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   Pledge of Allegiance

   Pledge of Allegiance recited followed by a moment of silence honoring servicemen and women.

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   [00:00:21] I'd ask if you would all stand and join me in the Pledge of Allegiance, and [00:00:24] then remain standing for a moment of silence in honor of our servicemen and [00:00:28] women at home and abroad. [00:00:30] I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and [00:00:36] to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, [00:00:41] with liberty and justice for all.

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   Moment of Silence

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   [00:00:21] I'd ask if you would all stand and join me in the Pledge of Allegiance, and [00:00:24] then remain standing for a moment of silence in honor of our servicemen and [00:00:28] women at home and abroad. [00:00:30] I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and [00:00:36] to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, [00:00:41] with liberty and justice for all.

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   Approval of the May 17, 2016 Regular City Council Minutes

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   Council approved the minutes of the May 17, 2016 regular City Council meeting by voice vote with no discussion.

   • motion:Motion to approve the May 17, 2016 regular City Council meeting minutes. (passed)

   #May 17, 2016 Regular City Council Minutes

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   [00:00:51] Thank you, you may be seated. [00:00:52] Next item on the agenda is the approval of the May 17th regular city council [00:00:56] meeting minutes. [00:00:57] Move for approval. [00:00:58] Second. [00:01:01] Any discussion? [00:01:02] Hearing none, all those in favor, please signify by saying aye. [00:01:05] Aye. [00:01:05] Opposed, light sign. [00:01:07] Next, we have a proclamation which is going to be by title only. [00:01:11] I had the pleasure of signing this this evening, recognizing Gafiel Thomas, [00:01:16] who will be turning over the title of the City Council of the City of New Port Richey [00:01:20] Gafiel Thomas, who will be turning 100 years old on June the 19th. [00:01:26] And we'll be getting this proclamation to her. [00:01:29] I guess, no relation. [00:01:33] No, no relation. [00:01:34] I wish I had those jeans. [00:01:36] Next is a presentation on the Bodie River Basin Environmental Study. [00:01:42] Ms. Manns? [00:01:42] Yes, Mr. Mayor, members of the council. [00:01:45] We have Ms. Dana Gatos with us this evening,

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   Presentation: Pithlachascotee River Basin Environmental Study

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   GHS Environmental presented results of the Pithlachascotee River Basin Environmental Study, which sampled stormwater drainage basins to identify pollutant sources entering the Cody (Pithlachascotee) River. The study identified drainage basins 60, 87, 120, and 102 as priority areas with the highest pollutant loads (heavy metals, nutrients, total suspended solids), and detected caffeine in Echo Lake and Swan Lake suggesting septic tank influence. The presentation was informational; no formal action was taken.

   📍Craft Street area / south of Salt📍Echo Lake📍Grand Boulevard📍Highway 19📍James Gray Preserve📍Orange Lake📍Plath Road📍Rowan Road📍Sims Park📍Swan Lake🏢GHS Environmental🏢SWFWMD👤Brian👤Dana Gatos👤Mr. Rivera#1992 drainage coefficient study#Class 3 surface water standards#Drainage basin 102#Drainage basin 120#Drainage basin 126#Drainage basin 19#Drainage basin 60#Drainage basin 87#Drainage basin 92#Drainage basin 95#Heights neighborhood stormwater improvements#Meadows rehabilitation project#North Park stormwater improvements#Numeric Nutrient Criteria (NNC)#Orange Lake Feasibility Study#Pithlachascotee River Basin Environmental Study#Sims Park Improvements

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   [00:01:48] who is a senior environmental scientist with Gatos Hydro Services. [00:01:53] Mr. Rivera will introduce the agenda item, and [00:01:55] then we'll ask Ms. Gatos to do a short presentation. [00:02:00] Thank you, Mayor and Council. [00:02:02] The purpose of the study was to identify what types of point source [00:02:05] pollutions that were entering into the river and their locations. [00:02:10] Once we identified those, the pollutants, we [00:02:14] identified what water quality elements could be incorporated in our [00:02:20] stormwater capital project as well as our existing maintenance programs to be able [00:02:25] to reduce or to eliminate those pollutants. [00:02:28] And the final reason why we performed the study is it would also help us [00:02:33] in our possibility of a higher ranking as far as potential grants for those projects. [00:02:39] And so at this time, I'd like Dana to go over the report and [00:02:42] answer any questions you might have. [00:02:44] Thank you. [00:02:46] Hi, I'm Dana Gatos with GHS Environmental. [00:02:48] I don't know if you guys remember me or not, but I presented on the Orange Lake, [00:02:53] basically the pump down test that we did a couple years back. [00:02:56] Proved to be interesting. [00:02:58] So this is our next study that we did for the city. [00:03:03] Basically to go over just some things that the city's been doing, [00:03:07] I'm sure you're well aware of. [00:03:08] We did the Orange Lake Feasibility Study. [00:03:11] We've also done the Sims Park Improvements, which looks great, by the way. [00:03:15] We also have looked at doing stormwater improvements at the Heights neighborhood, [00:03:19] as well as at the Meadows, a rehabilitation project there. [00:03:23] And then we have actually been able to successfully get [00:03:27] cooperative funds from SWFMUD for the North Park stormwater improvements. [00:03:32] Again, the purpose of the study was to identify which areas of the city [00:03:37] were high pollutant loads and nutrient loads into the Cody River. [00:03:41] That runs through the center of downtown. [00:03:44] And this will help the stormwater engineers as they look at the next set of [00:03:49] plans to create how to also include remedies for these pollutant loading and [00:03:55] these particular sources of those pollutants. [00:04:00] What we basically did was we looked at all of the stormwater systems, [00:04:05] the drainage basins, we looked at the different outfalls that were directly to [00:04:09] the river, the size of those outfalls, how many outfalls in each drainage basins there [00:04:13] were, and we identified a top ten list. [00:04:16] And then out of those top ten lists, we selected these drainage basins to do [00:04:22] studies on, and we actually took two samples that were from the river itself. [00:04:28] One upstream of the sea limits and [00:04:30] then one downstream where the Highway 19 crosses over the Cody River. [00:04:35] And then we sampled a few in between and along the way. [00:04:38] There were several that we started out with and [00:04:41] sampled, particularly drainage basin number 92. [00:04:45] We sampled that one time and then concluded it was so close to drainage basin 87. [00:04:52] We dropped that and exchanged it for drainage basin 95. [00:04:55] Gave it a little bit more geographical spread over the city as well as different [00:04:59] land use, all the different land uses that were in it as we were looking at that as well. [00:05:06] We dropped the downstream location because that is mainly brackish water and [00:05:10] tidal, and so that initial sample showed up just to be saltwater. [00:05:14] So there was no real point to continue to sample that, so [00:05:16] we replaced that sample site with drainage basin number 19, [00:05:21] which is just the closest drainage basin and the most dense. [00:05:24] And it included runoff directly from Highway 19, so [00:05:27] we felt that that was very important as well. [00:05:33] We looked at all sorts of different things and [00:05:35] what was most important is basically your heavy metals and your nutrients. [00:05:39] And then we also took a look at some other herbicides and [00:05:44] pesticides as well as biologicals like coliform concentration. [00:05:48] That's for recreational purposes and swimming, things like that. [00:05:52] We looked at a lot of the physical parameters, pH, TDS, conductivity, [00:05:58] and all that fun stuff I'm sure you're very interested in. [00:06:01] We also used the city's rain gauges throughout the city. [00:06:06] There's a lot of rain gauges there, and we got a lot of good rain data, and [00:06:10] we were able to, with Brian's help, we were able to get signals every time [00:06:16] there was a rain event over a certain amount, it would text us, and then we'd [00:06:20] look at it and say if it was a good sample event, how far in between rain events had [00:06:24] been, and then we'd select whether we'd come sample based on the rain and [00:06:28] how much rain we were getting and things, and whether it was low tide or not. [00:06:32] We also took a look at the different land use, and I know this is really small, but [00:06:36] there's a lot of good information in the report about the different type of land [00:06:40] uses, the primarily, the biggest land use is low to medium residential. [00:06:49] And that's important. [00:06:51] And the second biggest land use is the commercial highway, [00:06:57] which is also very important for later on. [00:06:59] And the third is the downtown area. [00:07:02] And that all relates back to what we're trying to [00:07:05] figure out is what's providing the biggest sources. [00:07:08] So those are the three biggest sources per land use codes. [00:07:13] Here's just a table, on average, over the entire study, which is almost a year, [00:07:19] on average, the rainfall events averaged about 0.92 inches per event. [00:07:23] And they ranged from small, as you can see, as 0.08, [00:07:27] all the way up to the highest was 3.08 inches. [00:07:30] As we were looking at this. [00:07:35] This graphic down here, just to show you what we took, those are the contours of [00:07:40] where it rained the hardest on average over the entire city. [00:07:44] So this white, red is high, and then yellow, then goes down to the green. [00:07:50] So you can see, right over your, on average, over what we looked at for [00:07:53] that time period, the most rain fell in your downtown area, [00:07:58] your Orange Lake area drainage space in 87. [00:08:03] With that, we took a old study from 1992. [00:08:06] You had hired some engineers to look at how much water was actually gonna run off [00:08:11] your streets and go into your storm water system. [00:08:13] And they were ranked in use as drainage coefficients. [00:08:16] So we basically multiplied your rainfall times this coefficient, [00:08:20] times the size of the basin, and then times the concentration, [00:08:24] it's easy math, to get these average loading numbers. [00:08:29] These were, out of all the parameters that we tested for, which was a lot, [00:08:34] these were the ones that came up consistently, and [00:08:36] these were the ones that are typically found in storm water. [00:08:38] So there was nothing surprising in the results, but [00:08:42] these are the basic ones for heavy metals, consists of chromium, copper, lead, and [00:08:46] zinc, and then you have your basic nutrients, ammonia, total nitrogen, TKN, [00:08:51] which is a fancy name for organic and inorganic nitrogen, and [00:08:55] then orthophosphate and total phosphate. [00:08:57] Total suspended solids is just the stuff floating in the water that's not dissolved. [00:09:01] And that's important because that clogs up systems that carries heavy metals [00:09:06] attached to it that are dissolved in chemical nature, and [00:09:10] includes trash, all that stuff. [00:09:13] That table up there at the top identifies which basin had the highest load, [00:09:19] pounds per event, over the entire study period. [00:09:24] And we'll go through these in nice little graphics, but that's just a basic table. [00:09:30] So you can kind of see right here, you got a lot of bolding in drainage basin 60. [00:09:35] That was pretty much one of our primary drainage basins. [00:09:40] When we go to prioritize, that you'll see as a first on our list. [00:09:44] You know where 60 is off the top of your head? [00:09:46] 60 is going to be right there on the west side of the river, [00:09:50] about middle of the city, really close to Highway 19. [00:09:54] And so the next set of slides are the same [00:10:00] graphic with the same drainage basins, but the colors change [00:10:04] based on which basin had the highest loading. [00:10:07] So red is highest, green is low. [00:10:10] If it's just outlined, like in this graphic here, 87, that means it wasn't detected. [00:10:16] One of the things that I do want to, there's two points in all these graphics [00:10:20] that I want to point out. [00:10:21] 19, this little one right here, it attaches to Highway 19, [00:10:25] actually captures storm water off of Highway 19. [00:10:28] When you look at it on a parameter basis, it exceeds all the other parameters [00:10:33] because it captures all that storm water for 19. [00:10:36] But it's so small, when you actually do the math and calculate it out [00:10:40] times the rainfall, it actually comes up very low on the priority list [00:10:46] because of its size. [00:10:48] However, it does contribute a lot of pollutants overall, [00:10:52] just not as much because it's not a big area. [00:10:55] Does that make sense? [00:10:57] OK. [00:10:58] The other thing that I wanted to note, 87 includes Orange Lake. [00:11:03] What we did for those samples, because we thought it was very important, [00:11:07] well, I thought it was very important, we actually took the samples [00:11:09] from Orange Lake because that's basically a retention pond [00:11:12] before it goes into the river. [00:11:14] So some of these numbers, I would say, are kind of artificially low [00:11:20] because we didn't actually collect it from the storm water system. [00:11:23] We collected it from the lake. [00:11:25] But it still ranks really high on a lot of these parameters, [00:11:27] as we'll go through. [00:11:31] So 60 had the highest. [00:11:33] Here, it's yellow is medium. [00:11:34] What is the red one? [00:11:35] Isn't the red one higher? [00:11:36] It is. [00:11:37] It's not the highest for Chromium. [00:11:39] This is specific for Chromium. [00:11:40] Oh, OK. [00:11:41] OK. [00:11:42] A lot of the heavy metals come, the direct source is from gasoline combustion. [00:11:45] You're driving your car, coming from the gasoline. [00:11:48] So Chromium was really high in 120, this one down here. [00:11:54] You can't see the numbers very well. [00:11:56] And the last slide will show you the table. [00:11:59] 60, 87, and 120 are the highest ones. [00:12:03] You'll see those highlighted a lot as we flip through these slides. [00:12:08] Chromium is really, the main source is the gasoline combustion. [00:12:11] There are other things there that can contribute to it. [00:12:15] One thing that I do want to tell you, just coming out and collecting the samples, [00:12:19] there's like a little warehouse district right there that's pretty industrialized. [00:12:24] So that could potentially have these other sources here besides the gasoline. [00:12:28] It wasn't a very, I didn't notice a very high traffic pattern in that little area. [00:12:32] But where we were sampling, I did notice there's a lot of these little industrial warehouses. [00:12:37] So that could affect the Chromium. [00:12:40] That's on Craft Street or something? [00:12:42] Is that where we're at? [00:12:43] Yeah, we're just south of Salt. [00:12:46] OK. [00:12:47] That was just one thing that I noticed. [00:12:49] Here's copper. [00:12:50] Again, copper, gasoline combustion on all these heavy metals. [00:12:54] Copper piping, brake pads, algaecides. [00:12:58] You see the lakes that look blue? [00:13:00] That's copper. [00:13:01] High copper, 60. [00:13:03] Again, that's really commercial, high commercialized area. [00:13:07] Got a lot of traffic going through there. [00:13:10] We had a lot of traffic going in here. [00:13:12] That's one thing when we were taking samples. [00:13:14] We noticed how many cars were going past us. [00:13:16] We didn't necessarily count them. [00:13:17] But hey, there's more traffic here or less traffic here. [00:13:20] Other things that can contribute to are rooftop materials. [00:13:23] I don't know how many metal roofs there [00:13:25] are in the city of New Port Richey. [00:13:27] But I know that's an upcoming trend on new homes [00:13:30] or renovating homes, vehicle service and cleaning products, [00:13:33] wood preservatives. [00:13:35] Copper did exceed the class 3 standards [00:13:38] on the majority of the drainage basins [00:13:40] when you look at it just for our sample, [00:13:44] not over the entire basin. [00:13:46] Lead, again, mainly from gasoline combustion. [00:13:51] Here it comes from your main thoroughfare [00:13:53] going down Grand Boulevard right here, going to downtown. [00:13:57] And there's a lot of traffic right there. [00:13:59] So I can guarantee you it was gasoline. [00:14:02] And actually, it was a former gasoline additive [00:14:04] back in the day, prior to 1960s, 1980s. [00:14:09] But other gas. [00:14:11] And then paint would be it. [00:14:13] You can see with the colors. [00:14:15] You go back to 60 here, 120 there. [00:14:18] And you'll see that pattern as we flip through. [00:14:22] I think it comes from the metal surfaces, rooftops, [00:14:27] gutters, motor oil, brake pad dust. [00:14:31] I think also the fertilizers and pesticides [00:14:33] would break down. [00:14:35] And you can see that pattern. [00:14:37] Again, when you look at the parameter itself, [00:14:39] it did exceed the class 3 surface water standard. [00:14:42] You look specific at the drainage basin, [00:14:46] not overall average over the entire drainage basin. [00:14:51] 87 is pretty high up there, too. [00:15:00] Nitrogen. Again, 60, 87, 02. There's several different species of nitrogen. Ammonia, nitrate, nitrite, K-N, total nitrogen. [00:15:13] Main sources here would be plant and animal waste and fertilizers. I am going to point out failed septic systems. [00:15:21] That's a big deal in certain places. Then atmospheric deposition on the water surface. [00:15:29] This exceeded the NNC, that's the Numeric Nutrient Criteria, and that was exceeded all the way through the city. [00:15:38] Even the water coming down the river exceeded this NNC concentration. We're just adding to it. [00:15:48] Phosphorus. There's two types of phosphorus. Orthophosphate and total phosphorus. [00:15:53] This is actually total phosphorus because it includes orthophosphate. A7 is the highest one there. [00:16:00] The nutrient of concern is actually phosphorus versus nitrogen. It used to be nitrogen a few years ago, [00:16:07] but they're finding that algae blooms are spurred more because they're limited by the phosphorus versus nitrogen in the system, [00:16:14] so they'll grow out up until how much phosphorus is in the system, and then they stop. [00:16:21] Again, fertilizers, vegetation. Actually, gasoline combustion actually adds phosphorus to the system as well. [00:16:28] The last slide here would be full suspended solids. Again, 60, 120, 102, 87 degrees. [00:16:41] But again, as I explained earlier, that's the solid material flushed away. [00:16:45] It can include rocks and gravel, trash, soils. [00:16:51] What's important about CSS is all the other stuff that we went through, all the heavy metals, [00:16:56] all the nutrients attach onto that material. [00:16:59] Other things we talked about were in a dissolved form. This is a solid form. [00:17:04] All that dissolved stuff attaches onto it and moves down the system with it. [00:17:09] It's carriers, and so that's why it's so important to look at because, again, here you go. [00:17:14] You have 60, 120, 102. Those are your big contributors. [00:17:19] We took all the data, and this is a very brief summary of what we looked at. [00:17:25] I think we had over 2,600 data points of just laboratory analysis that we went through, [00:17:30] along with all the data that we collected from the field. [00:17:33] We put together basically our priority list of which drainage basins should be prioritized. [00:17:40] We looked at land use, you can see. [00:17:44] The two main ones are residential and then the highway and the commercial. [00:17:48] And then we identified which ones had the highest contributing loads. [00:17:52] So 60, as you saw, was read almost on like five out of the seven slides that I just showed you, [00:17:58] followed by 120. [00:18:01] I put 87 up there, higher than 120, because we actually sampled from Orange Lake. [00:18:07] So we didn't sample the stormwater system itself, we sampled the lake. [00:18:11] So that gets a dilution factor. [00:18:14] I personally, as a scientist, think 87 is a little bit more important than the 120. [00:18:18] It's also more important because that's the center of your downtown. [00:18:21] You've got Sims Park there, you've got Cody River there, you've got your boat ramp there. [00:18:25] If you're going to focus on cleaning out the area, focus on where your people are going to be. [00:18:30] And then followed by 120, and then 102, which is off of Grand Boulevard. [00:18:35] 120 was that little warehouse district that we talked about. [00:18:38] 19 was the small, really small basin. [00:18:41] See, it was only 8.6 acres compared to 87, which was 22.5. [00:18:46] But that was picking up all your highway runoff, which was highly pollutant and polluted. [00:18:52] And then 95, 92, which is what we sampled at 1.5, and then 126. [00:18:58] That was just primarily our residential use there, and it didn't have too many high loads. [00:19:05] As a little subset study inside of this, we were wanting to see different potential impacts to your river. [00:19:15] Our upstream sample was taken off of the dock at James Gray Reserve. [00:19:20] Going back to the sources of nitrogen, since the upstream water coming downstream was high in nitrogen, [00:19:28] one of the big things is septic tanks. [00:19:31] And we know that this system right there is all on septic tanks, outside the creek limits. [00:19:37] And so we wanted just to see if there was a way that we could trace the septic tank discharge to the river. [00:19:43] What we did, a good human indicator, not nitrogen, because nitrogen comes from the environment as well, is caffeine. [00:19:51] We actually took samples at Echo Lake and this little lake right here, what I call Swan Lake, because it's got a swan boat in it. [00:19:59] I don't even think it's got a real name because it's just a retention pond, but I call it Swan Lake. [00:20:03] We actually found caffeine in that system. [00:20:06] In those systems, Echo Lake drains to the south and along the road here, Plath Road, and then south again straight to the river right there. [00:20:15] And then Swan Lake pops off over one of these canals, from what I understand. [00:20:19] And these canals drain to the river this way. [00:20:22] So we did a little side study with that. [00:20:26] So that was overall, I was told to present the data of our, the results of our research. [00:20:31] And however long that took, that is our considering. [00:20:36] You jumped from that spot at Great Preserve back to the part out of town. [00:20:42] What were your results there? [00:20:45] Or maybe I missed it. [00:20:46] The results at Great Preserve that you said off the docket. [00:20:50] This is where we're upstream. [00:20:51] We looked at all of the drainage, and this is on the report, to this upstream location, [00:20:59] upstream locations study to see what was already coming down, what was already pulsing down the river upstream of the city. [00:21:07] And then we were looking at all the drainage basins going into the river. [00:21:12] Yeah, but what did you find there? [00:21:14] That's what I'm kind of asking. [00:21:19] Because that's not too far off Rowan Road, and there's a lot of traffic on Rowan Road, a lot of traffic. [00:21:29] I could ask you a question. [00:21:31] In your report on page three for us, on the second paragraph, it's discussing, it says, [00:21:38] a herbicide parameter was detected, blah, blah, blah. [00:21:41] Fecal and coliform bacteria were present in high concentrations at all sampling events. [00:21:46] On average, fecal and total coliform was too numerous to count or had counts of, et cetera, et cetera. [00:21:51] That stands out to me. [00:21:53] Where does that mix in with the overall? [00:21:56] Coliform tends to increase when it rains. [00:22:01] It provides food for the bacteria, essentially. [00:22:04] And too numerous to count means when they're looking through a microscope to try to count the colonies. [00:22:09] Yeah, no, I didn't mean, what did that mean? [00:22:11] I meant the fact that that is, on average, the highest. [00:22:15] It means that there's a lot of food to feed those bacteria, and that's typical. [00:22:20] Oh, cool. [00:22:22] Pasco County, Pinellas County, they'll close their beaches down if the coliform is too high. [00:22:26] It's important on the recreational standpoint. [00:22:30] You don't want to allow people to go swimming in the river, Orange Lake, and these things, [00:22:35] if it's above 800 pounds or 100 milliliters. [00:22:39] And what would be the source for that? [00:22:41] They're naturally occurring in both the soils and in the environment. [00:22:45] And so, basically, they reproduce rapidly once the rain event, [00:22:47] because it's getting all that food, all those nutrients, and then they can. [00:22:51] It's basically a standard that we measure to see if it's suitable for swimming and or consumption. [00:22:57] Like with drinking water, you're not supposed to have any, zero. [00:23:01] So it's just kind of telling you how much food is coming and reacting. [00:23:05] One of the things that, another reason why you're getting results that are too numerous to count [00:23:10] and why I don't really speak on it a lot in the report is because the way we collected our samples, [00:23:15] we actually had buckets combined, and we had them sitting in the stormwater system, [00:23:20] so it would capture that first flush. [00:23:23] Due to certain, especially with the significant rainfall events last year that we had going out there [00:23:28] and that these things are in the middle of the streets, [00:23:30] we had to collect our samples at particular times for safety issues as well as flooding issues [00:23:35] and things like that. [00:23:37] So allowing those bacteria to sit in those buckets for an extended period of time with that food source, [00:23:43] it was giving the really high results like that. [00:23:47] Okay, I'm sorry. Maybe I misunderstood. [00:23:50] Typically, you know, when you're reading a story about that, when they're talking about closing the beaches, [00:23:54] it's because there's septic tank, you know, and I know that within the city, we are on a sewer system. [00:24:02] Obviously, that East Lake States is contributing to whatever, and they're not. [00:24:09] So that's where I was thinking that this was coming from. [00:24:14] The source was more? [00:24:16] No, you can get it from everywhere. [00:24:19] The coliform bacteria, it's not an E. coli, which I think is what you're looking at. [00:24:24] Total coliform does include the E. coli, which is the human byproduct from the intestinal system. [00:24:32] Coliform includes all of that. [00:24:36] Let's see if I can explain this a different way. [00:24:40] It's present. Total coliform can come from birds, alligators, in the soils, bacteria, all of that. [00:24:48] So you can't identify a septic tank with the total coliform results. [00:24:54] Does that help? [00:24:56] Sort of. [00:24:59] I was thinking that fecal and coliform was specifically an excrement, and you're saying that's not necessarily human. [00:25:08] It doesn't measure human. [00:25:10] Okay, so this is not that. [00:25:12] Right. [00:25:13] So the fact that it can be in high concentrations is of no source of alarm or concern on our part. [00:25:22] It can come from birds, ducks, turtles, alligators, that live in the soils, cats, dogs, exactly. [00:25:29] And they don't just come from intestinal tracts. [00:25:33] They can actually grow in water. [00:25:35] Like you can grow it in a little petri dish if given the right food, [00:25:39] which is why it's a measurement that we do analyze for in addition with all the other ones. [00:25:43] You have to take all of them together and primarily look at them collectively to look at the total impact. [00:25:50] So that was why we collected it. [00:25:52] But the way that we collected it with the buckets, they actually tended to breed. [00:25:57] Like a petri dish, you can breed them. [00:25:59] So that's why they were getting too numerous to count numbers regularly. [00:26:04] And the other question I had is does the Sunnybrook—what is the name of that condominium complex? [00:26:13] Cecilia? [00:26:14] Yeah, that's the Sunnybrook. [00:26:15] Sunnybrook? [00:26:16] Sunnybrook, yeah. [00:26:17] Does that—they have—essentially I'm thinking, I'm not sure if it's a sinkhole or whatever, [00:26:22] but that water then comes under the road and goes into, I'm not sure, the Anclote or our river. [00:26:29] But was that part of the—I know they're within the city limits. [00:26:34] Is that part of what you were looking at? [00:26:36] Or are you specifically the— [00:26:38] It's the Chescote. [00:26:39] Oh, I can't see that. [00:26:41] It's on Cecilia. [00:26:43] On Cecilia and— [00:26:45] East of Madison. [00:26:46] Ackerman. [00:26:49] Madison, right here. [00:26:51] North, south. [00:26:52] You got Cecilia right there? [00:26:55] Is that Cecilia? [00:26:57] I don't even know if it's on there. [00:26:59] No, I don't think it is. [00:27:00] It's way south of there. [00:27:03] So the red line shows the city limits. [00:27:06] So if it's south of the Pierson River, Pierson River will be water. [00:27:18] It's not on the map. [00:27:22] I think that's actually county, anyhow. [00:27:25] It's in the city. [00:27:26] Yeah, but I think the pond actually is controlled by the county. [00:27:29] I think it's a challenge for us because we've been dealing with that, but that's a conversation for another day. [00:27:37] Because Ackerman, which is just west of that, is actually in the county. [00:27:43] Correct. [00:27:45] Ackerman and that body of water, that canal, is Pasco County, and then Sunnybrook is in the city. [00:27:52] Ultimately, this is a tool. [00:27:54] As you move forward as a city, as you make your decisions on how you're going to, I know primarily the objective is to focus on flooding. [00:28:01] But while you're focusing on your flooding issues, you can also take a look at what parameters are here, what concentrations that they are. [00:28:07] And as you design or retrofit or maintain your maintenance work, you'll be able to look at this and use this as a tool. [00:28:16] Because you can work in mitigation issues if you're going to do retention ponds or fix things or put the units. [00:28:25] That's in the CDS units. [00:28:27] You can identify which parameters are your biggest contributors in specific areas, and you can mitigate for that as you move forward. [00:28:36] Even though it's a lot of data, that's what this report is containing. [00:28:40] So you can use it as you move forward in your next steps in your decision planning.

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   Presentation: 2015/2016 Downtown Landscaping Improvements Design Project

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   Jim Gilman of the Genesis Group presented a conceptual design for the 2015/2016 Downtown Landscaping Improvements Project, including median plantings on Main Street, transplanting existing Drake Elms, replacing the chain-link fence at the Old Main/Main Street retention pond with vinyl/dipped fencing, and tree replacement downtown. Council discussed concerns about fence material quotes (aluminum vs vinyl), shade vs visibility tradeoffs between palms and canopy trees, plant species selection, fire truck turning radius at the bullnose near the fire station, and consistency with US-19 median plantings. No formal vote was taken; this was a presentation/discussion.

   • direction:Council directed staff to obtain additional fence material price quotes (including aluminum from AlumaGard) before finalizing the fence selection. (none)

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   [00:28:47] Thank you. Any other questions? [00:28:49] Thank you very much. [00:28:50] Thank you very much. [00:28:53] Next item is a presentation on the Downtown Landscaping Improvements Design Project. [00:28:58] Yes, Mr. Mayor, members of the City Council, we have Mr. Jim Gilman of the Genesis Group here this evening to present and discuss the Downtown Landscaping Improvement Project. [00:29:11] Robert Rivera will introduce the agenda item, and then we'll ask Mr. Gilman to show us the work that's been conducted so far. [00:29:20] Thank you, Mayor and Council. [00:29:22] The scope of work for this project includes the downtown parking lot frontage improvements, the transplanting of the existing Drake Elms downtown over to the existing stormwater pond located at Main Street and Old Main Street. [00:29:38] And along the Grand Boulevard Railroad right-of-way that is just south of Cecilia Drive to the city limits. [00:29:46] It also includes the removal of the existing galvanized fence around the retention pond at Old Main and Main and replacing that with the black vinyl fencing and the planting of appropriate trees downtown. [00:30:00] down for an urban setting. [00:30:02] And finally, the ground cover upgrades and all the medians located on Main Street. [00:30:07] Can I interrupt you real quick? [00:30:08] Yes sir. [00:30:09] The, as you know, I've brought it up numerous times that, that retention [00:30:14] pond areas as you enter the city from East Main is just a pet peeve of mine. [00:30:18] I think it just is very trashy looking. [00:30:21] The grass around that area is pretty much weeds. [00:30:23] I'm not concerned with the grass inside the retention pond. [00:30:26] I asked Debbie about this when I first read this. [00:30:28] I'm thinking vinyl fence. [00:30:31] What you're proposing is just a dipped. [00:30:33] Correct, correct. [00:30:34] They just call it vinyl, but we'd like that. [00:30:37] We didn't even get a quote though for the aluminum fencing. [00:30:40] I mean, the founder of AlumaGards is a New Portage City resident. [00:30:42] He's in Rotary with us. [00:30:44] Oftentimes they have leftover fencing from very large projects. [00:30:48] And I'm sure he could, you know, at least get us the best quote possible. [00:30:52] Did we not even explore that option? [00:30:54] We could look into that. [00:30:55] What we did do is we just finished the multi-use path over at the Riverwalk and we took that [00:31:01] pricing that we had from that project and compared it to the black fencing that we're [00:31:05] talking about. [00:31:07] And I'll get you those numbers. [00:31:09] I don't want to speak, but it was more expensive by a great amount. [00:31:14] Okay. [00:31:15] Well, I can get you Bill Woodard's number if you'd like at least to see if he has, you [00:31:18] know, give him the linear feet that would be needed along with the gate that opens and [00:31:24] at least get a price before, you know, the dip fence is going to be much, much nicer [00:31:29] than the chain link, but I was a little disappointed we didn't at least get a quote and just have [00:31:33] us something to compare it to. [00:31:35] At this point, we're introducing design concept to you so it's not too late so we can obtain [00:31:41] some price quotes on some additional fence materials. [00:31:44] Thank you. [00:31:46] Mr. Goodman? [00:31:55] Good evening. [00:31:56] I'm Jim Gilman from Genesis and I'm a landscape architect and a planner and thank you for [00:32:02] the opportunity to be here. [00:32:09] Go ahead and get started. [00:32:14] This is a map. [00:32:16] E-map. [00:32:19] The area along Main Street and in the downtown core. [00:32:25] And the eastern gateway, and also the southern gateway, which is actually just off of Manhattan. [00:32:34] And the eastern gateway, and also the southern gateway, which is actually just off of Manhattan. [00:32:46] I have about 2,000 feet of sunshine. [00:32:50] Black is. [00:32:52] Then following this, the color scale maps of each area. [00:32:58] Then following that, illustrative enhancements to the material and the core after area. [00:33:17] West of the river along Main Street, we were tasked with looking at the medians themselves. [00:33:25] Also, the roadside medians just to the west. [00:33:38] We also looked at infilling the sides of the road. [00:33:47] Of the structure of these illustrative additions, the right-hand corner showing the proposed [00:33:59] plan material. [00:34:01] In this case, this is for percolate as material. [00:34:05] This is confederate jasmine, which is a brown cover material. [00:34:10] This is red fountain grass, which is accent. [00:34:18] In this view, the existing addition photograph here, the proposed enhancement shown here, [00:34:27] and the view that we're looking at shown here. [00:34:34] What we're proposing here is to keep the existing framework in place. [00:34:40] We took the liberty of showing them in full. [00:34:43] But the real work of this is within the median. [00:34:51] We propose to take out the remnant plank here and replace it with brown cover on the tips [00:35:01] that are jasmine, and then load evergreen shrub material within the body of the median [00:35:10] that would form percolate. [00:35:13] And then to add in some accent planks, fountain grass. [00:35:20] This is a view of looking east toward the median. [00:35:26] That's just to the west. [00:35:29] Existing, before Ritchie's sign, existing canary island date pond. [00:35:37] And some planting on the compound. [00:35:43] And again, the approach here is to leave the overstory, leave the ponds in place, [00:35:51] and to concentrate our efforts on the compound. [00:35:55] The proposed permanent material is for consistency. [00:35:59] There's some repetition purposely. [00:36:02] We have red fountain grass. [00:36:05] We have bermudra holly. [00:36:07] We have embedded jasmine. [00:36:10] Also, a pond. [00:36:16] We also added in another plant material, some society garlic, [00:36:20] which does well in an aerobic situation. [00:36:23] Stays low and looks pretty good in this year. [00:36:31] One other thing that we were asked to do was to eliminate sod, [00:36:36] because sod poses an antenna. [00:36:39] So as you can see, sod here has taken away the condition. [00:36:44] And we would propose that it be an antenna. [00:36:51] And you can see in the background, part of a small roadside median [00:36:56] as I mentioned earlier. [00:36:58] And the next image we'll talk about is the compound. [00:37:02] So here is our existing compound. [00:37:07] Go on while you're on that slide. [00:37:10] Of course, you're across the street. [00:37:13] It might be a perfect time for Captain Fitch or Chief Fitch [00:37:20] to give you some suggestions or us, [00:37:24] especially about the bullnose that you're talking about taking the grass out. [00:37:29] Might be a perfect time to talk about what we could do to restructure [00:37:33] that particular bullnose, because I don't know about you, [00:37:38] I've got a Ford Taurus and it's hard enough making that left-hand turn. [00:37:42] I don't know how you do it in a fire truck, [00:37:45] but I'd like to make sure that those travel paths are a little bit better. [00:37:49] And we've talked about that parking anyway, [00:37:56] if we're going to mess with the front part of that particular planning area, [00:38:02] we ought to try to make it less of an obstacle. [00:38:07] I have a brother-in-law who's a fire captain in Kansas City, [00:38:11] and they've instituted a lot of those European parking circles. [00:38:20] And I will tell you that for safety reasons, [00:38:24] they just barrel over them now. [00:38:29] So if we're going to address planning in that area, [00:38:33] we ought to look at how that turnstuff goes for our safety vehicles [00:38:38] in conjunction with that. [00:38:41] And if the creek don't rise and everything goes well, [00:38:45] that will be under construction again. [00:38:48] And once they start the evolution of that property, [00:38:52] we're going to figure out what it's going to be like [00:38:54] to have 90 apartment complexes there. [00:38:57] So I would not like to do something, [00:39:00] and then two years later come back and look at it again. [00:39:03] So I'm trying to dovetail some of your things into life safety. [00:39:10] We created a dynamic downtown where we have a lot more traffic, [00:39:15] which we'll talk to when you get there. [00:39:18] But with that comes the advent of creating more obstacles for ourselves, [00:39:25] and I really don't like spending the same money over and over again [00:39:29] as a course of action. [00:39:32] And the only other thing I'd ask is, Robert, [00:39:34] have you shared with Mr. Gilman the plant material types [00:39:38] that were proposed on 19 at some of the medians there? [00:39:43] Because I know there was some peanut element. [00:39:47] There was a peanut. [00:39:49] I can't remember. [00:39:51] You know the name of the plant peanut, son? [00:39:53] The what? [00:39:54] Perennial peanuts. [00:39:55] So if we're looking to define New Port Richey, [00:40:01] I want to use eight different material types, [00:40:04] like for it to maybe blend together, [00:40:07] because we've talked about that a little bit. [00:40:09] So I don't know if, Sharon, you can give us your thoughts, [00:40:11] good, bad, or different, as opposed to a 19 median structure [00:40:15] as it would blend into what you're doing. [00:40:18] But if we're taking our borders to come that way, [00:40:21] I'd just like to make it look like there was some thought given to 19, [00:40:25] Maine, and some of the other elements. [00:40:27] It may not play, but I would rather not be looking at it [00:40:32] and talking about it later. [00:40:33] So those are my thoughts. [00:40:34] Thanks. [00:40:37] You were provided with appropriate, distinctive differences in the atmosphere. [00:41:06] One of the reasons that we brought up the peanut plant, [00:41:08] because he billed it as flowering a lot more months of the year [00:41:13] with this yellow flower. [00:41:16] Didn't use peanut. [00:41:19] That's exactly why. [00:41:28] Done. [00:41:31] Plastic jar. [00:41:39] Plantic. [00:41:42] When it looks bad, it looks very bad. [00:41:45] Well, we didn't get that, Billy. [00:41:47] As opposed to a Jasmine, I think, that is heartier and more stable. [00:41:56] Green. [00:41:59] Grow in me. [00:42:03] And it's in you. [00:42:04] Accurate. [00:42:06] Best of you. [00:42:08] Very good. [00:42:12] That's kind of quiet. [00:42:21] Subject. [00:42:22] Change of course. [00:42:36] Idaho. [00:42:39] Solitary. [00:42:50] So one more thing. [00:42:58] Opposing. [00:43:00] Interplanting. [00:43:02] Palm sun. [00:43:09] Couple of. [00:43:14] All. [00:43:21] Also. [00:43:27] Ifas. [00:43:35] Perhaps. [00:43:38] Second tier. [00:44:00] Planting. [00:44:14] Also. [00:44:28] Approved. [00:44:32] Appropriate. [00:44:35] Also. [00:44:51] Here. [00:45:00] Should they be capped at wintertime or just let them grow up and do their thing? [00:45:30] They're pretty strong. [00:45:36] Down to static and structural cleaning is... [00:45:41] Hopping them, holidaying them. [00:45:44] Don't think of it. [00:45:50] An advantage of doing it, you probably get. [00:45:54] But... [00:45:59] Thank you. [00:46:29] And that's what we're trying to do. [00:46:37] A thin trunked pond, like this little building, is robust enough. [00:46:43] I don't think it's going to be a clear trunk. [00:46:48] Quite upright and structured. [00:46:55] Can I ask you a question there? [00:46:59] I have the unique perspective of being on council back in the 90s, [00:47:03] when we dreamed up the quieting mechanism of streetscaping in New Port Richey. [00:47:10] So, unfortunately, I have to use that old... [00:47:13] Back then, the process was to slow everything down. [00:47:18] You know, this will be the third or the fourth time we've changed trees out? [00:47:23] At least the third. Fourth. [00:47:26] And the only place that the oak trees have left us in great stead [00:47:30] is in front of our... [00:47:32] From here down to, basically, to Christina's and stuff. [00:47:39] Has the thought been given, or has there been... [00:47:43] At some point, we took away letting the buildings speak for themselves. [00:47:50] You look at all the historical photographs in New Port Richey, [00:47:53] the buildings spoke for themselves. [00:47:55] When you go to Charleston, they speak for themselves. [00:47:59] I just recently was in Hermosa Beach, California, [00:48:02] and we always want to be like the West Coast, [00:48:05] or we perceive ourselves that way sometimes. [00:48:09] And I shared some information with the new Main Street Director [00:48:12] and also with Ms. Manns about the opportunity of possibly [00:48:17] reducing the number count of trees in those corridors. [00:48:24] And I appreciate the erectness and the height and all that, [00:48:29] so that we can enhance the money we get people to do their facades [00:48:34] so the buildings speak. [00:48:36] But over and above that is creating a little less claustrophobicness. [00:48:42] I don't think that's a word, but I'm using it tonight. [00:48:45] Because as you come down and get over the bridge, [00:48:48] and because of all the things we've done, [00:48:50] people are looking to the left at Sims Park and then at Hacienda, [00:48:54] then you're on Bank Street. [00:48:56] And then if you're trying to find a business, [00:48:58] first of all, you can't see an address, [00:49:01] and you become distracted, and you feel claustrophobic, [00:49:07] you're worried about people pulling out. [00:49:09] So my question is, is there a thought of lessening [00:49:16] the number of trees along that route? [00:49:20] You can still use the grates. [00:49:22] You can do some lower elements, I'm sure, and not eliminating them. [00:49:27] Or if somebody gets creative and wants to do memorial monuments, [00:49:31] I don't care. [00:49:32] I'm just wondering if there's any thought, [00:49:36] since we're in the planning stages, [00:49:38] what the thought would be since we're giving money out [00:49:42] to do facade improvements and things, [00:49:44] just because we're not the experts, [00:49:47] and everybody usually backs off and says, [00:49:52] well, what does the expert say in 2016 as opposed to 1992, [00:49:57] and where are we at? [00:49:59] Looking at trying to find some ways to let the two blend together. [00:50:04] And in Hermosa Beach, they did that. [00:50:07] They reduced the number, still had a little bit of the feel, [00:50:11] but it also allowed the businesses to have a little more face time, [00:50:17] as well as it reduced the amount of tightness you felt [00:50:22] when you were driving your car. [00:50:23] So that's just thoughts. [00:50:25] I'd probably go the other direction, and palms aren't it. [00:50:31] Those are providing no shade whatsoever, [00:50:34] and that's been a critical issue downtown. [00:50:36] We've got great shade here. [00:50:38] We've got nothing. [00:50:39] It's a desert, starting at Adams Street [00:50:41] and going all the way out to US-19. [00:50:44] If you could find somebody to buy the Washingtonians [00:50:48] before they get sick and die, [00:50:50] I'd be willing to vote to sell them, get them out of here, [00:50:54] and put in something that actually provided some shade [00:50:57] so people could walk on the sidewalks. [00:51:00] I think this goes backwards. [00:51:04] The Greek elms are awful, [00:51:07] but I'm not sure that switching to a palm tree [00:51:11] that provides zero shade is going to be an improvement. [00:51:15] Were you looking for shade then? [00:51:17] Absolutely. [00:51:18] We are not going to get people to walk down our sidewalks [00:51:21] and go into any of the businesses that we'd like to recruit down there [00:51:26] if it's 150 degrees with zero shade anywhere in downtown. [00:51:31] That's the problem. [00:51:32] Mr. Gilman, what are your thoughts as far as shade goes, [00:51:35] as far as what type of oak trees, what type of shade-type trees we fit in, [00:51:40] and those are built in the sidewalk? [00:51:43] Excuse me, Jim, could you speak into the microphone? [00:51:47] Thank you. [00:51:49] After looking at downtown and walking, getting familiar with it, [00:51:55] and assessing the width of the sidewalk [00:51:57] and the heights of the buildings and so forth, [00:52:00] I 100% agree those Drake elms are not functioning. [00:52:04] They're the wrong species. [00:52:06] It's a good decision to get rid of them. [00:52:09] If you go to—here's the problem. [00:52:15] Available space, businesses desire to be visible passing by. [00:52:25] The advantage of palms are that it opens up a street [00:52:30] and all those facades are visible. [00:52:33] Disadvantage is that they're not providing shade just as that. [00:52:39] I think that a decision to go with a palm array like this [00:52:45] would probably be followed by a decision to encourage businesses to put awnings. [00:52:52] That's real shade. [00:52:54] If you go with an oak planting or something else that provides real shade along here, [00:53:01] the challenge is how do you convince your retailers to stop serving? [00:53:08] That's 22. [00:53:11] In an ideal world, if I were king, I would put palms in, [00:53:16] find a way to encourage or even assist awnings. [00:53:25] I think that's the best. [00:53:27] I don't know how you get there. [00:53:30] What are your thoughts with Mr. Phelps as far as the spacing? [00:53:33] Did you feel claustrophobic driving through downtown? [00:53:35] Do you think there's space too close together? [00:53:37] Because you are the expert. [00:53:38] I don't think so. [00:53:39] I think that the next slide might help show you what I mean. [00:53:45] This is a view, obviously, from across the street. [00:53:52] The size of the heads of the palms in relation to the size of the Drake Elm heads [00:53:57] when they're in foliage in the summertime, much smaller. [00:54:03] So you've reduced the mass foliage substantially to a palm as a whole. [00:54:13] Certainly we could remove every other palm if that's your decision. [00:54:19] Don't feel as though a diminutive palm like that with a – [00:54:23] I don't think the head of that palm will ever exceed a pretty tidy and compact. [00:54:35] But certainly, yes, that's your desire. [00:54:38] We could remove every other palm, something, and do something else. [00:54:43] Yes, we could. [00:54:45] And still end up with a nicely finished product. [00:54:49] My opinion is go with a palm with a small head like that that probably – [00:54:57] So there's no tree that is, for lack of a better word, a dwarf tree [00:55:01] that would grow about the same height as those palms but provide shade [00:55:06] because it is blistering in the summer. [00:55:09] We're trying to create a walkable downtown, and it is walkable, [00:55:13] except you need an umbrella or – [00:55:17] Well, so the challenge is pick a species who are at a size that still can be limbed up [00:55:26] to, say, eight or nine high without, for lack of a better term, looking like a Q-tip, [00:55:34] just out of scale because it's got so much trunk and such a small head. [00:55:39] That's the challenge. [00:55:41] We talked about great myrtle. [00:55:45] We talked about holly. [00:55:47] We talked about hodocarpus. [00:55:50] There are lots of things that could go in place here, [00:55:55] but all of it's going to be a challenge. [00:55:59] And say, for instance, you decide to place oak. [00:56:03] Ten or 15 years, my opinion is the folks are going to have to get to that. [00:56:08] Too big. [00:56:09] Because they won't be happy there. [00:56:14] We try to – that's what you see we started here. [00:56:18] That's what was put into the entire downtown, [00:56:21] and they did not survive for a multitude of reasons. [00:56:26] But, you know, the tallness and the slenderness of the palm is okay. [00:56:34] I'm just trying, as you pointed out, when you recruit a retailer, [00:56:41] he wants visibility, they want traffic, they want parking ratio, [00:56:48] and in some cases we begin to plant elements in front of them [00:56:54] after they've gotten here. [00:56:56] Once again, we're viewed as an obstacle and not a conduit. [00:57:02] Here's a suggestion to you. [00:57:07] I think that if palms is the direction that the city chooses to go, [00:57:12] there's probably a reasonable number of reasonables facing. [00:57:17] If you decide that palms is not the direction, [00:57:21] then perhaps a standard trunk, just a single trunk, [00:57:27] great myrtle and a large one, too, [00:57:29] they have to be 100-gallon trees to have seven or eight feet of their trunk, [00:57:35] and plant every other pre-grade instead of every tree. [00:57:40] I think that might be a viable alternative. [00:57:46] Reduce the number. [00:57:48] If you want to go with trees, don't plant as many. [00:57:51] So would crepe myrtles in the spring and summer provide shade, [00:57:55] and then in the winter when they are barren? [00:58:00] Right, exactly. [00:58:02] Trees in the summer, in the hot months, have some canopy. [00:58:07] It will take them a while to produce useful shade, frankly, [00:58:11] and plant large ones. [00:58:13] Eventually, yes. [00:58:15] In the wintertime they would be bare, which is not a bad thing. [00:58:23] You could even stagger them, palm crepe myrtle, palm crepe myrtle, [00:58:26] if it's not too much. [00:58:29] Could it be done? [00:58:31] The disadvantage of that is one is missing. [00:58:35] It's pretty obvious. [00:58:38] I think in some of the problems that we've had with some of the trees [00:58:41] that we've planted is the businesses that have the canopies [00:58:45] were always out there trying to prune those trees [00:58:48] because the branches with the wind going back and forth [00:58:51] will tear into that canopy material every now and then. [00:58:55] Then you get a tree that's pruned in one direction, [00:58:59] heavy on one side versus the other. [00:59:01] We're constantly out there trying to find a happy medium [00:59:05] when it comes to those types of trees. [00:59:07] If you put the larger shade trees in, then I don't know if you've noticed, [00:59:11] but some of the problems that we're running into is they get to a certain size [00:59:15] and they start tearing up the curving, the roadway, those types of things. [00:59:20] Then now we're talking about expensive repairs to the system. [00:59:25] We've got a couple areas that we're going to have to address. [00:59:28] When we were all discussing some of the different types, [00:59:31] we were trying to find a tree that would fit that system [00:59:37] as well as talking about maybe some of the canopy structures [00:59:40] that would give you the immediate shade that you're looking for. [00:59:44] Did you say a single trunk crepe? [00:59:48] Yes. [00:59:51] It can be purchased from the commercial. [00:59:55] Putting a multi-trunk tree in a crepescape is a little challenging. [01:00:00] It's by the time I reach his chest high, it's multi-trunks across, single trunk just... [01:00:07] And I think that's the kind of thing that encourages the merchants going out there and trimming it themselves, [01:00:12] whereas if it's a single trunk, then it's just the upper branches that you're talking about. [01:00:18] It's going to be quite a challenge. [01:00:21] I've never seen the options, and I don't know what it's going to come down to. [01:00:24] It's going to come down to just like when we were talking about Sims Park. [01:00:29] It was 3-2. [01:00:31] Three beats two every day, and you move on down the road, [01:00:35] and eight, ten years from now, somebody else sitting up there that wants to get elected [01:00:41] and come up and do their thing can do that. [01:00:43] You can run it out to the public four or five times. [01:00:45] We'll get 15, 20 people to show up per meeting. [01:00:49] Once we put it in, they'll go, [01:00:51] God, why didn't you reach out and let us know what you were doing? [01:00:54] We shot off flares, we put up a beacon, we invited you to come down, [01:00:58] we gave you coffee, we gave you donuts, we walked you around the park, [01:01:01] we did all this stuff, but you didn't include me. [01:01:05] And you're like, we've been down the road a number of times. [01:01:08] So having the options to look at, because we all have different... [01:01:12] The mayor has a business downtown. [01:01:15] He has it with the nasty elms in front, and rightfully so. [01:01:22] They've prospered there, and the other parts of the city they haven't. [01:01:27] Just trying to find the balance. [01:01:29] And evolutionary in the city, we've gone to a very dynamic downtown, [01:01:37] one that had mainly bars, and now we're starting to make our way back [01:01:42] with all the things that are going on. [01:01:44] But we're trying to figure out where those balance points are. [01:01:47] Getting rid of the elms is a good thing. [01:01:52] The ones we've got, quite frankly, look like they've got Hansen's. [01:01:56] They're multi-trunk, and they are filthy. [01:02:00] They are just absolutely nasty, as dirty as shit could ever have been. [01:02:07] Every time the wind blows, all that crap blows in front door of our store. [01:02:12] Perennially vacuuming the trunk. [01:02:15] They look awful. [01:02:17] They're growing into the grapes at the point where somebody's going to have to go in [01:02:23] and hatch it and try to hack the grapes for it. [01:02:28] Got to do something. [01:02:29] So those trees by you, Mayor, are drake elms? [01:02:32] And what are the ones that are south of Main on Grape? [01:02:35] They're drake elms as well. [01:02:38] The difference between where the mayor's at, though, [01:02:41] those tree grapes are probably twice the size of the ones that are on Main Street. [01:02:46] So if you were looking for a shade tree like a grape or something like that, [01:02:50] you could probably plant one of those in that block. [01:02:53] That was streetscape phase one when we were trying to figure out [01:02:56] how we wanted to do the rest of downtown. [01:02:59] We had a lot of money. [01:03:00] Yeah, a lot of money, man. [01:03:02] We really had big openings, man. [01:03:04] We wanted Cadillac and everything. [01:03:06] But those sidewalks and those tree grapes were a lot larger, [01:03:09] so your options of different types of trees are probably larger [01:03:13] versus Main Street where it's a narrow corridor. [01:03:17] Yeah, or something with a canopy, [01:03:21] particularly if we had one that extended the length of the sidewalk, [01:03:25] would be worth looking at and sitting and thinking about. [01:03:29] There's some options, but go ahead. [01:03:40] The next slide I'll talk about urban debris parking lot. [01:04:02] So the existing condition is pretty bare. [01:04:06] It's not very kind of urban at all. [01:04:14] Ozel is the place. [01:04:36] Buffer right of way. [01:04:40] And to add in front of that. [01:04:44] Similar. [01:04:49] Also add. [01:04:59] Yeah. [01:05:05] Yeah. [01:05:11] Next slide. [01:05:20] So the existing condition here. [01:05:23] Turf and parking. [01:05:27] And back. [01:05:30] Can you orient me to what is that? [01:05:33] Where is that? [01:05:35] You're standing at Fitzgerald. [01:05:37] Oh, thank you. [01:05:38] I know where that is. [01:05:40] So what we propose to do here is pretty simple. [01:05:43] Place a hedge. [01:05:46] Also at least one tree here, but pretty poor condition. [01:05:51] Other than that, these are existing Drake Elm. [01:05:55] Existing Crape Myrtle. [01:05:58] Going in summer flush after plant material. [01:06:04] Drake Elm, this location. [01:06:08] Hedge. [01:06:12] This is the Gloria Swanson parking lot. [01:06:15] South and west of Sims Park. [01:06:18] The existing condition. [01:06:21] You probably know. [01:06:24] Pretty stark. [01:06:27] Bare earth. [01:06:30] Roots of the trees. [01:06:33] Right up in the middle. [01:06:36] Bare earth. [01:06:39] Roots of the trees. [01:06:42] Right up at this. [01:06:45] Concrete. [01:06:48] That view. [01:06:51] Proposed to do. [01:06:54] Plant this out. [01:06:57] Also. [01:07:01] Create these. [01:07:03] Biden. [01:07:06] Then also. [01:07:09] Hedge pre-plant. [01:07:12] Here. [01:07:14] And here. [01:07:17] Poms. [01:07:20] Proposed material. [01:07:23] Proposing to do. [01:07:27] These. [01:07:30] Hedge material. [01:07:44] Our. [01:07:47] Where. [01:07:50] Background. [01:07:53] Background. [01:07:56] Pretty good condition. [01:07:59] Proposing. [01:08:02] This planter. [01:08:05] Half planted. [01:08:08] The other half is. [01:08:11] Proposal here is very simple. [01:08:14] Add some more. [01:08:18] Also. [01:08:26] Take me. [01:08:34] Parking lot. [01:08:37] As in. [01:08:47] Pulse shape. [01:08:50] Jump here. [01:08:53] One. [01:08:56] A placement. [01:08:59] Going in. [01:09:02] Hedge. [01:09:05] And to add. [01:09:08] Maybe. [01:09:11] Now. [01:09:14] We're at. [01:09:17] What I. [01:09:20] Calling. [01:09:23] These. [01:09:26] Two. [01:09:29] Triangular areas. [01:09:32] Proposing. [01:09:35] Plant out. [01:09:38] Transplanted. [01:09:49] Existing. [01:09:59] Next slide. [01:10:03] Next slide. [01:10:13] This is. [01:10:19] This. [01:10:27] As many. [01:10:32] As many. [01:10:38] This. [01:10:44] So. [01:10:47] I will. [01:10:50] One. [01:10:53] Item of safety that. [01:10:56] I commend. [01:10:59] Different type of fence material. [01:11:02] At the. [01:11:04] Fairly small. [01:11:07] Young one. [01:11:10] Through there. [01:11:13] At a bank. [01:11:15] I think that's. [01:11:19] Next slide. [01:11:30] Now we're way south. [01:11:33] On ground. [01:11:42] Posing. [01:11:48] Next slide. [01:11:57] Ultimate. [01:12:04] I think we've got room here. [01:12:07] Especially. [01:12:10] Here. [01:12:19] Finds an opportunity to. [01:12:22] Make good use of those. [01:12:24] Area where they have enough. [01:12:29] And this is a cost estimate. [01:12:32] Little bit. [01:12:34] See. [01:12:36] Point out. [01:12:39] This figure here.

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8. 8.a

   April 25, 2016 Environmental Committee Minutes

   on consent

   Council pulled a payment to Kimley Horn in the amount of $78,778.14 from the consent agenda purchase payments for separate consideration.

   • direction:Remove the Kimley Horn payment of $78,778.14 from the consent agenda purchase payments.

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   [01:23:31] Next item we have coming up is the consent item mismatch. [01:23:34] You indicated we had an item that we were going to remove [01:23:37] from the purchase payments. [01:23:39] Yes, Mr. Mayor. [01:23:44] And it is a payment to Kimley Horn in the amount of $77,000. [01:23:54] I'm sorry, I'm flipping through my agenda. [01:23:56] There's one for $25,000 and one for $75,000. [01:24:00] $78,778.14.

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9. 8.b

   April 26, 2016 Police Pension Board Minutes

   on consent

   Council pulled a payment to Kimley Horn in the amount of $78,778.14 from the consent agenda purchase payments for separate consideration.

   • direction:Remove the $78,778.14 payment to Kimley Horn from the consent agenda purchase payments.

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   [01:23:31] Next item we have coming up is the consent item mismatch. [01:23:34] You indicated we had an item that we were going to remove [01:23:37] from the purchase payments. [01:23:39] Yes, Mr. Mayor. [01:23:44] And it is a payment to Kimley Horn in the amount of $77,000. [01:23:54] I'm sorry, I'm flipping through my agenda. [01:23:56] There's one for $25,000 and one for $75,000. [01:24:00] $78,778.14.

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10. 8.c

    April 12, 2016 Parks and Recreation Board Minutes

    on consent

    Consent agenda item; the City Manager flagged a payment to Kimley Horn in the amount of $78,778.14 to be removed from the purchase payments for separate consideration.

    • direction:Remove the Kimley Horn payment of $78,778.14 from the consent purchase payments. (none)

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    [01:23:31] Next item we have coming up is the consent item mismatch. [01:23:34] You indicated we had an item that we were going to remove [01:23:37] from the purchase payments. [01:23:39] Yes, Mr. Mayor. [01:23:44] And it is a payment to Kimley Horn in the amount of $77,000. [01:23:54] I'm sorry, I'm flipping through my agenda. [01:23:56] There's one for $25,000 and one for $75,000. [01:24:00] $78,778.14.

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11. 8.d

    Purchases/Payments for City Council Approval

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    Council pulled one Kimley Horn invoice ($77,778.14) from the consent agenda due to a mathematical error and approved the remainder of the consent agenda. Staff explained the other Kimley Horn invoice covered design services for the Recreation and Aquatic Center project rendered during an eight-month period before the project was suspended in September 2015.

    • motion:Move to approve the Consent Agenda minus the $77,778.14 invoice for Kimley Horn. (passed)

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    [01:24:05] One we're pulling from the agenda as a result of a mathematical error. [01:24:12] Could we get an explanation on the other one then? [01:24:15] What's that for? [01:24:18] The other Kimley Horn? [01:24:22] Yeah, sure. [01:24:24] The City Council entered into an agreement with Kimley Horn [01:24:28] on February 3rd of 2015 for design work for improvements [01:24:36] at the Recreation and Aquatic Center project. [01:24:40] The roughly eight months of time spanned from the time [01:24:46] of the original agreement for work. [01:24:53] We also amended their contract in July of 2015 [01:24:59] for additional services. [01:25:02] The project was suspended in September of 2015. [01:25:08] The amount being requested today is for services provided [01:25:12] during the eight-month period that elapsed prior to the [01:25:16] suspension of the project. [01:25:18] Thank you. [01:25:20] Any other questions or any items we want to pull on the [01:25:23] Consent Agenda other than that? [01:25:25] I'd entertain a motion. [01:25:27] Move to approve the Consent Agenda minus the $77,778.14 invoice [01:25:36] for Kimley Horn. [01:25:37] Do I have a second? [01:25:38] Okay. [01:25:40] All those in favor, please signify by saying aye. [01:25:42] Aye. [01:25:43] Opposed? [01:25:44] Like sign. [01:25:45] Okay. [01:25:46] Next item is public reading of ordinances. [01:25:49] And it is the first reading of an ordinance on general storage. [01:25:54] All right. [01:25:55] Ordinance 2016-2084, an ordinance of the city of Newport, [01:25:59] Virginia, Florida. [01:26:00] Chapter 15, public instances. [01:26:02] Section 15-001-0. [01:26:05] General storage on sanitary conditions for public use. [01:26:09] Deleting section 11-16, 11-17, 11-18. [01:26:14] Chapter 11 on fine for severance. [01:26:18] What we've done here is, in order to increase efficiency, [01:26:24] we took section 11, which dealt with the grass, [01:26:32] and we merged that into the public use. [01:26:34] So everything was in one spot. [01:26:37] I also included within the public use section 15, [01:26:44] prohibiting roosters being permitted within the city. [01:26:50] Just did some more housekeeping stuff. [01:26:52] Cleaned up some antiquated things regarding maintenance of the property. [01:26:57] That was no longer there. [01:27:00] We'll answer questions you have regarding this. [01:27:03] Very good. [01:27:04] This is a first reading, and we'll open it up for public comment. [01:27:10] Seeing no one come forward, close public comment. [01:27:12] Bring it back to council. [01:27:13] Move for approval. [01:27:14] Second. [01:27:15] To the maker? [01:27:16] No, sir. [01:27:17] That's a second. [01:27:19] Councilwoman? [01:27:20] Yeah, there were just a couple of ‑‑ [01:27:22] I know you're going to have to rewrite this, [01:27:24] but there were just a couple of probably typos. [01:27:27] Okay. [01:27:28] Scrap. [01:27:29] In section, it says scrap general public instances, [01:27:34] A, roofing materials, scarp building material. [01:27:37] I think it meant scrap. [01:27:38] Yes. [01:27:39] Okay, that's corrected. [01:27:40] And then there's another one down, [01:27:41] I think in the B, further down. [01:27:44] No, I'm sorry. [01:27:45] In C, it says including painting of vehicles. [01:27:48] I'm sure you meant painting. [01:27:51] And there was one other one that was similar to that, and I have it. [01:27:54] I'm sorry I wrote it on my other papers at home. [01:27:57] If I come across it, I'll send it. [01:27:58] Okay. [01:27:59] All right. [01:28:00] Thank you. [01:28:01] Mr. Starkey? [01:28:02] No comment. [01:28:03] I have none either. [01:28:04] There's no further discussion. [01:28:05] All those in favor, please signify by saying aye. [01:28:07] Aye. [01:28:08] Opposed? [01:28:09] The light's on. [01:28:10] Next item is business item license agreement for a dock [01:28:13] on city property at 6722 Grand. [01:28:23] Hello. [01:28:26] You've seen these before. [01:28:27] This is one of those situations where someone owns property [01:28:30] on the east side of Grand Boulevard, [01:28:32] and they want to construct a dock on the west side of Grand [01:28:36] along the river. [01:28:37] In this case, the property owner is at 6722 Grand. [01:28:40] It's at the southeast corner of Ohio Avenue and Grand Boulevard. [01:28:44] The city code does permit that those property owners at front on Grand [01:28:48] that are between Massachusetts and Virginia would have the right [01:28:51] to construct a dock. [01:28:53] The applicant did provide the required license agreement, [01:28:56] which is in your packet, and the DRC recommended approval. [01:28:59] Open this up for public comment. [01:29:02] I think no one will come forward and bring back counsel. [01:29:05] Move for approval. [01:29:06] Move for approval. [01:29:07] Second. [01:29:08] To the maker? [01:29:09] Second. [01:29:10] Nothing. [01:29:11] Councilman Starkey? [01:29:12] No comments, thank you. [01:29:13] Deputy Mayor? [01:29:14] Aye. [01:29:15] Me too. [01:29:16] There's no further discussion. [01:29:17] All those in favor, please signify by saying aye. [01:29:18] Aye. [01:29:19] Opposed? [01:29:20] The light's on. [01:29:21] Next is a board appointment for Kelly Smallwood [01:29:23] to the Cultural Affairs Committee. [01:29:25] Mr. Mayor, members of the council, Mrs. Kelly Smallwood [01:29:28] has indicated her interest in serving [01:29:30] on the Cultural Affairs Committee. [01:29:32] And based on a recommendation from the staff, [01:29:35] we are asking that you appoint Mrs. Smallwood [01:29:38] to serve on the Cultural Affairs Committee as a full member. [01:29:42] Her appointment will be for a two-year period of time [01:29:45] and will expire on June 7th of 2018 [01:29:48] if this item meets with your approval. [01:29:51] Thank you. [01:29:52] Open it up for public comment. [01:29:53] I do not see Mrs. Smallwood in the audience. [01:29:56] Move for approval. [01:29:58] Second. [01:29:59] To the maker? [01:30:00] No. [01:30:00] I think so, thank you, yeah, thank you Ms. Smallwood for applying and all the best. [01:30:06] She's at home watching. [01:30:08] Councilman Starkey? [01:30:10] Thank you Ms. Smallwood, once again. [01:30:12] I'm all for appointing her an absentia. [01:30:17] If there's no further discussion, all those in favor, please signify by saying aye. [01:30:21] Aye. [01:30:22] Opposed, like sign. [01:30:23] Isn't that what happens when you're not present? [01:30:26] If you don't show up, you get elected, that's correct. [01:30:29] Speaking of which, we have also the board appointment of Katrina Hopkins, who I also believe is not here tonight. [01:30:36] Ms. Manns? [01:30:37] Ms. Katrina Hopkins is being recommended for a seat on the library advisory board as a full member. [01:30:43] The term would be for a three year period of time if it meets with your approval, and the term will expire on June 7th, 2019. [01:30:52] We are recommending that you consider approval of the appointment. [01:30:55] Thank you. [01:30:56] Opened up for public comment. [01:30:58] Seeing no one, come forward and bring it back to council. [01:31:00] Second. [01:31:01] To the maker. [01:31:02] Thank you. [01:31:03] To the second. [01:31:04] All aboard. [01:31:05] Councilwoman? [01:31:06] Yes, thank you and welcome aboard. [01:31:09] If there's no further discussion, all those in favor, please signify by saying aye. [01:31:13] Aye. [01:31:14] Opposed, like sign. [01:31:15] Motion passes. [01:31:16] Next is consideration of a bid award 2014-2015 marine parkway multi-use path project. [01:31:22] Mr. Mayor, members of the council, we're very pleased to be able to make a recommendation to you for a contract award on the marine parkway multi-use project, [01:31:31] and Robert has prepared a short presentation for you on this agenda item. [01:31:35] There were five competitive bids that were submitted for this project. [01:31:41] They range from a low bid of $615,443.05, which was submitted by Augustine Construction, to a high of $897,257.00.

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12. 9.a

    First Reading: Ordinance 2016-2084 Amending Chapter 15.00.00, General Storage, Unsanitary Conditions and General Public Nuisance

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    Although the agenda item is listed as Ordinance 2016-2084 (storage/nuisance), the transcript provided actually covers a bid award to Augustine Construction for a streetscape project (with decorative lighting, landscaping, irrigation, bus stop pads and benches) in an amount not to exceed $615,443.05, funded by local option gas tax. Council approved the bid by voice vote.

    Ord. Ordinance 2016-2084

    • motion:Approve the Augustine Construction bid in an amount not to exceed $615,443.05 funded by local option gas tax. (passed)

    🏢American Traffic Solutions🏢Augustine Construction🏢Duke Energy🏢Pasco County👤David Mast👤Mr. House👤Ms. Manns#Intersection Safety Program / red light camera program#Local option gas tax#Ordinance 2016-2084#Starkey (project extension)

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    [01:31:57] The principal architect has verified the bid documents and the company references. [01:32:03] Augustine Construction has worked with the city on a couple other projects and completed those under budget and ahead of time. [01:32:10] Fundings identified as local option, gas tax dollars, and the approval of the bid and the project award would be recommended by staff for you to consider for approval of the Augustine Construction bid in the amount not to exceed the $615,443.05. [01:32:31] Thank you. I'll open it up for public comment. I think no one will come forward to bring it back to council. [01:32:36] Move for approval. [01:32:38] Thank you. Mr. Mayor? [01:32:40] No, my understanding when we do this, it will dovetail into the other ones and eventually get us all the way out to Starkey? [01:32:47] Yes, sir. [01:32:48] And obviously we have a favorable experience with Augustine in the past from what I can tell from the notes and some of the other projects we've done? [01:32:58] Correct. [01:32:59] What's the tentative timeline on this? I know Mr. House will come see us in the fall, you know, once it gets a little cooler. [01:33:08] Sure. We figure we'll be at probably about 50% by August and we should finish up at least by before the year's up. [01:33:16] And that will dovetail in and around the expanded retention pond that we just finished by taking out the house and doing it? [01:33:25] Correct. [01:33:27] We'll be able to expand those limits and enhance that area with some landscaping. [01:33:32] Okay. Very good. Thank you. [01:33:34] Second. [01:33:35] Councilwoman? [01:33:37] Yes, just a question. So the decorative street lighting, the landscaping, the irrigation, installation, bus stop, pads and benches. [01:33:43] Will there be any other input from us or is there... it's done? [01:33:49] That's done. [01:33:50] What I mean to say is so the street lighting will be the... whose choice? [01:33:56] The street lighting will be the same as what we have downtown. It'll be that decorative lighting, that LEDs that we'll be running from Duke Energy. [01:34:05] Okay, because I thought we had had some conversation about the bus stop, pads and benches. I didn't see it come back to us. [01:34:11] There was some preliminary discussion on the bus pads. The lighting and the benches and stuff like that, we tried to tie into what we currently have now. [01:34:22] And so what was proposed, I believe, is the same thing that Pasco County uses, except for we're going to spec ours out as the... instead of the green color, the black to tie in with the existing system. [01:34:39] Council Instructor? [01:34:42] I'm good. There's no further discussion. All those in favor, please signify by saying aye. Aye. Opposed, lights on. Motion passes. [01:34:51] Next is discussion on the red light camera program. Ms. Manns? [01:34:54] Mr. Mayor, members of the Council, the request before you this evening is to authorize the City Manager to enter into a one-year contract with American Traffic Solutions related to the Intersection Safety Program, i.e. the red light camera program. [01:35:11] We have Mr. David Mast here in attendance this evening who serves as the Senior Account Manager on behalf of ATS, American Traffic Solutions, again, who is the City's current provider for the red light camera system.

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13. 10.a

    License Agreement for Dock on City Property: 6722 Grand Boulevard

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    Transcript content appears mismatched with the agenda item title — the transcript discusses renewal of a traffic enforcement camera contract rather than a dock license agreement at 6722 Grand Boulevard. Staff noted the vendor reduced per-camera pricing by $618, bringing the renewal fee to $4,250, and Chief Bogart was to present an analysis supporting continued use.

    📍6722 Grand Boulevard👤Bogart#Red light / speed camera program#Traffic Enforcement Technology Services contract renewal

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    [01:35:26] Our contract is due to elapse with them on June 20, 2016. In that respect, they have made a proposal to the City to continue our relationship with them. [01:35:40] They have reduced their per camera price by $618 over the current price, which means that the renewal fee is $4,250. [01:35:55] From staff's perspective, there were four factors that needed to be taken into consideration in regard to this very important agenda item. [01:36:06] The first was whether or not Traffic Enforcement Technology Service, an effective tool in ensuring compliance with speed limits and other traffic laws. [01:36:19] In that regard, an analysis was prepared by Chief Bogart, which supports the continued use of cameras at certain intersections, and I'll allow Chief Bogart to present that to you at the conclusion of my comments.

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14. 10.b

    Board Appointment: Kelly Smallwood, Cultural Affairs Committee

    Agenda item was a board appointment of Kelly Smallwood to the Cultural Affairs Committee, but the provided transcript excerpt does not cover that topic and instead discusses legal challenges related to an intersection safety (red light camera) program citing the Hollywood v. Aram case.

    👤Kelly Smallwood👤Poblick#4th District Court#Cultural Affairs Committee#Hollywood v. Aram#intersection safety program

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    [01:36:35] The second factor is related to the status of recent legal challenges. Specifically, the lawsuits are based, pardon me, in the 4th District Court based on the Hollywood v. Aram case. [01:36:52] All of which, according to the Aram ruling, cite that local units of government utilizing the intersection safety program have farmed out governmental responsibilities. [01:37:12] From our legal perspective, we believe that the administrative procedure used is a good protection against the lawsuits, and I'll allow Mr. Poblick to respond to what specific questions you may have in respect to the status of the ongoing legal challenges.

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15. 10.c

    Board Appointment: Catrina Hopkins, Library Advisory Board

    Transcript provided does not match the agenda item title (Board Appointment: Catrina Hopkins, Library Advisory Board); instead it contains discussion of a program's operating expenses, revenue, and public perception, including a year-end projection of $700,000.

    👤Crystal Feast#Fiscal Year 2016 program revenue report

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    [01:37:40] The third factor is operating expenses versus revenue, and I have attached to my June 7th communication to you a report from Crystal Feast which outlines the finances and the revenue associated with the program. [01:38:07] The result of which demonstrates a net to the program for the fiscal year 2016. We believe, based on our current numbers, that the year-end total will be $700,000. [01:38:23] The final variable that I think needs to be considered is public perception. To be quite frank with you, the public perception of the program is poor. In large part, I think that's due to the fact that violators of the system receive tickets, and tickets result in fines.

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16. 10.d

    Consideration of Bid Award: 2014/2015 Marine Pkwy Multi-Use Path Project

    discussed

    Although the agenda item was titled as a bid award for the Marine Pkwy Multi-Use Path Project, the transcript provided is actually a discussion of the red-light camera program. Staff recommended deactivating four cameras at intersections with improved traffic conditions and maintaining four cameras at other locations, continuing the program for only a one-year period pending resolution of legal challenges.

    • direction:Staff recommendation to deactivate four red-light cameras, maintain four others, and continue the program for a one-year period. (none)

    📍Northbound U.S. 19 at Florimar (Floramar)📍Northbound U.S. 19 at Trouble Creek📍Northbound U.S. Highway 19 and Cross Bayou Boulevard📍Southbound U.S. Highway 19 and Cross Bayou Boulevard📍Southbound U.S. Highway 19 and Main Street📍Southbound U.S. Highway 19 and Marine Parkway📍U.S. 19 at Gulf Drive (northbound and southbound)📍Westbound Main Street and U.S. 19🏢American Traffic Solutions👤Joe👤Mann#2014/2015 Marine Pkwy Multi-Use Path Project#Red-light camera program

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    [01:38:51] I additionally believe that it's difficult to demonstrate to the public the effectiveness of the camera systems in reducing speeds, cutting road traumas, and changing driver behavior. [01:39:08] In that regard, if the City Council determines that it's appropriate to continue the program, I believe that we need to launch a public information campaign about the use of cameras, the location of cameras, the safety outcomes associated with the use, and examples of how program revenue is used. [01:39:33] With those comments, the recommendation of staff is to deactivate four cameras. The four cameras that we're recommending discontinuation of are as follows. [01:39:51] Southbound U.S. Highway 19 and Marine Parkway. Northbound U.S. Highway 19 and Cross Bio Boulevard. Southbound U.S. Highway 19 and Main Street. Southbound U.S. Highway 19 and Cross Bio Boulevard. The basis of the recommendation is that there has been an improvement in traffic conditions at those four intersections. [01:40:15] The last part of the recommendation is to maintain cameras at the following four locations, three of which are on northbound 19. One is at Trouble Creek, one is at Florimar, the third is at Gulf Drive, and the final camera is at westbound Main Street and U.S. 19. [01:40:37] The other point that I should make, or maybe I'll let Joe make it as a matter of fact, is that our recommendation for the continuation of the program is only for a one-year period of time. [01:40:52] In large part, that is due to the fact that some of the certainty related to the legal challenges will be a lot closer to closure than they currently are. Chief, it looks like you're trying to correct me on something. Did I overspeak? [01:41:09] On the recommended cameras to remain, it is northbound and southbound at Gulf Drive, and that was my mistake in relaying the way I relayed the information to you. It's one of the few intersections with cameras in both directions. [01:41:25] Okay, thank you. [01:41:29] Chief, can you go ahead and talk about the report that you prepared for Council? [01:41:35] If I have to, I will. [01:41:37] I think you have to. [01:41:39] Well, this has been a challenge looking at the overall performance of the camera systems, and as the police chief, I'm trying to, through this whole process, my mindset has been to be objective about it. [01:41:55] I can tell you from experience in being a cop, like, I don't know, somewhere bordering around 40 years, I've never had a citizen thank me for giving them a ticket. Never. [01:42:06] But I have had, unless it was one where I gave them a lesser ticket when they committed three or four violations and I ended up bumping it down. [01:42:16] So, as Ms. Mann said, the reality is folks don't like to be caught doing a violation, and this system does affect that. [01:42:28] But again, looking at it objectively, I looked at, and this is some data that was retrieved from American Traffic Solutions, that is the recidivism rate. [01:42:43] When we first started the program and I spoke to you, the program was in place before I got here, but there was a period of time several years ago where we were talking about the status of the program, the construction on 19,

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17. 10.e

    Discussion: Red-Light Camera Program

    discussed

    Police Chief Williams presented data on the city's red-light camera program, reporting recidivism dropped to 10% over five years and crashes on US-19 declined proportionally from 53% (2010) to 30% (2015). He recommended keeping five camera systems in place for another year. Council discussed concerns about a pending lawsuit (potential $7M liability), revenue figures, and ATS billing during construction. Mayor Rowe motioned to approve staff's recommendation; Deputy Mayor expressed reservations about the program's impact on attracting residents.

    • motion:Motion to approve staff recommendation to keep five red-light cameras in place and renew the contract with ATS for one year. (none)

    📍2425 John Lane, West Paducah, Kentucky📍Gulf Drive📍Main Street Light (US Highway 19)📍US-19🏢ATS (American Traffic Solutions)🏢Florida Department of Transportation🏢Pasco County👤Chief Williams👤Councilman Starkey👤Crystal👤David Mass👤Mr. Davis👤Mr. Phillips👤Mr. Publick👤Ms. Manns#Aram lawsuit#Court of Appeals hearing#Red-Light Camera Program#recidivism rate analysis

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    [01:42:55] and I mentioned to you the recidivism rate. At that time, and by that, by recidivism rate, I mean when an individual gets a second ticket. [01:43:06] You know, did they learn their lesson the first time? And at that time, we only had a little more than a year or two of data to look at, and it was also very intermittent data. [01:43:21] At that time, it was 2%. 2% of the people who had received a ticket received a second one. Five years later, with all the construction done, only 10% of the folks that had received a ticket received a second one. [01:43:37] That's over a five-year period. Normally, you look at recidivism rates as a one-year time frame. We're talking about over an entire five years, and with multiple cameras out there. [01:43:48] So that's one of the factors I'm asking you to think about. [01:43:52] The tables, I have prepared several tables to try to put this in perspective. Let me get to my third page here. [01:44:08] And that was, the whole purpose of this enforcement program is to reduce the number of crashes. And you may not personally have been affected by a traffic crash in your life, but most of us have been, or we have family members who have been. [01:44:30] As the Chief, I am very concerned over the number of crashes that we have citywide. US-19 is a dangerous highway. There's clearly no question about that. [01:44:41] In order to make a valid comparison and see whether or not the cameras were affected, I went all the way back to 2010 and personally looked at every single crash report that we had for 2010 related to US-19. [01:45:00] U.S. 19. This meant the roads that intersected with 19 and the crashes that occurred on 19. [01:45:06] I looked at those, saw the reasons for the crash, and the results of it. [01:45:12] And I would discount some that were so far out of there, an intersecting street like Gulf Drive. [01:45:17] I went as far as almost 1,000 feet in some cases from U.S. 19 because I thought it might be [01:45:24] where those roads were intersecting because I felt like it might have some relationship to the traffic light. [01:45:30] So I compared those figures with all of 2015 and the first four months of 2016. [01:45:38] The reason for 15, the whole year of 15, was because the construction was finally done. [01:45:46] And we could look at, I feel like, relatively true numbers. [01:45:51] And I think ATS had their equipment finally back in the ground. [01:45:55] I think if you'll recall a couple years ago we talked about that. [01:45:59] They were having a lot of challenges with the construction company allowing them to put their equipment back in the ground. [01:46:05] Through 2015, that period of time, their stuff was up and running. [01:46:10] Except for one camera that you'll see on the table that you've been provided in the charts. [01:46:17] You'll see that the one that I think was crossed by you was taken out with a crash. [01:46:22] And so through conversations with ATS, we elected at that point in time, because we didn't know what you might do, [01:46:32] to say, don't bother fixing it, let's just see where everything slips out. [01:46:36] So if you look at that table, and I think I labeled it Table 2, [01:46:43] the number of crashes, there were 521 crashes occurred in the city, the entire city, in 2010. [01:46:52] 51% of those crashes, I'm sorry, 53% of those crashes, which is 275, took place along US-19 and on intersecting streets. [01:47:05] In 2015, the total number of crashes in the city was 508, which is very close to the 521 total crashes that we had in 2010. [01:47:15] But the proportion of crashes on 19 was significantly down. [01:47:21] It was 30% down in 2015. [01:47:35] 30% of the crashes occurred on US-19 in 2015, as opposed to the, earlier I said it was 53% in 2010. [01:47:46] And then in 2016, that percentage is 36% of the crashes. [01:47:51] So the number of crashes that occur in our city, proportionately, are way down, significantly down on 19. [01:48:02] That's a factor to consider. [01:48:04] The highest number of notice of violations that are issued, the greatest volume of those are still occurring at some of our intersections. [01:48:29] When you take, we have one intersection, well several, that are over 400 violations occur there a month. [01:48:38] That's over 3,000 violations that occur a year. [01:48:45] And to just ignore that, and just look the other way, troubles me a lot. [01:48:52] Because not every one of those violations that occur could result, or does result in a crash, obviously. [01:48:59] But the likelihood, the whole thing with our enforcement efforts as police officers, when we do traffic enforcement, is to change driver behavior. [01:49:08] I think driver behavior is changing, but in some areas out there, it absolutely has not. [01:49:15] There are still a high number of violations. [01:49:18] I can't place an officer out there to sit at those intersections to look for those violations, to ticket them. [01:49:25] So in that respect, I think that I've identified the cameras that are, where driver's behavior has changed. [01:49:32] And I do need to mention this. [01:49:33] I think some of the things that the Florida Department of Transportation has done over the course of the time that our cameras were in place have had a positive effect as well. [01:49:45] There's one intersection that produces less, and it's hard to even imagine this, less than one notice of violation a day in a 24-hour period. [01:49:55] One of the cameras that's up right now. [01:49:57] We pay our monthly fee on that camera, but it's less than one ticket a day compared to other intersections where they're doing over $400 a month. [01:50:07] So something happened with the timing of the lights that we kind of have determined ourselves in the office rather than with ATS. [01:50:18] We think it's because traffic doesn't have an opportunity to get back up to speed to where they're going to blow through that light. [01:50:25] And so that one is truly ineffective. [01:50:28] And of course we have the one that's been out for a while. [01:50:31] It's not producing anything and was a very low producer, meaning people that were reacting to it. [01:50:38] And then finally there were some others that their trending has been going down. [01:50:45] But the remaining ones, the five lights, five camera systems that my recommendation to you is to consider keeping those in place for the year. [01:50:56] That was my recommendation to Ms. Manns. [01:50:59] Thank you. [01:51:01] With that I'll open it up for public comment. [01:51:05] Seeing no one come forward, bring it back to council. [01:51:11] I'd like to move to approve based on the recommendation to keep them in place and renew the contract. [01:51:21] When this first question first came up a few years back when we were looking at it, I took it really seriously because it was incredibly controversial. [01:51:34] And I read the history of how the particular thing started. [01:51:38] I forget the town that it was in. [01:51:40] A woman sent her husband and child off to the grocery store and they didn't come back because someone ran a red light and killed her husband and child. [01:51:49] And that was very impactful certainly. [01:51:51] And so she kind of brought the whole thing forward. [01:51:56] And I contacted some of the cities who early on were doing this to find out from them, did it create the intended result which was changing behaviors. [01:52:08] I think that there is sometimes, you know, as a driver you just get complacent. [01:52:15] There are times when you can, you know, I find myself coming home and pulling into the driveway not even remembering how I got there. [01:52:21] So, you know, there's a lot of distractions and there's a lot of rushing, a lot of time constraints that people are in. [01:52:30] And I believe that having these in place has definitely, especially looking at the figures that you provided for us, it definitely has changed people's patterns. [01:52:44] This is a completely avoidable issue if, you know, you don't have to get the ticket if you're minding the traffic signals. [01:52:54] I myself got a ticket and, you know, my thinking had to be reprogrammed and it was heading west on US Highway 19 coming up to Main Street Light. [01:53:07] And it was just a kind of a slide around that curve because the traffic was stopped at that point. [01:53:13] And the thought didn't occur to me that, you know, you had to make a dead stop at that point. [01:53:18] But I can tell you that it really, you know, getting that ticket really impacted my own behavior and I'm really conscious of that. [01:53:29] I can say I don't travel a lot on US Highway 19, but I do recall that there was a time where I would see people blowing through those lights on a more regular basis. [01:53:38] And the fact that those statistics are unbelievable how they have diminished. [01:53:42] Except for that one, the one where it's 835 in the month of June on that one intersection, that's mind-blowing to think, you know, why exactly that. [01:53:52] But I think it is definitely modifying behavior and I think it's giving people pause, especially the fact that the recidivism rate is negligible. [01:54:03] So I think that in my own instance, second year in, you know, I am well aware of lights turning amber. [01:54:12] I think that I wouldn't want to add any more. [01:54:15] I agree with the diminishing it. [01:54:18] And so long as we maintain that length of time, the yellow light consistent with the missing. [01:54:24] I take that to be a motion to approve the recommendation of staff. [01:54:30] Do we have a second? [01:54:33] I'd like to hear from Mr. Publick regarding the lawsuit, because just so we're clear, if this goes south, the lawsuit, we're on the hook as a city for what, $7 million? [01:54:45] Potentially. [01:54:47] Too early to tell what the real exposure could be, but worst case scenario would be fourth words of $7 million. [01:54:55] And what makes me nervous is every ticket given out over the next 12 months would be added on to that, correct? [01:55:00] That is correct. [01:55:02] So I'm not asking you to predict the case, but what are your thoughts on it? [01:55:06] We've got a hearing, I believe, later this month on a key issue. [01:55:12] I am cautiously optimistic the court will vote in government's favor. [01:55:19] If that's the case, it will potentially put an end to this lawsuit as far as the government. [01:55:26] What date is that? [01:55:29] I don't remember the exact date, but it's later on this month. [01:55:33] We have a hearing before the court of appeals. [01:55:36] And there's no way we can wait on this vote with ATS until after that hearing? [01:55:44] If you're going to speak, you have to move the microphone. [01:55:47] David Mass, 2425 John Lane, West Paducah, Kentucky. [01:55:57] I'm happy to be here today. [01:55:59] I know some of you, this is the first time that you've seen me, but I've actually been here a number of times. [01:56:05] Actually, Councilman Starkey, we made a change about 35 days ago that completely alleviates the concern [01:56:16] that you have. [01:56:18] We now send all violations to the city of New Port Richey. [01:56:24] And New Port Richey has the ability to view every violation that is captured. [01:56:30] And so that issue, that Aram issue, is no longer an issue here for your city. [01:56:39] We moved many of our Florida clients to that in addressing that concern in Aram, [01:56:45] even ahead of the judicial opinions that we're waiting on. [01:56:49] So that liability actually has not existed for, when did we do that? [01:56:55] About 45 days ago. [01:56:57] Oh, yes. [01:56:58] I came down and re-suggested it. [01:57:00] If it's over the next 12 months, you don't think we'd be liable for that? [01:57:03] No. You're seeing everything now. [01:57:05] Everything that's captured, you now get. [01:57:15] Thank you. [01:57:16] Thank you. [01:57:25] Went from a net of a couple thousand dollars to a net of $30,000, $40,000. [01:57:36] While he's doing that, could we get a second for the purposes of discussion [01:57:40] to keep this in line with Robert's rules? [01:57:43] I'll give a second for discussion purposes only. [01:57:46] Okay? [01:57:47] Because I don't want it to be construed that we weren't in Robert's rules [01:57:51] and all that other stuff. [01:57:53] If this has to go back through a setting where they decide how you do the processing. [01:57:59] Yeah, this is on the figures that Crystal gave us. [01:58:02] Right. [01:58:03] Starting in July, I think it's July of 2015, [01:58:08] the net numbers went from in the hole $241, $546, [01:58:17] and all of a sudden it's $31,000, $44,000, $83,000, $80,000, $70,000, $69,000. [01:58:26] I mean, what happened in July of 2015? [01:58:37] The construction was completed on 19 and the sites went back live. [01:58:42] So those sites that were your greatest producers of NOVs came back online. [01:58:50] So it was just a natural function that took place. [01:58:55] Now we did obviously put new sensors in and so on and so forth, [01:59:00] but it was just that the construction project was done. [01:59:06] Chuck Chopper, if you don't mind, I could add to that. [01:59:09] There were turn lanes that the construction company, [01:59:16] some of the last things that they worked on, [01:59:19] and they had ripped out these sensors [01:59:21] and they just were not allowing ATS to put those back in the ground. [01:59:25] And for some intersections, [01:59:27] they may have had one lane that had a sensor in it and the other three were out. [01:59:31] I have another question then. [01:59:34] In the contract that you're proposing, if we have one down, [01:59:38] I don't see any reason that we should be paying for it [01:59:41] because we paid for this all through this construction period [01:59:44] and I don't want to pay for anything that's damaged, destroyed, [01:59:49] taken out because it's not even our street. [01:59:53] We did not invoice for cameras that were down during the construction period. [01:59:58] The numbers look pretty much the same here. [02:00:00] ATS, you know, or ATS cash collections, they're running pretty much the same, [02:00:05] where you, um, I'm just saying that they're running pretty much the same [02:00:12] through that, where we, um, I think Mr. Phillips would like to make a point. [02:00:17] That's cash collections over payments to ATS. We pay you a fee. So those figures aren't here. [02:00:24] Well, no, the cash collections, because you provide the revenue back from the tickets. [02:00:31] That's correct. [02:00:32] There's two different things. One's the revenue back from the ticket, gross, before the split out, [02:00:39] and then there's our monthly fees that we were paying to ATS for each one of the camera locations. [02:00:45] Those fees aren't here, what we paid. [02:00:47] So the invoice amount is not on a column that apparently you're looking at. [02:00:51] It was supplied to the city, and I'm happy to present it to you tonight. [02:00:56] I can bring it up on a computer, but I've been your account manager since May of 15, [02:01:02] and I can assure you that it's been accurate from that point going forward. [02:01:06] What happened along the way? [02:01:08] Okay, but that's the state of Florida fees for the ATS. [02:01:11] I guess it's the next one. [02:01:13] The ATS fees run pretty much the same through all this. [02:01:19] If I may, since I prepared the report, I can briefly explain what the rows represent. [02:01:28] Under revenues, ATS cash collection, that is collections that is done by ATS. [02:01:34] They send out the citations, and people will then mail payments in directly to them, [02:01:40] or they take credit card payments over the phone, and that money is then remitted to the city. [02:01:46] The next row are court collections, which is done by Pasco County. [02:01:52] So those are remitted by the county to us. [02:01:55] And then the third revenue source is from the police department, so collections that are received by them. [02:02:03] Expenses, state of Florida fees, those are payments, [02:02:07] are a portion of the payment that we are required to remit to the state. [02:02:11] ATS fees, that's our payment to ATS. [02:02:15] Hey, right there. Stop right there. That's what I'm asking. [02:02:17] I don't see any deduction or any change in those fees along there that they [02:02:22] we paid the full amount during the construction as far as I can see. [02:02:30] I'm reading that the same way you are, Mr. Davis. [02:02:35] I would. [02:02:37] There were some adjustments made during that period of time. [02:02:39] It doesn't show it here. [02:02:41] We froze payments. [02:02:43] The city quick-paid ATS and then met with them, and there were adjustments made by ATS. [02:02:50] It doesn't show it here. [02:02:52] And I can pull the invoices. [02:02:54] I know that we pay a flat fee or a fixed fee for each camera that was in place for that month. [02:03:00] I mean, the little variations, what I can see would be the amount of days in that month. [02:03:06] I mean, that's a small amount. [02:03:08] It's not a major amount when you're looking at it. [02:03:12] And I'll pull those in. [02:03:14] I can provide this. [02:03:15] Well, I mean, you did it already. It's here. [02:03:17] I take your word for it. [02:03:19] Right, but just to have sure evidence of it, because this was from our general ledger, our software. [02:03:25] But if you want to, we can look at the true invoicing. [02:03:29] Let me say this. [02:03:31] We will certainly work with you all to research this. [02:03:34] And if there has been an error made, we will immediately approach the city [02:03:38] and let them know what our observation is with Crystal. [02:03:43] So that is not an issue. [02:03:45] If we overbuild an error, we will certainly make it right. [02:03:48] Does the Florida Department of Transportation is controlling this, not us? [02:03:54] That would not affect our invoice to you. [02:03:58] I have one other question. [02:04:01] You said in the past 45 days, don't we have two part-time officers that review these citations [02:04:09] or work with the public or something? [02:04:13] We have. [02:04:15] Well, right now we have a vacancy, but we have had. [02:04:18] For a year. [02:04:19] We have had. [02:04:20] It was officers when I first got here. [02:04:22] It was detectives and police officers. [02:04:26] Then the system evolved where we have two part-time civilian employees [02:04:30] that are specially trained that review the notices of violation. [02:04:36] Then I will still go back to that accounting, and it says payroll and other, [02:04:43] and there are no numbers in there. [02:04:48] Yes, there is. [02:04:49] Payroll and other operating expenses. [02:04:51] Those are the monthly. [02:04:53] That's payroll and other. [02:04:55] There's no numbers in there, no numbers at all. [02:04:58] It's a wrap. [02:04:59] It's wrapped down. [02:05:00] If you see it pushed down the row. [02:05:02] Other operating expenses. [02:05:03] Oh, okay. [02:05:04] It all is together. [02:05:05] I believe Crystal, when she did the calculations with that, [02:05:09] included the cost of the part-time. [02:05:12] Other payroll expenses. [02:05:14] Right. [02:05:15] That's right. [02:05:16] Facilitating the program. [02:05:18] We have two part-time officers that work roughly 20 hours a week. [02:05:21] Oh, my gosh, no. [02:05:23] We fight to keep their hours down. [02:05:27] They have daytime and nighttime hearings. [02:05:30] Sometimes they have to go in front of the county, and they're both pushing. [02:05:36] Okay. [02:05:38] I'm sorry. [02:05:39] I saw payroll and other, and then I saw operating expenses. [02:05:42] Those are two different lines. [02:05:43] My mistake. [02:05:47] Anything else? [02:05:48] If not, I'll let Deputy Mayor. [02:05:54] I've been the most vocal one about this for a number of years, [02:05:57] and especially during the construction process. [02:06:00] And from a number of different platforms, [02:06:06] and I won't go back over them again because everybody's heard them. [02:06:14] And, obviously, years ago we were looking at what we had to pay the state [02:06:22] and what we were paying for the service that we had contracted for, [02:06:28] and then the execution of that with staffing. [02:06:33] And, obviously, during a couple-year time period, [02:06:36] if you looked at it from a budgeting perspective, [02:06:40] your revenue on those lines was sometimes less than $100,000. [02:06:47] Obviously, with the tweaks that the state has made and FDOT, [02:06:54] and now with everything back up and operational, [02:06:57] obviously the dollars are approaching where they were projected at some point [02:07:02] back when the program was first put into place. [02:07:08] I just have a personal problem trying to recruit people to come to New Port Richey [02:07:13] when we have these as a source of revenue. [02:07:17] I recognize that some of the accidents are down, [02:07:21] some of the habits of driving. [02:07:25] Obviously, most times I don't drive through these intersections myself, [02:07:29] and I know projections were made years ago. [02:07:33] What does give me great pause is where this lawsuit's going to go, [02:07:37] because, obviously, if it comes back in [02:07:39] and it's not to the small city government's advantage, [02:07:45] there's a liability out there that's going to be interesting to try to fund. [02:07:53] I recognize the one year to see exactly where we are [02:07:56] and how you displace and look at things, [02:08:02] and that most of these, if we do approve this, [02:08:08] one of the other things that needs to be in that customer service element [02:08:13] that you're talking about is some kind of heightened presence [02:08:20] from 12 noon to 3 p.m., [02:08:23] because if you put it in writing as to when you've got the biggest impact, [02:08:29] if you don't take other appropriate steps, [02:08:32] that leaves, in my mind, you open for how you operated those time periods [02:08:39] because of revenue elements. [02:08:43] I just, like I said, the price, the pricing, [02:08:47] I just, like I said, I've just had a really tough swallowing pattern [02:08:55] with this particular element. [02:08:58] Then on top of that, I always find it hypocritical and condescending [02:09:07] when my local politicians, whether Republican, Democrat, Independent, [02:09:12] Blue, Red, White, Green, [02:09:16] talks about when they're out on the stump about this, [02:09:19] when they get $85 as a 158 ticket immediately, [02:09:24] that's where you see the line back to the government. [02:09:27] They're going to take a huge hit. [02:09:29] Then they've kicked this thing around, [02:09:31] and I believe that they've been talking about doing some evolution of this [02:09:35] out to 2019, I believe, has been some of the, [02:09:39] whether it's between the Senate or the House. [02:09:44] There's going to be a point in time where this whole program [02:09:49] is going to be turned up again. [02:09:53] The one year I understand the revenue points, [02:09:57] I just believe that it's a program that really doesn't help a small city [02:10:03] like New Port Richey Market itself when we want you to come live with us, [02:10:06] live in our city. [02:10:08] On the flip side, because of a mistake in an intersection, [02:10:12] we're giving them a $158 ticket. [02:10:15] The recidivism rate, I'm glad people are learning, [02:10:19] because I can tell you the first night I sat on council,

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18. 10.f

    Property Purchase Agreement Authorization: Extension of James E. Grey Preserve (Florida Wildlife Federation)

    discussed

    Council discussed continuation of the red light camera program (ATS contract), with members expressing concerns about revenue dependency and the vendor's accounting practices over the past five years. One member indicated willingness to support a one-year extension with reduced cameras while another criticized the city's marketing program. Note: transcript content appears to be from a different agenda item (red light cameras/ATS) rather than the James E. Grey Preserve property purchase listed in the agenda heading.

    • direction:Speaker indicated intent to vote in favor of a one-year extension of the red light camera program with a reduction in cameras, to be reassessed next year. (none)

    🏢ATS👤Deval Thomas👤Mr. Manns#City marketing program#Red light camera program

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    [02:10:22] well before Mr. Manns was here, [02:10:24] Mayor and Mr. Deval Thomas was here, [02:10:27] we had a presentation made by our then auditing firm, [02:10:32] and they basically told us where the revenue was going to track to [02:10:36] in 2018 or 19, [02:10:39] and it showed that our people weren't very smart [02:10:42] because it was going up every year. [02:10:45] The other thing that concerns me with this is [02:10:48] ATS's accounting process over the last five years. [02:10:54] They send back the money they receive. [02:10:57] Now we're finally being provided with all of the infractions [02:11:00] so we can actually see where they're at. [02:11:03] We were relying on them to give us money back to make these payments. [02:11:08] At the end of the day, I just am not comfortable, [02:11:14] and this is me because I've been consistent with this for the last four years, [02:11:17] it's not a program that I find that I can vote on [02:11:23] for the city of New Port Richey. [02:11:25] I recognize the impact it's going to have, [02:11:28] but again, because of the way the program's evolved over the five years, [02:11:35] some things were controllable, other things weren't. [02:11:38] To me, it's just something that I can't vote for. [02:11:42] I think I'm going to be okay with this for one more year [02:11:45] with the reduction of cameras, but unfortunately, I think as a city, [02:11:49] we've become too dependent on this revenue. [02:11:53] This isn't something that we need to be dependent on for years to come. [02:11:57] I'm okay with the one-year extension with the reduction of cameras [02:12:00] and reassess the next year, [02:12:02] but we need to get used to not having this income coming in [02:12:06] and not be dependent on it and work our budgeting process around it. [02:12:10] I will vote in favor for one more year with the reduction in cameras [02:12:13] and reassess it next year. [02:12:15] That's where I'm at. [02:12:24] In this presentation, there was this discussion of marketing, [02:12:28] and this city has a terrible marketing program. [02:12:33] If we'd even have a marketing program, [02:12:35] it's demonstrated in a lot of different departments. [02:12:39] All of a sudden, this thing is going to be the eye-opening for marketing. [02:12:43] I just can't see it happening overnight, this marketing business. [02:12:49] I have a tough time.

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19. 10.g

    Discussion: City Manager Annual Compensation Adjustment

    discussed

    Council began discussion of the City Manager's annual compensation adjustment. The Mayor noted the contract runs on an annual basis starting June 1st and proposed at least a 2% raise, suggested as a flat $2,400 increase. Discussion included whether to align the contract review with the fiscal year budget cycle. No decision was reached in the transcript provided.

    • motion:Proposal to give the City Manager a flat $2,400 annual compensation increase (slightly over 2%). (none)

    👤Crystal#City Manager Annual Compensation Adjustment#City Manager contract (June 1st annual term)

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    [02:12:53] I could probably say it's the number one thing [02:12:55] in the last three-plus years that I've been approached about, [02:13:00] so I have a tough time voting for this. [02:13:06] Like the chief said, nobody likes getting a ticket, for sure. [02:13:10] As probably the only person up here, possibly in the room, [02:13:14] that's been hit by a red light runner, [02:13:17] I have a somewhat unique perspective on it. [02:13:20] Unfortunately, where I got hit did not have a camera. [02:13:23] I wish it had because they hit me and kept on going. [02:13:28] I'm underwhelmed by ATS, absolutely. [02:13:36] I share Councilman Davis's concerns that the numbers appear [02:13:42] that we've been paying full freight, [02:13:44] even when the cameras have been non-functional. [02:13:48] I'm not happy about it. [02:13:52] On the other hand, somebody gets a ticket, [02:13:54] they deserve it. [02:13:55] A mayor from another city once described it as [02:13:59] a tax on bad behavior. [02:14:01] It really is. [02:14:04] Somebody goes whipping through an intersection, [02:14:08] that's their fault. [02:14:11] It's not us, it's not anybody else, [02:14:14] other than the person that's behind that wheel. [02:14:17] I have had that experience. [02:14:21] I have had citizens that are unhappy about the red light cameras, [02:14:25] but I've also had people that have called me up [02:14:28] begging for the cameras to stay in place, [02:14:30] because it's the only reason that they can get across [02:14:33] US-19 from their house to where they work. [02:14:37] Because prior to the cameras going into place, [02:14:40] we had intersections, and I'm sure the Chief could probably [02:14:44] point some of them out, [02:14:47] where it wasn't so much a situation of the light turning yellow [02:14:52] and people stepping on the gas, [02:14:54] but the light would turn red, [02:14:56] and you would have to count the people that were stepping on the gas. [02:15:00] sometimes five or six cars going through the intersection before somebody would finally stop and [02:15:06] In many cases because of how short the cross lights were by the time the red light runners finished [02:15:13] it was about time for the other light to turn red and [02:15:17] You'd have a real problem getting across us-19 [02:15:24] We definitely need to [02:15:27] Budget in such a way that this is not something that we're dependent on [02:15:33] guys, that's going to [02:15:36] Mean that we need to look at all of our revenue sources for the next year and where we're setting millage [02:15:47] But I'll go along with one year on the extension I do not want to do a five-year extension [02:15:53] I think that's a mistake. I've got reservations about the one-year primarily because of ATS [02:16:05] Any other discussion hearing none all those in favor, please signify by saying aye [02:16:15] Motion passes three to two for a one-year extension [02:16:18] Next item property purchase agreement authorization extension of James Gray Preserve, Florida Wildlife Federation [02:16:26] Ms. Manns [02:16:28] Yes, Mr. Mayor [02:16:30] For some time now [02:16:32] the [02:16:34] Seven acre parcel located at the Southern Terminus of Congress Street has been held by the Florida Wildlife Federation [02:16:45] Federation [02:16:46] There has been some [02:16:48] discussion about the benefit of adding that piece of property to the Gray Nature Preserve [02:16:57] In that regard you will recall that roughly a year ago. We bought [02:17:05] seven acre piece that was owned by Carmen Pasarela [02:17:12] And [02:17:14] Since that time [02:17:15] The Florida Wildlife Federation has contacted the city and it indicated their interest in selling the property [02:17:23] the [02:17:26] Property that the city bought from Carmen Pasarela is in large part [02:17:33] wetland and the characteristics of the seven acre [02:17:37] Site held by the Florida Wildlife Federation is very much the same [02:17:42] The parcel owned by the Pasarela family [02:17:47] was appraised the appraised value was [02:17:51] $175,000 and the city paid that amount [02:17:54] in discussions with the Florida Wildlife Federation [02:18:01] They agreed to accept [02:18:04] $75,000 [02:18:06] plus some closing costs for the purchase of their property which would [02:18:12] Mean that the purchase would come in the area of $80,000 [02:18:18] From the staff's perspective [02:18:20] It is a quite favorable purchase price [02:18:23] And we are recommending that if it's still your collective desire to expand the footprint of the Gray Nature Preserve [02:18:31] That you approve the purchase [02:18:33] Open this up for public comment [02:18:36] Think no one come forward bring it back to Council [02:18:40] To the maker. It just makes sense. It really does. It's just it's [02:18:47] Wouldn't want to leave it or somebody [02:18:50] Could find the upland area on it and build something there [02:18:55] I think it ties in well with the island that we bought in the bayou and brings that all back [02:19:01] Penny for Pascoe money both penny one and penny two [02:19:09] And these all wind up on the river and I just think that it contiguously makes a statement [02:19:20] Thank you to the second [02:19:22] I [02:19:31] The deputy mayor pretty well covered my my thoughts on them [02:19:36] If there's no further discussion all those in favor, please signify by saying aye [02:19:43] Next discussion on city manager annual compensation adjustment as you recall we had the city managers evaluation [02:19:52] Several weeks ago at a meeting unfortunately [02:20:08] About compensation [02:20:12] It is appropriate to discuss this compensation in the terms of [02:20:18] when her contract [02:20:21] Termruns as opposed to the fiscal year [02:20:26] My understanding this manager contract starts June 1st [02:20:30] 2nd and runs on an annual basis from there, so it would be appropriate for us to discuss [02:20:38] her compensation with any adjustment [02:20:42] Would entertain comments from my colleagues. I would propose at least a 2% raise [02:20:52] It's it's and I would flatten it out make it $2,400 [02:20:56] Which is just a little bit over 2% thing with the basis [02:21:01] Is there a reason for [02:21:03] Or is there an option for us to whatever we decide tonight to make the contract coincide with the fiscal? [02:21:11] the remainder of the [02:21:13] the rest of our budget [02:21:16] In saying that and I think I expressed this the last time we brought this up [02:21:22] We're kind of setting the tone [02:21:26] For staff and I I prefer to have the conversation about staff [02:21:32] At one time so that you know we we make it up [02:21:36] making [02:21:38] adjustments or recommendations were or [02:21:41] increase in salaries [02:21:44] That that we're keeping it consistent [02:21:47] The flip side of that would be that if we do that it winds up getting bundled into the budget [02:21:55] We're going to be up to our eyeballs with [02:21:58] I'm sure crystal is going to send us books that are an inch plus thick and I [02:22:03] Think it would get buried, and I'd rather us evaluate our most

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20. 10.h

    Three-Minute Report: Development

    discussed

    The Development Department gave its three-minute report highlighting new permits and projects across the city, including facade changes at Hercules Center, a new wine and cheese shop on Grand Boulevard, Journey Church facade work, North Bay Hospital ER remodel (with upcoming rezoning), new tenants at Southgate shopping center, the Loose Wheel Tap House replacing Estella's on US-19, remodels at MedFleet and River Mist condos, two new single-family dwellings, and a marketing video for the Regency condos. Council also concluded a prior compensation discussion by approving a $2,400 (2%) merit increase.

    • motion:Approve a $2,400 (2%) merit-based compensation increase for the City Manager. (passed)

    📍Brightwaters Court📍Grand Boulevard📍Grand and Davely Lane📍Main Street📍Oldsner and Main📍River Road📍Sunset Road📍US-19📍corner of Main and River Road🏢Estella's🏢Hercules Center🏢Journey Church🏢Loose Wheel Tap House🏢MedFleet🏢North Bay Hospital🏢Pet Supermarket🏢Regency Condos🏢River Mist Condominiums🏢Southgate Shopping Center🏢T-Mobile👤Davis👤Pierce#Residential grant program#Three-Minute Report: Development#Upcoming North Bay Hospital rezoning (July)

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    [02:22:08] senior most important [02:22:10] employee [02:22:11] And deal with that compensation this is an issue that's not clouded by [02:22:25] Everything everything else flows from the recommendations made from on on on her behalf their staff [02:22:34] The other comment I would like to make is in saying that I believe it in this man's contract is [02:22:42] Stipulates that it's a merit whereas our staff. I believe is whether we [02:22:47] interject a [02:22:49] Cost of living raise whatever I know that's conversation. I had with this man's as to you know why [02:22:56] I don't have a problem with it. I just want I just wanted to express that your your second had a slight variation on [02:23:05] but [02:23:06] You were suggesting for 2% [02:23:09] Greece is that okay with me? [02:23:12] Oh [02:23:17] I'd like to leave it at 2% because that's what we gave the [02:23:22] Her staff last year, so I just want to go with it to 2% as a correction [02:23:28] To mr.. Davis's comment the department heads [02:23:33] Much like me are based on a merit-based system, and there raises between 0 and 3% [02:23:39] And I think this man's performance definitely constitutes [02:23:44] $2,400 that we're talking about at a minimum in my opinion an absolute minimum [02:23:51] Who is the is the [02:23:59] Emotion emotion thing I believe is if I understand the maker and the second is for a [02:24:06] $2,400 [02:24:21] What's the difference [02:24:35] Oh my [02:24:47] Forty dollar difference [02:24:50] Take that number somebody I'd like I've made the most I'm sick with ball [02:24:55] 2,400 I'm going with we're going that's okay to the second one. That's [02:24:59] any further discussion [02:25:02] Hearing none all those in favor, please signify by saying aye aye opposed like sign [02:25:09] Thank you [02:25:22] Next we have our three-minute report from the development department [02:25:31] Update on where we are some interesting new permits in the city [02:25:36] In the downtown you will see a change in the facade on the Hercules Center [02:25:41] Which is the corner of kind of the corner of Maine and River Road the northwest side there we have a new [02:25:50] Wine and cheese shop that's going to be taking over the old gallery space along Grand Boulevard, and they're doing an interior [02:25:57] remodel [02:25:59] The journey church on Main Street, which is to the east of the ice cream store. They're going to be doing a exterior facade [02:26:06] the hospital the North Bay Hospital is going to be doing a remodel for the emergency department and [02:26:13] Later in July. I'll be bringing you a rezoning [02:26:17] To allow them to amend some of their setbacks on that campus at the Southgate shopping center [02:26:23] The pet supermarket is taking over an empty tenant space a t-mobile store is taking over a mattress store [02:26:33] There's a new restaurant that's taking over the old Estella's on us-19 [02:26:37] It's called the loose wheel tap house, and they're putting in a suppression system, and they'll be opening up after that [02:26:44] the med fleet [02:26:47] Development on Sunset Road is doing a remodel [02:26:50] The river mist condominiums, which are off of Grand and Davely Lane are getting remodeled as well [02:26:56] We have two brand-new single-family dwellings that have been permitted one is on Brightwaters Court, which is [02:27:03] West of 19 and near Avery Road and the other is on River Road [02:27:09] And then what I wanted to show you [02:27:11] was a video to [02:27:14] Highlight a development that you've seen before [02:27:16] It's known as the region [02:27:18] Regency condos, and it's over off of Oldsner in Maine [02:27:21] And the developer has prepared a really nice marketing video that showcases the city, and I wanted to show you that to you [02:30:00] ♪♪ [02:30:10] ♪♪ [02:30:20] ♪♪ [02:30:30] ♪♪ [02:30:34] Nice. [02:30:36] Yeah, really. [02:30:38] Very nice, thank you. [02:30:41] Ms. Pierce, can I ask you a question? [02:30:43] Most of the development that's coming, is it just coincidental, [02:30:46] or are they using any of our grant money or development money? [02:30:49] I can't speak for the commercial stuff, [02:30:51] but we are currently handing out a lot of residential grant money [02:30:54] for the fix-up of some of the residential properties. [02:30:57] The ones that we just showed you, we're not. [02:31:00] Thank you.

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    Three-Minute Report: Public Works

    Public Works Director Robert Rivera gave a status update on city projects: Orange Lake Improvements (60% design), Madison Street streetscape (site analysis), Stormwater Drainage Improvement at Florida Avenue near Johnny Gritz (30% design), bids out for US-19 median landscaping, City Hall landscaping, and right-of-way mowing, and ongoing construction including the former incubator roof and the 2014-15 Water System Improvement Project at Marine Park. He also reported completed in-house sidewalk work on Grand Boulevard and parking lot repairs at Cody River Park. The Mayor commended public works crews for storm preparation work over the weekend.

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    [02:31:02] Next, we've got a three-minute report on public works, [02:31:05] and I'll preface this by saying in public what I told Robert before the meeting. [02:31:10] I saw his guys out on the streets this whole weekend [02:31:14] getting us ready for the tropical storm. [02:31:16] They were absolutely phenomenal, [02:31:19] and they all need to be applauded for the work they did, [02:31:23] keeping everybody safe and dry. [02:31:25] Robert? [02:31:26] Thank you. [02:31:27] I just wanted to give you all an update on the projects that we currently have going on. [02:31:33] The projects that are in the design phase are the Orange Lake Improvements Project [02:31:37] that we've talked about considerably. [02:31:39] We're at about a 60% design completion there. [02:31:43] The Madison Street streetscape expansion, we're in the site analysis phase, [02:31:49] and that's basically an accumulation of the existing conditions [02:31:54] before you start your conceptual phases [02:31:57] to kind of let you know what you can do and what you can't do. [02:32:01] We're at a 30% design on the Stormwater Drainage Improvement Project, [02:32:07] which is one of the locations that we're looking at [02:32:10] is Florida Avenue in the downtown area right by, I think it's Johnny Gritz, [02:32:17] expanding the storm system there where we have a flood problem. [02:32:20] So we've tried to take and continue the stormwater projects that are smaller scale [02:32:28] but make them more meaningful and start getting in and hitting these hot spots [02:32:32] that we need to improve. [02:32:35] Some of the projects that we have out to bid now [02:32:37] are the U.S. 19th Center Median Landscaping Project. [02:32:41] The bids are due Thursday the 9th. [02:32:44] We've got the City Hall Landscaping Maintenance Service Contract [02:32:48] as well as the City Right-of-Way Mowing Contracts [02:32:51] that those bids are due June 30th. [02:32:54] The existing contracts are set to expire on August 1st of this year. [02:32:59] Projects that are in the construction phase, [02:33:02] the former incubator front roof replacement, [02:33:05] the agreement should be executed this week, [02:33:07] so we anticipate construction to be starting within the next couple weeks. [02:33:12] The 2014-15 Water System Improvement Project, [02:33:16] that's currently over on Marine Park [02:33:19] where they're replacing an existing 8-inch AC main [02:33:23] that we've had some history with several repairs. [02:33:26] We're trying to get that taken care of before the other contractor comes in [02:33:30] and starts installing the multi-use path. [02:33:33] Some of the in-house projects that we've completed [02:33:35] are the sidewalk installation on Grand Boulevard, [02:33:38] Railroad Right-of-Way from Cecilia to the southern city limits. [02:33:42] We finally completed the gap that was in the Hazel Don subdivision [02:33:48] which is off of Trouble Creek Road. [02:33:50] And our crews have one more parking lot to repair [02:33:55] over at the Cody River Park off of Grand Boulevard. [02:33:58] Those little parking inserts that we've had drainage problems [02:34:02] and grading problems, we've gone ahead [02:34:05] and installed some additional draining features in there [02:34:10] and brought in some replacement shell and completed that work. [02:34:15] And that's pretty much all that we've got going on. [02:34:19] Any questions? [02:34:20] That's all. [02:34:21] Thank you, Mr. Rivera. [02:34:26] It's time for communications and reports. [02:34:29] Mr. Starkey. [02:34:30] Well, the video monitor is up. [02:34:33] You all probably know I was a big fan of that, and I'm glad it's up. [02:34:37] It's been brought to my attention, though, [02:34:39] that Elaine has met with event coordinators [02:34:41] to see how much they'd be willing to pay to use the monitor. [02:34:46] I am 100% against this. [02:34:49] I believe the monitor is part of the park. [02:34:51] We're not charging them to use our shade structure. [02:34:53] We're not charging them to use our bathroom. [02:34:56] They want to enlist the services of a production company, [02:35:00] which I highly recommend they do during concerts. [02:35:03] That fee should, of course, be on them and not on the city. [02:35:06] But I think it's just sending the completely wrong message [02:35:09] to put a video screen monitor in the park that we're going to be using [02:35:13] during the day for promotional items for the city, [02:35:17] but also to enhance these events that are in the park [02:35:20] and then ask them to pay to use it. [02:35:22] I'm just 100% against this. [02:35:24] I'd like to get the opinions of my colleagues. [02:35:26] I'd like to cease these discussions, and I just don't think it's right. [02:35:30] I think it's part of the park. [02:35:31] Let them pay their permit fee, [02:35:33] but they should be able to use that for advertising [02:35:35] and make advertising dollars to fund their event. [02:35:42] I'd like feedback, though, from colleagues. [02:35:44] We'll provide them as part of the group. [02:35:46] Well, I'll segue on that. [02:35:49] I would have to agree with Mr. Gorky on that. [02:35:54] I want to thank Elaine and the rest of the staff [02:35:57] that put together the walk on Saturday. [02:36:02] It was really great, the way that it was set up, [02:36:05] the opportunity to chat with people. [02:36:08] I was able to use my cell phone and just let them share [02:36:12] because they started sharing, [02:36:13] and I realized that I didn't have any way to keep that going. [02:36:16] But several of them, you know, it's just really neat [02:36:20] when you see your park and your city in the residents' eyes. [02:36:24] So it was really neat.

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