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City CouncilTue, Dec 1, 2015

Council approved speed cushions on Plathe Road, condemned a fire-damaged High Street duplex for demolition, and hired Genesis Group for $29,250 to design downtown landscaping.

22 items on the agenda · 22 decisions recorded

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  1. 1Call to Order – Roll Call0:00
  2. 2

    Pledge of Allegiance

    Pledge of Allegiance recited followed by a moment of silence honoring servicemen and women.

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    [00:00:19] Here. Thank you. Now stand and join me in the Pledge of Allegiance and please remain standing for a [00:00:27] moment of silence in honor of our servicemen and women at home and abroad.

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    Moment of Silence

    Pledge of Allegiance recited at the start of the meeting.

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    [00:00:31] I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the [00:00:38] Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

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    Approval of the November 10 and November 17, 2015 Regular City Council Meeting Minutes

    approved

    Council approved the minutes of the November 10 and November 17, 2015 regular City Council meetings by voice vote.

    • motion:Approve the November 10 and November 17, 2015 regular City Council meeting minutes. (passed)
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    [00:00:44] Thank you. You may be seated. Next item on the agenda is the approval of the [00:00:58] November 10th and November 17th minutes. [00:01:02] Motion and a second. Any further discussion? All those in favor please signify by [00:01:07] saying aye. Opposed like sign. Minutes are approved. I would ask that Elaine

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    National League of Cities 5 Gold Medal Award - One of 36 Communities Nationwide

    The Mayor recognized the City of New Port Richey for earning gold medals in all five Let's Move Cities, Towns, and Counties goals, one of only 36 communities nationwide to do so. A plaque and congratulatory letter from the National League of Cities were presented.

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    [00:01:16] Smith and City Manager Manz join me at the podium please. [00:01:32] We got a very nice plaque and I'll let you guys fight over who gets to hang it [00:01:37] on the wall somewhere. This is a letter I got dated November 10th. Dear Mayor [00:01:42] Marlow, congratulations. As you know the city of New Port Richey was recently [00:01:46] celebrated at the National League of Cities Congress of Cities for your [00:01:50] achievement of successfully earning gold medals in all five Let's Move Cities, [00:01:55] Towns, and Counties goals. You're one of only 36 communities nationwide this [00:02:00] year to achieve this honor. We are sorry that you are unable to attend the event. [00:02:04] Please find the enclosed plaque which we hope you will display proudly. The [00:02:09] efforts of you and your staff to advance change in your community to create [00:02:12] environments that support healthy eating and physical activity are truly [00:02:15] impressive. We hope you will continue your efforts by participating in Let's [00:02:19] Move All Stars, an advanced set of strategies designed to ensure that this [00:02:24] work continues to progress in your city. We look forward to supporting your [00:02:28] community as you continue your efforts to improve the health of your residents. [00:02:32] Sincerely, Tracy White, Program Director, National League of Cities Health and [00:02:37] Community Wellness. Thank you.

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  6. 6Vox Pop for Items Not Listed on the Agenda or Listed on Consent Agenda2:42
  7. 7.a

    Parks and Recreation Advisory Board Minutes - October 2015

    approvedon consent

    Council moved through the consent agenda, separating out the Parks and Recreation Advisory Board minutes for October 2015 for a vote. The minutes were approved by voice vote.

    • vote:Approve the Parks and Recreation Advisory Board minutes for October 2015. (passed)
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    [00:09:18] Pavlik. [00:09:22] We do the consent agenda first since we can get that we can move that out of the way. [00:09:30] Entertain a motion for the consent agenda? Move to approve the consent agenda. I would like to separate the parks and [00:09:44] recreation, excuse me, the payments for the park recreation and the Sims Park into two [00:09:49] different votes for Kimberly and Horne. Is that okay? Yeah, do we know what the [00:10:00] breakout is between the two? One is $55,000, one is $1,000. $55,000 has to do [00:10:07] with recreation department. Is that in my agenda package? All I show is $56,602.41 [00:10:14] but if that's the breakout, if that's correct, I'm okay with that. Is that [00:10:18] all right? What I have, yes, that is. Okay. In response to your question, Mr. Deputy [00:10:29] Mayor, it is not part of your agenda packet. Councilman Davis asked for the [00:10:33] information earlier today. If we can have a vote on the Park and Rec [00:10:43] Advisory Board minutes. All those in favor, please signify by saying aye. Opposed, [00:10:49] like sign. Now to the payments. Mr. Davis. You know, I would just like to separate

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    Purchases/Payments for City Council Approval

    approvedon consent

    Council split the Kimley-Horn payments by project for clarity, approving the Dallas Construction Development invoice for $40,750.94 along with a $1,080 Kimley-Horn payment for Sims Park, and separately approving a $55,522.41 Kimley-Horn payment for the Recreation and Aquatics Center. Council directed staff to itemize Kimley-Horn invoices by project in the future and to provide a breakdown of what the Recreation Center payment covered in the weekly update.

    • motion:Approve payment to Dallas Construction Development for $40,750.94 and the Kimley-Horn Sims Park payment of $1,080. (passed)
    • motion:Approve payment to Kimley-Horn for $55,522.41 for the Recreation and Aquatics Center. (passed)
    • direction:Staff to break out Kimley-Horn invoices by project going forward and provide details on what the Recreation Center payment covered in the weekly update. (none)
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    [00:10:59] the votes on the Kimberly Horne Association. Associates, I have no problem [00:11:03] with the Dallas one and I have no problem with the Sims Park payment of a [00:11:09] thousand. If you want to put those two together, that'd be fine but I would like [00:11:12] to separate out Parks and Recreation. Then I'd make a motion that we approve [00:11:17] Dallas Construction Development for $40,750.94 and the Sims Park [00:11:25] Kimberly Horne payment. Can somebody give me an exact number? [00:11:32] If you could, please. [00:11:43] $1,080. The other one? That's it. $1,080 is for Sims Park? Correct. Do we have a motion? [00:11:56] Second. Further discussion? All those in favor, please signify by saying aye. Opposed, like sign. [00:12:04] Next item. A payment to Kimberly Horne having to do with the [00:12:13] Recreation and Aquatics Business Center. What's the exact amount of that one? I'm sure that I can do the math if I have to. [00:12:21] Fifty-five something? $55,522.41. Make a motion that we approve the payment to [00:12:31] Kimberly Horne for the Recreation and Aquatic Center. Is there a description on [00:12:36] that one, by the way, Crystal? Mr. Deputy Mayor, in response to the question, we [00:12:45] don't specifically say what items were identified but we identify the project [00:12:51] components and what percent of completion they have achieved. We have a [00:12:58] motion. Do we have a second? To approve the payment? Yes. Second. [00:13:08] A motion and a second for the maker. No, if you could provide it in your weekly update, what it [00:13:14] covered, because obviously I know we did quite a bit of conceptual drawings. [00:13:18] We've done a number of different things. I don't know exactly what we paid [00:13:22] Kimberly Horne for for the Recreation Center to this point, just to be [00:13:27] site-specific, but obviously at this point it would appear that we've [00:13:32] incurred those costs and just want to make sure we're timely or we explain [00:13:38] why we wouldn't want to pay that invoice. I can do that. I agree. The more [00:13:45] specifics the better. There's a lot of discussion when we had the work session [00:13:50] regarding, you know, do we put money in the pool, we just at the fitness center and [00:13:54] join your room for now, there was talk about whether or not we're going to have [00:13:58] the bus loop, so just the more information y'all could give us as we [00:14:00] progress and pay them, that's the direction we're going and staff would [00:14:04] like to go so we could approve the better. [00:14:11] Yeah, I just, the reason this came up to my mind is that I've been asking for a [00:14:17] breakdown of Sims Park and I just started to get it so, you know, I didn't [00:14:21] get a breakdown with $1,000 into the pot of the $3 million and I [00:14:27] didn't have any information on what was going on with the Rec Center, so I would [00:14:31] like, you know, that to be separated. It's not that I don't pay our bills, but I [00:14:35] don't want to cloud the area with this, with what's going on in [00:14:42] Sims Park, what's going on in the Rec Center or any other situation. Can I make a [00:14:47] suggestion since I have the motion? Would you please break them out [00:14:51] individually in the future so we can expedite which ones goes to which [00:14:55] project? I know that we have a tandem agreement with Kimley Horn. [00:15:00] their percentage of fees but if we could just break those out then obviously we [00:15:06] can be clear not only now but in the future if somebody wants to go back and [00:15:10] individually look at what was approved under consent agenda and at some point [00:15:15] I'm sure we'll pull it out and make it an agenda item so we can itemize on [00:15:19] both sides but that's we could do that moving forward I think that would be [00:15:24] helpful all the way around not only for us but for the for the community as a [00:15:28] whole absolutely there's no further discussion all those in favor please [00:15:33] signify by saying aye motion passes now if we can advance item 8e which is the

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  9. 8.e

    Plathe Road - Speed Cushion Installations

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    Council considered installing speed cushions on a newly paved portion of Plathe Road between Baker and Rowan Roads after a speed study showed an 85th percentile speed of 31 mph in a 20 mph zone. After hearing from multiple residents concerned about speeding, pedestrian safety, and wildlife, council reached consensus to install temporary speed cushions immediately (using stock from North River) and then return with permanent asphalt speed humps similar to those on Grand Boulevard, with at least three to four humps including placements flanking the James Gray Preserve entrance.

    • consensus:Direct staff to immediately install the existing stock speed cushions on Plathe Road and then return with pricing/proposal to replace them with permanent asphalt speed humps (at least three to four), including placements flanking the James Gray Preserve entrance. (passed)
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    [00:15:43] Plath Road speaker mr. mayor the purpose of this agenda item is to ask your [00:15:50] permission for the approval of the installation of to be cushions on Plath [00:15:56] Road as you are already aware during our June 2nd 2015 regular City Council [00:16:04] meeting you approved the transfer of ownership from Pasco County to the city [00:16:09] of New Port Richey of a portion of Plath Road since that time the city has [00:16:16] tended to some road construction and at the conclusion of the construction a [00:16:22] seven-day speed study was conducted by the city's Public Works Department the [00:16:27] result of the study indicated that the combined 85 percentile rate of speed by [00:16:34] vehicles traveling east and west was 31 miles per hour the speed limit on that [00:16:40] road is 20 miles per hour therefore the results of the speed study indicate that [00:16:47] some speed cushions need to be installed in place along the stretch of the [00:16:52] improved roadway between Baker Road and Rowan Road we are asking for your [00:16:57] consideration of that request thank you I'm gonna open it up for public comment [00:17:01] at this time anyone that wishes to address us on this issue if you could [00:17:04] come on come on down and while you're coming I'm going to read into the record [00:17:10] a letter we received from Brian and Katie McLuhan this letter is regard to [00:17:15] installing speed humps in the new paved portion of Plath Road we've lived on [00:17:19] this portion of Plath Road for over 16 years and since the James Gray Preserve [00:17:23] has developed the traffic has been overwhelming for our community to [00:17:27] maintain the structure and safety of our neighborhood now that the paving is [00:17:30] complete the speed of the vehicles cutting through to various schools Cody [00:17:33] River Elementary and Gulf Middle and other places we're here for our animals [00:17:38] and we have in the wildlife throughout the preserve not to mention the people [00:17:41] that walk and play in the area the installation of speed humps is a must [00:17:45] there's not any other option now the street is paved also it would be great [00:17:50] to have an officer stationed on the road during rush hours while the schools are [00:17:53] beginning and ending until the speed humps are approved thank you so much [00:17:56] yes sir hi my name is Lutron Boley I live on Plath Road and basically I kind [00:18:04] of looked up some of the information and basically in the eight days what I what [00:18:10] I studied was 728 cars were speeding between 31 and 65 miles per hour so that [00:18:18] averages that's about 91 cars per day and you know with the sidewalks it makes [00:18:24] it even more dangerous so I recommend at least three speed humps 500 feet apart [00:18:31] or maybe even four because for my house is about 370 feet wide as far as my [00:18:37] property and I tested it myself with my car when I leave my car to your to where [00:18:44] you have your speed test I easily hit 40 miles per hour and you had a lot of [00:18:49] teenagers you know they'll speed up and we'll speed up and down that road and [00:18:53] it's it's fast because it's it's rural so you know it looks like it's even [00:18:59] faster just please consider maybe an extra speed I see 700 I agree with you [00:19:18] and this is your neighborhood we paved it y'all lived there a long time I know [00:19:22] you had your speed bumps for years the rest of your neighbors and consensus I [00:19:31] mean I'm looking at the proposed speed hump map and like you're saying when you [00:19:33] get on Plath Road either be from Rowan or especially over here past James [00:19:37] Great Preserve I live on Astor Drive which is a north-south road on long 19 [00:19:41] just south of the bridge and I have two small children and I'd love that speed [00:19:45] humps on my road these people go like you said 60 55 60 miles an hour up this [00:19:50] road and it's half a mile long it's absolutely insane so I can just imagine [00:19:54] especially young kids on a rural paved road just got the driver's license what [00:19:58] they could what you know just temptations there would the rest of [00:20:04] council be okay with three speed humps Robert to see you want to chime in on [00:20:09] this not chime in but give us your opinion I mean it looks like enough [00:20:12] space for three speed humps the slower the better as far as I'm concerned this [00:20:15] is a very good we first of all we installed the tubes to get the speed [00:20:18] study where we thought that we would get the highest rate of speed but there [00:20:23] wasn't necessarily where we were proposing to install the speed cushions [00:20:28] when we ended up getting the result of 11 miles over the which is the 85 [00:20:34] percentile on those results then that's when we decided to split the road up in [00:20:38] two-thirds to where you would have two sets evenly spaced 700 and it came out [00:20:44] to almost 700 feet between both because you also have when you come off of Rowan [00:20:51] Road you have that huge dip get over and come up and start going and so a little [00:20:58] bit after that once you put your a set of speed cushions in there then that [00:21:03] would take care of that traffic coming that way the other traffic coming or [00:21:08] going eastbound would have to it would slow them down basically before they [00:21:13] took a nosedive into that large dip I know what if you're talking about based [00:21:18] on the aerial photo I'm shown with the proposed B bumps if I personally lived [00:21:25] on this road I'd like to move them further to the left and add one more to [00:21:28] the right towards Platte Road I would feel more comfortable with three if we [00:21:31] can get if anybody else from the public wants to address it then we'll bring it [00:21:35] back for discussion thank you [00:21:43] I do want to say we appreciate the 20 mile an hour speed limit but [00:21:52] unfortunately nobody pays attention to your name and address for the road my [00:21:55] name is Ilsa Wilcox 6853 Platte Road thank you I think part of the problem is [00:22:03] that now that the road is paved many people coming down from the east side of [00:22:09] Rowan east of I mean east side of Platte east of Rowan they're so used to [00:22:14] going faster on that section and then so then they just continue through never [00:22:18] even paying attention or maybe even not noticing the 20 mile hour speed limit we [00:22:24] have children in the neighborhood in fact in our house we have a little [00:22:27] four-year-old there are several three to five year old children right in the [00:22:32] immediate neighborhood their parents like to take them to the park occasionally [00:22:37] and obviously since there are no sidewalks they have to walk on the side [00:22:41] of the road and they've told me that with their little children on the side [00:22:45] of the road they've seen cars whizzing past and they're scared it's just not a [00:22:52] safe situation so speed bumps would definitely be a help it's just something [00:23:02] that really is needed at this time thank you anyone else [00:23:13] and your name and address for the record please [00:23:20] my name is Christine Monday six nine zero nine Platte Road first I would like [00:23:30] to say that the road looks beautiful the dust is gone and we appreciate that [00:23:35] there is just one thing that may have been overlooked in the planning of the [00:23:38] road speed humps if you stand at the corner of Baker and Platte and look down [00:23:43] the road it resembles a half-mile drag strip the traffic is heavy and each day [00:23:49] the vehicles drive faster and faster the road has literally turned into a highway [00:23:54] comparable to Platte Road east of Rowan when I walk down the road cars fly by me [00:24:00] at 40 miles plus per hour and come within a foot of me completely [00:24:04] disregarding the 20 mile per hour speed limit it is extremely stressful there [00:24:10] are small children that live on the road in addition to numerous pets which makes [00:24:15] for a constant dangerous situation the lack of speed bumps has created a [00:24:20] dangerous environment to the animals in the preserve and the pedestrians and [00:24:25] bicyclists who frequently use the road just across the road from my house on [00:24:30] the other side of the park of the fence is a gopher tortoise burrow this is one [00:24:36] of several burrows along the fence in the summer the tortoises walk across the [00:24:41] road to eat the grass in our yards there is no doubt in my mind that they will [00:24:45] not make it across that road alive I've also noticed there has been a [00:24:50] significant decline in foot traffic to the park since the road has been paved [00:24:55] if you install the speed humps individuals and families would feel [00:24:59] safer walking or bicycling in the park in conclusion I would say just four [00:25:05] speed humps be installed to slow down the traffic and help ensure the safety [00:25:09] of pedestrians and wildlife thank you anyone else [00:25:25] on some members for listening I'm Charlene Bailey Lassiter and I have [00:25:35] lived on that portion of Plath Road for 38 years and I'm a fifth-generation [00:25:40] Floridian so my area really has been rattled the road the traffic traffic [00:25:52] before was not good they used the doughnuts in the field that's another [00:25:58] concern to me now we have more traffic through there there's nothing to keep [00:26:03] them from going off the road and doing the doughnuts but at the same time there [00:26:11] is no place for walking safely our area is agricultural residential so now even [00:26:22] though the road is nice to travel on we have been put in the city without moving [00:26:31] to the city and we do have a miniature horse and we used to walk the horse like [00:26:36] a dog take her down the road now you're not sure where to get I don't even go [00:26:42] for a walk anymore I am scared to go out there and walk there's just no regard [00:26:48] for your well-being and I don't know what mental state the people are in that [00:26:57] are behind the wheel when they're coming down the road so even talking about the [00:27:03] domesticated animals that we can't walk and being an agricultural area I was [00:27:10] concerned a little upset about the wildlife because we have a preserve out [00:27:17] there but I'm not quite sure how a paved road is preserving what's in the [00:27:25] preserve the animals crossing or going back and forth we've destroyed even more [00:27:31] of their area for the benefit of the traffic that's just cutting through and [00:27:37] not actually going in the preserve when I sit in my family room I see every car [00:27:44] that goes in and out of the preserve and mostly it's a cutthroat rather than [00:27:51] preserve when a car is going down that portion of the road now they can see a [00:27:59] nice straight shot so that's even more enticing we can try this car out let's [00:28:09] see how this muffler sounds or this glass pack or how this v8 is doing or [00:28:13] actually I see how this v6 is doing and Saturday we had a Challenger a Mustang [00:28:20] and a Camaro not all at the same time but within about an hour's period I go [00:28:25] is one calling the other one come out here and try out your vehicle so I'm [00:28:30] hoping that I'm hoping that if we could have at least three speed bumps to four [00:28:42] it would deter maybe they're coming there tur as in to perturb them from [00:28:49] coming that way because if they were going into the preserve and appreciating [00:28:54] it that would be another story so anyway thank you for listening to this thank [00:29:01] you anyone else [00:29:13] seeing no one else come forward I'm gonna bring it back to council Robert [00:29:17] the speed bumps that we're talking or speed cushions that we're talking are [00:29:22] the ones that came out of the North River neighborhood a number of years ago [00:29:25] yes sir how many pairs do we have we have two pairs but the manufacturer is [00:29:31] in Jacksonville so it's you know maybe a matter of four weeks for delivery if we [00:29:37] decided to go with three or four whatever you wish to do the just for [00:29:43] the the benefit of the folks in the audience they were in my neighborhood [00:29:47] I'm presuming none of you have a Ferrari serious question one of my neighbors did [00:29:55] and after we they installed the speed cushions are in a neighborhood he [00:29:58] physically could not get [00:30:00] down the street because they're tall enough. [00:30:02] And I can tell you from the personal pain to my wallet [00:30:07] that if you forget about them and you hit them at speed, [00:30:11] you can do about $1,200 damage to a Silverado's front end. [00:30:15] So be forewarned. [00:30:19] I did go out there and it does look like a potential speedway. [00:30:24] It used to be you couldn't go fast because you'd [00:30:26] fall into the potholes. [00:30:28] Now it's nice and smooth. [00:30:31] So with those comments, I'm going [00:30:33] to open it up to my colleagues. [00:30:34] May I ask you about the speed humps? [00:30:36] The ones in North River, weren't those [00:30:38] the ones that came like this on the side and were real sharp? [00:30:40] They weren't like just the pavement ones? [00:30:42] I hated those things. [00:30:43] Yes, sir. [00:30:43] Those are speed. [00:30:45] You're not going to like them, I'm telling you. [00:30:47] The speed cushion actually is almost like a square pie. [00:30:50] They're horrible. [00:30:51] And it's a little bit longer than a speed hump. [00:30:54] But the thing that it does let you do [00:30:56] is your emergency vehicles, it doesn't [00:30:59] impede their response time. [00:31:02] They can go in between the two and not have to slow down. [00:31:07] But they'll make a car slow down. [00:31:09] Yeah, I just remember when I went over them, [00:31:11] you could never go over them evenly. [00:31:12] Either your right side was catching that side. [00:31:14] Well, that's not fun for anyone's alignment either. [00:31:16] I mean, honestly, I'd like to see the speed humps like we [00:31:18] have on River Road, like New Port Richey has back [00:31:20] in their waterfront section on the south end of the river. [00:31:24] It slows people down. [00:31:25] It's 20 miles an hour. [00:31:26] I mean, honestly, I would not want those speed [00:31:28] humps in front of my house. [00:31:29] They're not fun to drive over, whether they slow traffic down [00:31:31] or not. [00:31:32] If your car can't go over a speed pump evenly, [00:31:35] it's going to cause alignment problems. [00:31:37] It's just I hated those things. [00:31:39] I'm in favor of the speed humps. [00:31:40] I'd like to see at least three. [00:31:42] But I don't propose using those ones just because we have them. [00:31:45] I'd like to see the paid ones, like we have on Boulevard. [00:31:48] Like you have it on Grand Boulevard, you're right. [00:31:52] If I might add as well, it sounds [00:31:55] like there's more to the issue than just slowing down [00:31:59] the traffic. [00:32:01] One of the things I heard, and I'm thinking, [00:32:03] the entrance to that park was tranquil for the part [00:32:08] about the dust and all that. [00:32:10] But it sounds like there's issues [00:32:13] with pedestrian walking, people just [00:32:16] being able to enjoy that road. [00:32:17] So I know there must be other things [00:32:20] that we can do to calm traffic. [00:32:23] So in addition to the speed pumps, cushions, bumps, [00:32:27] whatever you want to call them. [00:32:28] I think what we're looking at is obviously [00:32:31] we want to make sure that we're posting the speed limit, maybe [00:32:37] with some additional signage. [00:32:39] When you put the speed hump or speed cushion signs up, [00:32:43] that's also going to give the drivers a little bit more [00:32:45] notice that they need to proceed with caution. [00:32:48] The problem that you don't want to get into [00:32:50] is to over-identify hazards to where [00:32:55] the driver is just disregarded. [00:32:57] You want them to pay attention to it. [00:32:59] And so there's a fine line between putting up [00:33:02] a dozen signs versus maybe four of them that serve a purpose [00:33:07] and that will command a driver's attention. [00:33:10] So I think we can look at that. [00:33:13] We have ordered the tortoise signs [00:33:16] to go up in that area that the one lady was talking about, [00:33:20] as far as that crossing, to try to maybe take [00:33:24] care of that situation. [00:33:26] So you just don't want to overload with too many signs [00:33:29] because then the driver's disregarded. [00:33:30] Yeah, I'm sorry. [00:33:31] I wasn't suggesting signage. [00:33:32] I was saying, are there other things [00:33:34] to calm traffic in addition to those bumps? [00:33:39] For instance, if there's an issue now [00:33:43] that we put this beautiful paved road there, [00:33:45] but people are not comfortable walking any longer in that [00:33:50] area, so we made a phenomenally beautiful walking [00:33:55] area on that strip of road between 19 and Grand [00:34:00] to create a pedestrian-friendly. [00:34:03] So what is it we can do on that? [00:34:05] When the project first was proposed [00:34:08] and the county and the city were partnering, [00:34:11] we did send out notices to the property owners requesting [00:34:14] an additional 20 feet to be able to do something. [00:34:18] And all of the response that we got back, [00:34:21] I think we only ended up getting four responses. [00:34:23] And all four were no, they didn't even want a road there. [00:34:27] So the only way we could build that road [00:34:29] was to utilize the right of way width that we had, [00:34:33] which was 30 feet. [00:34:34] And that eliminated any possibility [00:34:37] of being able to put a sidewalk in there for pedestrians. [00:34:41] So we were caught between a rock and a hard place as far as, [00:34:46] do you want to construct the road? [00:34:49] Or you couldn't do both, in other words, [00:34:52] I guess is what I'm trying to say. [00:34:54] Once we constructed the road, there was no room for sidewalks. [00:34:58] From a logistical standpoint, Robert, [00:35:00] if you went with the speed cushions you've got in stock, [00:35:05] those would be installed within days? [00:35:09] We could have those. [00:35:10] The crews can be out tomorrow installing the speed cushions. [00:35:13] If we want to go with what we have similar to Grand Boulevard, [00:35:17] I don't know if you would want the decorative, [00:35:19] because I think the ones on Grand Boulevard [00:35:21] have that decorative brick design. [00:35:23] But if you wanted to go with a regular speed hump, [00:35:27] I would suggest, then what we would probably end up doing [00:35:30] is get with the contractor that's doing our road work now [00:35:34] and getting a proposal from them to come out there. [00:35:37] So you probably would be looking at, [00:35:39] if you elected to go with those types of speed tables, [00:35:42] it probably would be a month before you would see them. [00:35:47] But are those the ones that people then came and said, [00:35:49] we don't want them in our road? [00:35:51] Are those the ones you're talking about? [00:35:52] The ones that I'm talking about, [00:35:54] the ones that we have that were on North Road [00:35:56] that people don't like, we could have those up tomorrow. [00:36:00] If you elected to go with the permanent type, [00:36:03] actually the asphalt, that would probably take [00:36:06] about a month before we got them down. [00:36:08] Deputy Mayor. [00:36:10] Why don't we approach this in two phases? [00:36:13] I know that they'd love for us to not put up the signs right [00:36:15] away if you put the cushions up so somebody would take out [00:36:18] a front end so they could talk to their buddy to the next hour [00:36:21] so they wouldn't come through. [00:36:22] I understand that. [00:36:24] Because this road reminds me, and I'm [00:36:26] going to date myself severely, but what [00:36:29] used to be Old Dixie Highway, which is now something [00:36:34] Grand Boulevard going down to Perrine Ranch. [00:36:38] And as a youth, we used to go up and down the dips, [00:36:41] and we used to burn tires, and all that other kind of stuff. [00:36:44] And we didn't mean to bring that to your neighborhood, [00:36:46] absolutely not. [00:36:48] We really thought we were doing a really good thing [00:36:50] because we had built the preserve, [00:36:53] we wanted people to enjoy it more, [00:36:55] we knew all the challenges, and we [00:36:57] had to go back and forth with the county. [00:36:59] And I'll tell you, three years ago, the county administrator [00:37:01] wouldn't have given us a time of day because of our management [00:37:05] here in the city of Newport, because he told me it [00:37:07] to my face. [00:37:08] But we didn't want to create this. [00:37:11] I would like to see you put up the speed cushions immediately [00:37:19] with the second phase to take them out and put the humps in, [00:37:23] because I want to solve the problem today. [00:37:26] I don't want to wait a week or two, [00:37:28] and then you might get the word out that somebody's [00:37:30] banging up their front end. [00:37:32] And then you can come back and do it the right way [00:37:35] like we've done the others. [00:37:37] I think there needs to be at least three or four. [00:37:41] And I'd like them on both sides of the park entrance [00:37:46] so that they slow down, so they have to drive slower [00:37:48] in front of the park entrance, because you [00:37:51] got people pulling out. [00:37:52] Someone's had a long day kayaking or whatever. [00:37:55] I don't want to see accidents there. [00:37:57] I want to be tentative that I appreciate the tortoise signs. [00:38:01] We've had to put the bird signs in New Port Richey. [00:38:04] But that's the way that I would like to approach it. [00:38:08] And obviously, there may be a chance down the road [00:38:11] that we could go back and talk to them now, [00:38:14] now that they've seen the road, or identifying the issues. [00:38:19] There might be a way to go back and talk about how [00:38:22] we can come back with sidewalks. [00:38:25] And remember, this is all on the city's dime. [00:38:28] In a lot of cases, they put the road in. [00:38:30] You would have been assessed, which [00:38:33] we didn't want that, because we knew it was an access point. [00:38:37] Now we've created an issue. [00:38:39] We want to address that for you, but also just [00:38:41] let you know that your county didn't [00:38:43] want to deal with that road. [00:38:45] And we were out there having to level it and grade it. [00:38:47] And we know what kind of lunar surface [00:38:49] it looked like, because we had people going to our park. [00:38:55] We bought property in the city to create another entrance [00:38:57] into the park, so it might limit that traffic. [00:39:01] But right now, we're not limiting [00:39:03] the people that have figured out they can come across there [00:39:07] to get over to the Riverside District, [00:39:09] instead of going down to Baker Road. [00:39:11] So we recognize that. [00:39:13] We want to work with you on those elements. [00:39:17] But I would say, put the first ones up with the signs, [00:39:21] then get the pricing to do the slower ones. [00:39:24] But I think we need at least four. [00:39:27] Councilman Davis. [00:39:29] First Chief, what's the speed limit on your street? [00:39:33] Mine is actually, I live on the other side of Rowan Road. [00:39:38] And our speed is 40. [00:39:41] So people are coming off there at 40. [00:39:42] Yeah, so they're coming off that, [00:39:44] and then they're going downhill. [00:39:45] And so they're increasing. [00:39:46] So I'm surprised it's even 31. [00:39:51] I'd like to put those ones you have in as temporaries, [00:39:55] until you get the others in permanently. [00:39:57] Whether it's three or four, we're [00:39:59] going down from 700 feet to 500 feet, [00:40:01] probably to 350 between each speed bump. [00:40:04] But we want the people that are going [00:40:06] on that road that are going to the park or going home. [00:40:10] If you're going to go to the park, [00:40:12] you're going to be chilling anyhow. [00:40:13] If you're going home, you're going to be chilling. [00:40:15] Let's go with that attitude. [00:40:17] So three or four, we can work that out. [00:40:20] Whichever way you want to go, we want to go as a group. [00:40:24] But what is the possibility of having some kind of caution [00:40:27] light up as people are going west, [00:40:30] as they hit that side of Plath Road, that would just [00:40:34] be a caution light, a yellow blinking caution light [00:40:36] all the time? [00:40:37] I mean, I don't know the rules and regulations. [00:40:40] We don't need it so much coming. [00:40:42] If they've gone down, you guys can help me. [00:40:44] Baker's one of the streets. [00:40:46] What's the other one that's got the speed bumps on it already? [00:40:50] Duncan. [00:40:51] Duncan already has speed bumps at access off Louisiana. [00:40:54] So the people are going to go to Baker. [00:40:56] And Baker got pretty torn up over it because of the storm. [00:40:59] So people are going slow on that right now. [00:41:01] So people coming to the west isn't such a problem. [00:41:04] It's the people coming from the east [00:41:05] and hit that 40 miles an hour and then down the hill. [00:41:09] What are the rules on that? [00:41:11] Well, right now, we have no right-of-way. [00:41:14] The edge of pavement is our right-of-way. [00:41:17] So we've got about maybe three feet in some areas, [00:41:23] depending on how we had to realign the road. [00:41:25] I don't mean that the whole thing. [00:41:26] I don't mean the whole thing. [00:41:27] I mean, just as you crossed Rowan [00:41:30] to going down their section of Plath, [00:41:32] if there was a yellow light to let [00:41:34] them know that the speed limit's changing or slow down. [00:41:38] We could look into it and see what we have over there. [00:41:41] We did adjust the road as best we could. [00:41:43] But I don't know how much right-of-way [00:41:45] we have to be able to even do something like that. [00:41:49] All right. [00:41:50] Make a motion. [00:41:52] Yes, sir. [00:41:53] I move that we install the two temporary speed humps. [00:41:56] And then after that, as soon as possible, [00:41:58] install four permanent paved speed humps, similar to the ones [00:42:01] we have on Grand Boulevard. [00:42:02] Second. [00:42:04] To the maker. [00:42:05] You're going to see what I'm talking about once you get [00:42:07] the permanent ones in, because these temporary ones, [00:42:09] you're going to hate. [00:42:09] But it's something for now. [00:42:11] Chief, I know we have an officer that lives on that road. [00:42:14] He's normally off duty, I would assume. [00:42:16] But maybe for erratically, I know [00:42:19] we don't do a whole lot of work kind of pressed [00:42:21] in as far as traffic enforcement. [00:42:25] But a few tickets here and there, [00:42:27] we'll get the word out as well. [00:42:29] Maybe we could have someone hiding in there [00:42:31] every now and then. [00:42:31] Well, actually, I've made a note. [00:42:34] We've been paying attention over there [00:42:36] as we can with our traffic folks. [00:42:38] But as you said, we are busy. [00:42:41] But I am going to focus on the school hours. [00:42:45] So I haven't had a chance to ask anybody yet. [00:42:48] But is it the morning, or is it the afternoon times [00:42:51] that is the worst? [00:42:53] Afternoons, that's what I speculated. [00:42:55] So I will do a lot, as much as I can, to focus on that, [00:42:59] probably with an unmarked car. [00:43:00] And they may knock on your door and ask [00:43:02] if they could use your driveway. [00:43:05] Are we good for the second? [00:43:07] No, sir. [00:43:08] Councilman? [00:43:09] Nothing. [00:43:10] Councilman? [00:43:11] No, I was just going to say, if there's a police officer that [00:43:14] lives on that street, you should park this vehicle [00:43:16] conspicuously so folks know that there's a police officer. [00:43:19] It is pretty conspicuous, though, too. [00:43:21] But then we also have to be careful of vandals [00:43:23] back there on the police vehicle. [00:43:24] So it needs to be close. [00:43:26] Hey, that's reality. [00:43:29] Hey, you know, we're going to help Mr. Howard over here. [00:43:34] And they get vandalized. [00:43:37] It's a vicious circle. [00:43:38] You will all find out very shortly now [00:43:41] why we wanted to get rid of those things on North River. [00:43:44] But if they help make things a little safer in the temporary, [00:43:49] I think it's a good thing. [00:43:51] If there's no further discussion, all those in favor, [00:43:55] please signify by saying aye. [00:43:57] Aye. [00:43:57] Opposed, blank sign. [00:43:59] Motion passes. [00:44:01] Hope we make it safe. [00:44:03] Robert, I would ask if you could approach the property [00:44:06] owners again about right away to be [00:44:09] able to potentially do a sidewalk. [00:44:11] That would perhaps also be worth discussing.

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  10. 8.a

    Emergency Resolution #2016-02: Abatement and Removal of Unsafe Structure at 6035/6037 High Street

    approved

    Council held a quasi-judicial hearing on Emergency Resolution 2016-02 to condemn and demolish a fire-damaged duplex at 6035/6037 High Street. The property owner is deceased and his son expressed no interest. Council approved the resolution authorizing demolition (estimated $9,000) with intent to lien and foreclose to recover costs.

    Ord. Resolution #2016-02

    • motion:Motion to approve Emergency Resolution 2016-02 authorizing demolition and abatement of the unsafe structure at 6035/6037 High Street. (passed)
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    [00:44:17] Next item on the agenda is emergency resolution 2016-02. [00:44:23] Mr. Poplett. [00:44:25] An emergency resolution requesting [00:44:26] the nuisance abatement of a building subject [00:44:28] to a condemnation order of the building official pursuant [00:44:31] to section 6-151 through section 6-156 [00:44:35] of the code of ordinances of the city of New Port Richey, [00:44:38] finding a clear, present, and immediate hazard [00:44:40] to the safety of persons or property in the subject [00:44:42] property, condemning the subject property, [00:44:46] authorizing the demolition, abatement, and removal [00:44:49] of the nuisances at the subject property, [00:44:50] finding the subject property to consist of partial ID 09261601500C [00:44:57] 000150, located on. [00:45:00] Lot 15, Block C, Old Grove Subdivision number 2, [00:45:03] as per plat recorded in plat book 2, page 69, section 9, [00:45:07] township 29 south, range 16 east of the public records [00:45:10] of Pasco County, Florida, subject property, [00:45:13] and for the other purposes, hand relief. [00:45:17] I didn't get all that. [00:45:18] Can you? [00:45:21] I just want to remind council that this [00:45:23] is a quasi-judicial hearing. [00:45:25] The purpose of the hearing is to determine [00:45:26] whether the subject property meets the criteria [00:45:29] for abatement and removal. [00:45:31] Your decision may be based only on the evidence and testimony [00:45:34] presented at this hearing. [00:45:36] If any council members had any ex parte communications [00:45:38] regarding this matter, I ask that they [00:45:40] be disclosed at this time. [00:45:43] The council may ask questions of the party [00:45:44] after the presentation. [00:45:45] Each party will be given 10 minutes [00:45:47] for their presentations, beginning with the city, then [00:45:51] the property owner, and then any substantially affected parties. [00:45:55] Next will be the public hearing portion, [00:45:57] where anyone from the public may speak for three minutes [00:45:59] with information that is relevant to the matter [00:46:01] under consideration by council. [00:46:04] Then each party will be permitted five minutes [00:46:06] for cross-examination. [00:46:07] All questions shall be directed to the mayor, who [00:46:09] will then ask the party. [00:46:12] Each party will then have five minutes [00:46:14] for their closing argument or rebuttal testimony. [00:46:18] At this time, I'd like to ask the audience [00:46:20] if there's anybody who wishes to be declared a substantially [00:46:23] affected party. [00:46:26] Seeing none, first up would be the city [00:46:29] to give their presentation. [00:46:31] Very good. [00:46:33] Do we have any ex parte communications [00:46:35] that need to be declared? [00:46:36] Yes, sir. [00:46:43] Is this your, you're the owner of 6035 High Street? [00:46:46] Mm-hmm. [00:46:50] There are two of these set for this evening, sir. [00:46:54] OK. [00:46:54] Ms. Fierce? [00:46:56] I think he had another question for you. [00:46:59] Well, no, at this point, it's the city's presentation. [00:47:01] No, I thought you were asking for ex parte communication. [00:47:04] Well, I took a pause. [00:47:05] I didn't see that anybody had any. [00:47:07] I didn't have any. [00:47:09] OK. [00:47:10] On with the show. [00:47:12] So the location of the property is [00:47:14] on the north side of High Street. [00:47:16] It's just east of Madison. [00:47:17] And it contains a damaged duplex that [00:47:22] was damaged by a fire that occurred on November 13th. [00:47:26] The unit was vacant at the time. [00:47:28] And the property owner is deceased. [00:47:31] So there's nobody in the structure [00:47:32] at the time of the fire. [00:47:35] The code authorizes the building official [00:47:37] to condemn the hazardous structures when [00:47:39] there's a clear, present, and immediate hazard, which [00:47:43] is the case for this property. [00:47:45] And there are several site photos to show you. [00:47:49] They show the windows that have been destroyed, [00:47:53] the walls that are unstable, the remains that [00:47:58] are charred beyond repair, the unsafe interior, [00:48:05] the unfit interior that's unfit for habitation. [00:48:09] The city placed a notice of condemnation on the property. [00:48:16] And staff did make contact with the son of the owner. [00:48:19] And he expressed no interest in the property. [00:48:22] He did not want to demolish it or save it [00:48:24] or attend tonight's meeting. [00:48:26] Staff is recommending approval of the resolution, which [00:48:30] authorizes the building official to have the structure [00:48:33] demolished as it constitutes a clear, present, [00:48:36] and immediate hazard. [00:48:37] And I would like to introduce Jim Ebbitt, who's to my left. [00:48:41] He's the building official, and he can speak to the issue. [00:48:44] And Liz Nichols, code enforcement officer, as well. [00:48:50] Thank you. [00:48:52] This would be the point, the property owner? [00:48:56] Yes. [00:48:57] Is there anyone in attendance on behalf of the property owner? [00:49:02] Seeing no one. [00:49:03] OK, and seeing no one that had identified themselves [00:49:06] as a substantially affected party, at this point, [00:49:09] we'd go to the public hearing. [00:49:11] We're going to open this up as a public hearing. [00:49:13] Anyone wish to address council on this matter? [00:49:18] Seeing no one come forward, we'll close the public hearing. [00:49:22] OK, if council has any questions of the city, [00:49:24] this would be an appropriate time to inquire. [00:49:28] How far down the street is this located [00:49:30] from the fire department? [00:49:32] About two blocks. [00:49:35] You don't have to call me, sir, or please, but that's OK. [00:49:39] But yeah, I knew it was on High Street [00:49:41] in that general vicinity, so. [00:49:45] Any other questions? [00:49:48] I just had a curiosity question. [00:49:50] Was it determined what caused the fire? [00:49:54] Not that we're aware of at the moment. [00:49:56] I think the police and fire department [00:49:58] are both questioning it. [00:49:59] It had had vagrants moving in and out of the building [00:50:02] for quite some time. [00:50:04] The gentleman that owned it had died three years ago, [00:50:06] and people were just kind of using it as they pleased. [00:50:10] And the gentleman that is the son of the owner [00:50:12] has no interest in the property at all? [00:50:14] When I contacted him, he said, I will not be there, [00:50:17] and I will not send representatives. [00:50:20] Thank you. [00:50:20] Pretty clear. [00:50:22] If we do proceed with demolition, [00:50:24] it's going to cost us an estimated $9,000. [00:50:26] Are we going to be able to get that money back, or no? [00:50:29] Unless you put a lien on the property, [00:50:30] I don't know of any way to recover it. [00:50:32] Why wouldn't we do that? [00:50:35] Pardon me? [00:50:35] Yeah, there's no reason why we wouldn't. [00:50:37] I anticipate that we'd place a lien on the property [00:50:39] and then initiate foreclosure proceedings to try and recover [00:50:42] our expenditures. [00:50:43] Thank you. [00:50:46] To add to that $9,000, to do the second step you talked about, [00:50:53] rough ballpark on how much that's going to cost us? [00:50:58] Because obviously, we'll own the ground. [00:51:01] The legal fees with that, I mean, [00:51:02] estimate probably $400 to file a lawsuit, [00:51:08] and then we'll have to try and effectuate service [00:51:11] on the heirs, maybe our out-of-pocket $1,000, which [00:51:16] would be tacked on as part of our cost [00:51:19] that we'd be entitled to recover should we [00:51:22] receive a judgment in our favor. [00:51:25] What we'd be able to do once we had a judgment, [00:51:27] we'd be able to go ahead and sell the property [00:51:30] and then make sure we would take our funds out of it [00:51:33] and then disperse any of the excess to any of the heirs. [00:51:40] I'm sorry. [00:51:41] I just want to ask a couple other questions. [00:51:43] Is the site big enough in our new building code layout? [00:51:51] Is it large enough that you could build a new structure [00:51:55] on it, or would it have to be combined with another property [00:51:58] next to it? [00:51:59] I mean, I want my cost out of it, but at the end of the day, [00:52:03] if I buy something that's substandard I can't build on, [00:52:07] then it'll go into the portfolio of other properties [00:52:11] we have in the city that don't meet developmental rights [00:52:16] or have the capability of being repurposed. [00:52:20] It shows on the tax records that it's [00:52:22] a 0.16 acres, which is about a standard city lot. [00:52:26] The building is extremely towards the front. [00:52:29] If it was moved back some, I don't [00:52:30] see that there would be a problem, not on building. [00:52:35] OK. [00:52:35] Very good. [00:52:36] Thank you. [00:52:37] Other questions? [00:52:41] Mr. Publick, would it be appropriate at this time [00:52:43] to close the discussion? [00:52:44] Yes, sir. [00:52:48] Entertain a motion. [00:52:49] Move to approve the resolution. [00:52:51] Second. [00:52:54] Second. [00:52:54] I'm good. [00:52:56] Councilwoman? [00:52:58] Nope, I think we're making the right decision [00:53:00] and moving in the right direction on that. [00:53:03] Davis? [00:53:04] No, also. [00:53:05] Hearing no further discussion, all those in favor [00:53:07] of the motion, please signify by saying aye. [00:53:09] Aye. [00:53:10] Opposed? [00:53:11] Like sign. [00:53:12] Next item is resolution 2016-01, abatement and removal

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  11. 8.b

    Resolution #2016-01: Abatement and Removal of Unsafe Structure at 6829 Garden Drive

    discussed

    Council considered Resolution #2016-01 to abate and demolish a fire-damaged mobile home at 6829 Garden Drive in the Edgewater Gardens Mobile Home Park, which staff said had been illegally converted to a duplex and damaged more than 50% by an October 2nd arson fire. Property owner Mr. Howarth contested the condemnation, arguing the structure could be repaired for approximately $2,000 and had been shored up. The transcript was cut off before a final vote was recorded.

    Ord. Resolution #2016-01

    • motion:Resolution #2016-01 to condemn and authorize demolition of the unsafe structure at 6829 Garden Drive was presented for council action following a quasi-judicial hearing. (none)
    • direction:The Mayor directed that the sixth whereas clause be stricken from the resolution. (passed)
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    [00:53:15] of unsafe structure at 6829 Garden. [00:53:19] Resolution requesting the nuisance abatement [00:53:21] of a structure subject to a common condemnation [00:53:24] order of the building official pursuant to section 6-1 [00:53:26] 7136-183 of the code of ordinances [00:53:30] of the city of New Port Richey, finding the hazardous safety [00:53:32] of persons or the property in the subject property, [00:53:34] condemning the subject property, and authorizing [00:53:36] the demolition and removal of the nuisance [00:53:39] at the subject property, finding the subject property [00:53:41] to consist of parcel ID 062616003000000670, [00:53:50] located at 6829 Garden Drive, legally described as lot 67, [00:53:56] Edgewater Gardens, unit 1, according to map or plot [00:53:59] thereof, as reported in plot book 6, page 67, [00:54:03] public records of Pasco County, Florida, [00:54:06] together with mobile home situated thereon [00:54:08] and all improvements in pertinence [00:54:10] to thereto, a.k.a. 6829 Garden Drive, New Port Richey, [00:54:14] Florida, as shown on exhibit A and for other purposes [00:54:17] and relief. [00:54:19] I'd like to call to council's attention, [00:54:21] I need to strike one of the whereas clauses, which [00:54:23] would be the sixth whereas clause. [00:54:27] I would ask be stricken. [00:54:32] And again, this is a quasi-judicial hearing. [00:54:34] I'm not going to go through the procedures [00:54:35] that we had just gone through, but I [00:54:37] will ask if anyone has had any ex parte communications [00:54:40] regarding this matter to disclose them at this time. [00:54:43] No, I have not had any. [00:54:46] OK, seeing none, the procedure will be the same as prior, [00:54:50] or we went over prior. [00:54:54] I do see that the property owner is present at this point. [00:54:56] I'll ask if there is any parties that [00:54:58] wish to be declared as a substantially affected party. [00:55:04] Seeing none, we'll move forward. [00:55:08] First, the city will give their presentation [00:55:10] with a 10 minute maximum, and then the property owner [00:55:14] will have an opportunity to present his or her concerns. [00:55:22] Next, the city will be able to cross-examine the property [00:55:25] owner. [00:55:26] And after that, the property owner [00:55:28] will be able to cross-examine the city. [00:55:31] And then we will have closing statements by the parties. [00:55:34] Remember, the city's ready. [00:55:38] This property is located within the Edgewater Garden Mobile [00:55:42] Home Park. [00:55:42] It's on the west side of Garden Drive. [00:55:45] It contains a mobile home that was illegally [00:55:48] converted to a duplex, and it was [00:55:50] damaged by more than 50% of its value [00:55:52] by a fire on October 2nd. [00:55:55] And it's unfit and unsafe. [00:55:58] The code provides that unfit, unsafe structures [00:56:02] may be deemed to be a nuisance through a non-emergency [00:56:05] condemnation procedure and shall be abated. [00:56:09] The photographs that I'm going to show you [00:56:11] speak for themselves. [00:56:13] They show evidence of debris, damage to the exterior, [00:56:19] damage to the interior, walls, and ceiling. [00:56:23] The walls are open and unstable. [00:56:28] The insulation is hanging from the ceiling. [00:56:32] The ceiling has been destroyed, and the electrical system [00:56:38] has been compromised. [00:56:43] The condemnation notice for this property [00:56:45] was posted on the property, and all owners and interested [00:56:48] parties were notified of the meeting [00:56:50] through certified mail. [00:56:51] And a notice was published twice in the Tampa Bay Times. [00:56:55] Staff is recommending approval of this resolution, which [00:56:59] would authorize, again, the building official [00:57:00] to have the structure demolished, which [00:57:02] is unfit, unsafe, and a nuisance. [00:57:05] I would add that yesterday, the staff received a letter [00:57:09] from one of the property owners, Mr. Howarth, [00:57:12] who claims the structure can be repaired for $2,000. [00:57:16] And the staff would respectfully disagree with his estimate. [00:57:20] I have a copy, if you care to have one. [00:57:23] I can distribute that. [00:57:24] And again, the building official and code enforcement [00:57:26] are here to speak to any questions you may have. [00:57:32] Thank you. [00:57:33] Next would be the property owner who [00:57:38] wishes to make a presentation. [00:57:39] If you could come up to the microphone, please. [00:58:04] Well, we all just pledged allegiance [00:58:07] to the flag, which I think entails [00:58:11] following the Constitution of the state of Florida [00:58:16] and the United States. [00:58:18] And it's the right of the people to be secure in their persons, [00:58:22] houses, papers, and effects against unreasonable searches [00:58:25] and seizures and et cetera. [00:58:27] So by condemning one of my properties, [00:58:31] I say we're violating our Constitution, [00:58:35] because I own the property. [00:58:36] And I don't want it condemned, because it can be repaired. [00:58:43] Now, you're claiming that it's a nuisance. [00:58:47] And the purpose of this meeting is, as you said, [00:58:50] is to report the condition of the structure [00:58:52] that it should be declared a nuisance [00:58:56] and authorize it to be taken down. [00:58:58] So the definition of a nuisance is, per the city ordinance, [00:59:19] that it's a deteriorating or deteriorating structure which [00:59:22] endangers the life or property by fire or other causes, [00:59:26] unsanitary and unsafe conditions, et cetera. [00:59:36] The letter that I received, by the way, [00:59:40] I received five copies. [00:59:41] I think if we want to cut down on our expenses with the city, [00:59:44] we don't have to send five copies registered on the letter. [00:59:47] But the letter states that I am hereby [00:59:50] directed to correct the unfit or unsafe condition. [00:59:55] Forthwith. [01:00:00] The newly appointed building official, Mr. Everts, appears to be very much concerned [01:00:07] with demolishing one of my residential properties after an arson that resulted in some fire [01:00:14] damage last September. But for the city to demolish the structure would add fuel to the [01:00:21] fire as the arsonist would then have exceeded or succeeded in his attempt to destroy my [01:00:30] property. There have been nine arsons since June of last year. Seven of these were on [01:00:39] properties I own. Perhaps energy would be best put forth in prosecuting the arsonist [01:00:50] than trying to prevent me from repairing the mobile home. [01:00:54] After receiving the letter from the city from Mr. Everts, the fire damage section of the [01:01:04] mobile home was shored up and the quote unsafe condition, it was standing by itself. I have [01:01:15] some pictures I'd like to submit, some photographs. It's shored up per his order and no longer [01:01:24] is structurally unsafe. First of all, I'd like to show you, well you saw the pictures [01:01:33] of the damage. Another point of view here is that it shows the entire structure so it's [01:01:46] just a very small section of the, who should I present this to? [01:01:50] To who? I'll start and then I'll pass them down. [01:01:57] The first one is, as you showed up there, was the actual fire damage. The outside was [01:02:03] boxes that somebody torched and now it looks terrible up there but it was all in boxes [01:02:12] in an orderly fashion. But since then we have boarded up the areas and we've been able to [01:02:20] do this so that it's no longer an eyesore like that. Here's a bunch of pictures showing [01:02:28] how we shored up the roof. [01:02:36] Can we ask the speaker to speak into the microphone? [01:02:39] So they can hear you at home. [01:02:41] I thought I was, but I will speak into it a little louder. Anyway, you can take the [01:02:50] look at those photographs to show that it's shored up. [01:03:03] I also have a building schematic to show you that the overall size of the mobile home is [01:03:11] the portion that was fire damage is, it's serious, but it's minimal compared to the [01:03:27] overall facility and I would like to present that for your viewing pleasure. [01:03:35] Now there is smoke and soot on the walls, but pressure washing and a coat or two of [01:03:42] paint, that can restore a lot of what now looks bad, but even though the fire did not [01:04:12] reach the majority of the residents, without personally inspecting the premises yourselves, [01:04:22] and I invite you to do so, I have prepared a replica of the residents at a scale of one [01:04:29] inch equals one foot. The fire damage supports and the struts I have labeled in blue and [01:04:42] black so you can see just what it is now and I will present that to you. [01:04:49] This is a scale model of the mobile home. The fire was right here and it damaged, the [01:04:56] only thing that really needs to be replaced are these struts here and the supports. [01:05:27] There's about ten of them, which these ones that are in black are the ones that need to [01:05:44] be replaced. I'd like to submit that evidence if you want to check it out closer. It's just [01:05:52] these that need to be replaced. [01:06:09] I don't know that it's necessary to go over the cost and what not, but the structure no [01:06:17] longer presents a nuisance per the definition. I don't think it should be condemned and I [01:06:34] think I should be allowed the opportunity, if you will, to repair the structure. I could [01:06:42] go on with the cost if you need me to, but at this point it's only the determination [01:06:49] if it presents a situation where it's liable to injure somebody or a threat to the society, [01:06:57] so to speak. I can just tell you that I've gone over the cost and it can be repaired. [01:07:04] I ask that you don't condemn it. That's about it for me. [01:07:11] That would be the cross-examination by the city. The city would have an opportunity to [01:07:41] ask the property owner any questions and then upon the conclusion of that, the property [01:07:46] owner then would be able to ask the city representative questions. [01:07:50] I have a few questions for the speaker. [01:07:58] Mr. Howarth, are you aware of the entitlements afforded to this property? [01:08:12] What do you mean by entitlement? [01:08:14] Are you aware of what's permitted on the property as it's currently zoned? [01:08:19] I am. [01:08:22] Are you aware that the property is zoned Mobile Home Park, which allows one mobile home structure on the property or one single family dwelling? [01:08:30] It is a single family dwelling, but the state also mandates, our state legislature mandates that the city, which they haven't done, [01:08:38] they should allow for mother-in-law apartments, but this structure is, even though you claim it's a duplex, [01:08:46] that doesn't make any reason that it should be torn down. [01:08:54] I'm just looking for a yes or no answer. [01:08:56] Well, I'd like to tell the whole truth, and I can't tell the whole truth by a yes or no answer. [01:09:02] Was the structure ever rented as a duplex to more than one tenant at the same time? [01:09:07] It was shared by one tenant. [01:09:16] Is that a yes or a no to the question? [01:09:18] No, it was not. [01:09:20] Did you apply to get a permit to convert the structure to a duplex? [01:09:25] I did not apply for a permit. I don't know that a permit is needed to do any work on a mobile home. [01:09:32] A mobile home is considered a trailer, and per the FEMA guidelines, no permit is required, [01:09:39] even though the city mandates that there is one, the higher authority is the FEMA code. [01:09:48] Are you aware that you are not able to make improvements to the property unless you're an owner-occupant of the property? [01:09:56] I'm aware of that. [01:09:58] You're proposing that you would be doing the work to repair it, is that correct? [01:10:03] I may become an owner-occupant. [01:10:05] Thank you. [01:10:10] Next. [01:10:11] At this time, the property owner would have an opportunity to inquire to the city. [01:10:15] You may ask any questions you have, sir. [01:10:32] I really don't have any questions at this time, but I'd like to be able to [01:10:40] I'd like to reserve the right to ask a question if [01:10:46] Well, the process, sir, at this point, this is the opportunity to ask questions. [01:10:49] The next process is going to be the closing statement of the city, [01:10:53] and then you'll have an opportunity to give your closing statement, [01:10:56] and then council will deliberate and make whatever decision they have. [01:10:59] All right. I really don't have any questions. [01:11:04] Ms. Fierce, closing statement. [01:11:05] Thank you. Staff? [01:11:06] Would I be able to bring a witness? [01:11:10] That would have been needed to have taken care of during your initial presentation, [01:11:13] any witnesses you have. [01:11:14] The only portion that is left at this point is to give your summation [01:11:18] or your closing argument as to why your position should prevail. [01:11:23] Oh, well, I would have liked to bring a witness [01:11:25] who can confirm the condition of the mobile home. [01:11:30] Anyway, I'd just like to [01:11:34] At that time, unless council directs otherwise, that time has passed. [01:11:39] Ms. Fierce. [01:11:40] Thank you. Staff, again, is recommending approval of the resolution, [01:11:43] which, again, would authorize the building official to have the structure demolished. [01:11:48] Staff's belief that it's unfit, unsafe, and a nuisance. [01:11:51] We are in disagreement with the estimate for the repair. [01:11:54] We think that it will cost more than the $2,000 that's been quoted in the letter [01:11:59] by one of the property owners, and we think it exceeds the 50% rule. [01:12:06] Mr. Harworth, closing statement. [01:12:09] Thank you. [01:12:18] Regardless of whether you dispute the amount of cost for the repair, [01:12:25] we're here tonight to determine whether this mobile home [01:12:32] should be condemned, [01:12:35] and if it does, if it is, creates, is a nuisance [01:12:39] to the degree that it creates a safety issue, [01:12:43] which it's already been shored up. [01:12:47] You know, I can respond to those things, [01:12:49] which are not really part of whether it should be condemned or not. [01:12:54] The value of the mobile home is $16,000. [01:13:00] Per the appraisal, which I have, I'd like to submit it, actually. [01:13:05] I'm sorry. [01:13:21] So my estimate of $2,000 to do the repair, [01:13:25] by FEMA guidelines, I would be allowed $8,000 to do the repair [01:13:29] because my appraiser, who I've hired an independent appraisal, [01:13:37] per FEMA guidelines, shows that it's $16,000, [01:13:42] and I should be able to spend $8,000 if... [01:13:47] Oh, sorry. [01:13:51] But those are not the arguments that really need to be made at this point [01:13:56] if it's got to be torn down because I can't comply, [01:14:01] then at that point we'll tear it down, [01:14:05] but right now it doesn't meet the criteria that it should be removed. [01:14:25] The FEMA guidelines are that I be allowed to, [01:14:31] as an owner-occupant or an owner, [01:14:33] to submit a bona fide cost estimate from the suppliers, [01:14:44] which I have already done. [01:14:49] The costs are very minimal. [01:14:52] You may be... [01:14:53] Your cost estimate may be per floor to building code, [01:14:57] but the... [01:15:00] The mobile home does not have to conform to Florida building code. The mobile homes only [01:15:08] can be repaired with equal to the same materials which they were originally manufactured and [01:15:17] I have that ruling if you'd like. Like I say, that isn't what is argued here. It's whether [01:15:24] or not the building is an unsafe building at this point and it really has been shored [01:15:34] up and it's ready to be repaired. So I ask that you let it be. That's about all. [01:15:41] Thank you, sir. I'll open this up for public comment on affected parties since we had nobody [01:15:55] who were affected. Seeing no one come forward, I'm going to bring it back to council. [01:16:02] My opinion is that I have to trust the staff that we have in place to advise us. Another [01:16:20] thing that keeps sticking out in my head is this is a mobile manufactured home. It's not [01:16:25] a single family dwelling where a corner burned down and you just go in and repair it. Unless [01:16:31] you're in the field of actually building mobile homes, manufactured homes, I don't even see [01:16:36] what would qualify you to be able to do the repairs. Based on the photos that I see and [01:16:40] what staff is advising us, I would say in my opinion from what I've seen, you seem like [01:16:46] a very nice person. I'm not trying to tear down your assets by any means for no just [01:16:50] cause, believe me. But it looks to me and based on the information given to us by staff [01:16:55] that the damage does exceed 50%, in which case it would require demolition. Just because [01:17:01] you put plywood up to cover up a fire, I mean, the photos that I'm looking at are just, you [01:17:07] know, the damage is extensive here. And once again, it's a mobile home. It's not a block [01:17:10] structure or even a frame structure where you can go in and repair a side or a corner. [01:17:15] It's a pre-manufactured home. And, you know, these things burn up like that. They go quick [01:17:21] because I'm sure you found out if you've had seven arsons in the last few years. But [01:17:26] that's where I'm at on this one. Based on the photos and information given to us by [01:17:29] staff, I know this is an asset. I'm sure you depend on the rent coming in from that asset. [01:17:34] But that's where I'm leaning at this point. [01:17:37] That's a motion. [01:17:39] Does anyone else have comments or are we waiting for a motion? I just passed the appraisal, [01:17:46] so I'm going to give our colleagues a minute to make a comment while we wait. [01:17:57] Well, what a juxtaposition between these two pieces of property that we just looked at. [01:18:03] You know, the first one where there was no one here at all that had any interest at all, [01:18:07] and then Mr. Haworth to be here and to go to such lengths to express your concern and [01:18:16] interest in the property. [01:18:19] You know, the challenge is a couple. It sounds like it's a mobile home that has been built [01:18:24] around, and I know that has happened a lot in Florida, you know, where there were trailers [01:18:31] and now they're not. You know, they're in place. And although the portion of it that [01:18:39] has been damaged, you know, a picture's worth a thousand words, so it was interesting to [01:18:45] see the pictures, which I'm assuming took place at the time of the fire, and then to [01:18:49] see that you've definitely taken some care and concern in cleaning it up and, you know, [01:18:53] trying to make it less of a nuisance. [01:19:00] You know, there's a very famous commercial on television right now, you know, like it [01:19:04] never happened, but I think that, you know, that an underlying concern is that with it [01:19:11] having been a mobile home and that portion of the property that you're trying to repair [01:19:15] is the mobile home, I'm not sure that there's a safety issue in trying to repair that part [01:19:25] of it to make it habitable. [01:19:28] I think the other concern was that if more of the property that's standing now is not [01:19:36] the mobile home, but the storage unit, cabana, those other pieces around it, it's, you know, [01:19:44] what part of that are you repairing to make it go beyond the 50 percent of the mobile [01:19:50] home itself, which I think is the one that's been damaged. [01:19:52] So I know that we, you know, this is just sort of challenging to make decisions like [01:19:59] this. I know that it was a property a few months ago where there was, you know, distress [01:20:06] and it appeared there was absolutely no salvage in that property and, you know, we were, you [01:20:12] know, wandering into that area of whether or not it can be repaired. [01:20:18] Being repaired and making it safe enough to meet standards is, you know, is the question. [01:20:26] So I'm not convinced we should condemn it based on your willingness to make those repairs, [01:20:45] but I'm just not convinced that that is really the best way to go in this situation. [01:20:56] Thank you, Mr. Mayor. I want to talk with the staff first so I understand some of the [01:21:05] process and then I can deal specifically with the photographs and the conditions and the [01:21:16] references made in the appraisal, which was just briefly looked at. [01:21:26] There was, and let's take the $2,000 off the plate. I don't care what you think it costs, [01:21:33] okay? I really don't care because every time somebody's come to us recently and given us [01:21:38] a number, we don't like the number. But number one, I don't really care about that. It could [01:21:44] be $100,000. If you wanted to spend it, I'll let him go spend it. [01:21:49] The bottom line that I see here is there seems to be, and maybe I'm missing the disconnect, [01:21:58] that he's establishing some FEMA guidelines and we have some city guidelines, and at what [01:22:07] point does one override the other? Because, you know, he made a reference to the Beatles, [01:22:15] so that was the first thing, let it be. But my thing is, who has jurisdiction? If this [01:22:23] would have happened in an act of God, would we follow anything we have in our code? I [01:22:34] want to clear the field as to, I guess, who the referee is. Because I've seen enough football [01:22:40] games on Friday, Saturday, and Sunday recently, that they don't even know what the rules are. [01:22:45] So if you can clarify, because I want to make sure that when I give my opinion, that I'm [01:22:51] following whoever has jurisdiction, okay? [01:22:56] Yes, sir. Mr. Phillips, as the building official, I'm also the floodplain manager for the city. [01:23:04] In order to have flood insurance on single family homes for it to be provided for mortgages [01:23:09] because you cannot buy a mortgage if you don't have, if you're in a flood zone, we [01:23:15] joined the ISO. We joined the corporation that provides that insurance. FEMA gives us [01:23:22] standards that we have to follow, and the commission, as the ruling board, went through [01:23:26] that ordinance when we did it and decided that they would do this, they would do this, [01:23:29] certain things. And the more things you do, the cheaper your insurance gets. So we have [01:23:35] to follow federal law in the area, but that's not truly the question on this building. [01:23:41] This building has been taxed for the last, ever since it was put in in 1966, as a single [01:23:46] family home. When we arrived at the home and were talking about it, it was two distinct [01:23:53] different houses. There is no access between the units. We had to go around the building [01:23:59] and come in the front door on the other side. The other side was not damaged as bad, but [01:24:03] that was when we noticed the fact that I've never seen a duplex trailer. I don't know [01:24:08] of any manufacturers that manufacture a duplex trailer. It has two kitchens, two living rooms, [01:24:14] it has two of everything, and they're totally separate, but there's one electric meter. [01:24:18] And you'll notice the last slide that there was without the meter, that meter box has [01:24:25] been tampered with. There has been an electric box tapped into the side of it and covered [01:24:30] with fiberglass. That's illegal. You can't do that. The night of the fire, there was [01:24:36] a drop cord plugged into that and it went across the fence over to another property [01:24:40] on the back. When we asked, when the making of it into a duplex was done with doors, just [01:24:50] door slabs. That's what we found on the other side. And Ms. Nichols here had been in the [01:24:58] house back in 2011 after it was purchased, and it was not in the same condition when [01:25:06] we went back this year looking at it. It was now two houses, or it was a duplex. [01:25:14] So basically in four years, or what are five years, they turned it into a non-conditional [01:25:18] use? [01:25:19] Yes, non-conforming. [01:25:20] Non-conforming use. [01:25:21] And it's zoned for single family. [01:25:24] The process that would have to be, if the decision was made to allow him to spend up [01:25:33] to the 50% rule and all the stuff we ran into after the no-name storm and the hurricanes [01:25:39] and all those things that we've had. Mr. Starkey is an insurance agent here, so he probably [01:25:44] deals in that 50% threshold conversation on a regular basis. One, he'd have to pull personal [01:25:53] permits to go through this process. We're talking about structural members because he [01:25:58] showed us his example, which was very creative, and I appreciate that. [01:26:07] So there would be that process. There'd be all the fees, and there'd be the before, during, [01:26:13] and after inspections to give it an... Because it's going to have to get an occupancy permit [01:26:18] if it goes back into service. I have the floor. I gave you 10. You had five more. If you'll [01:26:29] allow me to finish my thoughts, I'm sure somebody will let you finish yours. But at the moment, [01:26:34] I didn't interrupt you. I'm trying to get to the bottom of this so that I can make a [01:26:38] decision. Now either you're going to let me do that, or I'll shut up right now and I can [01:26:42] make a quick decision. So what one is, I need to understand both sides of the argument, [01:26:49] and then I'll make a decision. But until then, I don't need any more. You gave me all your [01:26:54] input. [01:26:54] Sir, this is closed to public comment at this point. [01:26:59] Process and fees, he'd have to get an occupancy permit. If at any point he would exceed that [01:27:04] 50% rule, it would trigger another action. [01:27:11] When you get into mobile homes, and this is one of the problems with mobile homes, the [01:27:19] manufacturers, the DMV, which actually regulates mobile homes, determines that the building [01:27:26] official cannot say what the percentage of damage is on a flood damage or a FEMA involved. [01:27:34] The only person that can make that decision is the insurance company and the owner. Because [01:27:42] for all intents and purposes in the state of Florida, mobile homes are vehicles. The [01:27:48] problem that comes into effect when you look at the building, I don't know if the mobile [01:27:53] home was a double side, a twin, I don't know whether it was or not. It looks like it was [01:28:01] a single wide mobile home that had additions done to the side of it that were then converted [01:28:08] into living spaces. It was probably a carport or a garage, a utility room, that's what was [01:28:13] mentioned on the board. But since that time, it has evolved into a completely different [01:28:17] home. The work that was done was unpermitted. The work was substandard that was done with [01:28:23] it. I don't know how it can be converted back. And I don't know, with that 80% rule, whether [01:28:30] FEMA, when you get into FEMA and it talks about the 50% rule, but we have an ordinance [01:28:34] in zoning that says when it's 50% non-conforming, we have a local ordinance in the zoning department [01:28:41] that allows it not to be replaced back if it's more than 50%. [01:28:44] I'm familiar because we've had other issues recently with a property that had two buildings [01:28:50] on it. One went down, the other one was still there. It was non-conforming, the whole series [01:28:54] of things. So I appreciate that and I want to make sure I had the right steps in line. [01:28:59] I want to make sure I had some jurisdictional. I appreciate the DMV reference because I had [01:29:05] forgotten that, that that really is because most of them have a license plate on them [01:29:09] because they're called mobile homes for a reason, so you can hook up and take them off [01:29:13] and do all that. [01:29:16] But then again, you've got fees and then obviously at the end of the day, it's returning it to [01:29:22] a form that we would want people to feel comfortable inhabiting and not placing into a substandard [01:29:31] structure even if you replace timbers and all that. So I think I've got the information [01:29:36] I need. Thank you. [01:29:43] Some of this illegal portion, it's not mobile? This part that's closed? You can't tell. [01:30:00] The side that did not burnt had been built from appearance. [01:30:08] It just looked like it had been built on site. [01:30:10] It did not look like any mobile home manufacturing that I had seen done. [01:30:14] Thank you. [01:30:16] It looks like it's on the ground. [01:30:18] It doesn't look like it's up. [01:30:20] It's pretty low. [01:30:24] Any other questions? [01:30:27] Entertain a motion. [01:30:28] Move to approve the resolution. [01:30:30] Second. [01:30:31] Do you want to speak to the maker? [01:30:33] No, once again, thank you staff. [01:30:34] Mr. Worth, I'm sorry. [01:30:35] I know this is an asset of yours, but it's a non-conforming structure. [01:30:38] That's obvious by looking at the photos. [01:30:40] Thank you for making that point. [01:30:42] Move to appeal to the circuit court when we see your file. [01:30:45] Second. [01:30:46] And I'll leave it at that. [01:30:49] Councilwoman? [01:30:50] No, thank you. [01:30:52] Deputy Mayor? [01:30:53] No, I'm fine, Mr. Mayor. [01:30:55] Let's go. [01:30:56] Okay. [01:30:57] Hearing no further discussion, all those in favor of the motion, [01:30:59] please signify by saying aye. [01:31:01] Aye. [01:31:02] Opposed? [01:31:03] Light sign. [01:31:04] Motion passes. [01:31:06] A break, Mr. Mayor? [01:31:07] Yes, sir. [01:31:08] Let's take a 10-minute break. [01:31:10] Is 8C, Downtown Landscaping Improvement Project,

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  12. 8.c

    2015/2016 Downtown Landscaping Improvements Project - Design Task Order

    approved

    Council approved a contract with the Genesis Group for an amount not to exceed $29,250 for the design of the 2015-2016 Downtown Landscaping Improvements Project, a $300,000 project including parking lot frontage improvements, removal/replanting of Drake Elm trees, fence replacement, and median ground cover upgrades on Main Street. Council discussed tree species selection, fencing options (suggesting decorative aluminum fencing), and using pavers or saved antique bricks in parking lot medians.

    • motion:Authorize the city manager to enter into a contract with the Genesis Group for an amount not to exceed $29,250 for design of the 2015-2016 Downtown Landscaping Improvements Project. (passed)
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    [01:31:15] design task order, Ms. Manns? [01:31:18] Yes. [01:31:19] The request before you this evening is to enter into a contract with the [01:31:23] Genesis Group for an amount not to exceed $29,250 for the design of the [01:31:29] 2015-2016 Downtown Landscaping Improvements Project, [01:31:35] which is a $300,000 project and involves elements such as the downtown [01:31:41] parking lot frontage improvements, [01:31:43] removal of the existing Drake Elm trees downtown, [01:31:47] and replanting of those trees around the city stormwater pond located at [01:31:52] Main Street and Old Main Street, removal and replacement of the existing fence [01:31:57] and replacement of appropriate trees for an urban setting downtown, [01:32:02] and finally, [01:32:03] ground cover upgrades in all medians located on Main Street in the downtown [01:32:07] area. [01:32:08] The city has had experience with the Genesis Group in the past. [01:32:12] It has been favorable. [01:32:14] The price that they are requesting for their services on this project is [01:32:21] fair and consistent with industry standards for this type of work. [01:32:25] We, therefore, [01:32:26] recommend that you authorize that the city manager enter into a contract with [01:32:31] them for the work. [01:32:33] Thank you. [01:32:34] Open this up for public comment. [01:32:37] Seeing no one, come forward. [01:32:39] Bring it back to council. [01:32:40] Move for approval. [01:32:41] Second. [01:32:42] To the maker. [01:32:45] There's a lot of elements within the cover memorandum and the scope of work [01:32:52] which all could be divided into a number of conversations, obviously, [01:32:56] but is there a new tree element, [01:33:08] a new tree type that's going to be installed in downtown for the [01:33:14] We haven't got to that point yet. [01:33:16] Well, I know it's a task order size, but, you know, [01:33:18] that gets to be a little bit of a, we are in football season now. [01:33:22] We're almost in the playoffs. [01:33:23] So I just am trying to understand because, you know. [01:33:28] Sure. [01:33:29] In our preliminary meeting that we had with the consultants, [01:33:31] we had explained to them what comments that council had given us over the [01:33:38] timeframe as far as wanting to try to open up the downtown area and have [01:33:43] the storefronts visible now to the merchants and those types of things. [01:33:48] And we expressed to him that we wanted them to come back with a proposal [01:33:54] of a few different types of trees that would fit those criterias and then [01:33:59] actually have him come here to a council meeting and give a little bit of a [01:34:05] conceptual plan to give you an idea of the two or three different types of [01:34:11] trees that he would recommend. [01:34:13] I appreciate that. [01:34:14] And again, I'm glad you didn't use the phrasing, [01:34:17] what we've said over and over for the last couple of years when it comes to [01:34:20] the different kind of tree types downtown. [01:34:22] And I think it's great that we're transplanting these and putting them in, [01:34:27] you know, [01:34:28] keeping them so that we don't run into that conversation. [01:34:31] And I want to make sure that any press releases or anything that's done, [01:34:34] that that's highlighted over and over again. [01:34:39] And that we're changing out the fencing there on Main Street. [01:34:45] Unfortunately, [01:34:46] we can't take some of those trees and put them around some of the properties [01:34:50] across the street, [01:34:51] but that's strictly a personal reference at the moment. [01:34:55] But at the end of the day, [01:34:59] you know, [01:35:00] this is our thoroughfare. [01:35:03] It has a much higher use now because of all the things that are happening, [01:35:11] especially from Main Street landings to the east. [01:35:16] So that's the reason I think it's time to move this along. [01:35:20] The second? [01:35:22] Well, I've hated that fence for a long time. [01:35:24] I mean, [01:35:25] it's just, [01:35:26] it's the entranceway to our city and it's just horrible looking. [01:35:28] So I'm glad we're able to save the trees that we're removing. [01:35:31] Are we going with just a dip chain link fence? [01:35:34] Or are we going to do like the aluminum, [01:35:35] nice decorative fence like we have near the Sarazen Bookout? [01:35:39] It said black. [01:35:40] It's like a black. [01:35:41] Is it a dip black? [01:35:42] Or are we doing the aluminum decorative fencing? [01:35:44] We weren't looking at the aluminum. [01:35:46] Have you looked at pricing? [01:35:47] One of our residents used to own an aluminum garden. [01:35:49] He's still pretty high up, [01:35:50] up in Brooksville. [01:35:51] And he manufactured some right in Spring Hill, [01:35:53] Brooksville, [01:35:54] I'm not sure. [01:35:55] He could maybe try to get us a deal on that. [01:35:56] We can take a look at it. [01:35:57] It would look very, very nice around that retention pond. [01:36:00] If not, [01:36:01] the black dip fence would look much nicer. [01:36:04] Are you saying dip? [01:36:05] Dipped. [01:36:06] Dipped. [01:36:07] Yeah. [01:36:08] It's a process. [01:36:09] Oh, dipped. [01:36:10] Dipped. [01:36:11] Gotcha. [01:36:12] But please look into that aluminum decorative fencing. [01:36:14] I mean, [01:36:15] it's expensive, [01:36:16] but it's not a huge amount of area we're looking at. [01:36:18] And it would just look so much nicer. [01:36:21] The building department recently approved us [01:36:24] getting a green-hinted fence in our backyard, [01:36:28] which actually looks very nice [01:36:30] and would also look nice on that corner. [01:36:33] Now, one more question. [01:36:34] What are we doing with the parking lots exactly? [01:36:37] The frontage of the parking lots? [01:36:39] What exactly? [01:36:40] We're trying to meet the minimum standards [01:36:42] for the land development code. [01:36:44] Right now, [01:36:45] if you notice, [01:36:46] a lot of the parking lots that are in our downtown area [01:36:49] don't have the hedges. [01:36:50] And Ms. Fierce would be able to tell you [01:36:52] the height that it needs to be, [01:36:54] but we're actually in non-conformance. [01:36:56] So the idea is we have the consultant [01:36:58] take a look at those parking lots, [01:37:00] come up with a recommendation [01:37:01] of what type of hedge frontage landscape [01:37:04] that we need to put around those parking lots [01:37:06] so that we can be in compliance. [01:37:09] With our own. [01:37:10] Yes, that's a good idea. [01:37:12] But, Damon, [01:37:13] that aluminum fencing we used [01:37:14] right in front of Chamber of Commerce as well [01:37:15] to deter the bike traffic. [01:37:16] Correct. [01:37:17] That's the type of fencing I'm referring to. [01:37:19] Right. [01:37:20] Councilwoman? [01:37:21] Can you differentiate for me the Drake Elms? [01:37:24] Are those the ones on Grand Boulevard, [01:37:26] south of Maine, and on...? [01:37:30] The Drake Elms are the ones [01:37:32] that are in the historical district [01:37:34] that are along Grand Boulevard [01:37:36] in front of the greater Main Street [01:37:38] and the museum and stuff. [01:37:40] So it's not the ones on the north side of Grand, [01:37:42] north side of Maine on Grand. [01:37:44] It's those tall, ugly... [01:37:47] All of those in the historical district, [01:37:49] the ones in front of the mayor's business [01:37:52] is Drake Elms. [01:37:53] Really? [01:37:54] Because the ones near the mayor [01:37:56] looks like they're... [01:37:57] The mayor's has been in for about six, seven years. [01:38:00] Haven't they, mayor? [01:38:01] And the other ones are just two years old. [01:38:03] They've been in longer than that. [01:38:05] Yeah, but prior to the two-year-old ones, [01:38:07] those same trees that are there [01:38:09] in front of the art gallery, [01:38:10] those are the ones you're replacing. [01:38:12] Right. [01:38:13] The ones that were previous [01:38:15] before the Drake Elms [01:38:16] were the Savannah Hollies. [01:38:18] But I think the ones that are in front of the mayor's [01:38:20] was part of the streetscape [01:38:22] number one phase, [01:38:24] which was about 15 years ago. [01:38:29] Yeah, it was before we moved into that location in 2004. [01:38:33] Those, we refer to them nicely [01:38:37] as the Hansen's Disease Elms [01:38:40] because they look like they've got leprosy [01:38:42] and they shed these nasty little leaves [01:38:47] that blow under the doors [01:38:48] and into the office and on the carpet and everywhere. [01:38:52] And the only ones that seem to like them are the ducks. [01:38:55] So it's all of those Drake Elms? [01:38:58] Yes, ma'am. [01:38:59] Are there any other trees on Main Street? [01:39:02] Those are different trees that are on Main Oak? [01:39:05] The ones that are on Main Street [01:39:07] that are in the historical district [01:39:08] in front of City Hall are live oak trees. [01:39:10] The ones that are over in the Palm District [01:39:12] that would be west of the bridge [01:39:14] are all crape myrtles. [01:39:16] Okay, thank you. [01:39:18] And those would remain. [01:39:19] Yes, crape myrtles. Thank you. [01:39:22] Councilman Davis? [01:39:24] I don't have green thumbs. [01:39:27] Okay. [01:39:31] You're on the Swanson lot. [01:39:33] I know we've backed this back and forth. [01:39:35] You talk about doing ground covers [01:39:37] in those little islands there. [01:39:40] I think it would really dress it up [01:39:42] if you could match the pavers that are in Sims Park [01:39:45] and kind of fill in. [01:39:47] Because those become real trip hazards. [01:39:49] And trying to water those with the heat [01:39:51] and we're going to be sharing that parking lot [01:39:54] in the future with the Hacienda and everything else. [01:39:57] I just think if you eliminated that element [01:39:59] and just put pavers into those areas [01:40:04] or at least give us the option [01:40:05] to look at what that pricing would be [01:40:07] and tie that parking lot together with the Hacienda, [01:40:10] together with Sims and Orange, [01:40:12] I just think it finishes the presentation there. [01:40:17] Sure. [01:40:18] And one of the other things we did talk about [01:40:20] was we have some of the bricks that are from [01:40:24] when we did our streetscape project [01:40:26] that tore up the intersections. [01:40:28] We saved a bunch of those antique bricks. [01:40:31] And so we had talked about maybe that was an option [01:40:34] that we put those in between those medians [01:40:37] in the parking lot as well. [01:40:39] But we can give you both options [01:40:41] when the consultants hear for the presentation. [01:40:43] Thank you. [01:40:45] Any further discussion? [01:40:47] All those in favor, please signify by saying aye. [01:40:49] Aye. [01:40:50] Opposed, the like sign. [01:40:52] Next is Cooperative Funding Agreement [01:40:55] North Park Stormwater Improvements. [01:40:57] Mr. Rivera. [01:41:04] This item for council to consider [01:41:05] is the approval of the attached [01:41:07] Swift Mud Cooperative Funding Agreement [01:41:09] for the North Park Stormwater Improvement Project. [01:41:14] This CFA calls out for the construction [01:41:17] of a stormwater pond at 6251 Delaware Avenue, [01:41:21] which is just east of Van Buren Street. [01:41:25] That area historically has street flooding [01:41:29] and repetitive home flooding. [01:41:31] This is one of those properties [01:41:33] that we purchased a couple years ago. [01:41:36] With your approval, that was part [01:41:38] of our stormwater master plan update [01:41:41] that identified that as an area [01:41:43] that we should try to look at. [01:41:45] Again, it's strictly a betterment project. [01:41:50] It will also call for installation

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  13. 8.d

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    Cooperative Funding Agreement - North Park Stormwater Improvements

    approved

    Council approved a cooperative funding interlocal agreement with the water management district providing $20,000 for the North Park Stormwater Improvements project, which includes an overflow structure allowing the pond to discharge into the existing stormwater system once it reaches a certain elevation.

    • motion:Approve the cooperative funding interlocal agreement for the North Park Stormwater Improvements with $20,000 from the district. (passed)
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    [01:41:53] of an overflow structure to where [01:41:56] once the pond fills up at a certain elevation, [01:41:58] it will be able to go into the existing stormwater system. [01:42:02] The cooperative funding in this interlocal agreement [01:42:06] is $20,000 from the district, [01:42:08] and we would recommend approval. [01:42:11] Move for approval. [01:42:12] Second. [01:42:14] Mr. Manker. [01:42:15] Nothing. [01:42:16] Second. [01:42:18] Councilman Starkey. [01:42:19] No comments, thank you. [01:42:21] Mr. Rivera. [01:42:22] I'm still trying to figure out this map. [01:42:24] For some reason, it's upside down. [01:42:27] And Brian, no matter how I turn it, [01:42:29] it doesn't go right-side up. [01:42:35] Okay, I see where we're at. [01:42:38] There's no further discussion. [01:42:40] All those in favor, please signify by saying aye. [01:42:42] Aye. [01:42:43] Opposed, the like sign. [01:42:44] Next item is the request for purchase [01:42:47] police vehicle emergency equipment. [01:42:50] Mr. Mayor, members of the council, [01:42:53] as you are aware at your last city council meeting, [01:42:56] you approved the purchase of six vehicles [01:42:59] for the police department. [01:43:01] At that time, we were not prepared to advance to you [01:43:04] a request to purchase and install [01:43:07] the emergency equipment and accessories [01:43:10] necessary to suit these vehicles for our uses. [01:43:14] The presentation this evening requests [01:43:19] that you authorize the purchase of the equipment [01:43:22] and accessories through Dana Safety Supply Incorporated [01:43:28] for a price not to exceed $62,916.50. [01:43:36] The recommended supplier is a sole source, [01:43:41] or I'm sorry, is related to the Tampa Bid Award. [01:43:46] And with your approval, we would like to go forward [01:43:51] with the purchase of these items for the vehicles. [01:43:54] Thank you. [01:43:55] Open it up for public comment. [01:43:57] Seeing no one come forward, bring it back to council. [01:43:59] Move for approval. [01:44:00] Second. [01:44:01] Motion is seconded to the maker. [01:44:02] Second. [01:44:04] Coming, and we're glad to see it moving so quick. [01:44:08] Deputy Mayor? [01:44:09] No, sir. [01:44:10] Councilman? [01:44:11] No, thank you. [01:44:12] Me too. [01:44:13] All those in favor, please signify by saying aye. [01:44:14] Aye. [01:44:15] Opposed, the like sign. [01:44:17] Next is request to purchase portable radios. [01:44:20] Mr. Mayor, the request before you this evening is to purchase [01:44:23] three HG-25 Harris portable radios from Communications [01:44:28] International Harris Corporation at a total cost of $4,870.68. [01:44:35] We did receive quotes for the purchase. [01:44:39] Since it's under our bid threshold, [01:44:42] we did not seek competitive bids.

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  14. 8.f

    Request to Purchase Police Vehicle Emergency Equipment

    approved

    Council approved the police department's request to purchase emergency equipment for a police vehicle. The item passed on a voice vote with no public comment.

    • motion:Move for approval of the request to purchase police vehicle emergency equipment. (passed)
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    [01:44:45] Thank you. [01:44:46] Open this up for public comment. [01:44:48] Seeing no one come forward, bring it back to council. [01:44:50] Move for approval. [01:44:51] To the maker? [01:44:52] Nothing. [01:44:53] To the second? [01:44:54] No. [01:44:55] Councilman Berkey? [01:44:56] No comments. [01:44:57] Thank you. [01:44:58] Deputy Mayor? [01:44:59] I'm good. [01:45:00] All those in favor, please signify by saying aye. [01:45:01] Aye. [01:45:00] In favor, please signify by saying aye. [01:45:01] Aye. [01:45:02] Opposed, the like sign. [01:45:04] Next is request to purchase K-9 vehicle heat alarm system. [01:45:08] Yes, the system is a request from the police department [01:45:14] to equip the third of our K-9 vehicle units [01:45:17] with a heat alarm system from Radiotronics. [01:45:21] The total cost of the unit is $2,477.75. [01:45:28] The safety system prevents injuries to the K-9 units [01:45:32] during times of overheating, as the system includes [01:45:36] a heat alarm, a cooling fan, a door popper, [01:45:38] and a remote control. [01:45:41] We are recommending that you authorize the purchase [01:45:44] so that we can equip the vehicle with a vehicle heat alarm [01:45:49] system. [01:45:49] Thank you. [01:45:50] I'll open this up for public comment. [01:45:52] Seeing no one come forward, bring back to council. [01:45:54] Move for approval. [01:45:55] Second. [01:45:56] To the maker. [01:45:57] The dog's going to use the remote control? [01:46:00] Just kidding. [01:46:01] Nothing. [01:46:04] To the second. [01:46:06] No. [01:46:10] Well, the only question I have is, [01:46:11] do we just have one K-9 unit, and just this unit [01:46:15] is going to have these? [01:46:16] We have three K-9 units, and the other two units [01:46:18] already have the equipment on their vehicles. [01:46:21] Thank you. [01:46:21] OK. [01:46:22] Just make sure they're all connected. [01:46:23] Thank you. [01:46:24] Councilman Starkey. [01:46:26] I was wondering the same thing. [01:46:27] Thanks for letting us know all the dogs will be protected now. [01:46:31] There's no further discussion. [01:46:32] All those in favor, please signify by saying aye.

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  15. 8.g

    Request to Purchase Portable Radios

    discussed

    Council considered a request to launch the annual membership discount drive at the Recreation and Aquatic Center, offering a 20% discount on memberships sold from December 6, 2015 through January 16, 2016.

    • motion:Motion to approve the annual membership discount drive at the Recreation and Aquatic Center.
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    [01:46:34] Aye. [01:46:35] Aye. [01:46:35] Opposed? [01:46:36] Like sign. [01:46:37] Next, Parks and Rec Board resignation application [01:46:39] and roster acceptance. [01:46:43] Did I miss one? [01:46:44] Yes. [01:46:45] Oh, annual. [01:46:45] I'm sorry. [01:46:46] Annual membership drive, Rec and Water Department. [01:46:49] Thank you. [01:46:49] Mr. Mayor, members of the council, [01:46:51] the purpose of this item is to seek your permission [01:46:54] to launch an annual membership discount [01:46:59] at the Recreation and Aquatic Center. [01:47:02] Typically, it's this time of year that memberships [01:47:06] are sold on a discount basis. [01:47:09] The discount is 20%. [01:47:11] The memberships are sold from December 6, 2015 [01:47:15] through January 16, 2016. [01:47:21] In the communication prepared by Ms. Smith of December 1, 2015, [01:47:28] she indicates the resident and the non-resident rates [01:47:31] if you approve us going forward with the membership [01:47:36] drive this year. [01:47:37] Thank you. [01:47:38] I'll open it up for public comment. [01:47:40] Seeing no one come forward, bring it back to council. [01:47:46] Second to the maker. [01:47:49] What kind of numbers do you generate? [01:47:52] I know we do this twice a year. [01:47:56] Have we done this twice a year? [01:47:58] No, we do the annual. [01:48:01] This is just for annual memberships [01:48:02] at the end of the year in December. [01:48:04] And then in the summertime, the last few summers,

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  16. 8.h

    Request to Purchase K-9 Vehicle Heat Alarm System

    discussed

    This transcript segment appears to be misaligned with the agenda item title (K-9 Vehicle Heat Alarm System); the discussion is actually about a recreation/aquatic center membership promotion, group membership rates, and prior year sales figures ($26,515 in annual memberships). No motion or vote occurred in this excerpt.

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    [01:48:06] we've done a three-month membership, a 90 days [01:48:08] of summer type of membership. [01:48:11] How do we plan on communicating all this to the public? [01:48:17] We will roll out our promotional campaign. [01:48:20] We have several different ideas of some fun things to do. [01:48:23] But it'll be also Facebook ads, we'll boost ads, [01:48:28] and then press releases, and flyers, and so forth. [01:48:35] Just a question, what constitutes a group of two, [01:48:37] a group of three, a group of six? [01:48:40] These were the new rates that were just approved by council [01:48:43] several months ago. [01:48:44] We did away with the terminology to use families, [01:48:48] because there are so many different types of families [01:48:52] these days. [01:48:53] And we decided that way that we'd actually [01:48:56] be able to generate more people, because you could get a group, [01:48:59] and you're going to get a discount if you brought [01:49:01] a group of friends together and signed up at the same time. [01:49:04] So we're hoping that it's actually [01:49:06] going to encourage more people to join. [01:49:09] Thank you. [01:49:12] I was going to ask the same question, so thank you. [01:49:16] And just push, I would push that, let them know. [01:49:19] They don't have to be family, if you have five neighbors [01:49:21] and want to get together and start a network center together, [01:49:24] make sure they know. [01:49:25] They don't have to be related, they [01:49:26] don't have to just whoever shows up together. [01:49:29] Absolutely. [01:49:30] Councilman Davis, do we remember approving this [01:49:32] the last couple of years? [01:49:33] Do you have any numbers on what percentage of our members [01:49:36] come through this membership drive [01:49:38] versus the rest of the year? [01:49:41] All I have is what the actual sales did last year, [01:49:44] and they were actually down a little bit last year. [01:49:46] It was $26,515 sold just on the annual memberships, [01:49:53] just during that time frame. [01:49:54] We do know two reasons that those sales are down. [01:49:57] Number one, we've had a large influx of people [01:50:01] joining as silver sneakers, so therefore they're not [01:50:04] purchasing an annual membership. [01:50:05] And we're now collecting that revenue as a daily admission [01:50:08] every time they come in and swipe their card. [01:50:10] And also, too, I don't feel like that the membership [01:50:13] promotion was as strong last year as it could have been, [01:50:16] and we're going to make a concentrated effort to do [01:50:19] a better job with that this year. [01:50:20] Well, just quick numbers. [01:50:21] I'd probably say it's 25 people on a $150 membership. [01:50:27] I'm not sure what you're asking. [01:50:29] I'm saying roughly about 25 memberships [01:50:32] you got during that promotion. [01:50:35] No, I'm sure it's more than that, at $26,000.

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  17. 8.i

    Annual Membership Drive - Recreation and Aquatic Center

    approved

    Council accepted Mike Copeland's resignation from the Parks and Recreation Board, advanced first alternate Joy Phillips to the full member position, and added Dana Souters as an alternate. Mayor disclosed Joy Phillips is his wife but did not abstain as there was no financial gain; he requested a recognition letter/certificate for Copeland's long service.

    • motion:Accept Mike Copeland's resignation from the Parks and Recreation Board, advance Joy Phillips to full member, and appoint Dana Souters as alternate. (passed)
    • direction:Prepare a recognition letter or certificate thanking Mike Copeland for his years of service on the Parks and Recreation Board. (none)
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    [01:50:38] Oh, $26,000. [01:50:40] I was thinking $2,600. [01:50:41] So it's more like $200. [01:50:44] It could be, yes. [01:50:45] $250. [01:50:47] OK, thanks. [01:50:49] It's a great Christmas present. [01:50:50] Yes, that's why we do it this time of the year, [01:50:52] also, too, because we do holiday gift cards, certificates, [01:50:56] and people do take advantage of that. [01:50:57] And then we're also trying to target people [01:50:59] with the New Year's resolutions, hopefully. [01:51:04] There's no further discussion. [01:51:05] All those in favor, please signify by saying aye. [01:51:07] Aye. [01:51:08] Aye. [01:51:08] Opposed, like sign. [01:51:10] Next is Parks and Rec Board resignation application [01:51:12] and roster acceptance. [01:51:15] Mr. Mayor, members of the council, [01:51:16] as indicated to you in your email communication, [01:51:20] we have been advised by Mr. Mike Copeland of his intent [01:51:25] to resign from the Parks and Recreation Board [01:51:28] if you accept his resignation. [01:51:32] Accordingly, we have a first alternate, Mrs. Joy Phillips, [01:51:37] who would be advanced to fill the vacant full-time member [01:51:41] position. [01:51:43] We also have an application from Ms. Dana [01:51:47] Souters for a vacancy on the Parks and Recreation Board. [01:51:50] So she would be advanced to serve [01:51:53] in one of the alternate positions. [01:51:57] Open it up for comment from the public. [01:51:59] Seeing no one commenting, coming forward, [01:52:02] bring it back to council. [01:52:03] Move for approval. [01:52:05] We have a motion. [01:52:07] Oh, good. [01:52:08] Chopper, can you take the motion? [01:52:10] Can you second it? [01:52:11] Sure, second. [01:52:15] Mr. Public, do I have to declare a conflict? [01:52:19] Because Joy Phillips is my wife. [01:52:22] Do I need to file the appropriate forms? [01:52:24] I don't believe so. [01:52:25] There's nothing that I see. [01:52:26] I was thinking about abstaining, but that [01:52:28] wouldn't allow me much peace at home. [01:52:31] I just wanted to make sure I wasn't, you know, [01:52:33] there's no financial gain here. [01:52:35] I appreciate your disclosure, just [01:52:37] mentioning it is sufficient. [01:52:38] And I would like, my only other comment [01:52:41] is I'd like to have a nice letter or some kind [01:52:43] of certificate for Mike Copeland for his long years of service. [01:52:49] And somebody can document all of those. [01:52:52] Because it's nice to have him come on board. [01:52:54] It's nice for him to serve. [01:52:55] And it's nice for us to say thank you on their way out. [01:52:58] How long, do you have any idea how long he's been there? [01:53:02] He's been there with Dave Schrader. [01:53:04] Well, we did that thing. [01:53:06] You have that Christmas thing. [01:53:07] The volunteer. [01:53:08] Yes. [01:53:09] Forward. [01:53:09] Yeah, we did that last year for Mike Hughes. [01:53:13] Let's do a similar type thing. [01:53:14] OK. [01:53:18] Any further discussion? [01:53:20] Should I ask Amber to be an alternate? [01:53:22] She's a little fucked out here. [01:53:25] Amber's my wife. [01:53:26] Yeah, well, Ms. Summers, if you've got the applications, [01:53:33] Jeff can take that home. [01:53:37] For everybody's benefit, when my wife comes up on this, [01:53:43] I routinely abstain from hers. [01:53:49] And she knows it. [01:53:50] So far, it has not caused me problems at all. [01:53:55] If there's no further discussion on this one, all in favor, [01:53:58] please signify by saying aye. [01:53:59] Aye. [01:54:00] Aye. [01:54:00] It's a like sign. [01:54:03] Next is the three-minute report from Economic Development. [01:54:08] Thank you very much, Mayor. [01:54:12] Just to stay on track, I have a real quick PowerPoint. [01:54:15] Only 20 seconds per slide. [01:54:17] It just keeps me on track. [01:54:18] OK. [01:54:29] Can we center that? [01:54:30] Because I seem to be off center. [01:54:34] OK, we'll just kind of work with what we have here. [01:54:36] It needs kind of a zoom here. [01:54:39] Just in terms of what we're doing [01:54:40] inside Economic Development, we're [01:54:42] currently finalizing the Hacienda bid. [01:54:44] And we're getting together with the low bidder [01:54:47] to kind of go over. [01:54:48] There's like 12 to 14 divisions within that bid [01:54:52] that we have to focus on specifically. [01:54:54] Because there's a specific set of sequences [01:54:56] that that process is going to continue on. [01:54:59] We're in RFQ 16-007. [01:55:06] And this is a residence of Orange Lakes. [01:55:09] We're hoping to get a short list of qualified developers [01:55:13] for that property. [01:55:14] The final submission date for that will be December 18th. [01:55:19] I hope that we'll be able to come before council [01:55:21] with a recommendation of the ranking for developers. [01:55:26] Actually, I heard from Mr. McGurn today. [01:55:28] Main Street Landing is progressing. [01:55:30] I believe the engineering firm has contacted development. [01:55:33] It's kind of gone over the details that [01:55:35] is required to continue to move forward. [01:55:37] And that was forwarded to us by Mr. McGurn. [01:55:40] We have a new administrative assistant. [01:55:41] Her name is Joyce. [01:55:42] And she comes well-practiced in that role [01:55:46] and has a lot of experience. [01:55:48] A lot of her effort will be in the processing of the grants. [01:55:52] The last item here really is the progress of the grant program. [01:55:56] And just to kind of highlight that, [01:55:59] the ratio is for every $2 that we invest in our city, [01:56:03] the business and property owners are investing another $3 more. [01:56:07] We think as we get deeper into these projects [01:56:08] and bigger projects, that ratio will actually [01:56:10] improve a lot more. [01:56:13] Just some statistics on the grant program here. [01:56:16] On the commercial facade grant, we [01:56:18] have received eight applications. [01:56:20] The total construction amount is close to $80,000. [01:56:24] The grant to be awarded would be totally about $38,000. [01:56:28] We received 10 applications in the business facade program. [01:56:31] We're at about $75,000. [01:56:33] And again, the grants that would be matched with that [01:56:36] would be $30,000. [01:56:38] Leasehold improvements, 14. [01:56:40] And I guess that's $194,000 there. [01:56:44] And again, the matching grant here would be approximately [01:56:47] $75,000. [01:56:48] So we have a total of 32 applications [01:56:52] with an estimated capital investment of $350,000, [01:56:56] of which $149,000 will come out of the grant program. [01:56:58] So we have a budget here balanced, [01:57:00] at this point in time, of $303,000 [01:57:03] to work with for additional applicants. [01:57:07] This is kind of a hard slide to see, [01:57:08] but I like this visual here. [01:57:10] It gives you an idea of the different locations [01:57:13] where this money is being invested. [01:57:15] As you can see, a lot of the downtown property owners [01:57:18] have taken advantage of it. [01:57:19] Some of them are taking advantage [01:57:21] of the commercial leasehold. [01:57:23] You see, like, the number three of this property here, [01:57:25] actually, is looking at all three [01:57:27] components of the grant program. [01:57:29] You might see this property here, where they've inquired, [01:57:32] but we don't have an application in. [01:57:34] And then you can see over here, next to Main Street Landing, [01:57:37] we have an application in for that. [01:57:39] We have some really strong interest here. [01:57:42] The feedback from the business owners [01:57:44] is a really great program. [01:57:45] It's nice to see. [01:57:47] They really like this program, [01:57:49] and they really feel it's a benefit and a help. [01:57:51] And they're all looking forward [01:57:52] to making additional investments [01:57:53] into their different properties and businesses. [01:57:56] Just the Marine District, real quick. [01:57:58] We have a very large piece here [01:58:00] that we haven't received the application yet, [01:58:02] but we know the property has been purchased. [01:58:06] We actually have one up here on Tidal Wade Lane [01:58:09] that's just recently applied there, [01:58:11] and that's improved that messed up awning [01:58:13] that's kind of over that property. [01:58:15] This is an interesting property here, [01:58:17] and the fact that it was a house that was in foreclosure, [01:58:20] a city business owner that had built [01:58:23] this substantial customer base [01:58:24] actually acquired that property [01:58:26] and is relocating their business to that property. [01:58:28] And the last one I want to show you here

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    Parks and Recreation Board Resignation, Application, and Roster acceptance

    Transcript segment does not actually cover the Parks and Recreation Board resignation/application/roster item; instead it contains staff reports on a Highway 19 commercial property revitalization, a prospective gondolier business from Providence RI, and a slum/blight demolition program recap for 2015.

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    [01:58:30] is really how a Highway 19, [01:58:34] the grant program is very effective. [01:58:37] This is a 40,000 square foot building. [01:58:40] It is a vacant property. [01:58:42] It's been vacant for three and a half years on Highway 19. [01:58:46] Actually, there was, I believe, [01:58:47] two police reports to that building. [01:58:50] 40,000 square feet, inside was water damage. [01:58:53] It needed a new roof, [01:58:55] and we've been working with this property owner [01:58:57] for at least a year to be able to try to find a tenant. [01:59:00] And a very nice property owner, [01:59:02] we just really can't find anybody [01:59:04] because if you see how it is, [01:59:05] it's kind of blocked by this sign here. [01:59:07] It doesn't have good presentation, [01:59:09] and it's kind of tucked back in a corner here, [01:59:12] and it's just been vacant for that long. [01:59:15] This is the building now. [01:59:18] We've been working with the property owner [01:59:21] to bring in a firm that actually takes [01:59:24] what we call overstock. [01:59:26] These are new items that are overstock, [01:59:29] say like a Home Depot or a Lowe's, [01:59:31] and they have two other locations [01:59:34] in Hillsborough County. [01:59:36] This is their Pasco County location. [01:59:38] As you can see as you drive by there, [01:59:40] they've fixed the front up. [01:59:42] They are now open for business. [01:59:44] They've hired up to five to six employees. [01:59:48] They've signed a four-year lease, [01:59:50] and the landlord has also provided incentives [01:59:53] in regard to that. [01:59:54] And you can see here, [01:59:55] this is kind of what the inside looks like. [01:59:56] If you kind of go in there, [01:59:57] it's all new items here. [01:59:59] The owner. [02:00:00] of the business has completely improved the inside [02:00:02] of this property and has put quite a bit of capital into it. [02:00:04] So additionally, there was some issues with the back [02:00:08] of the property where it wasn't being well-maintained [02:00:10] and the tenant actually went back and cleaned up that [02:00:13] and basically been chasing away some of the challenges [02:00:16] that they've had around this property. [02:00:17] So this is a good example of how the program is able [02:00:21] to help a business on Highway 19 and, you know, [02:00:25] the rent on a monthly basis is quite substantial. [02:00:28] And the last item here is we're always trying [02:00:31] to promote the city and we've been pursuing this guy, [02:00:34] Marcello, up there in Providence, Rhode Island. [02:00:37] He came down and toured our city and we're always trying [02:00:40] to find new and interesting ideas in terms [02:00:42] of getting different types of businesses. [02:00:44] And we had a, this guy has actually a very successful [02:00:47] gondolier business up in Providence and is looking [02:00:50] to winterize his business by coming down here [02:00:53] to Florida and has looked at four different cities [02:00:55] and we were one of those cities [02:00:56] and spent a better part of the afternoon with him. [02:00:59] And they have a very, very solid operation on how to market [02:01:03] and sell and we would hope that next year [02:01:05] when they consider locating their very authentic boats [02:01:08] that they would consider our city and they're really, [02:01:10] really pleased to see, of all things, you need a bridge [02:01:15] and they like that fact of all things. [02:01:17] So that's what we're trying to do here. [02:01:21] Thank you. [02:01:21] Thank you. [02:01:24] Next item is a three-minute report on development. [02:01:32] I usually don't talk to you unless I have PowerPoint [02:01:34] so I'll have PowerPoint tonight again too. [02:01:36] And I guess I'm going to continue the theme [02:01:38] that I started tonight, which is demolition. [02:01:40] I wanted to talk to you about the success of the slum [02:01:43] and blight program for 2015, starting with the property [02:01:47] at 6116 Madison Street. [02:01:51] This was demoed in March of this year and it was, I guess, [02:01:57] somewhat hidden by foliage [02:01:58] so maybe you wouldn't have recognized it. [02:02:00] But you couldn't tell that the ceiling was caving in [02:02:04] and it was unsanitary throughout. [02:02:07] But today it looks like maybe a conservation lot. [02:02:13] Then there's a property on Louisiana and the doors [02:02:17] and the windows were missing and the ceiling was falling in. [02:02:20] And there was a tree, actually, [02:02:21] that was growing through the living room. [02:02:24] Portions of the plumbing were also removed on that one. [02:02:28] And that was demoed in May [02:02:30] and it's a much more attractive property. [02:02:34] On Vermont Avenue, the structure was unsecure. [02:02:39] The front porch was collapsing. [02:02:42] Windows were missing or broken [02:02:44] and the pool was particularly unsanitary. [02:02:47] In that lower left photo, you can see how green it was. [02:02:52] And now it's probably never looked better. [02:02:57] This property is on Tennessee Avenue [02:03:00] and the roof had holes in it and it was decayed [02:03:03] and it was pulling away from the house [02:03:06] and the windows were missing [02:03:07] and there was a partially collapsed shed [02:03:09] on the back of the lot. [02:03:12] And this structure was demoed in October [02:03:14] and it's never been a better neighbor [02:03:18] than it is now as a vacant property. [02:03:21] And then there's this one on Idyllwild [02:03:23] and when we found it, the roof was dilapidated and decayed [02:03:29] and there were holes in the walls [02:03:31] and the ceiling was falling into the house. [02:03:33] And this was another one that was demoed in October. [02:03:37] That's the one that we had the big public hearing about? [02:03:41] With the lady and the husband next door with some health issues? [02:03:48] No, that was School Road. [02:03:49] Okay. [02:03:49] That was the School Road one, right. [02:03:53] The final one I wanted to show you

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  19. 8.k

    Three-Minute Report: Economic Development

    discussed

    Council communications and reports: Councilman Starkey announced he will run for re-election in February. Councilwoman promoted the 16th annual River Lights Boat Parade. Deputy Mayor raised multiple items including the Adams Street crosswalk activation timing, a request to draft a red light camera cancellation letter effective after January 1, planning a thank-you/recognition for the original super playground volunteers ahead of the Sims Park reopening, and safety concerns with pavers around Orange Lake. Councilman Davis asked for a Sims Park grand opening date and said he had not yet decided on re-election.

    • direction:Deputy Mayor directed staff (Ms. Manns) to prepare a draft red light camera cancellation letter to go out shortly after January 1. (none)
    • direction:Deputy Mayor directed staff to prepare an overview of the Plath Road construction to present to the County Commission as a thank-you. (none)
    • direction:Council direction to set and announce a Sims Park grand opening date as soon as possible. (none)
    • direction:Direction to address paver/concrete safety hazards around Orange Lake walkway, using pavers reclaimed from the Sims Park contractor. (none)
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    [02:03:55] was another property on Madison Street [02:03:58] and this is one that's directly across the street [02:04:01] from North Bay Hospital. [02:04:02] This is on the west side of Madison. [02:04:04] In this case, the doors and windows were broken [02:04:07] or they were missing or they were boarded [02:04:09] and portions of the electrical system were missing [02:04:12] and it was very unsanitary [02:04:14] and there were even syringes strewn about the property. [02:04:17] And you can see in one of those photos. [02:04:20] And now today, it sits vacant [02:04:22] and there's some neighbors who are interested [02:04:23] in purchasing it for a future, more positive use. [02:04:28] We are processing several others [02:04:31] and I hope to bring you those as part of a 2016 update. [02:04:37] Thank you. [02:04:40] Now to, I think everybody's favorite point, [02:04:43] Communications and Reports. [02:04:45] Mr. Starkey. [02:04:46] I hope everyone had a nice Thanksgiving [02:04:48] with their family and time off. [02:04:50] It's nice to get four days off in a row [02:04:52] and I know most people get that very often throughout the year. [02:04:55] And other than that, I know it's a few months out [02:04:57] but I just wanted to publicly announce [02:04:59] that we'll be re-running or running for a re-election [02:05:02] for City Council come February. [02:05:04] Great. Thank you. [02:05:07] Councilwoman. [02:05:09] Yeah. I personally can't believe that it's already December. [02:05:13] I know that, Mario, I think you should offer Marcello [02:05:17] a place in the boat parade this weekend. [02:05:19] That would be really cool. [02:05:20] Saturday night to have that conduit. [02:05:22] But this Saturday night is the 16th annual [02:05:25] River Lights Boat Parade [02:05:27] and Chairman Barry Horvath, on behalf of him and his team, [02:05:32] we invite folks to come and watch it [02:05:34] and to participate in it. [02:05:37] The captain's meeting is tomorrow night [02:05:39] at the Boulevard B finale at 6 o'clock [02:05:43] and it should be a good event this weekend. [02:05:45] I think the weather's going to cooperate [02:05:47] and they're going to try something a little different [02:05:49] by having the award ceremony afterwards at Railroad Square. [02:05:52] So we're hoping that that is successful as well. [02:05:55] Thank you. [02:05:56] Deputy Mayor. [02:05:58] Thank you, Mr. Mayor. I have a thank you card from Manny Bumanriga, [02:06:04] the outgoing executive director [02:06:06] for the Tampa Bay Regional Planning Council. [02:06:09] I'll pass this around to you. We did the proclamation. [02:06:13] I actually went to his retirement dinner [02:06:18] at the Columbia Restaurant. [02:06:19] That was a huge turnout. Great. [02:06:22] He had spent a number of years with the Regional Planning Council [02:06:27] and left them in much better state than when he started. [02:06:31] And so I just like for you guys to see that. [02:06:35] Mr. Davis, your December 17th Leadership Pasco event. [02:06:39] Unfortunately, I will not be in town. [02:06:41] I have a major customer that I'm seeing in Dallas. [02:06:44] So please pass along my thoughts that I can't be at that event. [02:06:52] Wanted to thank the Historical Society and the veterans. [02:06:57] On Saturday, I came down [02:06:59] and did the walk around the park that they had. [02:07:04] There's an additional item after that. [02:07:06] But it was interesting. [02:07:07] There were about 50 people coming out of the Historical Society [02:07:13] and then traversing over and then walking around Orange Lake. [02:07:16] And it was funny to see people ride around [02:07:20] and kind of figure out what was going on. [02:07:24] The veterans that were there that day [02:07:25] telling a few of their stories around each of the monuments [02:07:28] that had something to do with their branch of service. [02:07:32] It was a nice turnout. [02:07:33] Tough weekend to have it on. [02:07:35] But once again, that went well. [02:07:38] I see that the street crossing crossway notification at Adams [02:07:44] and the boulevard is installed. [02:07:48] Of course, I couldn't pass up the opportunity [02:07:52] to go over there and push the button [02:07:54] after I picked up my dry cleaning. [02:07:55] But it didn't engage. [02:07:57] So my question is, when will it be fully functional? [02:08:02] We're hoping that the remaining hardware will be in any day. [02:08:08] And as soon as it is, we have a team [02:08:10] that's scheduled to go ahead and install it. [02:08:13] I'd love to make sure that Mr. Orth knows about it [02:08:16] because I can't wait until the first person [02:08:18] sees those strobe lights come on [02:08:20] and try to figure out what the heck is going on. [02:08:22] But long time coming. [02:08:25] The businesses along there, the safety of the people [02:08:27] crossing with all the activity, it looks great. [02:08:31] The guys did a great job in doing the construction [02:08:34] and making the solar power and bringing it back. [02:08:37] And I saw them two or three different times [02:08:39] setting it up and waiting to do that. [02:08:42] So pleased to see that. [02:08:44] Wanted to thank BayCare for the opportunity [02:08:46] to attend the CARES Senior event here recently. [02:08:51] Very nice event, once again, at the Spartan and well done. [02:08:57] Ms. Manns, can I see a rough draft [02:09:00] of the red light camera cancelization letter [02:09:03] that will be going out right after January 1? [02:09:07] You know, I saw we repaid them tonight. [02:09:10] And I know we have to give them big time notice. [02:09:13] And that's been one of my pet peeves for a long time. [02:09:15] And I think what part of our budget [02:09:17] was to do away with that. [02:09:19] So I want to make sure that we have that letter [02:09:22] to them in plenty of time [02:09:23] so the least we do is get their attention. [02:09:28] I did look at the branding elements [02:09:30] that the mayor had mentioned about [02:09:32] and the Pasco County elements. [02:09:35] Those are very nice. [02:09:37] Obviously, they have their new phrase, [02:09:40] a Pasco open space and a Pasco vibrant place. [02:09:46] So I want to make sure, and I've asked Ms. Manns [02:09:50] to prepare a overview of the Plath Road construction [02:09:54] we just did along with the front area. [02:09:57] Because I'd like to go to the County Commission [02:09:58] and remind them and thank them, number one, [02:10:01] but also remind them that we put this in. [02:10:05] And I would think at some point we ought to have a tandem event [02:10:08] that says thank you, [02:10:09] even though we've created a raceway. [02:10:11] We have created the elements that will allow us to do that, [02:10:16] to bring people to the park and to do those things. [02:10:19] Mario, thank you for the update on the Hacienda bids. [02:10:23] I know that there's probably a few moving parts in those. [02:10:25] They never quite come in exactly as you like [02:10:28] when you're dealing with a historic building. [02:10:30] So I know you guys will work your way through that. [02:10:33] And then finally, I encourage everybody [02:10:37] to do their walk through a Sims Park. [02:10:39] I tried to do mine today. I got pulled away. [02:10:42] So because there's some elements in there [02:10:44] we need to make sure we're on point about [02:10:49] as it comes to the paver walkway and the elements [02:10:52] and being there on Saturday [02:10:54] and seeing that big white shade structure on the ground, [02:10:58] just visualizing how they were going to get it up [02:11:00] and attach it and do all those things. [02:11:03] Anticipating that and really do want to make sure [02:11:07] that we have the right kind of opening ceremony. [02:11:13] And I know I've gone back and I know I'm like a broken record, [02:11:16] but unfortunately I'm repetitive for a reason. [02:11:21] There were 3,200 signed volunteers [02:11:24] that built the original super playground. [02:11:28] And there must have been 15 editorials [02:11:31] written by the Pasco Times and Bill Stevens who's retired. [02:11:35] Be nice if he wrote a nice one for the newsletter [02:11:40] and then also we could get him to do a guest [02:11:41] one for the newspaper. [02:11:44] And there are so many people that I wrote down [02:11:46] off of press releases and stories and stuff. [02:11:49] I just really want to make sure that we've retired it. [02:11:55] I want to retire it in style. [02:11:57] I want to thank all those people [02:11:58] because it really did put it on the map. [02:12:01] And as I drove through Palatka, [02:12:04] as you come through on the other side of Palatka, [02:12:07] not downtown, they have a version of that [02:12:10] in a very big park there. [02:12:13] And as you go by it kind of gives you the visual [02:12:15] of what ours would have looked like [02:12:16] without all the oak trees and everything else. [02:12:19] But to me it's always before, during, and after the sale. [02:12:27] And this is a situation where we really need to make sure [02:12:30] that those folks understand [02:12:32] that we really appreciate what they did [02:12:34] to make this a focal point. [02:12:36] And that all we want to say thank you for all our efforts [02:12:38] then and obviously we have a lot of volunteer locations [02:12:42] that we'd love for them to sign up for moving forward. [02:12:44] Thank you, Mr. Mayor. [02:12:45] Thank you. [02:12:46] Councilman Davis. [02:12:47] I just would like to get a date as soon as possible, [02:12:50] like before Christmas, before next week [02:12:53] when we might have a grand opening there in the Sims Park [02:12:57] so we can announce it. [02:12:59] I've got a letter probably the rest of you did [02:13:01] about our announcement of when our cleanup day was, [02:13:06] you know, within the week it was. [02:13:07] So as far in advance as we can [02:13:10] so we can get these people to come [02:13:12] and get the date set up, the time set up, [02:13:15] and work on the particulars of what we're going to do later on. [02:13:20] Jeff brought up that he's running for office. [02:13:23] I haven't decided yet. [02:13:25] I'm meeting with two staff members in the next week [02:13:28] and I'll be meeting with the rest of the department heads [02:13:31] probably in the early January. [02:13:33] And that'll help me along with meeting [02:13:36] with some of the citizens and decide whether I'm going to do it. [02:13:38] Probably won't make the decision until near February. [02:13:42] Mr. Mayor, can I ask one other thing? [02:13:44] Sure. [02:13:44] On my walk around veterans with the group [02:13:48] and if Ms. Manns or Mr. Rivera or whoever is responsible, [02:13:54] can some, because I know we approved some things [02:13:56] we're going to be doing around Orange Lake, [02:13:59] can somebody capsulize that for me? [02:14:01] Because the walkway, if we finish Orange, [02:14:05] if we finish the park project, [02:14:08] there are some elements on the walkway [02:14:11] with the old pavers and some elements there [02:14:14] that really need to be looked at from a safety and risk side. [02:14:19] And I would hate to finish that and have that really nice. [02:14:22] Just as we have the extension of Sims Park going down the river, [02:14:30] that all needs to dovetail from basically Congress, [02:14:34] or excuse me, Mass Ave all the way back into Sims. [02:14:37] But around Orange Lake, [02:14:40] really need to walk that and take a really good look. [02:14:43] There's some unevenness, there's some concrete issues. [02:14:46] I didn't know if it's covered in some of the things [02:14:48] that we're doing, some of the staging, [02:14:49] because we have so many elements that we have in that phase one, [02:14:53] phase two, but there are some immediate needs on there, [02:14:56] if you could. [02:14:57] We started working on that this week. [02:15:00] notification of some areas. [02:15:02] We went ahead and took possession [02:15:04] of a lot of the pavers that the contractor has taken up [02:15:07] at Sims Park already, put those on pallets, [02:15:10] and that's what we're going to use to take [02:15:12] care of those immediate hazards.

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    Three-Minute Report: Development

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    A councilmember announced two community events: the North Bay Morton Plant's 50th anniversary holiday lights event Thursday evening, and the Main Street holidays weekend of December 11-12 including the Rotary Club Christmas street parade. Council also informally agreed not to hold a meeting on December 29th due to lack of quorum.

    • consensus:Council informally agreed not to hold a meeting on December 29th due to lack of quorum. (passed)
    • motion:Motion for adjournment. (passed)
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    [02:15:14] Mr. Mayor, I'm sorry. [02:15:16] I really would be remiss. [02:15:17] I didn't realize that we were not having a council meeting [02:15:19] this week. [02:15:20] But if I could insert two other items. [02:15:23] Part of the North Bay Morton plant's 50th anniversary, [02:15:28] they have been participating and partnering [02:15:30] with the city on several things. [02:15:31] And they are having their holiday lights [02:15:34] this Thursday evening. [02:15:36] They bring a horse-drawn wagon ride, arts and crafts, [02:15:40] refreshments, live entertainment, [02:15:42] keepsake photos, treats, and giveaways to the community. [02:15:45] And it's all free. [02:15:46] And of course, Santa himself, I believe, may be there. [02:15:51] And they light their holiday tree. [02:15:54] And then there's been so many questions in the community [02:15:56] and a lot of conversation about whether or not [02:16:00] the boat parade was taking place or even the street parade. [02:16:03] And so we want to assure people that the following weekend, [02:16:07] December 11th and 12th, is the second weekend of Main Street [02:16:12] holidays. [02:16:13] And the Parks and Rec Department, the youth advisory [02:16:18] team will be there Friday night when Santa will be there. [02:16:21] And we're bringing snow into the city. [02:16:24] And the library is also participating that weekend. [02:16:29] They will be there doing crafts and other kid-friendly things. [02:16:36] In addition, there's arts and crafts, [02:16:37] the Breakfast with Santa, the Celebrity Read to Me, [02:16:41] and then, of course, the street parade that evening. [02:16:45] So I know that people see all the commotion of what's [02:16:47] going on in the city. [02:16:48] They see the fence up. [02:16:49] And they are hard-pressed to realize that the parade is [02:16:52] going to take place. [02:16:54] So we just want to assure people that, indeed, [02:16:56] will be the Holiday Rotary Club Christmas parade. [02:16:59] Still looking for volunteers, if you're so inclined. [02:17:03] But that is something that has been taking place. [02:17:05] I think this is maybe the 38th or 39th year [02:17:07] of that street parade. [02:17:08] So I wanted to make note of that as well. [02:17:10] I'm not in favor of a meeting on the 29th. [02:17:14] Too close. [02:17:15] Too close that it's between Christmas and New Year's. [02:17:19] Mr. Pavlik? [02:17:20] Nothing this evening, Mayor. [02:17:22] Ms. Mims? [02:17:23] Nothing this evening. [02:17:27] I could go either way on the meeting on the 29th. [02:17:31] I'm probably here, but. [02:17:33] I won't be in town. [02:17:33] I will not be in town, either. [02:17:35] I think that answers your question. [02:17:36] You don't have a quorum. [02:17:37] It's been duly answered. [02:17:38] OK. [02:17:39] Takes care of that problem. [02:17:41] With that, wish you all a very good evening. [02:17:45] And see you at the vote break. [02:17:48] Move for adjournment.

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  21. 9Communications
  22. 10Adjournment