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1. 1Call to Order – Roll Call▶ 0:00
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   Pledge of Allegiance

   Pledge of Allegiance and moment of silence for servicemen and women.

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   [00:00:17] Thank you. If you could all stand, join me in the Pledge of Allegiance and remain standing for a moment of silence in honor of our servicemen and women at home and abroad. [00:00:27] I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

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   Moment of Silence

   Moment of silence observed.

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   [00:00:45] Thank you. You may be seated.

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   Approval of the October 6, 2015 Regular City Council Meeting Minutes

   approved

   Council approved the minutes from the October 6, 2015 regular City Council meeting.

   • motion:Approve the October 6, 2015 regular City Council meeting minutes. (passed)

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   [00:00:50] First item on the agenda is the approval of the October 6th regular City Council meeting minutes. [00:00:54] Move for approval. [00:00:56] Second. [00:00:57] We have a motion and a second to the maker. [00:00:58] Second. [00:01:03] Hearing none, all those in favor, please signify by saying aye. Aye. [00:01:06] Opposed, like sign. Minutes are approved.

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   Proclamation: Tampa Bay Community Development Corporation and Pasco County Community Development

   Mayor Rob Marlow presented a proclamation recognizing the Tampa Bay Community Development Corporation and Pasco County Community Development for their partnership with the city's Code Enforcement Department, which has resulted in demolition of blighted structures, construction of 21 new homes in 48 months, and rehabilitation of over 10 condemned residences. Representatives accepted, announced two more homes to be built soon, and noted an upcoming ribbon-cutting for TBCDC's relocation downtown.

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   [00:01:10] Next item is a proclamation regarding Tampa Bay Community Development Corporation and Pasco County Community Development. [00:01:16] I would ask the representatives to come join me at the podium. [00:01:26] This is a proclamation in the city of New Port Richey. [00:01:43] Whereas the Tampa Bay Community Development Corporation was incorporated in 1982 and is approved by the Department of Housing and Urban Development, HUD, Housing Counseling Agency, [00:01:53] whose mission is to promote homeownership opportunities to low and moderate income families in Pasco, Pinellas, and Hillsborough counties. [00:02:00] Whereas the Tampa Bay Community Development Corporation has partnered with the Pasco County Community Development to commit to improve the level of homeownership [00:02:10] and neighborhood revitalization within the corporate city limits of New Port Richey. [00:02:14] And whereas Tampa Bay Community Development Corporation's partnership with Pasco County Community Development and the city of New Port Richey's Code Enforcement Department [00:02:24] has resulted in the acquisition and demolition of several blighted structures and residences within the city. [00:02:30] Construction of 21 new homes in the past 48 months to date and rehabilitation of over 10 existing condemned residences. [00:02:38] And whereas Pasco County Community Development provided the funding sources to make these projects feasible. [00:02:44] And whereas all of the newly constructed and rehabilitated homes have been successfully sold to homeownership educated, [00:02:51] qualified low to moderate income level buyers. All of the homes are homesteaded and have offered stability to those areas with pride of ownership [00:02:59] and generate a positive tax base for the city. [00:03:02] Now I therefore, I Rob Marlow, Mayor of the City of New Port Richey, do hereby recognize Tampa Bay Community Development Corporation [00:03:09] and Pasco County Community Development for their efforts in improving the quality of life to the citizens and the residential neighborhoods of our city. [00:03:19] I would like to give you an opportunity to say something and please. [00:03:37] Thank you. I'm George Romagnoli, Director of the Pasco County Community Development Department. [00:03:42] Thank you for this proclamation. [00:03:45] Living in the city and working for the county, this is a great combination. [00:03:49] And Tampa Bay CDC is one of our most valuable valued partners. [00:03:53] I'm proud to announce we're about to start construction of two new homes in Missouri in the next two or three months. [00:03:58] So two new homes, two vacant lots will be built and new homeowners will be there. [00:04:02] And we are continuing that effort. [00:04:05] And one thing we hope to follow up on is I can announce that the city will be getting more demolition money from the county, [00:04:12] assuming the Board of County Commissioner approves, I have to say that, to continue that. [00:04:17] And we hope to start in a few months foreclosing on some of those demolition liens of those houses that you demolished [00:04:25] so we can put new homeowners there and continue to redevelop the city. [00:04:29] One thing I should mention that's something I need your help with is we were very fortunate over the last seven years [00:04:35] to get funding for a lot of the programs for Tampa Bay and others through the Neighborhood Stabilization Program. [00:04:42] We received over $50 million from HUD for these programs. [00:04:47] And we received that money because we're one of the highest percentage-wise of communities that had foreclosures in the country. [00:04:57] But that money is gone. [00:04:58] And so we need to work on the State Housing Initiatives Partnership Program. [00:05:02] So I hope you all contact your favorite senator and representative and encourage support for that. [00:05:08] If we got full funding for that, the county would receive over $5.5 million in funding for affordable housing. [00:05:14] So we really hope we get that funding. [00:05:16] But thank you. [00:05:17] Thank you for the proclamation. [00:05:18] And we'll hope to continue our efforts in the city. [00:05:21] Thank you. [00:05:22] Great, thank you. [00:05:23] And I understand Tampa Bay Community Development Corporation has a ribbon-cutting coming up. [00:05:30] Thank you, and I believe I sent invitations to hopefully all of you. [00:05:35] Next Tuesday at 1130 a.m., we are having a ribbon-cutting sponsored by the West Pasco Chamber of Commerce for the relocation. [00:05:45] We've been in the city for several years now, but we have relocated to the downtown in the building right opposite here, City Hall. [00:05:51] So please feel welcome to join us for that event. [00:05:53] Very good, thank you. [00:05:54] Thank you. [00:06:04] The next item on the agenda is FOXPOP.

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6. 6Vox Pop for Items Not Listed on the Agenda or Listed on Consent Agenda▶ 6:06
7. 7.a

   Purchase Payments for Council Information

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   Council approved the purchase payments for council information on a voice vote.

   • motion:Motion to approve the purchase payments for council information. (passed)

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   [00:20:23] Move for approval. [00:20:27] Thank you. [00:20:28] Second? [00:20:29] Second. [00:20:30] Any further discussion? [00:20:32] All those in favor, please signify by saying aye. [00:20:35] Aye. [00:20:36] Opposed, live sign. [00:20:37] Next item is public readings of ordinance number 2016-2062. [00:20:40] Before we start, Brian, the problem I'm having, he's having also.

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   First Reading, Ordinance No. 2016-2062: Large Group Public Feedings

   approved

   Council held first reading of Ordinance 2016-2062, which creates Section 16-3 regulating large group public feedings in city parks, requiring a permit (with a $100 non-refundable application fee), limiting permits to two per user per park per 12-month period, and establishing penalties. After public comment and discussion about cleanup responsibilities, Council directed the City Attorney to add language addressing cleanup responsibility, and approved the ordinance on first reading.

   Ord. Ordinance No. 2016-2062

   • motion:Move for approval of Ordinance 2016-2062 on first reading, amended to add language addressing cleanup responsibility. (passed)
   • direction:Council directed the City Attorney to add language addressing the responsibility of permittees to clean up after large group feedings. (passed)

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   [00:20:50] They're not loading. [00:20:51] Something to do with the connection. [00:20:52] The Wi-Fi connection in the room. [00:20:53] I just lost mine again, too. [00:20:54] Are you guys on Wi-Fi? [00:20:55] Yeah. [00:20:56] Can you get off Wi-Fi? [00:20:57] Got it on PDF. [00:20:58] If you pull it up, it would work. [00:20:59] Yeah. [00:21:00] I never use Wi-Fi in here. [00:21:01] And mine's sitting there dead as a rock, too. [00:21:02] All right. [00:21:03] You say the PDF will work, Brian? [00:21:04] Yeah. [00:21:05] Or like Jess said, if you change your connection type. [00:21:06] Yeah. [00:21:07] Go back. [00:21:08] Go back. [00:21:09] Go back. [00:21:10] Go back. [00:21:11] Go back. [00:21:12] Go back. [00:21:13] Go back. [00:21:14] Go back. [00:21:15] Go back. [00:21:16] Go back. [00:21:17] Go back. [00:21:18] Go back. [00:21:19] Go back. [00:21:20] Go back. [00:21:21] Go back. [00:21:22] Go back. [00:21:23] Yeah. [00:21:24] Go back to your setting page. [00:21:25] Do you have unlimited data or no? [00:21:26] This one? [00:21:27] Data. [00:21:28] Do you need Wi-Fi? [00:21:29] Toggle over. [00:21:30] Yeah. [00:21:31] Right down there on the left. [00:21:32] Yeah. [00:21:33] On the left. [00:21:34] One on top. [00:21:35] Turn the Wi-Fi off. [00:21:36] Go up where it says Wi-Fi. [00:21:37] Hit on it. [00:21:38] And push the green button over. [00:21:39] And it'll go to phone connection. [00:21:40] I believe. [00:21:41] Apologies. [00:21:42] Got it. [00:21:43] All right. [00:21:44] All right. [00:21:45] All right. [00:21:46] All right. [00:21:47] All right. [00:21:48] All right. [00:21:49] All right. [00:21:50] All right. [00:21:51] All right. [00:21:52] All right. [00:21:53] All right. [00:21:54] All right. [00:21:55] Got it. [00:21:56] Thank you, Bill. [00:21:57] I get extra points for that tonight. [00:22:01] I want you everybody to know. [00:22:02] You lent me a pen last week. [00:22:03] Two weeks ago. [00:22:08] First Reading Ordinance 2016-2062. [00:22:11] An Ordinance of the City of New Port Richey, Florida, amending Chapter 16, Parks and Recreation, [00:22:15] by creating new Section 16-3, Regulating Large Group Feedings in Certain Parks and Recreational [00:22:21] Facilities Owned or Controlled by the City, establishing a Prohibition on Large Group [00:22:26] Feeding in Public Park Facilities without a Large Group Feeding Permit, limiting permits [00:22:31] to two per user per park in a 12-month period, establishing a Prohibition for failing to [00:22:37] display the permit to a law enforcement officer on demand, and providing for appeal from denial [00:22:42] of a Large Group Feeding Permit providing for severability in an effective date. [00:22:46] I'm going to open this up for public comment. [00:22:51] I wish to address Council on this matter. [00:22:53] Please give us your name and address for the record. [00:22:57] My name is Paul Black, 5844 Madison Street is where I live, and I just want to say that [00:23:11] I appreciate the intention of those who want to feed the hungry and assist those that are [00:23:18] homeless. [00:23:19] I personally feel that it's not a very good idea to use parks for that purpose. [00:23:25] I believe that there are other locations that would probably be more appropriate for taking [00:23:30] care of the hungry and the homeless in that situation. [00:23:33] I think you could invite vagrancy and danger to those that want to use the parks, given [00:23:39] the type of people that are among the homeless that could show up. [00:23:43] Young mothers with babies in their strollers that want to go to the park might feel a little [00:23:48] scared and intimidated to be there at that time. [00:23:52] I also feel that there could be a lot of loopholes for those that want to have many feedings [00:23:58] by just simply creating other organizations coming from themselves or from their spouse [00:24:03] or one of their children or whatever. [00:24:06] They might try to get past the idea of only having to do two of them, or be limited to [00:24:13] two so they could have more. [00:24:16] That's all I have to say there. [00:24:17] Thank you. [00:24:18] Anyone else? [00:24:21] I don't think anyone else has come forward. [00:24:22] I'm going to bring it back to Council. [00:24:23] Move for approval. [00:24:24] Second. [00:24:25] For the maker. [00:24:26] I agree with Mr. Black, 100%, but this is the best we can do, I think, at this time. [00:24:31] So, I'm happy with it. [00:24:33] Deputy Mayor, I believe you were the second. [00:24:35] Yes, I was, Mr. Mayor. [00:24:37] Yeah, we need to know what's going on in our parks, and this is one of the steps to do [00:24:42] that. [00:24:44] And over and above that is, we all have compassion, we all feel for the people, but in the same [00:24:50] token, inviting them into the city, and in some cases, not being able to know they're [00:24:56] going to be there on a regular basis or when they are, leads us to do a lot of responding [00:25:02] when we have other things on our agenda those days. [00:25:05] Thank you, Mr. Mayor. [00:25:06] Thank you. [00:25:07] Councilwoman Duvall-Thomas? [00:25:08] Well, yeah, I just have a question to ask the Attorney. [00:25:13] So, the point is that we can't suggest that our parks cannot be available for large groups, [00:25:20] period? [00:25:21] No, we're unable to eliminate them completely. [00:25:26] So, this is something that has been tested by the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals out of [00:25:31] Atlanta. [00:25:32] Orlando has a very similar ordinance, and it was found to be in compliance with the [00:25:36] Constitution. [00:25:37] Thank you. [00:25:38] So, in your opinion, this is the best we can do? [00:25:40] Yes. [00:25:41] Can we limit on how many we can have in a year? [00:25:44] Yes. [00:25:45] It almost identically mirrors the Orlando statute, and they did limit it to 2 per group [00:25:53] per year. [00:25:54] But can we limit 12 a year across the board? [00:25:59] I don't think you could, because you would be eliminating other groups or organizations [00:26:05] from the opportunity to present these feedings in the park. [00:26:10] So, you can limit it for an organization, but I don't think you can limit it across [00:26:14] the board. [00:26:15] Say we can only allow a total of 12 per year. [00:26:18] Chief, currently, if I may, there's only a limited number of organizations that try [00:26:23] to do this in their parks, correct? [00:26:25] At this point, but it has fluctuated to where there was a pretty serious concentration for [00:26:30] a while. [00:26:31] And depending on weather and other circumstances, there's highs and lows of frequency. [00:26:38] My understanding, we had an out-of-town group that was coming in on a pretty much weekly [00:26:42] basis doing it for a while? [00:26:44] Yes, sir. [00:26:45] You're correct. [00:26:46] I have another question. [00:26:48] I didn't really see anything in this ordinance about cleaning up. [00:26:51] I mean, they give us $100, we give them $100 back, and, you know, who's cleaning this up? [00:26:58] I mean, it doesn't really seem like there's a backup plan here. [00:27:02] There's, you know, this kind of a question. [00:27:04] Who's cleaning this up afterwards, after they leave? [00:27:07] Are they leaving garbage behind after they do that? [00:27:09] Well, yeah. [00:27:10] I mean, you know, it's still going to take our time. [00:27:12] Even if there's trash cans, this will still take quite a bit of time in our labor, you [00:27:16] know, our staff labor. [00:27:18] So, I was interested in your thoughts on that. [00:27:23] In response to Councilman Davis's question, it would be handled just like any other permit [00:27:28] or rental would be of a park facility, and the cleanup would be tended to by Parks and [00:27:34] Recreation staff. [00:27:37] Don't we have a set meeting and we decide what it's going to cost them? [00:27:42] These are different events, kind of like CHIP's event. [00:27:46] This specific ordinance would not be seen under the set ordinance. [00:27:53] The only time that I think that it would be is if it were a much higher number than 15 [00:27:59] as the ordinance regulates. [00:28:03] I think maybe the question that Councilman Davis is raising is a legitimate one. [00:28:07] Do we need some sort of security deposit that they get back after they clean the place up? [00:28:12] I'm reading it a non-refundable application fee of $100 to cover the administrative costs [00:28:18] for processing the permit paid to the city by the person applying for the permit at the [00:28:23] time of filing of application. [00:28:25] You are collecting $100 to go through that approval process, from what I can tell. [00:28:39] Obviously, there's a penalty clause, but the question is, is there an administrative cost [00:28:45] for cleanup that you're able to assess back? [00:28:49] Is that the question? [00:28:54] Also, the question, I thought that if there's an assembly of at least 50 people, [00:29:01] or if we were closing streets, that that kind of kicked off the whole special event permit. [00:29:06] Then, within that permit is the request of who's providing the trash, [00:29:12] who's providing the portalettes, etc. [00:29:14] Why would we not be addressing an assembly of folks that are going to be feeding food? [00:29:22] It just seems like it's... [00:29:23] I could go ahead and add a section that specifically deals with the responsibility [00:29:27] for any associated trash that may be generated. [00:29:32] In order for that to be effective, I think we would need to make sure that we had somebody [00:29:36] from Parks and Rec or something go there immediately afterwards to determine whether or not... [00:29:42] That's some of the $100 administrative IP. [00:29:45] Would that be Parks and Recreation checking up after? [00:29:49] Yeah, if that would cover the cost of sending somebody out there. [00:29:54] I assume that it would. [00:29:56] You could always go general littering... [00:30:00] could apply if people were just leaving the place a mess. I guess that's my [00:30:04] question and to touch on what Judy just said is at these events these feeding [00:30:09] the homeless events I have not seen one in the park but I guess you know for [00:30:14] what I'm hearing we it's been kind of a regular thing if there's been more than [00:30:18] 50 people they should have applied for a special permit then correct aside from [00:30:23] this so they just haven't been doing that okay and yeah I mean I agree there [00:30:29] should be some kind of penalty whether it's whether it's this or if I have a [00:30:31] birthday party with 30 kids in the park and I leave the picnic area trashed I [00:30:35] mean you pick up after yourself so I think whether it's just in this [00:30:38] ordinance or in general there should be a penalty if someone has a gathering or [00:30:42] any kind of party in the in the park and doesn't clean them up clean up after [00:30:45] themselves whether it's just a littering finder birthday party do they have a [00:30:48] deposit typically what we do with a birthday party it's it's handled as a [00:30:54] reservation they pay for that reservation fee we typically do not [00:30:58] charge a deposit there during regular staff hours such as this would be when [00:31:02] there's already staff on duty and all we've done before the birthday parties [00:31:06] if they really left it a mess then we would reach out to them and it might [00:31:10] jeopardize them making a reservation again in the future if but it really [00:31:14] hasn't been that much of a problem [00:31:17] little guidance chief the littering hasn't been our problem it's really been [00:31:23] the intimidation of the crew and all those factors but they have been [00:31:29] cleaning up yeah and I've not heard the first complaint about that well we can [00:31:40] amend it at a point to if we need to yeah I mean or I mean I could add some [00:31:44] language in there regarding the responsibility of the groups to clean [00:31:48] up but I think that's that's already out there in other avenues but we can't [00:31:52] amend this if we find that something's not working we can tweak this down the [00:31:56] road or I can go ahead and add language now to address the responsibility of [00:32:00] cleanup why don't we add that just to start with that okay to the maker in the [00:32:04] second yes sir yeah that's fine [00:32:11] any further discussion all those in favor please signify by saying aye opposed [00:32:18] like sign next item is first reading of ordinance 2016 2063 an ordinance of the

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9. 8.b

   First Reading, Ordinance No. 2016-2063: Roadside Memorials Ordinance

   tabled

   Council held a first reading and public hearing on Ordinance 2016-2063, which would establish a roadside memorial marker program in residential rights-of-way. Multiple residents spoke against allowing such memorials, citing intrusiveness, grief impacts on neighbors, liability, and the 5-foot sign size. After extensive discussion, council gave direction to staff to redraft the ordinance to prohibit roadside memorials (with allowance for a brief organic grieving period of about a week), and to address removal of existing memorials.

   Ord. Ordinance No. 2016-2063

   • direction:Council gave direction to staff to redraft the ordinance to prohibit roadside memorials (allowing only a brief organic grieving period of approximately one week) and to address removal of existing memorials. (none)

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   [00:32:28] city of New Port Richey Florida creating section 13.32 point zero zero roadway [00:32:33] memorial markers to chapter 13 article 1 signs establishing a roadside memorial [00:32:38] marker program in the public right away providing for severability and providing [00:32:42] an effective date you open this up for public comment [00:32:47] my name is Cecilia Mahone I live at 5900 Madison Street and I've lived there [00:33:12] about 20 years I ask that you consider some time limits on the people who have [00:33:22] memorials outside in public property I find it's difficult for families losing [00:33:30] someone but then it's difficult for someone who dies in a home or a hospital [00:33:35] as well the fact that we have a public memorial seems to remove the grief [00:33:42] process from the privacy of their homes into the public I was there I was in my [00:33:51] home and unable to get out when an accident occurred on Madison in [00:33:56] Tennessee on April 9th of 2015 that memorial is still there I don't know the [00:34:06] person I sympathize with their family but I think it is time that that memorial [00:34:13] come down I bet that you understand that even at Trinity funeral home where we [00:34:23] bury our loved ones a memorial is taken down it is limited it is time limited [00:34:31] and it is limited in size and what you can put there and I paid big money for a [00:34:39] little tiny square it's limited I can put flowers there but in 30 days those [00:34:44] flowers come out I can put a picture there but it comes down I ask that our [00:34:57] roadways not become a distraction right now we have I've looked around in the [00:35:05] last couple of days there are memorials all over the city there are people I [00:35:11] don't know there's some there's one on live on State Road 54 it's been there [00:35:17] several years there were three children killed out there on 54 and altered it [00:35:25] and old 54 so there's people all around who memorize those people and I feel [00:35:31] badly for them but it's a public roadway it shouldn't be used for private display [00:35:39] thank you thank you very much anyone else wish to address us on this issue [00:35:44] my name is Paul black again 5844 Madison Street I have mixed feelings about [00:36:02] this ordinance first off the ordinance I feel is better than nothing at all [00:36:08] but I would rather see this ordinance not pass and another ordinance follow up [00:36:15] to be followed up didn't created that would prohibit all roadside memorial [00:36:21] markers the reason I feel this way first off let's just say that we had a drunk [00:36:31] driver now this this this ordinance will allow a memorial marker for anybody [00:36:38] including someone who was intoxicated so say a drunk driver comes a driver is [00:36:43] drunk and he kills someone in an accident and you know they're both [00:36:47] killed so the both of the families on both sides you know they want to erect [00:36:51] markers and so now you've got two markers together in this basically in [00:36:57] the same location and how would that make you feel if the person that was [00:37:02] responsible for for slaying your loved one irresponsibly had their marker right [00:37:08] next to your family member I just don't know that it is the best idea for city [00:37:14] government to get into this and furthermore if we do just decide to if [00:37:20] the City Council does pass this ordinance a year is a long time but I'm [00:37:27] also concerned about the cost okay let's say it's you're talking $50 so the end [00:37:33] you're going to take responsibility not only for the construction but the [00:37:35] erection and the maintenance so let's say after a couple of months the the [00:37:40] marker gets knocked down it gets vandalized or worse yet stolen who's [00:37:45] going to eat that cost is the city going to eat it and then pass it to the [00:37:48] taxpayers who's going to who's going to bear that responsibility I do you go [00:37:52] back and you tell the family that paid the $50 well it's gone you pay another [00:37:57] 50 or you know to be able to continue with your year I'm that part I'm unclear [00:38:02] on how that's going to be handled so I would like that addressed but I just [00:38:06] think it would be better if we leave memorials at the cemeteries and keep [00:38:12] them off the roadways as is Cecilia Martin as excuse me Cecilia Mahone just [00:38:19] elaborated thank you thank you anyone else [00:38:26] you [00:38:39] my name is Jackie Colorado and I live at 5843 Madison and I have not only [00:38:48] witnessed the accident that happened there on in April I've also witnessed [00:38:55] the memorial and while I'm really sorry that people get hurt and people think [00:39:01] they need memorials it's very intrusive to those of us that live where they [00:39:09] place these memorials even now I can open my front window and there are [00:39:17] people walking by looking in the yard still for I don't know what going to [00:39:25] this memorial for this young man and I'm sure this happens all over it I I have [00:39:31] to ask you to please reconsider this that that the grieving process I fully [00:39:39] understand but do we need to make this a public situation that's what we have [00:39:45] churches for that's what we have cemeteries for I don't believe those [00:39:50] sorts of things need to be on our city streets it's very intrusive to everybody [00:39:57] there and every time somebody comes by and puts the flowers and whatever brings [00:40:07] difficult memories back to the people who have to live there and we're not [00:40:12] considering that so I hope when you make this ordinance that you do consider the [00:40:19] other side of this and the appropriateness do we really need to [00:40:24] memorialize these people on the streets isn't this a private thing just as if [00:40:30] one of our family members died do we need to put a memorial on the street for [00:40:35] that or do we take this private and leave it in the cemeteries and the [00:40:39] churches and within the family I think it all needs to be considered in the [00:40:45] same way thank you anyone else [00:40:52] right there my name is Tom Finn I live at 5949 Tennessee and some of my [00:41:05] comments will echo those that we've just heard the people that lost their I'm [00:41:14] going to address this although you know obviously I'm talking about any memorial [00:41:18] anyways it's just the personal experience the personal connection to [00:41:25] this memorial that I'm going to talk about that particular one you know the [00:41:33] people that lost their son and their brother visit the memorial occasionally [00:41:39] I go past that memorial three or four times a day I was woken up by this [00:41:45] horrific crash and when I went out my door there was a lady screaming find the [00:41:52] bodies find the bodies they're in the bushes find the bodies it was absolutely [00:42:00] hair raising it is never in my life going to go away and I hear that three [00:42:05] four five times a day that's 700 times since the accident happened you know I [00:42:13] had an apartment that people moved out of the next day after this I had [00:42:19] somebody come in to look at the apartment when the people were coming [00:42:23] across the street and threatening me because I asked them not to put things [00:42:27] on my property and the police had to come it was pretty embarrassing when [00:42:32] someone's coming to rent your house I lost over a thousand dollars in rent [00:42:37] with an empty apartment over this you know when I first I've talked to some of [00:42:44] you individually about it and I was told that one of the idea one of the ideas [00:42:49] that was raised was to put a little bronze marker into the sidewalk I'm [00:42:54] hearing from Paul that we're talking about a cross type raised marker and [00:42:59] that's what's so obtrusive if it was in the sidewalk a bronze marker or [00:43:04] something I I wouldn't have a problem with that it's not something I would see [00:43:09] but when there's little plastic whirly wind things that are spinning away like [00:43:16] you know you're at Mardi Gras someplace it's hard to ignore it and you know the [00:43:22] idea of a year Wow I think three months is plenty of time you know to do this I [00:43:31] think constitutionally we might have to do it additionally I'm not sure if the [00:43:36] council is aware that there was a lady in Hudson who a few weeks ago in the [00:43:41] Suncoast news they wrote a story how she put an online petition for the county [00:43:45] and in 24 hours had over a thousand signatures people don't want this outside [00:43:51] their door and the people that did the one that we've been talking about don't [00:43:55] live in New Port Richey they come here from 15 miles away the idea that the [00:44:02] council or the city people are going to taxpayers are going to pay for these [00:44:06] memorials to be put in and maintained I'm telling you from the plaque that I [00:44:12] put up at the Recreation Center those are hundreds of dollars apiece and not [00:44:16] $50 so please make the changes that make it that reduce the impact on those of us [00:44:23] that have to live around these things every single minute of every single day [00:44:28] thank you thank you mr. Finn anyone else thank you former councilman [00:44:39] my name is Brittany Howard and I live on Illinois Avenue 5830 and I would just [00:44:46] like to say that I don't think a memorial is the worst thing I've been [00:44:51] looking at my neighbors with a cross with Christmas lights on their front [00:44:54] yard for three years now so in the grand scheme of things that are an eyesore for [00:44:59] me [00:45:00] I don't think a memorial is. [00:45:02] And I just wanted to say that I don't think a little bit [00:45:05] of compassion is the worst thing in the world. [00:45:17] And I'm not the sister of whoever had the memorial [00:45:19] for whoever said that. [00:45:21] I don't know them at all. [00:45:24] Thank you. [00:45:24] Anyone else? [00:45:27] Seeing no one else come forward, I'll bring it back to council. [00:45:30] I'd just make a couple of clarifications [00:45:31] here based on the comments. [00:45:33] This is a tough one. [00:45:34] Like I've talked to Mr. Black about this, [00:45:36] people mourn in different ways. [00:45:38] I personally, if I lost a loved one or a family member, [00:45:42] I would not want a roadside memorial to remember him by. [00:45:44] That's my opinion. [00:45:45] That's how I would mourn. [00:45:46] There's a lot of people that obviously do. [00:45:49] Just a couple, whether we approve this or don't approve [00:45:52] this, a couple of things. [00:45:54] This sign, in the ordinance, there's [00:45:56] no supplemental decoration ornaments allowed. [00:46:00] You can't come and put the spinny things on [00:46:01] or flowers or any additional decorations [00:46:04] other than the sign. [00:46:06] Also, further down under Section D, [00:46:08] once again, if this is approved, memorial markers [00:46:11] will only be installed in residential areas [00:46:14] where fatalities occurred with the written [00:46:16] permission of the resident whose property is abutting [00:46:20] the residential right of way where the memorials be placed. [00:46:22] So if this happened in front of your house [00:46:24] and you don't want the memorial there [00:46:25] and you don't sign off on it, it's not going to happen. [00:46:28] So that's already in this ordinance, as well, [00:46:30] just to point out. [00:46:31] And ma'am, I know exactly where you're talking about it, [00:46:33] County Road 54 and Old 54. [00:46:35] Just remember, we're just talking about the city limits. [00:46:38] There's a lot of New Port Richey that's [00:46:39] called New Port Richey that's unincorporated, but this is. [00:46:42] Perfect. [00:46:43] This is just an example. [00:46:45] Yes, ma'am. [00:46:45] I understand that as well. [00:46:47] One thing I personally was taken back by a bit, the sign, [00:46:50] and it's just a black and white drawing. [00:46:52] We don't have any actual visual signs [00:46:53] of ones that are in place. [00:46:56] Judy was able to show me one that does have flowers on it. [00:46:59] In my opinion, it's quite large. [00:47:00] Whether we approve this or not, I mean, it's a five foot sign. [00:47:04] And to fit that between, that's how I'm reading it, [00:47:08] five foot metal, the linear post, [00:47:09] the marker will be mounted at a 42 inch from the ground [00:47:13] to the top of the marker, which is just under four feet. [00:47:16] So it's a good size sign. [00:47:17] I was kind of visualizing something like this, [00:47:20] like you see on, like, Alligator Alley and State Right of Ways. [00:47:24] Unless I'm reading this wrong. [00:47:26] It's a pretty. [00:47:26] Council Member Starkey, that was not the intent at all. [00:47:29] And either I or your attorney found that exhibit, [00:47:32] and it was meant to be yay high. [00:47:35] Some of the things you already see out. [00:47:37] Well, that's not what's in the ordinance. [00:47:39] We will have to correct the size. [00:47:40] It's pretty much what the state, it's the state one. [00:47:42] Yeah. [00:47:43] So what size are we talking about there, then? [00:47:48] Well, I mean, it can be whatever size you choose. [00:47:52] But the way it's in there, it is a five foot metal side. [00:47:54] But a portion of that is going to be underground. [00:47:56] So only from grade, 42 inches. [00:48:00] Which is just, what, three and a half feet, right? [00:48:02] Yes. [00:48:02] 42 and a half. [00:48:04] Yeah. [00:48:05] So that's what would be above the ground. [00:48:07] The five feet is just the overall length. [00:48:08] And a portion of that is going to be. [00:48:11] That's still pretty big. [00:48:12] I still personally think that's too big. [00:48:15] And please, I understand everyone's point of view. [00:48:18] I mean, I don't, I'm not going to say understand [00:48:20] everyone's point of view. [00:48:22] I appreciate everyone's right to grieve. [00:48:25] But once again, our city limits is a very small area. [00:48:28] And it's made up of mostly residential homes. [00:48:30] And I personally wouldn't want a memorial. [00:48:32] I would not sign off on this having a memorial on my property [00:48:34] or my right of way at the house where I live in. [00:48:37] That's my personal opinion. [00:48:38] But I'll let my colleagues talk. [00:48:40] I like having these open discussions on matters [00:48:42] like this, where we're able to speak to each other [00:48:44] and get each other's feelings and opinions. [00:48:47] Yeah. [00:48:49] When this first came up, well, first of all, [00:48:51] I want to say the same thing. [00:48:54] This is not, you know, we're not heartless. [00:48:56] We are compassionate. [00:48:59] You know, speak for myself. [00:49:01] If something like this were to happen, [00:49:03] I would be grieving along with the folks that [00:49:06] lost their loved ones. [00:49:07] However, looking at what is proposed [00:49:13] and seeing what the state allows, [00:49:16] that's a whole different thing. [00:49:18] That's, you know, on a highway. [00:49:20] It's not in a residential neighborhood. [00:49:23] My personal opinion is it's almost garish. [00:49:26] It's too much for a residential community. [00:49:29] If anything at all, I would agree [00:49:33] to have something that's embedded [00:49:35] on the curb of the street, which a prime example is [00:49:41] one that is currently in the city [00:49:43] right now on the corner of Grand and Missouri. [00:49:47] And that would be pretty much the only thing [00:49:50] that I would agree to. [00:49:51] Because I also believe no amount of putting a memorial out, [00:50:00] it's not going to change anything. [00:50:01] And I think within the city limits, [00:50:05] especially within a residential community, [00:50:08] anything like this would be just, [00:50:11] I don't know what other word to use, [00:50:13] but to say that it would be too garish. [00:50:14] And I think that also the loss of a loved one [00:50:24] is not diminished by some type of very visible memorial. [00:50:37] Whatever it is that would be accomplished by that, [00:50:43] I just am not in agreement with. [00:50:45] I think that however someone grieves, [00:50:49] it does not need to be something [00:50:53] that the entire community needs to see something like that. [00:50:58] So the only thing that I would agree to [00:51:00] would be something that would be embedded in the ground, [00:51:03] again, on the curb of wherever, something like that. [00:51:07] Deputy Mayor. [00:51:11] These are some of these footballs [00:51:14] that you get periodically. [00:51:17] And I have to agree with Mr. Bell-Thomas. [00:51:21] I mean, I'm a little, I see these things [00:51:27] and I understand the grief process and all of those. [00:51:30] Some become extremely extravagant, [00:51:33] become places where people put benches [00:51:36] and do all these things. [00:51:36] And I know that this ordinance is written this way. [00:51:41] And then when you start to break down [00:51:45] every element of the accident or the death [00:51:51] or whatever happened, then you have [00:51:53] to start asking the question, do we [00:51:57] have memorials in our own public right-of-ways for people [00:52:00] that were violating the law, you know, [00:52:03] 100-mile-an-hour on Madison Road in Madison? [00:52:10] Whatever it was, to me, then we get into the point of, yeah, [00:52:15] we're going to do it for this one, [00:52:16] but we're not going to do it for that one. [00:52:19] I thought it was, from Mr. Bell-Thomas [00:52:22] and whoever offered it, a small memorial plaque that [00:52:27] designates that area. [00:52:29] I mean, I'm OK with that. [00:52:32] This year-long thing, and then you take it out. [00:52:36] You know, we own the public right-of-way. [00:52:39] We have a lot of things that go on in and around that. [00:52:42] If somebody trips over that memorial, we're liable. [00:52:46] We're the people that are on the front line with it. [00:52:48] So I appreciate the effort. [00:52:52] I believe we need to visit this a little bit further. [00:53:00] And if we are going to do it, it has [00:53:02] to be a much more confined time frame, [00:53:07] because I feel like owners of property [00:53:10] should have peaceful enjoyment of that property that they own. [00:53:16] And they shouldn't be reminded of what [00:53:18] happened in front of their house over and over again [00:53:23] for an extended period of time, because there was an effort [00:53:27] to make to do cleanup and all those other kind of things [00:53:30] there. [00:53:30] And that's traumatic, and you own it. [00:53:34] And to me, that gives me great pause. [00:53:38] I want to be respectful, and I want to offer something, [00:53:42] but I don't want to make it to the point [00:53:44] that it also creates a situation for the homeowners and stuff [00:53:53] that makes them feel uncomfortable about being [00:53:56] in New Port Richey. [00:53:57] I want to be respectful, but I also [00:54:00] understand that we own the right-of-way, [00:54:02] and that those folks that were adjacent to this [00:54:04] are affected by it more than we can ever know, [00:54:08] because we weren't woken in the middle of night. [00:54:11] And I also have a real, it gives me a thought, [00:54:17] if someone's violating the law, and we recognize that, [00:54:25] I have a hard time, I'll memorialize it [00:54:30] in something I can't see as to be respectful, [00:54:33] but I can't, is that saying it's OK? [00:54:37] And it just doesn't sit well with me on those levels. [00:54:45] So as I said, it's one of these things [00:54:47] that comes before us periodically, [00:54:49] where we have to take property and people and ourselves [00:54:52] and those elements. [00:54:54] And once again, I wouldn't have a roadside memorial [00:54:56] if something happened to one of my family members. [00:54:59] I want to go through the process and do it in a different way. [00:55:02] And in some ways, I just want to make sure [00:55:04] that we're respectful, but we also [00:55:07] understand where all the other liabilities may be [00:55:11] and the effect that it has in our own neighborhoods. [00:55:14] Thank you, sir. [00:55:15] Councilman Davis. [00:55:18] I lost a brother to a drunk driver. [00:55:22] I immoralized him at a cemetery. [00:55:25] And I think our society does that for all our loved ones. [00:55:29] We set up cemeteries. [00:55:32] That's where you go, and that's where you visit your people, [00:55:34] and that's where you leave flowers, [00:55:36] and that's where you, you know. [00:55:39] Now, my problem that I ran into this [00:55:43] was how long do we allow the flowers and twirly things [00:55:49] on the particular corner until we put the sign up? [00:55:52] And then we can't put the sign up. [00:55:54] How long do we leave the sign up for a year? [00:55:56] So did I decide a month later to put the sign up? [00:55:59] Did I decide two months later to put the sign up? [00:56:01] So the beginning part of a memorial, [00:56:05] we didn't address that in this ordinance. [00:56:07] So that needs to be addressed, number one. [00:56:10] There are survey markers that are brass that are [00:56:15] about three inches in diameter. [00:56:17] And somebody wanted to put that there for a year, [00:56:19] and then we send it off to the family. [00:56:21] I probably have no problem with that. [00:56:23] But the people that live in the area where this accident happened, [00:56:27] they are the ones that saw someone else's loved one pass. [00:56:32] The person, the family members, they [00:56:34] didn't see the person pass. [00:56:36] In my case, my brother actually passed at the hospital. [00:56:40] But these people actually saw the person [00:56:44] pass in front of their own eyes while they're [00:56:45] trying to deal with the accident. [00:56:47] And they need to move on, too. [00:56:48] So we need to address how long the twirly things, [00:56:54] and the flowers, and the motorcycle helmet, [00:56:57] or whatever they left on the corner, how long that's there. [00:57:01] And then we change it to a small memorial, [00:57:06] like I said, a survey marker, which [00:57:07] is three inches in diameter, and let that stay for a year, [00:57:10] then pass it on to the family. [00:57:12] That's about as far as I'd go. [00:57:13] We need to address that first, whether it's [00:57:16] a month, whether it's six weeks, something [00:57:19] like that, why the family decides what they want to do. [00:57:23] Thank you, Councilman. [00:57:24] Just from my perspective, I wouldn't [00:57:29] have a problem with a blanket prohibition on these things. [00:57:31] I think they're ugly. [00:57:32] They're intrusive in the neighborhoods. [00:57:35] I don't think we need them. [00:57:37] We definitely don't need them for a year. [00:57:38] And we definitely don't need them five feet tall. [00:57:41] Mr. Vermeer, can we give staff direction, then, too, [00:57:45] to address existing memorials? [00:57:47] Not just what happens from here on out, [00:57:49] but the current memorials we have to address. [00:57:51] Certainly. [00:57:54] Mr. Publick, is there any reason we can't just [00:57:56] prohibit these things entirely? [00:57:58] No, not at all. [00:58:04] Pleasure of the Council. [00:58:06] I would make a motion that we prohibit [00:58:12] the roadside memorials that, specific to anything [00:58:20] that organically comes about. [00:58:22] And by organic, I mean the spontaneous expression [00:58:26] of grief, I would say no more than a week. [00:58:30] And the reason I say that is, having had loved ones [00:58:35] pass at a cemetery, and you have your memorial service there, [00:58:40] the flowers that are left, usually within a week's time, [00:58:43] if that, I just would not want to see it longer than that. [00:58:49] So I would say that anything that are, [00:58:51] so the ordinance would be that we are prohibiting [00:58:54] roadside memorials of any type, and any that are just [00:58:59] organically spontaneous, that no more than five days [00:59:04] from the day that they're first there. [00:59:06] We have a second? [00:59:08] I'll give them two weeks, about two weeks. [00:59:13] Are you talking like flowers, teddy bears? [00:59:14] Yeah, exactly. [00:59:15] Because they might not be, because of family, location, [00:59:18] family, they might not even be buried [00:59:20] within a week or five days. [00:59:22] But would you consider two weeks? [00:59:26] At the most. [00:59:28] And again, because of the, how that will. [00:59:30] I'll second it for two weeks. [00:59:32] We have a motion and a second. [00:59:34] To the maker, any further? [00:59:37] No, but does this then also address, [00:59:41] so if we're banning any, and then we're [00:59:43] just saying that the flowers that are spontaneous [00:59:46] would be after two weeks? [00:59:49] Staff's authorize to grab them. [00:59:50] Two weeks from the date of the accident. [00:59:52] From the date, well, I would say yes. [00:59:56] Because if we say two weeks from the date [00:59:58] that they first show, then it would be the honor. [01:00:00] So, yes, I would think that would be... [01:00:02] Yeah, two weeks, Mr. Davis. [01:00:04] Yeah, two weeks from the action. [01:00:06] Any more from the second? [01:00:08] No, that's fine. [01:00:10] Deputy Mayor? [01:00:11] I'm fine, Mr. Mayor. [01:00:13] I still have a question. [01:00:15] With your motion, [01:00:17] would we want to tie the existing memorials into that? [01:00:21] Are we going to deal with that separately? [01:00:22] How are we going to... [01:00:23] Well, my intention is to come back with an entire new ordinance [01:00:27] dealing with banning them out and out [01:00:29] and trying to somehow address these spontaneous memorials [01:00:33] that go up immediately following an accident. [01:00:37] But the question came back, [01:00:39] is we have existing memorials in the city now. [01:00:44] We don't want to say that those are in any way grandfathered in. [01:00:48] We need to notify, do some notification [01:00:51] that they are going to be removed [01:00:55] so that people can return to pick up whatever item is there [01:00:59] and give it a time. [01:01:01] I think that... [01:01:02] Absolutely. [01:01:03] Is that kind of where you were headed with that? [01:01:05] Exactly where I was headed. [01:01:06] We need to give them a time frame once we contact them, [01:01:08] whether it's a month, three months. [01:01:10] I would say within two weeks. [01:01:12] I would say that if we contact them, [01:01:14] that it would be within two weeks that we're notifying them. [01:01:17] Okay, I'll look into how to address some of those [01:01:20] because a lot of these are 100 different people. [01:01:24] Yeah, how do we know who to notify, number one? [01:01:26] Likely what will be done is the site will be posted [01:01:30] and be posted probably for a week or so [01:01:32] and give a time certain when the area is supposed to be cleaned up. [01:01:35] I think that's the only way you can address it, really. [01:01:37] Yeah, because I really don't want to have to have staff [01:01:40] trying to do research as to what accident happened, [01:01:42] which parties were involved. [01:01:44] I mean, I think the best is just to go to the site [01:01:47] and actually post it as we post code enforcement. [01:01:49] That's the reason we pay you to logistically work those elements out. [01:01:53] I'm serious because we could sit up here [01:01:56] and we could make it tougher. [01:02:01] So if you would do that, that would make it easier in the process. [01:02:05] Certainly. [01:02:06] We have a motion on the floor. [01:02:08] If there's no further discussion, all those in favor, [01:02:10] please signify by saying aye. [01:02:11] Aye. [01:02:12] Opposed, live sign. [01:02:14] Mr. Pavlich, we'll be looking forward to you coming back [01:02:17] for a heavily revised second reading.

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10. 8.c

    Second Reading, Ordinance No. 2016-2065: Open Container Ordinance

    approved

    Council held second reading on Ordinance 2016-2065 amending the open container ordinance. After discussion, an addition was incorporated to exempt properties holding a state of Florida alcoholic beverage license from the ordinance, with suggested language that 'in the event that the business has a state alcohol license, that license shall prevail.'

    Ord. Ordinance No. 2016-2065

    • motion:Motion to approve Ordinance 2016-2065 on second reading with addition exempting properties holding a state of Florida alcoholic beverage license. (passed)

    📍Bridge Street📍Grand Boulevard📍Railroad Square🏢7-Eleven🏢Adon and Jilly's🏢Boulevard Beef and Ale🏢Coral Reef🏢Estella's🏢First Down🏢Fitzgerald's🏢Jilly's🏢Johnny Grit's🏢Magruder's Real Estate🏢Marathon Station🏢Village Pub👤Bill Phillips👤Chopper Davis👤Debbie👤Jeff Starkey👤Jerry Seaver👤Rob Marlowe#4-COP license#Chapter 3 Alcoholic Beverages Section 3-5B#Ordinance 2016-2065#SRX license#chronic nuisance ordinance

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    [01:02:21] Next item is second reading on Ordinance 2016-2065. [01:02:27] An Ordinance of the City of New Port Richey, Florida, [01:02:29] amending Chapter 3, Alcoholic Beverages, Section 3-5B, [01:02:33] possession, consumption, and sale of alcoholic beverages [01:02:36] providing for severability and an effective date. [01:02:40] Open this up for public comment. [01:02:45] Seeing no one come forward, bring it back to Council. [01:02:49] I'd like to discuss it first. [01:02:52] Make a motion for discussion. [01:02:55] Move for approval. [01:02:56] Second. [01:02:57] For purpose of discussion. [01:03:00] Mr. Davis. [01:03:01] I would like one more addition to this because I dealt with this with Adon and Jilly's. [01:03:10] And that was the problem that I originally dealt with. [01:03:13] And when Jerry Seaver came here, [01:03:16] that he corrected and got the ordinance that we're living with now, [01:03:20] whatever, 25 years ago. [01:03:23] I would like to add that this does not interfere with someone [01:03:28] that has a liquor license on their property, [01:03:31] a state Florida liquor license. [01:03:33] So if the people want to sit out in the back of my Jilly's [01:03:38] and have a couple beers, I have the license to do that. [01:03:43] I'm legal to do that. [01:03:45] In a sense that if the trailer parked behind Jilly's didn't like that particular attitude that day [01:03:51] and decided to call it, then this ordinance, he would have to go over and enforce this. [01:03:56] So as long as they have a Florida alcohol liquor license and it can be added in here, [01:04:01] then they're exempt. [01:04:03] The property is exempt. [01:04:05] The entire property? [01:04:07] Sure. [01:04:08] You're licensed by the Florida Alcoholic and Beverage to use your whole property. [01:04:15] I'm sorry. [01:04:18] I'm trying to understand. [01:04:21] Am I talking outside, right to the very edge? [01:04:26] For example, let's say the coral reef. [01:04:30] Let's use that. [01:04:31] I need an example. [01:04:33] Okay, we could use Jilly's. [01:04:34] Well, I remember how far Jilly's goes back from street to street. [01:04:39] So basically, if I were drinking inside Jilly's, I could, [01:04:46] because you have a Florida liquor law, a liquor license, [01:04:49] I could go all the way to the very edge of your property there, have my beer, [01:04:54] be in your parking lot, and the police couldn't come. [01:05:06] If we were a public nuisance, it's a different story. [01:05:08] I understand. [01:05:09] But if we're drinking on the property, yes, we can. [01:05:14] For example, Jeff. [01:05:15] Oh, I'm sorry. [01:05:16] No, you go ahead. [01:05:17] Well, it sounds like you're suggesting that patrons of Jilly's, [01:05:22] but what about people that wander in that property? [01:05:24] I think that's the thing that we're wanting to address. [01:05:27] Well, that's what I'm saying. [01:05:29] If that person comes onto the property with their own alcohol, [01:05:34] it's actually in violation of your license to have somebody else's. [01:05:39] You can't bring your own alcohol to the park. [01:05:42] How would a police officer know that from just looking at, you know, [01:05:45] driving past them, there's people there? [01:05:48] I mean, if he's having, you know, did you get it? [01:05:50] He can stop and ask and say, did you buy that inside? [01:05:53] Or if he's a nuisance, then he can go ahead and deal with the nuisance. [01:05:58] Yeah, I mean, I don't think we're passing this so police officers can bust the person [01:06:03] that's having a beer inside the Village Pub and has a phone call [01:06:07] and goes outside to talk to the person on the phone. [01:06:09] I understand that. [01:06:10] I'm saying that's where you're coming from. [01:06:12] No, I'm saying that's exactly right. [01:06:14] But by this ordinance, you're allowing that to happen. [01:06:17] Without your addition, too. [01:06:18] Yeah, without my addition. [01:06:19] And I don't think people are going to go. [01:06:21] I mean, I think I'm with you on this. [01:06:23] I don't think people are going to just grab a 12-pack and go sit in the Jolly's Park line and drink it. [01:06:26] You know, a great example, and the Chief kind of brought me up to speak [01:06:29] because I wasn't here last meeting. [01:06:30] I was driving on Grand Boulevard in front of the Marathon Station. [01:06:33] There was three not-so-great-looking citizens sitting on the park bench [01:06:38] in front of the Marathon Station on Boulevard, [01:06:41] and one of them had a big old 24-ounce thing of beer. [01:06:44] And I walked in and spoke to the Chief and Debbie were waiting on me. [01:06:47] We were meeting for lunch this week. [01:06:49] And I said, so is he in violation right now? [01:06:51] He's like, yeah, he's on public property. [01:06:53] But if he takes five steps back into that parking lot, which is semi-private, semi-public, [01:06:59] and the owner of the business doesn't call or say anything, it's currently perfectly legal. [01:07:05] And I think, correct me if I'm wrong, that's why we're doing this. [01:07:08] That's what we're trying to address. [01:07:09] It's basically kind of public intoxication, people buying their own alcohol [01:07:15] and just walking all over the city with it. [01:07:17] Correct or incorrect? [01:07:20] Can I offer a comment? [01:07:21] I think there's room for a compromise on this. [01:07:24] And I'm actually agreeing with you, Chopper, amazingly so. [01:07:28] Can I get that on tape? [01:07:30] But with the alcohol, with the businesses that are licensed, [01:07:35] we can deal with a nuisance there, and we do. [01:07:38] We've had some pretty violent encounters with some of the events [01:07:41] that have happened at a couple of the local bars, and it was a result of drinking. [01:07:45] Part of the cause of it was the drinking outside, and we do deal with that. [01:07:49] But we also have a chronic nuisance ordinance that we can deal with that over time. [01:07:55] But the ones you're talking about, Councilman Starkey, that's our ongoing problem. [01:08:03] The individuals that are in front of these strip centers [01:08:07] and those types of places out here near Magruder's where they do the feeding, [01:08:13] Magruder's Real Estate, where they're doing the feeding in the place next door, [01:08:17] and they'll go over to Magruder's property, which is a public access parking lot there, [01:08:22] and the parking lot of that strip center, these individuals will just drink, [01:08:26] leave their refuse there, urinate on the property, and leave a mess. [01:08:31] And we're constantly dealing with those complaints. [01:08:34] Let me, if I can, and Mr. Davis or Mr. Public can help me with this, [01:08:40] there's a difference, I think, with the sort of alcoholic beverage license [01:08:47] that Jilly's or Carl Reef has and the type of license that a gas station normally has. [01:08:55] I'll go ahead and guess. [01:08:57] I'm going to use three different types. [01:09:01] There's a floor COP, which is what Jilly's or the Carl Reef has, [01:09:07] and that has to do with a license they could actually sell package to leave. [01:09:12] So there's a technique. [01:09:13] They could walk out, open their beer and drink it and drive off with it [01:09:18] because they have a package license. [01:09:22] The next step is Estella's or even Johnny Grit's. [01:09:29] You have to have so many seats, it's called the SRX license. [01:09:32] They have to have so many seats and they can sell alcohol, [01:09:36] but it cannot leave the premises. [01:09:38] And that's the Boulevard Beef and Ale is another example. [01:09:40] You can't buy something in Boulevard Beef and Ale [01:09:43] and take it out and go to Railroad Square when there's a party going on at Railroad Square. [01:09:47] You can out of Fitzgerald's and you can out of the First Down. [01:09:52] Because they've got the other type of license. [01:09:53] They've got the floor COP license, but they don't have the SRX license. [01:09:56] Then you've got the 7-Eleven where they have the package store, but it's only beer and wine. [01:10:03] So if we, and I don't know that much about Jilly's because I don't tend to go down Bridge Street, [01:10:09] but Carl Reef is a prime example that comes to mind for me. [01:10:15] Particularly when they've got a party, [01:10:18] they will block off their entire parking lot so that the people can go out and party outside. [01:10:28] So long as they're not causing a disturbance. [01:10:32] Yeah, that's why I want that wording put in there. [01:10:35] If there's a license, that premise has a license, then they're exempt from this. [01:10:39] Can you specify the license type so that we don't open up, because you said it's a 4-COP. [01:10:46] They know they have a 4-COP that they can self-delete, and SRX license, they know who. [01:10:52] They'd be in violation of the beverage laws if they didn't. [01:10:56] What Chopper's saying is accurate. [01:10:58] They'd be violating a beverage law if they didn't stay within the restrictions of their license limitations. [01:11:04] Right. [01:11:06] And then you just make a call to the beverage department. [01:11:09] They go down and they grab a beer or a drink and walk out. [01:11:14] I'm okay with the addition because, obviously, we need to tweak it. [01:11:18] We need to get out and let it work. [01:11:21] We need to give you the authorization to take care of that other problem, which is covered in the ordinance, [01:11:27] and we can add this addition to it. [01:11:32] And, obviously, it's just like anything else. [01:11:34] You need to see how it's going to work in the field. [01:11:37] But right now, you have that limitation. [01:11:40] So I'm okay with that addition. [01:11:42] Is the second okay with that as well? [01:11:44] No, I'm totally okay. [01:11:45] I think it's still addressing the issue that we have. [01:11:48] Like if you own the Marathon or the place right across the street here, [01:11:52] you can't just sell someone a beer and they can't drink it in the parking lot. [01:11:55] It's a totally separate license. [01:11:57] So I think we're still good. [01:11:59] With the addition, we're still targeting what we're trying to target. [01:12:01] So I'm absolutely fine with it. [01:12:03] So you got the first, the second, and you got the addition. [01:12:05] Councilman? [01:12:06] Yes. [01:12:07] Anything? [01:12:08] Councilman Davis, I presume you're okay with this? [01:12:10] We might have a question here. [01:12:11] Well, I've got some suggested language to add in there. [01:12:14] Something along the lines, [01:12:15] in the event that the business has a state alcohol license, that license shall prevail.

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11. 8.d

    Second Reading, Ordinance 2016-2066: Chapter 5, Boats And Waterways, Section 5-44(5)

    approved

    Council passed second reading of Ordinance 2016-2066, amending Chapter 5 (Boats and Waterways), Section 5-44(5)(B) regarding docks attached to city-owned or public park property. The change addresses an insurance issue: the city had been requiring dock owners at Riverfront Park to list the city as additional insured, but insurers will not do so without ownership of the docks.

    Ord. Ordinance 2016-2066

    • motion:Motion to approve second reading of Ordinance 2016-2066 amending Chapter 5, Boats and Waterways, Section 5-44(5)(B). (passed)

    📍Riverfront Park👤Unknown Councilman#Chapter 5 Boats and Waterways#Docks Attached to City-Owned Property or Public Park Property#Ordinance 2016-2066#Section 5-44(5)(B)

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    [01:12:19] I think that addresses your concerns. [01:12:24] I'll accept that language. [01:12:26] That's good for the second. [01:12:27] Yes, sir. [01:12:28] There's no further discussion. [01:12:30] All those in favor, please signify by saying aye. [01:12:32] Aye. [01:12:33] Opposed, flag sign. [01:12:35] Good. [01:12:36] We've got something I think we can live with. [01:12:39] Second reading of Ordinance Number 2016-2066. [01:12:44] An Ordinance of the City of New Port Richey, Florida, [01:12:46] amending Chapter 5, Boats and Waterways, Section 5-445B, [01:12:51] Docks Attached to City-Owned Property or Public Park Property, [01:12:54] providing for severability and an effective date. [01:12:57] Open this up for public comment. [01:13:00] Move for approval. [01:13:01] Seeing no one come back, I'll bring it back to Council. [01:13:03] Move for approval. [01:13:04] We have a motion and a second to the maker. [01:13:05] Nothing. [01:13:06] To the second. [01:13:07] I've never been complimented more for doing something like this in the last two weeks. [01:13:13] And I didn't recognize that there was an issue, [01:13:16] but all the folks were telling me by doing this what it allowed them to be able to do [01:13:23] with their insurance companies and a whole series of things. [01:13:25] So it was nice to be complimented over and over by the folks that had this situation [01:13:31] that most of us don't have. [01:13:34] So I appreciate being the second. [01:13:37] Councilman. [01:13:38] I'll just give everyone clarification. [01:13:39] I wasn't here last week just from an insurance standpoint. [01:13:42] The city was asking for people that put docks in at the Riverfront Park [01:13:45] to have the city list as additional insured on their insurance policy. [01:13:49] The city doesn't own the docks, so no insurance company is willing to do so. [01:13:52] I revisited some applications that were approved in the last three or four years ago, [01:13:56] and I called the underwriters from those companies, [01:13:58] and they basically said it slipped through the cracks. [01:14:00] They never should have approved them. [01:14:02] So an insurance company will not list an entity as additional insured without ownership. [01:14:06] So that's why we're doing this. [01:14:08] Councilman. [01:14:09] Yes. [01:14:10] I think it just recognizes reality. [01:14:14] If there's no further discussion, all those in favor, please signify by saying aye. [01:14:17] Aye. [01:14:18] Opposed, light sign. [01:14:20] Mr. Mayor, could I ask for just a break because we're moving into the next part of this?

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12. 9.a

    License Agreement for Dock on City Property - 6752 Grand Boulevard - DeBolt Property

    approved

    Council approved a license agreement allowing the DeBolt property owner to install a dock on city property across Grand Boulevard from 6752 Grand Boulevard, using one of the knee wall openings in the city's riverwalk designed for this purpose. The agreement is subject to compliance with section 5-44 of the code with amended insurance requirements.

    • motion:Motion to approve the license agreement for a dock on city property across from 6752 Grand Boulevard (DeBolt property). (passed)

    📍6752 Grand Boulevard👤Davis👤DeBolt👤Spears#Riverwalk knee wall dock openings#Section 5-44 of city code

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    [01:14:24] That may take us a little bit. [01:14:25] Let's take about a 10-minute break, and we'll be back just before 830. [01:14:31] We are going to go into the business items. [01:14:35] The first item is the license agreement for a Dockland City property, 6752 Grand Boulevard. [01:14:41] Is it a BOLT property? [01:14:43] Yes, it is. [01:14:44] Mrs. Spears. [01:14:47] Let me show you two slides so you know where we're talking about. [01:14:51] The property is on the east side of Grand Boulevard, north of Ohio. [01:14:56] You can see it's outlined in red. [01:14:58] And the applicant is on the east side of Grand Boulevard. [01:15:00] would like to install a dock on the riverside of the property which is across from Grand Boulevard. [01:15:07] And this is a picture of what the house looks like on the property. It's currently under some [01:15:11] renovations according to the property owner, so it's looking pretty nice. And when you look across [01:15:16] Grand Boulevard to the west, you see that the city has installed a very attractive riverwalk [01:15:23] park with these knee wall openings that allow for docks on public property. This is the view as you [01:15:31] get closer to the river. You can see that opening which again will lead toward a future dock. And [01:15:37] you can see to the north as well as to the south that the city has already allowed these in many [01:15:44] other locations along the river. So in this case, the applicant wants to construct a dock in that [01:15:50] knee wall area and to do so requires city council approval of this license agreement that's before [01:15:56] you. It is subject to compliance with section 5-44 of the code and as amended tonight, the insurance [01:16:04] requirement has changed. So the applicant is here tonight in case you have any questions. [01:16:10] Thank you. Open it up for public comment. [01:16:13] Seeing no one come forward, I'm going to bring it back to council. Where in relation to the [01:16:17] Tyrannosaurus is this? A little north. Just north of it? I'd move for approval. Second. Motion to [01:16:26] second to the maker. Yeah, just for clarity, I know the picture showed two-tone painting on the [01:16:32] front. It's completely repainted now so there's no issues with that because I was going to ask [01:16:39] if that was an architectural feature that I missed, but it was like that a couple of days ago because [01:16:44] I walked that site because I wanted to make sure as the river runs through New Port Richey, [01:16:52] how the river bends at that point and just wanted to make sure clarity of how far the dock was [01:16:58] going to have to be out because those are some shallow areas, but that's the way that the river [01:17:04] walk was designed for those cutouts and to make that palatable for the property owner that owns [01:17:12] and traverses over. So that's the reason I was in favor of this agreement. [01:17:20] For the second. No, I just want to thank Mr. Bolt for your patience while we address this issue. [01:17:24] It took a long time. It took longer than I expected. You know it. You've been wonderful [01:17:28] and very, very patient and it's not the first house that she's bought and renovated. She's [01:17:32] making New Port Richey a nicer place, one house by one house, and they do a great job with the [01:17:37] renovations in it. So it's already looking much better than that photo. [01:17:43] Councilwoman? No, I'm not a voter, but I'm acquiesced to my colleagues and I [01:17:49] too agree. I just love the choice of colors that you've chosen for that house. [01:17:53] I need help, so I'm going to ask you for it. Thank you. Thanks. [01:17:58] The Deputy Mayor and I were talking about honeydew lists and painting projects [01:18:02] during the break, so I can relate to what you're going through. [01:18:06] Councilman Davis? Nothing. [01:18:09] There's no further discussion. All those in favor, please signify by saying aye. [01:18:13] Aye. [01:18:14] Opposed, like sign. Enjoy your dock.

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13. 9.b

    Cultural Affairs Committee Annual Report and City-Sponsored Special Events Review

    discussed

    The Cultural Affairs Committee Chair Brittany Howard presented the committee's annual report and rankings of city-sponsored special event applications. Council received and filed the report, with discussion emphasizing support for Hollywood of the East film festival, concerns about the August timing and high cost of the Seussical event, and a desire to review events for community return on investment.

    • direction:Council received and filed the Cultural Affairs Committee's recommendation and rankings of special events. (passed)

    📍Hacienda📍Railroad Square📍Sims Park🏢Red Apple🏢Richie Suncoast Theater👤Brittany Howard👤DeBell Thomas👤Marlow👤Morrow👤Phillips👤Smallwood👤Smith#Cody Man Triathlon#EcoFest#Hollywood of the East Film Festival#KFS#Night in the Tropics#Seussical

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    [01:18:18] Next item is Cultural Affairs Committee Annual Report and City Sponsored Special Events Review. [01:18:24] Hello. Brittany Howard, Chair for the Cultural Affairs Committee. [01:18:39] This year we've had a lot of change in the committee, so it's been hard to accomplish a [01:18:43] whole lot. We've just had members that have left, new members. I think we've just gotten two new [01:18:48] members in the last two meetings. This year for, we changed the ranking a little bit on how we did [01:18:56] it and tried to make it more specific to the area and less about tourism and more about what we [01:19:00] thought had the best impact for the community. On the ranking, the one thing we really wanted to [01:19:09] stress is that Ritchie Suncoast Theater, it did not rank high by the standards, but we feel it's [01:19:15] it's something important, and it might not impact a big group of people, but it's very [01:19:21] important to the kids that it does impact. So while it didn't rank high, we still feel like [01:19:27] it's something that should be supported if possible, and we think it's important for [01:19:31] the kids who really love it and are passionate about it. [01:19:35] The other one we really are all for is Hollywood of the East. It was presented last year as well, [01:19:44] and I think at the time there were just some changes going on with different event licensing, [01:19:49] and that may have been what prevented it, but that's one that we all feel is it's unique. It's [01:19:56] not something that you can go to Dunedin or St. Pete like you can for a holiday parade. It was [01:20:02] something that is specific to New Port Richey and a really unique event, we felt. [01:20:08] And then you all have a copy of the rankings. I think the rest of them, we pretty much [01:20:12] stand behind how we ranked them. [01:20:18] For the Seussical, I think that some maybe quotes should be looked at because they are asking for [01:20:27] significantly more than any of the other events, but we felt something like that would have a good [01:20:33] draw because it is popular. Adults who remember it from when they were kids will like it. Children [01:20:40] will appreciate it. [01:20:50] That's all I have to say on the actual rankings. So unless there's any questions on that, [01:20:53] the other thing that we're really trying to do is we have a couple ideas for things that we would [01:20:59] like to see happen, and our plan for this year is to work with departments or outside entities that [01:21:06] may be interested in hosting. As we're an advisory committee, it's not really our place to [01:21:10] put them on, but we would like to see some things, and Red Apple had actually reached out to us [01:21:17] about maybe doing an art show in the park where they could have a fundraiser. So those are things [01:21:22] that we're kind of trying to work with them on and facilitate for them, getting them in contact [01:21:26] with the right people and hopefully bringing some more cultural events such as art shows or maybe [01:21:34] around the holidays, something that is more than just Christmas, that is maybe even an educational [01:21:42] event on some other cultures and celebrations. [01:21:49] Thank you. Any questions or comments from the public? Bring it back to council. [01:21:57] Do we need a motion, or what do we need, Mr. Mayor? Are we just looking for insights or opinions? [01:22:03] Just receive and file the recommendation of the Cultural Affairs Commission. [01:22:07] My comments are that I think Hollywood of the East, the film festival thing, is something that's [01:22:15] New Port Richey's history, and it needs to be picked up like a baton in a race, and it really [01:22:23] needs to be done in such a way that it begins to differentiate us from any other place in the [01:22:30] Tampa Bay area, because this is how we got our beginning, and we're investing money in the [01:22:38] Hacienda. We're doing all these things to bring back our tradition, and with that, that one ranks [01:22:46] very well for me. I just think it needs to be done very well. The only concern that I have about the [01:22:52] Seussical, love the concept, I hate the time of the year. August to me, and Ms. DeBell Thomas, I'm not [01:23:04] going to put words in her mouth, but I've got to tell you, in Florida, as much as I like to have stuff [01:23:10] going on, I call it chamber of commerce weather when I'm talking to people that work in my company across [01:23:17] the country, especially up in the Northeast, and I tell them it's like it was this morning all year [01:23:24] around, and we know that starting in July, going to the early part of October, we run into two big [01:23:32] obstacles, the heat, the setup, the way you wear out your volunteers, and then you've got to play Russian [01:23:42] roulette with the weather, with the rain, and to me, that's the quickest way for people to look at things and say [01:23:51] it's a failure because you didn't have people show when really the concept is right, and to me, I think you, and [01:24:02] especially if you're looking for those kind of dollars, that's the best way to put yourself with the big target on [01:24:09] you for if it doesn't come off right, but if it does, you're good that year, but the next year when it doesn't, then [01:24:16] automatically somebody says I would much rather see weekend or things back to back, and my own other suggestion, two [01:24:27] things, one is I'm surprised Mr. Smallwood's not still here wanting us to get on this Cody man triathlon that he wants [01:24:35] us all on, but over and above that is we just had an event on Railroad Square last Friday night, and I really do think there's [01:24:43] some real impact to having that more focal point in downtown. I love being in Sims Park in a lot of ways, but I also like to [01:24:54] drive business in the downtown core, so those are kind of my thoughts, but I believe that especially the Hollywood of the [01:25:01] East really needs to be something that just needs to jump off the page. It's a no-brainer, so it must be easy for me. Thank you. [01:25:09] And I would concur with the Deputy Mayor, having been race director for the triathlon for a number of years, the time frame [01:25:17] you're talking about for Seussical, Russian Roulette is a very good description of it. [01:25:23] I truthfully agree. That's how we received it on the application is the date that they wanted. My birthday is the day before [01:25:32] this, and there's a reason I am never in Florida on my birthday, and the heat is that reason. [01:25:38] Enough said. Any other comments? [01:25:42] Well I have a question. I guess I'm a little confused. Are we agreeing to these dollar amounts? Are we agreeing to these [01:25:51] things? So we're just saying good job that you're bringing this to us? [01:25:58] This is basically our advisement of how we ranked the events, but like I said with the Seussical, we did feel that for the amount [01:26:08] that they're asking that there would need to be some quotes, and we would need to really verify that that is what they would have to [01:26:17] have to get it done, because it did seem high. The other thing that was discussed this year that we didn't really have on the [01:26:25] application is, aside from what will it do for downtown, there's nothing really that's about the value. So the dollar amount [01:26:33] versus what it's bringing in. And in this case, it's asking for so much more than everything else, and it is only one day. [01:26:41] So I do think the dollar amount is on the high side, and I think that we all felt that way. But without really being able to do the [01:26:50] research, I can't say what they could do it for. [01:26:53] Yeah, I guess the phrase that you're probably looking for is the return on the investment. And to Mr. Marlow's point about the [01:27:02] Cody Man Triathlon, I think there was a little confusion on the part of the community as to what exactly the city was asking. I know that it [01:27:12] was very specific, but it said new events only. So I think that was part of why they didn't suggest anything. [01:27:23] I guess on the other thing, so we put out the call for new events. These four came to us. The Cultural Affairs Committee then viewed them [01:27:34] and ranked them for us so that if we were wanting to, if they were to come back then and say this is what we want, then we would have some [01:27:42] starting point because we can look at your rankings. Is that kind of what you? [01:27:46] And basically last year there was an event that we didn't feel was, we just didn't feel like it would be the ideal event for this community. And in [01:27:56] those cases we would say that maybe we don't think that this event should receive this money. So in this case, the four that came in we were [01:28:06] supportive of. And I do think some changes could be made, especially with Seussical, but overall we felt like these events were unique and [01:28:16] something a little bit different and not just your run of the mill, you can go anywhere and see this. [01:28:22] I'm surprised the night in the tropics is not on here. [01:28:26] Is this just, you basically just prioritized the events slated for next year based on the cultural impact that you think will have on the city? [01:28:37] Yes. Is that kind of the gist of what you've done? [01:28:39] There's guidelines that we basically follow and then we, as a committee, everyone goes through, ranks them, and then we. [01:28:45] Just an opinion, right? It's just your opinion, basically, the Cultural Affairs Committee opinion based on rankings and how it's going to affect [01:28:52] the approach to culture. We could sit here and talk about each event individually all night long, but that's basically why you're here and what you're doing. [01:28:58] Overall, this is what we're saying we supported, and our main thing was just that we really wanted to stress the workshop we felt was important, even though it ranked low. [01:29:05] Okay. [01:29:06] And just one other question. Ms. Smith, how many events do we, or take place in the city? [01:29:15] I don't have those exact totals with me, but it's usually in the neighborhood of 20 or more a year. [01:29:24] We do get new ones that come in and we have some that go away for a year or so and then decide to come back. [01:29:30] Like EcoFest is one of the lists that we haven't had, I believe, the last two years. [01:29:34] We haven't heard from them, but they could, you know, want to come back again. [01:29:38] I could get you that exact figure if you'd like. [01:29:41] No, I was just curious to know what. [01:29:43] Just real quick, as a council and as a city, I mean, I'll talk about this a little bit more in communications, [01:29:48] but I think we need to review each event after it's completed and look at the impact it's had on the city. [01:29:53] I, for one, am over just having the same event, just putting it on just because we had it last year. [01:30:00] We can step up, especially with the new park and what I'm hoping it's going to look like. [01:30:05] We're on the fence about some certain components in the park still, but when this park's done, [01:30:11] this is our time as a city and everyone involved in the city and event planning to really step [01:30:16] it up. [01:30:17] I'm over just nothing against KFS by any means or any other event, but just throwing a bunch [01:30:22] of free stuff out there that anybody that lives in Pasco County or surrounding areas [01:30:26] can come downtown for and they're not vested in our city. [01:30:30] We need to look for events that are going to help our community, the people that live [01:30:33] in our community, and the businesses in our community, and it's time, I think, with the [01:30:36] timing of what we're doing downtown and with Sims Park, for all these event planners to [01:30:41] step it up. [01:30:43] These events could be much, much better, in my opinion, than they have been in years [01:30:46] past, and I'm not pointing fingers at anybody, but I'm going to get into a little bit more [01:30:50] communications based on an article Mayor Morrow put on his website that I agree with 100%, [01:30:56] but just stress that to these event coordinators, we have a brand new park, and this is the [01:31:01] time to separate yourselves, just like with the Hollywood East Film Festival, I agree [01:31:05] with Councilman Phillips 100%, this is the first time you're doing it. [01:31:09] If you do it right, the word's going to get out. [01:31:11] I just feel it's crucial for the city to make sure that these events that we're approving [01:31:16] are helping the city. [01:31:19] I just feel like in the last year, I've taken my kids down to some of these events at Sims [01:31:22] Park, and we've got bouncy houses set up in the middle of the dirt fields, really? [01:31:28] Kids run around barefoot. [01:31:31] We can do better as a city, and our event coordinators can do better, and I think it's [01:31:34] time to portray that and relay that message, so when we get this park done, the events [01:31:39] we do decide to put in the park and surrounding areas are what they should be. [01:31:43] That's all I have. [01:31:44] Not to get too deep, but I just had to get off my chair. [01:31:46] I agree, too, and one of the things we've struggled with is our roll states that were [01:31:51] basically just an advisory committee, so the concern is always, are we stepping outside [01:31:56] of our guidelines of what we are able to do? [01:32:00] Is it something where we're allowed to contact, because as it stands now, we get the applications, [01:32:05] we review them, we rank them. [01:32:07] Should we be in more contact with the people submitting them, or is that something where [01:32:11] that's, because we're not employees of the city, is that outside of what we are permitted [01:32:15] to be doing? [01:32:17] That's something that we run into is that it basically says all we do is advise and [01:32:22] help with the creation of new events, so I think maybe we could use a better understanding [01:32:28] on what we can do and what is stepping outside of the boundaries. [01:32:32] Fair enough. [01:32:33] I can work with them. [01:32:35] Perfect. [01:32:36] Thank you. [01:32:37] Any other comments or questions? [01:32:38] I'd just like to take back to your committee that we appreciate their time in the city [01:32:42] and we need some guidance and we'll help you if you'll help us. [01:32:46] Appreciate it. [01:32:47] Thank you very much. [01:32:48] Very much. [01:32:49] Thank you. [01:32:50] Thank you. [01:32:51] Next item is Madison Street Node Bridges Emergency Rehab Project.

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    Madison Street Bridge Nodes - Emergency Rehabilitation Project

    approved

    Council approved a proposal from Stable Soils of Florida Inc. not to exceed $75,600 for emergency rehabilitation of the four nodes (circular overlooks) at the Madison Street Bridge corners, addressing soil erosion and shifting using polyurethane injection. Funding comes from Penny for Pasco. Council members expressed frustration about the cost of maintaining the aesthetic features and asked for a visual rendering in the Friday report.

    • motion:Motion to approve the proposal from Stable Soils of Florida Inc. not to exceed $75,600 for emergency rehabilitation of the Madison Street Bridge nodes. (passed)

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    [01:32:55] Mr. Rivera will be presenting this agenda item. [01:32:58] Thank you, Mayor and Council. [01:33:00] This item for Council to consider is the approval of the attached proposal from Stable Soils [01:33:04] of Florida Incorporated in the amount not to exceed $75,600 for the emergency rehabilitation [01:33:12] of the Madison Street Bridge nodes or overlooks, including a 2001 reclaimed system expansion [01:33:20] project or the construction of four nodes on all four corners of the Madison Street [01:33:25] Bridge. [01:33:26] Now, these nodes are freestanding, similar to a seawall without tiebacks, and what we [01:33:33] have found out over time with inspecting them is that the soil is unstable and it's created [01:33:41] some movement with those nodes, and so what I wanted to do was show you this slide here [01:33:48] so that you kind of could get an idea of what the engineer and the company is trying to [01:33:54] do. [01:33:55] Basically, if you can imagine this being the node, it's shifted. [01:34:00] We would say that the one on the east corner has the largest gap in it, and we're talking [01:34:07] less than a sixteenth of an inch, but the fact is, is we've had some erosion issues [01:34:12] coming up in between here where the sidewalk and the bridge meet in between the node, and [01:34:18] then we've also had some erosion happening down here where the tide comes in and out, [01:34:25] and so the proposal correction is to take and bore some half-inch borings down to the [01:34:32] base, inject polyurethane material that will harden up, come in between the cracks, stabilize [01:34:41] the soil that's all behind here, and actually make that soil almost like a concrete or a [01:34:49] cement type of material to where there is no movement at all. [01:34:55] Once we've done that and we move up to this top portion, then there'll be a different [01:35:01] type of material, almost similar to what you do when you go buy a home decor or something [01:35:06] like that to get that foam that fills in the gap, except for this is commercial material [01:35:12] that will actually fill that gap, expand, pick up the top of the existing sidewalk that's [01:35:20] there, and then we can just do some cap refinishing of the sidewalk and restore it. [01:35:26] The funding for this is identified as penny-for-PASCO dollars, and approval of the proposal is recommended. [01:35:34] Open this up for comment from the public. [01:35:37] Seeing no one come forward, bring it back to Council. [01:35:41] Move for approval for discussion. [01:35:43] Do we have a motion? [01:35:45] Seconded. [01:35:46] Seconded. [01:35:47] Thank you. [01:35:48] What's the practical need for the nodes? [01:35:50] Is it aesthetics? [01:35:51] Is it a place for somebody to stand on the Madison Street Bridge and look up and down [01:35:56] the river? [01:35:57] I'm trying, I guess what I'm doing is I'm going back, I'm taking a step back in time [01:36:03] and to say, who thought we needed them, what's the practicality of them, and it's not like [01:36:13] you're on the Main Street Bridge and you're, I guess the constituency and the people are [01:36:23] kids that are going back and forth from school on those sidewalks, so what's the practical [01:36:30] use for the nodes, or am I identifying something that's over and above what they were designed [01:36:38] for? [01:36:39] Purely aesthetics, to give an expansion of the streetscape areas that previous councils [01:36:47] had looked and wanted and wanted to expand out that way, so that was one of staff's recommendation, [01:36:56] architect's recommendation to fulfill the expansion of the streetscape. [01:37:01] I have one word, wow, and number two, the second thing is, now it's become a maintenance [01:37:06] issue that's going to cost me, not to exceed the $75,000, and to me it looks like a process [01:37:14] that you do, or some of it, leveling the concrete and all that, that's the new state of the [01:37:19] art elements, very much similar to when people have sinkholes or some of that other material, [01:37:27] so basically we built something that was for aesthetic appeal, and now because of nature [01:37:34] and defending it's turf, because of the waves and all that, and now we've got $75,000 that [01:37:45] we could have used from Penny for Pasco somewhere else, because otherwise these things are going [01:37:49] to fall off, I'm just making sure I understand the rest, am I there? [01:37:58] Is the one on the southeast in worse shape than the other three? [01:38:02] Yes sir. [01:38:03] Yeah, it's got the orange barrier stuff up now. [01:38:07] Well, they've got them on all of them. [01:38:09] The one on the southeast, I remember when the bridge was built, it has a, what do they call it, [01:38:17] not a, it's, there's water coming up from the bottom, what is that called, it's not a well, [01:38:24] it's a, no, well not an intrusion is the word, but it, no, no, it's something really. [01:38:33] You're all helping me out. [01:38:36] You know, it's, well the water's coming up from the aquifer, but what do we got going [01:38:40] on at Wikiwachi? [01:38:41] Spring. [01:38:42] Spring, there's the magic word. [01:38:43] Hey, okay. [01:38:44] Hey, who's the winner in that one, who gets the, there's a spring in that southeast corner, [01:38:53] and I think that, I wonder if that might be some of the problem with that one on the [01:38:57] southeast corner. [01:38:58] There was a spring there. [01:38:59] It possibly could, and I know that the technology that we're proposing to use wasn't available [01:39:04] back then during the construction, so we feel pretty confident that this will eliminate. [01:39:10] Second. [01:39:11] Well, my apologies, but I am a really a visual person, and I love that you've shown us that [01:39:17] picture, but I cannot imagine what you're talking about on our bridge. [01:39:21] I wish you had a picture of our bridge, and then you could do your little green thing [01:39:25] around there and say, this is what we're talking about, because I'm sorry, I just don't understand. [01:39:29] I agree. [01:39:30] I'm having a hard time. [01:39:31] Yeah. [01:39:32] Because we're both talking about just aesthetics, like pleasing to the eye, that looks like [01:39:34] it's holding, it looks like a pillar holding the bridge up. [01:39:36] I just wanted to give you an example. [01:39:40] Basically, the nodes are circular overlooks that are on all four corners. [01:39:46] Circular overlooks, they come out like this. [01:39:47] As you're walking out, or as you're walking down the sidewalk, you can stop, or you can [01:39:52] go out onto a round platform, almost like in a castle. [01:39:56] Like a little visual, like a little lookout. [01:39:59] Probably what are they, 10 feet in diameter? [01:40:02] Correct. [01:40:03] Is this imminent, that we need to do this right this minute, or would we have time for [01:40:08] you to pull up the picture of it and just superimpose what you're ... [01:40:12] He's trying to get Google Earth right now so he can pull it up for us. [01:40:17] Like the bridge is going to fall in the water? [01:40:18] Well, that's what I'm saying. [01:40:19] I mean, I don't want children walking across something that's going to collapse. [01:40:23] I don't think that's what we're talking, but you're saying that this needs to be dealt [01:40:27] with. [01:40:28] It needs to be dealt with. [01:40:29] Right. [01:40:30] Well, again, my question would be, I would like to ... The only reason I'm saying that [01:40:33] is because I remember when my husband was on council, and there was a conversation about [01:40:38] what they were going to be having a nice little wall on the long main street, and then it [01:40:43] became the little, what people fondly called the coffins on the bridge. [01:40:48] So I know there's the concept, and then there's the visual. [01:40:51] So I would like to see an absolute concrete picture of what we're suggesting is going [01:40:57] to be on that bridge. [01:40:58] I hope that's not too much. [01:41:04] We're not adding anything to the bridge, it was repairing the ... [01:41:07] No, sir. [01:41:08] We're just repairing it, and we're stopping the erosion problem, the shifting of the soil [01:41:13] that's behind ... [01:41:14] Yeah, but you're calling it nodes. [01:41:15] It's a block. [01:41:16] It's a block. [01:41:17] It's a node or an overlook. [01:41:18] It's something that protrudes out, in this case, a bridge or a wall. [01:41:23] Thank you for educating me. [01:41:25] So we'd like to see what it's going to look like. [01:41:27] Let's skip right in a moment. [01:41:28] It's going to be temperamental here. [01:41:29] Okay. [01:41:30] All right. [01:41:31] Well, you can, I guess, Ms. Manns, you're going to have to put the node look in the ... [01:41:35] I will put it in the Friday report. [01:41:37] In your Friday report. [01:41:38] That'll work. [01:41:39] But also what's happening is, is what happens to seawalls and stuff when you've got the [01:41:45] tides and the water banging up. [01:41:47] It creates that washout from behind that creates the instability of the wall. [01:41:53] Correct. [01:41:54] The hydraulics. [01:41:55] Gotcha. [01:41:56] Yeah. [01:41:57] It's exactly the same thing that I reported up at the Jasmine Park when we did the Cody [01:42:01] River cleanup. [01:42:02] Right. [01:42:03] That's correct. [01:42:04] Absolutely. [01:42:05] Yeah. [01:42:06] We have a motion and a second. [01:42:07] There's no further discussion. [01:42:08] All those in favor, please signify by saying aye. [01:42:09] Aye. [01:42:10] Aye. [01:42:11] Opposed? [01:42:12] The like sign. [01:42:13] Motion passes. [01:42:14] Next item is the Orange Lake Improvements Project, Design Task Order 14. [01:42:18] Mr. Rivera. [01:42:19] Engineering Council. [01:42:20] This item for Council to consider is for the approval of the attached task order number [01:42:25] 14 in the amount not to exceed $81,695 from Shroud Engineering Consultants for the design [01:42:33] of the 2014-15 Orange Lake Improvements Project. [01:42:39] As Council may recall, this proposed project was in the current approved capital improvement [01:42:45] program. [01:42:47] We've got a slide up here so that I could show you some of the elements that are included [01:42:51] in this proposed project. [01:42:54] The one flood control element is the installation of some slide gates over here in the existing [01:43:00] weirs. [01:43:01] You'll notice these pipes go out to the outfall here in the river. [01:43:05] What this will do is it'll give us the ability to be able to lower the level of the lake [01:43:10] in case we have an impeding storm that's approaching us or if the storm is just too much and we [01:43:17] need to get rid of more water faster, we'll have the ability to do that. [01:43:22] There are several water quality elements that are included in this. [01:43:28] Right over here we have the installation of a CDS unit, which we currently have two [01:43:34] of those already for the other two systems that have outfall pipes over here on the east [01:43:40] side of the lake. [01:43:42] The other two items would be the installation of some sump manholes over here on the south [01:43:51] side system and then up here in the small system on the north side. [01:43:57] Those two systems basically end up bringing parking lot water into the lake. [01:44:05] The other element that we have is we've got some dredging and removal of cinnamons. [01:44:11] This whole project was tied to a Swift Mud Cooperative funding grant. [01:44:16] One of the things that we had to show them for them to give us that money is they would

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    2014-2015 Orange Lake Improvements Project - Design Task Order No. 14

    approved

    Council approved Design Task Order No. 14 for the 2014-2015 Orange Lake Improvements Project, which includes CDS units, sump manholes, an air diffusion system, lateral planting zones, and two overlooks tied into Sims Park Phase 2. Funding was identified as $580,000 Penny for Pasco, $100,000 Restore Act, and $247,000 SWFWMD. Design is expected to complete by end of February with construction (~6 months) starting in spring pending interlocal grant agreements.

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    [01:44:23] agree to pay for the dredging and the removal of cinnamons, but we had to show that we were [01:44:27] going to install elements that would keep the lake from being polluted again. [01:44:32] Therefore, that's why we suggested the CDS units and those two sump manholes. [01:44:38] We've also included an air diffusion system inside the lake, which acts almost like the [01:44:45] existing fountain. [01:44:47] The lake in a lot of areas is about 17 feet deep and you have different levels of water [01:44:53] that actually can become stagnant or dead, for lack of a better term. [01:45:00] Fusion system actually will keep the lake cleaner. [01:45:04] You will have less chance for algae blooms, fish kills, [01:45:08] those types of things. [01:45:10] We've proposed to install some lateral zones up here [01:45:15] with different plantings that naturally will help [01:45:19] with cleaning out the pollutants. [01:45:22] And then finally, we've included the two overlooks on the, [01:45:27] this one here is on the east side of the lake [01:45:30] and this one is on the west side. [01:45:33] That we plan on doing some of the outreach programs [01:45:37] from there and those actually tie into the phase two [01:45:40] of the Sims Park project. [01:45:44] Funding for this project has been identified [01:45:46] as Penny for Pasco dollars at $580,000. [01:45:51] $100,000 worth of Restore Act dollars [01:45:56] and then $247,000 of SWFMUD funding. [01:46:01] And we would ask that you approve the proposal. [01:46:04] Open for public comment. [01:46:07] Seeing no one come forward, bring it back to council. [01:46:10] Move for approval. [01:46:11] Second. [01:46:12] We have a motion and a second to the maker. [01:46:14] Yeah, there's a lot of moving parts in this, Mr. Rivera. [01:46:16] And there's obviously the items, [01:46:19] Restore Act, all those things. [01:46:21] And obviously, that was precipitated by our ability [01:46:27] to drain the lake last year to determine whether, [01:46:31] determine what status it was in, correct? [01:46:33] Yes, sir. [01:46:34] And the other is, I know we're trying to relieve [01:46:41] potential flooding issues in the downtown [01:46:43] and some of these others, so that's very important. [01:46:46] But it needs to be stated that [01:46:50] if we have a full moon and we have high tide [01:46:54] and we have a substantial rainstorm, [01:46:59] we still are gonna get water in the downtown. [01:47:01] Is that a fair assessment? [01:47:03] Yes, sir. [01:47:04] Because you can't, if your outflows are level [01:47:08] with the river and you've got a full tide [01:47:11] and all those things, you're gonna do your best [01:47:14] but it is not gonna alleviate a whatever year [01:47:18] flood level you're looking for. [01:47:20] But this does help to mitigate damages [01:47:23] that have occurred in the downtown previously. [01:47:25] Is that a fair overview? [01:47:28] Correct. [01:47:29] Okay, all right. [01:47:30] It'll give us a proactive approach for the flooding [01:47:32] if we know that a hurricane is on its way, [01:47:35] we can lower that level and have a little more retention [01:47:39] when the first flood. [01:47:40] And still being able to take the lake down [01:47:43] because it really is, it's not spring fed anymore [01:47:46] like it used to be in the past. [01:47:48] Okay, all right, that was my motion. [01:47:51] Do I have a second, Mr. Davis? [01:47:52] Mr. Starkey? [01:47:54] No comments on this one, thank you. [01:47:55] Mr. Del Thomas? [01:47:56] I just was curious as to when it would all come to pass. [01:48:01] We still have to get interlocal agreements [01:48:03] for all the grant funding. [01:48:05] We just, I actually got an email today [01:48:07] from the Restore Act Treasury and we're hoping [01:48:10] that we'll be able to get that interlocal agreement [01:48:12] by the beginning of the year. [01:48:14] SWIFMA normally takes about three, [01:48:16] so it looks like the grant money interlocal agreements [01:48:19] are gonna be able to be executed maybe around January. [01:48:25] And then of course, if we can start the design now, [01:48:29] we should be able to finish the complete design [01:48:31] maybe by the end of February. [01:48:35] And then the- [01:48:36] We would go to bid then, so it would probably be [01:48:38] around a springtime project [01:48:42] by the time everything comes together. [01:48:43] Right, and then the actual doing of it [01:48:46] is another month, sir? [01:48:49] The construction's probably gonna be about six months. [01:48:52] Okay, thank you. [01:48:53] Well, with the outcroppings there, [01:48:55] you're not gonna disrupt our duck population there. [01:48:59] You wanna make sure that we, [01:49:02] I'm always back to that, you know? [01:49:04] Because they're still there, [01:49:06] they're still thriving during all the construction. [01:49:08] I mean, they're- [01:49:09] As are the ibis. [01:49:10] I've seen just a tremendous amount of ibis recently. [01:49:13] I've been trying to convince local restaurants [01:49:15] to serve more duck. [01:49:17] There's a few that would agree with you. [01:49:19] Please understand that I am not supporting that measure. [01:49:22] I wanna be clear. [01:49:23] We have a motion and a second on the floor. [01:49:25] All those in favor, please signify by saying aye. [01:49:28] Aye. [01:49:29] Aye. [01:49:31] Opposed? [01:49:31] I'd like to sign. [01:49:32] Muscovy orange duck. [01:49:35] Must be the duck whisperer. [01:49:37] Oh no, look at that, you're gonna take the chief [01:49:39] out of his downtown job. [01:49:41] Oh gosh. [01:49:44] That concludes the regular items. [01:49:47] We now have a pair of reports. [01:49:51] Our new finance director gets her first shot [01:49:53] at describing in three minutes or less [01:49:56] what's going on in your department. [01:49:59] Well, I've only held my position, as you know, [01:50:02] for a short period of time. [01:50:04] However, in that time, my focus has been [01:50:08] building a rapport with staff in my department [01:50:10] and others throughout the city, [01:50:12] getting an understanding of the processes [01:50:14] that are currently in place, [01:50:16] and also transitioning the city [01:50:21] to a new treasury service provider, [01:50:23] our banking service provider, of course, [01:50:25] with the help of Bryan and Technology Solutions. [01:50:29] Looking ahead, some of my immediate initiatives [01:50:32] will be working with Technology Solutions [01:50:35] to migrate to Tyler Technologies Software, [01:50:38] putting out a request for proposal for audit services [01:50:41] for the fiscal year 15 financial statements, [01:50:45] completing the process of engaging a financial advisory firm [01:50:50] which will guide us through the process [01:50:52] of meeting the city's financing needs, [01:50:54] and advise us on moving forward [01:50:56] with the budgeted plan of refinancing the existing debt [01:50:59] and acquiring new financing for the improvement projects. [01:51:03] Good, any questions? [01:51:05] Next up, Bryan. [01:51:07] Good evening, Mayor and Council. [01:51:09] As Crystal stated, we've been working closely [01:51:11] with the financial department in regards to the transition [01:51:14] from Bank of America to SunTrust. [01:51:16] This process needs to be completed in our current software [01:51:19] and in the Tyler Technologies Software [01:51:21] in order for us to move forward [01:51:23] with the conversion of the financial services. [01:51:26] In addition, we've had Tyler Technologies on sites [01:51:28] working with the development department and code enforcement [01:51:32] collecting data on fees, workflow, and inspection procedures [01:51:38] We've been working with the police department [01:51:40] to implement our new CAD system. [01:51:43] Servers are built and in place, [01:51:44] and we're now moving into the data migration portion [01:51:47] of that project. [01:51:49] We've worked with HR to produce a couple tools [01:51:53] for a new employee orientation program. [01:51:56] We're currently working with developers [01:51:59] for both the recreation center and the Sims Park project [01:52:03] to produce camera solutions [01:52:04] similar to the ones we've deployed here at City Hall. [01:52:07] And then the last item I have for you [01:52:09] is that these meetings are now available online, [01:52:12] both live streaming and as we move forward, [01:52:15] you can view post history of the meetings [01:52:18] based on agenda topic. [01:52:20] Thank you, any questions? [01:52:24] Hearing none, we'll go to communications and reports. [01:52:26] Councilman Starkey. [01:52:27] Well, I touched on a little bit earlier. [01:52:29] I'm just gonna touch on one topic [01:52:30] and I'll try not to go on too long of a tangent, [01:52:33] but our mayor has a website and he does, [01:52:36] is it a blog? [01:52:36] Is that what you call your posts every week? [01:52:38] And it has a pretty good following. [01:52:39] And I read the one this week [01:52:40] and it basically was titled Stepping Up Our Game. [01:52:43] And it wasn't just about the city staff or city council, [01:52:48] it's about the city as a whole, [01:52:49] its residents, its business owners, [01:52:52] just everybody that's involved. [01:52:53] And since I've been in this position, [01:52:55] I've heard a lot of negativity in the last two years. [01:52:58] It's kind of like the same old buck, [01:52:59] same old buck, same old New Port Richey, [01:53:00] nothing's gonna change. [01:53:02] Yeah, I fight those comments when I hear them [01:53:04] because it's not the same old New Port Richey [01:53:07] and it's not going to be. [01:53:08] And I have seen tremendous change in the last two years, [01:53:12] but it's more, a lot of people, [01:53:15] a lot of residents and business owners [01:53:16] kind of look at it like, what are you gonna do for me? [01:53:19] And if you wanna live in a nicer place, [01:53:21] you have to set higher standards. [01:53:22] Whether you're talking about individuals, entities, [01:53:27] successful people and entities [01:53:28] are those that set higher standards [01:53:30] and strive for better things. [01:53:32] And in my opinion, that's just what we have to do as a city. [01:53:35] Like I touched on earlier, [01:53:36] you drive down 19 and we have this easement [01:53:39] between our businesses and US 19 [01:53:41] that the Department of Transportation mows [01:53:44] eight times a year. [01:53:45] You imagine what our neighborhoods would look like [01:53:47] if we mowed our grass eight times a year. [01:53:49] But you could do one of two things. [01:53:51] You could sit back and complain about it [01:53:53] or you could get out there with a lawnmower [01:53:54] and an edger and a weeder [01:53:55] or pay somebody 30 or $40 to go out and mow it [01:53:59] and maintain it between those trips [01:54:01] from the Department of Transportation. [01:54:03] To me, that's a no-brainer. [01:54:05] It's a reflection of your business. [01:54:06] You're facing 19, you have storefront. [01:54:09] You're not gonna mow your grass [01:54:10] and you're gonna look for the city to do it [01:54:11] and other people to do it for you [01:54:13] because the state says they don't have enough money. [01:54:15] It blows my mind when I see things like that. [01:54:17] And like I talked about, [01:54:18] talked in great detail with Debbie and staff [01:54:21] about the events that we've had in our city. [01:54:24] It's like the same old thing. [01:54:25] We do it with a lot of the events we put on. [01:54:27] It's almost like because we did it last year. [01:54:29] Well, I don't wanna do it the same next year. [01:54:31] We have a new park. [01:54:33] This is a time to set ourselves apart [01:54:36] with our events and the way we run our city. [01:54:38] I think Mary was doing a great job. [01:54:39] I think all our department heads are doing a great job [01:54:41] but we need the help of our residents [01:54:42] and our business owners [01:54:43] and the business owners we're trying to attract [01:54:45] because successful businesses aren't gonna wanna go [01:54:48] and be surrounded by businesses [01:54:50] that are just okay with the status quo. [01:54:52] So if you're a business looking to come to Newport, [01:54:54] I mean, I can't tell you how many people said, [01:54:56] they'll settle, never make it. [01:54:58] They didn't care what those people said. [01:54:59] They knew that the demographics in Newport [01:55:01] were not the demographics they're targeting [01:55:03] but they didn't care. [01:55:04] And they continually do not care [01:55:06] because they know how to do things right. [01:55:09] They're putting on events [01:55:10] that are working at the restaurant. [01:55:11] They're drawing patrons from outside our city limits. [01:55:14] And that was their plan from day one. [01:55:16] So when everyone criticized them [01:55:17] for opening such a nice restaurant in our city, [01:55:20] they didn't care. [01:55:20] And I just give them props for doing that. [01:55:22] And it's kind of like our poster child [01:55:24] for Johnny Ritz and places like that. [01:55:27] I mean, the days of going downtown [01:55:30] and just having poor service and crappy food, [01:55:33] I think are over, you know? [01:55:35] And I just ask our residents and businesses [01:55:38] to kind of adopt that attitude [01:55:40] and stop looking for what can you do for me. [01:55:42] If you want this to be a nicer place, [01:55:45] you need to step up and take care of your yard, [01:55:48] rent to good people. [01:55:49] If you have a business, maintain your business [01:55:51] and what it looks like both inside and out. [01:55:53] And I just, I thank the mayor [01:55:55] for bringing that up in his blog. [01:55:56] I thought it was a great blog [01:55:57] and it went a long way with me. [01:55:58] So thank you. [01:55:59] Thank you. [01:56:00] Nell Swerman. [01:56:01] Well, this past weekend was unbelievable. [01:56:05] The weather could not have been more perfect. [01:56:07] There was so many wonderful, small, [01:56:10] walk downtown things to do, starting with the reunion, [01:56:15] which really put that railroad square really into focus. [01:56:21] And it would, it's, I think it was the vision [01:56:24] for every one of us that had expected that [01:56:26] to be a pedestrian-friendly venue, [01:56:29] for it to be exactly what was accomplished Friday night.

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    Three-Minute Report: Finance

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    A councilmember discussed the vision for Railroad Square as a pedestrian-friendly area, noting tensions with businesses whose entrances open onto it and suggesting the Fresh Market could be relocated there. The speaker also praised recent downtown events including a reunion, an ice cream shop visit, and a sidewalk art event with participating downtown businesses.

    📍Railroad Square🏢Fresh Market#Railroad Square pedestrian area#downtown sidewalk art event

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    [01:56:35] The challenge is there are businesses, [01:56:37] and I, you know, this is something [01:56:39] that we probably have to sit down [01:56:40] and talk through a couple of work sessions. [01:56:43] It was designed to be pedestrian-friendly, [01:56:46] and yet there's businesses on there [01:56:48] that have their openings onto. [01:56:50] And so it's always a conflict of, [01:56:52] if we close that railroad square down, [01:56:55] we're inhibiting some part of their business. [01:56:58] So we need to really walk through that, [01:57:00] because I think that the vision for that railroad square [01:57:07] is what lots of little cities have. [01:57:09] You know, where you come downtown, [01:57:11] you see people enjoying, you know, food, music. [01:57:17] You know, it begs to have, you know, [01:57:19] we have the Fresh Market two blocks north, [01:57:24] you know, in among trees, you know, sandy soil, no lighting. [01:57:30] I understand having, you know, [01:57:32] when we started Fresh Market so many years ago, [01:57:35] the ideal location is for it to be visible. [01:57:38] But I think that the idea of us creating [01:57:41] this pedestrian area back there, [01:57:44] that that area almost begs for that to be there. [01:57:50] To create that ambiance of walking. [01:57:53] Going to the reunion, I was able to then [01:57:55] walk across the street, grab something to eat, [01:57:57] then walk that block to the ice cream store, [01:58:01] which was absolutely wonderful. [01:58:03] I'm gonna have to continue to walk to it and home from it, [01:58:07] because the ice cream is absolutely delicious. [01:58:09] The next morning, Saturday, what a delight to see [01:58:12] the sidewalks with the art artists along it. [01:58:16] Again, wonderful opportunity. [01:58:19] If you purchased, if you participated in that, [01:58:22] all of the different businesses in the downtown [01:58:24] gave you those little coupon that you got [01:58:26] if you purchased something that you could then go

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    Three-Minute Report: Technology Solutions

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    A councilmember reported on visiting a block party in the Garden District neighborhood (Virginia Avenue and Indiana between Grand and Adams/Washington) and praised the sense of community. They requested a future discussion about reducing prohibitive fees or costs associated with hosting block parties, to encourage similar events citywide.

    • direction:Councilmember requested a future discussion about the fees/costs associated with hosting neighborhood block parties. (none)

    📍Virginia Avenue, Indiana, between Grand and Adams#Garden District#block party fees

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    [01:58:29] and enjoy the rest of the day [01:58:32] with a percentage off for sales. [01:58:35] And then later that evening, at about four, [01:58:38] I had the opportunity to walk into [01:58:41] what is being referred to as the Garden District, [01:58:44] which is Virginia Avenue, Indiana, [01:58:47] between Grand and Adams, Adams or Washington? [01:58:52] Well, at any rate, that area right there. [01:58:56] What a delightful neighborhood that is. [01:59:01] The colors of the homes, the friendly atmosphere. [01:59:07] I had mentioned months back that one of the things [01:59:10] that our community really needs is that sense of community. [01:59:15] And you get that sense of community [01:59:17] when you connect with your neighbors. [01:59:19] And that neighborhood has done a wonderful job [01:59:22] of creating that. [01:59:27] I guess it was a block party. [01:59:30] I'm not sure exactly what the terminology was, [01:59:33] but some of the folks that participated in that [01:59:35] would love to continue doing that. [01:59:37] There were people that came there and said, [01:59:39] I want to bring this idea back to my block. [01:59:41] I want to do this. [01:59:42] And came to understand that there's a pretty prohibitive [01:59:46] fee or cost to do that. [01:59:48] So I think I'd like to have a discussion about that, [01:59:52] because I think what they accomplished there that night [01:59:54] is what we'd like to see replicated all over the city. [02:00:00] It's just neighbors to neighbors. [02:00:02] You know, isn't it sad? [02:00:03] You know, I grew up in a neighborhood like that [02:00:05] where it wasn't a block party, [02:00:06] it's just you walked out on your street [02:00:07] and there were people doing the kinds of things [02:00:09] that they were doing. [02:00:10] But, you know, fast forward into the 21st century [02:00:14] and we have to invite people to come out on the street [02:00:17] and come to know their neighbors. [02:00:19] So I think that was a wonderful thing. [02:00:22] And again, I got to walk back to that ice cream store.

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