01:37:51] So in a sense, you know, we get in kind that it's really looking at its, you know, $62,000, you know. [01:37:57] So, I mean, we just need more work on this. [01:38:01] Thank you, Counselor. [01:38:02] Mr. Mayor. [01:38:03] Yes. [01:38:04] Although I don't envy the decision that you get to make, [01:38:07] I do want to at least assert the fact that what you have in front of you is an improved process. [01:38:13] There has not been one in the past. [01:38:16] This is the first time there's a formal application process and quantifiable recommendations. [01:38:24] If you determine that you'd like more money or different amounts of money appropriated to support any in-kind support of special events, [01:38:36] then I'll see to it that those items are tended to. [01:38:40] But the recommendation you have in front of you represents the budget that's currently available to you. [01:38:45] Thank you. [01:38:46] My understanding is the request for applications went out after we had set the budget for the current fiscal year? [01:38:54] That's correct. [01:38:55] Okay. [01:38:56] Councilman Starkey. [01:38:57] All great points. [01:38:58] Everybody that's spoken, Councilman Davis, City Manager, Mr. Schudel, great points. [01:39:02] It's very, for me, it's tough to put an absolute figure on this one. [01:39:06] When I personally think of in-kind, I think of policing primarily. [01:39:10] That's the first thing that comes to my mind when I think of in-kind contributions to events. [01:39:14] Obviously, the more people, the more policing you need. [01:39:17] So it makes sense that Chesco PSs quite a bit. [01:39:21] By seeing the Cood River Bike Fest last year, and if we're going to continue to do this, we need police. [01:39:28] And to only have 6,000 recommended for that, it scares me a little bit. [01:39:34] Greater Newportshire, Newportshire Main Street requesting $1,000 this year for the River Lights Boat Parade. [01:39:40] Once again, the more people in the park, even if it's not a crazy party, things can happen. [01:39:45] And I think we need a police presence there. [01:39:48] And coming around the bend during the boat parade, the Christmas boat parade, and seeing the thousands of people in the park that we all see. [01:39:58] I mean, when we come around the bend, there's a lot that can go wrong with such a large group of people. [01:40:02] So to me, when I think of, once again, in-kind contributions, I'm kind of tunnel vision on policing. [01:40:09] I think we should sit here and dissect this right now after we've already passed the budget. [01:40:15] To me, it's kind of tough to do, and I agree with Councilman Davis as far as that goes. [01:40:19] It's a start, and I commend Ms. Manns for presenting this to us. [01:40:23] It is a start. [01:40:24] There's so many different variables, and it's such a tough thing to quantify and put an exact number on each event. [01:40:30] It is difficult, but it's just one that, you know, the two that stick out to me I'd like to see a little bit more for the Kodi River Bike Fest [01:40:36] because it was insane last year, and I think it's going to continue to grow. [01:40:40] I mean, absolutely insane if you didn't walk down there. [01:40:43] A lot could go wrong, and I'd like a strong police presence there. [01:40:46] If they need to pay for part of it, that's fine, but let's help them out a little bit. [01:40:49] And, you know, it's a more laid-back event, but there's thousands of people in the park during the River Lights Boat Parade, [01:40:55] and we're not offering anything for that. [01:40:57] So this is by no means, in my opinion, the perfect solution, but it is a start. [01:41:01] I don't know if we just want to table this for now since we've already passed the budget. [01:41:05] I'm kind of leaning with Councilman Davis on this and discuss this more during budget season [01:41:10] rather than just dealing with what we have currently. [01:41:13] Councilwoman DeBell, Thomas. [01:41:15] Yeah, and I think if we think about it, that three of these events are actually next year's fiscal year. [01:41:21] The Holiday Street Parade, River Lights Boat Parade, and Cody River Bike Fest all take place after October 1st. [01:41:27] So I think, too, you know, with having – and actually I was under the impression that we had already addressed [01:41:37] the figures for these organizations, the last three, until September. [01:41:42] So I, too, would say that we probably should go with what is either based here on the three that are for this fiscal year [01:41:50] I know that I've lived in this city for about 40 years, and I was sharing with Ms. Mance today [01:41:58] that probably 15, 20 years ago, the process was sometime in April, applications went out [01:42:05] and people had to get them back into the city by June 1st. [01:42:09] There was a process in place to determine the monies that were going to be allocated [01:42:15] so that those figures were in place so that when council then was looking at the budget over the summer, [01:42:21] that was already – not that it was a given, but those things were already in place. [01:42:26] So you knew ahead of time, or the council would know ahead of time, what events they would be looking at. [01:42:32] And as Mr. Davis mentioned, there is the triathlon, which wasn't even discussed. [01:42:37] And there's a Wrap River Run. [01:42:39] Yeah. [01:42:40] Do they pay their own way? [01:42:42] Wrap River Run was sent an application, which they declined to submit. [01:42:47] Did they pay for their own last year? [01:42:49] Yeah, they did. [01:42:50] Okay. [01:42:51] For information on Wrap River Run, it's my understanding that that has a six-figure net for a half-day program. [01:42:58] That's correct. [01:42:59] So they're really not in need of city funding. [01:43:02] And this is no criticism of the process because it is – I also served on TDC, and it's just a really tough – [01:43:11] there's just so much that goes into it. [01:43:13] So, again, it's not a critique or criticism at all of the process. [01:43:18] I applaud you, Ms. Manns, for reaching this point where we have at least some process in place. [01:43:24] I would concur. [01:43:26] I agree with Councilman Starkey completely. [01:43:29] The River Rite Lights Boat Parade – say that three times fast – is one of the signature events, [01:43:36] much like the Chesco Fiesta Boat Parade. [01:43:39] And to have $1,000 to help with security in the park, I think, is really a nominal amount. [01:43:47] And I've had this discussion also with Ms. Manns. [01:43:53] The $50,000 total is probably something that we definitely need to revisit, [01:44:03] given that historically and year after year the amount of Chesco comes in the mid-30s somewhere. [01:44:12] That realistically only is about $15,000 for absolutely everything else. [01:44:17] And while Chesco is extraordinarily important to our city, it's by no means the only thing going on. [01:44:28] Some of these events that both the Chamber and Main Street have put on are big items for the city. [01:44:38] They bring in a lot of folks, and they provide a real entertainment value. [01:44:42] So I'm going to agree with Councilman Davis. [01:44:45] I think we're way low on the total, [01:44:48] and we may want to see if we can find some additional funds to put in that to get us through this year [01:44:53] and then get this as part of the budget for 2018, as Ms. DeBell-Thomas had suggested. [01:45:00] Mr. Mayor, if it meets with your approval, I could, let me just, if Councilman Davis [01:45:15] and the rest of the council is in agreement, we could fund the 2017 requested amounts. [01:45:22] You know, at some point I'd like to give my two cents, but that's okay, I can wait. [01:45:30] You know, I'll, I, you know. [01:45:32] You're up next, actually, Deputy Mayor. [01:45:34] You know, Ms. Manns has the floor, so please continue. [01:45:40] I'm just waiting for my marching orders. [01:45:42] I think that's your cue, Deputy Mayor. [01:45:45] Well, you know, I've been around here 60 years, and I'm way over the hill, man. [01:45:53] Used to have gray hair like Ms. Dillinger and I back in the 90s. [01:45:57] We used to look much different. [01:46:00] We didn't move, we moved a lot faster, because it was awful hard [01:46:04] to hit a moving target back then, but it's not now. [01:46:08] First of all, I had to fight in 2012 when the manager, [01:46:15] Sniger, was here, because he didn't want to fund anything. [01:46:20] And I remember taking one night during our process and pulling a movie Dave exercise [01:46:30] and finding $25,000 for Chasco that year, because we had in-kind, [01:46:35] and we've supersized the park now. [01:46:38] And this is the second year that some of these events are getting the opportunity [01:46:42] to utilize the supersized event setting. [01:46:47] We had to, we had to jump through and we had to do a lot of different things. [01:46:50] The one year we were under construction for Bike Fest, we gave them access to the stage, [01:46:55] we gave them special quarters, we trafficked in people, we trafficked them out. [01:46:59] So we go out of our way at every one of these events to do everything we can. [01:47:09] And sometimes the event folks don't understand all the back elements that go on, [01:47:15] and then we turn around and let other people fast track events. [01:47:19] And we have electric issues, we have all kinds of things, [01:47:23] but we try to be receptive to all groups. [01:47:27] I remember our budget process where we, how we got the $50,000. [01:47:32] We kind of looked at where the events were from the year before, [01:47:37] just so we could put $50,000 in this budget. [01:47:41] So in essence, if you need to back out the ones that aren't in this fiscal year, [01:47:48] because it doesn't make any sense to have money that's in this year's budget [01:47:52] that you're going to carry over until next year. [01:47:54] So either reallocate it or don't fund it at all. [01:47:59] You know, the elements with Chasco, you know, Chasco, we create our own dynamic. [01:48:07] We put a carnival in the middle of the city every daggum time. [01:48:14] And that first couple of nights, you know, Saturday night and Sunday, [01:48:18] and especially the street parade day, people don't take into consideration [01:48:22] that street parade. [01:48:24] And we invite people to come to town, and then they hang over. [01:48:30] This year, we're going to have a country concert that night. [01:48:32] We're going to have the Marine Corps band. [01:48:35] We're going to have the Clydesdales. [01:48:37] We're inviting a whole element. [01:48:39] Because I've seen, especially last year with the supersized setting, [01:48:45] I saw there was a fight over on Grand Boulevard. [01:48:53] And you have never seen 50 or 60 police officers come from everywhere. [01:49:00] And that's because we get cooperative service [01:49:03] from the Sheriff, Gage City, Tarpon Springs, New Port Richey. [01:49:08] So we do everything we can to make that setting the best we can. [01:49:14] How we get to 30 grand with Chasco, obviously, it's on 501C3 now, [01:49:18] because it's been split out from the chamber. [01:49:21] You can't look at it in the same light. [01:49:24] And again, it's gotten bigger and bigger. [01:49:27] I agree that our funding elements at the time we're doing budget, [01:49:32] we try to be conservative. [01:49:34] We try to knock our ad valorem rate back. [01:49:38] And then when we come on these things, as we come up to them, [01:49:41] we automatically say, gosh, we really want a bigger presence. [01:49:44] And we know what we're into. [01:49:46] So I believe that we back out that $8,000. [01:49:52] And if you want to put some other things in it. [01:49:55] And a group always has the ability to come see us right before their event. [01:50:00] And we get to see where we are in our budget and everything else. [01:50:03] This isn't a line drawn in the sand. [01:50:06] So it is tonight where we're going to do some initial funding. [01:50:11] But every group comes to us with what they're bringing to the table. [01:50:16] And we get to make a business decision at that point. [01:50:19] Or we get leveraged about what kind of decision we are making. [01:50:24] But with Chasco, obviously, the Tourist Development Council [01:50:30] is not going to give us anything to hang our hat on. [01:50:33] They love spending it in the middle of the county. [01:50:36] They're brought in a new guy, making more money. [01:50:39] They're raising their fees another 40% or 50% [01:50:44] on their own physical budget. [01:50:46] And I don't see monies that we've raised over the years [01:50:50] being reinvested back on the west side of Pasco County. [01:50:54] But at the end of the day, Chasco and the seafood and bike fests [01:50:59] is just going to continue to get bigger and bigger, [01:51:01] just like all the other bike fests around the state. [01:51:04] So there's my soapbox. [01:51:07] Thank you, Deputy Mayor. [01:51:08] Councilman Davis, you had another comment? [01:51:10] Yeah. [01:51:11] I really like us to look at long range. [01:51:14] And I think that's real important. [01:51:17] And not only these things, but I think [01:51:20] that if we just fund the projects between now [01:51:24] and the end of this budget, and that's [01:51:26] what I'd like to propose, that we fund the budget, the request [01:51:32] of numbers, to match what they got last year [01:51:37] that we appropriated. [01:51:38] Not change anybody. [01:51:39] The ones that were approved, or the ones [01:51:42] that we appropriated in 2016, that [01:51:45] are from here to the end of the budget, we'll approve those. [01:51:48] And then deal with the others next year. [01:51:50] So on that, what would you say, because you [01:51:52] said, given what they were appropriate last year, [01:51:54] like with the bike fest, they're giving $57.27. [01:51:57] Well, that bike fest isn't going to work, [01:51:59] because that's in the next season. [01:52:02] That's in October. [01:52:03] That'll be 17, 18. [01:52:05] Wow. [01:52:06] Chasco, Cody River Bike Fest. [01:52:08] Main Street Blast. [01:52:09] Those are the only three that are in this current fiscal year. [01:52:12] Yeah, there's only the three. [01:52:13] And I want to fund them at the same fee [01:52:17] that we funded them last year. [01:52:18] That's my proposal. [01:52:20] I'll second it. [01:52:21] We have a motion. [01:52:22] Second. [01:52:23] Yeah, thank you. [01:52:25] OK, go ahead. [01:52:26] Yeah, I think that the funding for Cody River Seafood [01:52:31] Festival and Main Street Blast has been $5,000 [01:52:34] the last several years. [01:52:37] So I don't know where the $2,500 is showing [01:52:39] for appropriation in 2016. [01:52:42] So I'm not sure which number you're looking at. [01:52:44] 2017 request? [01:52:46] No, if there's an error there, let's [01:52:49] go with what we actually appropriated. [01:52:51] I mean, if that $2,500's an error, [01:52:53] let's look into it and make sure. [01:52:56] I do question it, too, because it was $41,000, $51,000, [01:52:58] and then $2,500. [01:52:59] So there might be an error there. [01:53:02] But I'd be more comfortable if we [01:53:03] kept it roughly where it's been the last couple of years. [01:53:06] OK, yeah, yeah. [01:53:08] Those three events. [01:53:13] That's mine. [01:53:13] Mr. Starkey, you're the second. [01:53:15] Right, just to reiterate what Councilman Phillips said, [01:53:17] very good point. [01:53:17] And this is something we need to look at each event, [01:53:20] each year, and evaluate. [01:53:21] Do we have enough police? [01:53:22] Did we have what we needed? [01:53:23] And then use that to base our recommendation [01:53:26] for the next year. [01:53:27] It's great that long term is, so that's [01:53:29] kind of thinking long term, but on an annual basis. [01:53:31] Well, the reason I say long term is [01:53:34] because that's telling the, if we, [01:53:37] let's say we dock it 10%, any one of them, [01:53:42] then they know in 2019, 2020, that they're [01:53:46] going to go down a little bit. [01:53:48] They're going to get, so they can [01:53:49] plan on it instead of us coming at the last minute. [01:53:53] I don't want to tell somebody three days before the start [01:53:56] of their nine day event. [01:53:57] Yeah, well, you know, and we're also [01:53:59] looking at the bike fest the same way [01:54:01] when we go to the budget this summer. [01:54:03] So we want to do a long range, I think. [01:54:07] If I might suggest we go ahead, if you would accept this [01:54:12] as a friendly motion to go ahead and fund the Cody River Seafood [01:54:19] Fest at the $4,000, so they're not getting dropped all the way [01:54:25] back to $2,500. [01:54:26] Well, it looks like they got $2,500. [01:54:29] I'm just wondering, maybe we can get an answer here. [01:54:33] I can confirm that in 2016, it was $2,500. [01:54:37] We did go back and look at the agreements that were signed. [01:54:40] So it was $2,500 in 2016. [01:54:42] So the decision now would be, do you [01:54:44] want to do it at the requested $5,000 or what [01:54:49] they were provided in 2016, the $2,500? [01:54:54] But they are requesting $5,000 this year. [01:54:58] Well, I would have to say, I mean, that particular event, [01:55:01] the expenses, actually just looking at it today, [01:55:06] you know, the police expenses alone are over $3,800. [01:55:10] We changed the, I was sharing this with Ms. Manns, [01:55:12] we changed the way that we rent out Peace Hall. [01:55:15] We've eliminated a nonprofit rate. [01:55:18] And so it's $300 a day for them to rent that. [01:55:20] That's $900 just for that. [01:55:23] So I think that the money is definitely in the budget. [01:55:29] We're only looking at $46,000 with the monies that [01:55:32] were recommended for the 2017. [01:55:35] So I would implore you to not penalize them, [01:55:42] if that's the right word, for that particular thing. [01:55:45] We've already funded the Cody River in October. [01:55:49] No, I'm talking about the Cody River Seafest that's [01:55:52] coming up this year. [01:55:53] No, but you're talking as far as the budget, the $50,000. [01:55:55] We've already spent, you know, it was $16,000, [01:55:57] but they got $5,700 in 2016. [01:56:00] That's part of this year's budget of the $50,000. [01:56:06] You're talking about last year's budget? [01:56:09] No, the $16,000, it was in October. [01:56:11] That is in 2016. [01:56:12] That is in this budget. [01:56:13] Cody River Seafood Festival. [01:56:14] No, the Cody Bike Fest, Cody River Bike Fest. [01:56:17] Bike Fest. [01:56:17] Yeah. [01:56:19] Well, that'll be in the next fiscal year. [01:56:24] No, we already, in the appropriated, the $57,000, [01:56:28] $27,000, that's already been given to them this year [01:56:31] in this budget, 16-17 budget. [01:56:33] Last October, OK, 16-17. [01:56:34] Yeah, see what I'm saying? [01:56:35] Was that? [01:56:37] So, and nothing for the street parade last year? [01:56:41] There was nothing appropriated for the street parade? [01:56:45] That's why I said, I'm just not sure that this is correct. [01:56:50] I believe, and the 2016 is referring [01:56:57] to the fiscal year 16, so last fiscal year, [01:57:00] that is the amount that was given to the Bike Fest. [01:57:02] So that's not part of this year's budgeted amount. [01:57:05] What were they given this year? [01:57:08] I'll have to, I don't have that in front of me. [01:57:10] So I can get that information. [01:57:13] And then for the holiday street parade, [01:57:16] they were not provided any in-kind services. [01:57:19] So this, in fiscal year 16. [01:57:23] Wow, that's hard to believe. [01:57:24] And then nothing. [01:57:25] Pardon? [01:57:26] Went from 10 to nothing. [01:57:28] I'll amend my proposal to match the appropriations in 16, [01:57:35] except for the Cody River Seafood Fest, [01:57:38] because you're kind of ideal that it's going to grow [01:57:40] and put it at four grand. [01:57:43] Is that OK to the second? [01:57:45] It is. [01:57:46] And once again, thank you, Ms. Manns, [01:57:47] for all your hard work on this. [01:57:48] It's difficult to keep the numbers 100% accurate. [01:57:52] And it's a great starting point. [01:57:53] I appreciate everything you did. [01:57:55] Deputy Mayor, any further comments? [01:57:56] No, sir. [01:57:57] Mr. Mayor? [01:57:57] Councilman? [01:57:58] Yes, no, just a thank you.
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RESTORE Act - Pasco County/New Port Richey Subrecipient Agreement - Consideration for Approval
approvedCouncil approved a RESTORE Act sub-recipient agreement between Pasco County and New Port Richey, a Department of Treasury requirement, for grant funding not to exceed $100,000 to be used for Orange Lake improvements. Staff indicated dredging would begin after July 5, 2017, with phase two improvements around Orange Lake projected for completion by December.
- motion:Motion to approve the RESTORE Act sub-recipient agreement between Pasco County and New Port Richey for up to $100,000. (passed)
Circle BoulevardOrange LakeSims ParkChasco FiestaPasco CountySeafood FestivalCouncilman DavisCouncilman SpierkingCouncilwoman DiBello-ThomasMr. RiveraMr. SherdellMs. MannsDepartment of Treasury grantOrange Lake Phase TwoRESTORE Act▶ Jump to 1:57:59 in the videoShow transcriptHide transcript
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[01:58:00] Yes, definitely. [01:58:01] Thank you. [01:58:02] It's a good exercise. [01:58:03] And let's definitely push for the next fiscal year [01:58:06] to get this lined up so we deal with it over the summer. [01:58:10] There's no further discussion on this item. [01:58:12] All those in favor, please signify by saying aye. [01:58:14] Aye. [01:58:15] Opposed? [01:58:16] Like sign. [01:58:17] Restore Act. [01:58:19] Mr. Mayor, if I might just say, too, [01:58:20] I'm sorry, I should have included it. [01:58:21] Thank you, Mr. Sherdell, for your comments [01:58:23] and for sitting through the evening for that. [01:58:26] Thank you. [01:58:28] At long last, Mr. Mayor. [01:58:30] The Restore Act that we've been waiting on since October. [01:58:33] We do. [01:58:34] Mr. Rivera. [01:58:36] Thank you, Ms. Manns. [01:58:37] The request for city council is to consider for approval [01:58:40] the attached Restore Act sub-recipient agreement [01:58:43] between Pasco County and New Port Richey. [01:58:47] This agreement is a requirement by the Department of Treasury. [01:58:51] And it basically spells out the requirements [01:58:53] that both the city and the county [01:58:56] must perform to receive the Restore Act grant funding. [01:59:01] That dollar amount is a do not exceed amount of $100,000. [01:59:06] And we are requesting that you approve it. [01:59:09] Thank you. [01:59:09] I'll open it up for public comment. [01:59:12] Seeing no one, come forward and bring it back to council. [01:59:14] Move for approval. [01:59:15] Second. [01:59:15] Motion is second. [01:59:16] To the maker. [01:59:18] With these dollars in place, would somebody be so kind [01:59:22] as to give us a timeline or a progression of the improvements [01:59:29] that are going to take place with this around Orange Lake, [01:59:34] as well as the second phase of Sims Park's improvement? [01:59:40] I know they dovetail together, but we [01:59:46] hope to be further along with the stuff we'd be doing. [01:59:49] Well, I say that. [01:59:51] And then I back up immediately and say, [01:59:53] well, we would love to have been doing some things earlier [01:59:55] in the year. [01:59:56] But of course, Chasco and Seafood [02:00:00] fast and all of them would be freaking out because we're going to get in the way and [02:00:04] God bless that we got Circle Boulevard completed, the asphalting and stuff, it looks fabulous, [02:00:11] but we need to finish that phase two element along with this $100,000 that was kind of [02:00:18] the tail whacking the dog I think a little bit. [02:00:22] Do you have a time frame Mr. Rivera? [02:00:24] Well we're preliminary looking at July for the start of the dredging and that's simply [02:00:30] because now that once we get this approval we'll have to send this over to the Board [02:00:35] of County Commissioners for their approval. [02:00:38] Everything has got to go step by step with the Treasury's approval so there's a lot of [02:00:45] projects you will sit there and you'll try to do a lot of these things while you're waiting [02:00:49] for a permit like design elements or those types of things to where you can order materials [02:00:55] to where you don't have that down time that you're wasting, but with this type of grant [02:01:00] with the federal government you have to get their okay to proceed with everything and [02:01:06] you can't do that until you finish with the steps that are outlined. [02:01:10] So it has greatly hindered our ability to move forward and unfortunately the Restore [02:01:16] Act dollars are used for the Orange Lake improvements or the initial portion of the [02:01:24] project. [02:01:25] So once we get done with the dredging then we'll go in with the other elements as far [02:01:28] as installing some diffusion units to get the water area rated and blended in well. [02:01:35] We'll start the storm water elements to install to trap all the sentiments and pollutants [02:01:42] from coming into the lake. [02:01:44] The gate installations so that we can have more flood control over the area. [02:01:51] Those types of things will come after that. [02:01:53] So we're looking at right now that we should be able to be completed with that whole phase [02:01:59] two project around Orange Lake probably by December. [02:02:05] But in July it's after July the 5th. [02:02:09] Yes sir. [02:02:12] Because you say July, everybody will think you're going to start it on the 1st and we'll [02:02:16] create a groundswell of, so let's be clear in our own minds, after the 5th. [02:02:24] I don't want to call on the 1st, 2nd, 3rd or 4th, wherever I might be, with you guys [02:02:32] starting before you said you were supposed to. [02:02:35] Councilman Davis I believe you're the second. [02:02:38] I'm not. [02:02:39] Councilman Spierking? [02:02:40] No comments. [02:02:41] Councilman DiBello-Thomas? [02:02:43] I've been waiting for this to start for months. [02:02:45] I'm glad we're finally one step closer. [02:02:48] There's no further discussion. [02:02:49] All those in favor please signify by saying aye. [02:02:51] Aye. [02:02:52] Opposed the like sign.
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2017 City Hall Interior Carpet Removal and Replacement Project - Consideration for Approval
approvedCouncil approved a $81,052.12 quote for removal and replacement of carpet on the first floor of City Hall, as part of the capital improvement budget. The price was based on National Joint Powers Alliance RFP 121715.
- motion:Motion to approve the 2017 City Hall Interior Carpet Removal and Replacement Project quote of $81,052.12. (passed)
National Joint Powers AllianceCouncilman DavisCrystalMr. RiveraMs. Manns2017 City Hall Interior Carpet Removal and Replacement ProjectCapital Improvement BudgetRFP 121715▶ Jump to 2:02:54 in the videoShow transcriptHide transcript
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[02:02:54] Motion passes. [02:02:55] Next is 2017 City Hall Interior Carpet Removal and Replacement Project. [02:03:00] Ms. Manns? [02:03:01] Yes sir, Mr. Mayor. [02:03:03] As you know, the capital improvement budget this year included some improvements for the [02:03:13] City Hall building. [02:03:14] One of them specifically was replacement of the carpet on the first floor of the building. [02:03:21] In that respect, Mr. Rivera has obtained a quote in the amount of $81,052.12 for the [02:03:30] removal and the replacement of carpet. [02:03:33] The price is in accordance with the National Auto Joint Powers Alliance RFP number 121715. [02:03:42] And with your approval, we would like to go forward with the removal and replacement of [02:03:48] this item. [02:03:49] Open this up for public comment. [02:03:51] Seeing no one come forward, bring it back to council. [02:03:53] Move for approval. [02:03:54] Second. [02:03:55] Motion and a second to the maker. [02:03:56] I hope they're starting with the finance department, Crystal. [02:03:59] To the second. [02:04:00] No, it'll be nice to have that updated. [02:04:03] Thank you. [02:04:04] She's writing a check. [02:04:05] I'm sure that that's where we'll start. [02:04:08] Deputy Mayor? [02:04:09] Comments? [02:04:10] No, that's it. [02:04:11] Councilman Davis? [02:04:12] I'm likewise glad to see it done. [02:04:14] If there's no further discussion, all those in favor, please signify by saying aye. [02:04:17] Aye.
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Three Minute Report: Human Resources
The Human Resources department presented its three-minute report covering activity since October: 354 applications processed, 20 new hire orientations, property/casualty insurance renewal, re-implementation of the years of service recognition program, staff trainings, and wellness committee activities including the annual health fair, a smoking cessation class, and upcoming Relay for Life and Rapp River Run participation. Upcoming trainings on supervisor 101 and Florida Retirement System/DROP were also noted.
Public Risk ManagementVALIC Financial AdvisorsBernieAnnual Health FairCity Wellness CommitteeDROP programFlorida Retirement SystemHuman Resources ManualRapp River RunRelay for Life▶ Jump to 2:04:18 in the videoShow transcriptHide transcript
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[02:04:18] Opposed? [02:04:19] Like sign. [02:04:20] Motion passes. [02:04:21] Next is a three minute report from Human Resources. [02:04:25] Good evening, Mr. Mayor, members of City Council. [02:04:31] Since my last report in October, the HR department has processed 354 applications and conducted [02:04:37] 20 new hire orientations. [02:04:41] We have completed the renewal process for the city's property and casualty insurance [02:04:46] for fiscal year 2016 and 17. [02:04:50] Starting in conjunction with the city manager, the employee years of service recognition [02:04:54] program has been re-implemented. [02:04:59] Staff has participated in training sessions on harassment and discrimination, creating [02:05:04] a healthier organization and a medical carrier leadership panel. [02:05:11] A committee of city personnel is meeting weekly to review and suggest improvements to the [02:05:16] city's rules and regulations human resources manual. [02:05:20] On February 27th, the city's wellness committee sponsored its annual health fair at the recreation [02:05:27] center. [02:05:28] 26 vendors participated in the event and the committee is already working on next year's [02:05:32] event. [02:05:35] The wellness committee also sponsored a six-week smoking sensation class for city employees. [02:05:41] The committee will have city teams participating in the upcoming Relay for Life walk, which [02:05:47] is on Saturday, April 29th, and the Rap River Run, which is on Saturday, June 10th. [02:05:55] Upcoming citywide trainings from public risk management will focus on supervisor 101 training [02:06:03] and VALIC financial advisors will be conducting an educational workshop concentrating on the [02:06:10] Florida Retirement System and the DROP program. [02:06:14] This concludes my report and I'll be happy to answer any questions you guys may have. [02:06:18] Do you have any questions? [02:06:21] Good job, Bernie. [02:06:22] Thank you. [02:06:23] Thank you. [02:06:24] You're welcome. [02:06:25] At that point, let's go to communications and reports.
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